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Gorosaurus anon, where are you? I need you to look at this image again.
Zilla vs Manda
That's so fricked up. So cruel... Gorosaurus didn't deserve that, bros...
FPBP
>everyone compares it to showa
>love showa, go in expecting that
>not even close, just really shitty writing and garbage ending
What gives? The movie was genuinely just bad.
I enjoyed it. On par with King of the Monsters.
I liked it more than GvsK.
>garbage ending
That ending felt really abrupt. I wanted more things wrapped up.
It really did happen fast, but there's really not much else you can do with it.
Scar King is defeated
Jia is established as new Mothra Iwa priestess but still refuses to leave her scientist mommy's side
Godzilla has taken care of business, can go back to sleep and the world has to deal with it.
Kong finally has people to share Hollow Earth with, and his new BFFs Suko and Shimo
Not much else you can talk about. The only thing that didn't seem resolved was whether or not Bernie decided to release all that footage after Trapper called him out.
>Godzilla has taken care of business, can go back to sleep and the world has to deal with it.
Why has he been sleeping on land near humans? His movements destroy shit in those cities. Surely he can chill at the two underwater lairs he has?
The coliseum is cozy
Now that I think about it, he kicked Tiamat out of her lair in Dominon, then killed her when she tried protecting her new lair.
We've been talking about this the past couple of threads but these past two movies have kind of thrown the "hero" Godzilla image that people have of him out the window. At the end of the day, he's a creature who's out to keep his crown. It's literally okay if he's doing it. The world is his territory to frick up if he chooses, and the other titans basically need to keep themselves in check and stay away from civilized areas.
And as this movie established, Tiamat found out the hard way herself that you don't even need to be doing shit to people for Godzilla to come your way.
>And as this movie established, Tiamat found out the hard way herself that you don't even need to be doing shit to people for Godzilla to come your way.
I dunno why I found this so fricking funny.
It is funny. Just literally chilling in her lair and here he comes like "Aye b***h, I like your energy source. Give your King the goodies." and when she's like "Get off my lawn!" he just fricks her shit.
She was doing something though from his perspective. Imagine if you were the king of a medieval nation and a local barron is just sitting on the most rich vein of iron ever discovered on the entire planet and has no interest in sharing. Now imagine that an enemy nation has declared war on you and the barron is just sitting there with a weak defense force that you could easily trounce.
He knew she was territorial when they fought before when she lived in his old lair he lost to a Kong! He could have just beaten her up and hand her flee again!
I dunno. Like another anon said last thread, it's pretty hilarious that Ghidorah can bend so many to his will without murdering them but Godzilla himself can't kowtow a sea serpent. The movie and the last in my opinion is just throwing this idea of a benevolent king out the water after the ending of King of the Monsters.
>it's pretty hilarious that Ghidorah can bend so many to his will without murdering them but Godzilla himself can't kowtow a sea serpent.
Wasn't Ghidorah commanding the Titans with literal mind control? Godzilla has to boss them around the old fashioned way.
It's been a while so don't quote me but my recollection says "No". He was a LIAR King that set himself up as alpha when he's not even from planet earth, but after he took down Godzilla he had everyone doing his bidding. He still had to whoop even Rodan before making him bend the knee.
The plots of all these movies sans 2014 have always been
>FAKE Alpha vs REAL Chad
You're not wrong.
Hey Ghidorah was a gigachad to be fair, to date out of everyone he’s still come the closest to taking out Godzilla. Literally needed his girlfriend to sacrifice herself for more power to beat him, and even then Ghidorah would’ve won if he just had a little more time to siphon his energy.
Agreed. The way she flinched at the pain crystal and how scared the apes handling her were made it pretty clear she’d have gotten out of there if Skar King didn’t keep cracking the whip.
