>god is... LE DEAD
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reminder he was a staunch opponent of anti semitism
He simply pointed out israeli focused ambition as a quality to be emulated-- which it is. Instead of complaining, outdoing them and transceding average expectations.
In an 1889 letter to Franz and Ida Overbeck:
I am just having all anti-Semites shot.
Zoomers will destroy everything that was once considered art, culture and beauty and replace with nothing, just as he predicted, then out of the ashes the übermensch will arise
millennials already replaced everything meaningful with capeshit and trannies though
I am an übermensch, ask me anything
what’s your tax policy
How am babby formed?
Haven't heard that one in a while.
What value have you created for your race/family/country?
Nietzsche didn’t care about any of those things except maybe race depending on your interpretation of him. He wanted a global aristocracy.
>Nietzsche didn’t care about any of those things
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Individualism in Nietzsche isn't an end in itself.
Seethe
Not at all. I'm telling you, objectively, that you are yet another shallow Nietzsche tourist who read an aphorism or two and you need to do much better because you're ignorant in the subject.
Cope
Ironically, "coping" is the most anti-Nietzsche concept possible, The fact that you try to resort to it simply reinforces what I said above-- read more because you're not even remotely qualified to talk about his thoughts.
Holy seethe
Again, a contradiction in terms: holiness and seething are antithetical. You see how little you know? It's not surprise you have no real counterarguments.
Explain how you’re not coping
By telling you (or whoever wrote that) that the idea that Nietzsche advocated simpleton individualism is completely absurd and entry level.
True. In that sense, Nietzsche and others warned against not wasting too much time with the uneducated, but I guess it serves an educational purposes for whoever reads my comments.
Wrong. In fact, attempts to make Nietzsche one-dimensional amount to slave morality resentment because it tries to box him into a random "safe" moral or immoral category.
He was neither, he was very passionate and believed in the higher values of culture and the tribe, even if they were revealed at the cost of conflict and alienating many others.
> Very strange how you would come to the conclusion that's what he meant by Ubermensch
I didn't say anything about the Übermensch concept.
My seethes
>Wrong
But you didn't "disprove" anything... You just pretended you never meant to attach racist and nationalistic connotations to his work. In fact, you said a lot of nothing. Are you ESL?
SHUT UP I AM NOT ESL NIETZSCHE WAS BASED NATSOC LIKE ME YWNBAW
Sure I did. You said
>Nietzsche literally did not care about any of those things
I corrected you (or whoever it was):
>he was very passionate and believed in the higher values of culture and the tribe
For specific references, Beyond Good and Evil is the best but not only source.
>racist and nationalistic connotations
Nietzsche always made it a point to highlight what is in fact one of the most obvious truths since time began: races DO NOT HAVE THE SAME WORTH. Sometimes he did this by belittling his own (he was a fierce critic of Germany) and encouraging it to be bolder, harder, tougher.
If you cling to relativistic views that all races are equal, everybody has the same worth and nations don't matter you are a literal subhuman according to Nietzsche.
Are you sure you read Nietzsche and not Wagner?
He wasn't exposed to either. Nietzsche hated Germany and the German identity, he didn't criticize it. He saw them as moral weaklings that, in a Goebbelsian way, cry out as they strike you. Wagner was a deep romanticist that envisioned a world of universal peace and love.
>Wagner was a deep romanticist that envisioned a world of universal peace and love.
I thought he was an antisemite and nationalist?
"No!"
Like Neech, he struggled with the problem of Nazis liking his work.
I remember you and your "Neech" comments from another thread. Talk about Eternal Return.
Nietzsche died in 1900, Wagner 17 years earlier.
The National Socialist sympathizers were their sister and 2nd wife respectively, both of which outlived them by decades.
Oh, I read somewhere that Nietzsche’s fervent anti-anti-semitism and anti-nationalism came directly from a reaction to Wagner as an attempt to individuate himself from him. Same with his anti-Schopenhauer stance.
