>Ghost Rider gets a 90s revamp. >tops the charts, becomes a phenomenon

>Ghost Rider gets a 90s revamp
>tops the charts, becomes a phenomenon
>fits with the decade’s Urban Gothic atmosphere
>as the 00s approach stop that dead in its tracks, erase Danny and give the look but not the feel to Johnny
>now GR is a dead brand because instead of being part of the Goth brand it’s just shitty B-Movie Grindhouse following a moronic carnie
Why do they refuse to do the sensible thing?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because marvel knights was a success they gave Joe Quesada more power and wanted them to try and retool everything. Honestly everything bad about marvel post 90's can be blamed on marvel knights success looking back at it.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >. Honestly everything bad about marvel post 90's can be blamed on marvel knights success looking back at it.
      Honestly you can trace it back to Jim Shooter getting booted from Marvel. From there, the X-Men cartoon, Marvel Knights, and the crash of 1996 did a lot of harm.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's less that and more Ennis and Ennis being paired with an artist who (like Ennis) didn't give a shit about the brand or the differences in GRs. Combined with Howard Mackie being a petty little c**t who burnt the whole franchise to the ground in a throwaway issue of Spider-Man.

      Ennis wanted to write a Hell's Angels type Ghost Rider who appealed to biker toughs/mens men types and picked Blaze because he was an OG biker not a city kid larper who owned a motorcycle "because motorcycles are cool" like Danny was. And Ennis's artist, when researching the character, simply aped some of the 90s Ketch Ghost Rider artwork without bothering to see if it was the Blaze version of GR or Ketch version and it stuck with Blaze stealing Danny's visual. And no one bothering to do anything because Howard Mackie scorched earth the entire franchise in an issue of Peter Parker Spider-Man because he was upset that the guy who replaced him on Ghost Rider actually resolved the mystery box shit regarding WHO Danny's GR spirit was, that Mackie NEVER EVER intended to resolved, via having Ghost Rider retcon all of the reveals about who he was as "lies", effectively burning the entire 90s franchise down to the ground out of malicious spite.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    So you’re saying it should be more like The Crow and Constantine?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is the urban gothic aesthetic still popular?
    Are motorcycles still cool?
    I think both the answers are no, but I'm asking earnestly, I'm way too out of touch to know what's on trend today.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Motorcycles are still cool, dude.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >B-movie grindhouse style works for Ghost Rider or at least It does for Blaze since both his solos in the 90s (Blaze and Blaze: Legacy of Blood) were grindhousy
    >Recent runs outside of anything Robbie Reyes have been decent because Marvels editorial couldn’t be bothered to give a shit so writers have more freedom
    >writers have no clue how to handle Dan Ketch outside of Howard Mackie so they bring him back for the occasional mini every few years
    >Post 2009 Jason Aaron writes Ghost Rider like he hates the character every time editorial drops the character in his lap

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do they refuse to do the sensible thing?

    Cause you have people at Marvel thinking 90s Bad and didn't sell as well as the 70s version

    The truth was that for the first four years the 90s version outperformed the 70s version by a lot, while the final years went below the sales of the 70s version, because sales for all comics declined heavily due to the crash

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That and also they went in a bad direction for Ghost Rider in the final year or so

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The truth was that for the first four years the 90s version outperformed the 70s version by a lot
      How much of it was because of good writing and not gimmicks?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some issues had gimmicks (crossovers with Punisher, X-Men; glow in the dark cover, and some others), but if it were as simple as gimmicks a lot of other books would've gotten Ghost Rider's circulation numbers

  6. 5 months ago
    AccelΔX

    2005-07 Ghost Rider was basically Inuyasha

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      how so?

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make Ghost Rider a throwback thing just pure genuine not ironic though, 90's edge.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the current run t b h

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>tops the charts, becomes a phenomenon
    This is an exaggeration. Sold well, especially at first, but wasn't a TOP seller.
    >>the decade’s Urban Gothic atmosphere
    The 90s was the decade of hip hop. Nobody knew what "goth culture" was when it debuted.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zoom zoom

      Hiphop was a late 80s fad that was overly commercialized and even seen as just corporate shit by 90. Grunge culture was the big thing in the early 90s

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't just Ghost rider though, nearly every 90s character was sidelined in the 00s. Half of them forgotten. Even War Machine and Venom became second rate, and were actually not even existing for several years. Ghost Rider is still possibly the most successful of the 1990 new generation Darkhawk, Sleep Walker, and New Warriors are long gone.

    All the 90s DC characters were either sidelined or erased from continuity so they can bring back the old silver age guys again.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >All the 90s DC characters were either sidelined or erased from continuity so they can bring back the old silver age guys again.
      You mean like Tim Drake and Kyle Rayner?

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