Weapons aren’t needed in our society. It’s better to let a thief steal a TV than to commit murder. Regardless of the circumstances that led him to steal, a man’s life is always worth more than your possessions.
I've heard people say things like that a few times over the years, and it just boggles the mind. I want you to know that I literally cannot place myself in the frame of mind that you're in, where you'd value the life of a person who would forcibly steal from you more than you valued your own possessions. It just seems literally insane to think the way you think.
I always wonder what's the limit for that type of person. That anon just said "It’s better to let a thief steal a TV than to commit murder". Like. a TV is ok. What about if he steals your paycheck? Still no response? Things related to your work? And so.
People's sense of self-preservation has been attacked for a long time now, apparently to the point of inversion and surrender. I don't know if it's virtue signalling, like pretending to be some saint, but there's no self-sacrifice in not defending your property. Or maybe there is, that's what extreme social justice will make you think. You're a defender of the poor criminals.
it's still weird to me >inb4 it's a life I thought that was what mattered to conservacucks
a child has comitted no evildoing if you were to flip the coin and bring up abortion, whereas an adult who commits evil unto others for his own gain - regardless of the need for gain- with no regard for legitimate methods of wealth aquisition, has foregone the presumable good intent that a life should be incentivised toward.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I've tried to apply this logic to people I know, it turns out they contradict themselves in ways that are dumbfounding to me. The same way you're dumbfound right now. If you think in universal standards you'll go insane, because people aren't actually rational and *consistent* like we expect them to be. It's like thinking about paradoxes for prolonged periods of time, I don't know what it does to the psyche but it doesn't feel good. Self-contradiction is rife. What explains all this better than reason, is the fallen metaphysical state we're all in. The basis for these wrong judgements is our fallen consciousness. There is a higher way to be, and the first step is realizing there's a ladder to climb, it begins with learning right and wrong, and with humility.
I'm sorry if this sounds pretentious, I don't know of any other way to phrase it. I suppose I'm trying to say that there's no consolation or understanding to be found just looking at society. There's nothing to be done about it, and turning within, meditating and (apologies for evangelizing) studying the scriptures and early church fathers is not only a solution from the standpoint of society, because you'll drift towards the metaphysical "rightness" in the universe, as opposed to those who drift far away from it, but it's also a personal responsibility. I found this yt short, it gets the point across. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rhYggdLvWOI God bless.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think scripture as an area of analysis is useful to being a complete person although adhering to religious doctrine is as questionable as adhering to any other doctrine in my opinion.
It just happens that the sort of person who adheres to religious doctrine is lucky in the sense that it's founded on a set of moral principles whereas others like modern social doctrine are founded on whatever the current easiest way is to demonstrate at face value that you care about things without actually putting this into action.
This is why I think the blindly religious can also be led just as easily astray when gray areas are brought into question- and also why meditation and the practice of ethical problem solving is important.
Imho believing in a higher power should be no different from behaving in accordance with perceiving others as valuable.
dw anon, I probably sound pretentious
5 months ago
Anonymous
The field of morality and ethics is separate from the mystic practice of Hesychia. Debating and thinking about society is in another dimension. A spiritual experience is distantly connected to morality only because the grounding of an individual determines their morality in daily actions, so that's on me for carelessly conflating two different fields. If you don't think there's a God and that everything is a pointless dance of chemicals there's nothing stopping you in contradicting yourself, comitting abortions like it's nothing, etc. It's really like building a house on sand, but hinting at the Transcendental Argument for the existence of God into discussions about how insane people are, is wasting the argument. I guess if you already believe that it makes sense with a few degrees of separation, but if you don't it doesn't make sense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
The core of Christianity is not about following a set of beliefs, following dogma, but about Theosis, a new 'divinized' consciousness, a new way to be. Which Orthodoxy happens to carry within itself, within its liturgy and mystic tradition, and it's somewhat obscure even to the Orthodox from what I know. There's no mystic tradition without dogma, it's a requirement. I'm not telling you to convert, go to church, no, all you need is silence for a direct experience with the Divine. The liturgy, which is alien to the West but that's another topic, is something that's needed but personal transformation takes time and effort, even solitude, paradoxically, because everyone tells you to "go to church", we're "the bride of Christ", etc. but nothing can replace direct solitary practice. I'm saying this as someone who actually wants to go to Liturgy.
