Gunnerkrigg Court

Chapter 94: Omega

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Having a chapter called Omega that isn't the last chapter of the comic
    That's forbidden!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Inb4 it's revealed that Annie's real name is not Antimony, but Alpha.
      >Alpha and Omega
      TOOOMM!!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But Annie was named after Surma's grandmother. She wanted her child to be named Antimony and Tony calls her Antimony, too, anon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And you think current Tom wouldn't do a rercon?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes? Obviously?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tom can do the funniest thing by bringing it all to a sudden end.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So that's it? Tom strikes again? Zaloupoyota ends up being another Plain Jane instead of almost /d/-tier local drawings?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We haven't seen Zimmy, Loup, Coyote or Lana yet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Zaloupoyota
      Is that some Black person deity?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gunnerblart mall cop

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Paul Blart is a much more competent protagonist than Annie.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    5$ on Omega wanting the same freedom the robots got because frick the court and their plots

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI anon here, since think I actually discovered something interesting about the comic itself from my messing around.

    I was looking to train a higher resolution Annie model using a technique that's worked on other webcomics, but every time I tried it always gave these ghastly results where the lines were all blurred and the colors smeared together. It was only happening with Gunnerkrigg Court too, so I investigated and when you zoom in on the comic panels they all have this odd smeared look that other webcomics don't have. Sort of like spreading a layer of Vaseline across them. Does anyone know what the cause of this is? Does Tom use some old resizing software to scale down his comic pages?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's an old comic and the pages were uploaded at a really low resolution and he never increased it. Back in the day, it wasn't very low res, but nowadays it's tiny. Coupled with the texture he puts on everything and what seems to be not even the highest quality jpeg compression, as you can see here, in comparison to a jpeg that was compiled at max quality, it tends to be pretty blurry. Nut sure what you mean by 'smear' Maybe provide an example?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, this one was intentionally scaled up to show it off but if you zoom in on this panel it has pretty much the same look. It looks like you're looking at the comic panels through a thin layer of film that's making the lines and colors sort of blend together. I know that there are some scans of the book releases and those look fine, but the comic pages universally have this issue and the LORA trainer can't seem to handle without giving really nightmarish results.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well, yeah, it's just low resolution and lossy compression. I don't think anything weird is going on with these jpgs though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I guess that's true, it's a damn shame though. My issue is just that it means there's basically no way to get a LORA with Annie's modern look until we get scans of books that are up to this point in the comic, which is a shame because other webcomic characters work fine with the new methods and look wayyyy better than the shit I was posting before.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hi AI anon! I miss your stuff. Are you gonna do more Gunnerkrigg AI pics?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I was going to until I ran into this issue with the training images, now I legitimately don't think it's possible to get decent quality ones at the moment. Maybe in another year or two they'll have worked out a way so that the trainers are able to negate jpg artefact issues. The results I got trying to train on my old data sets were downright unsettling.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Or I guess if high quality scans of the more recent books became available, but so far as I'm aware those aren't really a thing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Aww shucks

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know much about AI, but why would the compression mess with it that much?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Basically the training model iterates upon minor details to try and replicate something to the maximal degree. If every training image has jpg artifacts it'll try and work those into the model itself, and it results in some odd stuff.

            For comparison, here's an image I got from training on panels from Gunnerkrigg Court. Really shows the issues of expounding upon artefacts in the dataset, look at how weird and blurry everything looks. Now for another webcomic...

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              ...Ava's Demon, also trained on the comic panels. Identical prompt, identical settings. Outside of some minor general AI wonkiness it's a world of difference. For reference that was the singular best result I got out of the Annie model, on average they were much worse.

              [...]
              A few anons have uploaded scans of the print books, they're in much higher resolution than what gets uploaded to the site. That might work better for training

              Oh shit really? Is there a link to those?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                interesting would love to a model trained on the Cummoner webcomic.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The comic has a rather simple artstyle, maybe some preprocessing to trace lines and fill with flat colours could help?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You'd basically need a way to retrace and recolor every single sample image in order to do away with the jpg artefacts, otherwise they're just going to end up being hard-baked into the model regardless. Not sure if there's a program that can do that automatically and I'm not nearly enough of an artist to be able to go in and do that by hand.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              ...Ava's Demon, also trained on the comic panels. Identical prompt, identical settings. Outside of some minor general AI wonkiness it's a world of difference. For reference that was the singular best result I got out of the Annie model, on average they were much worse.

              [...]
              Oh shit really? Is there a link to those?

