These are the best Godzilla films. That's not up for debate.
Now that it's been settled, what are your personal favorites and why?
Godzilla
These are the best Godzilla films. That's not up for debate.
Now that it's been settled, what are your personal favorites and why?
So close but 2014 is better than KotM.
fpbp
Not a single face worth yoinking to in 2014 compared to kotm's mills
This
how can you tell when you can't see anything?
You can barely fricking see Godzilla because they hide him in constant dust and shadow
false. the only good thing about 2014 was the original trailer
2014 sucks so much ass.
2019 also sucks ass. but 2019 is worse because it is the sequel
>no Final Wars
>no Biollante
Final wars is gay anime zipshit
KOTM is one of the worst movies I've ever seen
That movie IS FRICKING SHIT and moronS here LOVE IT
That's because it's typically compared to 2014. It's better than 2014 for sure, but it's not even in the top 20 of all Godzilla films.
I'm not a Godzilla nerd but I saw KOTM robotripping on a bottle of DXM and that shit makes me love every movie I see on it and I thought KOTM was fricking terrible and incomprehensible just noise and lights awful fricking movie really bad
*ahem*
Based
same for me but I might swap final wars for something but I’m not sure
I'd probably swap it for minus one to be tbh
I have decided I’m swapping final wars out for vs. hedorah
You forgot ACTUAL kino
I think Destroyah sucks because the fundamental thing at the center of it, Godzilla dying, feels contrived past the point of exploitation.
Even as a child this film made me groan.
This, all the dramatic push of Godzilla dying is kind of ruined by the wobbly Destroyer puppets, the literal Bandai figures, the shoe-horned in "let's use the Oxygen Destroyer" subplot that is quickly forgotten, the embarrassing matte shots in Hong Kong with people just going about their day, and even in the final scene, Godzilla's grand death, they couldn't be fricked to re-film or edit out a smoke ring caused by the pyrotechnics. It's a mediocre movie.
Destroyah is up there with Gigan for "monster who gets hyped up by people who don't actually watch the movies"
He didn't even kill Godzilla, Godzilla died after beating him because he was dying the whole movie
looking like the devil helps his reputation as well
Is this vs Destroyah? Always heard this was a great one
yea
some anons understandably argue that Destroyah himself didn't have much to do in his own movie, but reactor core meltdown Goji is 2cool
Guy’s girlfriend in Minus one should’ve stayed dead. All that rubble hitting her and she only got a busted eye. Only flaw, 8.5/10
Maybe but it thematically makes sense with the movie's theme.
she's alive because godzilla contamination or some shit. I like her being alive but it should have just been by chance
Oh yeah, I had completely forgotten about that. What the frick was that?
gojira semen
Godzilla Cells infecting her body.
She's either going to become psychic or turn into Biollante.
Pretty sure she has some Godzilla DNA or some shit where she can telepathically connect w/Godzilla maybe even heal a bit better? And next movie she will be getting hurt as Godzilla does or talk to it.
I like this lil homie. My favorite part of the Heisei movies is how the Super X transformed in every movie. It even became a part of Mechagodzilla.
That was Garuda. I don't know if it's from the X family especially if the Garuda-class was supposed to be expanded in Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla.
I watched all Legendary Godzilla
Godzilla 1998
All out monsters attack
Shin Godzilla
Both MechaGodzilla films
Whats next?
Watch the Heisei movies in order.
All the Godzilla vs. Mothra versions
>Both MechaGodzilla films
>both
There are like five.
Final Wars sucks. It's like a child smashing all their action figures together.
That's why it was based though
and that’s a good thing
Cry, b***h.
>child smashing all their action figures together.
I keep hearing this as a criticism, but why is that a problem? Sometimes the entertainment people want is precisely that. Like what Godzilla x Kong is shaping up to be.
Godzilla was primarily marketed at little boys for probably the biggest chunk of its existence. When I was 11 Final Wars was both the goofiest and the coolest shit I had ever seen, I loved it
My top 3 are Shin, Final Wars, and Minus One (which I just saw an hour ago), KOTM a tier down in 4th.
Others I've seen are Astro monster, Ebirah, Son of Godzilla, vs Megalon, vs Mechagodzilla, Hedorah, Vs Kong,, Mechagodzilla 2, Destroyah, 2000 and the other Monsterverse films (but a lot of those I don't remember well, I know among those I liked Heisei Mechagoji, Destroyah, and 2000 the best, maybe also Hedorah?)
Final Wars is amazing over-the-top-dumb-hype-bullshit, which I love, and Shin is like the peak of the tonal opposite in terms of portraying Godzilla as a walking horror or destruction, and also has incredible directing and really engaging stuff with government bureaucracy. KOTM has like FW's hype with Shin's moody directing and sense of scale, but isn't as well executed as either.
