Chapter 93: Page 31
She is Omega
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Chapter 93: Page 31
She is Omega
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How does she know Zimmy? Are they good friends? Why would Kat kill her?
I figured that was the cliffhanger, but I'm still curious how they're gonna present this without having annie's dad come off as a shit bag? Yeah, maybe to him he's been working on a regular machine not knowing the form it's taking in the ether?
I can't imagine after everything they reveal he's been torturing a living being.
It's ok, he's autistic and he keeps a picture of his dead wife in his lab so technically he's having to deal with 2 people whenever he's around Omega.
>Living being
Uhhh...
She's quite clearly dead, mate. They stuffed her skeleton full of random mechanical parts.
You're just a skeleton stuffed with random meat parts, jerk
I wasn't being mean to her, I'm just saying she doesn't have a brain.
Yes, yes. We know Annie is not smart, but we are talking about Omega now. Focus, anon!
Unless?
He's on life support.
Stuffing a camshaft and car radio into you chest isn't life support.
The mechanicus works in mysterious ways.
Why are all of my favorite franchises turning into warhammer? Not that I'm complaining, it's a cool aesthetic, even though I know pretty much nothing about warhammer.
Cool music tho.
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Well, 40K is already a hodgepodge of every sci-fi franchise ever made, and it wasn't intended to be serious at first.
So when did the current serious, lore-rich aesthetic establish itself and where did it come from?
It was fairly early on, it came from gee dubya themselves. They wrote such ridiculously dystopian stories they started believing them.
Ah, like how the ether works! It's all come full circle!
But seriously, this has always bugged me. Did they really invent the entire aesthetic? That's some seriously creative stuff! Who is the artist mainly responsible for it and why aren't they hugely successful in the mainstream like someone like Clive Barker or HR Giger?
I still don't know what Clive Barker has done except for Clive Barker's Clive Barker's "Jericho" by Clive Barker.
I don't even remember where that joke was from, damn.
>I don't even remember where that joke was from, damn.
Zero Punctuation's review of the game of the same name
It was born out of the kind of British Punk art of the 80s, similar to what you'd find in 2000AD and the like. Though credit should be given to GW for developing it from those roots.
It's still half parody half autistically detailed world building but people who never played it and love larping with the aesthetic don't know about the former
You should know by now that Tony can do anything and not only never face any consequences for it but the characters in the comic will also directly turn to you and explain how he did nothing wrong.
Autists sure get mad about misrepresentation.
I don't think I've ever actually seen someone get mad about tony being bad representation or whatever
you are too terrible a person for your dad to love you
Tom get off Cinemaphile and write the comic gooder
>I figured that was the cliffhanger
Suure you did anon, sure you did.
obviously.
>I'm the perfect physics simulator that knows how everything will happen before it happens
>That's why I was consistently surprised and confused
Keep in mind Annie is somehow her kryptonite.
Yes, her and her unfathomable and unpredictable desire to...help her friends?
I said SOMEHOW!
Maybe Omega just can't fathom how stupid Annie is.
Though I figure the court is just moronic and it has nothing to do with Annie. She has no special significance other than being Kat and Coyote's friend.
Annie caused the first dead numan by being there.
I thought the whole point was that she was fated to die at the Annan Waters, and everything that happened after Kat saved her has thrown off the predictions
Well, how does that make sense if Omega is there to witness things herself?
I believe that theory was made when the best assumption we had was that Omega is calculating a universe-spanning physics engine and Annie being alive is an error in the calculation that propagated over time, but since Omega has a consciousness and seems 100% etherical in nature, that whole theory is probably out of the window.
She could've been intangible and unconscious until the zimmy/loup/coyote merger, and now she's playing catch up
Sure, it just doesn't make much sense to me why Annie being alive would fluster an ether-based fortune teller. And why vicinity with Annie would worsen it. I'm just assuming it has to do with Coyote or Kat, probably Kat.
the ethereal is outside the scope. effects can be observed in meatspace. but being told that you missed it in the face pisses it off.
Is this some kind of warhammer reference, too?
I don't bother with WH so I wouldn't know
The only things I ever hear about Warhammer is how they are always ruining it, apparently.
Omega could've just been set to view the "proper" timeline, and now the changes that have happened due to Annie's survival just keep snowballing.
Think of this. The world is made of law and order. Annie being alive is chaos.
Omega is order. See the timeline as correct. Annie bring alive is Anonymally. It's a blind spot in the system. Whenever she cause or influence affect the order. Like loup's existence. Causing it to be unpredictable/unstable.
Basically Annie an glitch in the system of the court and everything she touches and influence mess things up. Unless the timeline is corrected by letting her die. Her continue influence will create a unknown future
I can't be bothered to go looking for the specific chapter, but someone explained Omega works by looking at the starting configuration of the universe and simulating it from there. Annie being alive goes against the simulation, so everything she touches gets varying amounts of unpredictable since she's not meant to exist at all after she fell from the bridge. Omega's surprise is because she has absolutely no idea what's happening when Annie is involved, and that probably annoys her.