All this is very difficult to talk about, because it's incredibly complex and you can say something stupid or flat out wrong and give the wrong impression if you're not careful.
I have to constantly remind myself that I share the internet with sheltered terminally online children. When you keep this in mind, these opinions make more sense.
>unhinged stranger >u n h i n g e d s t r a n g e r >u N h I N G E d S t R a N G E R >N I N G E R S R N G E R >N I G E R S N G >NIGERSNG >Black folk
fascinating.
you forfeit your life when you engage in the malfeasant breach of the most basic modern societal obligations - the respect to another's right to live without fear
>rob keanu reeves
>re-enact a scene from lock stock and two smoking barrels
huh????
>make off with firearm
castle doctrinos lose again
Thank god only a firearm was taken and noone was hurt. Now they're gonna go do a crime with that firearm maybe noone will get hurt.
I'd hate to be Noone right now.
If Keanu had been there it wouldn’t have gone down like that
They just released the captured footage of the break in-
Kill all thieves.
How do you kill a thief when he stole your weapon?
Weapons aren’t needed in our society. It’s better to let a thief steal a TV than to commit murder. Regardless of the circumstances that led him to steal, a man’s life is always worth more than your possessions.
I'm gonna steal your anal virginity.
>oh wait, can't rape the willing
>a man’s life is always worth more than your possessions.
Personally I'd say it depends on the man and the possessions
If a man values my possessions more than his own life, who am I to argue? I will take $.34 off his body for the bullet I have him4hxkns
Cūck.
I've heard people say things like that a few times over the years, and it just boggles the mind. I want you to know that I literally cannot place myself in the frame of mind that you're in, where you'd value the life of a person who would forcibly steal from you more than you valued your own possessions. It just seems literally insane to think the way you think.
I always wonder what's the limit for that type of person. That anon just said "It’s better to let a thief steal a TV than to commit murder". Like. a TV is ok. What about if he steals your paycheck? Still no response? Things related to your work? And so.
These people would stand by and let their wives be raped to avoid being called a racist
People's sense of self-preservation has been attacked for a long time now, apparently to the point of inversion and surrender. I don't know if it's virtue signalling, like pretending to be some saint, but there's no self-sacrifice in not defending your property. Or maybe there is, that's what extreme social justice will make you think. You're a defender of the poor criminals.
it's still weird to me
>inb4 it's a life I thought that was what mattered to conservacucks
a child has comitted no evildoing if you were to flip the coin and bring up abortion, whereas an adult who commits evil unto others for his own gain - regardless of the need for gain- with no regard for legitimate methods of wealth aquisition, has foregone the presumable good intent that a life should be incentivised toward.
I've tried to apply this logic to people I know, it turns out they contradict themselves in ways that are dumbfounding to me. The same way you're dumbfound right now. If you think in universal standards you'll go insane, because people aren't actually rational and *consistent* like we expect them to be. It's like thinking about paradoxes for prolonged periods of time, I don't know what it does to the psyche but it doesn't feel good. Self-contradiction is rife. What explains all this better than reason, is the fallen metaphysical state we're all in. The basis for these wrong judgements is our fallen consciousness. There is a higher way to be, and the first step is realizing there's a ladder to climb, it begins with learning right and wrong, and with humility.
