>greatest kinos of all time
>half aren't even in color
So by what metric are they even considered the greatest? Is it because they were the most influential or groundbreaking in new filmmaking techniques?
>greatest kinos of all time. >half aren't even in color
>old film is....LE GOOD
Tasteless millennials
Critics don't realize that just because a film is influential or changes a paradigm doesn't mean it's "good"
But it does means it's Great.
Zoomers don't realize that a film being a one of a kind contribution to an art form that changed the way we think of that art going forward is by far the best metric to consider it great. And no, I don't agree with most critics' lists at all.
>Cinemaphile whines about culture being globohomosexual and pozzed now
>too moronic to appreciate peak pre-globohomosexual cinema
lol you're all just posturing incels
>Pre-globohomosexual cinema
moronic schizo. Hollywood has been israelite-run since the 30s
yeah, Tokyo Story, Rules of the Game, et al. are really Hollywood. nice one moron.
Whoa 2 examples, what a great refutation. moron.
half the films on that list were outside of hollyisraelite influence, you fricking idiot
not to mention there is nothing remotely pozzed about most of those Hollywood films. are you pretending John Wayne and John Ford are le anti-white, morals subverting joos now?
If you hate movies so much, why do you browse the movie board?
I'm pretty sure no one is denying that the movies in OP pic are "great." The question is why those?
>Un Chien Andalou
I mean really?
I agree with you Un chien andalou is a bad pick but the "why" is pretty obvious. It's one of the most famous pieces of surrealist art and it's made by two well regarded artists.
Yes it's famous, but it's probably the biggest meme pick on the list when much better genre films are all almost entirely excluded.
>it's probably the biggest meme pick on the list
what the frick does this mean? talk like a normal person.
Meaning it's on the list because it's "famous," and it's famous for being weird and surreal.
What a horrible list. Anyone who puts Singing in the rain on their list of best movies of all time is a moron or a woman.
Yeah it feels like more of a "you have to watch all these before you die" list than anything.
King Kong was probably more influential on the film industry as a whole than most of the movies on that list.
Anglo-Franco bias
i mean citizen kane is just shit, anyone who claims it's good is a clown. but films like bicycle thieves, the hitchwiener films in that list, the chaplin films, they've got unique and captivating stories, they were experimenting with fresh cinematography, everything was good about them.
A lot of those movies seem trite by today's standards, but they were probably mind-blowing back in their day.
When's the new list out?
Why did Japan stop making kinos?
They didn't?
Name one good Japanese movie.
Non-meme answer is that television sets started to become commonplace in every Japanese home in the 70's, which meant that audiences were less likely to go to the cinemas. Then the economic collapse in late 1991 severely crippled what was left of their film industry. It's all about the money at the end of the day.
threads like these remind why I hate nuCinemaphile so fricking much
The whole Internet is full of millennials and zoomies who don't watch anything made before they were born. The future is doomed.
That's not true
I'm 33 and only watch older shit. It's just that a lot of movies that are in the running for the "greatest of all time" are only canonized because people just like to repeat what they know other people like. Case in point: Seven Samurai. It's influential, but it's not even Kurosawa's best movie. I liked The Hidden Fortress better.
High and Low is Kurosawa’s best imo. Ran is his best samurai film
I mean everyone likes Seven Samurai, but it's a feel-good action/adventure movie. It just has lots of fluff to give all of the samurai and main peasants characterization, whereas later movies that copied it would forego most of that, and give the antagonists more screentime.
don't get me wrong, I still love Seven Samurai. I just think Kurosawa made better films
They do this with Spielberg too by putting Jaws on the list rather than any of his later movies. Jaws is great, but I think Jurassic Park is better.
>feel-good
You never actually watched this movie, did you?
It's a good ending even though some of the samurai and peasants die in battle.
>#29
Are you zoomers actually this moronic?
Millennials and zoomers don't even watch movies anymore. If they do it's only capeshit. The very idea that black and white movies could be considered classics is insulting to them.
Millennial here. Please don't group me in with moronic capeshitters. I've probably seen more b&w films than 90% of Cinemaphile combined
>I was born in the wrong generation
where did I say that? I've seen plenty of modern movies as well. I don't subscribe to the "new bad, old good" or "old bad, new good" trains of thought. a good film is a good film, regardless of when or where it was made
That's how you do it buddy.
A lot of the old black and white movies, especially the ones people harp over are just stage dramas. They don't do anything interesting with the medium. I hardly consider them movies.
The B&W movies on this list are overhwlmingly exactly the opposite of what you describe them as lmao. Start actually watching movies instead of larping on Cinemaphile, zoomer
Maybe Tiktok and Twitch streams are more your speed.
>The very idea that black and white movies could be considered classics is insulting to them.
lmao no one has ever implied this. I mostly watch black-and-white movies, but I think it's unfair to judge them on the same criteria as color movies the same way I don't judge silent movies against talkies.
Why?
They were both being made at the same time.
Silent and B&W movies were handicapped by the technology and budgets available to them. I'm not saying silent and B&W movies are bad, but they are inferior to talkies and color movies on an objective technical level.
No.
Orson Welles refused to film in color.
John Huston filmed in b&w into the 60s.
The greatest film of the 60s is b&w.
The Coens made The Man Who Wasn't There in 2001.
You should find a subject you have knowledge of, if such a thing exists, before you start pontificating.
Pic related is 1974.
You're confusing filming in B&W as a stylistic choice vs filming in B&W as a necessity based on what was available to the director. Or are you going to try tell me that movies like Seven Samurai or The Battle of Algiers wouldn't have been better in color?
k, I am gonna do it
it better be better than edge of tomorrow
There is a reason why the film general is the worst general in this board.
yes, the schizos and namegays. it used to be a good general, but it succumbed to the same fate as every other general. this is why generals are always a bad idea
>Vertigo
Why is this so highly rated? There are several Hitchwiener kinos that are better, Rear Window, Psycho, Dial M for Murder, that one that looks like its all done in one take.
I would guess
>soundtrack
>plot
>composition and cinematography
>universality of its theme (trying to make someone into something they're not) hidden among ghost story
Rear Window is a great self-contained story and a well-made movie but that's it, ditto Dial M. Rope was just a gimmick with pisspoor acting as usual from Farley Granger. Psycho I do agree should be up there too, but its theme also isn't as universal
>psycho
literally his most overrated work and it doesnt hold up unlike vertigo
Vertigo and Rope are both kino