going to watch it for the first time, is it better in japanese or english?
im trying to watch it in japanese and i cant keep up with the subtitles because im slow
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ghost in the shell
going to watch it for the first time, is it better in japanese or english?
im trying to watch it in japanese and i cant keep up with the subtitles because im slow
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English is dog shit
you're dogshit
no he is right, the dub for this movie is actually fricking awful. Watch it in JAP OP
>I’ll watch this visual medium by staring at subtitles instead of the cinematography, even when there is an official decent translation, because that makes me le superior intellectual
Animegays are diseased
Hey, it’s not our fault you’re too braindead to follow what’s happening on the fricking screen, moron-kun.
so you are saying you can fully read and understand writing that is at the bottom of the screen and also watch the center of the screen and understand everything that is going on at the same time?
bait.
its one or the other homosexual.
inb4
>wuh uh lolll you cant do x loool so dumb loool
actually have a nice day.
>my eyes flick down and back up
OMg so hard! 2hard4u!
stfu
any scene with heavy dialogue is not an action sequence, every scene with heavy action has little to no dialogue. Whats hard here? Afraid of missing a couple of frames of mouth movement?
This isn't an action movie. He'll be bored until the ending with spider mech. Just philosophy nonsense. Bad philosophy. Japs can't write.
>reddit spacing gay is too slow to watch subbed movies
el oh el
It’s all too true
you must miss so much, you're moronic
This is why dual audio is great. If I want to focus on the original voices and more directly translated dialog, I can watch it with subtitles. If I want to focus on the visuals and cinematography, then I can watch the dub.
Of course English dub quality varies greatly from film to film.
You know it depends on the movie, Come and See was an easy watch for me with subtitles, maybe because when there is dialogue the pace is slower than when there is action. Some movies have fast paced dialogue though and it can be hard to keep up.
dubs are more jarring in acting as opposed to animation cause of the lip movement
Nailed it. Also Japanese voice acting is cringe
Japanese for gods sake. The English dub is really really really bad.
Hi timmy. The subtitles are on the same screen that the cinematography is on. So while you're looking at the subs, you can also see the movie! Neat huh? Hope this helps.
>just watch the movie with your peripheral vision bro
>it's ok grandpa, we will buy you new specs
There's no reason to ever watch anything not in the original language, moron. If you do, you're watching a completely different work from everyone else.
>Animegays
American/Anglo spotted. And one who doesn't watch non-Hollywood movies. Subs have nothing to do with anime.
Also, AUDIOvisual medium.
>There's no reason to ever watch anything not in the original language
but unless you know the language very well, you're still reading a translation, not the original words
This is a cartoon, not a movie, so your argument makes no sense
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ok, but that's just due to bad VA
Isn't the animatrix japanese made anyways?
Is the English dub the actual "official" one?
>Is the English dub the actual "official" one?
yes, and the Japanese is the original of GitS. The difference always extremely noticeable.
>The difference always extremely noticeable.
nope, for instance I know for a fact that dubs in countries with very good VA traditions are sometimes better than the original
You can look up Disney ones on youtube
I get your argument if it's actual physical actors, I never watch dubs no matter how obscure the language
You are right that in a small handfull of instances the dub is good, and in even smaller instances it is better(Cowboy Bebop and Princess Mononoke are good examples of a fantastic dubs) But in 99% of cases the original is better by far. And GitS falls into that catagory.
there is a case to always watch real life media in its original language and to read translated subs because the overdub for your language will not match up with the mouth/facial movements of the actors on screen which can be jarring.
but with animation this like 90% of the time is not an issue because most anime "speach" is just mouth flapping and is not actually correctly animated to the original language anyway.
you can dub in many languages and have it still fit the original animation.
>There's no reason to ever watch anything not in the original language, moron. If you do, you're watching a completely different work from everyone else.
So there is a reason to watch something not in the original language. What if this "completely different work" is better than the original?
Jesus christ imagine being this guy with no vertical peripheral vision
>he doesn’t read at least 700 words a minute
Lmao never gonna make it
have a nice day homosexual. Am I supposed to watch Hollywood movies dubbed too as a eurogay?
