And completely smoked Hollywood shit with $200+ million budgets. Toho has made a movie with great characters who you genuinely feel emotions for. Sure it's not perfect and the effects are not $200m level but you can't even care about that because the movie has so much SOVL.
How will they ever recover from such disgrace? Will hollywood take the honorable path and commit seppuku for filing so hard?
Was that shit on her neck at the end turning her into a sexy lady Godzilla? Asking for a horny fren.
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I need the torrent to hurry up and drop so I can screencap that shot where Gozilla is admiring the mushroom cloud he created over Ginza and use it for a desktop wallpaper.
You are gonna wait a while dude japanese theatrical releases have about a 6-12 home release window. For Shin Godzilla it was about 8 months before the torrent dropped, hell its been over a year and there still there is no The First Slam Dunk torrent (or legal home release either)
>You are gonna wait a while dude
It's just #Godzillalife.
What?
Hag
I'd let her Millie my Bobby Brown, if you get my drift.
The first real Godzilla since 2004, Sorry Evagays
>tfw have to drive 1 hour if I want to see this in a theater
my city played shin godzilla so I don't know why they're not playing this
it's worth it
rip
>My local Imax theater isn't even playing it, have to see it in a regular theater instead
Check showtimes for Tuesday and Wednesday. I watched it in Imax yesterday at my amc, now it's off the Imax screen today, and they're bringing it back for like two or three days next week. So fricking gay. No one cares about napoleon or whatever the frick else they've got playing. But yeah check different days, it's absolutely worth waiting for Imax.
Not him but I'm fricking thrilled there's more than one showing. I was expecting one day, one showtime. Now there's no chance I'm gonna miss it and I can see it again if I want.
just go dude, that's childs play compared to me having to drive three hours one way to play in a card tournament
Really? Because the CG looks like shit.
So does the $200 million+ CG in every Hollywood movie.
It doesn't though. His automic breath sequence at Ginza was probably one of the top 3 greatest moments I've ever experienced in a theater.
The green screen is glaringly obvious in every scene it's used (there's a lot of them)
>glaringly obvious
Not really, and I'm a massive green screen hater and critic. It was seamless
>automic
sorry, meant atomic. please forgive me, pedant of Cinemaphile
It gave us the giant explosion Openheimer couldn't be assed to do.
Wish we still got practical Godzilla movies. The Millennium era proves it could work.
It was great. Good, simple characters, and a straightforward plot. It displayed characters with genuine moments of regret, repentance, honor, forgiveness, and courage. All but unexpected from me for a 'Monster' movie.
The whole sea mine/Takao sequence was top kino
Gonna need a bigger boat
I've been closing my eyes when I see the clips of it because I don't want to be too spoiled because that scene looks terrifying as frick.
In the age of meta-modernism it's refreshing seeing such a simple film. Same feeling from Top Gun: Maverick
Man. I know Godzilla's always had a temper but he looks especially pissed off here
I just watched Double Toasted's review and they highlighted that.
>this is the first time Godzilla has scared the shit out of me
>oh like with those dead eyes
>dead, no they're full of rage and hatred
>brings up pic
>OH DAMN
So maybe this Godzilla wants revenge after all. I heard he doesn't receive the focus so you don't even know what he's after like in most movies where he's either a sympathetic victim or whose motivation is stated like in GMK.
Yeah I dunno, they said that humans don't do anything to piss him off in this movie, that he's just a fricking butthole. Interested to see how that pans out.
We see Godzilla's pre-mutated form
It's not an iguana, is it?
A dinosaur.
He's allegorical for the battle protag-kun is still fighting with his conscience. 1954 Godzilla is more sympathetic based on the subtext of that movie, but this Godzilla has motivations. He was still inadvertently mutated by human actions, and humans attacked him first in the opening Odo Island sequence. One of the things that the movie did right was that it didn't beat the audience over the head with exposition about why Godzilla is doing what he's doing. It left it somewhat ambiguous or up to interpretation. Different people might see Godzilla as a victim seeking revenge or as a purely malevolent entity.
This is a nice contrast to the blandness of Legendary and the soulless abomination that was Shin
>Double Toasted's
Thats your problem, those guys were shocked Godzilla wasnt literally a superhero and couldnt stop going "this is too much, he is too evil"
I mean, in ither movies he is waaaay more of an butthole
They have normie takes but they make me laugh.
He's a fricking c**t in this film.
One thing I loved right off the bat is that they just show him right away. None of that "dood Jaws" bullshit nah just right away five minutes into the film the fricker shows up in the scariest jump scare I've had in ages.
>just right away five minutes into the film the fricker shows up in the scariest jump scare I've had in ages.
Frick I can't wait.
>He's a fricking c**t in this film.
I like that he wasn't just a force of nature like a hurricane or something, but more akin to the actual war and nuke he was originally a metaphor for. He's deliberate, focused, and unrelenting. He brings massive destruction but not with the same feeling of an earthquake where it's natural and not really something you can prepare for, but rather a force beyond them who's bringing down the fury after being provoked. The nuke set him off and made it clear he wasn't going to stop until he'd made that whole territory his, he's undeniably the villain of the movie and has his own motives and desires. He's not a flood, he's a one lizard war and they're simply outmatched for the majority of the movie, coupled with his regeneration that seems to replace and undo any small victories they make before he brings down the fury once more.