              >Same prompts
              Have you tried putting something like jpeg artifacts or compression artifacts or jpeg noise or whatever in the negative prompts?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it doesn't have any notable effect because the model itself doesn't read those as jpeg artefacts, it just sees them as part of the training. Even if you specifically tagged each image as "jpeg artefacts/noise/etc." on the images it'd be useless because all of the images have that, so it'd just read it as an activation tag for the prompt. It's a case where you really just need cleaner samples.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Probably because such noise is predictable, so the model learns that pattern as a part of the image

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          AI anon here, since think I actually discovered something interesting about the comic itself from my messing around.

          I was looking to train a higher resolution Annie model using a technique that's worked on other webcomics, but every time I tried it always gave these ghastly results where the lines were all blurred and the colors smeared together. It was only happening with Gunnerkrigg Court too, so I investigated and when you zoom in on the comic panels they all have this odd smeared look that other webcomics don't have. Sort of like spreading a layer of Vaseline across them. Does anyone know what the cause of this is? Does Tom use some old resizing software to scale down his comic pages?

          A few anons have uploaded scans of the print books, they're in much higher resolution than what gets uploaded to the site. That might work better for training

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >layer of Vaseline
      He applies a texture over each page before publishing on the web (downscaled) or in print. The originals are in high resolution but also with this texture. Some of his twitch streams demonstrate this process and occasionally show the pre-textured layers. I've got the early volumes in hires digital but the last HD was volume 5.

      ...Ava's Demon, also trained on the comic panels. Identical prompt, identical settings. Outside of some minor general AI wonkiness it's a world of difference. For reference that was the singular best result I got out of the Annie model, on average they were much worse.

      [...]
      Oh shit really? Is there a link to those?

      >link
      libgen

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think this would be an issue at the resolution you posted. Also I'm not finding it on libgen

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          libgen.gs search for gunnerkrigg, page 3 of listings; I see volumes 5 and 6 now also; but I bought 1 to 4 via humblebundle, picrel example.

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          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy based, thank you so much! This level of detail will definitely negate the issues with artefacts, it's a shame we can't quite get the modern style to work but hey, at least we can get a more classic look.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Actually I might just be a dum-dum but none of the download links seem to work? Even the torrents seem to be invalid.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Scratch that, figured it out and I am indeed a dum-dum.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have much experience training Loras but I know enough about stable diffusion that I highly doubt the subtle texture tom puts onto the page is going to appreciably impact the lora. Models are already trained on noisy data just fine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's actually a big problem when you're working with small images where the noise makes up a large part of the detail. Larger resolutions don't matter so much but samples from Gunnerkrigg's website will definitely be small for obvious reasons.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you search "Read Gunnerkrigg Court online" on google you can find several websites with scans up to book 5. They stop there for some reason though, even though we're up to book 8. It's the older style but much cleaner, and you should be able to get a pretty good Annie out of them if you start with book 3.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks anon, I'll give that a try. Currently training another LORA and I'll have to make a whole new dataset from scratch, so this thread might be dead by the time I have some results, but I'll post the results of this once it's all done.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Place your bets Cinemaphile. Do you think Tom will actually make Omega an interesting character? Or at least charming like Lana?
    Or will she be lame and boring?
    Tom is horrible with payoffs but he can still introduce cool characters... right?!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Omega will be very cool and fun!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Omega will be very bland and boring!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Omega will be a plot device and not much more.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly! And on top of that she is also (so far) boring looking and unappealing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nah she's cute, I would.
            The human form is kinda boring though.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Imagine what she can do with those eyesockets bro!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i mean it's already pretty interesting. like is omega some kinda skull with robot stuff going into it? what's that about, is it the opposite of the new humans, like the court turned a human brain into a cpu? this black-haired girl Omega could be a zimmingham illusion or coyote forgetting that he's not Omega or something

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Looking sort of like Zimmy shouldn’t be a coincidence. There is probably a connection between Omega, Zeta, and Gamma. Someone is a clone or a tulpa of someone else.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's probably just the remains of a person with very strong predictive abilities who is being kept alive through technomagic.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I installed an ai because I wanted to give it a shot.
    It tried. Pls don't bully.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no amputation
      Boooooo!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not bad, but obviously it has problems. the shitty AI image couldn't even replicate the hairband...

      • 1 month ago
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    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Kat being girly and enjoying it
      Blasphemy!

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Omega's cute eyesockets!

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    But can Omega see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

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