he wasn't greek, he was macedonian. he was very likely a huge homosexual though considering after his boyfriend died he lost his mind and died
>monkeydonians
He spoke Greek, was born in modern day Greece, spread Greek culture and considered himself Greek. Macedonia was Greek and what you claim would be like saying Leonidas wasn't Greek he was Spartan. Modern day Monkeydonia is simply a bunch of unwashed Bulgarian homosexuals who try to have some semblance of relevancy by impotently claiming "we wuz kangz n sheit"
>monkeydonian cope
No matter how much you claim we wuz kangz everyone knows you're just a bunch of smelly Bulgarian rejects and that Alexander was Greek.
Thracians were also Greek
Cope and seethe more you subhuman
Don't know what books you been reading but they didn't, they only let the Argead family participate in the Olympics, not any other Macedonians. They called them barbarians for simple things like how they drank wine, but also things like the lack of elections and elected positions of the state.
Alexander was Greek, Macedonian sheep farmer was not.
>t. monkeydonian
Macedonia was Greek. Your made up country is some Bulgarian shithole who brainwashes their people into believe "we wuz kangz n sheit" more shamelessly than the blacks here in America.
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It's what the ancient Greeks wrote and said, were they Greek when paying taxes to Darius?
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Keep coping Monkeydonian. Alexander was Greek. Macedonia was Greek. Thrace was Greek. You're a slimy bulgarian reject
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>t. monkeydonian
Macedonia was Greek. Your made up country is some Bulgarian shithole who brainwashes their people into believe "we wuz kangz n sheit" more shamelessly than the blacks here in America.
Bulgaria is older than Greece. Let that sink in.
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Monkeydonian cope reaching new levels
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That's literally a historical fact. There is no Greece before 1821AD
Bulgaria was founded in 681AD
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>muh state is the only benchmark for the existence of a region containing a homogenous ethnic peoples
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LMAO
Greece has been around for like 4000 years
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Source?
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>India
Alexander left no impact whatsoever on India in any meaningful metric.
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Good morning sir
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I think he means Greece as an unified nation. Back in ancient Greece you were considered greek only if you behave like one and followed greek values. The macedonians for example became increasingly greek after they got schooled by Greek tutors
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They called themselves "hellenes" (ancient equivalent of greeks) because they were the same race, spoke the same language and had the same religion.
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>same race
false, Spartans were descendants of the ancient Achaeans. Other Hellenes like the Athenians and Corinthians were descendants of the ancient Mycenaean that came to Greece long before the achaeans. Those from Epirus were probably related to the thracians. Macedonians were probably Mycenaean also but the fact that they lived on the north they received influences of the thracians and Illyrian.
he wasn't greek, he was macedonian. he was very likely a huge homosexual though considering after his boyfriend died he lost his mind and died
Alexander the Great was clearly bisexual. If you read his biographies, he was tearing up just as much pussy as boypussy.
The biggest chads in history are bi
the only source on his supposed gayginess was propaganda by his enemies tho
In the ancient world, homosexuality wasn't really a thing. Men having sex with young boys / each other wasn't condemned, it was completely normalized. The idea that something like sodomy is a "sin" wouldn't find its way into mainstream belief until centuries later.
[...]
See: [...]
[...]
Yes, it was. Homosexuality as a concept is pretty recent.
Sometimes I wonder if “dude le greeks were homosexual homosexuals who fricked other men and boys lmao” is an example of israeli slander/rumor in history that eventually worked out, now everyone believes all those masculine hardworking men actually were homosexuals thousands of years later through repetitive slander in media. “when you keep repeating something it eventually becomes true.”
No, it's just something ancient greeks wrote about in a very matter-of-fact way because pederasty (not homosexuality) was fairly normal. It's in some of their myths, it's in Plato, it's in Thucydides, and more. You are trying to apply christcuck morality to pagan morality, so in this case you are being the victim of israeli lies, not the greeks.