I feel like he was GMK's Godzilla done right.
This image is disturbing me. Why.
It's all in the eyes.
I like how they've been messing with Godzilla's eyes for that scary effect
GMK:
>pure white, hatred, for Americans it makes them think of Evil Dead
Shin:
>that unsettling scared horse stare
Minus One:
>frick he's pissed
Minus has human eyes
He has the "I was a POW that was stripped of all my humanity through mutation and genetic experiments" stare
I think it's supposed to be unsettling, anon-kun. The movie was actually pretty scary and pushed the limits of PG-13 creature violence.
Awww he's smiling!
Felt pure just like Avatar 2, Suzume, and even Top Gun Maverick (although maverick had your typical American single mom cringe, which this film thankfully sidestepped). Just love that it makes no effort to pander to millennial American children of divorce, which seems to be the case with 99.9% of media these days. And the happy ending, and the fact that everyone cares about each other, and that the filmmakers didn't buy into the bullshit robotic autistic algebra of "if your film is going to have a meaningful input then it needs to have a ton of misery porn suffering as the input" that so many homosexual filmmakers and japs use these days.
No homosexual, things can just all work out, and the audience loves asspulls that result in an earned and happy ending. Hilarious how I saw some cuck porn addicted, ntr-fried-brained homosexuals complaining about the fact that akiko wasn't noriko's bastard child. Not everything needs to be a fingerwagging lesson or a fricking tryhard depressing metaphor for muh cucked reality, and this film is kino for getting that. Genuinely didn't expect this level of earnest, uncompromising, and fulfilling kino from japs. I was checked out until the telegram got delivered and then I literally sat forward in my seat as the final battle began and the Godzilla theme started playing while they circled Goji with the ships. And then it actually delivered, top notch ending, more films need to be like this.
Lastly, on top of all that, it ALSO had the best Godzilla action and spectacle ever. The only real flaw is the acting but none of that matters because of how soulful it is.
This movie had a lot of asspulls, but like you said, it's not as if Godzilla movies are supposed to be realistic. In fact a major emotional scene is protag-kun questioning if anything happening is even real or if he's actually already dead on Odo Island and just hallucinating. The biggest asspull was Koichi somehow finding Noriko in the Ginza panic during Godzilla's rampage.
>saved this image in 2016
>actually happening now
jewlywood eternally btfo.
>My slop is better than your slop
If Minus One was made by Hollywood, then protag-kun would have been simping for a single mom of a half-American baby instead of a pure virgin who rescued an orphan. The movie also would have been full of many more memberberries, like the Doc character being named Serizawa and the plan to defeat Godzilla being the Oxygen Destroyer again.
The train munching scene is the only memberberry I can think of in minus one.
There's also the reporters on the roof
I wouldn't count the music as a memberberry as its quite common for a franchise to use the same music over and over.
Who's the hot hebe.
Godzilla's GF.
Odo Island was another callback to 1954, as well as the destruction of the Nippon Gekijo Theatre (where Godzilla originally premiered) and the "deadly broadcast" scene. Some of the shots in the post-destruction montage were homages to 1954, such as the man using the Geiger counter. The Ifukube themes were also memberberries, although they were modern remasters rather than the original monophonic recordings used in Shin Godzilla.
I thought I had heard they re-orchestrated everything for Shin Godzilla, too.
No all the Ifukube musical cues in Shin were ripped from classic Toho movies like King Kong vs Godzilla and The Battle in Outer Space.
I remember reading the opposite, though yeah they sound mono as frick in the movie.
For Minus one, I'll take for granted they were re-orchestrated, but it sounds like the same clips they dusted off in the end of Destroyer.
Yeah this movie remastered the end themes from Godzilla vs Destoroyah and Godzilla vs King Ghidorah as well as the "Fury of Godzilla" motif that was used in Mothra vs Godzilla.
This.
>they don't try to subvert your expectations with the ejector seat
>the cut back to the engineer
>"live"
It was so fricking kino
Three big Godzilla things coming the same week. This franchise is like the biggest winner of all time. It may not be as huge as Star Wars or Marvel but that only means we get fewer hangers-on. Oh, a Godzilla movie is called a masterpiece? We get those a lot no big deal.
whats the 3rd thing?
Minus Open opens in many countries, Monarch episode 4 and GxK trailer.
Minus One gets perfect revies, Monarch is fine I still don't know how to feel about the last thing. I don't really trust Wingard.
oh the trailer for fatzilla's new adventure
meh
>Godzilla takes a backseat in GVK: new empire.
Garbage already.
Not surprising since they wanna make Kong the face of the Monsterverse in the event the rumors of Toho wanting out is true. Especially those design leaks are what is implying.
This might be true but the director is a Kong fanboy as well.
Wingard is a Godzilla fanboy.
Maybe he used to be. GVK made it obvious who he wanted the audience to root for and he kept talking about Kong being like Rocky or John McClane and he didn't say shit about Godzilla because he was so disinterested in him.
It seems you are correct. I feel like I have been Mandela'd. I could have sworn I read he liked Kong better. I remember feeling kinda annoyed ad GvK because it seemed like they were putting Kong above Godzilla.
As a kid he prefered Godzilla but during the making of GVK he fell in love with Kong so much he basically gave him everything leaving Godzilla with a marginal role of someone the audience roots against.
