Something about this comic feels more dated than actual silver age comics. These characters are all written like boomers. Is it just due to the era it's from (mid 2000s) or is it a geoff johns thing?
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It's more of a "characters are not written by talentless hack zoomer dipshits whose only social experience is shitposting on twitter" sort of thing.
I'm not really comparing it to any modern comics though. Even when compared to other comics of that era this reads like pure boomer garbage. Morrison's New X-Men came out years before this and yet it feels like it's several generations ahead of this geoff johns book.
GL Rebirth was great, go complain about boomers where someone else actually gives a shit.
I disagree. I feel like these characters are going to tell me to just look 'em in the eye and give 'em a firm handshake and you'll be good to go son!
the actual story is sleep inducing crap (Parallax ooh the color yellow, your biggest nemesis!! /Spectre i am the spirit of vengeance)
you sure use lot of words to say nothing
No he is right, the Spectre-Force is indeed how Waid (a boomer) would resolve his favourite character getting turned into the Spectre.
And I know because his Shazam run worked like this.
Morrison is a trannie homosexual and none of his work is valid anymore.
Cope, Boomer
He wishes he is Alan Moore but never will
Morrison's X-Men is amateurish trash. Nowhere near as believably written as Johns's Green Lantern.
>believably written
lol
he turned the JL into bumbling idiots and wrote batman completely off character so he could retcon the shit out of his Hal. you wouldn't know believability if it hit you in the face, you low IQ mouth breather.
>buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword
Summarizing OP?
Best superhero run of the 2000s, OP you shithead.
I don't know about that.
Nope, that would be Wildcats 3.0. Johnsshit doesn't even qualify.
Geoff had 2 out of 5 best series from 00 (GL and JSA) - only things comparable was Ellis Thunderbolts, Avengers Initiative and Simene's Secret Six.
Damn anon that's some good taste you got there.
Your taste is utter shit, anon. Opinion discarded.
Tell me you don't like quality stories without outwardly telling that.
Nothing else in the entire decade came even close to those series.
Your taste is utter shit, anon. Opinion discarded.
neckbeard alert
SameBITCH
you should have kept that to yourself now everyone knows to ignore your moronic opinions since you exposed your shit taste
Found Geoffrey the Giraffe's burner
For me, it's Alan Moore's ABC.
what are these comics? I recognize top 10 and promethea
Promethea
Tom Strong
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Tomorrow Stories
Top Ten
Geoff Johns is like fast food, it might look appetizing but it gives you the shits
Why shitpost like this? I hate cereal lord and yet this is still absolutely one of the best runs in DC history.
Probably the single best run of Green Lantern ever, and OP has to be a wiener sucking homosexual as always. Some things never change.
Characters behave unusually.
Stuff is inorganic to prop characters up.
And the art makes the comic seem better than it is. Good detail work, fricked dynamics.
The bar was really low back then, so it seemed stellar.
>Characters behave unusually.
The stuff with batman was so fricking awful. It literally just ends with Hal punching Bats and then bat's like "you know what... you're right"
Nah, they are great is a great storyarc.
Do I just start reading this run, or do I read Emerald Twilight before?
Ideally, Emerald Twilight, Zero Hour, Final Night, and Day of Judgement are the reading orders for prep time.
oh boy you are in a wild ride if you had never read green lantern books. THEY ARE SUPERB.
God, there's a lot of mediocrity in there. Rebirth through Blackest Night is fine, with some of it bordering on great, but outside of that, it's entirely skippable.
Yeah, that was peak green lantern when it was toe with toe against Morrison Batman and Bendis New Avengers.
>Morrison Batman and Bendis New Avengers
These aren't good.
Why expose your shit taste like this
Says the guy defending a mediocre run and a shit run.
You think those are good? Fricking why?
I’m so sick of you homosexuals doing this. Morrison’s Batman up until final crisis is one of the best DC runs ever, easily the best run on the main bat book, and B&R is spectacular as well.
The whole Dr Hurt/Prof Pyg bullshit was mediocre at best and way too long.
Frickin Jim Lee's Bats was better.
90s Batman stomps 00s bullshit made after they introduced Damian Wayne.
You clearly haven’t read any Batman and are just parroting things you’ve heard mixed with Wikipedia searched non-sense.
Son, Morrigay toom a cute concept if a probable Bat demon and turned it i to some bullshit in his run.
