>I love my little man, >I love my little man, >you can make him do this, >you can make him do this. >You can wash him in a dish, >be careful he gets ticklish, >my teeny little man. >In a life that's kind of lonely, >I thought if only, >I had a little man.
I'm waiting for companies to truly embrace this logic once they realize it'll get hundreds of thousands of weirdos to purchase their product regardless of its quality otherwise.
I dont think I'll ever be able to see this movie's poster and not think of the anon who fantasized the giant e-girl doing all sorts of stuff with him up to and including taking a shit on him
Just fire them and move on. It'll teach the rest to keep their shit under wraps, after all you want smart sneaky sickos working for you not out and proud no subtlety having dumbasses.
Back then nobody knew about the freaks, you dipshit. The problem is that with the internet everyone knows about that shit. You're never gonna get another HR Giger in this world again.
I feel like the creatives fell in love with Inma too much. Notice how much concept art has her in it- she was taking over the whole story. She was based on a real little girl they met in Spain. Making the character suffer probably felt like they were wishing to do the same to the real Inma.
They were 70% done with the movie. They couldn't figure out what to do for the end.
Like what they said was
>Jack breaks the treaty of entering giants realm >Giants invade the human world
They got stuck on "What do the giants do?"
From attack on titan, it seems pretty obvious. But TLDR: The movie was pretty much finished. They just couldn't get the last part finished so they shelved it.
This why when you write a story you start with the beginning AND the ending. You know what the story is leading up to. You can also revise the ending if it doesn't mesh with the rest of the story.
There's apparently musical numbers and animation of Gigantic which are now lost media.
How long were those shelved for? I know Alice was still made when Walt was alive so he must've gave them the go ahead on that one, but what was the reasoning for Beauty and the Beast to be finished.
Alice was in development hell because of WW2 and issues with trying to figure out the tone and what to keep or cut. Peter Pan was also affected by WW2.
Beauty and the Beast was struggling with how to handle the romance
Little Mermaid was going to be part of a larger "Hans Christian Anderson biopic with animated versions of his stories", but that larger project fell apart. That Steadfast Tin Soldier segment in Fantasia 2000 was also based mostly on storyboards developed for this project.
Tangled was previously Rapunzel Unbraided and was an Isekai. Had a neat painted look.
There's a few seconds of fully rendered footage and a lengthy animation on YouTube. Chicken Little flopped, Disney scrapped all their post modern animations. Lasseter became disney animation head, revived the project as a traditional fairy tale and started the 2nd renaissance.
Worth noting all the songs composed for it reverted back to the writers. A song from Jack climbing the beanstalk became "We the people" from that Obama politics show. If this is revived, its probably starting from scratch. The D23 wasn't even the final rework they came up with.
Genre: Animation/Film Noir
Premise: In a futuristic world co-habitated by aliens and humans, the last human private eye is hired to investigate the fidelity of a well-known pop star.
This seems like the perfect 90s Dreamworks movie to flip or something Disney could have done if Treasure Planet and Atlantis had succeeded above and beyond their targets.
The concept of Wreck-It Ralph had been discussed by Disney since the 80s when the gaming fad started. Being put on the shelf repeatedly, due to lack of interest by the studio past pre-production. Essentially, just a game character tired of his game so he goes to other games. It got started and stopped a few times with names like 'High-Score' in the 80s and Joe Jump in the 90s, and then Reboot Ralph in the early 00s before cementing into a more refined project in the mid 00s. A lot of different hands juggled the film around, but aside from Frozen evolving from the concept of the Snow Queen (which was pretty unrelated from the idea bounced around in Walt's time) it's probably the longest any (public) Disney project has gone from concept to release without being scrapped.
Those two movies didn't actually work. A movie about a wimpy guy being mistreated by feisty giant girl isn't really something most non-fetishists would want to see.
Jack being a brave Spaniard being taken in by a wimpy shut-in giant boy may have actually worked. Giant boy treats the Spaniard like he's a cute little pet. Until the Spaniard inspires the boy to leave his comfort zone and explore the world. Spaniard acts as a mentor and father figure, giant boy acts as his caretaker and transportation. They go on adventures.
>A movie about a wimpy guy being mistreated by feisty giant girl isn't really something most non-fetishists would want to see. >Proceeds to suggest his own fetish filled plot as an alternative
We see through you're homosexual spanish giant dom fetish.
