Greetings from the Hollywood Hills, Cinemaphile, here's the latest scoop:
"The Movie Critic" was scrapped as Tarantino's 10th and final film for these reasons:
>The script grew so large that Tarantino proposed releasing it in 3 or 4 "volumes" to Sony. Yes, his 10th and final film was poised to span 3 or 4 movies, with Tarantino insisting they should be seen as a single work (much like Kill Bill Vols. 1 and 2). The execs balked.
>The script ballooned as Tarantino drastically strayed from his initial concept ("a Travis Bickle-type assassinates a Movie Brat director in 1977 to prevent the 80s blockbuster wave from killing the 70s New Hollywood"). Guess who this director was.
>It evolved into a saga centered around his fictional Hollywood timeline introduced in Once Upon a Time In Hollywood, with Brad Pitt's Cliff Booth as the protagonist of a "chapter" in which he's become a famed director.
>Using the Movie Critic's reviews as a constant narrative device, Tarantino planned to shoot entire films within this alternate reality, including Cliff Booth's "The Fireman" (starring Leo DiCaprio as Rick Dalton, a fictional 80s Die Hard where Dalton capitalizes on his flamethrower gimmick) and alternative endings to real films like John Flynn's "Rolling Thunder."
>Discussions about adapting it into a mini-series are ongoing. The idea isn't popular.
That sounds dope
>("a Travis Bickle-type assassinates a Movie Brat director in 1977 to prevent the 80s blockbuster wave from killing the 70s New Hollywood"). Guess who this director was.
Seems a bit unfair to George
Wasn't it high-budget (for the time) flops right as the 80s began like Heaven's Gate what made Hollywood balk and go commercial? I could see Star Wars being a part of the problem, but it's crazy to say that some guy making a successful movie franchise ruined everything.
Or maybe I'm overthinking Tarantino's napkin notes turned into a plot
Yeah Spielberg was also part of the wave that turned cinema into blockbuster seeking leeches. Not that I hate the man, but George being labeled the sole catalyst is unfair.
Jaws was a bigger problem. Star Wars just lead to the boom of Sci Fi shlock. Like Halloween lead to all the horror rip offs (but still cheap to make, so not a bad thing but the sequilitis killed Cinema more than anything else IMHO)
It's funny because Tarantino raves about Jaws and calls it a perfect "movie" (as opposed to film). Star Wars is actually somewhat close to how Tarantino makes movies, steal from a bunch of a different sources, mix it all up, and voila, create a new product.
exactly, especially because George would do shit like help bring Kurosawa back to resurgence with that 1980 movie Kagemusha and he produced Mishima a life in 4 chapters, plus Lucas was involved heavily with American Zoetrope
it was the collapse of united artists really
>Guess who this director was.
I assumed it was talking about Spielberg.
I was thinking Spielberg as well. Jaws is usually cited as being the 1st block buster.
Spielberg is a israelite
Lucas is not, so he's a safe killing for him mindset
>Guess who this director was.
Tarantino really has this level of smoke for George Lucas? When I think of it, I've never heard him discuss Star Wars, Star Trek yes, but not wars
Didn’t like the prequels but admits to enjoying the original
Yes, Tarantino HATES what Lucas became after American Graffitti and particularly hates the prequels:
I've heard Tarantino say THX is shit, that Lucas parasited the careers of many promising Californian directors by enslaving them under ILM. Also, one of his closest collaborators and friends in the industry is John Dykstra, who Lucas used for the world-changing FX in the original Star Wars and then fired ending on bad terms
Why is uno farto always doing commentaries with Edgar? He's also in the Hot Fuzz one
Good friends.
Thx homosexuals make me sick. >>>>>>Oh yeah look at the quality of our sound.<<<<<<homosexuals like Dennis or Nolan obsessed with how a movie should be heard instead of focusing on more important aspects of cinema. They use music to hide their weaknesses as storytellers.
The only thing unrealistic about this OP is that the producers would walk. A Tarantino saga like this would have money thrown at it, especially with the added factor of it being his last movie(s). Tarantino is also pretentious enough to want to do this
This sounds like ass. Has Quentin lost his touch?
Yea, ya think? Basing a movie and chapters around his already out of touch reality of that boring ass derivative movie. Thank god those movie execs shut this crap down. QT should just stop. We really dont need another film from him.
it's sad that he's trying to do all this weird shit instead of just making a nice popcorn flick
like django, hateful eight, inglorious basterds, none of them were amazing, but they were decent enough to go to the cinema for
that's all i'm asking
Yeah, literally. The touch was named Sally Menke.
>My last film will be 4 films but in one so technically it's just one film
he even pilpuls like israelites now
>My last film will be 4 films but in one so technically it's just one film
By that logic the kill bills are just one film too, so he actually has 2 left.
