what the frick nobody actually holds these opinions, right? 2014 was an awesome somber standalone film where it focuses on humans finding a protector from forces unknown, a celebration of godzilla; kotm is testing that new protector and watching people almost doom everything because of their hubris. Then, gvk destroys all of that. gvk is JUST "what if it was wacky like the other godzilla films" without any of the fun, just "Wow that was cool guys didn't you like that?" over and over to the point of frustration, and the final fight with mechagodzilla was GODAWFUL.
2014 wasn't a celebration of Godzilla, it felt like the director didn't even like Godzilla or want him in the movie. King of the Monsters was a massive improvement.
>it felt like the director didn't even like Godzilla or want him in the movie.
Frick you, 2014 Godzilla is based.
The people are the reason KotM sucks so bad. Their plot is moronic and it every moment spent with those unlikable dullards is a chore. The fights and kaiju are good but not enough to salvage the human side which takes up the majority of the movie.
kotm was them toning down the human element after people complained about it in 2014. I thought it was a bad move and prefer 2014 to it but I enjoy both greatly.
>kotm was them toning down the human element after people complained about it in 2014
They learned the wrong lesson. The only thing I don't like about 2014 is them teasing godzilla then wienerblocking you too many times. The human plot wouldn't have felt so overwhelming if they didn't do that. Also the human plot wasn't as good as it could've been. As -1 shows it's not that people dislike human plots, it's that they dislike bad human plots. If the plots good, people like it. Simple as.
>kotm was them toning down the human element after people complained about it in 2014
They were anything but toned down. Everything about the humans in Kotm is escalated and exaggerated. I'd say they saw the complaints that the human parts in the 2014 were boring and decided to fix it with more trendy television stars, more marvel-tier quipsters, and more intense family drama. Except instead of being exciting, endearing, or otherwise interesting they just became insufferable.
As unexciting as the humans in 2014 might be, they at least accomplish the task of framing the monster fights and offering a perspective that elevates the scale of the monsters. kotm humans just interrupt the monster bits while both failing to offer anything of value and also being far more offensively annoying.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I thought the human element was better in KoTM, eco terrorists are more interesting than the bland shit going on in 2014.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The eco terrorists were cool, what wasn't cool was the moms moronic motivations for joining the eco-terrorists and then being shocked when the eco-terrorists and turn out to be terrorists and not hecking wholesome balance restorers. Oh and not to mention the awful family drama.
They really should stick to the eco-terrorist plot and have them go full unabomber but I heard they got spooked during covid and dropped it for future films. Real shame.
6 months ago
Anonymous
On paper sure. But the execution was some shrill c**t bickering with her dumbass husband while some reddit quiplord chimes in and the stranger thing girl screams and whines in the background. When faced with that, I'd rather have the boring military guy because at least he's not actively annoying.
The real human winner is Kong Skull Island.
double doubles confirms 2014 is best monsterverse
also agree ecoterrorists and/or godzilla cultists is a good idea that should have been done well
6 months ago
Anonymous
On paper sure. But the execution was some shrill c**t bickering with her dumbass husband while some reddit quiplord chimes in and the stranger thing girl screams and whines in the background. When faced with that, I'd rather have the boring military guy because at least he's not actively annoying.
The real human winner is Kong Skull Island.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>The real human winner is Kong Skull Island.
Underrated post, KSI is the only movie in the monsterverse to feature actors of note given something to work with and turning out decent performances. The human content in that movie mogs the rest of the series, and the monster stuff ranges from pretty good to really good too. KSI > GvK > G14 >> KotM (embarrassingly bad movie)
6 months ago
Anonymous
anyone who shits on KotM is not a true giant monster fan, it has by far the best giant monster content we've ever seen and I've watched godzilla movies for 25 years
6 months ago
Anonymous
anyone who shits on KotM is not a little kid playing with plastic figures, FTFY
6 months ago
Anonymous
It’s some of the shittiest monster action of all time. Even worse with the high budget and cgi it still manages to have the lamest shrouded in dark action of all time. Not a single fight in the day. Dumbest shit ever
6 months ago
Anonymous
If KotM weren’t the big-budget remake of “Ghidorah, The Three-Headed Monster” that I’ve wanted since I was seven, I probably wouldn’t like it as much as I do. I think the dude from Cabin in the Woods/Billy Madison who plays the Monarch tech guy is as cringe as he is because he’s clearly written to be way younger, calling people “dude”, and talking about wanting to have kids some day, when he’s probably knocking on 60. MBB and Ice Cube’s son suck too, but the actual monster scenes (aka, why everyone showed up) are cool as hell.
6 months ago
Anonymous
This, I fricking hate that Skull Island is put into the same category as KotM and GvK. The human element in that movie is miles above the others, Sam Jackson, the dude stuck on the island since WW2, Hiddleston, even Brie Larson is entertaining.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The motivation of Vera Farmiga's character was bewildering. One second she's totally cool with monsters destroying the earth, and then when it actually starts to happen she's like "I NEVER WANTED THIS, CHUDS!!" Classic woman moment.
The people are the reason KotM sucks so bad. Their plot is moronic and it every moment spent with those unlikable dullards is a chore. The fights and kaiju are good but not enough to salvage the human side which takes up the majority of the movie.
eh, I thought skull island was good but I didn't like it as much as 2014. I didn't care for any of the actors really, and it felt like they spent just a little too long on everyone being broody instead of the imminent danger of the situation they were in. It's been a while though. I would say I enjoyed it more than GvK by a mile though, I think the first 3 monsterverse films were all 'good'.
Skull Island is the best Jurassic Park movie since the first Jurassic Park, and I would almost go as far as saying that it’s a better Kong than Jackson’s version, if for no other reason than the pacing is infinitely better, and there’s no cringe scenes that I recall.
Really good cast too. It’s a shame that it’s a period piece set in the 70s, because it would have been cool to see some of those characters in the current movies, to maybe offset some of the cringe new characters.
I can't believe people who watched GvK still have high hopes for this franchise.
i rewatched GvK today and I can't believe some people said it was better than KotM. GvK had a horridly slow first half and the second half was only saved by the monster battles which were definitely short
I’ve liked all of the Legendary movies just fine. They’re getting progressively goofier but who gives a frick? I’m not here for high art. I’m here to watch giant monsters clobber each other while people around them deal with it as best they can
The problem isn't that they're getting goofier. It's that they feel less like giant monster movies and more like generic capeshit. It's like the transition from Pacific Rim to Pacific Rim 2.
>Walter and Maia Simmons did nothing wrong
Wrong, they put the giant kaiju killer robot under the control of fricking Ghidorah, they really should've seen it taking over coming.
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GvK went all in on the moronic child characters and gave them a black autistic friend for no reason and the mom was annoying as hell
also marvel quip failed humor and a horrendous mechagodzilla design
KotM had a bloated cast and had every Kaiju fight in some terrible, monochromatic lit haze. Im still mad that we wont be getting anymore Ghidorah but thank god GvK delivered a great MechZilla.
No, KotM actually adored its monster cast. GVK only cared about one.
GvK went all in on the moronic child characters and gave them a black autistic friend for no reason and the mom was annoying as hell
also marvel quip failed humor and a horrendous mechagodzilla design
I don't remember that. It's a pretty standard action movie I just want Godzilla to be better represented in the sequel. Which he will judging by the leaks but maybe not as much as I'd like to.
>I don't remember that
So you have terrible retention abilities, or you're just lying in order skip over conversation that points out the negative qualities Legendary line of films.
If it gave me what I wanted from Godzilla I'd give it at least that. KotM gave me the characterization of monsters that should be consistent. Instead Godzilla became a prop.
>I just want Godzilla to be better represented in the sequel
have you not seen him running towards the camera capeshit style in the trailer?
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KotM had a bloated cast and had every Kaiju fight in some terrible, monochromatic lit haze. Im still mad that we wont be getting anymore Ghidorah but thank god GvK delivered a great MechZilla.
>great MechZilla
design was absolute trash
correct, i dont, because im not an easily offended baby
>le evil iz real
where can i aquire this "evil" substance? how can you measure it? are there any papers on it that describe methods to experiment with it? No there arent because it's a made up fricking word to describe something our society deems bad. someday, you will be evil if you eat animals. No one intelligent gives a frick about your little personal take on what is "evil" and what isnt, thats for children, thats baby stuff they put in disney movie, or at least they used to but even disney movies have grown up, unlike people like you.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>israelite believes in subjective morality
big shocker
2014 is the only good American Goji movie, and it is great
good human story
huge scale
best atomic breath in the franchise
MUTOs were cool and stopped worrying and loved the bomb >let them fight
everything after has been increasingly goofy
>Attacked a nuclear power plant >It was MUTO. >Attack a nuclear submarine >That's also MUTO >Eat nuclear warheads and destroy cities >Of course it's all MUTO's work
Did they create MUTO to cut down on Godzilla's appearances?
That's how a lot of hero Godzilla movies worked, they put focus on the bad guy monster tearing shit up for most of the front half of the film before Godzilla actually shows up.
seems 2014 just wanted the monsters Godzilla would fight to be compelling
think they were successful with the MUTOs
the male giving the female the nuke as a mating gift was kino
same with trying to make the human element compelling
i think they did that successfully, too
the way the mom dies early
killing off cranston
the son having to take on the responsibility of helping stop the monsters
everyone always wants more Goji, of course, but part of that is because what you do see of him is so well done
I do agree that the Mutos were good. Theres a reason fans over taken a liking to them since 2014 even if they are kinda generic american monsters. I suppose since they're the only ones in godzilla right now they do stand out as unique.
I do think the japanese monster design philosophy is better than the american philosophy.
i was just thinking that the CGI and generous amount of monster screen time in KotM and GvK may make them worth a rewatch since Minus One has me in a Goji mood, but you anons are really making me remember all the bad stuff
the neville page, aaron sims company, zbrush digital sculpting monster that has legs that are just bent tubes is an absolute plague on modern american creature design
started with independence day, i think, but that exoskeleton holding a tiny guy design was cool then
then there was the starship troopers arachnids, but they were done well and that movie is kino so whatever
then there was cloverfield
then there was the MUTOs
but if i wasnt lazy there are probably dozens of examples i could find of the same thing done worse
the digital sculpting artist websites are full of them, too
not a lot of originality out there
There's a feature on the 2014 DVD where Gareth Edwards talks about the challenges of creating a totally new monster that is both believable and fits within the design language of Godzilla. I think they nailed it. They're memorable, at least, although I wonder if they should've gotten proper names.