Jack was supposed to be from Spain during the Age of Exploration in the movie. A story about a wimpy boy learning to become a man thanks to a male role model is pretty mainstream. It's a movie that would bring in a male audience.
What kind of audience is a movie about a feisty giant girl who mistreats a wimpy guy even for?
Too young she can't be a proper disney princess (6 year olds don't want to play dress up as a 8 year old). Too old and you have a fetishism romance angle.
Can't age down jack as it makes his mother look like a shitty parent
Why does the giant girl have to be a Disney Princess? Give her and Jack a 10 age difference. Or have the same age difference as Wreck-it Ralph and the brat Sarah Silverman voiced.
8 months ago
Anonymous
This was a full musical, it was going to be their big blockbuster, 100% they wanted a princess
8 months ago
Anonymous
Should have made Jack a woman.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Make Jack a girl who encounters a giant boy.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Gay
8 months ago
Anonymous
gay
8 months ago
Anonymous
Make Jack a girl who encounters a giant boy.
should have just made Jack into a tomboy girl and kept Irma so have two female leads
8 months ago
Anonymous
A women and a giant girl or a man and a giant boy. Making both of the leads the same sex basically removes any kind of fetishistic romance angle that the movie could go into.
8 months ago
Anonymous
better with two girls one giant and one normal since hasnt been done before
Generic brown protagonist
Giant was a breasts
wouldnt mind the other version they had
8 months ago
Anonymous
Gay
8 months ago
Anonymous
>same age difference as Wreck-it Ralph and the brat Sarah Silverman voiced.
2 retcon that. Ralph is apparently the same age as her or at least a kid.
>Can't age down jack as it makes his mother look like a shitty parent
Disney making character orphans or giving them a shitty parent in order to excuse them going on an adventure alone has never been a problem in the past.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with going in the direction of a young, ambitious kid who gets swept up in the adventure unknown to the parent, who might be worried sick and go out looking for them (pic related).
A movie about a boy becoming a man is NOT a movie that Disney would make in current year. The original Star Wars had that same kind of story. Now look at the kind of stories Disney uses Star Wars for now.
>look at the kind of stories Disney uses Star Wars for now.
the same story that was written for the original star wars just changes the race and sex of the characters but basically the same plot over and over and over and over...
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nope! It's just a bunch of Mary Sues instead of being about overcoming adversity and growing as a person. Plus, emasculating any male characters.
>if you don't like my pedophilic by simultaneously submissive fetishes and instead just want to have a story of comradery that means you are gay because the only reason you would ever want any story to ever exist is to fulfill a fetish desire
That actually doesn't sound too far off. With Jack being closer to Flynn from Tangled with his own self-centered motives to get the giant out of the house.
I think it was having what were essentially two stories getting mashed together in a satisfying way. Greno was originally the sole director of the film, but then they brought the head of story for Inside Out in to help marry the two ideas together.
Massive size disparities can be fun in theory, but from a storytelling/dynamic-building perspective it can be extremely tricky to pull off well.
Both those movies had crappy stories and when someone says it got shelved because of story problems, I believe them. Just looking at the premise, what direction are you supposed to go in with this movie? The whole point of Jack & the Beanstalk is that Jack defeats the Giant. If the Giant is Jack's buddy, what's the conflict? The Giant's parent? Is Jack going to kill a little girl's guardian? Do the Giants want to destroy the humans and Jack has to talk them down?
It just seems like a half-baked idea whose only hook was the "twist" that the Giant is actually a little girl.
I can't tell if this is true or not, I think it was in this board that someone shared an image and text that allegedly, the girl was a teenager princess and was being forced to get married. There was political intrigue etc.
(My interpretation) The little guy would then becone her confidant / Jiminy Cricket.
I think it was having what were essentially two stories getting mashed together in a satisfying way. Greno was originally the sole director of the film, but then they brought the head of story for Inside Out in to help marry the two ideas together.
Massive size disparities can be fun in theory, but from a storytelling/dynamic-building perspective it can be extremely tricky to pull off well.
My guess was that there was one story that was huge epic adventure vanquishing war like giants. And the other one was a small scale story with giant girl and Jack becoming friends. The movie was someone on staff's barely concealed fetish.
