This is how you do a chthonic eldritch deity.
>doesn't speak
>doesn't interact with reality in conventional ways at all
>instead warps it by its mere presence
>is an immovable universal constant not destructible by any normal means
>even the only cheat a mortal managed to find doesn't destroy it and doesn't grant mortal complete control over it, just makes her a part of it
>the only person it does communicate with due to Betty's influence, it does so by visions
>exists and functions on another plane altogether
GOLB is... what tryhards like Darkseid wish they could be.
>Barely even feels like a background threat despite all the buildup and has a shitty design on top of it
God Adventuregays are delusional
It's almost like not every antagonistic force is meant to be a flashy pew pew villain to defeat.
If Betty could do anything, she could've turned into herself, but she's forced to stay inside GOLB and can only influence it in limited ways.
>It's good because the threat doesn't feel threatening
Jesus fricking Christ you homosexuals are reaching Hollywood levels of fart-sniffing. Adventurehomosexuals are mentally ill
Am I missing something? The last episodes literally show how 'Glob' measures the Lich's whole existence into tetris cubes. 'Glob' is literally the source of magic in the world, Chaos manifested.
Do you want the deity to stand on two feet and legs and speak like everyone else? Stop being so asinine you homosexuals.
A cosmic deity would and should feel like a background threat, it is you who is moronic
And yet Lovecraft, the man who basically created the entire concept and is still used as the ultimate template for them to this day, made his cosmic deities the direct threat in nearly every story of his. Curious.
GOLB is a direct threat in the finale. Every character is actively trying to stop it while it doesn't even acknowledge anyone besides Betty when she makes the wish.
A song tears its entire stomach open.
>in the finale
And that's the problem, because GOLB was hardly present in the story until that point so hardly felt threatening. They needed to build GOLB up more and should have woven him more into the story,
is a great example of a similar being that didn't appear until the end, but was still referenced and directly causing enough problems to feel like a credible threat by the end.
>GOLB is a direct threat in the finale
All he does is sit on his own ass, how is that threatening?
by creating monsters and sending them to attack
>b-but he was just passively
He was summoned and he attacked. he attacked Mars as well and then ran off after Glob Grob Mars head beat him up.
>in nearly every story
not really no. there are exceptions but a lot Lovecraft's most famous stories will mention cosmic entities but keep them in the background and use some lesser creature as the driving force of the story
>shadow over innsmouth
primary threat are the fish-people who worship dagon, not dagon himself
>mountains of madness
primary threat are the shoggoths, which aren't cosmic deities but a race of mutants created by a bunch of aliens
>dunwich horror
primary threat isn't yog-sothoth but rather his hybrid children
You’re responding to morons who think Fionna and Cake was actually good. There is nothing for you except pitiful cringe.
homosexuals like you are the reason Bill sucked in Gravity Falls by the end.
Cosmic threats should feel like threats, if you want to make them indirect then it is better to have their acolytes be a huge threat and when they successfully summon the cosmic horror have their mere presence cause horrible shit.
Having the cosmic horror randomly show up is moronic unless it is purposeful why it is interested with lower life forms
>homosexuals like you are the reason Bill sucked in Gravity Falls by the end.
No, Bill sucked in Gravity Falls because Hirsch literally had no fricking clue how to make a truly cosmic villain feel threatening. His style when it comes to big bads doesn't fricking work for a cosmic horror.
>literally had no fricking clue how to make a truly cosmic villain feel threatening
Describes GOLB as well.
The webm is an example of a being that fricks with lower life forms as a game like a little kid making cleaning his room fun, not an example of how they all should be.
Something like GOLB is only cool if it does fricked up shit just by showing up. Getting eaten by a cosmic horror and not immediately dying shows that it's not even that spooky. Compare that with the fact that it can be forced to merge with a human just from some petty artifact crown makes it even more of a jobber since it means that it is able to be manipulated (presumably against it's will) by humans with not a whole lot of effort.
GOLB is lame as frick, and Bloodborne is overrated as frick.
Giygas in Earthbound is spooky because you can't beat him the normal way like with all other enemies, just with a desperation move. GOLB meanwhile is BTFO by singing (which was the answer to a ton of other problems in AT already) and it wasn't built up like that would have been a weakness (or powerup for the protagonists) either. Earthbound and Mother in general meanwhile makes a big deal about music so it makes sense for the villain to be defeated by it considering the backstory. Since I brought up Sentai, the same thing applies in Kyoryuger but in reverse where singing instead powers the protagonists up (instead of defeating the villain) and that is built up throughout the series (they even have to dance to power up from the begining). GOLB comes from nowhere and his defeat also comes from nowhere, the entire thing is just moronic.
>moronic offtopic Rangergay is moronic
The closest thing to GOLB in tokusatsu is Ultraman stuff.
>The closest thing to GOLB in tokusatsu is Ultraman stuff.
Haven't seen it and I'm not even comparing GOLB to anything because he sucks.
The closest comparison to him is fricking Bill since both are shitty cosmic horrors that fall flat.
All I'm doing is listing different cosmic threats that are better and listing why they are better, not comparing the two.
Comparing GOLB to anything is an insult considering it sucks.
Okay.
>it means that it is able to be manipulated (presumably against it's will) by humans with not a whole lot of effort.
Except Betty had to go through a frickton of effort to attain the crown and the knowledge to defeat it. Travelling through time, making a deal with God's insane brother, turning insane in the process, learning to perform a complex ritual and even then only being able to connect to it via the crown.
>GOLB meanwhile is BTFO by singing
This blatant lie again?
I'm gonna take that webm as a concession that you don't know what's good in any capacity whatsoever. Golb reminds me of Bloodborne. Only after unlocking all the secrets of the universe can you get an audience with it. You're so dumb. "Minions".
Is this that new Fantasy Sentai show? Is it worth watching? I didn't really dig the characters' designs all that much...
I'm really not a fan of earings
Name? Looks interesting.
Bill's problem is that Hirsch tried to do a dark humor Freddy Krueger type of villain, which doesn't exactly work with a character who's not actually allowed to kill anyone on-screen in gruesome ways. So all you're left with is a thing that's more funny (and I use that word loosely) than scary.
>This entire post.
Man, Millennials are fricking failures through and through.
>buildup
what buildup? the only mentions i recall EVER of him prior to showing up was people cursing
This. Actual eldritch horror is supposed to at the very least look cool and spike intrigue, that shitty design and concept does neither.
>buildup
In your head? What a fricking moron for thinking golb was a threat
>Gets defeated by singing
GOLB was never defeated by singing, only the abomination it created were. Why do you lack the capacity to follow a cartoon plot? It's not even a case of forgetting, because you morons have been saying it for 5 years when it's objectively WRONG.
>Gets
>Defeated
>By
>Singing
What would’ve happened if Simon sung to Golbetty?
>GOLB was never defeated by singing
Literally was. It's crazy to me that people get so butthurt over a kids show that they deny reality.
>Why do you lack the capacity to follow a cartoon plot?
They're the same morons who think Cthulhu was knocked out by a boat, pathetic idiots with no media literacy
Damn it really is like Final Crisis.
They only pierced his stomach. Betty was the one who used the crown to merge with it and will it away with her wish. Even then that was an interpretation of the wish statement "I wish to have the power to keep Simon safe." She couldn't even wish the eldritch deity away or dead.
