>zoomers have a really high rate of mental illness compared to previous generations
I fear the future generations
It's the previous generation's fault. 99.99% of any given generation's problems are the result of their prefecessors being incompetent frickwads.
People suck at society.
The rate of mental illness isn't higher, medicine and understanding of mental illness have just improved so the rate of diagnosis is higher. Older generations are just as mentally ill but they were too stupid to realize it and just beat their kids into resenting them.
Well, I don't see how making schizo posts about the current generation being doomed or legit seething at yurigays (which barely show up in these threads anyway) qualifies as laughing, but you do you.
Are they? I always hear of Gwitch bringing new fans but that seems to be true only with the alphabet community. Where's the evidence teenagers are into the show?
I remember the time the yurigays smugly hyped up a yuri ballroom dance in episode 7 >It didn't happen
Then they smugly hyped up a kiss in episode 20 believing in some "totally irrefutable" leak >It didn't happen
Then they smugly hyped up a great big yuri wedding in episode 24 >It didn't happen
And then, having deemed their udders now milked, BASEDai decided to gaslight the yurigays by whittling away the one "victory" of an offscreen wedding they had left. Honestly? I'd say they deserve it. For as much as they may scream and moan they already paid their money and will probably still pay more for the scant crumbs that get swept off the table into their domain.
Up to interpretation. They had a double (hetero) wedding and they're (platonically) embracing because they're so excited for each other that they found nice husbands.
Well, no fricking shit. But still, even with stuff like
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I have this
, KnM wasn't some obscure OVA release.
Other than the chinks, what would've been the commercial downside of having Suletta and Miorine officially as a romantic/married couple at the end? Ambiguity made sense ten years ago, but it just attracts bad blood on "SNS" nowadays. Or you don't think the Japanese aren't having these exact same discussions on Twitter?
Moving on, I'm kinda baffled that GSC is releasing a model kit of this thing. I know you people are reading this. That's why you're bankrolling Cinemaphile. Why don't you release an M6 Bushnell from FMP instead?
>KnM wasn't some obscure OVA release
No, but it is a niche anime with no mecha toys (at the time), next to no corpo exec supervision, and no pressure to sell it to China.
>with no mecha toys (at the time)
That's literally what moderoid is for, dumbass
They did granbelm, they did rayearth, but you're whining that they're doing kannazuki?
>we'll have this garbage stinking up the board
Only g-witch threads and really only if you want to talk about sulemioshipping and if you want to talk about shipping garbage you're better off going to the twitter colony circlejerk generap on Cinemaphile.
Because the only thing people talk about in G-witch is the shipping?
I mean what else are you gonna talk about?
It's not as if the show has anything substantial to talk about.
>Because the only thing people talk about in G-witch is the shipping?
If you're talking about the antis, yes, they can't stop yapping about muh woke and muh yurigays. Most of the serious threads here haven't been about shipping, but the antis will bring it up regardless, probably because they spend most of their time on shitholes like Cinemaphile or Twitter instead of /m/.
>I mean what else are you gonna talk about? >It's not as if the show has anything substantial to talk about.
The show didn't leave much to talk about, but you still see threads like that recent one about Shaddiq once in a while. As for actual shipping threads, I'd rather these morons ignore these (likely bait) threads and let them die instead of clogging them up with their garbage and moronation, it's not like they're gonna bring up anything of substance.
Not directly related to this thread but it seems like the most appropriate thread to ask. How much non-Gundam /m/ content is being sold at this Comiket? I found this in the Cinemaphile thread but haven't seen anything else.
If anything, KnM explicit "Lesbian Win" is the reason why it was(and still niche) title.
This is also why you see CDCGT show mostly never committed their girl into explicit relationship.
Its the same frustrasion that people who watch Harem and normal relationship anime had
>and they realized confirming a pair of lesbians as the lead characters in a show aimed at young boys wasn’t the smartest marketing idea.
