God damn it. It's actually good. They even got the genuinely talented actor from the broadway version of Beetlejuice to play Adam
Now I am owned
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Velvet best girl!
I like smug b***hes
can't get over her fricking bean on toast accent.
Total Bong death.
sad life choices
>They even got the genuinely talented actor from the broadway version of Beetlejuice to play Adam
Who cares, he's going to LOSE. He's the villain of this stupid subversion story.
Bros, Viv hate is over. We lost. Pack it up. Go home. She won by making a good series. Cinemaphile will never recover.
No homosexual.
>Good series
An okay series. Kinda hit or miss with the songs honestly.
Count your blessings for not posting that in Cinemaphile.
Ooo, I should go over there to drink up the hate, huh?
Guess I can do my hot take.
>Happy Day in Hell
Opening song. That animation error of Vaggie disappearing really rubs me wrong and the whole thing comes off way too disney.
>Adam's song
Least she understands a villain song.
>Vox's song about hating Alastor
Guess not. Didn't need a wank session over Alastor being built up only for him to be shrugged off by his peers in the next episode as nothing.
>It starts with sorry
Wasn't bad and kinda disappointed it was short.
>Overlord meeting song
Pass.
>Whatever the frick her b***h ass name is and Vaggie singing.
Pass again.
>Poison
Hey this cum in my coffee tastes bretty good!
>Keith David's song
Hey Keith David's cum tastes pretty good! More please!
Hopefully Charlie's dad gets a song in his episode.
The only critique I have is how frickig fast the frames are. She needs to learn to slow shit down
>Hopefully Charlie's dad gets a song in his episode.
He does, a roughly 5-second sound clip of it was leaked
It’s an odd choice of voice for sure, not sure I like it but it does sort of match the personality Charlie’s described in episode one
He sounds like a boyband which is more or less what I expected from that design. Based purely off that excerpt in episode 1 he was literally Charlie with his naive idealism and desire to bend the rules.
God, I really hope they do Charlie's parents right instead of the fricking disaster that happened with the Goetia's.
This is my only complaint with the series, I think id only ever wanna listen to one of those songs again. They where way too frequent, I wish they cut 50% of them and made the ones they did keep more catchy.
>making a good series.
>literally one episode
>he doesn't know
we'll see how good is it compared with the rest of stuff that comes out this year, or this semester. for now its the only cartoon i care to watch but only bc Cinemaphile hasnt mentioned anything else yet
The "armature" voice actors from the pilot were more enthused. The episodes sound like people just reading the script.
any bad boys in this thread?
sorry I don't jack off to STRAIGHT characters. This is troon toon country.
I haven't brushed my teeth in 2 days
>lesbian
Okay first off anon, she's bisexual.
yeah. lesbian
REAL QUESTION
What does Alastor ACTUALLY do? Like when he turns into that edgy goth version of himself, does he actually do bad things? What is this effect supposed to do to hurt people? Like are people supposed to actually be afraid of this shit?
I keep thinking that all he does is mean mug you as an intimidation tactic. And it reminds me of how someone tried to do that Grim (Billy and Mandy) and how it had no effect on him because he'd already been enduring the most horrible pain possible... I forgot that episode, what was the guy trying to do?
>what is Grim??
In the webcomics he actually just cannibalizes his enemies. Like Alastor straight-up eats people. I dunno about you all, but that's actually somewhat threatening to me.
>The webcomics
How often does he do it? Fricking do it MORE if you're such a hell beast. I doubt he's gonna actually do any of that in the show?
How well does he take a bullet through the gut?
All his screen time has been at the Hotel, in a meeting with his equals, or on the streets around people already afraid of him. I guess they haven't given him the scenario to do so. I'd like to see it too.
Alastor's a fricking twig. He eat anyone they can just break him apart from the inside.
What the frick does that even mean for hell denizens when it's stated they respawn if they die and only angel weapons can kill him permanently? Does the meat just disappear from Alastor's stomach seconds after he cannibalizes them?
It says it right in the show, he just got tried of it. He stopped caring about being scary because it became boring
Bro you're on Cinemaphile. Know your audience. Media literacy is down the hall and to the left.
>Media literacy
Twitter is down the hall and to the left
Did you reply to the wrong anon, my post was about how the mechanics of Alastor shitting out sinner meat works
well considering the "unlucky b***h" that got gored by Val wasn't able to "pull herself back together before show" it seems there is lengthy respawn time.
We see dead bodies all the time, so the meat just stays behind and you get a new body
Which I guess that means you can frick or eat your own dead body.
Oh so it's my personal Heaven. We're doing a reverse Good Place.
>interacting with ***** poster
There’s a webcomic? Gotta check this out
There's a short comic, like a one shot. Also not as graphic as one might expect. He just kills some demon preying on a weaker demon.
There is older art of him eating deer when he was a deer.
Idk if there's more than that.
If you watched even the pilot you'd know what he could do.
Not a scene of that is actually scary. He's just standing there... MENACINGLY
He sucks Pentious into a hell portal. And he fricks him over again with more weird magic in episode 2. He doesn't just look scary.
I can reference a MILLION other "portals to hell" that actually show the extent of their madness, and I'd say any time this show breaks into a musical number is an actual hellish punishment.
Keith David made this homie cool and not a whiny mope
Keith David was miscast as Husk. Ricepirate was way better
The voice is good, the fit isn’t really there, yeah. Hopefully time will have us grow on the Hollywood replacement.
It's okay at best, anon. Like the most low 6/high 5 I can give it. Some good stuff like Vox, Husk, Pentious and both of the previous songs save this show from being lower. Story isn't that incredible and anyone who tells you this is better than the pilot is a lying homosexual.
It's better than the pilot. Cope seethe and mald you anti-sellout shill.
>anti-sellout shill
What does that even mean
It means you WANT to have the show not get to the point where it is and remain as some Tubeslop like Helluva Boss. You are a b***h and I hope they wear your face the next time you turn left to go get your groceries, fatso.
>I hope they wear your face the next time you turn left to go get your groceries
What the frick does that mean anon? Are you actual schizo posting?
And yes, I'd prefer a show keep to its roots and stay small than to get big and become something worse.
But that doesn't apply here, because I don't think it got worse because it got big. I think it'd have been really mediocre because that's the trend with Viv's stuff. Starts off with an interesting premise and a decent pilot, decays into something worse as it becomes a show.
>Are you actually *rodditspeak*
Go frick yourself.
The show is fine, and has more structure and better jokes than the pilot. Like, actual jokes. As long as actual writers start writing these new episodes (that’s why episode 3 was so fun and so far the best one), the show can be lifted up off of whatever mediocrity it sprung from.
>As long as actual writers start writing these new episodes
I thought Viv said she wrote all of the Hazbin episodes and also brought her terrible gay co-writer Adam over from HB, but it doesn't feel like she wrote most of it at all when compared to the abomination that is Helluva. The credits list a script supervisor but no writers. I wonder if people started recognizing how she can't write for shit and did a lot of the work for her.
nahh the show sucks!!!.... does anyone has a link to watch it free?
>Husk as a begrudging father/uncle figure to Angel Dust who forces him to cut the bullshit was actually working really well as a dynamic since AD so clearly screams daddy issues loser who never had a decent male role model in his childhood
>Viv can't help but ruin this by having them frick since this Hell is a yaoiland
Bravo
Honestly it'll completely ruin the show for me if they end up becoming a couple - it'll completely devalue the compassion they showed for one another by making it so that it seemed they were only nice to each other cause they secretly wanted to bang.
The Eggs annoying Alastor while they were walking to the (not) Mafia Capo meetup was funny.
The eggs are the best characters in the show.
Charlie loving everyone but not liking Niffty is my favorite gag so far
Why does Vaggie know military shit?
>Why does Vaggie know military shit?
Because she was in the military.
Just not a Human military.
Oh so EVERY supernatural being with grey-purple skin is an Exorcist? Racist b***h.
So was I. Oddly enough she realistically goes emotionally to pieces after trying to do the tough drill sergeant act, fricking it up, and discovering she's incapable of leading men - just like a real real woman. Good job on accuracy there Viv.
Why is an angel a latina?
she is from el salvador, learn some history aside of your lincolnshit
She used to be an exterminator Angel who was probably defective / didn’t like killing so she got kicked out.
>have Prime for shipping but never actually used Prime Video
>hop on to witness some of the different language dub for the show
>worst streaming UI I have ever seen
Jesus christ yes, thank you. Who the frick puts the control menu in the top right of the screen and not the bottom left? And the skip forward/backwards button is in the center of the frame covering everything? I had a couple moments where I wanted to pause and admire the backgrounds or sight gags and the pause hud takes up half the screen and takes forever to disappear.