>She couldn't even wish the eldritch deity away or dead
And yet she could wish to mind dominate the "abstract concept" and command it to run away from the planet and her gay bf?
Weak as frick, shitty writing, shitty character, 0/10
Work on your viewing comprehension. Golb has no mind to dominate
Work on your reality acceptance. Golb was attacking earth and then Betty dominated it and now tells it what to do and now the "embodiment of chaos" is giving homosexual old men love letter adventures
That means she created a far strongest being.
that means she is the strongest being, since she calls the shots.
That's not uncommon in fiction? The Elder Scrolls had Chim and anti-Chim. It also had mortals "mantling" the personas of literal gods to become them. Neil Gaiman's Sandman had concepts that predated all smaller Gods like Dream or Death who were, yet again, personifications. In fact, multiple people have taken on the mantle of Dream. Anime does this all the time with abstract concepts becoming personifications or things to dominate by mortals through some rigorous means.
I don't get your contention anon.
Yes I'm aware that personifications are a thing in fiction. But Personifications do not often get mindcontrolled by average roasties using magic to take them over then boss them around in extremely out-of-character ways that do not align with what they personify. If Golb is the personification of chaos it makes no sense for Betty to fuse with him and boss him around, you're warping and changing a concept if not the biggest concept of reality itself just because muh plot convenience. And if they do do any of that then they're a shit excuse for a personification.
What did Betty warp and change? GOLB wasn't directly attacking reality. She just became it and got away from reality.
Betty summoned it like you would summon any rando creature and then it attacked earth and made monsters to attack people too. Then she warped the supposed "concept of entropy" to be a woman and to run away and to protect simon. A shit excuse for any "concept" because adventure time is for moronic goyslop-guzzling idiots.
Yeah, never mind that GOLB was so powerful it took half the finale to just manifest in reality and that Betty can't actually boss it around too much, otherwise she'd stay with Simon.
You sound like a massive homosexual to discuss anything with who refuses to see nuance and is hung up about muh womyn. You're probably the kind of schizo who complains about Finn.
You shouldn't be able to summon it at all, and you shouldn't be able to boss it around at all.
It's a shit character. Read some adult media instead of dicksucking a shitty troony show with dogshit writing made for tumblr kids.
>You shouldn't be able to summon it at all, and you shouldn't be able to boss it around at all.
Because... Because you just shouldn't!
>It's a shit character. Read some adult media instead of dicksucking a shitty troony show with dogshit writing made for tumblr kids.
What would that "adult media" be? Lovecraft? Your favorite fanservice manga?
And? It wasn't bothered by it and didn't react at all. They couldn't damage it even with the hole.
Maybe, but it's been years now. GOLB has been an established part of the discourse surrounding AT for five years at this point.
>Shitting on Lovecraft to try and win your gay internet argument
That's just low. I've been watching this thread but have to call you out on that, that's some real bullshit and even you know it.
I'm not shitting on Lovecraft, but come on, he's babby's first exposure to malevolent primordial deities. If you wanna make a comparison to Lovecraft, just say it, don't dress it up in vague "media for grownups!" descriptors. And if you do want to compare GOLB to his beings, you should keep in mind Lovecraft's stories are fundamentally different in tone, bleaker and with no hope of those beings getting defeated in the first place. AT maintained some of that but obviously it's not going to go full grimdark, so they found way a being like this could be worked around in its setting without making it seem weak or stupid, which I think is pretty clever.
How exactly was GOLB defeated by singing? Describe what happened.
>the ultimate evil is just a fat toddler that doesn't even do anything before being defeated?
I guess for you the ultimate evil is someone who should do an epic gloating speech and a powerup and fight the protagonist in physical combat. Which can be fun, but it's obviously inherently cheesy and AT wasn't going for that here.
>How exactly was GOLB defeated by singing? Describe what happened
They sang at him until his minions were destroyed and a hole was created in his being, leading to him being defeated. Stop pretending to be moronic
You're being disingenuous.
GOLB still couldn't be hurt and wouldn't be defeated without Betty's wish. My memory is a bit foggy, but I'm pretty sure they even showed that new abominatons were beginning to manifest right after the previous ones died. You just really want to find reasons to be a seething b***h.
I'm not. The crown didn't reset until they sang a hole into Glob. They couldn't have done a thing without the stupid song.
>GOLB still couldn't be hurt
He was hurt. He was mutilated. They themselves said they were repelling him by doing so.
>He was hurt.
No he wasn't, you moron. He doesn't even react. Ever. The only times GOLB has ever displayed anything other than pure apathy are the moment when Betty makes her wish and when he turns the Lich into a cube as his "reward". That's it.
Because he doesn’t make expressions. He was still being repelled and still being mutilated and stilp being btfo like a b***h by just some humans singing lmaoooooooooo
Anon, I have the EXACT clip up right here. So I'm going to post it and make a simple demand of you:
Point out where exactly was it shown that GOLB was harmed here, complete with timestamp and screenshot of him visibly recoiling in agony. I'll wait.
When he got his body gutted and split open just by some regular humans singing a happy song, b***h
His expressionless ass got whooped by the care bear opening song
>When he got his body gutted and split open just by some regular humans singing a happy song, b***h
Not seeing that in the video. But thank you for conceding and proving that you are literally more braindead and media illiterate than I was expecting..
Thank you for denying what literally happened when they started singing because reality sends you into a tantrum, seething Adventure Time Manbaby…
God I fricking HATE AT's finale.
It would have been at least somewhat bearable if the song wasn't sub-mediocre.
Also, I love how you're already back-peddling.
>muh memory is bad
It is. You don't know what you're talking about
Fair enough but comparing Lovecraft to fanservice manga sure looked like you were shitting on him to me.
>without making it seem weak or stupid
Except they did, and now your tryhard "cthonic deity!!!" is a troony and betty's b***h
Because it's a concept and not some regular monster, as per OP's tryhard reach. But apparently not, it's just a regular monster and a shit excuse for a "concept"
>Because... Because you just shouldn't!
Because you can't impose your will on real universal constants. It's like jumping out of a window and trying to will gravity to be different.
>Ah but gravity isn't constant! The rate of acceleration is different in different places
Gravity itself operates the same way everywhere, it has a fixed relation to mass.
>Because you can't impose your will on real universal constants. It's like jumping out of a window and trying to will gravity to be different.
That logic doesn't apply if you become gravity itself and can change the way you interact with the rest of reality, at least as far as your mortal comprehension allows you.
Your face is a troony.
Yeah that's the point, "becoming gravity" isn't a thing you can do, because it's a concept beyond your means of interacting with it.
But Betty obviously had an unconventional tool that allowed her to interact with it. It's not like she just talked to it normally.
Doesn't matter the tool you use, if you permanently change the thing and make it act outside its nature then it's a shit excuse for a "constant"
Is this what it's all about, petty semantics? How else then do you call something that cannot be destroyed and exists in the universe permanently?
But that at best makes the song a contributing factor, not something he was actually defeated by.
GOLB sure didn't seem to be in pain or have any reaction to being "mutilated". And again, even their best efforts were barely strong enough to repel two monsters it created. Also you made me look up the transcript
>Marceline: I don't know if we can kill Golb with music, PB!
It wasn't even consciously sending them to attack as far as we know, it was just creating malevolent beings with its very presence.
>How else then do you call something that cannot be destroyed and exists in the universe permanently?