People thinking his Batman run is more than mediocre are deluding themselves. Dark Knight Dark City in 70 pages makes a better story than his slop
>ESL
>schizobabble
Not even three words in, opinion discarded.
>Frickin Jim Lee's Bats was better.
Jim Lee didn't write any Batman. You mean Hush?(which was in the 2000s)
Batman Year One is the best batman run ever, stop trying to rock the boat newbie.
hello casual
It's a fact, casualness has nothing to do with it. Nothing Morrison has written is remotely as compelling as Miller's Year One.
alright casual
Yea, we get it, you really like rainbow costume batman, but there are other things besides being a homosexual that makes a comic good.
>no argument
>says the man with no argument
>as he samegays
>as he buzzwords
Damn, did I upset you?
Only one (You) on my screen, moron. Did you mistake me for the anon you were arguing with previously?
>still no argument
Just have a nice day.
>K-K-KILL URSEFF
Stay malding and basing your existence on a corporate product, you fricking loser, lmao.
>buzzwordbuzzwordbuzzword
You have no power here. have a nice day, homosexual.
>You have no power here.
Likewise. Stay malding upset.
>incoherent buzzwords
holy casual
I haven't read much batman so I can't support your claim, but geez it was good
>Morrison’s Batman up until final crisis is one of the best DC runs ever,
>easily the best run on the main bat book
100% guaranteed it was your first Batman comic, which is why you think something this moronic.
>sperging at random anons
>still no argument
have a nice day, queerlord.
Nah my first bat comics were random Dixon issues I used to snag from my LCS when I was in short pants. Cute projection though.
Year one isn’t a run, moron. It’s a 4 issue stint.
I mean it in popularity terms in 2005-2009 era.
You can literally stop with Wrath of the First Lantern. Why would anyone read Venditti’s run after it cut back on what everyone loved about Geoff’s run?
It's funny, I consider myself a GL fan (moderate, not causal or exceedingly extreme), but I only recently read John's run
I grew up reading Silver and late Bronze (really don't care for GL/GA), mostly through hand-me-downs from my mom. Silver Age GL is kinda batshit, but in a good way, and has decent science fiction stories when they want to. I think my favorite issue is when Hal accidently turns Thomas into a seagull in his sleep
It's because Garner Fox and John Broome's Hal is, while not a total loser,wasn't completely a normal, put together adult.
I've seen Silver Age Hal compared to a Dharma Bum- someone who takes life as it comes and tries to find his way in the balance, sure he wore a suit and had a regular job, but he had more troubles over his personal life and trying to figure things out.
Johns has a tendency to write character personalities not based on actual prior continuity or runs, but based on how he feels they should be written
Because the idea of GL/GA paints Hal as the straight shooter, conservative type(I wouldn't say it's that clear cut but still), he has Hal as the stern dad Green Lantern, the Legendary best GL. He's that archetype
It's like how people love to say "The marvel heroes are regular people but the DC heroes are GODS"- then if you actually read comics from the Silver Age the DC heroes are all going on fishing trips that get interrupted by aliens or trying to get lunch with their love interest. Johns likes to buy into the "gods" angle.
>Because the idea of GL/GA paints Hal as the straight shooter, conservative type(I wouldn't say it's that clear cut but still), he has Hal as the stern dad Green Lantern, the Legendary best GL.
It’s more that he wrote Hal as someone who finally got his shit together. From GA/GL onward Hal was a mess of a person. Rebirth put an end to that by having Hal put the universe in focus rather than Earth.
Nice headcannon.
Meanwhile, every Hal Jordan return story is him hitting up Carol again, either for a job or pussy. Same ol'.
Nah, compare Hal in the 2000s and Hal of the 80s/90s, they’re worlds apart. Hal of the 2000s actually made something of himself.
It's not that they're not different, it's just that schizo rationale that's off.
And all that after the tease of Cowgirl being the new love interest.
Has Cowgirl ever appeared after New52/Flashpoint retcon?
She had a couple panels in Morrison's The Green Lantern. He touched on just about every Hal love interest.
Geoff Johns is bad. I thought this had been established.
>geoff johns
was a mistake
He even memoryholed Hal's niece from the Spectre just because she wouldn't fit his new narrative.
Hal as Spectre was DC’s halfassed attempt to placate fans after they character assassinated him.
>after they character assassinated him.
You mean made him interesting for the first and only time in his history?