> Nietzsche hated Germany
He criticized it and loved other aspects of it, which he'd like to see expressed in a type of European unit. For instance, the called Beethoven the "Exception-German", as in: the artist that exemplified Germany's most elevated aspects.
He was very precise when telling German values apart from the Germany of his time (which he found too narrowminded) and some of his German contemporaries. If anything, I'd say he expressed tough love for Germany.
Holy cope
Here's another concise remedial lesson for your much-needed education:
>I am perhaps more German than modern Germans
Nietzsche was a polish aristocrat
He was more like trans-Polish, there's no evidence he was Polish even several generations back.
>trans-Polish
Yes
Understanding what he meant by that is a litmus test:
>Germany is a great nation only because its people have so much Polish blood in their veins.
He was being cheeky because his family held the belief that they descended from Polish aristocracy.
What he means is: what best encapsulates Germany is people like myself and my works. He bore a grudge against the German intelligentsia of his time since he 1st started writing; his early, strangely brutal text against David Strauss already shows that.
At the same time, keep in mind he volunteered to risk his life fighting for Germany during the Franco-Prussian war-- he became a medical assistant on the front because he was considered too physically weak to fight, but it was quite the ordeal nevertheless.
What did he mean by this?
>I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood. When I look for my diametric opposite, an immeasurably shabby instinct, I always think of my mother and sister, — it would blaspheme my divinity to think I am related to this sort of canaille.
Rhetoric. That's from Ecce Homo, when his mind was starting to waver.
None of his biographers seem to have found relevant sources for his family's Polish claims.
That's precisely the opposite. Nietzsche distanced himself from Wagner because Wagner became more focused on compassion (Mitleid) etc. Neither of them were technically "wrong" but their worldviews grew apart.
You're arguing with someone over a subject that is literally beyond his capability to understand. It's a waste of both of your time but you at least should be smart enough to realize that
Wasn't he a an ethnic German who was a czechboo for some reason?
Who cares he's an autistic homosexual.
Nietzsche literally did not care about any of those things. Replace race, family, and country with humankind & culture as a whole and you would be correct. Very strange how you would come to the conclusion that's what he meant by Ubermensch. Ironic to accuse someone else of having a shallow understanding of his work.
How do I get a good gf
Get a Black one
should I take an offer from duckduckgo? the pay is almost 2x but the company and their culture is gay as frick
Why have you not delivered us from the terror of the Last Man?
There won't be anything left, zoomers are the last men
Seems transphobic.
He is definitely one of the people who should have been killed in order to save Western civilization. The rest are Freud, Marx, Kant.
for me it’s descartes, thomas paine and john stuart mill
have a nice day
seethe utilitarian homosexual
>Not just killing Martin Luther
It solves all your problems lol
That can't be real. This technology is getting fricking amazing...... Soon I will be able to write storyboards and make graphic novels without any drawing talent.
>DWARFMAN
>A midget denied his growth
How about just
Dwarfman
A man denied his growth
Putting the midget in there just kind of seems redundant.
Sounds like midge cope to me
Can anon tell me what this search url or app is? I won't tell anyone else. Secret dies with me.
>Kant
Literally saved the west from going full moron scientism in the 18th century with his epistemology.
>save Western civilization
No other thinker has defended Western civilization as much as Nietzsche
>Kant.
90% sure you actually meant Hegel
Nietzsche would be the one responsible for saving western civilization if people actually listened to what he said. Also:
>Kant
You're a fricking moron.
"Smart" people cannot comprehend things outside of the human experience
and (You) are dead to God.
reminder that both the people who praise this quote and those who hate it take it out of context and it means the complete opposite of what they think it means
That happens a suprising amount. Like 'blood is thicker than water'. It's supposed to be blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb. Maybe it's proof people that rely on catchy canned phrases to argue their points are dishonest morons.
another one is "pick yourself up from the bootstraps" which was an absurdist expression meaning "do the impossible" because it's literally impossible to pick yourself up from your bootstraps
>Zoomers reading Twitter "AKSHUALLY THIS MEANS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT EVERYONE THINKS IT DOES THAT CONVENIENTLY FITS MY AGENDA" posts and taking them as gospel
got it from reading 20th century German literature but nice try
Weird. I guess you should have read 12th century German literature so you wouldn't be shown to be a fricking moron taken in by morons who can't cite their "WELL AKSHUALLY" claims.
https://symbolismandmetaphor.com/blood-is-thicker-than-water-origins/
I didn't post the blood is thicker than water one moron I posted the bootstraps one.