Minus One is obviously much more in line with shin as a serious, grounded take on Godzilla, but I think I prefer shin slightly, mostly because of it's directing (Minus one probably shows destruction about as well as Shin, but the actual shots and framing and lighting isn't quite as interesting) and I think Godzilla himself is more interesting/creepy in Shin. [
The intial scene in Minus One where Godzilla is only like 30-50 feet tall and is almost more like a gnarly and gangly predatory animal was really cool, but I wish that was how Godzilla was handled across the whole movie. As he got larger, he felt less and less animated and emotive in terms of body language, and just sort of slowly lumbers and turns around, looking and sort of acting just like Heisei Godzilla, which isn't as interesting or threatening as Shin (where it's stoic movements and lack of emoting works with it's creepy design) nor how it was earlier in the film with it frantically sniffing and snarling around hunched over and darting it's head around like a frenzied animal (it's body proportions might have even been less thicc and more animalistic?)
Ran out of space
You suck
cont:
I also feel like the rapid regeneration and almost mechanical charge up sequence for the atomic breath also clashed a bit with how grounded the movie was otherwise: Again, making goji more animalistic, like how he was at the start or in Monsterverse, would work better IMO
I do think Minus One has better characters: The overall coordination and human response in Shin was interesting and really engaging, but the individual characters within the bureaucracy were, while not boring, sort of static, wheras the Minus One cast has actual like character arcs and you care about them more. The survivor's guilt themeing was also as well done as Shin's theme with human cooperation and government incompetency (which Minus One also does a bit, especially the former).
I also think Minus one has a better conclusion (though a worse stinger): I feel like Shin blueballs you just a little by not letting the tension ratchet up before he's finally frozen (I really wish Shin Goji started to transform into the big angel thing from the concept art right before he froze), wheras I think Minus One's climax and plan had a similar setup but the tension landed a bit more (I was spoiled that Godzilla survives but I was still really invested watching it)
Lastly, I think it did a good job conveying the early postwar time period well with sets and costuming, but I don't know shit about that time period so I can't comment about the accuracy, just that it felt immersive.
Huh, I noticed this but thought I was just not making sense of her hair right.
Ran out of space again
>good job conveying the early postwar time period well with sets and costuming
still thinking about this a lot 2 weeks later
hard times for everyone
additional thoughts
- Not that the final scene sequencew didn't have plenty of drama and tension already (in part because I wasn'[t sure if kochi was actually gonna do the freon plan or if he planned to kamikaze his mouth from the start and would frick it all up, which maybe wasn';t supposed to be something you worried about and i'm just a dumbass?) but I wonder if it';d be even more intense if we know norako was still alive while koichi didn't, but was still seemingly going to kill himself
- Sort of ties into my comment about godzilla being more animalistric intially, but I also felt like the CGI was worse then Shin, both with godzilla and other things, I guess shin's cgi for godzilla was pretty bad at the start and got great by his final evolution, but here ot's the opposite, where intially I felt his smaller/more animalistic sequence was really convicning CGI was perhaps in part because of the more organic movement, but laer on it felt sort of cheap
Ghidorah isn't a jobber tho? that's rodan, gigan, etc
Sorry anons, keep having additional thoughts
I wonder if it'd be better if Noriko wasn't close to Koichi, and he hid in the alleyway as she was still running down the street.
It'd avoid it being sort of contrived that she pushed him instead of just going into the alleyway herself, and it'd make it so he'd have extra guilt for saving himself once again instead of trying to run to grab her
This isn't a problem inherently, the problem is it does it in a shitty way. The Matrix/X-men ripoff plot takes up too much time and the monster fights are too brief.
>King of the Monsters
Burgerslop doesn't count
Post GDP.
post foreskin
The shingay included kotm to distract you from his garbage movie, do not fall for his schemes
>KotM
Never thought I'd see Red used a reaction image. Weird times.
54
vsBiollante
Shin
MinusOne
Minus One should have had the pilot actually die and the wife be dead as well. And then the daughter turns into a yukio Mishima reference and tries to restore the empire to power then commits seppuku.
I think Final Wars is a stupid movie, but I also think movies like that should exist.
KOTM was a mess, Shin was overrated, agreed on Gojira and Minus One.
My personal favorites are (no real order)
>Gojira
>Minus One
>GMK
>King Kong vs. Godzilla
>vs. Hedorah
>vs. Gigan
>vs. Mechagodzilla
>Against Mechagodzilla
>Legendary Slop
>Among the best
>No GMK
>No Biollante
>No Destroyah
>No Final Wars
>No vs Kong (original)
Fake fan
Hot take: Biollante and Destoroyah are extremely overrated. Heisei is the worst era.
Millennium was the worst. Full of low quality shitty cgi
Millennium is better than heisei. Reiwa is on its way to BTFO it though. Showa is its own thing and there can be no competition to it.
Showa will always be undisputed the range alone is unbeatable. You have beautiful, technically amazing films, and you have outright fun romps.
SOVL
Not a single banzai in minus one
Reiwa has two excellent films, three downright insulting and so far no identity. I coul dput two of its movies near the top but era-wise it's dead last.
Those animated things count?
They have to. And if they didn't exist I'd be perfectly ok with the entire series even if I'm not a fan of some of them I always start watching with excitement and hope. But the anime movies are different because I'm aware I'm not going to change my mind about them. Even worse that there are three of them that basically form one movie so it's not only worse than others it's also the longest.
GMK and Against were enough to make it better than Heisei.