The shows definitely not a ‘10/10 will define a generation’ level production like what the underage gays who watch it will claim in reviews.
but at the same time, I think Cinemaphile is the tiniest little bit fricked over that the show isn’t as ‘bad’ as they spent months posting it would be and just don’t want to admit it
it’s like a 7/10 so far for me
>it’s like a 7/10 so far for me
course it's only a 7/10 that's still a mid tier.
It's over hyped, and all based on personal preference. My preference is that it's just dog shit with few redeeming qualities and I just like shitting on it for fun!
Oh it will define a generation all right, it will be the I-Pad kid and late Zoomers equivalent of homestuck
To be fair it's mostly Viv herself they rag and on and boy howdy does she produce gems. Got dudes making fake accounts telling SA victims to "feel bad all they want but my SA trauma is doing fine so she is in the clear". The fact she has zoomer followers doing this is even better.
>>Got dudes making fake accounts
>actual children
>>The fact she has zoomer followers doing this is even better.
>gen Alpha now
>Viv still gets triggered
She's really easy to pick on
>"You are triggered by a man being raped on camera because you were raped by someone? Sounds like a major you issue and not vivzies problem gay. Lel."
The fact even Cinemaphile struggles to dislike this means it's a 10/10 for the intended audience.
No one on here should be disappointed it doesn’t suck except the really autistic haters. I’m part way through episode 3 and it is actually pretty enjoyable so far. WAY better than what Helluva Boss has become, like miles better. I kneel Viv
Yeah, it really shows how Helluva lost it's way, and I don't really hate it that much. Guess we know where all the focus went.
Gonna pay someone $50,001 for a self-insert amv of Niffty pegging me and calling me slurs
Niffty is from the 50s, she would probably call you the Black person word for free
Even better
worth it
inb4 executioners can only be killed by "redeemed" demons (that still swear constantly and engage in mass perversion).
>It's actually good
what? It isn't.
>episode 1 - 4/10
>episode 2 - 8/10
>episode 3 - 6/10
>episode 4 - 4/10
>8/10
C’mon the pacing was terrible in that episode.
Updated collection of reviews, with screenrant and variety's reviews added
11 mostly positive reviews so far:
https://www.comicsbeat.com/tv-review-check-in-for-a-sacrilicious-sing-along-at-hazbin-hotel/
https://television.mxdwn.com/reviews/review-hazbin-hotel-season-1-episode-1-overture/ and https://television.mxdwn.com/reviews/review-hazbin-hotel-season-1-episode-2-radio-killed-the-video-star/
https://thecosmiccircus.com/hazbin-hotel-brings-heaven-hell-hilarity-and-heart-to-prime-video/
https://collider.com/hazbin-hotel-tv-series-review/
https://fandomwire.com/hazbin-hotel-review-long-awaited-adult-animated-series-is-darkly-funny-charming/
https://thehollywoodhandle.co/2024/animated/hazbin-hotel-episode-1-5-review-a-hellish-blast/
https://mamasgeeky.com/2024/01/hazbin-hotel-season-one-review.html
https://theilluminerdi.com/2024/01/15/hazbin-hotel-hotel-series-review/
https://inbetweendrafts.com/hazbin-hotel-season-1-review-the-adult-animated-musical-is-a-hell-of-a-good-time/
https://butwhytho.net/2024/01/hazbin-hotel-review-a24/
https://screenrant.com/hazbin-hotel-tv-review/
5 reviews with more mixed/negative elements so far:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/hazbin-hotel-review-the-most-frustrating-kind-of-raunchy-adult-tv
https://mashable.com/article/hazbin-hotel-season-1-review
https://www.bubbleblabber.com/2024/01/season-review-hazbin-hotel-season-one/
https://www.avclub.com/tv-review-prime-video-animated-series-hazbin-hotel-1851163803 (also found at https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/hazbin-hotel-review-vivid-stylish-130000437.html )
https://variety.com/2024/tv/tv-reviews/hazbin-hotel-review-a24-amazon-prime-1235843846/
The variety one:
And though “Hazbin Hotel” bills itself as a comedy, its musical numbers are disarmingly straightforward anthems about craving approval or success. They’re not irreverent or ironic…except when they occasionally are, leaving the viewer even more confused as to how they’re meant to feel about the series’ events.
PIGGZYPOP ANGRY
Does anyone have an MP4 of Addict yet?
You should be allowed to post it here im guessing.
Their all ken dolls and we only see slight ass-crack like Raven in her leotard.
*Poison
nifty best girl
There's something off about all the voices, it's all slightly tinny or something hard to put a finger on it but it's just weird.
The loser song is kinda nice. But it's really hard to like it enterally because it's talking down to a rape victim. Like what the frick, Vizie? Use the song on Charlie and Husk. Not on Angel who got raped.
>He doesn't know that Viv got rape pilled by Raph
>enterally
Entirely, frick my misspelling.
Angel wasn't being raped, Look at the faces he was making the entire time, He's a completely mindbroken sex-thirsting sissy. The only thing that seemed to upset him was the PHYSICAL AND NOT SEXUAL violence of being thrown against walls.
he got raped. He should just get over it like we all do. My hand gets raped when I drag it down to my dick and stroke it endlessly and I don't hear it screaming and crying. I think it makes signs but I don't know sign language.
But he is a loser. It’s not like he won the raping.
Yes. When you get raped you are definitely on the losing end. Is there any scenario where you get raped that is a positive outcome?
Feel like the point of the song is Husk making a connection with Angel less through the rape stuff and more through the actual degenerative stuff.
>get rid of the eggs humanely
>in hell
What the frick was Vaggie expecting.
Also what are those eggs? Aren't they sinners?
Pentious maybe made them as some sort of biological experimentation.
So their power-level is probably on par with things like Hellhounds and Imps
all minions go to hell no matter what
They're sperms. Everytime you jerk off, your sperms die and their souls go to hell
>Thought Loser Baby would be a shit song from the name
>Ends up being one of if not the best song so far.
Pleasant surprise
HAZBIN HOTEL IS GOOD!
AND ONLY GETTING BETTER!
Of course Keith David's song would be top tier
Not bad, the only thing I came here to b***h about was Vagie's new voice sucks.
Adam's a bit too much of a dick and his position is weird. But I can get over that more than Vagie's (non-singing) weird man voice.
There should be an Internet Demon.
if this wasn't a shitty musical which breaks into song every ten minutes I'd be able to fully appreciate it, rn though, 6/10
also what the frick did they do to her voice
she sounds like a man now. her voice in the pilot was perfect.
Got replaced by Blitzo's VA
Is Toumar in any eps? I can't tell if he's still voicing the eggs
>she sounds like a man now
Well... there's a reason for that...
oh she's actually voiced by a man
the frick? what the hell kind of logic has the VA replaced for that?
There was backlash about katie killjoy saying "i dont touch the gays".
Imo, they changed the VA to Brandon Rogers as a 'lol well here now she's voiced by a guy instead, because reasons.'
I hate how the "black lash" changes everything that was actually good about the show into something bland and worse off after removing it.
There should be a running gag where Katie’s voice switches voice actors until they get the right one to stay for the rest of the series.
>There was backlash about katie killjoy saying "i dont touch the gays".
The frick? why? She's portrayed as a complete b***h in general. Is hell supposed to be free of bigots?
>Is hell supposed to be free of bigots?
In Viv's hell yes.
>Rape and murder
Completely fine
>Bigotry
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yes according to xformerlyknowastwitterdotcom
>people got upset that a bigot was in hell
Are you fricking serious? I swear to God these people don’t even remember what the show is about until they want to use it to deflect criticism.
>Sorry pilot cast, you guys aren't allowed to come to my new fancy Amazon show
>well Mick you can voice a random NPC we'll call trenchcoat demon I guess
>Oh Brandon? Yes please voice a named character and completely ruin her!
i don't like Husk's voice change either. the pilot one fit the drunken archetype better.
Just heard the song. It's all fricking autotuned and it's terrible. I can't make it through any of these songs. They have such terrible sound mixing and that terrible theater performance quirks. Like AD always having that "new yorker" twang to his voice.
It's NOT even fine if it causes physical pain to endure it.
How can any of you tolerate this?
Getting this worked up over a fricking cartoon to the point where you describe it as some physical incarnation skull-fricking your homosexual ass pain receptors in your brain? homie, you should actually go back to the therapist you were assigned to since high school. This Hazbin shit is not for you, loser.
i'm only in here to ruin YOUR enjoyment of the show. That's my therapy.