What shit?
Also
"God is dead and we killed him"
is satire by him.
He's mocking jaded nihilistic ass clowns with their pseudo intellectual bullshit.
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"god is dead and we killed him" is part of a story that is told about a ranting homeless guy who screams this out a random people like an insane jackass. Nietzche is satirizing those kind of people.
Benjamin franklin does the same thing with "these people are white only, so we need to kill everyone cut down all the trees so the venus space aliens can see how white earth is"
or a more recent example is stephen colbert doing his fake conservative thing on the daily show.
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It's nietzche making fun of most people in this thread in fact.
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>neecha cuck
Hegel BVLL present
Let the breaking commence
It's satire?
I thought it was him commenting on how though society has largely abandoned religion as its driving motivator, we can still find meaning in our lives to push ourselves forwards
It's literally from "the madman". He's mocking catastrophizing psuedointellectuals.
The old version of god evolving is his actual point. That's all. Humanity will always strive to understand the universe. God, math whatever you want to call it some sort of universal force will always exist we will look for. It's just another step in mankinds thought process. so no "god is not dead" it's just god is evolving and he's just making fun of the "god is dead" jackasses. You know "sky is falling" "america is collapsing" that kind of bullshittery.
You are pretty right on. Any arguments against this would be hair splitting. Thirdies always frick up this quote then write walls of text. I hate this place.
>Source: Dude trust me
It wasn’t a satirical statement. Moreover, the commentary in your second post reads like you take way too much LSD.
He's right. It's literally a homeless street beggar ranting about how god is dead. That's satire. I think autist can't pick up sarcasm or humor in others. So they are stuck in either pure jaded sarcasm or no humor what so ever mode.
Try getting laid.
Nah, he be alluding to Socrates and Diogenes and the like, who appeared to be as mad men during a time that didn't understand them, something that Nietzsche's Zarathustra is painfully aware of.
But keep up the Christ cope reading of it, wouldn't be the first.
not him but didn’t neetch seethe to high hell at socrates and plato because they’re too religious or whatever?
They derived their knowledge from spiritual instinct. It makes him seethe and he will never be 1/10 as profound.
I'd say "seethe" would be going to far, seeing how he devoted much of his life becoming even more knowledgeable on Greek philosophy than the Bible when he was studying for the priesthood. He was overall more interested in western tradition of his era and beyond moving past its stranglehold on culture and tradition, so he critiqued them mercilessly, but not as much as the Abrahamic faiths which he saw as a slave morality devolution instead of something that managed to surpass it. It's also worth noting that, while he loathed and derided Slave Morality, he wasn't a fan of Master Morality either, but he didn't live to elaborate on his distaste of the later in as much detail. His Übermensch would have rejected/moved past both the Greeks and the disciples of Abraham.
While he never elaborated, you can intuit his opposition from his views on Germs, Poles, and israelites. He saw more virtue in the latter two's passion than the former's power. Master morality is all about defense of the status quo, not embracing change. Master morality becomes a different kind of slave morality.
Exactly. Slave Morality is simply a reactionary position towards the conservative powers that held the downtrodden masses in bondage, born of envy and lack of ability to move on. Instead of the gods of old, there arises a master god that polices its flock like a slave owner once did. But a system that creates such a damaging reaction is obviously brutish and flawed.
Nietzsche was no brute, a society which couldn't handle israelites without devolving into barbarism was obviously petty and week in his mind. Spiting his former crush and mentor Wagner most likely also played a part of his defense of israelites, as did his admiration for Napoleon. He probably would have critiqued them and their beliefs in more detail had they not been an oppressed minority group during a time when antisemitism was the default modus operandi in Europe, progroms and all.