An immortal. If you can permanently change it and make it do non-constant things that is against what it supposedly represents, then it ain't a constant. Just a big monster in a shitty tumblr show for nursery schoolers.
So we're gonna use a different term, what does it fundamentally change? It's an overwhelming presence that cannot be defeated by any conventional means. You're still being a pedantic b***h.
That's not a conscious reaction. It didn't even acknowledge anything that was happening due to the song.
Was GOLB defeated before Betty made her wish? If it's as black-and-white as you make it out to be, you should be able to give a simple yes or no answer.
>Was GOLB defeated before Betty made her wish?
We have already established that the wish wasn't available until the song.
Answer the question. You claim GOLB was defeated by the song. So you should be able to answer, was GOLB already defeated before Betty made her wish?
Betty couldn't make her wish and defeat Golb without the song. You're not clever by being pedantic about the order of operations. It's like arguing that it wasn't a killed when they got shot, they were killed when they bled out from a gunshot. You're so fricking dumb that it's funny
Why aren't you answering the question? If GOLB was defeated by the song, then it was already defeated before Betty made her wish. Yes or no?
Yes, Golb was defeated when the song reset the crown
So then why did Betty make a wish?
She made a wish to follow through on the opportunity the song created. Stop pretending to be moronic
So did the song defeat GOLB or did it create an opportunity? You seem to be "backpedaling" now for some reason, maybe because a part of you knows your complaint is inherently stupid and disingenuous.
Could Betty have made a wish without the crown being reset? I answered your Yes/No, i can't imagine you'll answer mine genuinely
No, because the song has a purpose in the story and isn't pointless. How does this mean that GOLB was defeated by it?
Okay, so it's just a matter of your personal perception then.
None of those things defeated or even hurt GOLB, at best they just made it leave the world we see.
>No, because the song has a purpose in the story and isn't pointless. How does this mean that GOLB was defeated by it?
Because that was it's purpose in the story?
No? The song's purpose was to give Betty a way to defeat GOLB, and also give the other characters some agency. The finale of F&C deals with the direct repercussions of what actually defeated GOLB, not the song.
>the direct repercussions of what actually defeated GOLB
A crown made by a wizard defeated your “deity”
>The song's purpose was to give Betty a way to defeat GOLB
I've literally said that from the start. Are you now agreeing that the song allowed them to defeat glob? Or are you going to keep pretending to be moronic
>the song allowed them to defeat glob
You're backpedaling from your moronic disingenuous stance that "the song defeated GOLB".
Could you repeat this but with even more buzzwords?
>You're backpedaling from your moronic disingenuous stance that "the song defeated GOLB
It did. Without the song they would have all died. You just agreed that the song allowed them to stop him. Now you're literally just repeating my buzzwords back at me in the same post you're mocking someone else for repeating buzzwords. You're a fricking clown.
>guess we didn't need the crown or betty to make that wish then since singing killed Golb
>singing melted Golb completely
kekw
Keep backpedaling Black person.
Holy shit, you're just a moronic autist who's afraid of change.
buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords. Guess Betty didn't need the crown by your guy's logic. Singing can melt Golb's steel beams amirite?
It's extremely telling that once it's logically been explained you devolve into paraphrasing and putting words into my mouth. Some people just get too emotional (not me, I am too autistic to feel). I get that you're embarrassed. It's embarrassing.
>You just agreed that the song allowed them to stop him.
And yet that doesn't mean the song defeated GOLB. And you know that, which is why you changed your wording. You knew that from the start, so I don't know why you even bothered with this pointless arguing.
>Okay, so it's just a matter of your personal perception then.
No, theres a way of making these kinds of characters threatening and the guys behind AT failed. Because Golb and the Chaos Gods share so many traits, yet in the rare scenes we see the chaos gods they are a lot more terrifying. Golb could have been that if he wasnt easily outwitted by singing, or mind control. They should have defeated him by cutting off his bridge or portal or reverse summoning him, or summoning him to somewhere else
>outwitted by singing,
How is it "outwitted" by singing?
>or mind control
It can clearly only be controlled in limited ways, since Betty can't free herself from its influence.
A magical device that is millions of years old managed to fend off a deity, yes. Not even destroy or hurt it.
More buzzwords, please.
A magic crown made by a normal wizard mindraped it and now it is Betty’s dog amd b***h doing whatever she wants and playing big lovegames to tell Simon the gay how soeshul he is
Golb is a little b***h basic ass monster that it now a roastie’s pet dog
>chaos gods
>rare
Meanwhile Urfather launches another giant swarm of gigahomie, vomit inducing models to planet Importantus because minerals or psyker fields or ideal shroom growing conditions or GW just needed to sell tabletop models real fast so they made up a canonical lore excuse to sell the latest Mortarion model for the low, low price of 400USD.
common out of all the things to compare Golb to in terms of quality you picked the color-coded gods meant to sell funkopops to 40year olds.
>mindraped by a single roastie human wizard
Like I said, shit “deity”
And singing killed his monsters and slashed his belly and almost soloed him just off singing
And glob grob snob bob beat his ass and he ran off
The song didn't reset the crown , moron. Golb sent everything inside his stomach to it's defaults including returning the crown to the state it was in before gunther wore it. betty literally explains this in the show. You keep commenting on an episode you clearly didn't watch. The song created a small hole in his stomach that allowed finn and simon to escape through, that's it. It even started shrinking after a few seconds. The song did jack shit to golb, it was the crown.
The crown lit up the moment the hole opened. That's why she didn't use it before then
>It's an overwhelming presence that cannot be defeated by any conventional means
Except by singing at it, or using magic to mindcontrol it, or asking a martian to beat him up
Shit “deity” bro lmao
>or have any reaction to being "mutilated"
Aside from having its whole belly slashed open
>But that at best makes the song a contributing factor, not something he was actually defeated by.
Here is another instance of back-peddling. Sadly I don't have time to mock you all day until you completely change your tune (see what I did there) and admit that you didn't remember the episode properly.
If you change the way you interact with it then you're not a constant anymore, you're just a thing with magic powers. It's kinda in the name: constant. It isn't supposed to change.
>average roasties
She inherited Magic Man magic and used Maja the Sky Witch's like a mana battery to open the portal to Golb. Two very powerful wizards. The former terrorized Mars and was the brother to Grob Gob Glob Grod while the latter summoned Darren the Ancient Sleeper, an entity that purportedly could kill someone and all multidimensional versions of that person. Betty's well-past the average roastie by that point. Did you watch the episodes leading to the finale of AT?
>the biggest concept of reality
In Simon's flashback during the original AT finale, he sees Golb mentioned nearly everywhere in esoteric texts. It's unlikely that other magic-users or occultists didn't seek out Golb from the same texts.
There was likely information and study regarding Golb as the Lich took on the moniker as the Last Scholar of Golb. We know now that he thought his life purpose, as ordained by Golb, as to bring death and destruction to all life. This heavily implies there were other scholars liken to the Lich who studied or past down theological archives interpreting Golb's greater will. It's unlikely they truly knew what the primeval entity desired, but the research was there in the background.
Furthermore, while it's unknown what the power ranking of the Ice Crown is compared to, say, Prismo's innate capabilities, we know that it's capable of immense magic. Evergreen had fashioned it to stop the Lich's catalyst comet from destroying all life, which seems to be a predestined event in all universes that we know of. It's wish magic was powerful enough to manipulate constants within the universe, so why wouldn't it be able to merge a powerful wizard with a primordial deity?
