>Goodbye, my invincible ghost army
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Can't believe I used to think this movie was good
Only Fellowship is good. Even the actors like based Viggo think so too. TTT and ROTK are cgislop that are carried by the acting and score.
Correct. When you look into the production of LoTR it becomes apparent why Two Towers and RoTK ended up as the inferior films
trips of truth. fellowship is well done, i stop there.
Fellowship is obviously the best but your opinion is literally
>Viggo said so
That thread really should have been drawn out and not just deus ex machina'd the way it was.
Why didn't he ask them to defeat the orcs of Mordor?
If you need to ask then you will never be one of the Men of the West.
This and the “why didn’t they fly to mordor” are peak “why yes I don’t pay attention to movies, why do you ask?” criticisms.
Can't believe I used to think this movie was good...
And rewatch it years later and have it confirm my initial praise!
Millions must watch
Would you break an oath that cursed the previous oath breakers? Oaths seem to be big shit in lotr
The witch king was killed by a woman for leaning into the prophecy “no man shall kill him”
Frodo lost his finger because he swore gollum to not take the ring off his finger
Gollum fell into mount doom because he swore to cast himself into mount doom if he broke his promise not to harm Frodo.
The whole Simils thing was an oath gone bad
>Frodo lost his finger because he swore gollum to not take the ring off his finger
Why would Frodo make Gollum swear to that when the plan was to never actually put the ring on his finger in the first place?
Just ask them to fight both armies to begin with, it's not like it would be hard for them.
But they are le op army just force them xDDDD
>witch king was killed by a woman
Its was the hobbit that killed him
There were some pretty bad moments in RotK
Only counts as one bad moment
heh
frick you
pretty good anon
I don't get it
I count 30!
Kino post for a kino film.
everyone in my theater cheered and clapped at this scene
Did normalgays really?
I would have really enjoyed this scene if the elephant had darker skin.
It's a fantasy I go back to a lot...
amerifats?
Not only did Strider cruelly murder an unarmed diplomat, but he also partook in the forbidden art of Necromancy. He truly is one of the most evil protagonists in cinema.
In the Old Testament, there was the prophet Ezekiel who did necromancy and raised the dead.
http://web.mit.edu/jywang/www/cef/Bible/NIV/NIV_Bible/EZEK+37.html#:~:text=He%20asked%20me%2C%20%22Son%20of,LORD%2C%20you%20alone%20know.%22&text=Then%20he%20said%20to%20me,the%20word%20of%20the%20LORD!&text=This%20is%20what%20the%20Sovereign,you%20will%20come%20to%20life.
New Testament has Jesus bringing some guy named Lazarus back to life.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-stories/chapter-43-jesus-brings-lazarus-back-to-life?lang=eng
He didn't raise them moron, they were already up, if anything he put them to rest by allowing them to fulfill their oath.
I think in the book they're only used to take the ships to get the reinforcements Aragorn already had with him to Gondor, and then he let them go, they never went to that battle at all
in the books theyre actual ghosts and cant fight anything, they use the freaky ghost army to scare the cosairs of umbar (back up fleet of pirate ships coming to gondor to help the mordor army) they abandon their ships and aragorn and a bunch of actual living men he recruits from around gondor and his ranger friends etc... take the ships and help win the battle. So in the books the ghosts are used only as a scare tactic as thats all they could be used for anyway.
in the books is fricking moronic and I was checking 3 times if I missed something reading it again and again, because Aragorn arrives with his boat and 20 good men and suddenly they win the battle which they were losing until 3 seconds ago when 3 boats arrived.
It doesnt even tell you how, they arrive, and its basically won
Its beyond moronic and while the ghost army is stupid in the movie, its still way better than what happens in the books
I think I've seen loregays post that they didn't actually kill anyone in the books they kind of just scared a bunch of pirates into leaving. More like butt pirates lmao bravo tolkien.
I don't think they're supposed to be corporeal at all, can't use actual weapons and shit, they're just ghosts
they're spooOOOooOOOoo0ooOOOoooOOOky ghosts
They defended the white city, that was their pact. They fulfilled it. An offensive into mordor goes beyond the scope of their contract and would've opened aragorn to financial liability.
>the white city
>the last beacon of hope to protect the world from hordes of violent immigrants from the east
what did tolkien mean by this?
White men are the creators and maintainers of civilized society. Without us mankind would still be living in mud huts.
You don't think the Asians would have eventually stepped up and shouldered they yellow man's burden?
Nah. Too authoritarian, no imagination. All they know how to do is follow orders.
>An offensive into mordor goes beyond the scope of their contract and would've opened aragorn to financial liability.
speaking of that, remind me which is Aragorn's taxes policy.