So he's just about as inconsistent as them too. Figures.
> By that logic the kill bills are just one film too, so he actually has 2 left
1. Reservoir Dogs
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Jackie Brown
4. Kill Bill Part 1 and 2
5. Death Proof
6. Inglourious Basterds
7. Django Unchained
8. The Hateful Eight
9. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Idk this guy has one decent movie and 8 goy slops but everyone raves about him. Not for me I guess.
>filming alternative endings to already existing films
cool idea if they look the same, camera work, lighting, filters, actors very very simular, etc
only 'tino could do this and maybe Spielberg
Scorsese was the movie brat director who wanted to kill a movie exec, not a critic who goes after a brat director. I see what you're getting at though, probably did inspire it.
That’s not a rumour, it’s a fact.
And killing Scorsese, who never became a blockbuster director, wouldn’t change the direction of Hollywood.
1977 was the year Star Wars was released.
Though blockbusters really began earlier in the 70s, with Jaws.
jaws is such a bad movie
it actually blew me away how bad it was when i watched it and every time i bring this up to jaw-lovers they refuse to engage and give any arguments for why they like it and the few who do have arguments all pull only from history
>UHHH, IT MADE BILLIONS?
ok?... why is it a good movie?
Most smoothbrain post in Cinemaphile history.
>no arguments
yeah i'm used to it, keeping believing it was a good movie like an npc when you can't even defend it
then explain why it’s a bad movie. I’m curious what half-wit drivel you’ll come up with
You're the one making the claim, anon. Explain what makes Jaws bad. I haven't given my opinion on the movie that you know of, maybe I agree with you.
I can see how the idea of a counter-culture lone wolf killing the movie director wasn't well received by the execs either, no matter how badly they hate that particular director
anyway, why does Tarantulo always resort to killing as the only solution for his alternative timeline schtick? Couldn't this movie critic guy just convince Lucas or Spielberg or Scorsese or whomever to abandon the "commercial route" and do a different film instead? Or something clever, sheesh
hacks like Tarantino have run out of movies to copy and are resorting to film revisionism
That story is too fricking wild to be real, then again, Scorsese was coked out of his mind during the 70's. The only reason he's not dead is because Deniro convinced him to drop his hedonistic ways and make Raging Bull.
>Scorsese was coked out of his mind during the 70's
read easy riders, raging bulls if you haven't. in the chapter eve of desctruction, it goes into the crazy shit Scorsese was up to during those mid 70s years.
tldr?
This all sounds pretty cool, not gonna lie.Definetely a project he hould tinker for the rest of his career.
So a bloated sequel to OUATIH?? Sounds lame.
I bet he's going with Kill Bill vol. 3 now
This actually sounds really good. He should take it to Netflix, they love this shit. 4 two hour episodes is normal shit for them.
> Here you go Jorge
It sounds Kino and I understand why the concept scares Hollywood executives.
It sounds really lame and unnecessarily mean. Plus it would break what's left of poor George's heart. The OT are great sci-fi fantasy movies, much better than anything Taranfarto has ever made, and they are full of meaning and soul, something that QT has never truly achieved (got close, maybe by accident, in some parts of Jackie Brown and Once Upon a Time)
I agree with what George Lucas has contributed to cinema in general with his original trilogy.The problem is now that Hollywood only makes franchises with the costumes, constantly modifying them.
Netflix should produce this. They literally do worse things all the time.
https://www.themarysue.com/netflixs-fool-me-once-is-some-of-the-worst-tv-ive-ever-watched/
This sounds insane. I want it to exist, whether it succeeds or ends up an enormous embarrassment is no skin off my nose.
Kill Bill is two movies whether he likes it or not, two different genres
>a movie has never been split into two different genres before
Vol 1 has a beginning, middle and end. So does Vol 2
Volume 1 doesn’t have an end. It finishes, but it’s a cliffhanger. Volume 2 doesn’t really have a beginning, it just picks up where volume 1 left off
I watched both recently and I disagree
Not gonna lie, this sounds like it would be the best movie ever made
sounds incredible, they should have let him cook
that sounds tedious and super self-indulgent, much like most of tarantino’s work, so that’s how I know it’s real
sounds like the gayest, most self-indulgent shit imaginable
These stories are really common with Tarantino. The guy is a lunatic who can't make anything without a tardwrangler. I remember when he said he'd make a movie that connects Michael Madsen's character from Reservoir Dogs to John Travolta's character from Pulp Fiction because they're both named Vega. Then he said he was gonna make Kill Bill vol 3 where the black girl grows up and gets revenge for her mom, by filming some of the scenes while she's little, then waiting 20 years to film the rest of the movie with her as an adult. I've been waiting 20 years just for a proper release of Kill Bill The Whole Bloody Affair that only screened two times in theaters and meanwhile Tarantino completely forgot about vol 3.