>a society which couldn't handle israelites without devolving into barbarism was obviously petty and week in his mind.
He's assuming that the israelites themselves are not engaging in their own form of barbarism through debt enslavement and other assorted crimes and rackets. The problem with this guy is that he's clearly anti german so he cannot possibly even consider any argument against israelites. "it must be the germans fault!!!" is his default assumption and the only position he is willing to consider.
Usery was sinful according to the church, so israelites became the caste that handled coinage and monylending as a loophole. Keeping them second class citizens shrouded in conspiracy was also convenient as it directed all of the anger at them instead of the church when things went to shit. Since the time of Napoleon and right up until World War 2 with the rise of Nationalism, the average israelite wanted nothing more than to be viewed as European first, israelite second, but conspiratorial Lutherian nonsense such as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and lazy conservative convenience kept them from advancing beyond their tribalism, with the gas chambers as the dot that inspired the quasi-fascist state of Israel. But during Nietzsche's time, things weren't so settled, and there was still hope.
>Usery was sinful according to the church,
Not in Nietzches period and not for a couple hundred years before Nietzches.
>the average israelite wanted nothing more than to be viewed as European first, israelite second,
Press X to doubt before the nazis became big bad number 1 israeli intellectuals were endlessly seething about cossacks bullying them and using it as a rallying cry and bolstering their in group paranoia. Before that israeli intellectuals were talking about the inquisition, before that they were doing it with the romans, Haman etc. etc. etc. etc.
If you just believe everything the israelites tell you then you get to where we are right now. Total israeli control and look at modern America where israelites will tell you that "They want nothing more than to be American first israelites second" Yet run hundreds of israeli centered ethnic nepotism organizations and dozens of goyim policing organizations like the ADL and SPLC
>but conspiratorial Lutherian nonsense such as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Good to know that even israelites engage in and are ultimately motivated by schizo rambling about shadowy conspiracies.
>Not in Nietzches period and not for a couple hundred years before Nietzches.
Yet sentiments lingered and israelites kept to what they knew out of necessity.
>Nepotism
When you regularly face progroms and with few avenues of advancement, it pays to keep together. israelites had to be craftier than their Christian "betters" in order to make a nice life for themselves, and that furthered envy and superstition directed at them. Which is a shame, most of the young israelites that died for Napoleon or during World War 1 did so in fervent belief that their sacrifice would finally cement them as Europeans instead of the "other". The following horrors of World War 2 though just strengthened their tribalistic attitude, so Hitler and his ilk are the ones to blame if you envy and fear their dogmatic ways. They took away the wrong lessons after the second World War, but who can blame them? In fact, they were enabled by the same tribalistic and nepotistic attitudes you can find amongst American and European Aristocracy then as you can find today.
>shadowy conspiracies.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a piece of nonsense propaganda cooked up by the Okhrana in 1903 (though it's influence can be traced much further in the past), and is one of the biggest reasons israelites never managed to integrate into western society during the 20th century and up until modern times. We wouldn't even be discussing the israelites if it wasn't for idiot lunatics such as Hitler taking it seriously, thus furthering the exclusivist tribal attitudes that gave rise to Zionism and such. Heck, this isn't a problem exclusive to israelites, I mean, what is an American? That nation is entirely lacking in national identity, you are never just an American, you're an "African American", a "Redneck", a "Jew", a "WASP", an "Irish Catholic", "Asian American" etc. first, which just furthers and escalates conflict and trite tribalism.
http://nietzsche.holtof.com/reader/friedrich-nietzsche/beyond-good-and-evil/aphorism-251-quote_4ec717fdb.html
Anti israeliness is stupidity
>When a people is suffering from nationalistic nervous fever and political ambition and wants to suffer, we have to accept the fact that various kinds of clouds and disturbances - in short, small attacks of dullness - will pass over its spirit: for example, among contemporary Germans sometimes the anti-French stupidity, sometimes the anti-israeli,
European nations are made up and unreal
>What we nowadays call a "nation" in Europe is essentially more a res facta [something made] than a res nata [something born] (indeed sometimes it looks confusingly like a res ficta et picta [something made up and unreal]- ), in any case something developing, young, easily adjusted, not yet a race, to say nothing of aere perennius [more enduring than bronze], as is the israeli type.