I choose the Japanese audio without subtitles
That's a good point and a great argument for why they should invest in actually good voice overs
watch in english to get the story. watch again in japanese to cleanse your mind of the english voice acting
can you speak japanese?
oh you cant?
interesting that you KNOW that the japanese voice acting is better even though you cant actually understand any of it, you have no fricking clue if the japanese voice acting is good or not.
you are only assuming that it is better.
same goes for japs who think jap VA is better, they dont know english so they have no fricking clue if english is good or bad.
voice acting in any language can be bad but you can only know that its bad if you truly understand that language
you can say "i dont like how this language i dont speak sounds" but thats not it being bad thats you having a subjective problem.
subs are for pseuds
Japanese. The english dub is kind of nonsense, even though I like the English cast.
Read the manga. This flick is a poor representation of what GiTS is about.
>Read the manga. This flick is a poor representation of what GiTS is about.
This is true. The movie is better.
anyone who says "x adaptation of gits is a poor representation of gits" is a certified grade A moron who doesnt actually know anything about gits at all.
Spoken like an angry zoomer.
>anyone i dont like is a zoomer
ok homosexual, dont you have some balls to choke on?
You sound really mad, why is that? Is it because you're a zoomie? Lol.
english for 1995 is objectively better than jap
english for sac is objectively better than jap
english for Innocence is arguably better than jap
japanese for arise and related media is objectively better than english
simple as. you literally cant argue against this.
but i guess watch everything twice, once with eng dub and once with jap dub and decide for yourself.
What makes it objectively better vs arguably better?
because i said so
Can you at least explain why English is better for the 1995 movie because I haven't seen it. Just curious.
because i only speak english and also from what i have heard from many people of a variety of ages from around the world, even from people that generally hate english dub on any anime have said that the english dub for gits 1995 is very good.
the english dub for sac is very similar to 1995 but is a little more natural and has a different but similar voice actor for the major
>https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Mimi-Woods/
for 1995
>https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Mary-Elizabeth-McGlynn/
for sac and various other gits media.
in 1995 the major has a slight (sometimes very noticable) "robotic" sound to her voice but i think this actually matches perfectly with the character in this movie.
>english for 1995 is objectively better than jap
English dub is unreliable. Because they just add female SWAT voice in the opening scene, where in the original SWAT is just silent. Not only muh diversity for no reason but needless meddling with source material.
Watch it dubbed, but on mute. That way you can take in the beautiful visuals without the moronic dialogue distracting you.
>literally three seconds into the movie
>Major has radio interference
>in Japanese she jokes about how it's because she's on her period, 'cause she's a robot
>in English she just boringly says "some interference or something idk"
>literally three seconds into the movie
wrong
>in English she just boringly says "some interference or something idk"
wrong she says "must be a loose wire" and the subtitle still says "it's my time of the month."
frankly saying "im on my period" literally doesnt make any sense and just feels like bad/lazy writing
we can hear all the interference in the audio so when she says "just a loose wire" we know that thats not the actual reason for the interference and there is something else going on that she isn't telling her team, this clues the audience in that there is something out of the ordinary with this character literally from the very start of the movie.
saying "im on my period" doesnt say convey shit and isnt something this character would say. it sounds like something batou would say to the major, something like "hey major what's with all that interference in your feed, is it that time of the month?" in his usual joking voice.
>wrong
Wrong
>she says "must be a loose wire" and the subtitle still says "it's my time of the month."
So she still says what I said, and it's doubly badly made
>frankly saying "im on my period" literally doesnt make any sense and just feels like bad/lazy writing
Colossal moron
>literally three seconds into the movie
>LITERALLY three seconds into the movie
>LITERALLY
>in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
i LITERALLY just opened the movie and EXACTLY 3 seconds in she does not say anything, in fact there is nothing but text on the screen, so no she did not say anything LITERALLY 3 seconds into the movie and you are indeed wrong.
>So she still says what I said, and it's doubly badly made
direct quote from your original post "in English she just boringly says "some interference or something idk"
interesting seeing as that is not what she said at all in the english dub. and she didnt say a subtitle, the subtitles are just translations from the japanese script that usually dont even say everything the characters say. so its not doubly badly made, but you are doubly wrong.
>Colossal moron
>no counter point
i will take your concession
nta but you're autistic
yes i am but i am not wrong.
>hyperbole
>[ hahy-pur-buh-lee ]
>noun Rhetoric.
>1 obvious and intentional exaggeration.
>2 an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally
Literally moronic, but at least you've outright stated you're an honest to god autist so now it feels like I'm talking with a drooling child. Frick off.
