>gets shot in the face in front of his screaming family
did he deserve it?
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>gets shot in the face in front of his screaming family
>gets shot in the face in front of his screaming family
did he deserve it?
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Yeah because his crew did the same to Phil
Phil's head got smashed by a car tire
Are you fricking moronic?
Based Phil getting Tony in the end.
I'm confused, you said he's dead, how is he evening up with anybody? he's a ghost?
Phil deserved it though
>OH SHIT
>gets shot
When did he get shot?
It's painfully obvious to anyone with a brain he was killed in the last scene
Meadow walked in the door and it went to black
If some homie walked in or another made man walked in and then it went to black I'd agree with you, but it wasn't.
Yeah because he's shot in the head by the guy that is clearly staring at him for the entire scene up until that point dumby
he went into the bathroom
Tony looked up when Meadow walked in the door
it's arguably a callback to Febby sparing Tony's life in 'College' because of her presence + the other times when Meadow has been Tony's only saving grace in the series, Meadow being the very last thing Tony sees (and cutting before the door bells even finish jingling) is supposed to say that she was too late
Meadow had saved Tony's "life" 3 times before: In "College", when she takes the FBI's bugged lamp to Colombia, and when her voice stops him from letting go when he's in a coma. The thing that prevents her from sitting next to him and blocking the hitman's line of sight is her poor parallel parking, a skill Tony neglected to teach her all the way back in season 1 (Janice takes her driving, and Meadow says the guy who gave her the test was a complete pushover).
>Febby didn't kill Tony because of Meadow
that literally didn't happen, watch the scene again
The whole point of the last scene is that the audience can finally appreciate being in Tony's shoes. He's about to get RICO'd hard because of the gun he tossed, most of his friends and capos/bosses are dead, he's put a target on his back for taking out a NY boss unceremoniously, and his family are all growing into other people than just "his family." The guy in the MO jacket could be a hitter, could be a regular guy staring for X amount of reasons, it doesn't matter. We don't get to see what happens next because that's how Tony gets to live moment to moment: in a state of paranoia and dread.
>he's put a target on his back for taking out a NY boss
Only moronic fricks think this.
why though, sure they said at the time that they were ok with him hitting a boss, but it's pretty easy to imagine them changing their minds or to have been lying to him to set him up as a fall guy. the war was already on between the two, NY was winning easily, the only people still alive who had knowledge that tony had set the deal up were NY guys who can claim ignorance and support the hit.
Yeah I forgot how obvious it was with the sketchy guy watching him and walking in the bathroom. Who gives a shit by the end of the show all sympathy for Tony is gone. One of my big gripes with the show, the first 4 seasons have Tony being pretty morally ambiguous but I didn't feel like he was a sociopath. He seemed to empathize with plenty of characters but had to fight against that empathy to maintain his authority.
Then the last season happens and it feels like the writers were like
>Shit this guy is suppose to be a sociopath
>Let's have him do a bunch of mean spirited evil shit in the last season just to make it crystal clear for the audience
It's alright, you're just too stupid for this show.
>Then the last season happens and it feels like the writers were like
>>Shit this guy is suppose to be a sociopath
>>Let's have him do a bunch of mean spirited evil shit in the last season just to make it crystal clear for the audience
that is literally exactly what happened. david got butthurt people were rooting for tony and decided to just completely degenerate his character into pure evil.
>being in the mafia is morally ambiguous
>It's painfully obvious to anyone with a brain he was killed in the last scene
this, plus it was confirmed by david chase. the members only guy that's clearly related to gene, the way he goes to the bathroom as a godfather reference, the cut to black referring to him and bobby's conversation about how you don't hear it when it happens, I mean come on. I think it was done well though and it's also cool how basically it was over for tony anyways, people were cooperating, he was going to jail, most of his crew were dead, he burned way too many bridges, dead or no, it was over for tony and his glorified crew. only brainlets complain about the ending being unclear
>the members only guy that's clearly related to gene
Another dumb frick heard from
begone ESL, you can't comprehend this show watching it with subtitles
>the mystery relative of gene took his jacket that he wore in a random scene and decided to wear it himself in a homage to the man while avenging his obvious suicide.
You fricking moron.
>avenging his obvious suicide against the man who clearly caused it
fixed that for you, moronic ESL
Theres no evidence at all that he told anyone that tony said he couldn't go. Let alone some relative that was never seen or mentioned in any context. Reminder he was going to leave anyway and only killed himself when the fbi told him he couldn't. Dumb frick.