This, as much as I love the Heisei era. Though I would argues that the Heisei era has the most consistent quality.
I agree with your statements regarding vs Biolante and Destroyer.. but '84, vs Ghidora and vs Mechagodzilla 2 are fantastic and are top tier.
>Mechagodzilla II
>wobbly, stiff Rodan puppet
>composite shot of Godzilla way out of scale with way out of scale fire in the background
>long, sleep-inducing final fight
The only thing it has going for it is a more streamlined plot compared to the previous two '90s movies and an awesome title card.
>>long, sleep-inducing final fight
incorrect
Biollante and King Ghidorah blew me away. But the honeymoon phase of the Heisei series of me was falling asleep through the last third of each subsequent movie. I as 14.
The monster stories in this movie are A+. Maybe the strongest in the series. Everyone has their own goals and they either fight or form alliances. It's perfect.
>84 over Biollante
tf is wrong with you? that movie is bland as frick and feels like a prototype of shin
>feels like a prototype of shin
NTA, but that's exactly why it's so good. The animalistic portrayal of Goji makes him look so innocent and truly a victim of reckless human behaviour, which is very well contrasted with his aggressive nature, like the scene when he tramples the hobo.
The care put into the suit and especially the eyes make him easy to connect with, something Shin lacked. Him falling into Mt. Mihara was very emotional, also something Shin missed.
Return has something raw to it, something that enhanced it, which Shin just lacks.
>The care put into the suit and especially the eyes make him easy to connect with
I thought it made him look goofy as frick. The suit is perfect save for the eyes. Something which was fixed in the next movie, and imo puts 1989 as the best design along with Final Wars.
>I thought it made him look goofy as frick.
This. It's like a modernized late Showa look and it's just fricking goofy. I don't even count '84 in Heisei in my personal canon because it's unlike any of the rest. It was like a practice movie lol.
>I don't even count '84 in Heisei in my personal canon because it's unlike any of the rest.
Well that's not far from the truth, because '84 was still made during the Showa era and it still has a lot of the old guard like Teruyoshi Nakano working on it. Biollante was the first fully new guard film.
It depends from shot to shot, some are goofy, some are quite good looking. The eyes are a bit too big, but that makes him so distinct, and the eye moving mechanism would sometimes fail, giving him crossed eyes.
Biollante isn't my favourite Heisei design, the head is disproportionally small compared to the rest of the body, the cranial area looks especially small.
Later Heisei designs are an improvement, although they gave him too big thighs in the last few movies.
The 84 eyes are bad from the front but look good from the side.
You also have to differentiate the suit from the Cybot (pic related)
There's not a single full body shot of the animatronic in the entire movie. At least I don't remember it. Maybe just the upper body shot.
Pretty sure it roars a couple of times, you can see the animatronic has an ugly bulbous nose while the suit has a more flat snout.
Suit
Suit
1985 has better mood, more military porn, a better overall godzilla design, a better ending, more G screentime & better pacing than Shin.
Shin has better destruction (for 1 scene), sexier women & probably a better score (85's score is still fantastic)
Shin is severely overrated & I say that as a Anno fan.
That fight against the pod was lame as frick.
>Minus One
I loved it but I'm gonna wait a bit before I actually rank it. I feel like I have a bit of recency bias with it. Still, one of the best G films in a long time. Nice seeing Goji be the villain again.
>'54
Yeah, goes without saying.
>Shin
Over time I'm a bit mixxed on it. Human stuff are normally the worst of any movie but here it's non-existant dispite how much time we spend with human characters. I don't even remember the names of any human characters.
>KOTM
Was fine, what little I could see of it.
Fricking based. 2000 is incredibly underrated and has less flaws than the very good but overrated GMK.
Pros
> Genuinely unique villain monster.
> Solid grounded Godzilla vs military scenes. Good use of real tank footage.
> Very good score.
> Family was likable & the kid wasn't annoying.
> Odd but comfy tone related to the mysteriousness of the alien.
> Fantastic extended opening Godzilla attack.
> While there was some issues with his size fluctuating, more than almost any other non CGI movie in the franchise, this film did a great Job of inserting Godzilla into the distance of real shots.
> Great Godzilla suit & a very fresh redesign that notably contrast with the heisei suits while still feeling very G.
> The American Cut's editing, pacing & sound is universally agreed to be better than the Japanese cut.
Not any full cons of note I can think of. Some nitpicks.
> Orga's claws are overly clunky and don't open or function.
> Godzilla'a restraint when being genuinely hurt by the missiles got kinda absurd, just blast them already.
> Some of the American dialogue/dub/voices are hokey/silly but never harmfully so.
FRICK the mother fricking argogant wienersucker who refused to make the direct American sequel with the lava bat monster in Hawaii with Bruce Campbell, Spock & Christoper Lee all because he made Spider-Man bucks & Godzilla was now beneath him.
You've been spamming your shit opinions verbatim for 3.5 years loser. Kys
I would love KOTM more if it was slightly brighter and I wish monsterverse would stop focusing on kong as if recently and use more toho monsters, seeing HD destroyah would be sick
at least introduce angurius while reintroducing godzilla's previous allies rodan and mothra
is that the one with the fairies and the blackface islanders?