I loved the little detail in KOTM where Ghidorah was all quick to pose upright and "dragon" like when he was dick swinging with Godzilla on equal terms, but whenever he was in a position of advantage, he laid low to the ground and acted really snake like. idk if that was intentional or incidental, but it gave legendary KG a really cool shitter personality
Yeah, the slithering feels like his version of a voice tic or something but you can tell he makes a point of letting Godzilla know he’s not a b***h who needs to abuse flight to frick him up. He only used the sky drop move on Godzilla AFTER he was already beaten as a finisher.
Also it’s hard to tell with all the flailing, but Ghidorah was visibly panicking when he got dragged underwater. He KNEW he was fricked. Hell it’s probably how he ended up in the south pole, Ghidorah clearly dominates on open terrain because his heads are agile enough to feint out the breath, he’s too alien to scorch easily with radiation breath unlike the Kongs and he’s the smartest kaiju. But he cannot fricking swim for shit.
This kind of shit is why it annoys me that Adam Wingard and Legendary decided to essentially focus all of their movies on Kong, simply because he can emote the easiest, being a monke and as such has the most character.
But that's ignoring the fact that in KOTM they already gave all of the monsters plenty of character just in the way they carried themselves.
There's a rumor that GxK was originally a standalone Kong: Hollow Earth movie, but was rewritten into include Godzilla after how unexpectedly successful GvK was. Which, given how tacked on Godzilla's role was in the final product, I think might actually be the case.
I mean, I don’t like it either but I get it. They tied in the girl’s lore to kong and presumably they want her actress to justify her paycheck, any American marketing group will tell you a monke is an easier sell than a lizard and it gives them an excuse to have Godzilla act as a heel occasionally.
To be fair, I kind of got the impression Ghidorah has literal telepathic powers similar to Mothra from GvK.
>Conveniently, the Ghidorah skull activates to lure Goji towards him
>Novelisation all but spells out that Ghidorah intends to hollow out the consciousness of Serizawa’s son and turn him into it’s puppet
>It’s mentioned in the previous movie that Ghidorah is like a goddamn octopus or starfish or something, can regenerate Kevin from a stump
>Rich idiot frick briefly mentions he got the idea to do Mechagodzilla from a dream. Did Kevin give him the idea?
I dunno how true it is, but I thought Godzilla more or less rules through fear and Ghidorah uses actually mind powers as well as his terraforming winds to make the planet more like his homeworld. With Mothra being the brains of Godzilla’s operation since she seems to have telepathic powers too, the capacity to prioritise human life, MUCH greater restraint (which is the only reason why a lot of the humans and Rodan are still alive) and now has turned out to be ruling an entire human civilisation in the hollow earth that she presumably taught how to control the fricking gravity, making rival kaiju helpless in an environment where she can fly and thwip-thwip them.
>I thought Godzilla more or less rules through fear and Ghidorah uses actually mind powers
I thought the same thing. When Godzilla is the Alpha, the other Titans can still clearly fight against him if they want. No one dared to try that with Ghidorah. "Well, Ghidorah is stronger than Godzilla, so they were more scared of him." The whole reason Godzilla is the Alpha is because he killed Ghidorah.
It was better than GvK and pure slopkino.
>shitty writing and garbage ending
So almost every showa movie?
Showa has by far the best human storylines.
godzilla doing a wrestling move on kong was pretty showa
It's trying to be Showa era Godzilla. Doesn't mean they're succeeding though.
Showa was charming and it never tried to be more than it was. Legendary tries very hard to let you know how serious and epic and funny they are while being none.
Writing and acting was extremely shitty , movie was extremely predictable, characters were extraordinarily shallow. It's basically a kids movie for adults. Thank God we got another Godzilla movie a few months ago that was actually decent
>Skar King has a harem of beat up slave apes that flinch when he looks at them, carrying children with his fur color
Kind of shocking not gonna lie
Skar King been getting that Kongussy.
The males were forced to watch.