He said that a monke was easier for the audience to relate to than Godzilla, and it's better from a storytelling perspective to follow the underdog which was obviously Kong. He doesn't think Godzilla is a villain, and actually made the VFX team tone down the violence when Godzilla defeats Kong since he didn't want the audience to think Godzilla was cruel.
I wonder if he was surprised to see that Godzilla still had a bigger fanbase. I'm starting to think his goal was to give Kong all the attention and sympathy to help him catch up.
>I remember feeling kinda annoyed ad GvK because it seemed like they were putting Kong above Godzilla.
Probably WB to blame and also the fact Kong SI did better than Godzilla KOTM in box office revenue. Also another factor is apparently Universal is charging Kongs license harder than Godzilla on Toho's end.
The reason Kong gets used a lot is because the previous Legendary movies set up Godzilla as being distant and "a force of nature" but they wanted to have a monster interact with the characters during the human plot so it would be less boring. It would be weird for Legendary Godzilla to be talk to little girls or whatever they're having Kong do.
>to be talk
*talking
They dropped the force of nature angle after 2014. Or arguably during the production of G14. He's quite like Kong in spirit he just doesn't make silly faces as often as Kong. It's actually getting a little tiresome how sappy they're making Kong recently.
He's a Pipeworks fanboy
They're still fun games. It was my introduction to Godzilla back when I was a little kid. I almost got all of the Godzilla films on DvD but an earthquake fricked 99% of the discs unfortunately.
I haven't heard anything like that. We don't know how long they will keep this going. Now that it's obvious they're not losing Godzilla there's no point in phasing out Toho monsters. Kong will be more prominent in GxK because Wingard likes him more apparently and because it's like a two-parter with the previous movie which was a Kong story.
I hate Shin Godzilla's feet, they look wrong.
I like Minus One's chicken feet.
I like Godzilla's feet in general.
The ending when you see Zilla turning into the cute baby shin Godzilla and then you realize minus one means prequel :,)
Kaiju fans seem happy about the movie.
My theater was clapping when the credits rolled.
Mine was too especially after when Koichi's parachute deploys. A lot of clapping and even cheering.
Honestly I can't stand clapping morons and homosexuals who try to turn the kinoplex into a social experience. The smelly autismo next to me was laughing out loud every time Cap made a mild wisecrack, and unzipped his manbag to pull out a pack of Whoppers that he proceeded to crunch loudly during the climax. He also predictably sperged out during the sequences with Ifukube music. Like damn probably own at least $5k worth of Godzilla toys and other merch, but at least I can sit quietly in my seat and watch a movie.
There was this homosexual next to my friend who was talking to himself every time something happened. It was audible and it honestly ruined the the moment of silence during the final battle
so it actually did the human characters well for once? because that's usually a big godzilla pitfall
>for once
You should watch Gojira 1954
and then pull the wiener out of your ass
Yeah it was very well done. One plot point I saw coming from a mile away still made me tear up. even with the less than to shelf acting you will care about these characters. Compare it to legendary shits where I can't even tell you who the characters were at this point and certainly never gave a shit what happened to them.
>because that's usually a big godzilla pitfall
Is it? All my favorite Godzilla movies have great characters.
I'm glad we live in times in which we can admit Godzilla vs. Gigan has an excellent human cast.
Fricking based.
Godzilla vs. Scooby Doo is my favorite Showa movie.
I simply don't believe in coincidences like that.
Based
That movie gets shit on for too much stock footage but I find it to be one of my favorite to rewatch because of the human cast and them being outside of the usual scientist/government official circles.
>govt just hands over cases of military explosives to some random hippies to go blow up the Godzilla-shaped command center of intergalactic wienerroach aliums.
SOVL.
Brainlets who just want to see big monsters smash stuff don't realize that all the best Godzilla movies also have the best human stories. Invasion of Astro-Monster is one of the greatest movies in the franchise, but it has the least amount of Godzilla screentime out of any of them.
Shame that actor got JUST'd hard
He literally unalived himself because Kumi Mizuno wouldn't love him.
That sideways pussy will mess a motherfricker up yo.
The human characters are the best part DESPITE the bad acting AND the fact that it has some of the best Godzilla stuff ever put to film. It's just that sincere and fulfilling.
>For once
Japanese Godzilla movies are about humans and human organisation. You're think of American slop. Shin Godzilla is a great recent example.
Its fricking good
okay but how is Monarch?
insufferable women and mary sue Black person magically living in Tokyo is all you need to know. It's trash.
Surprisingly good but it's just starting. We're not even into Kurt's favorite episodes yet. That's in two weeks.
lol this gay again. I got to talking to people before Minus One last night. Out of 15 or so people only one had anything good to say about monarch slop and it basically boiled down to 5 minutes of kaiju action is good even if it's wrapped in 50 minutes of shitty characters and writing.
Meds.Now. Take satisfaction from having an original take or something.
>an original take
STRONG SHEBOON SMART SHEBOON SAVE ALL NIPPON WITH GLORIOUS SHEBOON POWERS
lol.lmao even.
Ok a very detailed review not unhinged at all. What percentage of the public shares your strange obsessions you think?
looking at how the business of israelitelywood is going in current year I'd say A LOT.
Ok you can watch your outrage youtubers hatewatching Disney cartoons or something Godzilla is far above that bullshit content.
>t. thinks I need anyone to tell me what my opinion is about anything
Sounds like projection to me.