>Evergreen had fashioned it to stop the Lich's catalyst comet from destroying all life, which seems to be a predestined event in all universes that we know of
Bullshit, none of the comets were "predestined" anything. Finn talks to one face to face and tells it to frick off and it does.
>none of the comets were "predestined"
What universes so far did not have the Lich in them?
Farmworld, the world where Finn literally wished the Lich never existed and Prismo granted it just like that. "Predestined" my ass you tryhard wannabe.
Anon, when did you think the first catalyst comet hit? Hint, there aren't any dinosaurs anymore you literal mongoloid.
Anon, what do you think the literal plot of the episode said? No Lich.
Nowhere anywhere in the series did they say the comets are predestined either. None of that was said fricking anywhere. You've now resorted to literally making shit up because you're that desperate for your tumblr troony baby show to seem deep.
Still haven't answered my question. Where are the dinosaurs on Farmworld? Or did you not watch the Evergreen episode where the first catalyst comet was meant to herald the Lich onto Earth. It simultaneously wiped out most life back then. The Lich "essence" was still released into Farmworld regardless of OG Finn's impractical wish.
So I ask again, where are the fricking dinosaurs you literal fricking mong?
Did you not watch the Evergreen episode when the Elements decided to stop the comet, and only failed because Gunter fricked it up? No fricking mention at all about it being "predetermined"?
Where the frick are you even getting that from? Noone and nowhere in the show is anything like that said.
Something just happening does not make it "predetermined", that is the dumbest fricking manbaby logic I have ever heard.
You alone are proof that all adventuretimegays are the biggest manbabies in any fandom to ever exist. Frick off before you embarrass humanity more.
>no universe has dinosaurs
>every universe has baseline humans who then diverge into further evolutions or remain genetically pure
>in all universes the theory of evolution has taken place
>meaning the same extinction level event has always occurred to wipe out sentient or non-sentient life to make room for mammals
>until expressly stated otherwise, all catalyst comets must've occurred
Simple question anon. Were. There. Dinos. In. Farmworld. Yes or no.
have you seen every universe that exists in the infinite Adventure Time multiverse, anon?
No?
Was it ever stated for you that every universe in Adventure Time had constant comet strikes?
No?
Were the other comets observably not predetermined and just decided to go away?
Yes?
Then I win and there's nothing actually suggesting any of that was "predetermined".
My prize is you have to go outside and touch grass for the first time in 40 years.
No, you don't get to weasel out of this. OP (potentially (you) ) started this discussion asking for provable phenomena provided by the show itself.
>you're warping and changing a concept if not the biggest concept of reality itself just because muh plot convenience
I have brought multiple proofs indicating how this was possible. It is why I included the "until otherwise" statement.
Even if there was proof of a dino-universe, which again, I will reiterate, the showrunners have not provided for us, the majority of all alt-universes are either currently or were human dominated. All AUs followed extremely similar paths parallel to the OG universe with very little changes pre-mushroom war. Major changes to the timeline occurred AFTER the mushroom war (IK stopping the bomb, Simon dying, etc.) This means that every one of those AUs had to have been hit by the same precursor comet that brought the Lich into their world.
Why would the crown exist if there wasn't in those worlds? The crown's sole intended purpose, as stated by Evergreen, was to harness the bountiful amounts of magic resonating within their environment. Magic was plentiful during this timeline as expressed by the Elementals and Evergreen himself. Why the FRICK would it exist if there was no catalyst comet to spur it's creation? Especially if, again, all universes share extremely similar if not 1-to-1 backgrounds prior to the mushroom war?
Thus, in every reality the crown is capable enough to halt predestined events. Which explains how a powered up Betty could utilize the crown's wish magic to merge with Golb.
>touch grass for the first time in 40 years.
Say you didn't watch the episodes in question without telling me you didn't.
>asking for provable phenomena
Please provide a single piece of evidence then, that the comets are predetermined.
No, not possible. Anything is possible to be predetermined. Post a single line anywhere int eh show saying that they are predetermined, I'm still waiting you moronic manbaby.
Just did. Now prove to me where the dinos are in Farmworld or concede. Burden of proof is on you homosexual.
>Just did
Where? No, being shown 5 or 6 timelines where dinosaurs are dead (because it's a branch-off of Adventure Time events) does not make it predetermined.
And the proof that the comets are not predetermined is when Finn literally told one to go away and it did.
>5 or 6 timelines where dinosaurs are dead
>of the only AUs shown
>every universe has a crown
>crowns were originally used to prevent comet
Alright, you have proof to disprove me, well cite what ep and what evidence. Where's the Evergreen that did this as a shitpost? Or where's the Evergreen who made the crown to resolve some other issue? Show it to me. Why is it all crowns work so similarly to one another that Simon was able to easily identify them with a variant of one through the remote?
You've yet to provide anything but "nu uh" as a response.
>Why would the crown exist if there wasn't in those worlds?
Because all the world that are shown in the show are offshoots of the Adventure Time timeline. Of course they're not gonna show timelines that aren't to do with the Adventure Time cast, nobody would wanna watch that. Doesn't mean they don't exist.
Holy shit Adventure Time gays are literally so dumb they lack object permanence.
>Of course they're not gonna show timelines that aren't to do with the Adventure Time cast, nobody would wanna watch that.
translates to:
>"wow anon x thing doesn't work because I said so"
>"what do you mean the showrunners haven't said that specifically?
>"what do you mean multiple AUs sharing constants like Finns, Marcelines, Bubblegums, etc."
>"what do you mean the Lich is already stated to be in multiple universes?"
>"what is pattern recognition?"
>"Prove it, anon"
I'm assuming you dropped out or failed your GED. No one's this dense.
Have you ever Back to The Future, Adventuretimeanon?
Have you ever wondered why every timeline has humans in it and no dinosaurs? Because the specific timelines that are dealt with are only altering human events. Just like the only timelines dealt with in F&C are if things went differently for the modern adventure time cast.
Marty could've gone back and prevented the dinosaurs being wiped out. The fact we didn't see it happening and he didn't bother to does not make the extinction of the dinosaurs a universal constant, it's just not a timeline they bothered to show.
I'm assuming at this point you're trolling because even you guys aren't naturally this stupid so this is my last intentional reply.
>timeline has humans in it and no dinosaurs?
>does not make the extinction of the dinosaurs a universal constant
Is this the movie or the non-canonical show? Proving a negative with a negative doesn't help your argument. Especially when your analogy fails from the getgo. Back to the Future had no interest in showing us the origins of an artifact capable of stopping an extinction level event back in the Mesozoic Era. Adventure Time did. The crown is a centerpiece of the entire show and throughout multiple universes. The crown's original purpose, eventual malignancy, and utility has remained consistent throughout every universe.
This is like a guy covered in blood not two minutes away from a murder scene telling you "well you don't know what happened, you weren't there were you officer? That's right, it could've been bears!"
Again, the burden of proof is on you. Cite where Evergreen made the crown as a shitpost on a finnish-korean hyperwar forum.
But we've seen realities unconnected to the Adventure Time one.
They showed us Flapjack Reality and that wasn't connected to Adventure Time (within the show) like what is being claimed.
Prismo said he didn't create it and none of the characters are extensions of Adventure Time characters.
It could be argued that both Cake and Bubby share their voice actor, but Fionna and Cake's reality wasn't a part of the multiverse so that doesn't count in the way that is being implied.