Don’t know if true, but I heard the original plan for Pulp Fiction was to have Michael Madsen reprise his Reservoir Dogs character, and after scheduling conflicts he cast Travolta and changed the characters first name
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Tarantino%27s_unrealized_projects
Me personally? I really wanted him to expand on the OUATIH universe. He wrote the novelization but I really wanted to see those shows he was planning on making too.
A film about silver surfer written and directed by Tarantino
It sounds Kino but the Star War homosexuals wouldn't tolerate it
star wars homosexuals don’t watch real movies
Exact.
Internet critics are mostly comic book or Star War nerds who started reviewing capeshit movies because Hollywood was producing them.It's sad to see them try to argue a criticism of any movie.Some of them resort to the woke anger trick
>("a Travis Bickle-type assassinates a Movie Brat director in 1977 to prevent the 80s blockbuster wave from killing the 70s New Hollywood"). Guess who this director was.
WOULD
The 80s saved hollywood. Tarantino is a no-talent hack with bad taste.
>midwit thinks a character holding an opinion means the director also holds that opinion
do you also think jd salinger thinks everyone's a phony?
There is something uncannny about a baby-sized person acting like a grown adult.
>Tarantino planned to shoot entire films within this alternate reality, including Cliff Booth's "The Fireman" (starring Leo DiCaprio as Rick Dalton, a fictional 80s Die Hard where Dalton capitalizes on his flamethrower gimmick) and alternative endings to real films like John Flynn's "Rolling Thunder."
holy fricking kino just let this man make what he wants please
What would be the alternative ending for rolling Thunder?
I'm guessing one where the Tommy Lee Jones character doesn't die or maybe an alternate ending where they both die all guns blazing similar to Butch Cassidy and Sundance
get it down to 100 minutes and then I’ll be hyped
>>The script ballooned as Tarantino drastically strayed from his initial concept ("a Travis Bickle-type assassinates a Movie Brat director in 1977 to prevent the 80s blockbuster wave from killing the 70s New Hollywood"). Guess who this director was.
James Cameron?
Cameron wouldn't make anything until five years past that, bozo.
sounds like hot garbage
Embarassing. Another self-conscious film about hollywood and its mythology of itself by another director who is more concerned about his legacy than making good cinema.
Dude's deranged and all his movies are vulgar trash.
>pitch a movie about preventing the wave of slop to the people making the slop
>The idea isn't popular.
I'm shocked. SHOCKED I TELL YOU!
Maybe it had something to do with it being a 4 volume drama about critics and directors. They would easily have greenlit any QT fil if it was just one movie
You really think any studio would agree to produce a movie that, thinly veiled, shits on the very concept all of pg-13 blockbuster slop?
The way i understand it, QTs "travis" self insert would be a movie buff growing more and more dissatisfied and resentful with movie trends, pretty much Star Wars(since it's 77), and he would be very smart and witty at expressing his anger, which spirals into bloody but righteous murder. It's all tongue in cheek of course but the message would be clear. And in the background you got a B or C plot about some country girl trying to make it as an actress, a hooker and her pimp doing stuff and some of his OUATIH characters in returning roles.
This sounds kino. It's a shame we'll never see it.
I'm surprised someone like Tarantino still has to please the execs. I'd think with his track record they'd just let him do whatever the frick he wants.
Guess he must've pissed off a couple of people.
Quentin's biggest champion in hollywood was Harvey, so basically he lost his rabbi
Time to get the band back together.
3-4 volumes is fricking nuts for something so niche, no matter who the director is. You can pull that shit with popcornslop spectacle like Abatap or Lord of the Rings, not QT's tribute-albums-in-movie-form.
My prediction is 'the movie critic' as a concept ISN'T scrapped but is instead being folded into something else.
He'll do Kill Bill vol. 3 but it'll go full meta, reveal that vol 1&2 were banned movies set within OUATIH's alt timeline and have 'Bill' as the aspiring Hollywood director to be killed by psycho underground movie rental store junkie Uma Thurman teaming up with loads of washed up character actors and characters in cameos/bit-parts (Sam Jackson, cliff, Tim Roth, travolta, waltz, etc) from previous movies who hate the direction of new Hollywood.
Big huge reveal is the director is Tarantino himself. But death isn't enough - he needs to be a warning ending is he gets publicly humiliated by Uma live at the oscars with his filthy foot fetish collection to the tune of stuck in the middle with you
>IS THIS THE MOVIE CRITIC OR HAS THIS TURNED INTO NIGHT ALL OF A SUDDahhhhh
>Hollywood multiverse
Even Tarrantino is not safe from capeshit
once upon a time in hollywood is trashola
have a nice day.