As if I frequent this dilating ass board, lmfao. Came here to drop nuggets of kick-ass and drive you insane to the point of suffering a stroke. Vivienne is a lot of things, but for now, she is a winner.
The shit she's gotta put up with with the people who supposedly love this show suggest it's more stress than it's worth. She moved to Threads. Real winning move?
>Threads
Only corporate entities post on Zuckerberg's Meta's Facebook's Instagram expansion; Threads
To create a social hub to specifically cater to her die hards. I’m not gay, so I don’t see the problem with this, or your stupid narrative.
See you in season 2.
>season 2.
You mean the 2nd half to one season that they're just going to arbitrarily call season 2 in order to fulfill contractual obligations to SAY it has "two seasons" worth of content.
You know full well that a 2nd season doesn't MEAN shit in the stream world like it used to in the 90s.
>continuing a show doesn't mean anything still because this ain't the 90s, dude! wacky and tubular were words worth using, man!
>schizo theory about why the rest of the episodes haven't come out yet (they will, and you will be in the ER after you go into shock once they release)
>seething this hard over a Vivziepop cartoon
Now I might just come back to this board more often like how I did in 2020. Unwarranted and swarthy Black personbitching is just what I need to get even more enjoyment out of my day. Take five, bro. You won't have to worry about the show for a few more months anymore.
>Unwarranted and swarthy Black personbitching is just what I need to get even more enjoyment out of my day. Take five,
Oh yeah, there's no other place to really go off on this shit, but I don't think I'll come back around to it. It's venting at it's rawest form. I still don't feel like I've reached Guy levels of shit hating because what does that guy do for a living?
My hatred for Viv is deep because I've seen her come out of nowhere, have the shittiest art style anyone could have and tons of better projects never get a chance to take off. Not to mention all the newgrounds people just get thrown in the trash once she gets what she wants out of them.
Also hate that if anyone else wants to have their own Hellverse, it'll always be compared to her trite.
>My hatred for Viv is deep because I've seen her come out of nowhere, have the shittiest art style anyone could have and tons of better projects never get a chance to take off.
Plus her attitude about things in general is poor. Seeing a snowflake tumblrina like her get so popular says something about the world we live in, I guess.
We live in a society.
She got to ride off of SOME sort of clout machine and has a good collection of supporters who'll attack you for not worshiping her. What about that isn't making a packs with devils?
Someone in another thread joked she's like a Trump figure, and we're just waiting for the RIGHT thing to actually ruin the rollarcoster ride. We told you this whole time she was shit, and it's gotta come undone at some point.
If she's trump then what's her 2020 gonna be
I think the whole SA thing was part of that, but now that the episode is out, people are "crying" with love for it.
Time is flat. 10 years ago was yesturday.
>come out of nowhere
What? I've known about Viv for like a decade or so now, she's been notable online for a while. I don't think Hazbin would've taken off so much if she wasn't at least a little bit net famous beforehand.
If you're the same age as Viv, it was Out of Nowhere. If you're a Zoomer, then yes, she's "always been there".
That's not how time works moron
>I get physically unwell when i watch a cartoon that makes me mad.
Med's right now.
Right fricking now.
No meds needed, you're the one with shit taste.
funni bryce tankthrust reference
Used Blitzo's VA to hide the fact that he's going to make a cameo in the final episode
>"Angel, I'll release you from your contract, But..."
>"..."
>"I just need you to star in one more film!...."
Do it Angel!
If everyone likes this now, I hate it. What are some other cringecore underdog shows?
Bros...
What would Alastor have done if he was there?
Not go inside
SEX
This person's... a giver or receiver ?
That twink and these femboys, UNF.
>Using V.R. to be in this bed.
>tfw can't frick hell femboys
I'm going to draw these sexy fricks.
Any ideas on what they can be doing?
The twink with Charlie looks like he'd top one of Angel's co-femboys.
Keith David should have been Valentino, That way he could really be the archetype of the 'white-wifebeater clad with a gold chain jive talking black guy pimp whose raping all his drugged up slaves'
I'd love to hear someone edit David's voice onto Valentinos scenes, just to get a visual of how the design and attitude would mix. His current VA is too tacky sounding and undersells his character
Episodes 1 was horrendous.
Episode 2 not as bad and had a good moment at the end.
Episode 3 is… not really bad I guess. I don’t like how Alastor is somehow less commanding now.
Episode 4?
Wow. This episode was very uncomfortable to get through but it was somehow well put together and the most interesting episode so far? Fans who are victims of SA are so far loving it and are saying that it was executed well, so episode 4 is a winner imo. But that’s 1 good gem in why’s so far a very mixed bag. I’m still committed to continue.
Episode 4 is the best but it's carried hard by Keith David singing. I do not care for Angel's prostitute drama.
Episode 3 was the best episode overall so far. I liked seeing the other Overlords (and especially them barely giving a shit about Alastor), I liked the eggs, and Niffty was fun.
Episode 2 is good because Vox, and especially his dueling duet with Alastor, and again, good Niffty moments.
Episode 1 sucks balls
For the redemption part Angel Dusts prostitute drama works but not when you also have to care about Alastor's story and Vaggie and Charlie and the other shit going on. There is so many characters and so much shit going on.
Episode 4 was 'uncomfortable' to get through because it was gay shit.
The only thing it had going for it was it moved Angel's character forward, showed more of Val's deal, and a bit of shit about that Husk character only furry's seem to give a frick about.
Since I don't care about any of them, all it really did at the end of the day, along with episode 3 was had all the characters now being buddy-buddies at the end. Which was obviously all rushed in these two episodes with that endgame in mind. Even starting episode 3 with Pentius kinda artificially backsliding to set up that as the starting point.
Otherwise were back to just introducing a whole bunch more characters which is a little tiresome at this pace, but at least they're fleshing out a few existing ones.
Charlies cuteness is so forced now. It's still welcome such as it is, but she's worst affected by the low frame count animation. That thing where she's moving her legs and it just looks like a 2 frame stobe effect, what the frick even was that shit? Charliebros are really getting gyped on this deal.
Vaggie continues to just suck which doesn't help.
I think it makes more sense to rate episodes on how they made you feel about the series, and you can see how uneven it is:
1. Confused, Upset and Distracted
>by stupid decisions, changes, and pacing
2. Impressed, Hopeful
>a lot to like even if not exactly perfection
3. A little bored, nonplused
>more set up, character introductions, meh musical numbers
4. Uncomfortable, not having fun
>gay shit, don't care about Angel, Husk, Charlie's developing but away from fun cute Charlie
Felt like the last two at least moved the ball forward, but at an overall rushed unnatural pacing to get to a certain desired point, and what a stupid point to insert a break when audience is probably not experiencing the most positive feelings and in a bad way where the series itself is leaving a bad aftertaste. I wouldn't be shocked if some people just never come back.
It's still so weird they want to either force Husk and Angel or they just wanted to get Husk's backstory out of the way because the way the narrative is set up should be Angel confiding in Charlie about his past with Valentino so she could understand a bit better. Instead she's treated as a kid he needs to apologize to and then she gets a diaper change, a bottle and put to bed by Vaggie.
Angel got upset at Husk turning him down so I think they might be setting up some ships
That was so moronic Vaggie blaming Husk for Angel being a pain in the arse, then storming off when Husk told him to frick off.
Also ironic that 'no' doesn't seem to mean 'no' to either Angel or Viv.
>Instead she's treated as a kid he needs to apologize to and then she gets a diaper change, a bottle and put to bed by Vaggie.
At least that was a sorta cute Charlie moment, I'm taking what I can get at this point.
And to be fair, Angel may well see her as too naive to really understand, but that's me writing the story for Viv in my own head, and giving her the benefit of the doubt.
>every other language Alastor has a normal evil laugh
>Japanese Alastor has a moronic One Piece laugh
Kekaroo
Alastor has a BASED One Piece laugh
ftfy
Well shit, so there IS japanese dubs; I hope the westaboos start posting videos and clips of it soon because I am extremely curious on how the VA's sound there as well as script changes
This is weeb Alastor ignore the cursor
Thanks a bunch! The laugh is pretty funny, he sounds kind of weird but I have no idea how to describe why. Maybe because he sounds straight out of very old anime which adds a clash with his design.
that sounds like shit but now I feel compelled to watch the nip dub. I'm not sure if it's up anywhere else as of yet though. I sure as hell am not getting a prime sub.
That's a fricking Popeye laugh, bruh
Alastor has a moronic One Piece laugh
Did the va also know that Oda has that fansong as his favorite?