Is it seriously being suggested that all of Adventure Time is seriously a continuation off some Flapjack reality rather than a seemingly infinite multiverse? In an infinite sea of possibilities, why are multiple, similar iterations of reality warping tools seen as a far flung idea? It's infinity. Anything is possible.
...or the Flapjack cameo was a joke. Because it's Flapjack. Jesus Christ.
Anon, that's my point. You all are taking infinite possibilities of the multiverse too seriously.
It can be anything. Something serious. A Joke. It's infinite.
Does the crown exist in the Flapjack universe? Does Simon & frens ever go to the Flapjack universe or interact with it in any conceivable way? Or did they go to the main AUs throughout the miniseries to extract a crown with near-exact properties as the baseline crown?
>Does the crown exist in the Flapjack universe?
The universe was already there so, maybe? It's not a given for sure.
>Does Simon & frens ever go to the Flapjack universe or interact with it in any conceivable way?
No.
Also, I'm guessing we can agree Betty was not an "average roastie" seeing as how you had no response to that right? Because she wasn't by that point.
No response to what? I don't have to respond to all the moron posts you make. No earthian wizard should be able to boss around a fully fleshed embodiment of a concept, and especially not fuse to it and alter it without fricking the universe over.
additionally, creating rituals to bind, summon, or direct spiritual energy is nothing new for Hermeticism. Of which the showrunners and writers pulled greatly from over the past decade.
spiritual energy
not the living embodiment of the entire concept in and of itself
see the difference? Golb is a dogshit excuse for a "deity"
I thought that the episode was trying to convey that Betty sure could stop Glob, she just had to think of the proper way to say it. She tried banishing it and it didn't work, as the room got smaller, what I imagined happened is that a desperate Betty simply said "I wish to be glob" and because she didn't have any actual *ambition* to become the Chaos God, it actually worked. Which I really like because I feel like that's what a Chaotic Entity would do, hand all of its identity and power to a being with no real ambition to hold it.
That could've been the intention behind her statement as wish magic has always been presented as finnicky and unwieldy. Mainly to drive home the point that the things you say and the intent behind what you say can be separate from one another in linguistics. That's a good interpretation.
Describing him like that almost makes me thinking they took some cues from Giygas with GOLB. Even him being a big red baby is kind of Giygas-like.
Again: just like Giygas.
Damn, way to ripoff Darkseid.
>implying GOLB didn't want Finn and Simon to escape
People still misunderstand GOLB, he's not evil. He's chaos. Lich is a moron who doesn't understand that killing everyone decreases the amount of chaos in the world.
no it fricking doesn't, actual irl moron. Life is anti-entropic, killing people decreases chaos.
And no, "cancer cells" are not entropic or chaotic, not are mutations. They are the assembling and gathering of particles and decrease net entropy within a system.
*killing people increases
that's literally what I said. please re-read
read
Killing everyone does not decrease chaos, it increases it. Life decreases chaos, life is anti-entropic by nature.
I disagree, survival of the fittest is very chaotic in nature. From the Micro to the Macro level, without life earth would be a simple rock and its trajectory for the next billions of years could be predicted through math. No one can predict where life goes.
that's not what chaos means and not what it represents, you're misunderstanding an entire subject down to its very word. Chaos is the breakdown of things to a disordered state, hence the reference that Golb breaks things down to their base forms. Life is anti-chaotic, gathering mass and gathering particles to create structured complexes. It's nothing about predicting anything, the particles gathered in your body are far more mathematically predictable and ordered than anything outside of it.
Most chaos is completely non-functional. Chaos does not equal complexity. Sure, Earth may just be a big rock without life, but atoms are constantly randomly decaying and bumping into each other.
Total entropy means nothing happening though. I wouldn't call that chaotic.
"Total entropy" as physics defines it means the complete dissolution of EVERYTHING. Not just matter, but even the laws of physics completely cease to be against maximal entropy. We literally cannot comprehend what peak entropy would entail because the very descriptors we'd use to judge such a thing have totally broken down.
From a physics standpoint? Yes. You are guaranteed certain reactions and outcomes with life regardless of most other factors.
>life, the most chaotic and complex process on earth, is anti-entropic
Please stop talking
No, he's right in a physics sense. Life is very orderly.
physics and biology are not orderly. Your body has millions of processes going on at the same time.
Not him but while I am of the opinion that life if very chaotic, the actual functioning of your body needs to be orderly in order to function.
Exactly, it's a highly complex system. Disorder is the opposite of that.
The minutiae may come across as chaotic, but if your body was not performing its general functions in an ordered manner, you would not be able to live. All life requires inherent order in order to sustain itself
Orderly processes. Each "process" in every single one of your cells exists to decrease total entropy within each of its cells.
Adventure Time gays proving to be pretentious manchildren who know nothing of the outside world, example no. 45786948
The "millions of processes" you're vaguely referring to without actually understanding how any of them work, are removing degradation products and thermodynamic waste (positive entropy) to create negative entropy.
So in a sense you're right. The body has millions of processes going on at the same time specifically to decrease entropy within itself so that it can function and accumulate the particles it needs without scattering into so many cosmic dusts.
There's moron alert then whatever the frick you posted
A world devoid of all life is a calm nothing.
How does reducing everything to nothing increase chaos? Chaos needs life, thought, to be chaotic you tard
People are treating chaos and entropy as the same, but I think GOLB represents chaos in a different sense. We literally see GOLB infect/create monsters in the finale. That doesn't strike me as pro-entropy. Neither does formalising the creation of a new dimension. GOLB is a shit-stirrer.
't interact with reality in conventional ways at all
Except when he did in the only ep of adventure time he appeared
Also a random roastie made "the universal constant" its b***h that does whatever it says looking after an old homo
Nice "concept" you got there
Betty can't even directly influence GOLB in any way that matters.
She literally used his powers in all of F&C to babysit Simon and send him on a magic adventure designed to teach him lifelessons
Golb is a weak laughable cuck and Betty’s b***h and also got beat up by a martian with dnd dice for a head
Did you even watch the show, schizo?
Betty most likely ceased to exist judging by that last moment of a blue humanoid figure disappearing.
Betty sends Simin to the future and gives him visions and makes frickin videogames for him by smackin Golb’s cuck ahh with her belt which makes him do whatever she wants cause he a weak lil beeatch.
makes it harder to believe some of Cinemaphile actually watched the show. Betty clearly doesn't get to live on as an all-powerful God while "shaming" Simon.
I'm fairly certain 90% of this board neither watched the original show nor F&C. It's clear to literally all involved that Betty basically had zero control over GOLB and even fusing with it was a temporary thing since it seems mere extensive contact with it eventually deleted her fricking soul.
>It's clear to literally all involved that Betty basically had zero control over GOLB
Except when she sent Simon to the future and made a videogame for him and etecetera
But you don’t like to accept those things because that’s reality and you’re a seething AdventureTime manbaby who doesn’t wanna accept “Golb” is a shit boring unimpressive character so….
It's unfortunate because some of the ways she used experiences and memories to communicate with Simon reminded me of Solaris where it was the planet communicating with the scientists that took up residence there. Or Satoshi Kon's Magnetic Rose. Never expected F&C to filter so many homosexuals but such is life.
>It's clear to literally all involved that Betty basically had zero control over GOLB and even fusing with it was a temporary thing since it seems mere extensive contact with it eventually deleted her fricking soul.