The only thing I don’t like about them is the name. The MUTOs isn’t super memorable and it’s like there’s two of them and they’re both just MUTO, literally a placeholder acronym name. I don’t know what they could have called them but I would have liked almost anything else.
>I don’t know what they could have called them but I would have liked almost anything else.
something relating to radiation would be my guess. Maybe Chernobog? Its the name of a demon and it sounds sort of like Chernobyl
It's only really a challenge if you're stuck in the american creature design mindset. Making a design that fits with godzilla is easy, hell they've even done it a couple times since like with the mammoth sloth thing.
Godzilla is just a 1930's t-rex with stegosaurus plates. Just combine cool animal traits and you get cool monsters.
The only thing I don’t like about them is the name. The MUTOs isn’t super memorable and it’s like there’s two of them and they’re both just MUTO, literally a placeholder acronym name. I don’t know what they could have called them but I would have liked almost anything else.
>We call it Massive Unidentified Terrestrial Organism >It is however no longer terrestrial
Yeah the name was always pretty bad. I think westerners are just terrified of making a cheesy name, so they often resort to some lame acronym so they can pretend it's serious.
It really baffles me that they're going all in on the hollow earth lore. Like, damn, Ghidorah was an alien? Not gonna do anything with that? They could even go the supernatural route or something. But how many fricking times do we have to see le ebin hollow earth?
What blows me away is that we're going all in on the hollow earth lore, but we're just gonna ignore the monsters like Megalon or Megaguirus that would be perfect for it. I know everyone is probably sick of hearing the "they should have used Gigan" spiel, but Megalon and Gigan really would be the perfect way to bring the aliens and hollow earth lore together.
>hollow earth >no Megalon Megaguirus Gigan
yup
they just used it as a lazy way to fit in more monsters that dont fit instead of going with the ones that make sense
gay
homonsterverse
After KotM bombed I really doubt we'll be seeing many more toho monsters.
6 months ago
Anonymous
It didnt bomb, israelite producers are just greedy and wanted 80 billion in profit. GvK only did better because of covid but because it made more money, Hollywood is gonna double down on Kong even though Kong sucks and no one likes him.
6 months ago
Anonymous
It made 300 mil vs a 200 mil budget. After factoring in marketing costs it probably lost money. GvK made a 100 mil more which I don't think can be attributed to covid.
6 months ago
Anonymous
you morons still don't get it, legendary is a Chinese company, the movies are just then learning to make Hollywood blockbusters, they don't need 2 billions because the objective is to start an industry of international movies to rival hollyjew, that's why they keep pumping the movies, they never intender the movies to be huge, or else they would had worked with Sony or WB to get global reach. You only see the WB logo attached to the movies in north America and like 4 European countries. In my country Toho themselves tried to do the distribution for the movie. What you gays need to understand is that the Japs hate China, BUT see china as the main market for their media, that's why Legendary got the rights for Pokemon, Gundam, Godzilla and my hero academia, Japs want to use the Chinese to get big budget movies, while the Chinese want Jap IPs to compete with Hollywood. By supporting the monsterverse you are encouraging the destruction of America, is like literally giving money to Hamas
6 months ago
Anonymous
It's you again. Frick off with your Chinese obsession and conspiracy you don't even keep up to date with corporate news you pretend to be obsessed with. Seriously go frick yourself.
6 months ago
Anonymous
He’s right Monsterverse is Chinese. Skull island is Chinese. King Kong is from china mothra is from china now. It’s so obvious.
6 months ago
Anonymous
King Ghidorah is from China, Spacegodzilla is from China, Baragon is from China, Anguirus is from China, the Xiliens are from China.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>corporate news
Selling stock to the Saudis does not mean Legendary is not longer a Chinese company.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Not to Saudis they sold stake to Apollo early in 2022.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Under the deal, Legendary management will regain operational, strategic and creative control of the company. Chinese giant Dailan Wanda will reduce its ownership position while remaining majority shareholder.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>while remaining majority shareholder.
Still chinese then.
6 months ago
Anonymous
No, they just explained it right there. Do you think State Street owns Disney?
6 months ago
Anonymous
For fricks sake. Fricking moron.
6 months ago
Anonymous
A lot of moronation going around. It's a Chinese conspiracy that the studio is owned by Americans and the decisions are done by Americans. I will neverg forgive the Chinese.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You need help son.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>By supporting the monsterverse you are encouraging the destruction of America
I will go watch it a dozen time then
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Kong sucks and no one likes him
absolute homosexual take
Kong is not only the first kaiju, but an important part of film history
USA #1
6 months ago
Anonymous
He's literally just a big monkey. Boring as frick.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>literally
more gay talk
>telling the lie with a smile in the face and a tear in the soul
im sure this sounds better in your native language
Kong was the inspiration for the kaiju genre but not a member itself. King kong is clearly a part of the "save princess from monster" genre ala creature from the black lagoon or robot monster.
he is the original
the inspiration and the prototype
6 months ago
Anonymous
Kong was the inspiration for the kaiju genre but not a member itself. King kong is clearly a part of the "save princess from monster" genre ala creature from the black lagoon or robot monster.
6 months ago
Anonymous
This. I was just watching a video the other day where they were interviewing the suit actors who have played Godzilla over the years, and the original guy said that Tanaka showed him a screening of his personal print of King Kong for inspiration.
6 months ago
Anonymous
No one disuptes the historical relevance of Kong. He's a very shallow character compared to Godzilla though and there's just not much you can do with him. He's literally just a big fricking monkey. Boring as frick and will never match the popularity of Godzilla hence why they had to license Godzilla to try and get monsterverse off the ground. They're failing miserably btw.
6 months ago
Anonymous
He was working iwth Tsuburaya and he was also told to go to the zoo for inspiration.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Was it Tsubaraya? I could have sworn it was the producer, but it’s entirely possible that I’m misremembering which “T-guy” it was, I get them mixed up from time to time.
6 months ago
Anonymous
King Kong is kino and Legendary is doubling down on him because they want their movies to make money and Kong is more popular among general audiences.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>It didnt bomb
It didn't deliver, and that's the relevant part.
It made 300 mil vs a 200 mil budget. After factoring in marketing costs it probably lost money. GvK made a 100 mil more which I don't think can be attributed to covid.
>It made 300 mil vs a 200 mil budget
Movies need to make around 2.5 their initial budgets to break even. Which is why most recent blockbusters are major flops.
>hollow earth >no Megalon Megaguirus Gigan
yup
they just used it as a lazy way to fit in more monsters that dont fit instead of going with the ones that make sense
gay
homonsterverse
After KotM bombed I really doubt we'll be seeing many more toho monsters.
You don't need the Toho monsters exactly, just make new monsters with the spirit of them.
The Godzilla cartoon from the 98 movie managed to make cool new monsters every episode.
>Theres a reason fans over taken a liking to them since 2014 even if they are kinda generic american monsters.
How are they any more generic than an over grown moth or a three headed dragon?
The MUTO are so far the best attempt at creating new and modern kaiju for the Godzilla franchise. KotM had some okay newcomers that got handwaved like unwanted trash.
You now remember the kids and black guy in GvK being completely fricking stupid and annoying and having nothing to do with the plot, just being inserted in randomly.
>You now remember the kids and black guy in GvK being completely fricking stupid and annoying and having nothing to do with the plot, just being inserted in randomly.
This is the main reason I'll never be able to rewatch this movie in its entirety.
>Godzilla is all anyone cares about >GxK was all about Kong and Kong only >GxK 2 looks to be more of the same
I fricking hate Kong, Godzilla is a million times better, and besides, Red Monkey is literally the lamest villain ever after Godzilla literally fought SATAN(Ghidorah)
How would Godzilla find Red Monkey a problem at all when compared to that?
I do agree that the Mutos were good. Theres a reason fans over taken a liking to them since 2014 even if they are kinda generic american monsters. I suppose since they're the only ones in godzilla right now they do stand out as unique.
I do think the japanese monster design philosophy is better than the american philosophy.
>Just had a movie introducing Kong fighting Godzilla >Now we just get a Kong recolor as the villain >"But anon, leaks indicate there's a secret big bad monster to fight Godzilla!" >It's just a Godzilla recolor
The whole movie just feels like it's gonna be GvK again but this time they're fighting their player 2 counterparts. Frick man, I just want more cool monsters. I really liked the MUTOs.
It really baffles me that they're going all in on the hollow earth lore. Like, damn, Ghidorah was an alien? Not gonna do anything with that? They could even go the supernatural route or something. But how many fricking times do we have to see le ebin hollow earth?
Wingard will get quesions about his bias but if Godzilla has an actual role in the film I'm gonna accept it and hope next time it's him in the main role maybe with Mothra.
Just do something to make me care a new look isn't enough I need a reason. Supposedly the movie is about the past and Godzilla lived in it. So it should be personal to him.
People were already complaining after test screening and they will after the movie and I'm not sorry. I hope they get really nasty because I'm tired of these morons always learning the wrong things.
I spent the last two weeks or so torrenting every Godzilla movie in the series, including ‘98 and Monsterverse, and have been watching them all in release order. I’ve got to say, the tonal whiplash you get going straight into ‘14 immediately after the credits rolled in Final Wars is really something. Same with ‘84 after Terror of Mechagodzilla.
no, it's definitely too late for that
Skull Island set up nice potential for a modern take on Kong but then they blew it
but that doesn't mean Kong sucks
just shows how lame the KotM and GvK decisions have been, the new trailer is crammed with obvious bad decisions kek
>When Cooper was envisioning his giant terror gorilla idea, he wanted to capture a real gorilla from the Congo and have it fight a real Komodo dragon on Komodo Island >Cooper was fascinated by Burden's adventures as chronicled in his book Dragon Lizards of Komodo where he referred to the animal as the "King of Komodo". >It was this phrase along with "Komodo" and "Kongo" (and his overall love for hard sounding "K"-words) that gave him the idea to name the giant ape "Kong". He loved the name, as it had a "mystery sound" to it.
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Gorilla isn't monke. Gorilla no swing. Gorilla smash
you two aren't serious right? you're not that autistic right?
>When Cooper was envisioning his giant terror gorilla idea, he wanted to capture a real gorilla from the Congo and have it fight a real Komodo dragon on Komodo Island >Cooper was fascinated by Burden's adventures as chronicled in his book Dragon Lizards of Komodo where he referred to the animal as the "King of Komodo". >It was this phrase along with "Komodo" and "Kongo" (and his overall love for hard sounding "K"-words) that gave him the idea to name the giant ape "Kong". He loved the name, as it had a "mystery sound" to it.