Black people
What is Russell doing? Wasting his years. Make a Plisskin series if he needs series work to be for Goldie's heads
>What is Russell doing?
Cashing easy checks and getting his son a paying gig. I don't blame him for taking their money to attempt to give their garbage product some legitimacy with audiences.
He's a fan of the genre. I don't know about Wyatt but they both liked the idea of playing the same character. And they'reboth really good I was afraid this will be one of those boring roles where they give him lines to say but no, he's really good. But not like MacReady or Snake. He's more like a laid back officer although at the beginning Wyatt plays him as a straight edge boy scout.
Then he should have made an r-rated Kurt vs Kaiju kino. This is like agreeing to star in a nonsupes Marvel show.
Legendary has left so much money on the table in the US. Horrendous designs. Cardboard characters. No dizzying camera angles. No weight or gravity. Makes me ill.
It's an adventure show where we travel from place to place. Plus a genuinely interesting scene of Godzilla getting nuked in 1954 that's really in spirit of the original though it was memed pretty heavilly. The show feels older than it is somehow. I'm just glad they didn't waste the Russells. They carry the entire cast. Although I like the entire 50s crew. The modern crew is super mediocre especially after they got rid of the pilot guy.
Yeah it was incredible. Definitely the best IMAX experience I've ever had, and I really enjoyed GvK in IMAX. The entire Ginza destruction sequence in particular was jaw-dropping, since it was essentially a 2023 remake of the same scene from the 1954 movie. I actually got chills from it. This is was definitely the most intense and violent Godzilla movie by far. It didn't hold back on forcing the audience to witness the power and fury of Godzilla. I also enjoyed the human story even though it became quite formulaic and predictable after a certain point. It was very "Japanesey" and maintained an appropriate level of gravitas that American VFX movies haven't had for the past decade at least.
That thing at the end was just a teaser to leave things open to audience interpretation. Toho does this in every movie where Godzilla is "defeated" since they have a rule that Godzilla can't be allowed to actually die without reemerging somehow outside of the 1954 original movie. Personally I think it may have been Godzilla cells or a visual indication that she was a ghost or hallucination of protag-kun.
>The entire Ginza destruction sequence in particular was jaw-dropping
It was magical when the music hit.
>Definitely the best IMAX experience I've ever had
I hadn't been in a theater since Quantum of Solace and hadn't seen an IMAX movie in over 20years. I'm pretty happy with my Godzilla experience last night. I can't imagine going to see any US made slop though. I can't even imagine what hollywood would have to do to get my confidence back that their product is worth spending money on.
>mfw the classic theme starts playing as Godzilla is absolutely fricking up Ginza
that's right around when my edible kicked in; I was floating in my seat
I was lukewarm with the ending and wasn't sure how I felt about it. But considering the director was inspired by GMK as well as the ending for OG 1954 and Shin Godzilla, I'm starting to open more to it. It feels more like there could be another godzilla in the future, but humanity proven itself it can live and fight through. It makes sense because Minus One took the misanthropy out of the original film.
Some of the clips I've seen look a bit cartoonish. When he uproots a slab of road and a crowd of people fly up and hang in the air for a second it just looks a bit goofy. I think like Shin Godzilla Japs can't help but impose some anime sensibilities when they have full control with CGI.
The only anime sensibilities in this movie were in the human story. They went out of the way to keep the female protag a pure waifu (an American movie would have never done that). The moralization and sappy ending were very anime-like and heavy-handed that anyone could see coming from a mile away. It was still a good story, but I will say that even the Showa movies tended to have more bittersweet endings than this one. This movie ended in a way so that the audience wouldn't feel any regrets for protag-kun.
This is why this film is the best of them all. Midwits that desperately want their films to make them feel like they're wearing big boy pants are a cancer and it's always a relief when a film comes out that doesn't cater to these clamoring manchildren.
The captain and professor were good side characters. Even the cranky lady in the village had some depth
I loved the professor.
I haven't seen the movie yet but am I wrong for thinking he's kind of a nod to Dr. Yamane?
Looked like his look was inspired by Kayama.
The captain was such a bro
I'm glad he'll get his wish of seeing shikishima and noriko as a happy family in the end
It's a Japanese thing. They make a better product for a fraction of the budget
Now quiet in the theater
or it's gonna get Tragic.
We're bout to get taken
to a dream world of Magic
>Chinese movie in a Chinese theater
Now that's kino
> Chinese movie
That isn’t the monsterverse
I really liked Shin Godzilla but never watched it in the theatre, I hope they release this one in my country, also hoping for the Miyasaki movie but where I live they dont give a shit about japanese stuff unless it is some super popular anime movie.
I'm under impression that Minus One wants to imitate the themese of the original but can't because it's not 1954 so it won't be as fresh and meaningful and it's mostly just a dark disaster film.
You should go see it. It's a very intimate film about people who have been through the horror of a war coming to grips with continuing the struggle for each other and future generations. It's wholesome and hopeful in a way that israelitelywood simply refuses to do in current year.
It's the diametric opposite to israelite demoralization propaganda.
>Minus One wants to imitate the themese of the original
Yes but it's not a straight-up 1:1 remake.
>it's not 1954 so it won't be as fresh and meaningful and it's mostly just a dark disaster film.