She have some control as the crown granted her the power to keep Simon Safe; but that control is limited as Muck Time's a thing and Golb is a physical form of chaos and destruction. it's only when she's certain that Simon will live a fulfilling life that she'll gave up her existence and let Golb returns to a Primorial Manchild that it always meant to be.
Golb is a creation and destruction engine, a sort of cosmic wheel turner. It attempted to take Finn when he died in pillow world, so Golb presumably has some part to play in the reincarnation of mortals. When being digested by Golb, an object slowly comes closer to its truest essence. It is strange, though, that a mortal wizard managed to create a magical item powerful enough to interfere with a cosmic being. Perhaps Golb merely allowed Betty’s final wish to go through, or maybe cosmic entities are far less influential than expected.
>It is strange, though, that a mortal wizard managed to create a magical item powerful enough to interfere with a cosmic being.
Magic Man spent his life studying GOLB and went insane trying to understand him. He's also the brother of Grob Gob Glob Grod, who's a deity. I don't think that's a stretch he could find a way around GOLB or give Betty the knowledge needed.
Grob Gob Glob Grod beat Golb before when he attacked Mars.
>is clearly conceived as God of AT's world
>his name invoked by everyone
>obvious design and naming similarities to GOLB
>is the first to give any info on GOLB
>dies to a comet and gets reborn into (supposedly) a weaker form
>just fricks off and is never a factor in either of the GOLB appearances afterward
What did they mean by this?
Same thing they meant by all AT shit.
Absolutely nothing because they gave zero thought into any of it.
They retconned him into being just an extremely powerful Martian, brother of Magic Man. He's basically just the Billy/Finn of Mars. Still an interesting character but idk how he defeated, or even warded off Golb.
he had a great singing voice.
>Golb presumably has some part to play in the reincarnation of mortals
No he doesn't, see Together Again.
Golb is moron downsyndromeshit just like everything from gayventure time.
higher beings and universal constants should not be written like typical monsters, they shouldn't even be characters at all they're just visual representations of an existing force they don't change or affect anything that doesn't already happen every day because they are that thing. At the minimum being a "concept" requires you at least do like Chainsaw Man and make fricking with them frick with the concept they're supposed to represent. If you kill the concept of guns I expect all guns to disappear and noone even knows what they are.
GOLB was a failure and a complete letdown, the ultimate evil is just a fat toddler that doesn't even do anything before being defeated?
combined with zero dialogue or personality and it's just a joke
>chthonic eldritch deity.
>defeated by singing
Invictus is way better
Are we done with the Lich forever? He could come back theoretically but I feel satisfied with him at this point. We've seen what would happen if he succeeded so there's really nothing left in store for him.
The lich is in all realities, or at least his hand is and that seems to be enough. Honestly I do wonder why he hasn't crafted a new body for himself yet since in every incarnation so far we have seen his hand remain a hand.
I got the impression that as a hand all he's really able to do is catch someone off guard or convince someone else to do his bidding for him, like with Sweet Pea and New Death
All of his knowledge and sentience appears to be in the hand, at the very least he should have the knowledge to craft himself a new form. Perhaps with a massive ritual in an area with many skeletons, using the crushed up bone powder to craft his new form or some other ritual like bullshit. Point is, I don't see when he is limited to being a hand now when he is still brimming with power and knowledge.
Why did Football vanish in the Lich'd universe? Did it just fade into the background because of BMO impersonating everyone else?
Maybe football is supposed to be representative of whatever component of BMO is considered “alive”
>Why did Football vanish in the Lich'd universe
Because they were a real boy. Or was it girl? I can't remember what was said in that episode.
that's how he calls his reflection, that means there's no water or clean reflective surfaces left in that dead world
Wasn't football a literally entity in one episode and tried to swap places with BMO?
yeah, although said entity still relied on reflections to communicate with bmo
>chthonic
Cthonic means related to the underworld. Hades or Erinyes are cthonic. The word you're probably looking for would be cosmic or Lovecraftian.
...A pathetic jobber who could never replace the Lich King as AT's most effective villain.
Lich died like 5 times, GOLB still exists.
>Post season 2 Adventure Time
Ew
Most of the best AT episodes came after Season 2
Most of the bad ones did too, but thats besides the point
pre season 5 is the jerry dimension
Sad endings make me sad
I like to look at it as optimistic.
Simon didn't end up with Betty, but he's got a new lease on life and realizes he has a whole world of opportunity ahead of him. He knows Betty is safe now, so no longer has to feel guilty about her being GOLBETTY, and has permission to move on now that he's grown as a person and not trying to retread old ground.
Fionna now understands her place in the universe and reality compromised to allow her a normal (and safe) life that also has SOME magic in it (so it's not all mundane and boring) and she can keep in contact with Simon (and in theory, the rest of the multiverse if she legitimately wanted to explore.)
They can't return to the past, but there future has no downsides but the unknown (which they were already facing!)
It's not a sad ending, but a humbling beginning to new Adventures, anon!
That's fair. Though I think the existential horror of Betty and the person she was just being gone is still just an inherently sad concept.
It's good that Simon is more aware of himself, and can forgive the past enough to try to make the most of the future moving forward, but it's still hard seeing what could have been between them and knowing it's forever out of reach. It'd be one thing if Betty had simply died, but she didn't even get to die as herself.
Maybe she's content as she is. But it's sad that Simon has a chance to learn from their mistakes and move forward, but she never will.
Because Betty went too far, something magic man was close to doing until he was "saved" by her
tbtbh it seems like what golbetty did was still selfish because whatever development she went through after the finale happened offscreen. Betty was inherently selfish when she came to Ooo and she continued to be selfish when she focused all her efforts on bringing back Simon at the cost of IK and everyone else's well being. Her sacrificing herself to Golb was an irreparable mistake that never should've happened, but now that she's in that state she has to accept that being with Simon is impossible and the best thing for both of them is to move on.
I think part of the problem the story CONSTANTLY hammering in your face that Simon also made some poor choices back then. We didn't need much to know that Betty made and continues to make shitty decisions, we never had a long scene of her talking about all the things she did wrong and what she should've done instead. We just got the point, knew where she fricked up and moved on. When you actually focus on the bigger picture, Simon is the one who's better off because he still has a chance to turn his life around. When you're watching F&C ep10 it's like you're being lectured on what Simon did wrong, which makes it FEEL like the narrative is putting an unnecessary amount of blame on him. They should've been more subtle about it and let viewers come to that conclusion on their own, which AT managed to do well with Betty.
>status-quo is mostly maintained
>characters learn a hard lesson about life not being fair while being allowed a small silver lining
>the "I want more" character learned to love her boring normie life
Surprised that this ending has ruffled some feathers here, Cinemaphile usually loves shit like this.
Lmfao even fricking Warhammer fantasy/40k does a far better job with cthonic elder deities. The chaos gods are golb if golb was good
See above.
WH obviously has a drastically different tone that is stupid to even compare.
