>god tier opening scene
>everything else is either middling trash or outright excruciatingly groan inducing annoying
The movies underlying theme was about gods and afterlife and the entire runtime and for the rest of the day afterwards i had the strong urge to kill myself...so i guess the movie did its job i guess. The fact that the entire movie couldnt have been in the vein and tone of the first 10 minute scene showing gorrs origin just rubs salt in the wound more about how these shite films will stubbornly refuse to ever improve in any meaningful capacity. I swear watching these quip ridden MCU movies is the equivalent to the anti life equation
>Hero is Thor
>call villain 'Gorr'
>Odin’s father name was Bør
Deepest Lorr
Best friend is Korg
>enjoys a niche form of entertainment.
>get's mad when it's tailored for the general public in the safest way possible
Im fricking pissed that media for capeshit and sometimes even other nerd stuff has to be fricking sanitized and neutered to make it palatable for the shit taste of normal homosexuals. This is in part why i was so against the fox acquisition, they would still make marvel films that took risks that would sometimes be good like logan. Now everythings a fricking quip injected PG hallmark card shitsney movie. I fricking hate this future and wish someone would nuke disneyworld already
This movie isn't tailored to the general public it's tailored for sugar high twitter users
I don't know who the movie is tailored for because even my normalgay friends thought it was a bit heavy on the goofiness.
The second half was still pretty good though. Omnipotent City and the Shadow realm planet, and Thor and Jane's scenes on the boat, hospital, and in Eternity, were all godly.
I liked some of the gods in omnipotent city but making gorr le redeemed in the end was fricking moronic and frick you for thinking that was a good end
It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be from the leaks. Remember, in this movie the Necrosword was corrupting Gorr, and was partly the reason he wanted to kill all gods so bad, so it makes sense that partly lost his motivation after it was destroyed. He still wanted to go through with it, but it also makes sense that he would rather bring his daughter back to life too.
It was a fricking moronic ending for what couldve been an otherwise dignified and cool villain death. Also im sick of how fricking jokey these films can get. The scene with thor empowering all the asgardian kids with thor powers made me want to tear my own skin off from pure cringe
It was a dignified ending. You're just seething he wasn't LE EPIC BADASS ATHEIST
It wasnt dignified, it was a shit ending made for people who enjoy eating sewage and obsessed with crap villain redemption arcs. have a nice day
You just know they wouldn't have gone for that crap if they'd committed to his less human comics design.
>everything that looks alien is a heartless monster
Wow so progressive marlel
It's just common sense. There's a good reason why anytime someone says they wish the villain survived or was redeemed, they are 99% of the time talking about a villain who looks like a hot human.
Cool looking aliens and monsters>shitty boring fricking human characters
I fricking hate the beauty standards of npc normal homosexuals so much
He lost his daughter in the middle of a dustbowl, now he dies next to his daughter lying in Endless Azure. How is that not a dignified death?
Because he didnt adhere to wanting to kill all gods to his final breath
>Also im sick of how fricking jokey these films can get.
Like when they showed the death of The Warriors Three, the best best friends of Thor for hundreds of years, and referred to them as "Whoever these guys were"
There's a difference between levity, irreverence and disrespect, Marvel
He wasn't really redeemed so much as that without the Necrosword there were things he wanted more than just killing gods. Thor just reminded him of that.
Its pretty strongly telegraphed that the sword didn't just give him the ability to kill gods, it made him desire it. He was a puppet. Thor's speech at the end wouldn't have worked if Gorr still had the sword.
>could wish for his daughter to come back to life AND himself being in good health
Why was he stupid? Did he want to die?
Only 1 wish bro
That's a silly semantic issue.
If I wished for one coin or a pot of coins its still one wish despite the other having more.
It only takes a few seconds of thinking to word a wish that lets Gorr both live and have his daughter.
I liked how Eternity looked, but it was a silly and weak McGuffin, 'Wish' type McGuffins are always weak and prone to semantic issues.
What made the Infinity Gauntlet work is it at least attempts at showing consequences for the more extreme 'wishes', IE; Wiping out half the universe killed the stones, Bringing back half the universe.... badly burned the Hulk's arm to the point it won't heal? Actually yeah that was kinda weak, maybe we'll get more background on how badly Banner was fricked up internally in SheHulk...... not likely?
>Wiping out half the universe killed the stones
This isn't what happened. Wiping out half the universe burned and damaged the Gauntlet, yeah, but it didn't destroy the Stones. A little bit after retiring on his new planet, he uses the Stones to destroy the Stones.
What a waste of a character and actor.
Too bad Thor didn't remember Eternity being able to grant wishes back during the blip. Could have avoided time travel and just bifrost to Eternity and back in like 20 minutes lol.
He didn't know that Stormbreaker was the key.... how did Gorr know? Frick if I know, the Necrosword did it
So if Thor never broke his hammer and went to Dwarf world to make Stormbreaker, nobody would have ever been able to access Eternity?
Its implied that Odin put a lock on the door to Eternity because leaving it open for anyone to use was too dangerous. That's why the Bifrost, something that Asgard made and controlled, was the key to unlocking it.
Stormbreaker can summon the bifrost, but the bifrost isn't unique to Stormbreaker. They used the Bifrost in The first 3 Thor movies, remember?
> The scene with thor empowering all the asgardian kids with thor powers made me want to tear my own skin off from pure cringe
Why? Jane using Mjolnir show Thor that meant that god powers could be bestowed, at least temporarily. Thor just did the same thing Odin did on a smaller scale.