Did have a rough idea for my own take where Jack's essentially split into a pair of farmers-turned-thieves, young guy and girl that team up with an unremarkable giant. Did stick with the vague themes we have for the canceled Disney movie, though the villain would be a Galileo/Columbus mix that's so hellbent on proving himself to the general giant populous that he's willing to wrench their country out of the sky to take over the earth
The movie that was worked in its place was Raya and the Last Dragon. I think I'd have preferred Gigantic instead.
Meanwhile, on Quora...
>a movie that costs $50 million but will bring in $150 million is a better deal than one that costs $1 million even if it brings $20 million
What a load of crap from that "Steven Haddock" guy.
The $1 million movie would've made 20x it's money, with very little risk. A great deal
The fact that only people here still keep talking about this literal nothing of a movie concept (most likely even just a handful of obsessed individuals trying to vocal minority its importance) just makes me more happy it never came to be.
That’s the reason. It’s two white people falling in love and Disney doesn’t want that anymore. Gay uggo brown dude? Yes. Gay snow witches, hell throw in the bait to axe Kristoff and Anna’s romance? Oh gawd they’re twisting their nipples, there. Straight white romance? SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT DOWN RIGHT NOW MAKE LIVE ACTION MOVIES WITH BROWN UGGO MERMAID
Jan Clan’s gonna Van me for it, I don’t care, it’s the reason. It’s what drives them now. Hatred of the world that made their company.
Anons fetishizing this make no sense, a little girl by sheer virtue of being a child would absent mindedly snap your limbs and crush your body into pieces before tossing you away and crawling over to the next doll
The movie that was worked in its place was Raya and the Last Dragon. I think I'd have preferred Gigantic instead.
[...] >a movie that costs $50 million but will bring in $150 million is a better deal than one that costs $1 million even if it brings $20 million
What a load of crap from that "Steven Haddock" guy.
The $1 million movie would've made 20x it's money, with very little risk. A great deal
people at the top are fricking moronic and want max profit for trash instead of releasing multiple good projects that still make profit
What would a little girl even bother doing with a tiny human, almost anything can be done to barbies instead along with not worrying about accidently killing the little guy
Weirdo fetishists
This is the same company that made Alice in Wonderland
Half a century earlier.
>I love my little man,
>I love my little man,
>you can make him do this,
>you can make him do this.
>You can wash him in a dish,
>be careful he gets ticklish,
>my teeny little man.
>In a life that's kind of lonely,
>I thought if only,
>I had a little man.
>Imagine vigorously massaging the giant flesh blob that is her bean
They should have leaned into it
I'm waiting for companies to truly embrace this logic once they realize it'll get hundreds of thousands of weirdos to purchase their product regardless of its quality otherwise.
greed which caused all these terrible live action movies and sequels which people still watched
thats for everything ever released
Yeah because all those other movies have zero fetishes in them. Fricking moron.
Didn't stop Zootopia
The chad move is to just make what you want regardless of what everyone else thinks.
anyone who genuinely believes that this is the reason it got canned is completeley fricking moronic
I dont think I'll ever be able to see this movie's poster and not think of the anon who fantasized the giant e-girl doing all sorts of stuff with him up to and including taking a shit on him
>the anon who fantasized the giant e-girl doing all sorts of stuff with him
That's kinda ho-
>up to and including taking a shit on him
you don't want to be shrunk and put in a jar and then ur giantess gf fills it with poop?
>I will never get to watch this movie.
Kill me, life is so cruel.
>letting internet perverts cancel your creation
KWAB, sickos ALWAYS gonna sicko and it's dumb to pay them any mind at all.
Even when the sickos are part of the production staff?
>sees jar
>girl smirking
Oh no…
>10 seconds apart
Based
Just fire them and move on. It'll teach the rest to keep their shit under wraps, after all you want smart sneaky sickos working for you not out and proud no subtlety having dumbasses.
Back then nobody knew about the freaks, you dipshit. The problem is that with the internet everyone knows about that shit. You're never gonna get another HR Giger in this world again.
>Back then
>2017
>back then
Yeah I'm pretty sure everyone knew about the internet back in ye ancient halcyon days of six years anon.
Alien came out in 1979, you moronic zoomer.