>the mini kong has red fur
No Millie, no watchie
Genuinely disappointed that they couldn't get universal or whoever the frick it is at this point to play ball and let them name drop a quick "king" kong at the end of the movie now that he is a literal king of a monkey nation. I dont really blame them though it would probably be an expensive israeli nightmare
Is it true that this is finally the movie where Godzilla isn't jobbing to anyone?
Godzilla is so powerful he one-shots the final boss into uselessness before Kong and the boss's slave go in for the kill. Godzilla's entire involvement in Kong's plot is because Kong and Mothra ask him to come kick some ass after he spent the movie explicitly powering up as much as he can.
true kino is if there was a scene at the end of monarch detecting some energy coming from the moon and we get a glimpse of gigan, and we find out that THAT is the reason he was powering up
Who's he jobbed to before? Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla? He should be jobbing to them, they're among his toughest foes.
I guess. In terms of screentime it honestly felt like a Kong movie that also features Godzilla sometimes. Every time they cut back to what Godzilla was doing it was like half as long as the Kong scenes
This
is accurate. There are many legitimate criticisms about how they used Goji in this movie. The one thing there ISN’T to complain about, is Godzilla jobbing-they made him to other Titans what other Titans are to Doug.
If there was ever any doubt, this movie confirmed the Goji seen in the first movie was basically a coma patient relearning how to walk. He kills Scylla and Tiamat in seconds the moment one gets uppity and the other turned out to be holding a powerup he needed. He proceeds to undergo a mutation that gives him 20x energy output
However long the war between his race and the Kongs has been going, apparently Goji soloed Skar King and his entire army including the even bigger ice kaiju and rocked their shit so hard they ended up all trapped in the deeper part of the hollow earth. Movie tries to qualify this with the feat almost killing them but like…it’s made clear Kong is on a level to the low-tier kongs because he lays them out in a 3v1, and Goji thrashed Kong in GvK when he stopped fricking around
>Kong gets a token win when he fights Goji on the surface where he lays him out with his new gauntlet. It’s a legit knock down. For about 10 seconds. Then Goji wakes up while being dragged to the hollow earth and everyone is reminded Kongs of any stripe just fricking die if exposed to his breath for more than a few seconds
Shimo is so big her head is basically the size of Goji’s torso, and it’s made clear Kong is utterly fricked against her when she fricks up his hand when he tries to block her breath with the zilla scale axe. On the other hand, against Goji the ONLY thing she has going for her is mass. He just bumps into her, throws her off grumpily and keeps going; at no point is the ice breath presented as a threat to him, and in fact he undoes her attempt to freeze the planet again in seconds
Reviews make it sound like a blast, it definitely looks like a fun, dumb, popcorn movie. Excited to watch it tomorrow!
I was surprised to hear Zilla's roar mixed in with Evolved Godzilla's.
>SHE likes it
/tv/bros...we won
>don't worry Kong has a strateg-
>critical miss.webm
I laugh every time I see this shit. Did he not have any situational awareness in the heat of the battle?
GxK was fun enough, and I love how the monsterverse handles Kong, but I want to go back to only thinking of Toho movies again.
box office forecasts are looking good. looks like slop will remain on the menu
>shimo watching godzilla fire a beam into the sky with awe
cute little moment, hope they interact more in the future.
I really liked how expressive the monsters were, especially her, the facial movements were subtle but enough to tell what she was thinking.
Right, like you can see the look on her face when she realizes Skar King has no hold on her anymore and she's immediately ready to frick his shit.
kong has some of the smuggest expressions i've ever seen, top tier
That smug look after he duffed Skar's tooth out said it all.
Senpai kakkoii
I knew it would be good everyone thought it would be woke
skar king is a red hair that enslaves tribes of blacks, while forcing and torturing white woman to do his bidding using whip
If I liked GvK, do you think I'd like this new movie?
I liked all the fight scenes in GvK, especially the end fight scenes.
yes but know its way more kong than godzilla. the fights and the kong stuff are real good, but the human plot and the godzilla stuff feels a bit half baked.