[...] >monkeydonians
He spoke Greek, was born in modern day Greece, spread Greek culture and considered himself Greek. Macedonia was Greek and what you claim would be like saying Leonidas wasn't Greek he was Spartan. Modern day Monkeydonia is simply a bunch of unwashed Bulgarian homosexuals who try to have some semblance of relevancy by impotently claiming "we wuz kangz n sheit"
[...]
Based
See:
Ancient Greeks didn't consider Macedonians Greek.
>Fricking men is just something you did back then
it wasn't, schlomo
Yes, it was. Homosexuality as a concept is pretty recent.
he was a filthy homosexual. He only ever touched a woman because it was expected it of him and he was essentially forced, he was probably saying "ew ew ew gross jeez omg I am so gonna hurl" the entire time like the twink homosexual he was.
>If you read his biographies, he was tearing up just as much pussy as boypussy.
literally zero contemporary sources mention anything about him having gay sex.
They compare him and Hephaestion to Achilles and Patrocles, but even that has nothing to do with gayness, the Illiad makes ZERO reference to any hint of gayness between Achilles and Patrocles.
1: He was Macedonian, not greek. 2: Fricking men is just something you did back then.
he wasn't greek, he was macedonian. he was very likely a huge homosexual though considering after his boyfriend died he lost his mind and died
>homosexuality wasn't very controversial in ancient Greece >Alexander didn' give a frick what people think about him anway >redditors and trannies firmly believe he was *SECRETLY* gay because ???????
why would he hide his relationship, if he was gay, there would be no place for arguments, he would be opne about it, yet all you have is weird interpretations from neo-historian looking for secret context and secret gays everywhere
it just doesn't add up, sorry
go back
this, look at hadrian and antinous. It was open, it was documented, hadrian deified him. There's little reason pagan europeans would need to skulk about and keep things like that secret, especially if they were extremely powerful, like an emperorer or king. If it's not documented then where's the credibility to the claim?
In the ancient world, homosexuality wasn't really a thing. Men having sex with young boys / each other wasn't condemned, it was completely normalized. The idea that something like sodomy is a "sin" wouldn't find its way into mainstream belief until centuries later.
homosexuality was the same thing it always has been, pederasty. and no, germans were throwing homosexuals into bogs long before any of the shit you’re talking about. the ancient world isn’t a monolith moron
>The Roman historian Tacitus reports that the Germanic tribes execute homosexuals (corpores infames, “those who disgracefully abuse their bodies”) and sink them into swamps. Remains of several such corpses have been found in the peat bogs of Denmark and northern Germany and are now exhibited in museums.
The thing about northern people and germanics is that they didn’t have to deal with the fricking Arabs, huns and mongrels that constantly raided Europe, I resent them for that only, at the end of the day they’re still our family
Only the rich, or high-status could afford to keep young boys, wasn't it? The poor would have less practical reason if they needed to produce children for human labor.
Napoleon was right about history being merely an agreed-upon set of lies.
The winner almost always wrote the historybooks.
How else do you explain only the "good guys" winning for almost all recorded history?
Even when the recorders lost, they just wrote it so that they actually won, such as Ramses II's wars.
>they brought these ancient civilizations to their knees and destroyed their power >we should totally tolerate them in our current civilization though :^)
there was a shipwreck in the 16th century when spain and england were going at it trying to have naval supremacy and a bunch of tanned big dick raphael nadal looking mofos washed up on shore near a bunch of pasty irish broads and suddenly you got fricks with the last name costello all over ireland
It’s mental illness cope from discord “right wingers”. The kind of people who spend all day seething about the difference between a trap and a troony. It’s all hopeless porn addicted homosexualry
the fat frick molesting would be the first one to get murdered, probably by the son himself
Sexual pleasure wasn’t the fricking point, sometimes the reward, but the education part is important, which teached the boy manlyhood and adulthood, you think less of your ancestors than the fricking left
i’m actually white so no, my ancestors threw those freaks into swamps. you’re defending a society where grown men went around grooming and molesting little boys, I don’t give a shit what sort of “education” was going on. if you are willing to accept your own child being arse raped so he can learn geometry you’re a israelite, simple as.
Sodomy was a fricking taboo moron, as it effeminates the boy in question which the fricking purpose of all pederasty is to do the opposite, also you’re Protestant aren’t ya ?