He monke. His whole shtick is being acrobatic, a staff would have been way cooler in that respect.
Gorilla isn't monke. Gorilla no swing. Gorilla smash
-he's moving way too fast
-his movements look human, something that pretty much never happens, even back when there was a human wearing a godzilla suit
-his mouth is gaped like a zesty homie's butthole. There's no reason for that
-to top it off, godzilla does a fricking hero pose for no reason
How can you even ruin him? The only way you could do so would be to completely destroy his character. Gamera is >A protector of humanity and children >As brave and determined as they come >Unbelievably strong, yet his enemies are even more so
Funny since Gamera literally destroy the pedo-cultists elites planning a drastic demographic changes thanks to kids sacrifices in Gamera Rebirth.
Gamera is now ennemy of israelites, reason more for them to ruin him
That would be cool. Doubt Legendary considers Gamera enough of an audience-draw to fork over the money for the license, though.
The Gamera rights holders actually wanted to do a Godzilla vs Gamera with Toho during the Millennium era but Toho turned the offer down.
Why not make it the actual MCU of kaiju movies like it was intended? Give other toho monsters their own movie and build them up before smashing them together?
I think a dedicated mothra and hedorah movie could've been really good and successful.
This I could get behind. Make it unironically moronic instead of accidentally moronic. Problem with that it you have to actually be more competent and talented to pull that off. It takes a legit genius to make something like Police Squad for instance. Diversity hires aren't up to it.
On the left it's Shimo, Godzilla's ancestor I guess and on the right some Sephora or something. A new monster thatt nobody liked so it was replaced by Mothra in the movie.
>"Toho officially endorsed it" >US Toho account posts it then Toho Japan snubs the author once they find out what happened
They're not going to let it go just like now morons, fighting and getting ratio'd for the past five days now, found refugee in dancing extras in the original Godzilla.
At least one of them deactivated (but he'll be back). For someone who apparently hates getting into fights so much he sure gets involved in them a lot.
i am hoping different kaiju instead of a bunch of kong clones. maybe like when they revealed doomsday in bvs they'll reveal destoroyah or something but are keeping it secret
When is this piece of shit movie releasing? I'm trying to figure out how long we're going to have to endure the marketing shills shitting up the board with this goyslop.
There are currently 3 godzilla related things going on, Minus, GxK and the tv show. The number of threads are perfectly organic if you discount the schizo troony poster
It was like that before. We had a couple hangers on with no personality visiting threads about things they didn't care about but they always got bored and we were able to have a normal thread.
It was goingso well for the first three episodes. Episode six will come out this Friday and this is the one everybody told us will be a fan favorite even Kurt Russell said it was among his favorites. Episode seven will annoy people and the last three will be good again I don't know what the final score will be but it's better to wait until all episodes are out there,
No, in what way? We're just halfway done so far the problem is that the more interesting characters weren't in the last two episodes and that's their problem.
I think they're not familiar with the idea Godzilla movies and shows still have people in them.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Goddamn it's funny to see you shill fricks try to justify this garbage.
>man Minus One was great! The human plot was amazing why can't Monsterverse be this good? >>well tourist chud racist you see Monsterverse is silly showa era camp it doesn't have to be good
>man monsterverse human shit is garbage and full of woke identity politics and anti-white bullshit >>well tourist chud racist you see Monsterverse human stuff is more elevated than the terrible cheesy human stuff in old Godzilla movies
lol get fricked troons no one is buying you garbage pilpul. We know what draws us to Godzilla and Monsterverse ain't it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Who's "us"? Because you're a fringe fraction of a demographic no one is interested in.
6 months ago
Anonymous
kek
no one likes monsterverse, anon
KotM and GvK were absolute trash
6 months ago
Anonymous
GvK was alright. The monster fights were cool and I appreciated the reference to the original GvK.
6 months ago
Anonymous
some of them were very cool, yes
but the movies were overwhelmingly made up of the worst human stories in any Goji movie, with some random black autist hanging out with stranger things for no reason and people making marvel-lite King Gonorrhea quips
ecoterrorism would've been a cool idea for Goji human story, but it was wasted
6 months ago
Anonymous
I still think KotM's human plot was more stupid. At least in GvK everyones motivations made some sense and they kept the unrelated family drama to a minimum.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Wingard didn't want Godzilla in his story so he kept him to minimum and we see the same mistakes again with the new movie.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Clearly untrue.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>muh human story muh human story muh human story
theyre shit in all of the films homosexual shut the frick up
6 months ago
Anonymous
kek, no
you're a homosexual
6 months ago
Anonymous
name 1 godzilla movie with a human story so good that you would watch it without any kaiju in it at all. i'll wait.
6 months ago
Anonymous
It already has almost no kaiju in it anyway and I love it still.
6 months ago
Anonymous
6 months ago
Anonymous
dogshit. the most bargain bin generic story of its time period.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Godzilla vs. Gigan. Some butthole mangaka tring to stop aliens from taking over the world by building a sinister theme park is pretty entertaining
6 months ago
Anonymous
it was decent, and i loved how 70s it was, but it would still be nothing special without the fights.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>it would still be nothing special without the fights
lies. Scooby and the gang were enchanting especially after the government gave them cases of explosives to demolish the Godzilla shaped base set up by interstellar wienerroaches.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>you would watch it without any kaiju in it at all
what kind of israeli pilpul is this?
no one said that, moron
but Mothra
6 months ago
Anonymous
Final wars unironically. Great bad movie to watch with friends. Stalin-sama makes that movie.
6 months ago
Anonymous
What a world that we're getting sequels, spin offs and tie ins to the thing nobody watches or likes.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>chinks and israelites shitting out more trash is an indication of quality
K E K
E E E
K E K
6 months ago
Anonymous
What the hell is the world's demographics in your fantasy world?
6 months ago
Anonymous
what are you talking about?
legendary is chinks
hollywood is israelites
are you confused?
No one disuptes the historical relevance of Kong. He's a very shallow character compared to Godzilla though and there's just not much you can do with him. He's literally just a big fricking monkey. Boring as frick and will never match the popularity of Godzilla hence why they had to license Godzilla to try and get monsterverse off the ground. They're failing miserably btw.
>He's a very shallow character compared to Godzilla though
this is an absolutely asinine statement
Kong even in the original has more emotional beats and characterization than any Goji iteration
Goji is a force of nature / spirit of revenge, he is used for the humans' characterization
he has very little character in his own right, even if he is awesome and i love him
6 months ago
Anonymous
6 months ago
Anonymous
>anon pretends that being hungry, wanting pussy, being lonely, and not wanting your personal spaces invaded are not very relatable motivations
6 months ago
Anonymous
In the span of a few minutes you stated that Godzilla is just entertainment and there are no messages and politics involved, that there's a marxist conspiracy to make Godzilla gay and that the world's population consists of the Chinese and israelites and that's why there are more Godzilla movies made because no one likes them and no one watches them. There's nothing that you can say that can possibly salvage you right now you absolute homosexual. You haven't heard of Godzilla until last week at best.
You're flailing around now. Sad. Many such cases.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>anon thinks he's talking to one person
you noticeably have no argument
Kong has and always will have more character
What a weird new obsession.
please tell the thread what obsession that would be
you actually understand what is being said, right? you're not just a dumb ESL moron, are you?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Watch more Godzilla movies without checking your phone all the time if you missed his character.
6 months ago
Anonymous
ive seen them all
im not a phone zoomer
you have no argument and are a homosexual
6 months ago
Anonymous
Like Captain Marvel, right?
6 months ago
Anonymous
It's which marvel movie now? Now, how are Legendary movies so unpopular that nobody likes or watches them then?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>It's which marvel movie now?
Huh?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Now, how are Legendary movies so unpopular that nobody likes or watches them then?
The GxK trailer is sitting at 90m views right now. Minus One might have given it a boost, but clearly some people care.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Because you're a fringe fraction of a demographic no one is interested in.
lol just like israelites, homosexuals and trannies then?
6 months ago
Anonymous
no one on this board said any of those things ever.
No, in what way? We're just halfway done so far the problem is that the more interesting characters weren't in the last two episodes and that's their problem.
The lesbian chick entire thing is that she has daddy issues, is LITERALLY stated by her mother that she needed more male influence but her mom loved to have an absent partner. Then we know the Lesbian also fricked up her lesbian relationship because it was unfaithful or something like that, she just abandoned the ugly lesbian. I dont mind it because she is a teacher from San Francisco, the gayest city in the planet, I'm just glad they went with a cute lesbian instead of some troony. The school had gay stairs, it was funny
>The lesbian chick entire thing is that she has daddy issues
I literally don't care. Get your fricking israelite marxist struggle session out of my Godzilla and just ENTERTAIN.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Godzila the simple franchise free from any messaging whatsoever. Don't you have some videos of youtubers talking about Godzilla DESTROYING WOKE DISNEY or something?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Same as "Star Trek was always woke".
Here's what you don't get troon. Even if that was true you still avoid the fact that it must have been that way and also somehow not alienating a huge portion of the audience otherwise it never would have been successful enough to last the test of time. You fricks have ruined every franchise and then stand around like you didn't do anything even as you can see the absolute failure of your efforts to generate revenue and positive fan engagement. You're completely fricking delusional but that's obvious as you cut your genitals off and swear you're a woman now.
lol. No one likes you. No one wants to buy your shit.
6 months ago
Anonymous
You actually use this pic? It's like you don't care to show how much of a tourist gay you are. You don't know the meaning of these movies not even Minus One and you're pretending to care about Godzilla being pink which assaults his masculinity. You're hitting every single tourist point. Your knowledge ends with Critical Drinker's video.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Not an argument. I accept your concession.
6 months ago
Anonymous
In the span of a few minutes you stated that Godzilla is just entertainment and there are no messages and politics involved, that there's a marxist conspiracy to make Godzilla gay and that the world's population consists of the Chinese and israelites and that's why there are more Godzilla movies made because no one likes them and no one watches them. There's nothing that you can say that can possibly salvage you right now you absolute homosexual. You haven't heard of Godzilla until last week at best.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>the world's population consists of the Chinese and israelites
im not that anon and holy shit that isn't what i said you dumb ESL Black person
6 months ago
Anonymous
What a weird new obsession.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>In the span of a few minutes you stated that Godzilla is just entertainment and there are no messages and politics involved
You made that up. >that there's a marxist conspiracy to make Godzilla gay
You made that up. >the world's population consists of the Chinese and israelites and that's why there are more Godzilla movies made because no one likes them and no one watches them.