It's formulaic like most Godzilla movies, but it's still very well done. It's the first Godzilla period piece that is set in the postwar occupation era, since every other movie is set in the present day or near future.
Don't go watch it. Just stay on Cinemaphile and farm (you)s, it's what cucked gays like you are meant to do.
Oh shit, spoilers.
sorry, deleted
>Mexico will get the premiere on december 28
They need to fill the SW gap i guess
I thought all the Mexicans were inside the US now.
We only send our worst.
I dunno those beaners that did my roof were an unstoppable force of nature for 8hrs straight.
I genuinely loved that every major character, no matter how big or small, had a character arc. We're talking all the way down to a one off character from the start who doesn't even show up until the final act has a full character arc.
Interesting that they kept the idea that fighting in the war wasn't bad, because if they didn't fight they'd just get stomped by a monster making it their territory, but instead took to task the ones thinking their lives were cheap when things could have easily been changed to bring more of them home.
Yeah it was a very heartwarming and uplifting humanist story that took itself and the subject matter seriously. The ending was much sappier than 1954 and some of the other older entries, but the movie itself struck a good balance of scariness, suspense, and positivity. It's one of the few Godzilla movies I would consider a "masterpiece" that is also highly accessible and satisfying to general audiences.
I'm finna go see it this Friday with my wife in a theater with reclining leather seats. It's in an up scale area with few blacks.
>ready for kino
The happily ever after ending is why this film will go down as an all-timer, regardless of whatever "objective" problems anyone might manage to point out in it. More films need to cater to normal people's desire for pure things, things that aren't desperately and sadomasochistically poisoned with cringe shit that no one wants to see under the false pretense of "maturity".
This film proves that TDKR has the greatest ending in film history and any film that follows in its footsteps will be confirmed kino that makes soulless autistic homosexuals like mauler cry and shit their pants while normal people with families will absolutely love it.
Literally only one theatre in my city is playing its premiere tomorrow and im gonna go see it. Gojibros im so fricking hyped
Enjoy, anon. Seeing it again this weekend.
Had to reschedule for Sunday night but im still hyped as frick. Kaijubros eating good lately
>mfw I live in a third world shithole where the cinemas only put on marvelslop and nothing else
TFW you waiting for a torrent for months and then israelites start WWIII and you die knowing you will never see the last Godzilla movie ever made.
>the board is full of homosexuals that WILLINGLY spoil the film for themselves IN DETAIL
I've cut myself off but I already knew about Shin's last shot before seeing it and it was still a great experience, especially hearing people whisper "what the frick" behind me.
Is he moronic?
Yeah he is, but he's a gameragay. This was easily one of the most thoughtful zilla movies ever made, and not in a psuedo 3deep5me way like the anime trilogy. It also didn't feel like it was trying to beat you over the head with a message like Godzilla vs Hedorah or Shin Godzilla.
Hedorah's insane message beating is part of the charm and it's still the best Godzilla movie
Probably just a westoid that was hoping noriko would be a huge prostitute and that the protag would die in the end because he's been conditioned by autistic youtube "formula" essays
My firth thought on hearing how the movie is is that it's a damned missed opportunity to not have the movie be political when it's the only Godzilla movie that takes place in the 40's during American occupation. But I'll reserve judgment for when I see it.
As well you should, it works so much better not being political at all. Instead it's focus is squarely on the people living in the post war trying to put their lives back together while Godzilla threatens to tear it all apart. Nobody blames the US for everything, and nobody gives speeches about oppression or shit like that and instead its all about how they need to come together, learn from the past, and live.
Goddamn it, live.
Well if you basically a remake a movie that featured themes ripped straight from the headlines of course it won't be as relevant when you do it again 70 years later. But I know this guy he thought 1956 Rodan was a simple monster movie with no message which sucked.
Even though Rodan has a message as well it's just not the most important thing about it.
>Rodan has a message
It does? What is it? Unless you mean the undying love thing at the end. I think it's brilliant because it starts off as a murder mystery, turns into a horror creature feature, and then a proper kaiju movie, with dogfights.
Japanese people dig too deep into the depth os the Earth like Dwarves in Moria.
They also mention global warming but I don't know if it's only the English dub version. Which I've never seen but I'm looking up the transcript right now.
They do actually and name mining of the ore as the cause which for 1956 this has to be one of the earliest examples. Probably because people at Toho especially Honda loved reading science magazines looking for inspiration.
That's kinda basic monster-movie message, really.
And The Mysterians is against imperialism or something. Only Godzilla was really heavy in themes the rest was far more focused on escapism.
The big message of Mysterians is don't you dare get horny for Earth women.
There actually are political elements in the background that explain why the USA is letting Japan fend for itself, but it's not an America-bashing movie if that's what you were wanting. It's more critical of the Japanese government and ethos at the time than it is of the Americans.
I wasn't wanting American-bashing, but at least an exploration of what the US and Japan's relationship was going to be like after the end of the war. But if it sounds like it's at least there in part with America warning Japan of Godzilla and saying "good luck," then that can be good enough for me.
>to not have the movie be political
Oh yeah the whining, crying, and virtue signaling from the same soulless losers that would enact the same atrocities if they had the upper hand was sorely missed.
What shirts did you guys wear?
A normal button down because I'm not a fricking smelly manchild that has to wear his likes on his clothing.