There is no israeli conspiracy to take over Europe
>That the israelites, if they wanted to - or if people were to force them, as the anti-Semites seem to want to do - could even now become predominant, in fact, quite literally gain mastery over Europe, is certain; that they are not working and planning for that is equally certain
Let israelites into your country or you are weak
>"Let no more israelites in! And especially bar the doors to the east (also to Austria)!" So orders the instinct of a people whose type is still weak and uncertain, so that it could be easily erased, easily dissolved away by a stronger race. But the israelites are without any doubt the strongest, most tenacious, and purest race now living in Europe
Let israelites join your aristocracy like the British
>We should comply with all caution, and selectively, more or less the way the English aristocracy does it. It's clear that the stronger and already firmly established type of the new Germanism could involve itself with them with the least objection, for example, the aristocratic officers from the Mark [of Brandenburg]
>guy gets mad at christians
>loves israelites
hmmm...
Whenever I read this homosexuals work all you can do is just ask "Why?" Everything this guy says raises more questions to the author than he could answer. Then he just says a whole bunch of anecdotal shit and uses it as hard evidence for his cases when I never observe any of the shit he espouses in my own anecdotal encounters.
>be easily erased, easily dissolved away by a stronger race. But the israelites are without any doubt the strongest, most tenacious, and purest race now living in Europe
God he tried so hard to larp as a Polish israeli it just got ridiculous after awhile. He was an extremely depressed, mentally ill man who hated himself and engaged in etc xenophilia all of the time.
>I break off my cheerful Germanomania [Deutschthümelei] and speech of celebration. For I'm already touching on something serious to me, on the "European problem," as I understand it, on the breeding of a new ruling caste for Europe.
Look how psychotic this guy is. He's literally a white genocide poster. Then you know one day FOR NO REASON AT ALL german people threw people like him in a camp.
There isn't one single passage in Nietzsche (that I know) that is defeatist-- he looked at life from the Amor Fati perspective
It's a literal coping mechanism, he wrote what he wanted to be without ever really being it. As he got older the larp became sadder and sadder. The actual biography of the man reveals him just being a broken , dying man by the time of 45
Whenever I try reading Nietzsche I get the impression of some Jordan Peterson fan before his time. Some guy with severe self-esteem and anxiety problems. Maybe I'll have to give him another shot.
That was what he was, I say it as a fan. His style was intended to be accessible and passionate. He was the link between philosophy and self-help. Appreciate that within its own context, rather than projecting cringe from today onto him.
Also, Stirner is funnier.
No it isn't because
1-Nietzsche's life (much life Kafka's) was pretty eventful; people think of him as a brooding type but he was always travelling to nice places, visiting friends, going for walks and to the opera
2-the premise of Nietzsche's thought it LIFE-- the only thing that he felt couldn't be evaluated.
Nietzsche developed well-known mental issues at the end of his life, but there's not one single hint of him giving up on it. Before that, his activities and writings were always robust and life-affirming compared to, say, Schopenhauer's morose facade.
>was pretty eventful;
He polarized often between highs and lows in life that ended up killing him, his life was extremely chaotic and tragic. His writings don't genuinely reflect his attitudes considering we absolutely know he spiralled out of control several times in life due to physical and mental illness and would sink into despair. His sister actually tried to help him a lot through his life
Then he would pick himself up and get some ambition and hope again. In the end though he just completely broke.
That implies a bipolarity that was never there. His life was subdued, even when he broke up with people. the Wagner thing and Lou Salome's refusal were probably the two moments that messed with his usually collected demeanor.
The illnesses he endured were not uncommon experiences back then, and the post-mental breakdown years (a little over a decade) were unrepresentative.
There's not one single shred of self-pity in his writings. Falling/stumbling and getting up again is just living life the best way you possibly can.