>talks shit
>gets called out
>doubles down
>gets called out again
>"i was only joking bro! why are you taking it so seriously"
classic
English dub is okay at best. Terrible at worst. This tends to be the case with most anime. There are some real gems out there that are English though. Watch the first episode in Japanese and then English or vice versa. Decide for yourself.
how new are you, it was a term used by older weabs against all the moeshit/weak MC trends
they liked to say new tranime was cuckime and the older stuff was manly etc
Everybody should say tranime, I also like "chinese cartroons"
Nope, I've actually been here long enough to see that term pop up and to know you're a bullshitting tourist. It's a poor attempt at astroturfing started by anti-anime morons from cripplechan, specifically /intl/. If you were there, you know. Moe wasn't even "a trend" when that term started being forced. Iyashikei ("CGDCT") did trend briefly in the late 2000s, when most of those morons were still shitting their diapers, but by that point moe was already an important part of the industry and domestic fandom for decades, and it would still be several years before "cuck" became the buzzword of choice for meme-spouting newbies.
While we're at it, you might want to refrain from calling yourself (or anyone else) a "weab" unless it's your intention to give away your status as a tourist. I'm not just talking about the misspelling, either.
this commnt makes no sense
are you objecting to the fact that moe wasn't a "trend" at the time "cuckime" came about?
Dub is fine and it's not exactly the best movie to be reading subtitles anyway. Theres a lot of shit going on. If you're a very fast reader then I guess its fine.
And not to hijack your thread OP but I refuse to post on Cinemaphile. Im watching Naruto for the first time and am on episode 3. This is some comfy 6/10 anime. Kinda shitty but goofy enough to keep me watching.
japanese voice, english subs.
also check if it's the original and not the "remastered" with some 3D shit.
Japanese for the original, dub for everything else.
Like people said, make sure you watch the original GitS and not "GitS 2.0"
Skip it and just watch the first two seasons of Stand alone complex
But that's even worse than both movies combined and 2 was dogshit.
People praised the English dub in this movie but goddamn it was awful.
the sub misses alot of dialogue
not usually plot important stuff but the stuff between characters that builds character and makes the interactions between characters feel real and not like some robotic script.
whatever, sure, I have autism and a 1" wiener, hopefully you feel better about your own life now
what a sperg
SAC is objectively the best iteration of ghost in the shell.
But I like the 90s movie a lot too, for different reasons.
true.
but i think sac 1 is more rewatchable than sac 2.
Ignore the sub weebs there are plenty of good dubs, this is one of them.
The english dub is extremly comfy.
always watch movies in their original language
I've never seen the movie, but I'll say that the original TV series (Ghost in the Shell: Stand alone complex and the second season, 2nd Gig) have fantastic english dubbing, probably superior to the original dub.
>I've never seen the movie
what the frick?
The best scenes in the movie is underwater night swimming and the hanging out on the boat afters with nothing happening.
If you get it, you get it
How does this make you feel?
The Italian second dub is my favourite if you speak Italian
Don't waste your time another terrible Japanese anime with a story that makes no sense. The art is wasted on these people.
bait
Stop watching terrible anime, next you'll tell me Akira is the greatest ever!!!
the animation for akira is world class even today BUT the actual story and plot and dialogue and shit is absolute trash and the movie is actually better if you ignore it.
>you just didnt get it
nah i watched it many times, i get it, i just dont think its worth consuming.
Innocence > GitS
>be named Gohda
>gode Section 9 into doing dumb shit
wtf who is writing this??
>i cant keep up with the subtitles
why they do SAC 2045 to us bros, we didn't deserve that
Dubs used to be routinely terrible but that was a long time ago now. Subs used to be better as a nominal attempt at translation while the dub script would just make things up (c.f., the Magic Roundabout which was just random scripts made up in English to match the visuals and absolute kino compared to what it turns out was going on in French).
This is a very dated concern now and stopped being an issue before most people currently ranting about it were born. GITS was one of the better ones in its era.
For me, it's italian dubs of super old troonyme:
There isn't a single unique postin this thread, the subs vs dubs posts here have been made THOUSANDS of time in the last 20 years.
Fricking killyourselves, newbie scum.
wrong, see:
why would u put nipples on a non sexbot model cyborg body?
japanese, always japanese for all gits