Hey frick you I usually dress conservatively but I do have one crazy Godzilla shirt and I wore that fricker with a sportcoat last night. Nobody came up to me and said "hey Black person homosexual" to me though.
>Nobody came up to me and said "hey Black person homosexual"
They were thinking it, though.
You must have missed all the threads where I posted that pic and asked anyone who saw me in it to come up to me and say "hey Black person homosexual" to me. I was looking for Cinemaphile IRL but none of you frickers are real human beans.
I'm just saying, anon, expressing yourself blatantly like that is cringe. If you don't care what other people think then why are you wearing it?
Because it amuses me. That's literally why I do 90% of the shit I do. I probably don't need 2 revolvers so why do I carry two revolvers? It amuses me.
Do you really carry two revolvers? Could come in useful.
Well I guess I won't call you a Black person homosexual.
>that tape
sweaty palm ass mf
It's hot in the dirty south bro.
>PoV: That one guys who gave it a negative review rn.
have you thought of not being a homosexual for once?
It's hard, even though I like women I do think about wieners a lot.
I wore my Godzilla sukajan that I only bring out once a year for Godzilla's birthday.
I kneel.
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One 300lb sperg at my theater showed up in a full suit and it didn't look like he wore it for work as it wasn't tailored properly.
Godzilla has always been better than hollyjew. This is only news to normalgays.
everything since 2014 has been disappointing, and even that one deserves a lot of the criticism it gets
Shin was fricking dogshit besides the laser show
and yet, still want to see Minus One
I liked Shin, but it's satirical and not a very approachable or rewatchable movie unless you do your homework before going into it. It's also quite boring at times. The best part is the atomic breath sequence which is rather short. Minus One is much more satisfying and easy to understand for a broader audience whereas Shin probably filters 90% of gaijin who don't understand the context of it.
i think a lot of people understand that Shin was a satire of bureaucratic incompetence in handling the Fukushima disaster, but that doesn't make a good movie
not this week, thankfully
>i think a lot of people understand that Shin was a satire of bureaucratic incompetence in handling the Fukushima disaster
Normalgays outside of Japan don't know/care about that.
>but that doesn't make a good movie
I think it's good, but the downtime between Godzilla's first appearance and the Fourth Form's reemergence is legitimately hard to sit through. Minus One handles the pacing and suspense much better.
Really? It was easy for me to go through even during the downtime but the third act drags on after Godzilla goes into his slumber after his atomic ray scene.
I re-watched Shin last month and it's still pitch perfect. Nice gif.
The best part about Shin is the grotesque factor. There was a deleted scene which showed pieces of Godzilla's flesh falling off and sprouting fangs and eyes that darted around
I also feel like "bureaucratic incompetence in the face of a huge disaster" is more universal then you think.
universally understood
not universally appreciated as the main driving force in a Godzilla movie
Yeah tbh I got the satirical aspects but I didn't find them super engaging, and the Godzilla parts were over too quick for my liking. Not terrible but kinda overhyped, I'm sure it's much more interesting if you're actually Japanese.
Am I the only one who keeps seeing the ad at the bottom of the page and thinking it's the nerdy girl from Shin?
None of us see ads at all ever because we're not normie noobs like you. We're l33t hackers with adblockers.
I'd take it as a sign of endearment from an anon. Also it outs you as not being a fricking cuck who's scared to say Black person homosexual in public.
And here we have the one contrarian with absolute shit takes
Not giving that homosexual a view. Gimme the TLDR.
Humans boring, Plot is smelly, and Godzilla isn't on screen enough.
He expected more guips and a product similar to burgerzilla
Shut the frick up you sound like a tourist like he does. "omg guys this is the REAL Godzilla" it's such an obvious telltale sign of a normie.
Not him but I roll my eyes when literally every single review says this.
People are always making fun of weird tribalist people who use one thing to hate on another as if they weren't both part of the same franchise and as if Godzilla wasn't a versatile series that can be done seriously and dark or be more light-hearted fun and monster battles.
A tourist from where exactly? If anything more inclined to believe your the reviewer gay in question.
>omg guys this is the REAL Godzilla" it's such an obvious telltale sign of a normie.
Except it actually is since it's Toho Made.
People parrot that "oh, this is how it's supposed to be done" as if Toho are the same people from 1954 and is they aren't capable of making meciocre movies like Final Wars and Tokyo SOS.
Okay I can get Final Wars, but Tokyo SoS was pretty comfy. This just bait now. Course best film that era was GMK.
I'm being a little harsh because I do have a soft spot for Tokyo SOS but it's a fanboy movie and honestly when I first saw it it was bland af. Final Wars is great moron fun but I would never hold it up as a great Godzilla movie. GMK and Shin are the only recent "great" Godzilla movies.
>but it's a fanboy movie
Pretty sure most Godzilla films apply to that trope except maybe Godzilla Revenge, Godzilla vs Megauirus, and Godzilla vs Spacegodzilla (love his design, but yeah that movie was a rushed mess.)
I'm not sure of your criteria, but I mean that it's a modern movie made by an obvious Godzilla fan and the big emotional moments only have impact to people that have a love for Godzilla, and it's basically just the 60's Mothra vs. Godzilla all over again, but now with Mechagodzilla.
Godzilla as a franchise is weird when it comes to the community and the kind of movies. A lot of people prefer the Showa silliness during the late 60s and early 70s while others enjoy the campy sci-fi-ish feel of the Heisei era. Toho was definitely on damage control during the millennium era since a lot of the movies weren't doing well financially with Godzilla Final Wars.