That’s such a stupid argument because Tolkien carefully wrote his military campaigns to occur on a reasonable timeline, support a supply chain and the whole campaign of Gondor vrs Mordor vrs Saruman is carefully mapped out with Rohan being the element they are all balancing
And the other has dragons and magic green fire and ice zombies
>defended the white city
best defense is a good offense
>hey guys i know i said i'll set you free but like can you hang around a bit till we storm the gates of mordor? just for old times sake?
Scenes women and betas will never understand
*this kills the LOTR gays*
>*this kills the hackson gays*
they are intangible in the book and their biggest contribution is spooking a couple pirates so that gondor's vassals can make it to the battle in time
>carefully write your books to leave as little plot holes possible for over 50 years
>hackson arrives and changes everything for literally no reason
Reminder that there was no need to alter the book for this part other than complete morons going "dude all that time wasted just for the ghosts to scare some people?"
If "time constraints" was the problem then just say the ghosts blocked a quicker path to Gondor and Aragorn makes the ghosts go away. Or at least say something like "Sauron will make these ghots turn on us with his evil powers"
>carefully write your books to leave as little plot holes possible for over 50 years
more like carefully write your books to be as boring as humanly possible so that nobody can pay attention long enough to notice plot holes
Jackson just got lucky to be an avatar of the divine for a moment
Every before and after was corny schlock
King Kong was good
The Eagles only owed Gandalf a favor, not the fellowship
yeah but don't the eagles also want to defeat Sauron? Or would they prefer flying over an orc shit hole for the rest of their lives?
Eagles are basically angels, they can give a little push if they are in need but they are not solving all of men's problem, the Maia wouldn't allow it. That is assuming flying into Mordor was possible.
Oh, you’d like that wouldn’t you? Yeah, why don’t the eagles just risk talon and beak to fly you directly into Mordor just so you don’t have to break a sweat? What does it matter how many eagles die, they’re just eagles, right? In fact, why don’t they just fly me to the supermarket to pick up my groceries? Or to work every morning? The eagles just exist for your convenience right? Not like we have SHIT to DO you flightless FRICK. God I hate “hurr eagles” gays.
>Send from my nest
The ghosts did help them to take the ships and free the people that made up their army to help Gondor, so it wasn't "just to scare some people"
>Fly on the eagles, you fools!
I remember some dumb friend of my swearing that he said flee, when it was so obviously him offering them a shortcut to end the story in the first movie but them not taking it because Sean Bean was still in the party and he can't NOT die in a movie
>Sean Bean was still in the party and he can't NOT die in a movie
Ronin.
the eagles would have absolutely stolen the ring. not to mention sauron would have seen them coming from the moment they started
Hobbit trilogy is better
No.
>guy makes a deal
>he kept his word
He was based. End of thread.
Fact: ROTK at its worst is still better than anything Sneedsney has put out in the last eight years.
Let us go through the Mines of Moria
Some of Aragorn’s actions can be understood in context of he needs to fulfill his oath to Elrond for Arwens hand.
It’s part of why Elrond is such a shitty grump, he knows his daughter is going to choose her human heritage and die. He knows this because he raised the man she is in love with and knows the boy is going to follow through with his promise. But Aragorn has to do all this to marry Arwen
So its all bittersweet
it'd be cool if this was in the movie, instead of... you know
Cheaper to have the ghost army fight Sauron's forces than have another battle where the events of Pelargir are shown and the Southern armies of Gondor arriving at the Pelennor fields.
Why are gays so salty about the ghost army? Did you morons not read the books when you were 13?
Regardless of mayor changes and such or if the movies follow the books enough. As if these movies aren't some of the most kino fricking movies to come out in our life time. Something that will never be replicated anytime soon .
Would he have been the kind of man to not hold his promise, they wouldn't have followed him... so it's a self fullfilling prophecy and the whole arc showed that Aragorn doesn't want power for power's sake, that's why he was able to use the Palantir for a moment after that without getting rekt.
They were only contracted for one battle sorry m8.
Extended edition TT and RotK are actually kind of miserable, just more scenes of sam and frodo eyefricking eachother and they make gimli the comic relief he just constantly gets shit on but in Fellowship he had some dignity
What the frick was his problem?
Keep your word homosexual or no one will respect you and in the end you won't have anything
I've decided I want to start Gandalf Maxxing. I plan to do the following:
>Move to the countryside
>Grow my beard and hair out long
>Start smoking weed in a pipe
>Befriend some midgets and start forcing them to come on adventures with me
>Find employment selling illegal fireworks
Don't forget to do a lap of the continent every other decade
i watched return of the king for the first time since 2011 a couple months ago and felt like i was watching season 8 of game of thrones all over again. everything in isengard and minas tarth was paced way too quickly, while the mt doom segments were a fricking chore to get through. the ghost army is one of the worst deus ex machina endings in any movie ever.