>KOTM
Lmao no. It’s mediocre at best. The real list goes:
>Gojira
>Shin Godzilla
>Minus One
>Godzilla vs Hedorah
I would even add Mothra vs Godzilla in there too.
KotM gets more boring every time I watch it, and I fell asleep in the theater
Godzilla 1954
Invasion of Astro-Monster
Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla II
Shin Godzilla
Astro Monster, Hedorah, MechaGodzilla II, and GMK are my favorites. I do think 54, Shin, and Minus One are the best
good taste
King of the Monsters is slop and doesn't deserve to be up there, this has to be bait.
>Kotm
Commit suicide.
>mfw the Beast from 20,000 fathoms came out a year before Godzilla
Have the japs ever made anything original?
>take generic American atomic monster movie
>Honda interjects his experiences in the war for true pathos
>Tsuburaya invents a whole new SFX genre
>Ifukube puts all the respect of his classical work into this cheesy monster movie
And they created absolute kino.
>generic
>literally invented atomic monsters
It's just King Kong with an atomic dinosaur and none of the emotion of King Kong.
>the emotion of King Kong
WHERE DA WHITE WIMMIN AT?
No one from Toho saw it before making Godzilla. At best/worst it was like Tanaka said that they were aware of its existence and that it had a monster dinosaur.
>During his flight, Tanaka wrote an outline with the working title The Giant Monster from 20,000 Miles Beneath the Sea
I don't know if it was during the flight. It sounds a bit far-fetched but the outline had this name. The title isn't indicative of anything but there's one person who knew.
Shigeru Kayama, who was a sci fi author hired by Toho (based on his 1952 short story "The Jira Monster") to come up with a story he did have a lighthouse scene that was cut by Murata and Honda when they adapted it. Did Kayama see The Beast? No, he was simply familiar with Bradbury's Foghorn (original title of the story was actually The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms just like the movie). However the connection between Foghorn and the WB movie was simply symbolic and mostly a marketing gimmick.
Been meaning to watch that
The beast actually kinda freaks me out, something about it activates my ape brain in a way godzilla doesn't, maybe cause I grew up watching godzilla thinking he was cool.
First ever super hero was Japanese.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kek, have you never heard of King Kong, Black person?
nah, homey
you saw those crazy lazer beams the earth scientists used to disrupt the Xiliens mind control rays
*zap*
My gripe with the KOTM line of movies is just how fricking dark they are visually. You can barely see the fricking monsters. In the jap movies even in dark scenes, Godzilla and others are very strikingly clear cut in any given shot.
Noticed this watching The Return of Godzilla.
Also that character is Goro Maki, which is the name of the mysterious professor in Shin.
I'm sure there's a conspiracy here.
There have been four Goro Makis in the series so far.
I remember Akiro Kubo's character from Son of Godzilla being a Maki, was he a Goro Maki? What's the fourth?
Why are there so many?
Apparently these are the four. I also forgot the fourth one whoever he is.
Oh right, the guy from Megalon.
I never recall them saying his last name but I'll go with it.
Anyone who liked KOTM is a homosexual and has the attention span of a gnat.
For me its:
1) 1954
2) Minus One
3) Shin
4) Giant Monsters All-Out Attack
5) Minus One the second time I saw.
pretty good ranking
It's too one note. Even Yamazaki is more interesting because he also put Ghidorah on the list.
That new Megalon Short >>>
I really like the Heisei and Millennium eras, but Showa completely filters me tee bee aych. I've skimmed over some of the movies and it really just seems like guys in rubber suits wrestling in an empty field over and over. There's no spectacle and destruction like the periods that followed.
And yet I hear that's the favorite era of many fans, wut
>it really just seems like guys in rubber suits wrestling in an empty field over and over
It's funny you say that, because the Heisei series was where Godzilla finally started to feel samey.
W R O N G
Godzilla vs. Mothra, Mechagodzilla II, SpaceGodzilla and Destroyah are all snoozefests with a thirty-minute long battle in the same drab sets. Each Showa movie is practically a different genre and even in the 70's when they were failing, they tried a different approach with each movie.
MG2 is goated and for kinoisseurs
MG'93 is for those who love the monsters not only because they get the most screentime out of the entire series but because they're all good characters with motivation and great resolution.
>skim the movies
>feel no connection to what's happening
no shit
There's more building destruction early on. That ends around invasion of Astro Monster when they realize they can just use barren wasteland areas instead.
What's with all the Zoomers here pretending like Godzilla vs Destroyah and 90s Godzilla vs. Mothra wasn't kino?
First day on Cinemaphile? This shithole is filled to the brim with chronic contrarians.
Going to a showing tonight at 7:45pm for Minus One. Ducking out for spoilers and thanks for reading my blog.
Enjoy, great film
Just got in, not gonna bother marking spoilers so don't read my post if you haven't seen it.