You made that up. >You haven't heard of Godzilla until last week at best.
See above.
6 months ago
Anonymous
KEK those pics
6 months ago
Anonymous
Normies are discovering that Godzilla's range in tone is limitless but to the fans it's nothing new.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
A truly flexible character can be many things without compromising their core
6 months ago
Anonymous
reminds me of Ninja Turtles, and why that one is still relevant to this day.
6 months ago
Anonymous
That's exactly what happened On Minus One's opening weekend.
6 months ago
Anonymous
stop replying to yourself anon and take your medication, your family worries about you.
6 months ago
Anonymous
its okay if you like capeshit so much you want it in everything but stop lying to yourself anon
6 months ago
Anonymous
So New Empire is guaranteed to bomb, right? Black person? homosexual?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>So New Empire is guaranteed to bomb, right?
Nah there's plenty of normies out there with brains comped by seed oils, s()y and corn syrup who will lap that slop up. I honestly doubt it will flop as bad as the marvels but I guess it could happen.
imagine not hating gays and israelites with all your being
6 months ago
Anonymous
correct, i dont, because im not an easily offended baby
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I am ignorant of evil, therefore I am good! >I know not the folly of my ways yet proclaim myself righteous! >Evil is perspective, and I have none! My morals remain unshaken for being formless! >My mind is melded by the status quo, and for that I am happy! >Signed, Anonymous, in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty and three.
6 months ago
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>I am ignorant of evil
stopped reading, you're an illiterate low iq moron, reading further would be like walking into the Chernobyl reactor of stupid and give me brain cancer.
Is it like with Elon Musk and that MAGA communist he was talking about? How they don't like GTA because you have to go against the law and shoot the cops? What's happening? Who the frick turned the switch?
back in my day people went to see a movie just because two girls kissed in it
6 months ago
Anonymous
welcome to nu4chin where everyone is a Church Lady
6 months ago
Anonymous
jews used to be subtle about the subversion and generally entertain. The mask has slipped lately mainly because their diversity hires aren't competent enough to make a quality product even if they removed the subversion so it all just becomes so clear because of how ham-handed it is thanks to 80IQ browns and femoids not having the cognitive ability to be subtle. israelites always overextend and that's why 110.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>ham-handed
you are the 80IQ here
6 months ago
Anonymous
Because it was a novelty back then. Now, it’s just annoying, and it’s clearly being defended by people who need it constantly beamed into their eyes, lest their fragile worldview crumble to dust.
This shit wasn’t common even a decade ago, and anyone even vaguely paying attention notices how forced it is. You turned that stovetop element up just a little too fast, and the frog noticed that you’re trying to boil it. All you had to do was leave the kids alone, and people would probably be way more tolerant of your degeneracy.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Because it was a novelty back then
no, it was against the law back then and very ignorant people would mistreat gay people. It's less so now so you can actually have gay people in a tv show. Gay people can be openly gay now so you see it more than 20 years ago.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>you see it more than 20 years ago
All part of the plan comrade.
I hope it’s going somewhere, but I’m two episodes deep right now, and I’m largely just bored. There’s some interesting worldbuilding in Japan, I like the Russell boys doing their thing, and I like Ders as a younger version of Bill Randa (John Goodman in Skull Island), but couldn’t care less about the Japanese family drama shit. I also rolled my eyes that they somehow figured a way to shoehorn an ugly, angry, chubby (but still letting her gut hang out of a midriff shirt), dreadlocked black chick into a plot involving Japanese people in Japan, and because this is a modern production, she’s also the designated “Smart One”, a L33T hacker. She looks like she smells bad, and she doesn’t particularly have an appealing attitude, and I’m expected to believe that this well put together Japanese dude is pining away for this Uruk-hai looking b***h.
Godzilla, Kong and Mothra returned
Villains are Skar King (bad ape that started the war between Godzilla and Kong species) and Shimo (the first monster and Godzilla's distant ancestor who freezes shit).
There are also other boring apes Hollow earth monsters and at least one arachnid we see at the beginning when Godzilla saves Rome and then takes a nap in the Colosseum.
Maybe they'll feel secure enough to tease the sequel. For everything that has been leaked no one ever talked about the ending. What changes at the end of the movie? I don't know but we know they're planning more movies.
literally nothing. How many of these shit fests do they have to release before you can accept it's never going to be good just more soulless capeshit-tier slop?
You're the tourist. We had comfy as frick regular threads for a year leading up to Minus One thanks to countdown anon. It's only since the garbageverse trailer dropped you absolute homosexual shills have popped up to shit all over everything as per usual. There's a reason you're miserable and it's you.
It's not 2021 anymore. /m/ is the best place to discuss Godzilla now. Tourists, trojan horses, hangers on however we call them they don't go there so it's an actual discussion between people who know what they're discussing and not /misc/homosexualry because Yellow Flash and Criticla Drinker made videos about Godzilla.
Godzilla was political but yet still managed to deliver a product that people loved and didn't alienate or outright antagonize people into hating it like current year holylwood Black person homosexuals.
>x was always this way
No it wasn't troon and YWNBAW
>Disney
Holy shit Yellow Flash audience. Stop revealing yourself, casual. It's you who ruiin every discussion bringing your moronic boring war into this and some irrelevant bullshit because you have nothing to add to the topic. Your brain is just so rotted away with years of exposure to all this bullshit it's all you can talk about.
Is anyone else bothering to watch that monarch show? It's so stupid and gay. Half way through the second episode I just kept randomly replaying Enter The Gladiators off my laptop over a scene because everyone's some bumbling, melodramatic moron. So much for a show about monster wrangling lol.
>Half way through the second episode I just kept randomly replaying Enter The Gladiators off my laptop over a scene because everyone's some bumbling, melodramatic moron.
Legendary, hire this man.
Because it's not about the media it's about the agenda. Toho is about the media. israelitelywood is about subverting human civilization. It's a death cult.
>Why are there so many people determined in the defence of being served substandard quality media?
do you hate every godzilla that isnt 1954 and Minus One?
>"Godzilla was always shit."
Who said that? wtf are you fricking talking about? are you having a fricking psychotic episode? the orderlies are fricking up by letting you have internet access anon.
Good. It was created by fans unlike the franchises that are specifically avoiding hiring fans and are dying. Monsterverse was co-created by the first Godzilla director who could be called a fan because he was young enough when he directed it in the 70s.
That’s literally what they’ve been since the beginning. Godzilla Raids Again immediately threw out the grim tone of ‘54, and by the time they got to the 60s, Toho came to the totally unforeseen conclusion that children like the immortal dragon dinosaur monster that smashes buildings, and fights the army, and essentially made it family-friendly.
you mentally ill morons literally cannot have a discussion about anything without most of it involving "the woke agenda". its all so fricking tiresome.
This is the point of current year info war. It's designed to wear you out and demoralize you. It's designed to ruin everything so when globohomosexual rides in to save the day with their technotronic slave grid you suck their dicks for giving you a moment's peace at the cost of your soul. Refuse. Resist.
Godzilla threads used to be consistently good now there's too much trash from everywhere. It's like now Godzilla went from a really popular franchise that still wasn't as big compared with others to something that's the new cool thing to be into even if it's just for show.
Cinemaphile is a board that needs forced anon removed. Since it's basically a second /misc/ board it should get similar treatment and tag every poster in each thread.
Yes so lots of normies are being woken up by the blatant subversion on display. They took the mask off and then acted surprised when jim and betty normal gay revolted in horror and stopped paying attention to their propaganda.
if you dont you will lead a very miserable life indeed. one day years from now you will look back and realise that one anon in the godzilla thread was right.
Yes!
And she was Konged!
Another incredibly cerebral conversation on Cinemaphile.org
You didn't hear that. You just made it up.
The evil ape eats a mothra, but not The Mothra
How many mothras are there?
at least 2
4 U
I can't believe people who watched GvK still have high hopes for this franchise.
KoTM and GvK were good, only 2014 was bad.
what the frick nobody actually holds these opinions, right? 2014 was an awesome somber standalone film where it focuses on humans finding a protector from forces unknown, a celebration of godzilla; kotm is testing that new protector and watching people almost doom everything because of their hubris. Then, gvk destroys all of that. gvk is JUST "what if it was wacky like the other godzilla films" without any of the fun, just "Wow that was cool guys didn't you like that?" over and over to the point of frustration, and the final fight with mechagodzilla was GODAWFUL.
2014 wasn't a celebration of Godzilla, it felt like the director didn't even like Godzilla or want him in the movie. King of the Monsters was a massive improvement.
>it felt like the director didn't even like Godzilla or want him in the movie.
Frick you, 2014 Godzilla is based.
kotm was them toning down the human element after people complained about it in 2014. I thought it was a bad move and prefer 2014 to it but I enjoy both greatly.
>kotm was them toning down the human element after people complained about it in 2014
They learned the wrong lesson. The only thing I don't like about 2014 is them teasing godzilla then wienerblocking you too many times. The human plot wouldn't have felt so overwhelming if they didn't do that. Also the human plot wasn't as good as it could've been. As -1 shows it's not that people dislike human plots, it's that they dislike bad human plots. If the plots good, people like it. Simple as.
fair enough
>kotm was them toning down the human element after people complained about it in 2014
They were anything but toned down. Everything about the humans in Kotm is escalated and exaggerated. I'd say they saw the complaints that the human parts in the 2014 were boring and decided to fix it with more trendy television stars, more marvel-tier quipsters, and more intense family drama. Except instead of being exciting, endearing, or otherwise interesting they just became insufferable.
As unexciting as the humans in 2014 might be, they at least accomplish the task of framing the monster fights and offering a perspective that elevates the scale of the monsters. kotm humans just interrupt the monster bits while both failing to offer anything of value and also being far more offensively annoying.
I thought the human element was better in KoTM, eco terrorists are more interesting than the bland shit going on in 2014.
The eco terrorists were cool, what wasn't cool was the moms moronic motivations for joining the eco-terrorists and then being shocked when the eco-terrorists and turn out to be terrorists and not hecking wholesome balance restorers. Oh and not to mention the awful family drama.