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>dude, arse raping little boys makes them into men!
It makes them into mentally ill gays
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Work on your reading comprehension anon
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>sodomy effeminates the boy >purpose of pederasty is to do the opposite
??
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...Therefore his is claim is that pederasty didn't involve sodomy.
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what did it involve then? making out in a totally straight way?
Their identity was deeply rooted in the Byzantine/Roman empire and called themselves Romaoi/Romans until WW1 more or less.
And Macedonia wasn't something they identified with until WW2/Civil war and the 1970s when the sun of Vergina was discovered.
Interestingly, the Vergina sun can be found in many churches in the "Norf" and can also be seen on photos from the 19th century on people's homes.
>he was gay >why did he exclusively marry women then >uhhh he was bisexual >why didn't he marry any men if it was socially acceptable and okay to be gay in ancient greece >uhhh he just... he didn't ok? don't question it chud
The Greeks were not gay and did not tolerate homosexuals, they punished homosexuality with humiliating death penalties. It was so taboo that homosexuality as a concept did not even exist.
There were gay pederasts, but they were a tiny minority among the elite, and universally reviled. Homosexual activity was never tolerated in Greek culture or civilization.
He's based. Weird that the mantle of defending White Civilization from these facially ridiculous slanders has fallen to a random white zoomer with a YouTube page, but just try and find someone else fighting this fight, and there's practically no one else pointing out how dumb these ideas are.
Western Civilization has fallen into a complete malaise of inactivity and group think. How long until the Mouse experiment runs its course, and we can restart?
homosexuals really do be trying to normalize sodomy. It's annoying how people just go along with this shit despite never having read any ancient material.
Bagoas do be zesty tho
1: He was Macedonian, not greek. 2: Fricking men is just something you did back then.
>monkeydonians
He spoke Greek, was born in modern day Greece, spread Greek culture and considered himself Greek. Macedonia was Greek and what you claim would be like saying Leonidas wasn't Greek he was Spartan. Modern day Monkeydonia is simply a bunch of unwashed Bulgarian homosexuals who try to have some semblance of relevancy by impotently claiming "we wuz kangz n sheit"
Based
Ancient Greeks didn't consider Macedonians Greek.
>monkeydonian cope
No matter how much you claim we wuz kangz everyone knows you're just a bunch of smelly Bulgarian rejects and that Alexander was Greek.
Thracians were also Greek
Cope and seethe more you subhuman
Don't know what books you been reading but they didn't, they only let the Argead family participate in the Olympics, not any other Macedonians. They called them barbarians for simple things like how they drank wine, but also things like the lack of elections and elected positions of the state.
Alexander was Greek, Macedonian sheep farmer was not.
>t. monkeydonian
Macedonia was Greek. Your made up country is some Bulgarian shithole who brainwashes their people into believe "we wuz kangz n sheit" more shamelessly than the blacks here in America.
It's what the ancient Greeks wrote and said, were they Greek when paying taxes to Darius?
Keep coping Monkeydonian. Alexander was Greek. Macedonia was Greek. Thrace was Greek. You're a slimy bulgarian reject
Bulgaria is older than Greece. Let that sink in.
Monkeydonian cope reaching new levels
That's literally a historical fact. There is no Greece before 1821AD
Bulgaria was founded in 681AD
>muh state is the only benchmark for the existence of a region containing a homogenous ethnic peoples
LMAO
Greece has been around for like 4000 years
Source?
>India
Alexander left no impact whatsoever on India in any meaningful metric.
Good morning sir
I think he means Greece as an unified nation. Back in ancient Greece you were considered greek only if you behave like one and followed greek values. The macedonians for example became increasingly greek after they got schooled by Greek tutors
They called themselves "hellenes" (ancient equivalent of greeks) because they were the same race, spoke the same language and had the same religion.
>same race
false, Spartans were descendants of the ancient Achaeans. Other Hellenes like the Athenians and Corinthians were descendants of the ancient Mycenaean that came to Greece long before the achaeans. Those from Epirus were probably related to the thracians. Macedonians were probably Mycenaean also but the fact that they lived on the north they received influences of the thracians and Illyrian.