Shikishima and Noriko should have died, and I don't say that in an edgy way. I'm old enough to have had some close people in my life die, and often times that makes people averse to sad music, films, stories, etc. but no, these two characters definitely should have died. The movie lost a lot of pathos, particularly with Noriko surviving. Yeah yeah, she has some kind of psychic link to Godzilla (???????????) but she should have died. It was also quite a bit melodramatic at times, particularly the emotional scenes with Noriko. They worked well enough, but man less screaming would have worked for me better from her. A very good movie, definitely above your usual moviegoing experience. I thiiiiiiiink I like Shin Godzilla a little more. Not shitflinging at all. I watched Shin twice within 24 hours, but I have no desire to rewatch Minus One, at least not now. It's high time I slowly spool through the rest of the Godzilla filmography, just very slowly.
Side note, I really liked how rocky Goji was on this film. It reminded me a lot, and gave credence to the idea of those anime films from the last 7 years where he became a gigantic rock 300m tall. In Minus One, it made him feel like a force of nature, or a living boulder come to wreak havoc.
Side side note, the music was excellent. 10/10 soundtrack, absolutely elevated every moment of the film it played. Best fricking part.
Shin Godzilla/1954
Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster
Ebirah, Horror of the Deep
Terror of Mechagodzilla
nugodzilla fans are really the worst
Those that arrived after Minus One and act as if they own the place.
> Kotm
Get that trash out of here
I don't get the hate kotm gets from Cinemaphile. It's basically just showa shit made in the modern day. The vfx, and the sound design in particular were fricking sick.
is it really all just because it wasn't made by muh based nippon?
the characters and dialogue are insufferable
It's because they paid all that money for the monsters and then hid them in clouds, shadow, smoke and close-ups. It was a giant monster wiener tease. Also the human plot was fricking nonsensical in the worst possible way. Frick that garbage movie.
My biggest grudge with it is how the humans could've been much more interesting, yet they opted in for Millie fricking Bobby Brown and other cardboard cutouts whose sole existence is to tell a single M*rvel tier quip and then melt away into the background.
Also can't forgive them for tossing in the Oxygen Destroyer in so nonchalantly, wasting any and all impact it could've had.
Other than that, the Kaiju action is fricking glorious, one of the best in the entire franchise and the movie is pretty well off as far as Monsterverse goes.
King of the monsters 2019 is feminist garbage. The main character is vera famiga and she's some Tony stark tier genius who saves Godzilla in the end. Kotm is the worst modern Godzilla movie.
>The main character is vera famiga
No she is the villain.
>and she's some Tony stark tier genius
Not really.
>who saves Godzilla in the end.
No that is Mothra. Vera just distracts Ghidorah for redemption.
>I don't get the hate kotm gets from Cinemaphile.
Same
The monsters, designs, monster fights were great, maybe the best of any godzilla movie
I don't hate it I have watched it once and never felt the urge to watch it since. Compare that to Toho Godzilla movies where I have watched every single one at least 3-4 times and some way more than that. I've seen Minus One 3 times already. If they release that B&W version to theaters I'll go again.
The fact that I don't care about it enough to watch it again means it's not very good(to me). You can argue about why if you want I don't waste much time analyzing why I just recognize what is.
Only in Showa you could see Godizlla frick up both the Soviets and the Chinese in the span of four years.
The mothra designs was trash in 2019. They made her into an anorexic wienerroach.
>movie feels like 3 hours
>human story is awful and takes most of the film, accompanied by MCU humor
>monster fights obscured by darkness, smoke, rain, snow, strobe lights, shaky cam and jump cuts.
If you want “modern day showa” GvK does it much better, even if still heavily flawed.
So I'll like Minus One if I enjoyed Shin and KotM?
Good to know, good to know. Will watch now.
I've not seen KOTM. Is it kino?
And I thought Shin Godzilla was okay. Godzilla and Minus One are superb films.
KotM is good if you like monsters because it's dripping with sheer worship of these characters. Shame the entire thing couldn't be this solid so putting it in the middle of the list seems fair.
Frick legendary shits. Just watch the Kaiju Cut and be done with it.
drive google com/file/d/14YuVCpOl0XCXTfw09qId87zM6YYF_jFu/edit
>drive google com/file/d/14YuVCpOl0XCXTfw09qId87zM6YYF_jFu/edit
Oh wow I made this fan edit few years ago, glad to see people are still discovering it. I really do feel like once you take out all the stupid inbetween scenes, the action holds way the frick up.
If anyone is interested, I chopped together all the Kaiju only scenes from Godzilla/KotM/GvK into one movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8XWWUyMmW4
really cool work anon ill be watching this soon. i imagine its thankless to make a fan cut but i want you to know its appreciated
KotM is the only really good Legendary Godzilla movie. 2014 has its moments but too little monster action and GvK onwards it turned into schlock.
KotM is super schlock and makes the oxygen destroyer into a whatever cameo. At least KvG has discernable fight scenes.
KOTM is a monster movie where you can barely see the fricking things.
King of the Monsters is the only godzilla movie I almost completely hate. Get the FRICK out of here.
I adore those skyscrapers, so much care was put in those damn miniatures. The set quality drops off a bit after GvKG, but the Heisei finale makes up for it.
Strongly Seconded.
and suddenly kotm 2019 is the most hated godzilla film
you guys are the worst.
Is literally the only good legandary film, also one of the best ones alongside shin and minus one.