Just a reminder if you got raped it's probably because you deserved it and secretly liked it as Angel Dust does or you're damaged goods who needs a daddy to magically sing a song about you being a loser to fix you.
Thank you Vivzie for making this very easy to digest message clear.
Where's the lie though
I wonder how you derived that conclusion from Angel's self destructive behavior and self loathing, or how you take somebody empathizing with a person at rock bottom as bad thing, what would you rather Husk of done leave him by himself? Sometimes people need to face a hard truth to accept it. Honestly you have to be incredibly jaded to disregard these things just to try and get at Viv.
I unno. You ask her. I didn't make Angel's backstory about rape. Go talk to her about it on Threads.
Is it true what people are saying that the 4th episode with all the BDSM and implied rape shit is actually directly lifted from a comic one of the storyboarders for the show made in their own time where its obviously rape and 'mindbreak' porn? [as in they themselves tagged it: Rape, 'Mindbreak' etc]
Alastor needs to have a scene where he slaughters a powerful exorcist. Probably not Adam but his stupid minion chicj
I expect NOONE will die. Noone important is going to die.
One anon said pentious died to protect cherry bomb. No source, but people seemed to believe them for some reason
>pentious died
he fricking better, he seems the most useless.
>Probably not Adam but his stupid minion chicj
No, frick off, Alastor needs to have his ass kicked by her
>Just make it so that as long as Alastor is with them none of the remaining main cast are in any physical danger.
Charlie's probably stronger than him.
And maybe Vaggie too if she's really an angel. She's weirdly not afraid of him and keeps ordering him around.
Charlie it IS stronger than any of them
That's fanmade, and it's still more of a status thing. The Helluva Boss main cast is much stronger than the average imp, for example.
Ars Goetia for example are socialites. Some like Stolas may have some spells but they're helpless otherwise.
It's still based on the official thing
Stolas got his shit handed to him by a random assassin so old shit like this isn't relevant
That's why I said spells. Stolas can do some shit, but he's just a whiny rich b***h without them. From what we've seen of the Goetia, they all seem like that.
*In theory. Don't expect a coherent or consistent cosmology or hierarchy in this shit. It's worldbuilding is nonsense.
I'm cool with Alastor being powerful - even above the Ars Goetia and Deadly Sins, because they are wimps and Helluva Boss Season 2 is an abomination - but him fighting and beating the first man (as deserved as it would be in this setting) would be too tryhard and gary stu of him.
>Kill Lute
>Taking away Adam’s third wife
Good luck dealing a powerful man who had his heart stabbed three times from losing soul mates. And I mean, the only direct Son of God Jesus Christ replaced.
Huh, I just noticed. Does Val mark all his victims or contractees with a gold tooth?
New to the show and just blitzed through the Pilot + these episodes today.
I think its 'ok' so far.
I just don't get what the frick the MESSAGE was with the song between the talking cat guy and the spider?
Like Keith David's singing voice and the other guy are fine. But im sorta with the Spider when he says 'How's this meant to cheer me up?'
Like just 'don't be' sad that your life completely fricked up because other people have somewhat similarly fricked up lives?
Velvette needs correction.
Bratty zoomer demon needs rape correction!
She needs to be off screen
What is it about the dark grey that is so sexy? I can’t understand the appeal it has to me
Even the snake homie likes dick? Maaan, I hate fujos again
oh for frick's sake
Well we basically already knew this about everybody
>Charlie = swings both ways
>Vaggie = dyke
>Husk = Swings both ways
>Angel = Homo
>Alastor = 'Asexual' [Which to these loons is itself considered a sexuality]
So really, This just tells us Pentious is either a gay or swings both ways, and Niffty is based.
Pentious is probably something made up that basically equates to "straight", like pansexual.
Or Pentious isn’t technically counted here since he wasn’t part of the hotel when the first episode dropped.
Will they at least have any straight clients eventually? or will she keep the trend of 90% of hell's population being gays and queers?
They were all made for dicking so their orientation doesn't matter.
Keith David cannot sing.
Even auto tuned.
They guy from They Live and Spawn can't sing? Who would've guessed.
He sang just fine. You just want that bald cuck to voice Husk again.
So will next episodes be out exactly a week from today? as in ~Thursday/Friday next week.
yeah but only the next two. the week after is the final two.
>You identify with a fictional rape victim? That sounds pretty cringe.
He looks like he could suck a mean wiener and the constant threat that he might bite with no follow through just heightens the thrill.
Alastor bawd!
Scratch behind his ears as you thrust to give him a sensory overload. I bet his voice crackles.
Thoughts on whether Rosie/Lilith is true after they didn't even bother to give her a word of dialogue the first time we saw her?
I'm on the fence, but leaning towards that Rosie isn't Lilith, even though I thought it might be the case.
Rosie seems like she's been in Hell for a while, if only based on the fact that in the Pilot she has an established shop that she's scratching someone else’s name out of. Alastor has recently returned to Hell after being gone for a while, so... I don't know. A decent amount of pilot stuff seems to have been changed though, so who knows.
So hard to say, though. Maybe keeping her currently voiceless is deliberate and a plot point.
what did you noticed changed, anon? besides voices of course.
Vaggie doesn't seem to be a sinner anymore - her militaristic vibes and the X eye similarities to the other exterminator angels tend to lean that way.
Charlie is more cuddlefluff now. She fought Katie Killjoy in the pilot, but has been completely passive so far.
Angel Dust has also changed a lot, and in my view for the worst. I'm not a fan of the self inflicted melodrama, but I know it appeals to some.
There's probably other stuff but I havent seen the pilot in a while lol.
I wonder why Alastor selected Husk and Niffty specifically to rope into the hotel staff. He probably has a ton of souls bound to him, so I wonder what the rationale of choosing a former fellow overlord was. I'm also wondering what Niffty's deal is if she stood out to him as much as Husk.
Bro Val what are you doing
He looks like he has down syndrome. I still don’t find this homosexual threatening, they can’t undo first impressions.
Vel and Vox needs to put this dude down if he's licking up Lord Lucifer's daughter unprompted, fricker is more than willing to rope the other two in some deep shit
We'll find out for sure next episode, but it sounds like Lucifer is a basement king who never does much ruling for sinners. Alastor has been in hell for a while and never met him. The old spider overlord seems to think Charlie is just a moron not worth anyone's time.
Velvet and Vox plotting to kill Val for being too much of an unpredictable and unstable frick when
>charming presenter and tech expert
>clever social media manipulator
>shithead pimp
Feels like there's a massive power imbalance there.
Charlie x Valentino when?
>Charlie makes a deal with Val to exchange herself with Angel to save him
I can see the fanfics from here
>Climax of 'Angel v. Valentino' throughline in the plot.
>Angel still has no chance at redemption until he gets out of the porn stuff, but Valentino won't release his contract.
>Charlie being such a cinnamon roll decides there's only one way she can free Angel dust from Val..."*gulp*....Take Valentino up on his offer"
>Disappears from the Hotel while leaving some note for Vaggie or smth.
>Angel walks in one Vaggie crying in her bed / on the couch
>"Hey vegana, Where's Charlie? Aren't we meant to be doing more 'trust building' today or smth?"
>*Vaggie silently passes Angel the note*
>"..."
>"Wait...so....FRICK! FRICK! SHIT! CHARLIE NO!"
>*Runs out of the Hotel towards Val's part of town*
Why was Val's spit all over Angel and Vox's face at the end of the poison song?
I demand more Overlord Husk Viv!
Does anyone have an MP4 of the Angel Dust fricking song from Episode 4?
How would Charlie and Aqua from Konosuba get along?
They'll never give people what they want will they?
Curious about the overlord plot I guess, why are they trying to fight angels rather than the Sins?
>the absolute lack of separate cheeks on that dog woman
I think I get the ironic torture here. None of their porn has sexy bits in it. It truly is Hell.
>Everyone actually IS a Ken and Barbie doll
>Thus why even Angel's fur looking like boobs is treated as a positive.
>Everything including the missionary position sex, blowjobs and Angel making ahegao faces is just ACTUAL acting and camera tricks
The angels are actively attacking them every year, the Sins don't seem to be. If the Angels are gone, they just might.
>Not even a ass crack
Oh c,mon Viv!
So when do you think the episodes will be ripped?
they already are bro. Lurk better.
he's a fan of Vox, you expected him to NOT be moronic?
Your encouragement was not in vain. Thank you anon.
What would have been a better pay-off for this joke instead of Alastor just switching to talking to edge-e whathisname?
>"HEY BOSS, HEY BOSS, HEY BOSS, HEY BOSS, HEY BOSS, HEY BOSS"
>"..."