I'm sorry if this sounds pretentious, I don't know of any other way to phrase it. I suppose I'm trying to say that there's no consolation or understanding to be found just looking at society. There's nothing to be done about it, and turning within, meditating and (apologies for evangelizing) studying the scriptures and early church fathers is not only a solution from the standpoint of society, because you'll drift towards the metaphysical "rightness" in the universe, as opposed to those who drift far away from it, but it's also a personal responsibility. I found this yt short, it gets the point across. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rhYggdLvWOI God bless.
I think scripture as an area of analysis is useful to being a complete person although adhering to religious doctrine is as questionable as adhering to any other doctrine in my opinion.
It just happens that the sort of person who adheres to religious doctrine is lucky in the sense that it's founded on a set of moral principles whereas others like modern social doctrine are founded on whatever the current easiest way is to demonstrate at face value that you care about things without actually putting this into action.
This is why I think the blindly religious can also be led just as easily astray when gray areas are brought into question- and also why meditation and the practice of ethical problem solving is important.
Imho believing in a higher power should be no different from behaving in accordance with perceiving others as valuable.
dw anon, I probably sound pretentious
The field of morality and ethics is separate from the mystic practice of Hesychia. Debating and thinking about society is in another dimension. A spiritual experience is distantly connected to morality only because the grounding of an individual determines their morality in daily actions, so that's on me for carelessly conflating two different fields. If you don't think there's a God and that everything is a pointless dance of chemicals there's nothing stopping you in contradicting yourself, comitting abortions like it's nothing, etc. It's really like building a house on sand, but hinting at the Transcendental Argument for the existence of God into discussions about how insane people are, is wasting the argument. I guess if you already believe that it makes sense with a few degrees of separation, but if you don't it doesn't make sense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
The core of Christianity is not about following a set of beliefs, following dogma, but about Theosis, a new 'divinized' consciousness, a new way to be. Which Orthodoxy happens to carry within itself, within its liturgy and mystic tradition, and it's somewhat obscure even to the Orthodox from what I know. There's no mystic tradition without dogma, it's a requirement. I'm not telling you to convert, go to church, no, all you need is silence for a direct experience with the Divine. The liturgy, which is alien to the West but that's another topic, is something that's needed but personal transformation takes time and effort, even solitude, paradoxically, because everyone tells you to "go to church", we're "the bride of Christ", etc. but nothing can replace direct solitary practice. I'm saying this as someone who actually wants to go to Liturgy.
All this is very difficult to talk about, because it's incredibly complex and you can say something stupid or flat out wrong and give the wrong impression if you're not careful.
I have to constantly remind myself that I share the internet with sheltered terminally online children. When you keep this in mind, these opinions make more sense.
Remember to scream "i'm an ally!" during the robbery to get maximum ally points.
Scholarly strangers jogging
God bless that bench
>unhinged stranger
>u n h i n g e d s t r a n g e r
>u N h I N G E d S t R a N G E R
>N I N G E R S R N G E R
>N I G E R S N G
>NIGERSNG
>Black folk
fascinating.
all according to the keikaku (keikaku means masterplan)
you forfeit your life when you engage in the malfeasant breach of the most basic modern societal obligations - the respect to another's right to live without fear
Not my problem you willingly choose to be a serf. Always kill a traitor before an enemy.
what if said man is a serial child rapist?
Cuck mentality. 100% sure you're american.
God-tier bait.
that's very racist
>oooh no le heckin Keanurinhooo
we don't post selfies here
were the robbers hot chicks?
It was free frickin pizza!
>No, NOOO! Don't take my gun, don't take my gun! NOOOO--
He probably gave it to them and sent them off with an autograph
i wonder what crime was commited with that gun to burn it so publicly
If he was at home, would it be legal for him to shoot them
Captain Reddit owns a firearm? Redditors must be falling to pieces
what kind of firearm?
antique one?
nice marketing campaign
>ahhh no masked men! Don’t hold me down and stick your veiny, throbbing burglar wieners in my statuesque anus!!
Outside his success in film, this guy has the worst luck.
did they force him to let them suck his wiener?
they sucked his dick?