I was referring to Gigantic you lead paint chips eating boomer.
Which means you didn't read the post, you broccoli-haired simp.
>PUT SOME HOLES IN THE DAMN LID
What's the REAL reason? Did the director ever say anything about it?
The only semi-official thing I could find was that there were 'creative differences' which lead to the cancellation. Idk what that means.
guess those differences was that someone didnt like the protags where white
I feel like the creatives fell in love with Inma too much. Notice how much concept art has her in it- she was taking over the whole story. She was based on a real little girl they met in Spain. Making the character suffer probably felt like they were wishing to do the same to the real Inma.
They were 70% done with the movie. They couldn't figure out what to do for the end.
Like what they said was
>Jack breaks the treaty of entering giants realm
>Giants invade the human world
They got stuck on "What do the giants do?"
From attack on titan, it seems pretty obvious. But TLDR: The movie was pretty much finished. They just couldn't get the last part finished so they shelved it.
This why when you write a story you start with the beginning AND the ending. You know what the story is leading up to. You can also revise the ending if it doesn't mesh with the rest of the story.
There's apparently musical numbers and animation of Gigantic which are now lost media.
I'm glad that this movie is lost media and that it will never see the light of day. It was destined for failure.
You really want me to believe they couldn't make this work, while movies like Lightyear and Strange World were fine?
Has a shelved disney movie ever make a release later on?
Yes, mulitple.
Alice in Wonderland and Beauty and the Beast were shelved products eventually finished and released
How long were those shelved for? I know Alice was still made when Walt was alive so he must've gave them the go ahead on that one, but what was the reasoning for Beauty and the Beast to be finished.
Alice was in development hell because of WW2 and issues with trying to figure out the tone and what to keep or cut. Peter Pan was also affected by WW2.
Beauty and the Beast was struggling with how to handle the romance
Little Mermaid was going to be part of a larger "Hans Christian Anderson biopic with animated versions of his stories", but that larger project fell apart. That Steadfast Tin Soldier segment in Fantasia 2000 was also based mostly on storyboards developed for this project.
Tangled was previously Rapunzel Unbraided and was an Isekai. Had a neat painted look.
There's a few seconds of fully rendered footage and a lengthy animation on YouTube. Chicken Little flopped, Disney scrapped all their post modern animations. Lasseter became disney animation head, revived the project as a traditional fairy tale and started the 2nd renaissance.
Worth noting all the songs composed for it reverted back to the writers. A song from Jack climbing the beanstalk became "We the people" from that Obama politics show. If this is revived, its probably starting from scratch. The D23 wasn't even the final rework they came up with.
>isekai
Fricking have a nice day you stupid fricking weeb pieces of shit. The genre existed before the fricking japs got their hands on it
Brad Bird wanted to make Ray Gunn for a long time but never got the chance.
He's now making it for Skydance.
>Ray Gunn
What's that?
Retro sci-fi detective noir. Don't believe any images of it are around yet
Genre: Animation/Film Noir
Premise: In a futuristic world co-habitated by aliens and humans, the last human private eye is hired to investigate the fidelity of a well-known pop star.
oh, so it's just Blade Runner
It's an animation film about people cheating on each other and having sex with one another. Can't imagine why nobody would pick it up.
Incredibles had the same thing
And who framed Roger rabbit. These things just go over kids heads.
This seems like the perfect 90s Dreamworks movie to flip or something Disney could have done if Treasure Planet and Atlantis had succeeded above and beyond their targets.
He's making an adult animated film not based around Weed Jokes, Swearing and Gore? Nice.
The concept of Wreck-It Ralph had been discussed by Disney since the 80s when the gaming fad started. Being put on the shelf repeatedly, due to lack of interest by the studio past pre-production. Essentially, just a game character tired of his game so he goes to other games. It got started and stopped a few times with names like 'High-Score' in the 80s and Joe Jump in the 90s, and then Reboot Ralph in the early 00s before cementing into a more refined project in the mid 00s. A lot of different hands juggled the film around, but aside from Frozen evolving from the concept of the Snow Queen (which was pretty unrelated from the idea bounced around in Walt's time) it's probably the longest any (public) Disney project has gone from concept to release without being scrapped.
Those two movies didn't actually work. A movie about a wimpy guy being mistreated by feisty giant girl isn't really something most non-fetishists would want to see.