>"DO YOU WANT US TO DO *A* OR *B* OR *C* OR *D* OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO DO *E* OR *F* OR *G*?"
>"..."
>"HEY BOSS HEY BOSS HEY BOSS HEYBOSS *All seem to start to overlap*
>"..."
>"HEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSSHEYBOSS"
>"..." *Stops smiling for the only time we've seen him so-far, Antlers start getting yuge*
>"WHAT?????????????????
>"..."
>"Hi!"
Did it really need a better pay-off? It was just the eggbois annoying Al, it was fine.
>Hazubin Hoteru trending at #6 on Nip xitter
You'd think with all the gay shit and sex jokes they would hate it
WERE GONNA MAKE IT HAZBIN BROS.
NIPS WILL SAVE THE SHOW!
FOUR SEASONS!
NOT ONE LESS!
Is it only the first 4 episodes?
When is the rest coming out?
4 eps today
2 next week
last 2 week after next
2 a week at the same time.
So 12AM GMT Thursday/Friday next week.
I think that show (and helluva boss) would've been better if every character (except Lucifer and Lilith) were genderbended
Every character huh?
abort abort abort abortabortabortturnbackabirtabort
what's the point to call it adam
Is Lilith in disguise and the one that killed the exterminator?
i am very sad right now. i uploaded my copies to drive and downloaded them to my headset, but now the audio is gone.
>downloaded them to my headset.
Maybe that's your problem? kek
Ever heard of a USB?
People actually try to watch normal stuff on those headsets? Why? I see the appeal of proper vr stuff, but I don't get the impression it works as a home theater.
>Imagine being INSIDE the Poison scene, Using a V.R. headset.
I'm getting a headache from my glasses, admittedly I'm also recovering from a nasty cold, but I don't see how that shit is comfortable for long.
>Imagine being INSIDE the Poison scene, Using a V.R. headset
With Angel's POV.
>ywn be actually raped by Valentino
Why live
Stop shooting blue beans at your computer and maybe it will work.
the only bean i have is this.
Don't stab the bean with needles plox.
No, stab harder
he is no longer a bean, i unswaddled him.
Did the vees ever have a threesome?
Velvette would never go for it. I have no idea if sex is even something Vox does.
He and Val are a couple. Supposedly. Vox clearly isn't into it though.
The way Velvette talked about them seemed to hint that, but I thought maybe she was making fun of them for Val acting like a princess Vox has to go and save from himself. Knowing this show though, the most literal interpretation possible is probably correct. It doesn't really add anything to their relationship since Vox treats Val like some brat he has to babysit.
What is Hazbin Hotel called in moon runes?
I want to check to see if anon is right about it trending.
>ハズビン for "Hazbin" should be sufficient when searching
It moved up one spot to 6 after this screenshot was taken
Did anyone else find the songs besides poison to be totally uncatchy?
'Stayed gone' or whatever it is officially called was good and I'll fight on that hill
I liked them all so far. Vaggie and Camilla's duet was the only one that was meh, but it wasn't so bad I'd skip.
Personally, I enjoyed Alastor & Vox's song.
Velvet's song is a bit short, but pretty good, mainly because she's an absolute b***h.
Poison is probably my second least favorite.
Think of how many people are going to decide to use the poison scene as their first Tag:Furry/Yaoi/BDSM/Rape+Mindbreak goon sesh material.
Like Loona, This will convert MILLIONS....
Finally seeing the scene everyone the Twitter gays blew it out of proportion but to say it wasn’t exploitive and fetish bait was a lie.
Yeah I'm sure Viv cares an awful lot for the wellbeing of the poor "sex workers" and rape victims like she claims and acts like she "relates" to.
Women love their rape fantasies.
I'm sure the sex workers and rape victims are really affected by the cartoon spider bawd.
most of the are too high on tranq to watch cartoons
The giant furry in the meeting feels like someone's OC. Like even more so than all the other furries somehow.
where's the mega for ep 1 and 2?
we need a mega for all 4 episodes pronto!
>Make a scene that's supposedly meant to be Angel getting RAPED.
>Has him doing literal ahegao faces and showing him slobbering and moaning and cumming as he jolts back and forth from being fricked.
Did we just get an actual scene of Mindbreak on an Amazon Prime show?
Woman moment, like that one tweet from last thread about developing fetishes after getting sexually assaulted
Hazbin is a womanly show
I can't even identify where the rape happens. I guess being contractually obligated to frick is just a perpetual rape. The content I could actually see being alarming was Angel getting smacked around.
The scene is based almost 1-1 on the storyboarder [Raph's] un-official fan-comics and animatics [which Vivzie said she loved and liked on twitter] which she herself tagged with 'Rape/NonCon' and 'Mindbreak' like it was some sort of explicit AO3 fanfiction.
So yes, It's obvious fetish-bait.
Even the constant allusion to 'leashes', With Husk saying that he's 'leashed' by Alastor is part of her fetish, Because she made and sold pins showing Angel and Husk leashed by their 'masters'
AD is broken so he throws himself into self-destructive hardcore sex and drugs, not caring what happens to him.
It's probably how he ended up selling his soul to Val in the first place
Aww man! I agree!
We need to give Viv a break.
Is she going to be the Hazbin version of Loona?
Any good fanart of her been made yet?
Not too much sadly
So why did a scene b***h ended up being a hotshot overlord?
>Is she going to be the Hazbin version of Loona?
There was somebody else for it...
>IT'S OVER.
It's not good, wtf are you smoking?
>Barely any Vox past episode 2 besides small cameos
I'm going to need this rectified by next week
>Barely any Vox past episode 2
Please understand, being the tard wrangler of the other two Vees is a full time job.
I end up liking this girl.
Now I want to frick her.
Understandable
Same. She didn't make much of an impression on me in her first appearance, but her sassy brat routine really made me want to correct her.
You and me both.
Smug tiny b***h is asking for it.
>will never get told to behave by vox
Frick.
So the red jizz/spit/whatever on Vox, Val and Angel Dust's mouth in this song suppose to represent theyall partook in the same thing?
OBVIOUSLY the demon to the right doesn't have this and isn't color-coded like them either.
So is it just more confirmation of the Red Smoke/Raph rape fic? Like Vox AND Val just regularly gangbang AD when he's bad or some shit?
Vox seems somewhat annoyed or maybe uncomfortable seeing AD after that but Val just stares.
Vox knows who Angel is by name in episode 2, but it's not that worried about him quitting, so maybe.
Im sure it's not worried about AD quitting.
It's probably not Vox feeling guilt about gang-banging AD with Val (again IMPLIED from the Raph rape-comic this whole episode was inspired by)
So it must be some BS like Vox is stupidly in love with Val but Val wants to frick AD more than Vox. So the only way that Vox can get Val dick is by threesome rape with AD.
Like a jealous competition shit
It's very moronic, but very much in Vivzie's wheelhouse of shitty writing to do.
I hope we get a containment board if the show is successful. I hate how it’s getting spammed so much it reminds of the horse program. I just…don’t care about this show. Let the catalog breathe again, I beg of you. I’m just so sick of seeing this deviant art fetish show everywhere, please make it stop.
Oh frick off, this is not even CLOSE to the levels of autism of mlp, tough it up you crybaby
anyone who thinks this comes close to what peak bronys was like is outing themselves as a giant newbie. The show literally just got released. You’re gonna see it in the catalogue my dude
Why is everyone gay?
It's hell
What the actual frick is up with Val's voice? It sounds fricking moronic, what were they thinking?
How come Charlie, the princess of hell, could not control the fire she started at the porn studio
(like she’s a magic demon you’d think fire powers would be her forte) but seemingly scared of the fire as if it could hurt her?
This girl clearly has been sheltered HARD for her entire life, she probably never had to know how to properly control her powers
Sometimes it’s the simplest answers I suppose
Fair. Perhaps she’s just too big of a spaz when she gets panicky
Same reason she was scared of the things in episode 1, she's stupid and autistic. Pat attention
We don't know the extent of Charlie's powers beyond transformation. And she seemed less scared of the fire and more concerned about fricking up the set. She immediately tries putting it out.
So when does this become the fabled female-focused show? When the Rosie/Lilith/Eve twist is revealed in S2E7?
From Best Girl to Bester Girl.
>They made the snake gay
Those bastards
>There's only one straight person in hell
What did they mean by this?
Charlastor is coming. Prepare yourself. Charlie is ready for marriage, and her womb for Chadlastor.
How would Cinemaphile write Hazbin Hotel?
Less gay and more of the female characters undressing.
Definitely a better and more autistic cosmology and worldbuilding.