There are no good legendary films. There has never been a good Godzilla film made outside Japan.
>good movies are when the studio pays taxes in the country I approve of
Good movies are when I like them and want to re-watch them. Simple as.
It's not. But out of the Legendary movies (the ones seen by most people) it's both the most popular and second most disliked (after GVK) which means it's definitely the most controversial.
> it's both the most popular
> makes less box office than 2014
Yes, it's more popular among fans but also a significant number doesn't like it (and only GVK is more disliked for obvious reasons). Based on the polls but it's obvious if you've been around. KotM always gets most attention while saying you like GVK is considered an unpopular opinion. KSI is the least controversial and consistently liked.
I hated it the moment the credits ended in the theaters. Such a letdown after 2014. Finally got a Hollywood-budget Rodan, King Ghidorah, and Mothra and didn't feel anything, barely even got to see them.
frick off
>Gives him attention
mass reply Black folk like you are the worst. gtfo attention prostitute.
I did not care for KOTM. It was bad. GVK was easily the "best" Legendary movie. Godzilla Minus One is great but not as good as Shin Godzilla.
I do not fricking understand the people who say GVK is better than Kotm.
Yes it fixed the lighting/murkiness and had slightly more interesting lead characters but the human villains are far far worse, G's fight with MG is way way too one sided, G blasting down into the Hollow earth is probably the stupidest most moronic moment in the history of the franchise, the pointless Mexican kid dumping beer on the controls saving the day was cringy as fricking hell.
I like the Legendary movies but GVK easily has the most numerous flaws.
KotM was piss boring and didn't have any fights, the monsters had no sense of scale and the effects took a nosedive since the last movie. GvK brought back the sense of scale, even though it was moronic, and it was also fun.
Congratulations, this is the most moronic, raw dogshit opinion I've seen here in a while, by far. You dumb fricking Black person ape, you cretin, in KotM, as flawed as it is, the movement feels heavy, there are plenty of humans, buildings and whatnot to scale the Kaiju, and the visuals are objectively superior to GvK. In GvK the ape zooms around at light speed as not to make the ADHD brainrotten targeted audience not reach momentarily for their phones, half the movie takes place inside the Earth, which was executed piss poorly. I could go on, but there's no point in talking with such a fricking amoeba as you.
All you have to do is see the very first shot of Godzilla in the SanFran flashback and you can tell he looks markedly worse than in 2014. Even my normie friend noticed it. Compare that to the massive punch Kong gives Godzilla on the aircraft carrier where you feel all twenty tons or however much power is behind his monke fist.
This is my opinion. You may not like it, but it's mine.
It's always interesting to see others rankings. I doubt you'll ever get two Godzilla fans who have the exact same rankings honestly. Only consistant thing is '54 being in the top. Only thing I usually disagree with are the F teirs with any given list. All Monsters Attack is the only G movie I put in my personal F teir, you putting it in C tells me you may of watched it as a kid and hold some nostalgia for it.
There's a lot I can ask about this but I would like to know Why Invasion of Astro Monster is top tier for you?
We are devo!
cool aliens come to earth in saucers to frick shit up, american and his japanese buddy take them on, Godzilla in space, beautiful retro-scifi style, the dub is excellent. it's one of the best alien invasion movies ever
Fair enough.
I haven't seen it for nearly 20 years but I only remember it being mid tier so haven't rewatched it since.
Getting the Showa criterion collection so will check it out again.
I do find it funny how love for the Xilliens likely prompted the F for Finsl Wars.
rewatched it after Minus One
it's goofy as frick but charming and the aliens tricking mankind to use their monsters against Earth was a fairly decent plot
They could've just kidnap them without asking and conquer Earth right away.
Not him, but seeing Kumi Mizuno at age 10 is why I now have yellow fever, and Nick Adams gave me hope.
This. I like Astro Monster, it's fairly better than G3HM but it's still a big come down from Mothra vs.
anyone else really like this one? love all of the action. coolest version of mechagoji too.
I love it, though I think part of it is because it's so brisk at 88 minutes. That and Yumiko Shaku.
I think it’s among the best in the series.
I love Kiryu MG so much.
>Kiryu, you and I are buddies
>begins to take off her jumpsuit
>Kiryu suddenly fights with more conviction
>all these 2019 haters suddenly
so terminator mechagodzilla is the best film now
not complaining I liked it, but is inferior to 2019 one.
can't believe people prefer stinky poop over smelly shit. smelly shit piled high in my mouth is my favorite, but i guess some prefer stinky poop for dinner
Ifukube confirmed Godzilla's soul went to Heaven after his death and that's enough for me to like vs Destoroyah
The only bad godzilla is the old one with perry Mason, the lobster movie, zilla(though the cartoon was goat) and the godzilla had a kid movie. The rest are at least okay.
>the lobster movie
is kino.
Literally all the movies you mentioned are good, even GINO kinda.
GET FRICKED
This
Shin is my favourite. I also love The Thick of It. I think these things are related. I enjoy media about the absurdity of bureaucracy. Shin Godzilla himself is also just the fricking best.