They really should stick to the eco-terrorist plot and have them go full unabomber but I heard they got spooked during covid and dropped it for future films. Real shame.
double doubles confirms 2014 is best monsterverse
also agree ecoterrorists and/or godzilla cultists is a good idea that should have been done well
On paper sure. But the execution was some shrill c**t bickering with her dumbass husband while some reddit quiplord chimes in and the stranger thing girl screams and whines in the background. When faced with that, I'd rather have the boring military guy because at least he's not actively annoying.
The real human winner is Kong Skull Island.
>The real human winner is Kong Skull Island.
Underrated post, KSI is the only movie in the monsterverse to feature actors of note given something to work with and turning out decent performances. The human content in that movie mogs the rest of the series, and the monster stuff ranges from pretty good to really good too. KSI > GvK > G14 >> KotM (embarrassingly bad movie)
anyone who shits on KotM is not a true giant monster fan, it has by far the best giant monster content we've ever seen and I've watched godzilla movies for 25 years
anyone who shits on KotM is not a little kid playing with plastic figures, FTFY
It’s some of the shittiest monster action of all time. Even worse with the high budget and cgi it still manages to have the lamest shrouded in dark action of all time. Not a single fight in the day. Dumbest shit ever
If KotM weren’t the big-budget remake of “Ghidorah, The Three-Headed Monster” that I’ve wanted since I was seven, I probably wouldn’t like it as much as I do. I think the dude from Cabin in the Woods/Billy Madison who plays the Monarch tech guy is as cringe as he is because he’s clearly written to be way younger, calling people “dude”, and talking about wanting to have kids some day, when he’s probably knocking on 60. MBB and Ice Cube’s son suck too, but the actual monster scenes (aka, why everyone showed up) are cool as hell.
This, I fricking hate that Skull Island is put into the same category as KotM and GvK. The human element in that movie is miles above the others, Sam Jackson, the dude stuck on the island since WW2, Hiddleston, even Brie Larson is entertaining.
The motivation of Vera Farmiga's character was bewildering. One second she's totally cool with monsters destroying the earth, and then when it actually starts to happen she's like "I NEVER WANTED THIS, CHUDS!!" Classic woman moment.
The people are the reason KotM sucks so bad. Their plot is moronic and it every moment spent with those unlikable dullards is a chore. The fights and kaiju are good but not enough to salvage the human side which takes up the majority of the movie.
>2014
>a celebration of Godzilla
Funniest joke I've heard all year
>didn't mention Skull Island.
You forgot it existed, admit it.
Because there's no Godzilla in it. In terms of actual quality it's the best of the Monsterverse.
eh, I thought skull island was good but I didn't like it as much as 2014. I didn't care for any of the actors really, and it felt like they spent just a little too long on everyone being broody instead of the imminent danger of the situation they were in. It's been a while though. I would say I enjoyed it more than GvK by a mile though, I think the first 3 monsterverse films were all 'good'.
Skull Island is the best Jurassic Park movie since the first Jurassic Park, and I would almost go as far as saying that it’s a better Kong than Jackson’s version, if for no other reason than the pacing is infinitely better, and there’s no cringe scenes that I recall.
Really good cast too. It’s a shame that it’s a period piece set in the 70s, because it would have been cool to see some of those characters in the current movies, to maybe offset some of the cringe new characters.
>only 2014 was bad.
moron alert.
Is your brain made of actual shit?
KOTM was god awful, I've held that opinion since seeing it in theaters
GvK was better than KotM
i rewatched GvK today and I can't believe some people said it was better than KotM. GvK had a horridly slow first half and the second half was only saved by the monster battles which were definitely short
>dogshit was better than horse piss
I’ve liked all of the Legendary movies just fine. They’re getting progressively goofier but who gives a frick? I’m not here for high art. I’m here to watch giant monsters clobber each other while people around them deal with it as best they can
>I’m not here for high art.
I am.
The problem isn't that they're getting goofier. It's that they feel less like giant monster movies and more like generic capeshit. It's like the transition from Pacific Rim to Pacific Rim 2.
>reasonably believes humanity should have a deterrent for rogue titans
>is irredeemably evil for this and you are supposed to cheer when he dies
>takes a small rock sample
>this is why it's okay when Kong murders her
Walter and Maia Simmons did nothing wrong. Apexchads, it's our turn
>Walter and Maia Simmons did nothing wrong
Wrong, they put the giant kaiju killer robot under the control of fricking Ghidorah, they really should've seen it taking over coming.
GvK was pure kino. Art.
I thought people liked it ironically in the same manner we liked Final Wars.
Final wars is the best godzilla movie of all time tho. Pure kino fun
Anyone got this image in a larger format? The only one I can find using yandex images won't load.
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>nooooo you have to love Memezilla Minus Fun because it’s made by Japs!!! SAVE ME REDDDDDIT
This. Kotm and gvk were fricking horrible, the CGI is shit, terrible plot, nothing good in them
GvK was way way WAY better than fricking KotM.
No, KotM actually adored its monster cast. GVK only cared about one.
KotM had a bloated cast and had every Kaiju fight in some terrible, monochromatic lit haze. Im still mad that we wont be getting anymore Ghidorah but thank god GvK delivered a great MechZilla.
GvK went all in on the moronic child characters and gave them a black autistic friend for no reason and the mom was annoying as hell
also marvel quip failed humor and a horrendous mechagodzilla design
I don't remember that. It's a pretty standard action movie I just want Godzilla to be better represented in the sequel. Which he will judging by the leaks but maybe not as much as I'd like to.
>I don't remember that
So you have terrible retention abilities, or you're just lying in order skip over conversation that points out the negative qualities Legendary line of films.
If it gave me what I wanted from Godzilla I'd give it at least that. KotM gave me the characterization of monsters that should be consistent. Instead Godzilla became a prop.
>I just want Godzilla to be better represented in the sequel
have you not seen him running towards the camera capeshit style in the trailer?
>great MechZilla
design was absolute trash
>rejecting evil is being easily offended
shalom!
>le evil iz real
where can i aquire this "evil" substance? how can you measure it? are there any papers on it that describe methods to experiment with it? No there arent because it's a made up fricking word to describe something our society deems bad. someday, you will be evil if you eat animals. No one intelligent gives a frick about your little personal take on what is "evil" and what isnt, thats for children, thats baby stuff they put in disney movie, or at least they used to but even disney movies have grown up, unlike people like you.
>israelite believes in subjective morality
big shocker
You will know a tree by its fruits.
Mothra is going to be in it according to test screenings. She replaced another original monster that previous test audiences didn't like.
Source?
2014 is the only good American Goji movie, and it is great
good human story
huge scale
best atomic breath in the franchise
MUTOs were cool and stopped worrying and loved the bomb
>let them fight
everything after has been increasingly goofy
>telling the lie with a smile in the face and a tear in the soul
Godzilla 2014 looks like a masterpiece when you watch snippets of good scenes on YouTube, but the overall pacing is terrible.
Yeah it's like 1 minute of good footage spaced throughout the entirety of a 2 hour film.
>Attacked a nuclear power plant
>It was MUTO.
>Attack a nuclear submarine
>That's also MUTO
>Eat nuclear warheads and destroy cities
>Of course it's all MUTO's work
Did they create MUTO to cut down on Godzilla's appearances?
They wanted to chase the Cloverfield audience instead of appealing to Godzilla fans.
>the Cloverfield audience
I feel bad for them, but they probably won't get what they want from the Cloverfield sequels either.
more like they introduced a new monster like most of the good movies do you morons. very few of the movies have only godzilla in them.
That's how a lot of hero Godzilla movies worked, they put focus on the bad guy monster tearing shit up for most of the front half of the film before Godzilla actually shows up.
seems 2014 just wanted the monsters Godzilla would fight to be compelling
think they were successful with the MUTOs
the male giving the female the nuke as a mating gift was kino
same with trying to make the human element compelling
i think they did that successfully, too
the way the mom dies early
killing off cranston
the son having to take on the responsibility of helping stop the monsters
everyone always wants more Goji, of course, but part of that is because what you do see of him is so well done
I do agree that the Mutos were good. Theres a reason fans over taken a liking to them since 2014 even if they are kinda generic american monsters. I suppose since they're the only ones in godzilla right now they do stand out as unique.
I do think the japanese monster design philosophy is better than the american philosophy.
i was just thinking that the CGI and generous amount of monster screen time in KotM and GvK may make them worth a rewatch since Minus One has me in a Goji mood, but you anons are really making me remember all the bad stuff
the neville page, aaron sims company, zbrush digital sculpting monster that has legs that are just bent tubes is an absolute plague on modern american creature design
started with independence day, i think, but that exoskeleton holding a tiny guy design was cool then
then there was the starship troopers arachnids, but they were done well and that movie is kino so whatever
then there was cloverfield
then there was the MUTOs
but if i wasnt lazy there are probably dozens of examples i could find of the same thing done worse
the digital sculpting artist websites are full of them, too
not a lot of originality out there
There's a feature on the 2014 DVD where Gareth Edwards talks about the challenges of creating a totally new monster that is both believable and fits within the design language of Godzilla. I think they nailed it. They're memorable, at least, although I wonder if they should've gotten proper names.
The only thing I don’t like about them is the name. The MUTOs isn’t super memorable and it’s like there’s two of them and they’re both just MUTO, literally a placeholder acronym name. I don’t know what they could have called them but I would have liked almost anything else.
>I don’t know what they could have called them but I would have liked almost anything else.
something relating to radiation would be my guess. Maybe Chernobog? Its the name of a demon and it sounds sort of like Chernobyl
It's only really a challenge if you're stuck in the american creature design mindset. Making a design that fits with godzilla is easy, hell they've even done it a couple times since like with the mammoth sloth thing.
Godzilla is just a 1930's t-rex with stegosaurus plates. Just combine cool animal traits and you get cool monsters.
>We call it Massive Unidentified Terrestrial Organism
>It is however no longer terrestrial
Yeah the name was always pretty bad. I think westerners are just terrified of making a cheesy name, so they often resort to some lame acronym so they can pretend it's serious.
What blows me away is that we're going all in on the hollow earth lore, but we're just gonna ignore the monsters like Megalon or Megaguirus that would be perfect for it. I know everyone is probably sick of hearing the "they should have used Gigan" spiel, but Megalon and Gigan really would be the perfect way to bring the aliens and hollow earth lore together.
>hollow earth
>no Megalon Megaguirus Gigan
yup
they just used it as a lazy way to fit in more monsters that dont fit instead of going with the ones that make sense
gay
homonsterverse
After KotM bombed I really doubt we'll be seeing many more toho monsters.