>Theres no evidence at all that he told anyone that tony said he couldn't go
you're a moron
yeah dude wearing the exact same jacket is just a wacky coincidence haha
That's what we call a red herring. It's not like members only jackets are some special or rare thing. It's just stupid. The show never did shit like that.
>That's what we call a red herring
kek, dunning kruger in full effect. fricking moron
You're the dumb frick believing a whole bunch of nonsense with no evidence at all based around a never before seen character wearing a common piece of clothing. It makes no sense at all.
give us one reason why that isn't reasonable, and explain how likely it was that someone was wearing the exact same jacket the moment tony cuts to black like exactly how he was talking about dying with bobby, we'll wait
>You fricking moron.
I accept your concession.
No that was Meadow's ex punching his lights out.
It's ironic how Tony worried about his Black person side while it was his neurotic israelite side that hurt Meadow.
the cut to black in the finale is him being assassinated as confirmed by show creator david chase
It was just a hypothetical. He never goes in the diner. That scene is his knowing what would happen if he did. He knows he can never enjoy his family life again. That part is dead.
That senile clown made Many Saints of Newark
>as confirmed by show creator david chase
When was this?
there was an interview a couple years ago a he let it slip that he wrote it as a "death scene", but back tracked and said it was written so the audience could leave it to their imagination. while that is somewhat true, the fact that he referred to it as a death scene basically confirms that tony died.
The cut to black was him watching meadow get blacked by the Hebrew hammer Jamal Ginsburg
that's not what happened you homosexual
Yes
Tony didn’t but his family did
This.
the most unrealistic part was Meadow growing up in New Jersey and still not being able to parallel park for 10 minutes
True however you're forgetting that women can't park, let alone drive. I appreciate that Sopranos has some light supernatural elements in it, but showing a woman being able to parallel park would be too stupid.
>I appreciate that Sopranos has some light supernatural elements in it,
Name some besides Paulie's spiritual journeys
Chris' dream
Chris' raven
Tony's coma
Tony sees Pussy's ghost
The cat
Phil turns into a house
How fricking new are you?
the spookiest one is this
He deserved worse.
Yes.
he is clearly going to jail after his final dinner with his family due to carlo snitching, did you not see the episode?
Trials are there to be won
I feel like he is going to be on a trial similar to johnny sack, forced to break omerta and get crippled financially
I feel he got out of it and is now enjoying his grandkids
Zelensky nooo!
My theory was always that David Chase decided to put a hit out on us, the audience, because Tony had finished "examining himself" from a third person's perspective. The first scene in the pilot was him in Melfi's office as he was beginning to investigate his life from the perspective of an outsider, and thus we, the audience, were brought into "his circle" Tony was not killed, we were.
Yes and it was even more satisfying after watching the Sopranos Movie™ and learning that Harold did it.
David Chase is a genius.
>it was all a dream
Hey hey hey! Where’s da frickin……gabagool!?
>shot in the face
Uh he got shot in the back of the head
Yeah he did tons of terrible things including killing his own nephew.This isn't a question.
>implying chris didn't have it coming
Chrissy died in an accident, they literally say it in the show.
All 3 died
>gets shot
head canon
>does a guy who constantly robs people, kills people, uses violence on people, and is an overall pest to everyone deserve to be treated with respect?
>robs people
>steals liquor from the vipers
>steals building materials from construction sites
>steals sunglasses from his brother-in-law
Being part of the mafia is stealing by proxy
>did he deserve it?
It doesn't matter
Carmella, Meadow, and AJ all deserved to watch him die like that and all deserved to basically have the only thing keeping their lives stable be destroyed.
Without Tony's connections AJ becomes remains a little punk as b***h, only now he doesn't have his father's connections
Meadow becomes permanently traumatized and has to acknowledge the mafia for what it is, now that her only real link to it is severed
Carmella finally gets to understand that she is NOT capable of supporting herself in any real way, and has to live with the fact that the rest of her life will be well below the quality that she is used to because she now has no way to make money
The Sopranos were all shitty ass characters, it's good to think that they all get their comeuppance at the end of the series
Friendly reminder that they were only able to use Don't Stop Believin' if nobody died
It is 100% canon that Tony doesn't die, because otherwise the producers would be sued
The ambiguous ending of HBO's "The Sopranos" has sparked debates about the fate of Tony Soprano. Contrary to popular belief, this article argues that Tony survived. Through artistic choices, symbolism, and Tony's character traits, the finale's open-ended nature supports the idea of his survival.