I'd rather watch endless monster movies than super hero shit guys. Because I don't like something doesn't mean I don't love my godzilla bros. Merry Christmas guys.
Jesus fricking christ no need to mass reply like that. I didn't even say I hated KOTM I just said the movie obscures our vision of the kaiju with rain or some other shit. A very common complaint about it. Again, frick you for mass replying.
never reply to mass repliers. Never.
>that poor turtle
Never forget.
I don't give a shit. Vs. Gigan and Vs. Megalon are my favorites.
Gojira > Shin > -1 >>> KotM
2014 had good first third and godawful everything else
KOTM mogs it
Seen KOTM twice in theatre
Replace KotM with GMK and you're gold.
No, with one of the 60s Showa movies. G54, GMK, Shin and Minus One is the most boring combination of favorite movies that exist. Good movies, boring one note list.
It's not about "variety" it's about which Godzilla films are the "best". It's been proven Godzilla works better as a terrifying monster than as Earth's protector, anyway.
There's nothing at the core of the series that says that he can't be the protector. With Godzilla as the enemy humans have more to do. It's actually easier to make a serious Godzilla movie like that than something more adventureous and fantasy-oriented. Godzilla is beloved so people want to see him as a hero too and it fits the symbolism of his character. Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla is so high on the lists because it's a successful example of pure escapism. If every movie is one note then I don't care how many auteurs are hired it's gonna get stale.
Why are people so mad about mass replying???
If you truly don't understand you need to lurk moar.
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Add GODZILLA WAS BORING IN IT
DUMB c**t
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>KOTM
2014 is one of the best Godzilla movies in the entire franchise
KotM sucks, could barely even stand to skip through it for just the monster parts
GvK was actually pretty decent on rewatch if you only watch Kong/Deaf Girl and Goji stuff, skipping everything with the nog or the stranger things girl or the disgusting fat kiwi kid
shin is just bad
Minus One was excellent
1984
biollante
shin
minus one
>KOTM
>Over GvKG 91, GMK, Final Wars, and even Godzilla vs Kong
>98 better then kotm
explain
2014 being shit does not mean KOTM is not also shit
I'm not a Godzilla expert by any means, but Minus One felt very by the numbers. Those numbers are done very well and I think this movie should be a baseline for future films.
>I feel like those are all issues that 2014 did even worse and without KOTM's highs, though? none of the humans in KOTM were that compelling but I didn't think they were actively boring like the one military guy was almost all the time was spent with in 2014. 2014 also had even worse issues with not being able to see shit and
Having just rewatched them back to back no lol. Personally I'd rather have boring solider who is at least grounded, KOTM is out right cringe inducing and then the submarine crew is just there to spout exposition which kills the pacing of the movie. In regards to the fight scenes the only complaint you give to 2014 is that a lot of it happens in the peripheral of the characters but when fights take center stage you can still make out the action. KOTM just has a billion fricking things going on within the frame at once. It's not even close.
>FOR SURE it had worse human stuff then KOTM and probably even 2014 did
Yes it is worse, but it's really just the stranger things girl story that sucks and at least it feels more like a side quest, rather than being forefront like the other films which makes it tolerable.
*the only complaint you can give to 2014
>it's a "japs remake Godzilla 1954" episode again
>Mfw Godzilla movies will continue to be made and will reach his 100th anniversary.
WTF was his endgame?
Godzilla vs. Destoroyah is almost literally the only good Godzilla movie
That's one hell of a filename.
minus one is really , objectively, the best one . emotionally it makes more sense than shin. shin had some weird ideas about evolution that was sort of cool. but even if minus one is retro st yle i really enjoyed how they show godzilla dealing with the peak of war tech back then; vs gunboat vs mines vs tank vs cruisers vs planes , the old tech look quaint yet you get a feel for the power it can ditch. the whole subtext of postwar cope , real japanese spirit being in participative actions , godzilla as a sign of idk inner turmoil not put to rest at least. all very swell. i am currently watching it for the second time and its a pirated cam lel. will probably watch it a couple more times when i have better copy.
>live in the middle of fricking NOWHERE and I'd have to drive like 8 hours to watch it
why even live
i used to watch movies on pirated satellite dish, often with some static so watching a cam is no big deal to me. i project it on my whole wall with big ass sound , right now, and i dig it. grainy grunge shit adds to the experience in some movies
Is there even a decent cam of it? I've only found the ones with fricken hindi advertisements plastered all over them
not really. watched it once with good subs but with funni Black popping up once or twice to sell online casino bs. and the otehr one is some edit of similar shit but the subtitles are basically absent, translated by a potato brain who just do a 1/10th of the job. full of weird semi transparent shit to erase ads too. so in short no , no decent cams... but i got the story from the first one and the better images from the second one. i'll watch it a few more times so i don't mind good enough for now, and comfy.
where the frick do you live thats 8 hours away from a theater. that sounds rough anon, do you want to move? what do you like about being in the middle of nowhere?
anyway i hope you get to see minus one, i doubt itll be too long before its streaming
KOTM does not belong on that list. The rest are kino though
> Godzilla vs Biollante
> Gamera 3 - Revenge of Irys
> Gamera 2 - Advent of Legion
> Godzilla 1985 (American version specifically)
gap
> Godzilla vs Destroyah
> Godzilla 2000 (American version specifically)
small gap (order not exact after this point)
> Terror of MechaGodzilla
> Gojira / Godzilla King of the Monsters (54)
> Godzilla King of the Monsters (19)
> Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla 2
> Mothra vs Godzilla / Godzilla vs The Thing
> GMK (ranking very unclear at this point, used to be above destroyah)
Love Gidhora design!!