Ghost Stories English Dub
If you know, you know
>A shitpost joke dub of bored actors and translators just racing to see who gets first dibs on voicing the most obscene, moronic shit they can think of is better than literally every "professional" localization in existence
Nothing personal, Sag-aftra
Why did the Japanese not like Ghost Stories? was it really as dull or even duller than Naruto's writing?
Beats me, there's a lot of misinformation about what happened to Ghost stories online unfortunately. But the end result is inarguably improved.
Wonder if Japan ever did that to an American show, take something relatively normal and just parody the frick out of it to make something glorious.
Episode 4 was the best so far, my only complaint is that it feels out of character for Vaggie to let Charlie go alone to the pimp tower. Which she would be right to.
>A porn director is a better embodiment of lust than the actual embodiment of lust
yes. Ozzie is a fraud and needs to be murdered.
Ozzie is a pathetic excuse of a sin that grew too soft!
FINALLY getting Canon-nudity in a truly unrestricted R-rated Viv cartoon only for the reveal that Vivzieverse anthros have Barbie doll null anatomy (as seen in episode 4) was quite the shock. I'll try to finish it some point over the weekend, here's a sketch of a joke to tide things over https://files.catbox.moe/dj9svs.png
Loona has nothing under her fur. It's just blank.
She's hellborn not a sinner.
vivzie character anatomy. It's still true. There's nothing down there
So how do they have sex then? They have the means to get away with it as a studio no since there's no Youtube censorship, AND dicks/veganas very much exist in there universe as shown by Asmodeus's sex toy factory and dick statues. Is it part of the curse of being in hell? People just smash crotches together and pretend they're fricking? Do only Imps have genitals, and everybody else is null?
I’m convinced someone stepped in and said you can’t show any actual nips or genitals because Americans have a weird hang ups on sex. Naughty bits in cartoons are only suppose to be funny not sexy. Once it becomes sexy that’s something only weird people like
It's so STUPID
I genuinely can't remember the last time an actual American cartoon had naked breasts since Ms Chokesondick from South park, and those were NOT drawn with the intent of arousal
You'd be a million times more cutting edge and provocative than any swears or satan shit if you just drew a sexy lady nipple or pussy slit, it's so fricking stupid.
This was the ONE thing I was hoping streaming exclusivity would do for this series, ACTUALLY let them cut loose yet they still have the dumbest hangups
That one dog doesn't even have an ass crack. That's a bit extreme.
Can’t shit in hell. Just how it goes.
>Everyone actually IS canonically a Barbie or a Ken doll.
>So the sinner-demons cope by constantly mind-jerking to either hellborn succubae, the few humanoid looking sinner-demons amongst them or furry ones who also seem to have human like sexual features.
>Everything...EVERYTHING we see in the Poison video and other scenes of Angels dust is LITERAL acting [As in a 'porno' where the 'pornstars' can only PRETEND to have sex] and camera tricks.
>Val is still hitting him or whatever but all the sexual shit he seems to do to Angel is just humilation.
You're thinking too much into this. It's only barred from full nudity for other reasons
-Amazon/A24 wouldn't let them for executive reasons
-Animation studio had a strict no sexualized nudity
-Vivzie is the type of fujo who read censored yaoi mags where the dicks, butthole and balls are just erased/white out and are ambiguous shapes
No genitals, but can show angel dust getting his legs spread apart, getting fricked in multople positions, or show a porno lead up to analingus?
They managed to get it into The Boys, but I guess that show was very VERY upfront about not being for under 18 at all. Cartoons will always have issues because people are dumb.
I'm genuinely curious if we'll see an influx of smooth nude Loona art or hellhounds in general going forward because of this
LEL
Hopefully it'll be a fluke. If they null women I will be very very dissapointed.
Does it do "Heaven bad. Hell good. We don't need redemption?" or is the writing actually good?
We don't know yet, the main angel dude is an obnoxious butthole, but he was playing it up.
And Hell definitely sucks balls
WHERE ARE THE LINKS?
Torrent it, dummy.
I don't like the switch from high energy memerock songs in the pilot to Broadway musical vanilla in the show.
I don't even care about that israelitetube guy who voiced the eggs in the pilot but it feels wrong getting rid of him. I don't really remember any of the other voices though
It still has the same schizophrenic story development of Helluva, things only just barely make any sense at all, from the worldbuilding (or total lack of) to the minute to minute plot
Demons swearing constantly like it's a normal thing could absolutely work, like how The Onion did it for their future news post-apocalypse segment many years ago, but it's written just so... amateurishly, she clearly doesn't have a writer's mind or any editors making shit good
Am I the only one who would pic related
Of course not, she's hot. My junk would look tiny in her big meaty mitts however.
Nah, would with both of them. Preferrably at the same time.
KISS
If only they had leaned in just a bit closer.
Would her AND her daughters. At the same time.
The black demons original design was way cuter and appealing
True, both her and Carmilla looked better in the pilot
I think her look in the show is pretty good, it's just her bizarre outfit that bothers me. That shirt is just awful and I hope she has a wardrobe change whenever she shows up again
I have a question: Since Carmilla is an ancient overlord (aka way older than Alastor and Sir Pentious) and assuming she had the girls when she was alive, how did she manage to have one black daughter and one white when interracial relationships were a big no-no? unless some gringo colonizer tapped that and called it quits?
Things being a big no-no doesn't mean they don't happen. That's why hell is even a thing.
That hairstyle is quite ugly. She looked slightly better in the pilot.
Still would, even with her downgraded hairstyle
She was so much better in the pilot.
i wonder if the seven deadly sins are gonna show up in hazbin hotel seeing as they're the topdogs below lucifer. maybe satan and leviathan since they haven't appeared in helluva boss.
>4 years, Literally into the millions of dollars, Hundreds of people being organised up and down the chains, Press conferences, Interviews, negotiations with studios - And what was it all for?
>So Viv could actualize her PhysicalAbuse/Yaoi/Mindbreak/Rape fetish in front of the entire planet, And have Angel Dust getting beat up by his pimp, crying for mercy, and then being pressured into taking 20 dicks at once while ahegao'ing and making cum faces while sucking even more dick.
>All in majestic 4K, With full voice-acting and even a pop-song overlaid over the later half of the ordeal.
>All of this, To fulfil a single 2010's Tumblr Fujoshi's animated rape fantasy....
She won....
But angel is ugly
What is Niffty's deal and will she get her own focus episode.
She likes killing insects and is looking for a bad boy to spank her
She probably made a deal with Alastor just to be enslaved. That probably amuses him enough to keep her around and let her climb all over him like a little monkey.
It's just censorship morons like how in anime magical girl transformations have no nipples
Magical girl shows aim for the audience of elementary to middle school students and air on daytime television, they don't have paywalled restriction, show people blowing up with organs and blood everywhere in horrific fashion, or say "frick c**t shit b***h" every other word. Not even remotely comparable, they're just being too pussy to draw pussies.
Would he save Hazbin/Helluva's "comedy"?
>Aw Geez Vaggie this worse than that time Hazbin Hotel replaced its original voice cast
Where furry coombait?
If you have nudity in a cartoon it will scar an American for life.
I like recognizing recurring background characters, it's fun
If Charlie theoretically unlocked her Chakra's and the eight gates or whatever does she as Lucifer's daughter have the ability to perma-kill someone?
Angel probably just prolonged his own suffering by not allowing Charlie to go full demonic magical girl when she saw him being thrown and turning the entire room to stone or smth.
It’s kind of weird how casual everyone acts towards Charlie. Like they lampshade this be saying it’s because she doesn’t want to use her position to strong arm people, but you’d think people would still be fearful of her and her family just by being the rulers of hell.
I imagine it's because the other demons aren't the brightest bulbs + view her attempts at reformation as showing extreme weakness (remember how she got laughed at in the Pilot), which makes me hope we eventually see her lose her shit at some point further down the line.
>Lilith is missing
>Lucifer is who knows where, probably dealing with higher up work
>His naive, do-gooder daughter is making a total fool of herself trying to redeem lost sinners
It's weird but that's probably the point. Nobody thinks she amounts to anything besides her family name. And it sounds like she's never actually expressed her full power before.
I think she could, after all, the holy energy of the angelic weapons and the angels itself should be more or less the same if not equal
I wonder what the consequences of Charlie laying Val right then and there would have been. She's viewed as harmless but that would probably make her a target.
>Instead of being dissuaded into leaving by Angel crying and screaming at her Charlie yells back how she won't go / wants to help him one more time
>Pisses Val off enough that he smacks Angel up or tries to grab at Charlie.