>Ambiguity as Artistic Choice:
Creator David Chase's penchant for open-ended conclusions is evident in the finale. The abrupt cut to black invites interpretation and aligns with his storytelling style, leaving Tony's fate uncertain.
>Symbolism and Subtext:
The final scene's metaphorical significance lies in representing the constant danger Tony faces. The cut to black symbolizes the lurking threats, rather than his literal demise.
>Emphasis on Family:
"The Sopranos" highlights Tony's commitment to his family's well-being. The ambiguous ending allows viewers to envision Tony surviving, reinforcing the theme of his relentless protection.
>Tony's Awareness and Preparedness:
Tony's self-preservation instincts and vigilance make it likely that he would have sensed and avoided any potential threat at the diner.
>The Legacy of Tony Soprano:
Considering the show's cultural impact, Tony's survival serves as a fitting conclusion. It honors his influential character and the lasting impact of "The Sopranos" on television.
>Conclusion:
By analyzing artistic choices, symbolism, and thematic elements, it becomes evident that Tony Soprano's survival is a plausible interpretation of "The Sopranos" finale. Embracing the ambiguity allows for the appreciation of Tony's enduring legacy and the series' significant contributions to television.
>he finale's open-ended nature
This is what people, especially zoomers, can't deal with. That's what makes it so good. Belive whatever you want to believe.
>david chase verbatim says he didn’t include a scene where tony dies a gorey death because it pissed him off how mutt morons only liked the violent aspects of the show
>dumb morons years later
>HE DIED HE DIED AND IT WAS SOOOO BLOOODY!!
Its just zoomers fishing for attention at this point.
they're a bunch of psychopaths extorting the neighborhood family man for a living, they all deserved it
he's a wop wienersucka, course he deserved it.
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>mutts law
Italians are white
While the ending of "The Sopranos" deliberately left Tony Soprano's fate open to interpretation, there are several compelling arguments that suggest Tony died in the final moments of the series. Here are some reasons supporting this viewpoint:
1. Symbolism and foreshadowing: Throughout the series, creator David Chase employed subtle symbolism and foreshadowing to hint at Tony's possible demise. The recurring motif of the character's paranoia and fear of death, as well as the references to famous mob hits and assassination attempts, create a sense of impending doom. The final scene in the diner, with Tony constantly looking over his shoulder, amplifies this atmosphere of imminent danger.
2. Parallelism with previous episodes: In the lead-up to the finale, Tony's enemies and associates were killed off one by one. This sequence of events mirrors a recurring theme in the series, where major characters meet their end as the storylines conclude. It would be consistent with the show's narrative structure for Tony to meet a similar fate.
3. The abrupt cut to black: The sudden, jarring cut to black at the end of the series finale has been widely interpreted as representing Tony's death. The audience is denied any resolution or closure, much like the suddenness of a real-life assassination. This ambiguous ending forces viewers to confront the fragility of Tony's existence and the constant threat of violence that accompanies his lifestyle.
4. Tony's journey and moral reckoning: Over the course of the series, Tony struggles with his conscience and battles with the consequences of his actions. The finale provides an opportunity for Tony to face the ultimate reckoning for his life as a mobster. By leaving his fate open-ended, the show invites viewers to contemplate the possibility of Tony finally facing the repercussions of his choices.
he said that so people would stop asking him moron
>bro just because he confirmed it, doesn't mean he confirmed it!
kek, kys moronic FRICK
These threads are so stupid. I saw one of you fricking homosexuals post a thread that said
>The diner is hell right?
No it's not, I just finished the series last night, and the foreshadowing of his upcoming indictment, and AJ saying "You've got to enjoy the good things." At the table was all meant to portray that tony won, tony is the main character, the hero, the champion of the story, and that his life was going to continue on per usual.
He believes that it was all worth it because of meadow, and that he won the gang war, but the feds are about to bare down on him. You cannot win everything and enjoy the good things.
>how hard is this to understand?
>and that his life was going to continue on per usual.
he got killed moron
the answer is basically in the camera angles and editing dumbasses, chase indicates that whenever the bell rings we see the diner's door from tony's perspective, and it goes black once meadow comes in and the bell rings because he's dead and the silence is because as bobby says a few episodes earlier "you probably don't even hear it coming"
here's a great analysis if you're that into it
>https://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/1147-2/