Jack being a brave Spaniard being taken in by a wimpy shut-in giant boy may have actually worked. Giant boy treats the Spaniard like he's a cute little pet. Until the Spaniard inspires the boy to leave his comfort zone and explore the world. Spaniard acts as a mentor and father figure, giant boy acts as his caretaker and transportation. They go on adventures.
>A movie about a wimpy guy being mistreated by feisty giant girl isn't really something most non-fetishists would want to see.
>Proceeds to suggest his own fetish filled plot as an alternative
We see through you're homosexual spanish giant dom fetish.
Jack was supposed to be from Spain during the Age of Exploration in the movie. A story about a wimpy boy learning to become a man thanks to a male role model is pretty mainstream. It's a movie that would bring in a male audience.
What kind of audience is a movie about a feisty giant girl who mistreats a wimpy guy even for?
Ultimately Disney had to square a circle.
Too young she can't be a proper disney princess (6 year olds don't want to play dress up as a 8 year old). Too old and you have a fetishism romance angle.
Can't age down jack as it makes his mother look like a shitty parent
Why does the giant girl have to be a Disney Princess? Give her and Jack a 10 age difference. Or have the same age difference as Wreck-it Ralph and the brat Sarah Silverman voiced.
This was a full musical, it was going to be their big blockbuster, 100% they wanted a princess
Should have made Jack a woman.
Make Jack a girl who encounters a giant boy.
Gay
gay
should have just made Jack into a tomboy girl and kept Irma so have two female leads
A women and a giant girl or a man and a giant boy. Making both of the leads the same sex basically removes any kind of fetishistic romance angle that the movie could go into.
better with two girls one giant and one normal since hasnt been done before
wouldnt mind the other version they had
Gay
>same age difference as Wreck-it Ralph and the brat Sarah Silverman voiced.
2 retcon that. Ralph is apparently the same age as her or at least a kid.
>Can't age down jack as it makes his mother look like a shitty parent
Disney making character orphans or giving them a shitty parent in order to excuse them going on an adventure alone has never been a problem in the past.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with going in the direction of a young, ambitious kid who gets swept up in the adventure unknown to the parent, who might be worried sick and go out looking for them (pic related).
A movie about a boy becoming a man is NOT a movie that Disney would make in current year. The original Star Wars had that same kind of story. Now look at the kind of stories Disney uses Star Wars for now.
Apparently, good art is something they don't do either.
>look at the kind of stories Disney uses Star Wars for now.
the same story that was written for the original star wars just changes the race and sex of the characters but basically the same plot over and over and over and over...
Nope! It's just a bunch of Mary Sues instead of being about overcoming adversity and growing as a person. Plus, emasculating any male characters.
Just admit you're gay homie.
Holy gay
>if you don't like my pedophilic by simultaneously submissive fetishes and instead just want to have a story of comradery that means you are gay because the only reason you would ever want any story to ever exist is to fulfill a fetish desire
Projecting
So what you’re saying is: Pinocchio, except Jiminy Cricket is the protagonist
That actually doesn't sound too far off. With Jack being closer to Flynn from Tangled with his own self-centered motives to get the giant out of the house.
>Lightyear and Strange World were fine?
Lasseter wasn't there for tard wrangling
I think it was having what were essentially two stories getting mashed together in a satisfying way. Greno was originally the sole director of the film, but then they brought the head of story for Inside Out in to help marry the two ideas together.
Massive size disparities can be fun in theory, but from a storytelling/dynamic-building perspective it can be extremely tricky to pull off well.
Both those movies had crappy stories and when someone says it got shelved because of story problems, I believe them. Just looking at the premise, what direction are you supposed to go in with this movie? The whole point of Jack & the Beanstalk is that Jack defeats the Giant. If the Giant is Jack's buddy, what's the conflict? The Giant's parent? Is Jack going to kill a little girl's guardian? Do the Giants want to destroy the humans and Jack has to talk them down?
It just seems like a half-baked idea whose only hook was the "twist" that the Giant is actually a little girl.
I can't tell if this is true or not, I think it was in this board that someone shared an image and text that allegedly, the girl was a teenager princess and was being forced to get married. There was political intrigue etc.
(My interpretation) The little guy would then becone her confidant / Jiminy Cricket.