Here's your perfect determinism machine, bros.
also the one thing they should prevent is omega acquiring abilities to alter reality and become able to produce its predictions without fail.
My deterministic predicting program can't be this cute!!
*SIGH* I guess she is not Louanna. And I really liked that name. Oh well.
So, how do we call her guys?
Zeta is Zimmy, Gamma is... Gamma. So Omega can be... Ommie?
Omini.
Meg.
You know what? I like it. Meg it is.
OMNIPITUS!
Look, I appretiate your enthusiasm but that is a really shitty name. Meg is way better.
>Maybe Omega just can't fathom how stupid Annie is.
I'm going with this. I mean, even *I* can't fathom how stupid Annie is.
Eh I don't like to handwave stuff like this, but they could be well outside the prediction envelope
That, also, yeah. Who knows what's even real anymore in the Zimmy bubble. Did Robot REALLY get turned into a crustacean worm dildo?
She's useless on Earth because of the ether. That's why the court's going to the new planet and that jazz.
My assumption right now is that she was some random girl from the past, probably before the court was founded who simply had perfect clairvoyant powers. Perhaps she's related to the Parley family. They turned her into a pickle a'la Jeanne, but unlike Jeanne they managed to somehow have absolute control over her, to use her as a future telling machine, except Zimmy is able to talk to her normally I guess? Because Zimmy. But Kat would kill her by freeing her from this situation and Zimmy doesn't want that because she's a selfish gremlin who doesn't wanna lose her friend.
If Coyote’s right, all they’d need to do is have someone *believe* that such a being existed, and then die. Bingo bango.
>My assumption right now is that she was some random girl from the past, probably before the court was founded who simply had perfect clairvoyant powers. Perhaps she's related to the Parley family. They turned her into a pickle a'la Jeanne, but unlike Jeanne they managed to somehow have absolute control over her, to use her as a future telling machine, except Zimmy is able to talk to her normally I guess? Because Zimmy. But Kat would kill her by freeing her from this situation and Zimmy doesn't want that because she's a selfish gremlin who doesn't wanna lose her friend.
I don't think it's a coincidence that Omega, Gamma, and Zeta are all Greek letters. There's a connection.
So Lana is still boxbot, right?
Haha wow. I've been reading this since 2005. What a fricking ride.
If she isn't, I riot.
And Lana?
When did they talk about that Omega stuff? I suppose it mustve been a zimmy chapter but I dont remember
It's been brought up multiple times, chapter 86 is where they revealed that Annie being alive is what broke it
In other words, Kat broke it, and Zimmy is terrified of Kat interacting with Omega. If Kat and Omega meet again, they could become a bigger threat than Loup, somehow.
HOLY SHIT
FINALLY SOMETHING IS HAPPENING
Weird definition of happening.
Stupid Annie, ruining everything!
soo
Lewds, when?
>skull has no canines
Is this supposed to be a joke about Coyote/Ysengrin/Loup, or is this not a human skull?
Or is it the incredibly likely and disappointing answer of "Tom's just moronic again"?
probably the latter. maybe he didn't want any weird implications by drawing canines though.
Looks like sloppy art making all the teeth look identical rather than a deliberate absence of canines. The molars don't look particularly distinct, either.
>People b***hing in the last thread about Tom not drawing anything dark or disturbing anymore
>Immediate next page is this
D-does Tom read these threads? Does Tom POST in these threads?
Tom makes all the "Annie is stupid and ruins everything!" posts
Can someone remind me wtf "Omega" is?
This is the problem with long-form, daily webcomics and getting older. I can't remember shit.
the device that predicts the future that kat threw a wrench into by saving annie with time bullshit
A means of predicting the exact location and time of when two snails will have intercourse in the jungles of south america.
OK WHAT?!
For real though, Tom actually surprised me today!
Could the comic maybe .. GASP... get better?!
No
Aww, why not?
>For real though, Tom actually surprised me today!
that's only because you didn't listen to me:
But didn't omega set up Annie being born? Why did it or the Court want that if Annie ends up fricking it all up?
surma had to die and rey had to leave the forrest. annie was just a side-effect.
Ah, so a plot to get Renard, fair enough
Annie had to be born so that she could die at the Annan waters, all in accordance with the determined timeline. Then Kat from a parallel timeline used the Norns to send a robot bird (an unaccounted for extra factor) into the past to save her (creating another unaccounted for extra factor). The robot bird started corrupting a small portion of the Forest which brought Coyote and Ysengrin to the Court when they otherwise wouldn't have, where Annie started interacting with them, which she otherwise wouldn't have (because she's supposed to be dead). Annie's existence in this timeline is directly responsible for turning a deterministic universe into an undeterministic one, effectively making the universe predicting Omega Device useless and ruining the Court's dream of controlling the seemingly chaotic, ether-fueled world.
