>Godzilla Minus One isn't preachy unlike Disne-
>Minus One:"NOOOOOOOOOOO WAR IS LE BAD NUKE IS LE BAD NEVER TLUST GOVALMENT YOU MUST RIVE"
Explain
>Godzilla Minus One isn't preachy unlike Disne-
>Godzilla Minus One isn't preachy unlike Disne-
>Minus One:"NOOOOOOOOOOO WAR IS LE BAD NUKE IS LE BAD NEVER TLUST GOVALMENT YOU MUST RIVE"
Explain
>war is bad
ughhhhh too much politics!
>War is actually...le good! Please send more money to Israel!
>nuke is bad
It is, though. The only good thing to come from nuclear weapons is that they're a pretty big deterrent for starting a third World War.
They are also directly responsible for the invention of anime, which has done far more irreparable damage to humankind than a couple of irradiated cities.
>an anti-war message right when Israel is attacking Palestine again?!
>shut it down!
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>Shin: government is le good
>Minus One: government is le bad
Speaks volumes about difference of rate in US.
Minus One is very American mindset
>Shin: government is le good
You didn't even read a summary.
i think shin was criticizing japan's corrupt useless government even if they succeeded at the end
Both movies shit on the Japanese government and the moronic aspects of their culture like dogmatically obeying protocol/seniority and committing sudoku for no reason because people above you in the hierarchy told you to throw your life away.
In Shin, the government is a bureaucratic, incompetent nightmare that can't accomplish a single thing in regards to Godzilla until a task force specifically made of people who can get around the red tape is put together. Even then, there's an overbearing amount of politics both local and international to deal with the whole way through.
Minus One hardly even addresses the Japanese government because it barely fricking exists at the time the film takes place.
>death is le bad
>suicide is le bad
Bravo Nippon
There's multiple questions. First is whether the message comes organically from the plot, or whether it is something artificially forced upon the plot, a bad "political" film is the latter. Second is the question of right values and is subject to audience value judgments. Godzilla Minus One is Christian humanist and life affirming, and therefore liked. Woke is usually obnoxious anti-humanist guilt and blame apportionment and therefore disliked. Third is all the other considerations about film quality where "political" becomes merely the carrier epithet for the whole bundle of things wrong with a bad film. Godzilla is good film, and therefore has no need for an container epithet to hold the bundle of critiques of all its non-existant problems.
>PTSD is le bad
Damn my yellow fever is strong
You've got to be negative IQ to be that fricking stupid to believe a Godzilla movie wouldn't be preachy.
>No my heckin showarino Godzilla and Babu Godzilla nooooo. It was for kids why they put message into my kaiju movie tbh.
The nukes were justified.
Japan was ready to surrender after the soviets obliterated Manchuria and Korea. Truman just wanted to show his new toy to Stalin and it's not like they were killing people, they were killing japs
No they weren't, nips were going to fight to the very last man.
>nukes are le real
breasts.
>le nuke is bad
that's EVERY godzilla, OP
>takes place during a hard time in Japanese history
>wtf why are there themes of anti war and anti nuke to a people that just lost a war and got nuked
Yeah. This movie sucks with their having people actually behave era appropriate and portray a certain perspective. Everyone knows they'd be happy about being nuked and very fond of a war that just saw them blown the frick out.
gawddamn, they really shrunk godzilla in this movie
when we got out of the theatre we all decided it was definitely them reeling it back after some of the crazy things godzilla has been up to in the last decade. Giant american godzilla, ludicrous eldritch abomination shin, literal walking apocalypse godzilla earth, temporal god singular point... this one is just a giant nuclear reptile.
yea sure but what is he, like 6'2'' in this movie? that dude next to him can't be more that 5'7'' at most
Funny but I genuinely do wonder, previous thread nobody seemed to give an answer either. I estimate the classic 50 meters just because jap autism but who knows.
hes probably even smaller than 54 goji if you scale it.
as someone who never saw the original, is the film full of these references? I only recognized the allusions to the oxygen destroyer and the shot of him cresting the hill
someone mentioned the falling reporters were in the original as well. i haven't seen it in over ten years but i remember it being a good watch still.
i just hope the dubbed version will have a random white dude interjecting periodically.
It is, but less in a 'membaberries way but more the fact that it's a semi-remake of the original 1954 film.
Odo Island is the island Godzilla was originally from in the 1954 film before he was mutated by the nuclear bomb. (It also appears in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah in 1991)
Godzilla walks by the Nichigeki Theatre in Ginza in both the '54 original and Minus One (Toho owned and operated the theater at the time)
The news crew live-reporting Godzilla's attack and subsequently get killed is nearly the exact same beat as the reporter and crew killed by Godzilla on Tokyo Tower in the 1954 original.
This is just original is wrong.
Looks too big for 50meter
Godzilla's been getting more and more huge and absurdly powerful over time, Minus One brings him back to his roots of being a giant radioactive dinosaur. Considering they've got jack shit to fight him with in this movie, if he was even on Shin Godzilla's level the movie would just be "and then everyone died, the end."
Godzilla in the original is also only like 50 feet tall. Considering that there were no huge skyscrapers in Japan during the 50's, this is a perfectly reasonable scale for the film. And he's still ridiculously powerful, each atomic breath hits with the force of a nuclear bomb and wipes out everything in the vicinity.
America only had airplane deliverable baby kilotonne fission bombs at that stange. ICBM megatonne fusion bomb Godzilla would come later.
Ok let's be honest.
A monster bigger than 100 meters would ironically lack a sense of realism and might not be frightening due to its excessive size, right?
Even the 100-meter size of the Heisei Godzilla is already too large.
Around 50 meters would be just good.
Godzilla’s size is usually just scaled to the surrounding buildings. They increased his size to 80m in 1984 so he wouldn’t be dwarfed by Tokyo’s skyscrapers.
we can go bigger
>Even the 100-meter size of the Heisei Godzilla is already too large
No Hesei size is perfect for Godzilla.
>A monster bigger than 100 meters would ironically lack a sense of realism and might not be frightening due to its excessive size, right?
i thought shin goji worked really well as a eldritch type being. its just that, the bigger they are, the harder it is for them to interact with people other than stomping on them like ants. it really depends on the type of story he needs to fit in.
This.
I don't like the fantasy aspect of a giant Godzilla featuring numerous futuristic sci-fi weapons that don't exist in reality, like the Heisei.
I prefer fighting 50m monster using real-existing weapons like a MinusOne, as it has realism.
How big is he in Minus One? He seemed much tinier than Shin or the burger movies imo.
Minus One was 60 meters. Shin was 118 I think.
someone is going to make this about being impossible to be giant lizard lol
War is bad is just a standard, non-political take, "war is good" is only a message when the military industrial complex needs money and is highly political.
those are all facts though
A proper Godzilla movie about the war would portray the Japanese as prideful idiots that pick up a fight with Godzilla, then they try to kill it and it comes to Japan and starts destroying their cities and it only leaves when Japan stops shooting at it.
honestly that's not all that far off, except for the ending which is the opposite obviously
then have the sequel be about godzilla acting as a MacArthur figure that helps rebuild japan and establish a healthy relationship with monster island.
Boring. It has to be a chaoskampf where man slays the dragon as well as a stand-in for American war power.
>LIVE
"War is bad" is a good message.
Can't wait American one will give woke speech.
1954 Godzilla was 50 meters. Minus One Godzilla is 60 meters.
Never trust the government is always a good message to have though.
100% based, that's how I know this movie's kino.
>an anti-war Godzilla film
I'm sure this has never been done before.
politics =/= sociopolitics, oppressionlympics is repulsive