It didnt bomb, israelite producers are just greedy and wanted 80 billion in profit. GvK only did better because of covid but because it made more money, Hollywood is gonna double down on Kong even though Kong sucks and no one likes him.
It made 300 mil vs a 200 mil budget. After factoring in marketing costs it probably lost money. GvK made a 100 mil more which I don't think can be attributed to covid.
you morons still don't get it, legendary is a Chinese company, the movies are just then learning to make Hollywood blockbusters, they don't need 2 billions because the objective is to start an industry of international movies to rival hollyjew, that's why they keep pumping the movies, they never intender the movies to be huge, or else they would had worked with Sony or WB to get global reach. You only see the WB logo attached to the movies in north America and like 4 European countries. In my country Toho themselves tried to do the distribution for the movie. What you gays need to understand is that the Japs hate China, BUT see china as the main market for their media, that's why Legendary got the rights for Pokemon, Gundam, Godzilla and my hero academia, Japs want to use the Chinese to get big budget movies, while the Chinese want Jap IPs to compete with Hollywood. By supporting the monsterverse you are encouraging the destruction of America, is like literally giving money to Hamas
It's you again. Frick off with your Chinese obsession and conspiracy you don't even keep up to date with corporate news you pretend to be obsessed with. Seriously go frick yourself.
He’s right Monsterverse is Chinese. Skull island is Chinese. King Kong is from china mothra is from china now. It’s so obvious.
King Ghidorah is from China, Spacegodzilla is from China, Baragon is from China, Anguirus is from China, the Xiliens are from China.
>corporate news
Selling stock to the Saudis does not mean Legendary is not longer a Chinese company.
Not to Saudis they sold stake to Apollo early in 2022.
>Under the deal, Legendary management will regain operational, strategic and creative control of the company. Chinese giant Dailan Wanda will reduce its ownership position while remaining majority shareholder.
>while remaining majority shareholder.
Still chinese then.
No, they just explained it right there. Do you think State Street owns Disney?
For fricks sake. Fricking moron.
A lot of moronation going around. It's a Chinese conspiracy that the studio is owned by Americans and the decisions are done by Americans. I will neverg forgive the Chinese.
You need help son.
>By supporting the monsterverse you are encouraging the destruction of America
I will go watch it a dozen time then
>Kong sucks and no one likes him
absolute homosexual take
Kong is not only the first kaiju, but an important part of film history
USA #1
He's literally just a big monkey. Boring as frick.
>literally
more gay talk
im sure this sounds better in your native language
he is the original
the inspiration and the prototype
Kong was the inspiration for the kaiju genre but not a member itself. King kong is clearly a part of the "save princess from monster" genre ala creature from the black lagoon or robot monster.
This. I was just watching a video the other day where they were interviewing the suit actors who have played Godzilla over the years, and the original guy said that Tanaka showed him a screening of his personal print of King Kong for inspiration.
No one disuptes the historical relevance of Kong. He's a very shallow character compared to Godzilla though and there's just not much you can do with him. He's literally just a big fricking monkey. Boring as frick and will never match the popularity of Godzilla hence why they had to license Godzilla to try and get monsterverse off the ground. They're failing miserably btw.
He was working iwth Tsuburaya and he was also told to go to the zoo for inspiration.
Was it Tsubaraya? I could have sworn it was the producer, but it’s entirely possible that I’m misremembering which “T-guy” it was, I get them mixed up from time to time.
King Kong is kino and Legendary is doubling down on him because they want their movies to make money and Kong is more popular among general audiences.
>It didnt bomb
It didn't deliver, and that's the relevant part.
>It made 300 mil vs a 200 mil budget
Movies need to make around 2.5 their initial budgets to break even. Which is why most recent blockbusters are major flops.
i like gigan but he'd need quite the model mixup to work in the new franchise, ghidorah barely worked
Not much, honestly. Just make him organic instead of cyborg and don't have a sawblade, just spikes that if required can reciprocate.
It works. Governmental organizations (especially the military) have stupid acronyms and abbreviations for everything.
You don't need the Toho monsters exactly, just make new monsters with the spirit of them.
The Godzilla cartoon from the 98 movie managed to make cool new monsters every episode.
>Theres a reason fans over taken a liking to them since 2014 even if they are kinda generic american monsters.
How are they any more generic than an over grown moth or a three headed dragon?
How many giant moths and 3 headed monsters have you seen on the silver screen? Mothra and Ghidorah are pretty much the only ones.
The MUTO are so far the best attempt at creating new and modern kaiju for the Godzilla franchise. KotM had some okay newcomers that got handwaved like unwanted trash.
You now remember the kids and black guy in GvK being completely fricking stupid and annoying and having nothing to do with the plot, just being inserted in randomly.
>You now remember the kids and black guy in GvK being completely fricking stupid and annoying and having nothing to do with the plot, just being inserted in randomly.
This is the main reason I'll never be able to rewatch this movie in its entirety.
>Godzilla is all anyone cares about
>GxK was all about Kong and Kong only
>GxK 2 looks to be more of the same
I fricking hate Kong, Godzilla is a million times better, and besides, Red Monkey is literally the lamest villain ever after Godzilla literally fought SATAN(Ghidorah)
How would Godzilla find Red Monkey a problem at all when compared to that?
>Just had a movie introducing Kong fighting Godzilla
>Now we just get a Kong recolor as the villain
>"But anon, leaks indicate there's a secret big bad monster to fight Godzilla!"
>It's just a Godzilla recolor
The whole movie just feels like it's gonna be GvK again but this time they're fighting their player 2 counterparts. Frick man, I just want more cool monsters. I really liked the MUTOs.
It really baffles me that they're going all in on the hollow earth lore. Like, damn, Ghidorah was an alien? Not gonna do anything with that? They could even go the supernatural route or something. But how many fricking times do we have to see le ebin hollow earth?
>Like, damn, Ghidorah was an alien? Not gonna do anything with that?
GIGAN WHEN
GIGAN WHEN
GIGAN WHEN
nah, mutos are bland cloverfield ripoff americ**t shit
Wingard will get quesions about his bias but if Godzilla has an actual role in the film I'm gonna accept it and hope next time it's him in the main role maybe with Mothra.
Just do something to make me care a new look isn't enough I need a reason. Supposedly the movie is about the past and Godzilla lived in it. So it should be personal to him.
If people enjoy this movie they'll stick to the formula.
People were already complaining after test screening and they will after the movie and I'm not sorry. I hope they get really nasty because I'm tired of these morons always learning the wrong things.
Box office numbers will decide the direction of things.
also i thought the sound design for the MUTOs was kino
damn i might just rewatch 2014 after i hit up Mechagodzilla and Destroyah
I spent the last two weeks or so torrenting every Godzilla movie in the series, including ‘98 and Monsterverse, and have been watching them all in release order. I’ve got to say, the tonal whiplash you get going straight into ‘14 immediately after the credits rolled in Final Wars is really something. Same with ‘84 after Terror of Mechagodzilla.
Put him in
my cope is that that is female gojira
I doubt that Legendary's Kong will properly carry on the legacy of O'Brien's King Kong.
no, it's definitely too late for that
Skull Island set up nice potential for a modern take on Kong but then they blew it
but that doesn't mean Kong sucks
just shows how lame the KotM and GvK decisions have been, the new trailer is crammed with obvious bad decisions kek
The original King Kong is literally an ape version of The Lost World.
>literally
gays cannot help themselves
And guess which one regular people are still talking about to this day.
new monster that's gonna be axed from final cut
>they get rid of the archaeopteryx so they can make room for two big monkeys
I hate legendary so much
>so they can make room for two big monkeys
No, they got rid of it to replace it with Mothra.
Overall it doesn't look bad, it's sort of angelic, but its extremities seem too lanky for a kaiju.
Mosura is still better
I’m still irritated they gave Kong a fricking axe. A Bo staff would’ve been way more appropriate.
he's not fricking sun wukong
>sun wuKONG
>not KONG
uh yeah, sure buddy lol
they aren't even remotely similar archetypes
you two aren't serious right? you're not that autistic right?
>When Cooper was envisioning his giant terror gorilla idea, he wanted to capture a real gorilla from the Congo and have it fight a real Komodo dragon on Komodo Island
>Cooper was fascinated by Burden's adventures as chronicled in his book Dragon Lizards of Komodo where he referred to the animal as the "King of Komodo".
>It was this phrase along with "Komodo" and "Kongo" (and his overall love for hard sounding "K"-words) that gave him the idea to name the giant ape "Kong". He loved the name, as it had a "mystery sound" to it.
Gorilla isn't monke. Gorilla no swing. Gorilla smash
>he wanted to capture a real gorilla from the Congo and have it fight a real Komodo dragon
based
>Gorilla isn't monke.
Kong is closer to a chimp in body proportions
Still not monke
He monke. His whole shtick is being acrobatic, a staff would have been way cooler in that respect.
Shit up weeb axes were one if the first tools.
and sticks came before that!
He’s a big gorilla, not a big monkey. They’re not really known for their acrobatics.
Shit take.
He shouldn't have anything at all.
Why does Godzilla look like a stupid idiot
Because he knows exactly what kind of movie he's in.
-he's moving way too fast
-his movements look human, something that pretty much never happens, even back when there was a human wearing a godzilla suit
-his mouth is gaped like a zesty homie's butthole. There's no reason for that
-to top it off, godzilla does a fricking hero pose for no reason
Because he's drooling like a mouthbreather.
I want Gamera
That's like asking for Batman to be in the MCU.
Why would you want the israelites to ruin him too
How can you even ruin him? The only way you could do so would be to completely destroy his character. Gamera is
>A protector of humanity and children
>As brave and determined as they come
>Unbelievably strong, yet his enemies are even more so
You are asking us how israelites could ruin a character who's defining traits are benevolence, bravery, and strength? That's kind of their MO.
...Elaborate
consider what they do to every other character they touch.
They made Godzilla and King Kong pretty badass in the last movies they did.
That's not elaboration
Funny since Gamera literally destroy the pedo-cultists elites planning a drastic demographic changes thanks to kids sacrifices in Gamera Rebirth.
Gamera is now ennemy of israelites, reason more for them to ruin him
He did what
That would be cool. Doubt Legendary considers Gamera enough of an audience-draw to fork over the money for the license, though.