>GMK
It's a well-made movie, but very mean-spirited and not as good at conveying its message as Minus One. Godzilla 2000 is the only Millennium movie with a high level of ethos.
>ethos
Okay, you're gonna need to explain. I love Godzilla 2000, it's a quintessential Godzilla movie, but basic at its core.
G2K is the only Millennium movie where the protagonist and antagonist debate each other on the ethics of preserving Godzilla vs killing him. The other Millennium movies are just basic sci-fi/fantasy action flicks and military wankfests.
Hmm I'll give you that, though I don't feel it's a big deal in the grand scheme of the movie.
I like that Akane in Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla ended up being her own thing (i.e. a fricking sad sack) instead of just another crazy motherfricker obsessed with getting revenge on an animal.
Akane doing her "nobody loves me" monologue while being a literal pin-up bikini model irl always makes me kek.
Hey, I mean, everybody gets sad now and again.
Man, I'm sad I didn't get to go to G-fest this year, she came and if I was there, I would have as well.
Godzilla 2000 is okay. It just felt a bit too safe which guess make sense since this was a damage control movie to counter RE Godzilla 1998.
>Godzilla 2000
This is my #1 all time favorite Godzilla movie.
I'm sorry.
I dunno why you would be.
Cute picture. Context?
lol prepare your anus.
Man, Japan is weird.
That's why it's so interesting.
One of the most based Godzilla scenes ever and a real human bean.
>bro barely took one puff of his cig
Always annoys me.
I don't even smoke any more and that shit annoys me. Worse they'll have some character pull out a cigarette and then not light it for whatever reason and they throw away a perfectly intact cigarette like it's a butt. #realsmokersknow
There's a scene in Tokyo SOS where Chujo is being questioned by the important government people who's faces we don't see and one of them stubs out a cigarette that's only halfway done. I was screaming.
>Final Wars and Tokyo SOS.
Enjoyed both of these.
>mediocre movies like Final Wars and Tokyo SOS
They're both great though.
I enjoy them but I'm not going to call them need-to-see Godzilla movies (maybe 2000 as just a vanilla G experience). My recommendations for a non-fan would be GMK and then the only other Godzilla movie before that which is notable is Biollante.
Funny, the original line in the Japanese version is that there's a little bit of all of us in Godzilla. Honesty works better and makes sense in my opinion.
It's all produced or co-produced by Toho. They have to approve every detail. The creator of the Monsterverse is Yoshimitsu Banno and the Monarch show was partially filmed at Toho studios.
They had less to do with the anime trilogy and SP but it was still theirs.
>The creator of the Monsterverse is Yoshimitsu Banno
Aside the first movie which he produced and special thanks credit. I highly doubt he was involved in the road planning for the films made after considering he died before such could be realized.
He's wrong, Banno had money in the Legendary movies because he couldn't get female flying Godzilla vs. Hedorah in 3D to the moron Max™ made, and he was credited as producer.
Modern Toho is not the same as the Toho that made the old Godzilla films. It's been decades, all the people involved died.
It's justified making fun of that reviewer since he hated this but enjoyed the Marvels and other literal low quality MCU slop.
nta but you are the gay here. you should shut the frick up.
Tourist spotted.
Black person spotted
He expected a entertaining MCU tier flick but instead got a serious period post war piece Japanese film that just happened to have a monster in it
He loved the Marvels. That's your TLDR.
>Godzilla Minus Fun
A predictable pun I already used for the name of one of my playlists, with the knowledge it could probably used to trash the film.
>8 minutes in
Holy shit this guy is a moron.
He gave The Marvels a fresh. Think that speaks for itself
How did this chucklefrick get added to the RT consideration? I know modern film critics are fricking idiots but this is pathetic. This is an absolute brainlet with zero concept of film history or general history for that matter. His criticisms of the characters and plot show an absolute ignorance of postwar Japanese mindset and golden age Japanese cinema. Is it really this easy to gain a following on YouTube? Just being some fricking butthole with toys behind you?
so is this a continuation of shin godzilla? I want to see more of those tail mutants that were developing and mutating flesh
No, it's a standalone movie. If you heard it was the same continuity, it was a miscommunication error from some news sources earlier this year
well shit. I enjoy any new godzilla movie but I hope they dont take the spiderman route and just keep remaking and restarting them. evolve the fricker into more frakish things
Shin sequel would be so cool. He was planned to evolve into God himself and build up so much energy he created a mini universe inside his body, with all new creatures spawning from him.
unfortunately no. I dont think Shin is ever getting a sequel, and if it is, its gonna be a non film sequel (tie-in comic or smth).
GMO is just as good if not better than Shin
if you were okay with the googly eyed godzilla larvae thing in Shin you are a homosexual
that thing looked so fricking stupid nothing that came after could save that movie
My 5 year old loves Godzilla. We watch all the old movies together, his favorite being the one with Jet Jaguar and the furry guy lol. Is this an appropriate movie for a 5 year old? Any gore or cursing? Is it subbed or dubbed?
>the furry guy
King Caesar?
Yes, sorry I was too lazy to look up his name.
Ah, ok thanks for the heads up. Last thing I need is month-long nightmares
I haven't seen it but from what I hear, Godzilla is scary as frick in this movie. It will probably give your kid nightmares.