Why would a scene of poorly directed kids fighting monsters by twirling them up in string and other shit make audience think it is cringe that cheapens the entire film? It is a mystery...
>birfrost was key, not stormbreaker
Sorry I watched the cam a couple nights ago while totally trashed, I don't even remember what Eternity looked like now.
Could at least have tried, I don't think Thor even knew he needed a key. Also, you would think Gorr himself would try it. He might have seen the blip as another evil work of the gods, even though Thanos isn't a god, but the Infinity Stones kinda are.
I disagree. I feel like the opening scene was the only major misstep. I was really looking forward to seeing two fighting gods fall from the sky and Gorr just frick up the survivor.
>enjoying moronic humor and stupidity and calling the one moment of kino "the only bad part of the movie"
Subhumans like you should be euthanized for polluting society and media with your chronic shit taste
The god he encounters in the first scene is good at establishing why Gorr would be pissed off since said god is a dick who tries to kill him. But in the comics Gorr's beef wasn't that the gods were malicious. His problem was that the gods were uncaring. That they let his whole family die as he begged them for help only to find out they were too busy with their own petty squabbles to help their followers. I suppose my complaint is that it kind of truncates his arc instead of showing him as someone who lost faith and belief in the gods long ago only to suddenly see they are real and they don't even care about you.
I don't know, maybe I'm just being pedantic.
So why do they make a big deal about The Necrosword being a god killer weapon when we've proven MCU Gods can die by various other means?
Hell all it took to kill Loki was a little choking, Odin just got old, did Hela even die?
>Thor could have been killed by Thanos bare handed, or by the star that forged Stormbreaker
>Loki was killed by a choke out via Thanos
>Hela was obliterated by Surtur's burning sword
>Asgardians could be hurt by Frost Giant blades
>Asgardians just fricking die from normal stab wounds half the time
>Odin died of old age
Yeah I don't get this. It only makes sense if they're implying Knull is going to be a thing, and the blade is feared because of its master
just fricking die from normal stab wounds half the time
I'm still angry about the Warriors 3 going out like chumps to a couple of thrown letter-openers.
I'm in no way defending their deaths or how much they were wasted BUT TO BE COMPLETELY FAIR....Hela's blades (being the goddesses of death) is a justifiable method of killing an Asgardian. It gets iffy with other shit. See the problem is that the Thor stuff at the beginning/start of the movies was "We're not really gods, just really advanced aliens that live a long time". And then later on as the series progressed, especially in this film, they just said frick it we're gods now
>Hela's blades (being the goddesses of death) is a justifiable method of killing an Asgardian
Eh good enough I guess, still shitty how flippant it was for characters that ostensibly should've been important if only because they're Thor's friends. Does he even ask about them after their deaths, mourn? Swear vengeance, anything? It's like they were never even there.
Sif got it way worse if you ask me. Feels like the only friend Thor really gave a damn about was Heimdall
And Loki, obviously.
A quick glance at a wiki page shows that she appeared on Agents of Shield for a while. Weird how nobody references that show anymore.
Because it was never canon
I think there's an explanation for every point
>Thor could have been killed by Thanos bare handed, or by the star that forged Stormbreaker
Thanos is an Eternal, superpowered beings created by the Celestials, and kinda are artificial gods if you think about it. And Thanos is the strongest Eternal ever with a Deviant gene. Withstanding the full power of a neutron star for a minute is pretty impressive, and proves Thor is a god.
>Hela was obliterated by Surtur's burning sword
>Asgardians could be hurt by Frost Giant blades
Giants from Norse mythology are pretty another tribe of gods like the Aesir and the Vanir. They're at the very least godly magical beings.
>Asgardians just fricking die from normal stab wounds half the time
Depends on which weapons are used.
>Odin died of old age
I don't think so, it's more like Odin just chose to pass away when he did. He was at least half a million years old at the time anyway.
I'm not really bothered by the bifrost key thing because its a dimensional shortcut that Asgardians were only to harness thanks to the space stone. When you need an infinity stone to develop a type of magic/science to brute force into a location, that admittedly is a feat and good safeguard
>I'm not really bothered by the bifrost key thing because its a dimensional shortcut that Asgardians were only to harness thanks to the space stone.
Nothing implies that the bifrost was developed thanks to the space stone. The bifrost is a Norse divine magic. I also think the Asgardians as well as all the other pantheons just uses magic and divine powers now. The magiscience ancient alien deal from the early MCU is pretty much retconned
>Nothing implies that the bifrost was developed thanks to the space stone.
Actually, yes, there is. They specifically said they repaired the Bifrost after Thor 1 with the tesseract, an item they prized and kept for centuries until hidden on Earth
Oh no! I got hyped for capeshit garbage number 21234, and it turned out to be shit!
How could this happen to me?
i didn't expected this movie to introduce Singularity.
Movie was messy as frick but I frickin loved seeing Christian Bale chew the scenery and having a blast, shame they reportedly cut a shitton of his scenes.
>WHAT A NEAT STORY!
That whole scene is funny in retrospect because its Gorr *trying* to explain his position to the children, he thinks he is being reasonable and friendly, but he is so far down the rabbit hole that he comes off as unhinged instead.
>I swear watching these quip ridden MCU movies is the equivalent to the anti life equation
cringe
Heh God Tier