The tone is irrelevant, Im talking about the specific characters called the Chaos Gods. They
>dont speak except in three appearances
>dont interact with reality in conventional ways
>warp it by mere presence
>immovable universal constant not destructible by any normal means
>only cheats mortals managed to find doesnt destroy them, only slows them down
>the times they comunnicate is by visions
>exist and function on another plane altogether
Its everything you said, except they manage to be vastly more threatening
Chaos Gods were always represented by Chaos Space Marines (hulking hormonal children with daddy issues) or in the case of Wh Fantasy by the jobbiest jobbers. Archaon the Everjobber for Chaos Undivided, Sigvald the Coomer, Throgg the Heel Troll. And they were all mogged by completely new donutsteel OCs authors made in the End Times such as the Glotkin Bros or their characters were assassinated so thoroughly nothing remained of them. No one took the End Times seriously and that was the time Chaos won and destroyed the world. Don't get me started about the jobbers in 40k. Yeah, sure Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh (favored of troons) like to act all mysterious and unfathomable, but they and their servants are written primarily as obstacles for /literallyme/ characters: Primarchs and Space Mareens. Don't even dare compare Golb to that shitfest fandom. At least Golb has extremely unique ways to interact and has very little screen time giving the deity more weight.
Mate, Im not talking about the Chaos Warriors or Traitor Mariens or demons, Im talking about the Chaos Gods as characters on their own. And as characters they only have a handful of appearances that can be counted on your fingers. And in those appearances the writers at least get the job of making them creepy and threatening right. Same thing with the Emrah, he gets mentioned all the time but outside of HH we rarely ever actually meet him, you get me?
>And in those appearances the writers at least get the job of making them creepy and threatening right.
Speaking as someone with /tg/ as one of my main boards, you're either stupidly underage or you're the most moronic 40kid I e encountered in years. The Chaos Gods have never had any gravitas or weight to them in any media.
>Same thing with the Emrah, he gets mentioned all the time but outside of HH we rarely ever actually meet him, you get me?
Anon...HH literally exists as canon material to show us how the Emperor thinks and what he was like. That is the whole point of it.
The emperor rarely ever speaks to or interacts with other characters outside of HH. This gives his rare appearances more gravitas and more alien
>dont speak except in three appearances
Every single daemon proves you wrong, since they are literally fragments of their Gods and speak for them.
>dont interact with reality in conventional ways
Except they literally do? Daemons and Chaos cultists act so generically that the biggest complaint on /tg/ is that they're dogshit levels of generic evil.
>warp it by mere presence
So do lots of things in fiction.
>immovable universal constant not destructible by any normal means
Chaos Gods can literally die if their Corpus is destroyed, which kills them permanently. The Emperor himself dealt a permanent wound to Nurgle in Godblight.
>only cheats mortals managed to find doesnt destroy them, only slows them down
See above.
>the times they comunnicate is by visions
See the first point.
>exist and function on another plane altogether
Said plane which is a part of the Materium and can be interacted with by mortals.
>Every single daemon proves you wrong
fragments or not, theyre different characters, this is like saying the angels/saints of the emperor are the same character as him
>Daemons and Chaos cultists
Im not talking about them
>So do lots of things in fiction.
yeah thats why I brought them up, this is a thread for cthonic deities
>Chaos Gods can literally die if their Corpus is destroyed
>nu-lore
I havent read any of AoS or Cicatrix Maledictum stuff
>See the first point.
I am specifically talking about the chaos gods themselves not mouthpieces or intermediaries
>Said plane which is a part of the Materium and can be interacted with by mortals
And? Its a different plane, so what if they can interact with it, its a different plane
stop seething homie, im sorry GW scammed a years rent out of you
Never spent a single penny on trash anon. Even as a Gotrek and Felix fan and an admirer of Chaos Warriors aesthetically speaking, you sort of revealed your hand there. You didn't compare Golb to anything written by Lovecraft or Steven King. Not some analog horror or even a good anime. You compared it to the gods in a fictional universe made to sell toys. lol, lmao even.
Why would I compare Golb to Lovecraft when thats already been done by 10 other anons? Did you even read the thread?
>fragments or not, theyre different characters, this is like saying the angels/saints of the emperor are the same character as him
The saints of the Emperor aren't literally fragments of him who the writers have repeatedly stated represent his will, personality, and interests.
>Im not talking about them
You are by definition, since Chaos Gods ARE their Daemons.
>yeah thats why I brought them up, this is a thread for cthonic deities
By that description alone, then the Chaos Gods and GOLB are both disqualified. "Cthonic" as a descriptor describes neither of them.
>I havent read any of AoS or Cicatrix Maledictum stuff
>secondary is moronic
Not surprised.
>I am specifically talking about the chaos gods themselves not mouthpieces or intermediaries
And those mouthpieces and intermediaries are literally the God speaking. Whenever you see a Great Unclean One or Changer of Ways, that's literally a facet of Nurgle and Tzeentch respectively, a direct reflection of them into reality.
>And? Its a different plane, so what if they can interact with it, its a different plane
It's not at all a different plane. The Immaterium is explicitly tied to the Materium and relies on it to sustain its current state.
ESL secondary please go.
UOL tertiary please go away and never come back.
have a nice day ESL secondary.
>The Emperor himself dealt a permanent wound to Nurgle in Godblight.
You kinda forget that The Emperor pretty much is a chaos god of it's own now and even beforehand was capable of erasing someones very concept from existence.
>show that went to shit years ago releases a spin-off with even worse writing
>this mindbreaks someone into thinking they actually did a good job with the villain who is defeated the moment they appear
Golb is up there for one of the worst antagonists in fiction. You legitimately need to read more/watch more stories if you don't understand why.
I'm just going to wait for a three hour video essay about golb on youtube to show up.
GOLB is not defeated the moment it appears. In fact, it's not really defeated at all, as it still exists by the time of F&C finale and nobody can do anything about it. It just doesn't affect the worlds we see because of Betty's will.
>You legitimately need to read more/watch more stories if you don't understand why.
Maybe you need to broaden your horizons if a slightly untraditional ambitious cartoon antagonist is "the worst villain ever" to you.
Steven universe once again proving that singing fixes everything.
>Makes a crown with the power to affect cosmic deities like GOLB with some gemerals, ice magic, and sick C++ skills in you are path
Is he the smartest wizard in all of Adventure Time? Besides all the moronic shit he did, of course
>Is he the smartest wizard in all of Adventure Time?
Probably not since all of adventure time covers many millions of years, but he is probably up there as one of the smartest and most ambitious.
hes an extremly good example of high intelligence and dogshit wisdom
Really should of mutated some eggs to make guards for his fortress.
Infinite cosmos, so unlikely the smartest, but one of the most capable in ability.
Makes it all the more cosmically ironic he had the capability to bend reality to his will but succumb to his personal lifestyle choices catching up with him. He reaped what he sowed and had to pay for it with his life.
I think all of this depends on your definition of "defeat"
Wait, so the Betty from the OG timeline is the only Betty in all the multiverse that fused with Golb? Is every other Betty free? If that’s the case Simon should just go to a universe where Betty never fused with Golb.
Wouldn't that be cucking the original betty with another betty.
The original Betty wouldn’t care anymore.
What if golb isn't actually real but just an illusion created by everything thinking golb is real.
>jobs to music
Where is the episode? Yes I searched the archive, no links
Poor Betty, is she just going to be all alone as this horrible monster forever?
She's going Yui Ikari's path now
I think she passed on anon. there was a brief moment of blue light that took the silhouette of a humanoid before returning to a round sphere. the implication is golb has returned to full form and the idea of betty is no more.
either she went back to sleep (like she was before Lich's rude awakening), or that she's erased like Margles before her; there's no passing on once you're in the Golb.