Whilst reflecting upon this page and the comic in the shower it occurred to me just how incredibly unexciting it is. This is one of the longest running unsolved mysteries in the comic and it's just dumped on the audience like a pile of dirty laundry.
I watched the second season of Invincible recently and I was reminded just how exciting media can be when it's well paced and deliberately tensioned. It doesn't even have the benefit of making me wonder what will happen next since i've read the comic and remember the plot beats.
it is not exciting because it was too obvious who she is way too early.
I agree with the sentiment of this reveal being underwhelming but Invincible is hardly anything to write home about. Modern media is just so fricking shit that a show actually executing itself in an even passable manner blows people away now.
>This is one of the longest running unsolved mysteries in the comic and it's just dumped on the audience like a pile of dirty laundry.
No, it wasnt? I think this was an ok reveal.
How would you have done it in an exciting way?
No anon, just accept the guy who always b***hes about every single page as correct, he can do no wrong and it is you two who are in fact incorrect. All praise the b***hy whiner!
>How would you have done it in an exciting way?
Foremost by not botching the anticipation/foreshadowing. The only quality Omega exhibits that hints at her true nature was knowing where Robot was, which isn't even precognition necessarily. The warping was a red herring that doesn't seem to make any sense, even within the frickup rules of the distortion. IMO Omega should have had some demonstration of precognition prior to the reveal even if it was as passe as finishing someone's sentence, and had some kind of reaction to Annie (fear? interest?) because she was supposed to die falling over the bridge.
There should also have been some source of conflict or tension between Omega and Annie.
There's a fractional amount of this at the start of the chapter when Omega tries to escape from Annie but it's completely dissolved when Annie gets angry, past that point Omega becomes a passenger to Annie/Shadow/Robot's story. Maybe Omega has her own agenda, poses a threat or is seeking a different outcome, maybe Omega wants to help but can't due to some kind of authorisation/restriction imposed on her by the court.
I don't fricking know, i'm not a writer.
I mention it because it's current and Cinemaphile related, although I think you're underrating how well paced it is.
>This is one of the longest running unsolved mysteries in the comic
No it's not, this character has just gotten introduced. We knew what Omega was, but the possibility that it had a consciousness was never teased before this.
It was, when Zimmy first mentioned her. She was talking about her like a person then.
So was Omega an actual device that Kat accidentally turned into a real girl?
Omega developing a plan that leads to it gaining a body is just as likely.
She manipulated fate itself to look like THAT?
possible. might not even be all of it and just an ofshoot that can now mingle.
I want to mingle with Meg, if you know what I mean.
ANYWAY
Lets discuss the more important issue here. Is Meg's futa wiener bigger than Annie's??
Are her logical and deterministic boobs bigger?
Her wiener would seem normal at first and roughly equivalent to Annie's but have the potential to alter size to best fit the receiver's preferences, even preferences they didn't know they had. Her boobs would be precisely the correct size for her, which would be slightly bigger than Annie's just to mog Annie.
So is picrel what she actually looks like and zimzam is giving her a cute living body?
Well, there are two options.
a) She looks like a corpse and Zimmy gave her a cute perky girl body
b) She is a computer but the avatar she chooses is that of a cute girl, and Zimmy is distorting it into the mechanical corpse we see today.
Take your pick.
I figure she looks like nightmare corpse the same way that Kat looks like the Lady of Pain had a child with Michael Bay's Megatron.
We're seeing ether vision.
Been rereading some stuff, and a notable thing in early Gunnerkrigg is how the alchemy symbols keep showimg up in the background starting from the Reynardine chapter. The bismuth symbol is a prominent one which gets featured on a lot of court-related stuff later, but the second panel on this page is where it first shows up, when we also first meet these two characters.
I can't tell what the symbol Zimmy sees next to Kat is, though. The Greek text reads "dangerous insect" or something like it.
>I can't tell what the symbol Zimmy sees next to Kat is, though.
"zeta," right?
It's the lowercase form of zeta, ζ
Man, gotta admit, cool page.
Eh, it's all right. But you know what could make it cooler?
Annie's boobs.
True! Sucks that there's no good lewd artists for gunnerkrigg.
Bullshit. There's this Annie's boobs guy. He's pretty cool.
Ton of better pages and the comic is at a standstill but like I said, cool page.
It should start moving again. With Robot dealt with, pretty much everything except for the showdown with Coyote and the endgame with Zimmy, Loup, Omega, and Kat is wrapped up.
I was legitimately torn between using cute old robot art, cool mid robot art or bad early art with cool coyote.
I still have a small bit of Faith . At least it's still going.
I don't remember what omega was.