Frick off, Dacian catamite.
Nationalists are so moronic
Bulgarians are whiter than Greeks though.
By the time of King Philip they were considered greek. A big reason was because of how eagerly the macedonians assimilated the greek culture
scambanian detected. albanians are the goatfrickers of the balkans.
Greeks did not consider the Macedonians to be Greek. Period. Philip and Alexander both did their best to win them over, but failed. Not unlike you.
>Fricking men is just something you did back then
it wasn't, schlomo
>t. obvious albanoSerboBulgarian from a 30 year old made up meme country
I hope all the best for you bro
Who told you Ancient Greeks, Macedonians and Romans were homosexual?
Plato thought that achilles and patroclus were sausage squatters.
Achilles was often nicknamed “Prostates” by his fellow soldiers because he enjoyed getting railed
Macedonia is an ancient Greek Kingdom.
North Monkeydonia is a joke. You are Bulgarians. Get rekt
Sometimes I wonder if “dude le greeks were homosexual homosexuals who fricked other men and boys lmao” is an example of israeli slander/rumor in history that eventually worked out, now everyone believes all those masculine hardworking men actually were homosexuals thousands of years later through repetitive slander in media. “when you keep repeating something it eventually becomes true.”
It’s the reverse, israelites have tried to label male companionship and brotherhood as wanting to be a woman and marry men.
No, it's just something ancient greeks wrote about in a very matter-of-fact way because pederasty (not homosexuality) was fairly normal. It's in some of their myths, it's in Plato, it's in Thucydides, and more. You are trying to apply christcuck morality to pagan morality, so in this case you are being the victim of israeli lies, not the greeks.
Fricking israelite liar
he wasn't greek, he was macedonian. he was very likely a huge homosexual though considering after his boyfriend died he lost his mind and died
His mother was greek, he spoke greek, he was culturally greek, his master was a greek philosopher
See:
Yes, it was. Homosexuality as a concept is pretty recent.
>see my cope reply with no historical basis
kys monkeydonian
His mother was an Epirote. More closely related to the Macedonians than the Greeks. Nice try tough.
Molossians were greek, try again
Alexander the Great was clearly bisexual. If you read his biographies, he was tearing up just as much pussy as boypussy.
The biggest chads in history are bi
>boypussy
No such thing, homosexual.
ALL homosexuals and dikes should be culled.
he was a filthy homosexual. He only ever touched a woman because it was expected it of him and he was essentially forced, he was probably saying "ew ew ew gross jeez omg I am so gonna hurl" the entire time like the twink homosexual he was.
Nice post. Some good israelitemaxxing right there
we do what we can, there's a war on after all.
Everyone must do there part.
>If you read his biographies, he was tearing up just as much pussy as boypussy.
literally zero contemporary sources mention anything about him having gay sex.
They compare him and Hephaestion to Achilles and Patrocles, but even that has nothing to do with gayness, the Illiad makes ZERO reference to any hint of gayness between Achilles and Patrocles.
>homosexuality wasn't very controversial in ancient Greece
>Alexander didn' give a frick what people think about him anway
>redditors and trannies firmly believe he was *SECRETLY* gay because ???????
why would he hide his relationship, if he was gay, there would be no place for arguments, he would be opne about it, yet all you have is weird interpretations from neo-historian looking for secret context and secret gays everywhere
it just doesn't add up, sorry
go back
this, look at hadrian and antinous. It was open, it was documented, hadrian deified him. There's little reason pagan europeans would need to skulk about and keep things like that secret, especially if they were extremely powerful, like an emperorer or king. If it's not documented then where's the credibility to the claim?
But that's not Diogenes
YWNBAW
For me, it's Diomede.
the only source on his supposed gayginess was propaganda by his enemies tho
In the ancient world, homosexuality wasn't really a thing. Men having sex with young boys / each other wasn't condemned, it was completely normalized. The idea that something like sodomy is a "sin" wouldn't find its way into mainstream belief until centuries later.
homosexuality was the same thing it always has been, pederasty. and no, germans were throwing homosexuals into bogs long before any of the shit you’re talking about. the ancient world isn’t a monolith moron
>germans were throwing homosexuals into bogs long before any of the shit you’re talking about.