Darkseid is the Omega to Trigon's Alpha.
None of you morons are asking the real question. The real questing being what would happen if Golbetty put on the Crown?
Probably nothing. They stated in the past that creatures like Jake and Cake are immune to the effects of the crown due to already being magic but this was before we knew the origin of the crown (and that Jake was an alien, although I guess alien magic is a thing).
So, assuming it's in Wintergreen mode, probably nothing except maybe Ice Elemental powers (which GOLB may be able to already do?)
If it's in Wish Mode, it's anyone's guess. GOLB already has reality warping powers, so probably doesn't need the crown. But GOLB seemingly has to function within the laws of the reality it inhabits, so it's not immune to a tool that can re-write reality if GOLB is part of that script. But, it's hard to actually determine without actual established GOLB Lore.
Here's my three step plan to fix Golb. Oh and Betty I guess
1. Grab a Ditto type entity from some universe
2. Make it turn into Golbetty and eat them
3. Have music played so that Golb and Betty can be taken out of the Ditto's stomach before they're disintegrated
Alternatively use the Ditto to kill Golb.
Golb? Betty’s weak helpless b***h who does whatever his roastie master commands.
Golb? Got his ahh beat by a Martian whose weaker than Wonder Woman and then ran off crying
Golb? Almost died to just singing
Golb? A homosexual joke character, from a gay show consoomed by gays.
Where are the episodes?
>there are people ITT
>defending golb
>golb, from one of the most nothing finales that only got people weeping because it signified the end of OG AT
Did people forgot Betty drag GOLB to get what she wanted?
GOLB is just an entity that destroy worlds not some ebbin villain
Noone’s forgot just Adventure Time cucks wanna pretend none of that happened because they can’t cope with how shit their entire series and writing and “lore” is.
>chthonic eldritch deity
cringe reddit
so anons this is what i didn't get
is Betty part of Golb? i mean is she now a goddess of chaos or something? or when Golb absorbed her she just died and he took her ""powers and memories""?
Betty was a part of GOLB up until the very end of F&C, where we see what was likely her being erased completely. It seems like bring fused with him was a temporary situation until he completely overwrote her.
They're fused but I doubt there's anything left of Betty beyond a vague mishmash within Golb. Like Golbetty was willing to tip the scales in Simon's favor in a vague "I like Simon" sort of thing but I don't consider there's a Betty trapped deep down inside Golb giving one final goodbye to Simon.
So we're all in agreement that AT is dog? Good, let's talk about actual kino instead.
Nice theories and speculations anons but I have a question
Can Simon frick golbetty tho?
He can become Betty.
What the frick
you had to be there anon.
source?
I erased my browsing history to hide my shame anon. So I don't remember.
Never mind, I just noticed the name at the bottom of the first image, thanks anyway.
Wait how did you find it? His twitter link is broken.
>”Oh nards what would Jake say in this situation?”
>Finn imagines Jake budging his elbow at Finn.
>”Wow over a decade later and you’re still pounding the ice king.”
LMAO, I was there for that when the comic was originally posted on a F&C general. Good bants. Shame it's over now. I hope schizognostic anon got what he wanted.
why couldn't golb kill scarab, bros
I think all Golb does is reduce things to their primal elements or some mumbo jumbo like that instead of just straight killing people. Like when he was digesting Simon, Betty, Finn and the crown.
Either that or Scarab being immortal makes him immune or some shit.
But what about the lich, he wasn't reduced. He was transformed.
The Lich was reduced. He was always brought into every universe via comet or some other extinction level event. The comet brought the essence of the Lich to primordial Ooo and then the Mushroom War created the atom bomb from these elements. The explosion brought the Lich to life and its essence infected FW Jake. The original Farmworld episodes showed that the Lich was always destined to reemerge from his primordial goop into his full-form. He won't remain a tetris block forever.
I like to think of the catalyst comet and the mushroom war like how a caterpillar eventually becomes a butterfly. The Lich needs specific triggers to determine it's evolution from primordial tetris goop.
>Finn
except he didn't returned his right arm
Finn not having an arm is his truest form though
I think it depends how old he is, we don't see young finns with a lost arm
>reduce to primal elements
What about Margles and other not-mentioned, they just dissaapeared.
I just hate how mess of a show Adventure Time is.
>this thread
Say what you want about AT, but it's the only somewhat known Western cartoon that can provoke discussions of high-concept spiritual and physical subject matter.
it's the only Western cartoon whose fans are so stupid yet pretentious they think they understand how entropy works because "le omg life is so heckin unpredictable and randumb!" *holds up spork*
Aren't you just looking for an excuse to shit on something you dislike by bringing up an anon's mistake?
Yes, I am.
You made this post in the other thread, schizo. have a nice day.
He is. He doesn't even realize he's technically.ly agreeing with us - entropy is inherently chaotic. It's the MOST chaotic thing of all even.
life isn't entropic, life decreases entropy within its own systems. Killing life increases entropy.
Yes, that's the point being made. That what the Lich did was inherently entropic (aka chaotic), ergo he was still serving GOLB who is the embodiment of chaos and disorder. Nothing about the Lich bringing death to an entire universe can be misconstrued as an orderly phenomenon.
I think there's a distinction between chaos and complete entropy. Complete disorder means nothing can interact, which doesn't seem very "chaotic."
Given how GOLB's domain just seems to be it remaining in a void of pure nothing, I genuinely believe its "goal" is simply to be alone for all eternity when existence is erased. Which would fit with it being total entropy.
What the Lich and other Scholars do would just be a microcosm of that.
Nah. Things can spontaneous arise in complete disorder, just so rarely it might as well be impossible. Given an infinite amount of time, life can return to defy entropy once again before eventually ceasing to exist once more.
Humans collapse the quantum wave function due to observation, thus humans are not chaotic and in fact bring order down to the very foundations of reality.
frick this
post GOOD eldritch monstrosities
pic very much related
>trying to start shit between Murder Drones threads and F&C threads
Kindly have a nice day.
GOLB is better because it doesn't have an obnoxious personality attached to it. I think an eldritch abomination that makes obnoxious quips only works if it's something like a condescendng reality warping trickster like
. Not to mention how plain her body's design is.
Cyn's body is just a puppet for the Absolute Solver, more equivalent to an avatar. It's not clear what the entity actually looks like, if it even has a true form, but it mostly chooses to manifest in the physical universe through repurposing both non-biological (drone) matter and biological matter into giant centipede-like creatures with camera-like eye appendages.
Here is how you write Cosmis Horror/godlike being that can be beaten
stop sperging and make crack ships
>https://perchance.org/gtntjladvn
How the hell is Finn so white anyways if his dad looks like that
I still can’t believe King Man wasn’t in this miniseries. No, the baby version and the human woman version don’t count.
They do though
What a dumb villain
That's because they're not a villain
What kind of religion is GOLB anyway?
Golb is exclusively worshipped by internet forum users who wish to channel meme magic. Praise kek anon!
GOLB is just a discount lich with none of the build up cool voice work and still goes out like a b***h
>Golbetty turns herself into the Catalyst Comet and strikes Earth to create the Finn reincarnations because she needs Shermy to exist eventually to give Simon the Casper and Nova book
>TFW
>Simon fricked Finn, the FinnMon crack ship were right.
>instantly nopes the Litch for no reason
>can't stop scarab
Is Golb x Betty a canon ship?