It was so interesting everyone immediately forgot about it the minute Hal returned.
DC didn’t know if they wanted a tortured antihero or a snarling villain. Parallax wasn’t good until Rebirth.
Parallax wasn't good, ever.
Rebirth was the jumping on point for a whole lot of people so I understand there's a ton of nostalgia surrounding that title, but Parallax is a power ranger MOTW tier of villain.
Nah, it was pretty cathartic seeing Hal beat the shit out of the Justice League and being taken seriously for once.
Parallax only made Hal "interesting" in that way that when a comic company fricks up and doubles down on the frick up rather than playing shit straight rather than doing something fricked up just to break a toy out of spite and malice because they underestimated how many people liked said toy.
Parallax would have only worked if they had never done Kyle Rayner and just continued the story of Hal Jordan, anti-hero after GL #51. Basically make him an anti-hero who goes around kicking ass/taking names ala the Authority and have the JLA (and Batman in particular) be forced to eat shit and forgive Hal for slaughtering the GLC and let him stay active on Earth. Going so far as to let him lead the JLA after Zero Hour and Morrison being made to make Batman have to repeatedly portrayed as incompetent and depending on Hal to rescue him in every fight.
>when a comic company fricks up and doubles down on the frick up rather than playing shit straight rather than doing something fricked up just to break a toy out of spite and malice because they underestimated how many people liked said toy.
Classic DC moment.
>Basically make him an anti-hero who goes around kicking ass/taking names ala the Authority and have the JLA (and Batman in particular) be forced to eat shit and forgive Hal for slaughtering the GLC and let him stay active on Earth.
How do you forgive him for killing Kilowog?
Kilowog's ghost comes back and partners up with Guy Gardner.
>Parallax would have only worked if they had never done Kyle Rayner and just continued the story of Hal Jordan, anti-hero after GL #51. Basically make him an anti-hero who goes around kicking ass/taking names ala the Authority and have the JLA (and Batman in particular) be forced to eat shit and forgive Hal for slaughtering the GLC and let him stay active on Earth. Going so far as to let him lead the JLA after Zero Hour and Morrison being made to make Batman have to repeatedly portrayed as incompetent and depending on Hal to rescue him in every fight.
good thing you're not a writer
When there's a threat, all other characters should mention how Hal is the best equipped to deal with this situation
Women, especially love interests of other heroes, should comment on Hal's rugged, attractive looks and sexual prowess.
When Hal is not around, the other characters should ask "Where is Hal?"
parallax's origins was admittedly an asspull, but not only it paid off and expanded the lore a lot, hal's grave was so deep that they had to come up with some bullshit to start over
It’s funny how Green Lantern had to stick with the ramifications of ET for a decade and actually made something out of it. Makes Superman and Batman’s event look toothless by comparison.
Would anti-hero/outright evil Hal have worked and stuck had Emerald Twilight been allowed the space to build up to Hal's fall as a long term arc, instead of having to force a major heel-turn within just 3 issues?
Yes, but the editors were impatient and just wanted the quick cash that would come with an event like ET.
>Parallax would have only worked if they had never done Kyle Rayner and just continued the story of Hal Jordan, anti-hero after GL #51.
Kyle Rayner run went from being about Kyle training to be about Hal being a better lantern than he ever was.
The time travel arc for example where 2 Hal Jordans were there and both were an argument on Hal life
Man it’s almost like robbing Kyle of the GLC was a mistake.
Starting Kyle off with no GLC was fine, he just should've had a GLC after a few years though.
>he just should've had a GLC after a few years though.
You could tell the editors were sick of telling the readers to let go of the GLC. I feel like if he did get a new GLC, it would have been a retread of the 80s era of GL where they all live together on a base.
Johns made Hal interesting and didn't have to make him go crazy and kill everyone so Kyle could be the chosen one.
I think one of the things that I disliked about Johns' run (from what little I've read), is that he kind of put Kyle in time out, rather made him take a backseat to Hal. I haven't read much of Kyle (a lot of the early stuff is a tough slog), but it seemed disingenuous to the legacy of the title of Green Lantern. Same with putting Barry over Wally
kyle had GLC with guy and was central to sinestro corps war thoughever
Kyle was brought over to the GLC which is what he desperately needed since 1994.
Kyle got a lot of usage. He got god powers twice. Johns may not have given him first child treatment like he did with Hal but Kyle wasn't in limbo during that time.