Source?
>The Roman historian Tacitus reports that the Germanic tribes execute homosexuals (corpores infames, “those who disgracefully abuse their bodies”) and sink them into swamps. Remains of several such corpses have been found in the peat bogs of Denmark and northern Germany and are now exhibited in museums.
Tacitus was born hundreds of years after Alexander though. Does he say that the tribes were doing this for a long time?
Still antiquity, and the archeological evidence goes back a long way
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bog_bodies
There are several here
Interesting. I'll definitely read more into it.
Man you’re moronic. It wasn’t even universally accepted in greece.
Who the frick care about the Germans? They were barbarians. Literally subhuman
whiter than you homosexual
And? Whiter doesn't mean better.
The thing about northern people and germanics is that they didn’t have to deal with the fricking Arabs, huns and mongrels that constantly raided Europe, I resent them for that only, at the end of the day they’re still our family
What do you mean? Germans were raided by mongols and moors. That's why you can find tanned Germans and Germans with slanted eyes
During the Roman Empire or the Hellenistic Empire mostly, but even later how many moors did northern Germany or even southern Germany have to endure ?
Entire Germany was under Huns. Germanic tribes were raped by Huns daily for centuries.
Only the rich, or high-status could afford to keep young boys, wasn't it? The poor would have less practical reason if they needed to produce children for human labor.
Ancient Greeks were gays. Socrates was a gay. Alexander was a gay. I’m tolerant of gays, but they destroyed Greece and Rome
Sounds like they WERE Ancient Greece and Rome. You have cognitive dissonance.
>they wuz
they wuzn't tho
theres no actual proof just modern lefty homosexuals making dubious claims cause it fits their agenda.
Napoleon was right about history being merely an agreed-upon set of lies.
The winner almost always wrote the historybooks.
How else do you explain only the "good guys" winning for almost all recorded history?
Even when the recorders lost, they just wrote it so that they actually won, such as Ramses II's wars.
>How else do you explain only the "good guys" winning for almost all recorded history?
They didn’t. See the various falls of Rome.
>How else do you explain only the "good guys" winning for almost all recorded history?
Huh
>How else do you explain only the "good guys" winning for almost all recorded history?
This is simply not true.
Well I just said it, so Yes, it is true.
Only literal morons who see history as "good guys fighting bad guys" think this. History is not a capeshit movie, you simpleton
he's saying it's not, moron
>they brought these ancient civilizations to their knees and destroyed their power
>we should totally tolerate them in our current civilization though :^)
>angloid director makes film about historically great general
>turns out to be a factually inaccurate hit piece
Pathetic gayreek cope.
>monkeydonian so booty blasted he doesn't even reply to the posts he's seething about
Alexander is Greek. Keep coping.
greek "man" in history
>>was extremely homosexual
it happens more often than you'd like to think
>be most powerful man in world
>diogenes straight up tells you to frick off to your face
Real ancient Macedonian here, ask me anything.
И нe, нe cмe пeдepи мaмe ти eбaм.
>ITT: Albanians shitposting
Algaynians>Monkeydonians
feckin' Greeks
How can an irish guy look so mediterranean?
I believe they’re called the black Irish
gaelics come from spain
Welsh are kind of swarthy too aren't they? Remnants of their ancient Scythian origins I guess before the vikings came and whitened up the gene pool.
there was a shipwreck in the 16th century when spain and england were going at it trying to have naval supremacy and a bunch of tanned big dick raphael nadal looking mofos washed up on shore near a bunch of pasty irish broads and suddenly you got fricks with the last name costello all over ireland
imagine the blessed day for irish women when they finally got a good tumble from some brown spaniards
Maybe he too is part Black person?