Can agree. They doubled down on Kong hard since he's got more emotional stakes involved. All Godzilla does is go on his training arc while wrecking anything that's in his way. He's getting his moments but at the end of the day Godzilla at this point is what Ryu was in the SFV story: A nuke to be pointed at a target.
I'm gonna shamelessly copypasta my drunk shitty post from the last thread
>Skar King and Shimo out of the picture in the hollow earth
>Power vacuum is filled by resurgent Seatopia and their God Megalon, ancient enemies of the Mothra people
>Gigan arrives on earth to find Ghidorah and figure out why the frick earth isn't prepped for invasion yet
>Monarch uses the principles of the orca, specs of mecha godzilla and anti-gravity tech to build a prototype mass shifting Titan Liaison System named: Joint Automated Geometrically Ultrarelative Assessment Robot
I didn't read your post all the way to the end last thread because I was drunk too but I've been wondering how they intend on adapting Jaguar if they attempt to take a crack at him at all.
As of this last movie, it's apparent that keeping science crews safe in the hollow earth is hard, so they need a bodyguard/liaison. Jet Jaguar would be perfect for bodyguard work and first contact with human and kaiju.
Jet Jaguar WILL be Bryan Cranston in a suit. I will not accept any alternatives.
To get the idea across for people who haven't seen the movie yet: New Empire is Godzilla vs. Megalon. It is a movie about Jet Jaguar and Godzilla doesn't have a major role until the end of the movie for the final fight. Now, Godzilla shows up before being recruited in New Empire, unlike GvsMegalon, but Kong definitely gets a Jet Jaguar-level amount of focus until then.
I can't wait for the honeymoon phase to over
My homie Doug stole a whole dog
He got that dawg in him
I like the idea Doug is just this hungry little bastard that keeps stealing food from everyone but also simply not ambitious, malicious or enough of a threat for any of the major kaiju to hold a grudge
He’s just like some pigeon that keeps following you around and eating your bread. Back when Goji ruled the surface he probably followed him everywhere to eat the kills in his wake.
I like to think that Doug and Godzilla are parallel evolutionary divergences from whatever Shimo's species were. One went all in on aggression and active dominance, and the other just skink-maxed into a benign scavenger
Kek, headcanon accepted. I mean it makes sense, evolution is just whatever survives to breed so there’s going to be reptile overachievers and reptile underachievers as long as both can actually frick.
>Godzilla’s species lives a high-risk, active lifestyle that gives them radiation-powered adaptive mutation but also drives them to extinction because they keep fighting bugs that can hard counter their radiation, ape armies, and take point for defending turf from Ghidorah
>Meanwhile there’s probably a shitload of Dougs in the hollow earth just because they live a nice comfy life stealing food and waddling beneath notice
>Ghidorah probably doesn’t even know Doug exists because Doug’s just such a non-factor to his plans
Why is there two godzillas?
They underdelivered on the doug return I expected him hanging out with mini-kang
This, and also helping Kong out when being chased by the apes.
would have been fricking hilarious to have Doug just opportunistically eat one of the maimed kongs. Like the pic rel bit from the last Jurassic World movie.
I don't understand why Cinemaphile hate GxK. It's literally a high budget showa era 2v2 kaiju tag team complete with the lighthearted and cheeky tone.
Idk a lot of people said they didn’t like Godzilla having a pink dorsal fin, I just saw it as a crazy power up with weird colored energy
The movie explains the pink as it being the result of Godzilla stealing all of another Kaiju's stored power. Presumably his color scheme will go back to normal after he expends it all.
Godzilla is treated like a plot device to prevent Shimo from interrupting the le epic monkey fight. Fun enough movie but pretty disappointing for G fans. I guess we only can rely on Toho to deliver Goji kino
Getting sick of watching Zilla kino and constantly having the monke forced on me. He’s now featured way more than the King.