The Gamera rights holders actually wanted to do a Godzilla vs Gamera with Toho during the Millennium era but Toho turned the offer down.
If I was running the Monsterverse thing, I would make it the Roger Rabbit of kaiju movies. Gamera, Zilla, Cloverfield, Gorgo, all that shit.
Why not make it the actual MCU of kaiju movies like it was intended? Give other toho monsters their own movie and build them up before smashing them together?
I think a dedicated mothra and hedorah movie could've been really good and successful.
This I could get behind. Make it unironically moronic instead of accidentally moronic. Problem with that it you have to actually be more competent and talented to pull that off. It takes a legit genius to make something like Police Squad for instance. Diversity hires aren't up to it.
thats crazy i was just thinking about watching this before opening teevee
i just watched king kong 2005
KONG SIZED PISS
nu american godzilla unironically peaked at 2014, it's all been downhill since. basically just capeshit now.
LET’S FRICKING GOOOOOOOO
LOL wtf is that?!
On the left it's Shimo, Godzilla's ancestor I guess and on the right some Sephora or something. A new monster thatt nobody liked so it was replaced by Mothra in the movie.
Can somebody post the webm please?
What webm?
god bless japan.
Dear James Gunn...Have WW fight Giganta before WB goes bankrupt please.
Godzilla supports trans rights!
Oh you mean, some troon put the suicide flag in front of a Godzilla toy and got Toho to repost it on the american toho twitter account.
>"Toho officially endorsed it"
>US Toho account posts it then Toho Japan snubs the author once they find out what happened
They're not going to let it go just like now morons, fighting and getting ratio'd for the past five days now, found refugee in dancing extras in the original Godzilla.
At least one of them deactivated (but he'll be back). For someone who apparently hates getting into fights so much he sure gets involved in them a lot.
fricked it up by not making it the Thanos gauntlet
The "we swear we're not tourists, honest" crowd.
i am hoping different kaiju instead of a bunch of kong clones. maybe like when they revealed doomsday in bvs they'll reveal destoroyah or something but are keeping it secret
The movie leaked a lot. Mothra may be the one they're still hiding but she's also a pretty badly kept secret.
>secret
Its name is Shimo.
>leave Godzilla …to me
When is this piece of shit movie releasing? I'm trying to figure out how long we're going to have to endure the marketing shills shitting up the board with this goyslop.
April
You're not fitting in, tourist.
>t. marketing shill feeling the heat
Why is a tourist stalking Godzilla threads? You have no interests of your own?
There are currently 3 godzilla related things going on, Minus, GxK and the tv show. The number of threads are perfectly organic if you discount the schizo troony poster
It was like that before. We had a couple hangers on with no personality visiting threads about things they didn't care about but they always got bored and we were able to have a normal thread.
How is the show by the way? I haven't seen anything of it and haven't heard any discussion.
It was goingso well for the first three episodes. Episode six will come out this Friday and this is the one everybody told us will be a fan favorite even Kurt Russell said it was among his favorites. Episode seven will annoy people and the last three will be good again I don't know what the final score will be but it's better to wait until all episodes are out there,
god awful
It's very "current year." IYKYK
No, in what way? We're just halfway done so far the problem is that the more interesting characters weren't in the last two episodes and that's their problem.
I think they're not familiar with the idea Godzilla movies and shows still have people in them.
Goddamn it's funny to see you shill fricks try to justify this garbage.
>man Minus One was great! The human plot was amazing why can't Monsterverse be this good?
>>well tourist chud racist you see Monsterverse is silly showa era camp it doesn't have to be good
>man monsterverse human shit is garbage and full of woke identity politics and anti-white bullshit
>>well tourist chud racist you see Monsterverse human stuff is more elevated than the terrible cheesy human stuff in old Godzilla movies
lol get fricked troons no one is buying you garbage pilpul. We know what draws us to Godzilla and Monsterverse ain't it.
Who's "us"? Because you're a fringe fraction of a demographic no one is interested in.
kek
no one likes monsterverse, anon
KotM and GvK were absolute trash
GvK was alright. The monster fights were cool and I appreciated the reference to the original GvK.
some of them were very cool, yes
but the movies were overwhelmingly made up of the worst human stories in any Goji movie, with some random black autist hanging out with stranger things for no reason and people making marvel-lite King Gonorrhea quips
ecoterrorism would've been a cool idea for Goji human story, but it was wasted
I still think KotM's human plot was more stupid. At least in GvK everyones motivations made some sense and they kept the unrelated family drama to a minimum.
Wingard didn't want Godzilla in his story so he kept him to minimum and we see the same mistakes again with the new movie.
Clearly untrue.
>muh human story muh human story muh human story
theyre shit in all of the films homosexual shut the frick up
kek, no
you're a homosexual
name 1 godzilla movie with a human story so good that you would watch it without any kaiju in it at all. i'll wait.
It already has almost no kaiju in it anyway and I love it still.
dogshit. the most bargain bin generic story of its time period.
Godzilla vs. Gigan. Some butthole mangaka tring to stop aliens from taking over the world by building a sinister theme park is pretty entertaining
it was decent, and i loved how 70s it was, but it would still be nothing special without the fights.
>it would still be nothing special without the fights
lies. Scooby and the gang were enchanting especially after the government gave them cases of explosives to demolish the Godzilla shaped base set up by interstellar wienerroaches.
>you would watch it without any kaiju in it at all
what kind of israeli pilpul is this?
no one said that, moron
but Mothra
Final wars unironically. Great bad movie to watch with friends. Stalin-sama makes that movie.
What a world that we're getting sequels, spin offs and tie ins to the thing nobody watches or likes.
>chinks and israelites shitting out more trash is an indication of quality
K E K
E E E
K E K
What the hell is the world's demographics in your fantasy world?
what are you talking about?
legendary is chinks
hollywood is israelites
are you confused?
>He's a very shallow character compared to Godzilla though
this is an absolutely asinine statement
Kong even in the original has more emotional beats and characterization than any Goji iteration
Goji is a force of nature / spirit of revenge, he is used for the humans' characterization
he has very little character in his own right, even if he is awesome and i love him
>anon pretends that being hungry, wanting pussy, being lonely, and not wanting your personal spaces invaded are not very relatable motivations
You're flailing around now. Sad. Many such cases.
>anon thinks he's talking to one person
you noticeably have no argument
Kong has and always will have more character
please tell the thread what obsession that would be
you actually understand what is being said, right? you're not just a dumb ESL moron, are you?
Watch more Godzilla movies without checking your phone all the time if you missed his character.
ive seen them all
im not a phone zoomer
you have no argument and are a homosexual
Like Captain Marvel, right?
It's which marvel movie now? Now, how are Legendary movies so unpopular that nobody likes or watches them then?
>It's which marvel movie now?
Huh?
>Now, how are Legendary movies so unpopular that nobody likes or watches them then?
The GxK trailer is sitting at 90m views right now. Minus One might have given it a boost, but clearly some people care.
>Because you're a fringe fraction of a demographic no one is interested in.
lol just like israelites, homosexuals and trannies then?
no one on this board said any of those things ever.
The lesbian chick entire thing is that she has daddy issues, is LITERALLY stated by her mother that she needed more male influence but her mom loved to have an absent partner. Then we know the Lesbian also fricked up her lesbian relationship because it was unfaithful or something like that, she just abandoned the ugly lesbian. I dont mind it because she is a teacher from San Francisco, the gayest city in the planet, I'm just glad they went with a cute lesbian instead of some troony. The school had gay stairs, it was funny
>The lesbian chick entire thing is that she has daddy issues
I literally don't care. Get your fricking israelite marxist struggle session out of my Godzilla and just ENTERTAIN.
Godzila the simple franchise free from any messaging whatsoever. Don't you have some videos of youtubers talking about Godzilla DESTROYING WOKE DISNEY or something?
Same as "Star Trek was always woke".
Here's what you don't get troon. Even if that was true you still avoid the fact that it must have been that way and also somehow not alienating a huge portion of the audience otherwise it never would have been successful enough to last the test of time. You fricks have ruined every franchise and then stand around like you didn't do anything even as you can see the absolute failure of your efforts to generate revenue and positive fan engagement. You're completely fricking delusional but that's obvious as you cut your genitals off and swear you're a woman now.
lol. No one likes you. No one wants to buy your shit.
You actually use this pic? It's like you don't care to show how much of a tourist gay you are. You don't know the meaning of these movies not even Minus One and you're pretending to care about Godzilla being pink which assaults his masculinity. You're hitting every single tourist point. Your knowledge ends with Critical Drinker's video.
Not an argument. I accept your concession.
In the span of a few minutes you stated that Godzilla is just entertainment and there are no messages and politics involved, that there's a marxist conspiracy to make Godzilla gay and that the world's population consists of the Chinese and israelites and that's why there are more Godzilla movies made because no one likes them and no one watches them. There's nothing that you can say that can possibly salvage you right now you absolute homosexual. You haven't heard of Godzilla until last week at best.
>the world's population consists of the Chinese and israelites
im not that anon and holy shit that isn't what i said you dumb ESL Black person
What a weird new obsession.
>In the span of a few minutes you stated that Godzilla is just entertainment and there are no messages and politics involved
You made that up.
>that there's a marxist conspiracy to make Godzilla gay
You made that up.
>the world's population consists of the Chinese and israelites and that's why there are more Godzilla movies made because no one likes them and no one watches them.
You made that up.
>You haven't heard of Godzilla until last week at best.
See above.
KEK those pics
Normies are discovering that Godzilla's range in tone is limitless but to the fans it's nothing new.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
A truly flexible character can be many things without compromising their core
reminds me of Ninja Turtles, and why that one is still relevant to this day.
That's exactly what happened On Minus One's opening weekend.
stop replying to yourself anon and take your medication, your family worries about you.
its okay if you like capeshit so much you want it in everything but stop lying to yourself anon
So New Empire is guaranteed to bomb, right? Black person? homosexual?
>So New Empire is guaranteed to bomb, right?
Nah there's plenty of normies out there with brains comped by seed oils, s()y and corn syrup who will lap that slop up. I honestly doubt it will flop as bad as the marvels but I guess it could happen.
Jesus Christ, I haven’t made it there yet. They just couldn’t help themselves, could they?
It's all they know. Their brains are full of horseshit israeli marxist propaganda and psych meds.
...it's a flashback in one episode showing one character being a hypocrite all along
It's israeli marxist homosexual subversion.
Just because you have some shallow explanation for eating fresh shit served, doesn't mean you should open wide for the airplane.