Johns writes everything like that at expense of anything post-silver age. Sometimes its good, often its not.
Geoff Johns is the most On/Off writer I've ever read. When he's on (Flashpoint, N52 Aquaman, a portion of his GL run) he's ON but when he's off his writing is unbearable.
it was pretty moronic tbqh
batman was way out of character, literally at hal's funeral he had forgiven him and then he's just a complete arsehole about him, john stewart basically acting as hal's cheerleader was so so stupid, and of course yellow alien bug being on par power-level wise with the literal wrath of god
that said, hal is the best green lantern, getting guy back to the gl corps was great, and yellow space bug >>>>>>>> murdering your friends for no reason
Johns's run is the ONLY Green Lantern run worth reading. You are just a homosexual with shit taste.
>Hi, my name is Denny O'Neil and I am responsible for turning Hal into a boring, undecisive tool for thirty years so that my self-insert Green Arrow would get over with the marks.
To be fair, as much as I hate his characterization of Hal as a complete tool, I love his interpretation of Ollie
Same, I'll take Denny O'Neil's Ollie over Mike Grell's.
IDK man, I do love Longbow Hunters. Planning on getting that DC Finest Collection the moment it drops next year
I get what people like about it, but it feels like some boomer's self-insert fantasy down to getting raped by an Asian woman who defiminates his love interest.
The two Grell omnibuses are still around as well, if you look in the right places
Eh, Hal recovered.
Keeping Batman down as a street-level moron beating up the mentally ill in a city he controls is his real crime.
Lest we also forget his insistence to make Moon Knight Marvel's equivalent to Batman and basically cheating the character out of having any real potential for years. IDK Early Moon Knight is just the biggest waste of ideas. I mean why would you re-vamp a character's backstory by having him become the avatar for a moon god and not have any real supernatural shit?
>Eh, Hal recovered.
AFTER THIRTY YEARS.
He was fine in Engelhart and Priest's runs. Only Giffen and Jones had to dredge up 70's shit and 'deal with it'.
>He was fine in Engelhart and Priest's runs.
Engelhart is such a weirdo, he made Hal look like a child molester.
Yeah, and he also wrote whatever the frick Millennium was.
>Engelhart is such a weirdo, he made Hal look like a child molester.
Considering that Jones became one and wrote fricking Prime for the Ultraverse, he makes Englehart look sane by comparison
Engelhart wrote that run like he looked at the sexual escapades and drama of X-Men and New Teen Titans and slapped that shit on Green Lantern.
>He was fine in Engelhart
No he wasn't, Engelhart sucked and made Hal into a wierdo while also undoing literally all the progress all the way back to Wolfman so his waifu Arisa could be Hals #1.
Denny, the guy who made Batman fight crime internationally and made his archenemy an immortal?
Yeah, Denny. The editor that refused to allow anyone else to do that.
Green Arrow is an ati facist libtard who hates authority including Batman/
He was never over with the fans.
Dennis' Hal really wasn't that much more of a mess than he was when Fox and Broome wrote him.
Also FWIW Neal Adams guided the writing for most of that book.
It's a cheap replica of a bad writer's childhood memories.
It's called 'talentless hack writing'. Johns is a hack, what you are reading are cardboard cutouts he thought the audience might like to see and clap at, nothing more.
I only read DC comics for Green Lantern's escapades.
I know what you mean. Everyone talks really weird in mid-2000s books. I guess it's a byproduct of all the writers being in their late 30s.
The stars have aligned and the universe ahs spoken. This shit is GAY.
I love how this chud never fails to make people seethe by existing.
glad darwyn cooke got him some respect back
Do you think Johns could summon a whole bunch of fans if he wrote a comic that was nothing but Hal on the toilet trying to take a dump, while wearing the leather jacket?
Morrison run is underrated. And Venditti runs beside some controversial takes it had nice ideas but not so weel executed.
As one of the anons seething about the disrespect for his Batman run above, Morrison’s TGL was serviceable for the first “season”. The black stars mini was as well. But “season” two was unreadable, unconscionable horse shit.
>Morrison run is underrated.
It's not underrated, is that no one can tell what was it about. No one understood what the Ultrawar was about and not even Death Battle forums can even if they understood as it meant Hal wad powerful.
What happened here?
autism
It's because they are blessed
Boomer comics are the best