>was extremely homosexual
source?
my balls in your anus
Filtered plebian
they weren't gay
they weren’t degenerates, effeminates and sodomites but they loved boys, which is pederasty, patriarchal in nature, very different things
>dude i’d totally be okay with some fat aristocrat molesting my son
you’re a degwrnate
It’s mental illness cope from discord “right wingers”. The kind of people who spend all day seething about the difference between a trap and a troony. It’s all hopeless porn addicted homosexualry
the fat frick molesting would be the first one to get murdered, probably by the son himself
Sexual pleasure wasn’t the fricking point, sometimes the reward, but the education part is important, which teached the boy manlyhood and adulthood, you think less of your ancestors than the fricking left
i’m actually white so no, my ancestors threw those freaks into swamps. you’re defending a society where grown men went around grooming and molesting little boys, I don’t give a shit what sort of “education” was going on. if you are willing to accept your own child being arse raped so he can learn geometry you’re a israelite, simple as.
This. How is it any different to schools grooming kids now? I’d rather homeschool.
Sodomy was a fricking taboo moron, as it effeminates the boy in question which the fricking purpose of all pederasty is to do the opposite, also you’re Protestant aren’t ya ?
>dude, arse raping little boys makes them into men!
It makes them into mentally ill gays
Work on your reading comprehension anon
>sodomy effeminates the boy
>purpose of pederasty is to do the opposite
??
...Therefore his is claim is that pederasty didn't involve sodomy.
what did it involve then? making out in a totally straight way?
Having passionate gay sex with the lads is not gay, its a way of showing physical affection in a male friendship
Don't ask the gayreeks what they called themselves before the Germans and Brits decided to form a LARP nation when the Ottoman empire began to crumble
Acheans.
That's literally what they call themselves in Homer.
Their identity was deeply rooted in the Byzantine/Roman empire and called themselves Romaoi/Romans until WW1 more or less.
And Macedonia wasn't something they identified with until WW2/Civil war and the 1970s when the sun of Vergina was discovered.
Interestingly, the Vergina sun can be found in many churches in the "Norf" and can also be seen on photos from the 19th century on people's homes.
Do you actually believe Alexander was blonde? How naive can you be
That’s Apollo
Why would a Macedonian claim descent from Appolo? What a moronic shitpost
>he was gay
>why did he exclusively marry women then
>uhhh he was bisexual
>why didn't he marry any men if it was socially acceptable and okay to be gay in ancient greece
>uhhh he just... he didn't ok? don't question it chud
Might be because only women could have kids and heirs, maybe
you still couldn't marry a man homosexual, the modern romantic concept of marriage wasn't a thing
Yes
Ain’t ever meant a homie named Alexander who wasn’t zesty as hell
He had 3 wives and a mistress
Actually he died as a persian.
Explain
He went full native and wanted both people to mix and create a superior race. His generals were like "yeah whatever" after he died.
How does that make him a Persian? He didn't even live in Persia.
>character with literal god complex who succeeds at everything
name a better archetype
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The Greeks were not gay and did not tolerate homosexuals, they punished homosexuality with humiliating death penalties. It was so taboo that homosexuality as a concept did not even exist.
There were gay pederasts, but they were a tiny minority among the elite, and universally reviled. Homosexual activity was never tolerated in Greek culture or civilization.
based leather apron club poster
He's based. Weird that the mantle of defending White Civilization from these facially ridiculous slanders has fallen to a random white zoomer with a YouTube page, but just try and find someone else fighting this fight, and there's practically no one else pointing out how dumb these ideas are.
Western Civilization has fallen into a complete malaise of inactivity and group think. How long until the Mouse experiment runs its course, and we can restart?
homosexuals really do be trying to normalize sodomy. It's annoying how people just go along with this shit despite never having read any ancient material.
Also, I'm not a zoomer
I read somewhere that youtube vid with the most comments ever is about Alexanders nationality, its full of turkroach, greeks and other morons arguing.
>ITT: Bulgarians and Turks slapfight over who is whitest (neither of them are)
greek "man" in history
>>was extremely homosexual
how do chuds cope with the fact that the greatest men in history are always gay?
>mfw monkeydonians, turkroaches, bulgayrians and algaynians all trying to claim/diminish Greek history ITT