>godzilla stubs his toe
good answer, was going to say also that the Tokyo SOS and Mechagodzilla two parter with Kiryu and all that is good human story, too
imagine being triggered by two chicks kissing.
It triggers my benis
imagine not hating gays and israelites with all your being
correct, i dont, because im not an easily offended baby
>I am ignorant of evil, therefore I am good!
>I know not the folly of my ways yet proclaim myself righteous!
>Evil is perspective, and I have none! My morals remain unshaken for being formless!
>My mind is melded by the status quo, and for that I am happy!
>Signed, Anonymous, in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty and three.
>I am ignorant of evil
stopped reading, you're an illiterate low iq moron, reading further would be like walking into the Chernobyl reactor of stupid and give me brain cancer.
Is it like with Elon Musk and that MAGA communist he was talking about? How they don't like GTA because you have to go against the law and shoot the cops? What's happening? Who the frick turned the switch?
>we just want to get married
because
>we will cut your kids' genitals off without your consent
die in a fire.
>because
became
>TwO wOmEn KisS mEaNs KidS MuTiLAtEd R SuMtHiN!
Imagine needing it shoved into your face at all times.
>needing
who said that? why are you idiots making shit up no one is saying?
You clearly do, white knighting for it this hard.
>You have to be REALLY MAD ABOUT IT or else YOU REALLY LOVE IT!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
no. i just dont care.
And yet you keep arguing, so pulling the “I don’t care” move is a crock of shit.
im arguing with you about what you keep pretending i am saying. On the specific subject, i do not care.
back in my day people went to see a movie just because two girls kissed in it
welcome to nu4chin where everyone is a Church Lady
jews used to be subtle about the subversion and generally entertain. The mask has slipped lately mainly because their diversity hires aren't competent enough to make a quality product even if they removed the subversion so it all just becomes so clear because of how ham-handed it is thanks to 80IQ browns and femoids not having the cognitive ability to be subtle. israelites always overextend and that's why 110.
>ham-handed
you are the 80IQ here
Because it was a novelty back then. Now, it’s just annoying, and it’s clearly being defended by people who need it constantly beamed into their eyes, lest their fragile worldview crumble to dust.
This shit wasn’t common even a decade ago, and anyone even vaguely paying attention notices how forced it is. You turned that stovetop element up just a little too fast, and the frog noticed that you’re trying to boil it. All you had to do was leave the kids alone, and people would probably be way more tolerant of your degeneracy.
>Because it was a novelty back then
no, it was against the law back then and very ignorant people would mistreat gay people. It's less so now so you can actually have gay people in a tv show. Gay people can be openly gay now so you see it more than 20 years ago.
>you see it more than 20 years ago
All part of the plan comrade.
I hope it’s going somewhere, but I’m two episodes deep right now, and I’m largely just bored. There’s some interesting worldbuilding in Japan, I like the Russell boys doing their thing, and I like Ders as a younger version of Bill Randa (John Goodman in Skull Island), but couldn’t care less about the Japanese family drama shit. I also rolled my eyes that they somehow figured a way to shoehorn an ugly, angry, chubby (but still letting her gut hang out of a midriff shirt), dreadlocked black chick into a plot involving Japanese people in Japan, and because this is a modern production, she’s also the designated “Smart One”, a L33T hacker. She looks like she smells bad, and she doesn’t particularly have an appealing attitude, and I’m expected to believe that this well put together Japanese dude is pining away for this Uruk-hai looking b***h.
>I haven't seen anything of it and haven't heard any discussion
Which should have served as a damning red flag.
Legendary should have asked Nishikawa Shinji or Maeda Masahiro to design their new monsters.
Do we know if there are any returning monsters in this one, or is the antagonist just that new Kong?
Godzilla, Kong and Mothra returned
Villains are Skar King (bad ape that started the war between Godzilla and Kong species) and Shimo (the first monster and Godzilla's distant ancestor who freezes shit).
There are also other boring apes Hollow earth monsters and at least one arachnid we see at the beginning when Godzilla saves Rome and then takes a nap in the Colosseum.
So still no Destroyah
Maybe they'll feel secure enough to tease the sequel. For everything that has been leaked no one ever talked about the ending. What changes at the end of the movie? I don't know but we know they're planning more movies.
>What changes at the end of the movie?
literally nothing. How many of these shit fests do they have to release before you can accept it's never going to be good just more soulless capeshit-tier slop?
>she's my favorite
How? She gets fricked up every time she shows up, she's a giant magic loser of a goddess
You are a casual, Mothra had a 80% victory rate up until KotM. Mothra Leo specially
See why we need regular threads now? To weed out the tourists who aren't even interested in the topic.
You're the tourist. We had comfy as frick regular threads for a year leading up to Minus One thanks to countdown anon. It's only since the garbageverse trailer dropped you absolute homosexual shills have popped up to shit all over everything as per usual. There's a reason you're miserable and it's you.
>more Kongshit+capeshit
I sleep.
It's not 2021 anymore. /m/ is the best place to discuss Godzilla now. Tourists, trojan horses, hangers on however we call them they don't go there so it's an actual discussion between people who know what they're discussing and not /misc/homosexualry because Yellow Flash and Criticla Drinker made videos about Godzilla.
Then why don't you go there? Why are you here?
you're the one ruining the thread, homosexual
do they seethe about gays and trannies 24/7? because if not i'll migrate.
It's definitely slower but there's less bullshit.
You'll fit right in there. Hurry along. Bye now.
>Anything that doesn’t affirm my worldview is /misc/homosexualry
I think that you might be a part of the problem here. By all means, go to your containment board.
For me it's the "Godzilla is not political" argument. Casual gays ruining everything as always bringing some moronic youtube culture war with them.
Identity politics is different from historical politics.
Godzilla was political but yet still managed to deliver a product that people loved and didn't alienate or outright antagonize people into hating it like current year holylwood Black person homosexuals.
>x was always this way
No it wasn't troon and YWNBAW
>Disney
Holy shit Yellow Flash audience. Stop revealing yourself, casual. It's you who ruiin every discussion bringing your moronic boring war into this and some irrelevant bullshit because you have nothing to add to the topic. Your brain is just so rotted away with years of exposure to all this bullshit it's all you can talk about.
>he thinks I started the war
I just wanted to grill.
Is anyone else bothering to watch that monarch show? It's so stupid and gay. Half way through the second episode I just kept randomly replaying Enter The Gladiators off my laptop over a scene because everyone's some bumbling, melodramatic moron. So much for a show about monster wrangling lol.
I shut it off in the first episode when that insufferable uber hacker sheboon who just happens to live in Tokyo showed up.
>Half way through the second episode I just kept randomly replaying Enter The Gladiators off my laptop over a scene because everyone's some bumbling, melodramatic moron.
Legendary, hire this man.
it's really not that bad, youre just autistic.
Why are there so many people determined in the defence of being served substandard quality media?
Because it's not about the media it's about the agenda. Toho is about the media. israelitelywood is about subverting human civilization. It's a death cult.
see
>Why are there so many people determined in the defence of being served substandard quality media?
do you hate every godzilla that isnt 1954 and Minus One?
Ah yes a real fan's argument is "Godzilla was always shit."
you fricking homosexuals. lol.
>"Godzilla was always shit."
Who said that? wtf are you fricking talking about? are you having a fricking psychotic episode? the orderlies are fricking up by letting you have internet access anon.
MV Godzilla really does feel like a fanfic version of the character
written by a furry, a troon or some other mentally ill degenerate.
I mean, seriously
>Mothra GF
>Le teamups
>Taking his "King" title as literally as possible
Good. It was created by fans unlike the franchises that are specifically avoiding hiring fans and are dying. Monsterverse was co-created by the first Godzilla director who could be called a fan because he was young enough when he directed it in the 70s.
a lot of things are like that, like James Bond, Star Trek, House of the Dragon, etc
The simpsons is basically fan fiction now
That’s literally what they’ve been since the beginning. Godzilla Raids Again immediately threw out the grim tone of ‘54, and by the time they got to the 60s, Toho came to the totally unforeseen conclusion that children like the immortal dragon dinosaur monster that smashes buildings, and fights the army, and essentially made it family-friendly.
I am looking forward to Godzilla X Kong because I am a fan of the Hollow Earth theory.
>I am a fan of the Hollow Earth theory.
Post prolapsed anus.
the fact they couldnt tell you're memeing tells you the level of double digit iq you're replying to.
Tolerance is the virtue of a dying civilization.
you mentally ill morons literally cannot have a discussion about anything without most of it involving "the woke agenda". its all so fricking tiresome.
>its all so fricking tiresome
This is the point of current year info war. It's designed to wear you out and demoralize you. It's designed to ruin everything so when globohomosexual rides in to save the day with their technotronic slave grid you suck their dicks for giving you a moment's peace at the cost of your soul. Refuse. Resist.
you are the people wearing me out. you.
I will not go quiet into that good night.
Godzilla threads used to be consistently good now there's too much trash from everywhere. It's like now Godzilla went from a really popular franchise that still wasn't as big compared with others to something that's the new cool thing to be into even if it's just for show.
locusts swarming from food source to food source as they destroy everything and abandon it. It's a death cult.
it happens to many things anon(s)
Cinemaphile is a board that needs forced anon removed. Since it's basically a second /misc/ board it should get similar treatment and tag every poster in each thread.
Movies are normie-friendly hobby so it became the "random" board so bsaically another /misc/
>Movies are normie-friendly hobby
Yes so lots of normies are being woken up by the blatant subversion on display. They took the mask off and then acted surprised when jim and betty normal gay revolted in horror and stopped paying attention to their propaganda.
you're trying too hard. if you're not gonna talk about godzilla you should probably stop posting.
>culture war doesnt exist if i gaslight them hard enough
we know what you are
unironically touch grass, child. none of this matters anywhere near as much as you think it does. just enjoy your life.
>child
You are in a thread about a giant talking lizard and a big monke boi
yes that has been popular for almost 70 years
Oh so that means it's OK for children like you to watch
totally bro. ill get right on that bro. ill enjoy my life bro. have a nice day bro
if you dont you will lead a very miserable life indeed. one day years from now you will look back and realise that one anon in the godzilla thread was right.
You do realize you are
"dude bro"
It's starting to look like most people won't be able to enjoy their lives if something isn't done about the people trying to control everyone's lives.
>Gojira was reported to have been spotted in Argentina a decade later...
Peace out Black person homosexuals.