>Charlie instantly seems to suddenly grow taller and throws Val against the wall by the neck like she's Itachi telling Sasuke he isn't strong enough.
>"W...What?"
>*CRACK* *Val's body glitters away into soul-dust or smth*
>Entire room except Angel drops everything their doing, gasps and starts running away
>Charlie starts 'turning back to normal' and curls down on the ground like she's exhausted.
I'm sure she'd whip up the flames she accidentally started and everyone would freak out and book it while she seethed and burned down the studio. I seriously doubt Val would stick around for a fight and would get the other V's to run a smear campaign on the hotel to save face.
Could also have scared Angel off if she accidentally hurts him when he tries to stop her.
So Crymini + Baxter are confirmed cut from the show?
Whom'st'd've?
Baxter made a cameo in episode 2, the furry hasn't been seen yet though
Actually hyena b***h was a cameo in the pilot
But to be honest Sir Pentious seems like he basically replaced Baxter in his niche. No room for him anymore
Main characters which were not in the pilot but prominent in design documents for the show
Yeah they're gone
Alastor with the Egg Bois was somehow cooler than it had any right to be. I kek'd at the 'names' joke.
I like this green horned demon girl. she's cute. any background characters caught your attention?
The octopus bartender is my favorite, besides that though not alot of the designs have really grabbed me so far. I think the ones in the pilot were much more fun and varied in retrospect
that is a pretty funny design.
I like these guys and their daughters.
Is he really the father or they're just having (as twitter zoomers say it nowadays) a situationship?
I think some sort of past/secret fling. The girls refer to him by his name rather as "dad" or "father"
So I assume because he's a sad gay spider in Hell now the show is just going to ignore how as a member of the mafia human Angel assuredly murdered many innocent people and any "redeeming" he does at the hotel will just involve him being less rude and quitting drugs?
I mean if they're innocent then they get to chill in heaven while he's stuck in eternal homosexual mcnasty circle so....
But anon, you forget Heaven is actually le bad in this show
>Place is a horrible oppressive shithole because you're all definitely better than us and you should feel guilty for even associating with it
>but also, frick you if you exclude any of us literal demons and double frick you if you want to keep us from moving in and overcrowding the place you live in
What did Vivienne mean by this
You been listening to me? Hell? No. We're soldiers, soldiers don't go to hell. It's war. Soldiers, they kill other soldiers. We're in a situation where everybody involved knows the stakes, and if you're gonna accept those stakes, you gotta do certain things. It's business - we're soldiers. We follow codes, orders.
can someone make a gif of this scene? I need it for reasons
If you pay me 50k sure
Something feels off about the way they introduced Carmine and revealed she killed the angel. It feels like Act I of a story rather than a story in itself. We didn't even get a chance to see her interact with her daughters in a meaningful way. Before she starts singing about saving them, they don't even register as daughters but as like her assistants or something.
>Quote to go before the start of Episode 4
>“In order to know virtue, we must acquaint ourselves with vice. Only then can we know the true measure of a man.”
Surprisingly looking forward to the next two episodes, but this really feels like something that can’t be wrapped up in 4 more episodes. Are they aiming for more seasons? And if they are can we get them in under two years?
>Are they aiming for more seasons?
Yes, Viv said that to tell the story she wants to tell she'll need 4 seasons, So if you want any actual resolution to the plot, We must pray it gets at least 2 more renewals [Since amazon gave her a second season for free right out the gate]
>And if they are can we get them in under two years?
Well it could always become a RWBY level show killing production clusterfrick or everyone whose a wagie in the entertainment industry will go on strike again for like 3 months.
Well frick if Bojack Horsewords can do six seasons of the same premise I hope Amazon lets her finish the show. I’m not the target demographic for this and I thought it was pretty good.
Season 2 cumming, no idea when.
Uhm...so wait they're all circus perfor-what the frick is the aesthetic shit going on in this show?
The aesthetic they’re going for is clown orgy
This is HH thread, HB is down the street behind the corner.
Bro the hotel has a circus theme. This is totally involved with the lore of HH.
The sins themselves have the circus aesthetic. Lucifer is the ringleader, Asmodeus is a stage magician, Beelzebub is the animal tamer, and Mammon is the clown
i think i might go to bed.
Goodnight baby
Sweet dreams
Chu
Season is pretty solidly okay so far. It really feels like they're trying to hard with the musical angle, these grand sweeping disney songs just come out of nowhere and feel way too grandiose for what they are. I especially felt this in the moment the war girl was waxing poetic about not wanting to start a war. That would have worked so much better as a quiet moment than the actor belting their lungs out. Side note but Nifty feels a bit too forced with her gremlin energy. Her pilot incarnation got the point across without going too overboard. I think they need to have her interact normally a little more... Like, at least once. Similar to Alastor pulling the wacky scary faces, they take every possible opportunity to do it and it completely undercuts it, there's no sense of restraint in anything.
Also, Keith david voicing the manlet cat with the over complicated design feels WEIRD. His voice doesn't fit at all but he had the best song and it's not even close.
>no sense in restraint
Yeah that's Vivzie for you
Keith David should have been Valentino, Not the fricking cat.
I've gotta be honest I thought Husk's original voice was awful. Keith mae me actually like him
...holy shit you're right.
>"ANGEL! NOW! I WON'T BE ASKING AGAIN HOE!"
Black pimps are racist, anon.
s there a torrent up yet?
May take my headphones to work next week on Friday.
I was lucky to be off today, But i can just watch the new episodes when their out on my lunch break.
Husker would look ten times better without the wings
Does anyone else feel like it's almost always too zoomed in, like a quarter of the screen has been shaved off the edges
Favorite song so far?
I know Losers is popular but frick me Velvette has an excellent singing voice
God damn it's actually shit.
>Val treating the princess of hell like she's some generic blonde girl
Oh look generic cartoon ignorance. Do real life people actually treat the daughter of a president like this? are they that mentally moronic that they don't understand they can get killed instantly or worse, tortured and dismembered for life?
>>Val treating the princess of hell like she's some generic blonde girl
>Oh look generic cartoon ignorance. Do real life people actually treat the daughter of a president like this? are they that mentally moronic that they don't understand they can get killed instantly or worse, tortured and dismembered for life?
Lucifer is basically Milhouse's Dad and is treated like a puppet-ruler with all the actual people who are influential like the Ars-Goetia, Deadly Sins and pit-boss Sinner overlords actually controlling everything.
So this entire criticism is moot.
Val has been shown to be a fricking moron + the weak link of the Vee's
Which is why Vox has to talk him out of unintentionally committing suicide
If anyone's moronic enough to pick a fight with something he can't win it's him. He's a stupid brute, nothing more
Anon, I don't think hells president actually does anything. Her position of power is purely lip service... Charlie could probably enforce her position with her own power of course but she won't and everyone knows that.
Have you been paying attention to the circus act that is trying to get at Hunter?
Okay but
SEXO
helluva boss became dogshit fujo drama and this show will follow suit
>Travis got promoted to being a porn flick director
I'm so proud of him...
He's come a long way.
We're not getting him, are we bros?
About that...
>hes in
>but he's a background character
ROBBED
I think it's likely he'll be a more important character later on down the line. Probably in Season 2 or Season 3.
Speaking of characters, how come St. Peter never got a card?
Pent's hood eyes close when he sleeps. Very cute.
He's going to be a surprise exterminator killer later isn't he?
Repostin here, cuz why not.
It's not bad, but it's not great either.
First, the good. The characters are mostly fun to watch, and their designs are on brand for Vivzie. The angel attack subplot is interesting, I want to see where it goes. The music is good. The animation, despite some errors, is actually pretty great. It's a solid show overall, I can see the effort.
Now, the bad stuff.
First of all, the worst part of this show is by far Charlie and Vaggie. Despite being the main leads, they're incredibly annoying. Charlie is way too saccharine, she's a Mary Sue who can do no wrong and has no faults other than the endearing ones. I get that it's partially intentional, but I just hate watching her whenever she's on screen. They went too far with her. Vaggie's main problem is her atrocious voice acting, nothing she says sounds convincing, and her entire character is not interesting at all.
Like I said, the angel subplot is actually interesting. Those overlord scenes in episode 3 were the first time I actually got invested in this show, and wanted to see more. But then the story cuts away from that back to the hotel, and I just wanted to go the frick back. The episodic nature of this show ruins this narrative somewhat, and it sucks that the more involved plot happens in the background.
The music is mostly good, but some numbers are way better than others, and some feel downright unnecessary.
The swearing is forced. Some of the f-bombs are clearly there to justify the adult rating.