Im not into Godzilla verse... why he is called "king" gidhora? He is a fricking jobber...
>He is a fricking jobber
He is stronger than Godzilla
when can i pirate minus one? i never got a chance to see it.
>pirate minus one
You shouldn't do it
I will literally have to. Japan don't release movies internationally, until maybe years later.
kind of unrelated but where's a good place to buy high-quality posters? I'm in EU.
None of these are Terror of MechaGodzilla
After all the shitty 70's movies, based Ishiro Honda and Akira Ifukube came back to show those frickers how it's done. Godzilla's intro in Terror of Mechagodzilla is one of my favorites in the series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla_Minus_One
>Multiple sources reported that the film's budget was $15 million,[d] (roughly ¥2.2 billion),[51][52] however, Yamazaki indicated at the 2023 Tokyo Comic Con that the budget was in fact less than that, saying "I wish it were that much".[3] Beforehand, Yamazaki also denied that the budget was ¥1 billion, claiming that it cost much more.[53]
Are we sure his comic con statement meant the budget was less then 15m, rather then him actually saying it was more ("I wish it only cost that much")? That would make more sense with the second statement here
1 billion yen is still only just over seven million dollars.
Bet is that it was 10 Million USD, 11 tops.
Is anybody else a fan of Godzilla as a concept, but not really enjoy many of the movies?
As a kid im the 90s I had that Godzilla Compendium book. The monsters all looked so badass, the plots were neat, and the Japanese posters looked awesome as frick. But the actual movies... but outside of the original mnd more recently Minus One and Kotm2019, I just can't get into the movies. They're just boring and/or the monster fights look like dogshit.
There is an extreeeeeeeeemely loyal fanbase for all the rubber suit bullshit. I'm talking loyal to the emperor loyal and love of those films. Yes, besides Minus One, most Godzilla films are just silly bullshit.
>forgetting shin
Oh right Shin too.
Anon you should watch Shin Godzilla.
I couldn't watch for many years and when I finally did they lived up to the expectations. Although especially now that normies are catching on that Godzilla is the most varied movie franchise also in terms of tone you get a lot of tourists who are in it only for that one particular take not the genre
Is there a translation of the novelization yet?
For Minus One or the original? The original 1954 novelization and Raids Again got a translation in one book a while ago.
minus one
>The original 1954 novelization and Raids Again got a translation in one book a while ago.
Just read the Kindle sample of the '54 novelization and it's very well-written, gonna be buying physical copies of both of those.
I remember when I was a kid, sometimes I would daydream before sleeping that Godzilla would appear over the horizon, and then people would run and evacuate. And then I would ride a bike to the local arcarde, and play vidya gaems all day long since I'm the only one left in town. Jeebus daist what was I thinking?
Can any weebs explain to my why every time Noriko explained akiko wasn't her kid, or that she/koichi explained they weren't married, everybody presemt got stunned and uncomfortable?
Did Japan have taboos against people who aren't related by blood adopting or people who weren't formally married living together, or something?
If the film had been in the same time period but set in the US it would have been the same. There used to be order in the world that was thousands of years old and worked to keep the species going. Then israeli marxist subversion propelled their death cult to power and everyone is dying now.
>movie goes out of it's way to show how caring for one another even when not connected by blood is a good thing
>IT'S ALL A WOKE israelite MARXIST CONSPIRACY
lol what a homosexual. I was talking about the expectation that a man, a woman and a kid together was assumed to be a traditional family unit with people genuinely surprised when it's not.
It will beat Shin Godzilla.
So many good godzilla films are sequels? I don't want to watch 14 movies to get context for this...
You don't NEED to see any Godzilla movie to "get" another Godzilla movie even with heisei which has more a throughline than any other era.
>kotm
FTFY
Perfection
Replace king of the monsters with gmk or destroyah
>the only cinema near me decides it is going to show Minus One after all
>theres only 3 showings
>one is at 8pm on new year's eve
>the others are during the day on weekdays
i am going to become the joker.
You're free to disagree
I'd have to break your jaw otherwise.
We will sink this Godzilla thread with the power of Bump Limit.
Replace KotM with Final Wars then, yes. YEAH I SAID IT
What's the best Anguirus kino?
Godzilla vs Gigan 1972
>King of the Monsters
>No Giant monsters all out attack
Really, Black person? Really?
What's so great about it that it deserves to be in top 4? I don't even think Shin Godzilla deserves it and it's a waste if top 4 are all the same type of movies.
also I’m trans btw
Frick off, tourist.
I agree troony tourists like
need to frick off
I really like Kaneko's visual style. The main characters are good, the plot is unique and a breath of fresh air imo, it has Mothra, and I find the ending emotional.