This or so I hear. Godzilla is absolutely fricking ferocious in this new movie. Like Kane Hodder Jason Vorhees levels.
I want to see it very badly. Every theater near me has a moon cricket problem so I probably will need to wait for it to drop.
I went to the early fan event yesterday and I saw a couple of families walk out as the movie progressed. It's definitely not a kid movie
Yeah my bad
No worries from me on the spoilers. Sounds like a perfect movie for me. I might be able to dodge Mooncrickets if I go early during the week. If they have an early showing.
There's no gore or cursing since it's a subtitled Jap movie, but it's a hard PG-13. It's easily the most intense and visceral Godzilla movie since 1954. The horrifying/suspenseful moments and human casualties in Shin Godzilla are laughable compared to Minus One. If you wouldn't show your kid 1954, then I wouldn't show him this one.
Is it weird to think whenever I see Minus One Goji I can't help but think of this suit or the one in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah?
There's a few Japanese curse words but the opening to this movie is a lot for a five year old I would say. Godzilla is horrifying during that scene.
Yeah probably should've spoiler tagged the latter bit.
so Godzilla in (Godzilla - 1) is like goji in GMK?
love when Goji goes back just to kill the little girl in the hospital kek
GMKGoji was such a dick
Yeah GMK Godzilla was a fricking menace and one of few Godzilla films you seem him actively trying to kill everyone he sees and with bloodlust in those non pupil white yes. Guess it's what happens when he's the literal ghost of the 54 godzilla with a side of Japanese war victims be it Nan King and Pearl Harbor.
He's not necessarily a supernatural entity like in GMK, but he's definitely full of malice. In 1954 he's depicted as more of a wounded animal lashing out, but this new Godzilla is like a vengeful spirit haunting the protag.
He's not supernaturally evil, but he is very much pissed off and going right at people. The opening is full on horror movie.
i cant imagine trying to watch a japanese godzilla movie in theaters with a bunch of basketball americans
at least not for the first time
subsequent viewings might actually be enhanced by their raucous buffoonery, though
just go to a nicer theatre.
oh there's no darkies around here
was talking about the other anon worrying about local moon crickets
What do you guys think James Rolfe would feel about Minus One?
I mean he's still alive. He will probably like it. Then repeat his bullshit champagne analogy and something about the action taking place during the day (he's afraid of the night).
James Rolfe is an oddity honestly. He seems to be a really nice and down-to-earth guy, but has this boomer vibe of being disconnected from a lot things. You should see his setup and how he records his AVGN videos. It's so convoluted
also Kong is the first kaiju
paved the way for goji
also, yes, it makes sense for Kong to have more emotional/human connection than Goji
i personally liked how 2014 approached it, where Goji was feared by humans but clearly only really gave shits about the MUTO
>for filing so hard?
YOU FAILED!!
What is the appeal of these movies? What are they about?
I know the whole, Japanese reaction to atomic devestation (literally never happened, the bomb area was fine the very next day) but that isn't interesting in any form or fashion. Is it just about making a bunch of npc dunces happy because the big thing do smash?
Awesome sincere sci-fi nonsense.
If you're coming in with a mindset like that, I don't think you're going to get the appeal no matter how people explain it even with the first film in mind.
This is gonna sound fricked but if you really want to "get it" you are going to have to watch every Godzilla movie in order. It took me 6 weeks the last time I did it. Experiencing all the eras will give you the perspective you need to really appreciate what a unique thing the franchise really is.
I watched it one per day (and others like Rodan or Gorath and so on as well) and it's best if you want to rank them in order. And I spent two months on it and it was great eexcept for the three days I spent watching the anime movies.
>What is the appeal of these movies? What are they about?
Big monster breathe fire and smash shit. If you can't understand the appeal of that, then you're probably a woman or at least a megahomosexual.
>What is the appeal of these movies? What are they about?
damn, i thought the 'movies women will never understand' thing was just a meme
Japan has different budget scales than Hollywood.
They don't have all the union nonsense. They don't have all the tax loopholes that incentivize running up the budget. Their stars command much less ridiculous prices.
Their films cost about what they're supposed to cost.
is it up on streaming/torrent yet?
will be 6 months minimum probably more like 8-10.
>that opening with Godzilla eating people
Holy frick that was kino
Godzilla eating people
Hmm, not sure how I feel about that.
He didn't eat them He tossed them.
>we want the Attack on Titan audience
I thought they never wanted to show Godzilla doing that. Guess they changed their mind.
Not him, but since it's pre-mutated Godzilla I guess it's still kosher.
Was he ever really not a mutant in this movie? I mean him swimming to the surface was enough to kill fish
My bad, I actually haven't seen the movie yet.
You misunderstood, they said he scared those fish to the surface, it's foreshadowing for the finale and how they beat him.
They were specifically called Deep Sea fish you should note. He was bringing them up from deep underwater and causing them to die.
He didn't actually eat them because Toho has a rule that Godzilla is not allowed to be depicted eating people.
spitefully throwing them around. I miss my cat.
Aww. Mine too. I remember catching her tearing the guts out of a lizard once. She stopped killing things close to when she passed.
It's been 18 months since my 16yr old cat died. I still look for that fricker around corners.
Can't wait to shitpost about this after I see it tomorrow. Too bad I don't use Cinemaphile on the weekends.