Episode 4 is atrocious. I have no clue who wrote it, but it felt like a woman trying to write "cool male" dialogue and failing miserably. It's just a mess of Charlie acting like a braindead moron, Angel acting like a 16-year-old girl, and the bartender acting like both while pretending to be cool about it. Just awful.
And I didn't like Carmilla, I get that she's supposed to be a hypocrite, and I hope it'll be lampshaded later, but they could've put at least some nuance there.
Why do the overlords not have any fear of the extermination? Are they on good terms with heaven? If the point of extermination is to flex why only target the weak? Do the overlords not care that they can fight for a terriority and the next day it has no population and is worthless?
>is to flex
The only only reasons for purges that we know of is firstly to cull the population so they can't rise up against heaven and secondarily that at least one of the angels finds it fun to do so.
I'm sure the overlords don't care so much because they can use their power and influence to have a safe place from the exterminators. Maybe their own personal power makes them more trouble than they're worth? We don't have enough information about how the purges work. Do they have a quota to meet? A limited amount of time? We don't know.
>Do they have a quota to meet? A limited amount of time? We don't know.
isn't it like the purge and lasts for the full 24 hours of the day
If their goal is to prevent them from rising up against heaven the overlords should be the first target. They are the ones that could win a war.
Like I said, we don't know enough. Maybe their boss demands a certain amount of slaughter? If they spend their one day in hell chasing down a television CEO and let hundreds, thousands, millions(?) live then their boss is going to be pissed.
They're probably powerful/rich enough to survive the Exterminators to some extent with fortified bases, while the rest of the rabble have to scrounge up a good hiding spot and then fight over it with other sinners.
>What are you doing anon?
Oh hey Charlie. I was just sniffing the seat Niffty was sitting on earlier.
jacking off to pictures of you and Angel.
The worst part of Hazbin Hotel is, ironically, the parts about Hazbin Hotel.
>Charlie: Just a loser but without any charisma or self-reflection like in the pilot's opening song
>Vaggie: The one who reacts to things but without any funny or interesting reactions. Is supposed to be Charlie's knight but just comes off as annoying and pointless
>Alastar: Can't have drama because nothing challenges him and he doesn't value anyone or thing that could drama by him needing to protect it
>Nifty: Stands there and sometimes acts quirky
>Husk: Is supposed to be a relatable exhausted pessimist. Is just a guy that b***hes like a woman.
>Sir Pentious: Is supposed to be a funny villain that puts all his effort into everything and fails hilariously. Basically Dick Dastardly but with over the top villainy. Is just a crying women with the eggs as it's house cats
>Angel Dust: I feel like his character was assassinated. He's supposed to be like a rock star that is larger than life on stage but struggling behind stage. He's written like he's just a whiny common prostitute.
I don't get it, if the angels have no repercussions for killing demons, demons can't hurt them (or so they assumed), Hell being overpopulated is a problem for them, and they enjoy the process, why not just start an endless genocide? Just kill everything all at once. What's the holdup?
If they kill everything at once their fun is gone. They only moved up the next extermination because an angel died in the last one
More will come eventually, just exterminate all of it and then proceed to clean up the rest yearly.
But they get nothing of value from Hell.
>But they get nothing of value from Hell.
So they are just bullies on the level of the people who refuse to end a game and just want to spawn camp you?
It seems like hell is just a colony to heaven, like austraulia was basically prison island for the british empire.
And lucifor/overlords probably have no real power, they just govern whatever heaven doesn't care about running. It almost seems like hell should just be there to extract wealth like a real colony.
Getting some more plot in Episode 3, Alastor and the eggs and the Sinner-Demon Capo meeting was nice.
They DIDN'T need to have these women 'sing' their argument at each other and have one of them 'sing' their confession of killing the angel though.
I actually liked the sing song argument. If only because they each sung in completely different styles and it livened it up a bit. It actually felt like a natural place for a song unlike a lot of the ones in the show. The confession was extremely forced though because the actress went way too hard on it making what was supposed to be a quiet talk with her closest this loud, dramatic confession.
>They DIDN'T need to have these women 'sing' their argument at each other and have one of them 'sing' their confession of killing the angel though.
Amen. Comes in so unnaturally and is so bad they might as well have been singing their shopping list. Musically unremarkable.
My biggest problem with the last two episodes is even remembering what happened, and I've seen both of them twice. Not even kidding, in vidya terms it feels like walking around and meeting people to put a team together, and fight a couple of nothingburger battles together, and also go on an Angel sidequest. But it's a otherwise a pretty unimaginative journey from A to B.
The dead angel thing seems like horrible writing.
>have thousands of wars
>enemy is so strong you can't even kill one
>manage to kill one
>"We are now on equal footing with them"
I know we dont have all the info but acting on what we do have it killed the entire scene. I get the impression heaven could whipe out all the overlords+sinners+hellborn+lucifer+prime sins with ease. They humilate the strongest person in hell, lucifor, by sending a hologram as if he isn't even worthy of being in the presence.
Everyone must know that their king is treated liek this.
A lot of things sound dumb and don't make sense in HH's hell, especially since Viv is too much of a pussy to even mention God or the archangels. I'm still hoping that Charlie's little storybook is just cope her parents made up and didn't mention the whole rebellion against heaven and Lucifer getting low diffed by Michael, but knowing Viv it seems like this is the ACTUAL truth and it's not just Charlie's parents lying to her.
Also why can't sinners leave the Pride ring? Literally what is the point of the other rings if sinners can't even suffer in them?
The thing that really bothered me with the songs is that all the characters treat the songs as if the characters are actually singing them. It's not an extrapolation for the audience, they REALLY are breaking into song.
Which makes it fricking weird when other characters do it for no reason and the other characters don't bat an eye.
I've forgiven it already because the "They're just out here fricking singing!" gag from episode 4 is probably the show's funniest joke so far
Also the giant Fursona Tumblr wolf and the rest of the Overlords like Alastor and Rosie not moving at all while the brat did her dumb song. And when Carmilla ordered everyone out of the room being like 'But we just started the meeting 5 minutes ago?'
Eh, they already made that joke before so it lost a bit of its impact. It still niggles me though, were the overlords actually singing at each other? Did she actually sing her confession? Does nobody find that weird?
Maybe it's just accepted practice in hell? Or maybe the TRUE eternal punishment is being forced to live in a musical forever.
>Leave these 'overlords' to me!
Too many sinners, not enough Hellborn. I think I saw a couple background imps and maybe like one hellhound
Maybe it's just me but I thought the songs in the first two episodes we're much better than the others. Poison was the only one I kinda liked in 3 and 4.
How can you hate loser, baby?
Not him but I felt like that was the nail in the coffin for me respecting Husk and Angel Dust. In the pilot it seemed like they were miserable the way an adult man is. Now they are miserable like 14 year old girls.
Why Viv steal character design from Skibidi Toilet tho?
Most of the voices are good for singing, but when speaking range from mediocre to ok to sounding really jarring compared to the pilot. Vaggie being fricking awful both when singing and speaking. Her voice actress sounds like she has a cold and her emotional range is nonexistent. Alastor's new VA sounds like a fricking nerd without the radio effects so thank god he has them on majority of the time.
I genuinely don't like the show.
I would describe watching it as a frustrating experience.
I spend a lot of time watching good media (mostly anime-- some reccs are Kaiba, Tree of Palme, Spirited Away), so I don't feel as easily wow'd by quickly moving colors and lights.
This is a show with interesting designs and an interesting setting being given painfully flat characters and dialogue.
It begs for 14-year-olds to be hyped over it, so it puts all its efforts into design rather than anything serious. It's a hollow piece, like biting into zero-calorie cake.
The young audience following it around despite everything shitty about it reminds me of an obnoxious Twitch streamer chat like for Vaush. lol despite him being a shitty person you just get drowned out by diehard fans and so he doesn't feel the need to take any criticism and change into someone better.
anyway, my sincere rating is a 3 out of 10, with the animation being the main thing giving it any value at all.
The funniest part about this post is that you sound just as young as the people you dislike
that just comes off like you're upset that I didn't like it, but okay.
Look at it this way, we get to laugh at each other
It’s shit.
Was I supposed to side with Charlie on this?
b***h barged onto the set, disrupted Vals work and is in general a entitled b***h.
>pls let the gay spider out of work sooner so he can loiter around in my homotel more1!11!
Val was righ about everything and did nothing wrong.
I think it's intentional to show just how out of touch Charlie is, and how savage Val is.
It’s okay because he’s a rapist
>Val was righ about everything and did nothing wrong
Then he should have had these two frick angel instead of those... Things.