Sounds like it could have been Jack and the giant team up to get rid of an evil giant. Sounds simple enough.
Chop down the stalk and let it fall to it's death
I'm still mad.
>this is the only time we see a cat (or really any housepet) in the movie
>you can’t marry a moose you just met
They couldn't decide what relationship should the leads be
How old would Jack be specifically
It wasn't Frozen and it wasn't live action. All that Disney cares about any more.
>What exactly went wrong with this unreleased Disney movie?
Sauce: https://anon.to/GvPPoH
My guess was that there was one story that was huge epic adventure vanquishing war like giants. And the other one was a small scale story with giant girl and Jack becoming friends.
The movie was someone on staff's barely concealed fetish.
Giant thicc cut opera singing braunhildr viking ladies
Did have a rough idea for my own take where Jack's essentially split into a pair of farmers-turned-thieves, young guy and girl that team up with an unremarkable giant. Did stick with the vague themes we have for the canceled Disney movie, though the villain would be a Galileo/Columbus mix that's so hellbent on proving himself to the general giant populous that he's willing to wrench their country out of the sky to take over the earth
The movie that was worked in its place was Raya and the Last Dragon. I think I'd have preferred Gigantic instead.
>a movie that costs $50 million but will bring in $150 million is a better deal than one that costs $1 million even if it brings $20 million
What a load of crap from that "Steven Haddock" guy.
The $1 million movie would've made 20x it's money, with very little risk. A great deal
Meanwhile, on Quora...
Generic brown protagonist
Giant was a breasts
If Disney wanted to adapt a story about Spain and giants why didn’t they go with this? It also has BLACK AMAZONS, twitter would love it.
Gigantic is released with the giant blond white girl replaced with a black QWEEN.
>Disney Exec: Budget is fricked, we're planning a streaming service to kill Netflix, which movie do we can?
And then a bunch of accountants found out that Gigantic is based on Jack and the Beanstalk, and a recent movie starring Nicholas Holt flopped hard.
The fact that only people here still keep talking about this literal nothing of a movie concept (most likely even just a handful of obsessed individuals trying to vocal minority its importance) just makes me more happy it never came to be.
Anon, I am D&D player. I like Giants. Do you have any problem with that?
>What exactly went wrong
The BFG and Jack the Giant Slayer, particularly BFG because it was Disney's own film
White protagonists
Seriously
That’s the reason. It’s two white people falling in love and Disney doesn’t want that anymore. Gay uggo brown dude? Yes. Gay snow witches, hell throw in the bait to axe Kristoff and Anna’s romance? Oh gawd they’re twisting their nipples, there. Straight white romance? SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT DOWN RIGHT NOW MAKE LIVE ACTION MOVIES WITH BROWN UGGO MERMAID
Jan Clan’s gonna Van me for it, I don’t care, it’s the reason. It’s what drives them now. Hatred of the world that made their company.
Anons fetishizing this make no sense, a little girl by sheer virtue of being a child would absent mindedly snap your limbs and crush your body into pieces before tossing you away and crawling over to the next doll
Oh, the tragedy.
Giant underage girl and a tiny man... What could possibly originate on the internet if this movie ever released.
*ehem*
AAAAAAAHHH
FRICK DISNEY
FRICK DISNEY
FRICK DISNEY
Too many risky angles.
Something about this feels… French.
Gay
Your gay
God bless the french
based
need Jack getting put in jars and a leash to be petted while struggling to untie himself through out the movie
Where is this from?
Dofus, same setting as Wakfu.
Merci beaucoup!
Hmm
>The leash from her wrist to seemingly his crotch
What the frick lmao
probably tied to his ankle
people at the top are fricking moronic and want max profit for trash instead of releasing multiple good projects that still make profit
Can YOU promise me you won't whip your dick out during the screening?
What would a little girl even bother doing with a tiny human, almost anything can be done to barbies instead along with not worrying about accidently killing the little guy
Is there any leaked script of this film or anything?
Amazing how the Wish thread is dead but this thread for a shelved Disney film is still around.
Because it's a lot more entertaining concept than "Brown Girl and her Talking Animal Friends"
The Moorish Spain fetish community isn't as big as the giantess one, pun intended.
>voregays
we all know the giantess in the movie would never do this.