He was a bipolar female. Probably would have had a tumblr if he was alive today.
Going to tumblr? Forget not thy whip
Nietzsche was into BDSM? I bet he was a bottom like Sade.
He didn't take himself too seriously and knew how to be casual and playful. There's a pic of him and another guy as horses pulling a cart w/ Lou Salome pretending to whip them.
As for the whip quote, usual lesson worth reminding: never go light when dealing with women
How the frick did you read Thus Spake Zarathustra as satire?
It’s a reference to Ralph Waldo Emerson’s Harvard Divinity School Address, in which he says that Westerners have become so attached to past religious writings that they have lost the spirit that generated them in the first place. Thus Spoke Zarathustra is an attempt to channel that spirit into a new holy text for the world.
I have no idea what you're referring to but I assure you, you are... Le virgin loser.
Fricking couldn't just scroll past this gay shit. Why don't you take a lead aspirin, Meme Commander?
Hey Eggers if you’re here make a Zarathustra film adaptation
Maybe god was the friends we made along the way
Reminder that Nietzsche loved life more than any of you ever will
is there a more misunderstood philosopher than nietzsche?
>first uncle ted
>now uncle fredrick
Why are they going after right wing intellectuals and who is next?
he's hardly right-wing but i guess you need to co-opt him for "your team". sad.
No one cares, Bataille.
silly americans needing to divide everything and everyone into their simple right or left wing ideaologies. très triste!
He was not right wing. He is not right wing even today. If you want a right wing Neech, read Heidegger.
>I heard you on my wireless back in '52
>Lying awake, intent at tuning in on you
>If I was young, it didn't stop you coming through
>Oh-a, oh-a
>They took the credit for your second symphony
>Rewritten by machine and new technology
>And now I understand the problems you can see
>Oh-a oh-a
>I met your children
>Oh-a oh-a
>What did you tell them?
>Video killed the radio star
>Video killed the radio star
>Pictures came and broke your heart
>Oh-a-a-a oh
>And now we meet in an abandoned studio
>We hear the playback and it seems so long ago
>And you remember the jingles used to go
>Oh-a oh-a
>You were the first one
>Oh-a oh-a
>You are the last one
>Video killed the radio star
>Video killed the radio star
>In my mind and in my car
>We can't rewind, we've gone too far
>Oh-a-aho oh
>Oh-a-aho oh
>Video killed the radio star
>Video killed the radio star
>In my mind and in my car
>We can't rewind, we've gone too far
>Pictures came and broke your heart
>Put the blame on VCR
>You are a radio star
>You are a radio star
>Video killed the radio star
>Video killed the radio star
>Video killed the radio star
>Video killed the radio star
>Video killed the radio star
Based.
Lots of last men in here. Smells fruity
lol who is this guy hes got a funny mustache
Snietzscheed
So pretty much no one in this thread has actually read let alone understands any of the thinkers they're trying to talk about, huh?
>reading
Cinemaphile doesn’t read
Not reading is fine but there are people in this thread unironically saying killing Kant would have saved western civilization lmao
Kant was BTFO by israeli science and non-Euclidean geometry.
literally what and who are you even trying to talk about
Looks like the words were too big for you to understand
who was kant "btfo" by, moron
She’s mad
Kant stop sucking deez nuts lmao
>Genealogy of Morals
>Beyond Good and Evil
>Thus Spoke Zarathustra
That's about all I've read, I liked Heidegger and Schmitt better
>Heidegger
His writings post-"die kehre" are wild. I enjoyed reading them immensely, and wish there was more content on youtube or something that discussed it.
I definitely read it.
I don't watch movies about dead homosexuals
GOD IS DEAD
AND NO ONE CARES
IF THERE IS A HELL
I'LL SEE YOU IN THERE
Love this homie to death but that song is pure cringe. I skip whenever the vocals start
>ctrl-f "revaluation"
>0/0
Cinemaphile got filtered.
nice /misc/ bait thread, no one cares about those virgins, don't tell them that though
Dr. Robotnik has hair now?