See, that's where you are wrong, kiddo. Bandai aimed this shit at teenagers by their own admission, and that audience loves the homosexual shit nowadays. Why else you think Yuri On Ice became such a big hit?
The show that's actually aimed at young boys is the SD Gundam sub-franchise.
>If you stepped outside of your bubble for a moment you’d realize the majority of people on this planet don’t actually like homos
Then how/why Disney and the rest keep getting away with it, and become rich in the process? See, for instance, that Owl House garbage.
>Bandai aimed this shit at teenagers by their own admission, and that audience loves the homosexual shit nowadays. Why else you think Yuri On Ice became such a big hit?
Not exactly true. Yuri on Ice was aimed at adult women, not teens. You can see that from the kind of magazines that had articles on it (non-otaku mags aimed at adult women): >When it comes to the world of fashion and lifestyle magazines here in Japan, there’s possibly no name more revered than “Numero Tokyo,” a monthly-published glance into the world of high-fashion, as well as the strides it’s making across the nation. Within the pages of this magazine, you’ll find brand names such as Giorgio Armani, Valentino, Saint Laurent, and now, Yuri!!! on ICE. >https://www.otaquest.com/yuri-on-ice-numero/
>amerimutts are so desperate and obsessed with triggering libs that they'll screech about hot ass lesbians and side with the authoritarian CCP because they hate gay people >on top of that they're brainwashing themselves with revisionist delusions of IBO being good, the show about a bunch of gay shirtless buff kids crying and seething only to lose in the end anyway
lol
>side with the authoritarian CCP
The CCP had nothing to do with the marriage being canceled. It wasn't even airing in mainland China. Ya'll are the most authoritarian faction in politics dumbass. "Everyone has to participate in our delusion or face fines/jailtime/threats to their job".
>revisionist delusions of IBO being good
Just because you don't have any reading comprehension doesn't mean the rest of the us are similarly challenged. IBO was better than witch on every conceivable metric.
has it ever occured to you that people who don't like this kind of stuff may not be le American ebique conservative republitard but are motivated by other things that aren't just purely boomer tribalism? Your /leftypol/ is showing
Well, half side of yuri is simp mentality.
As they like and support the pairing because it made them felt happy or pleasant so see.
I guess you could put that into Escapism
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Well, half side of yuri is simp mentality.
As they like and support the pairing because it made them felt happy or pleasant so see.
I guess you could put that into Escapism
Didn't you post this on your y/u/ri nest on Cinemaphile already? I thought you WfM fans hates /m/echas and robots in general? Are you really that desperate for validation? Frick off with your dyke shit.
When you think about it Okouichi blew millions and nosedive one of Japan's biggest franchises just to animate his mediocre Utena fanfic, and on some level you can respect that. I'm looking forward to seeing how much Yaoi he will put into Grendizer
Bandai sure are cowards, but this meme is really funny. I will use it on and off for a some time, because it makes me smile. I'm sorry if it irritates you, dude, as you were robbed of your hot lesbian wedding, but it's just too funny.
I still hated WfM, but not because of main duo. Sucks to be fan of it.
Hating women is unironically the most coherent and sane thing a man can do, they're are uniformly awful pieces of shit and their inclusion in media that is suppose to entertain people is damaging and corrosive to society as a whole.
the rings were proof enough, all that bandai needed to do was NOT to enforce the editing of the interview and send that paper. i.e.: NOT take a side in the war.
Desu, Gwitch issues wasn't at all the gay shit. gay shit done right can be good.
It was how bland it was, and also how Suletta/Miorine had almost no synergy together, at times they were almost abusives, especially Miorine.
>pro-authoritarian >I'm left wing
Is this some kind of LARP or are there actually people this moronic posting here?
>side with the authoritarian CCP
The CCP had nothing to do with the marriage being canceled. It wasn't even airing in mainland China. Ya'll are the most authoritarian faction in politics dumbass. "Everyone has to participate in our delusion or face fines/jailtime/threats to their job".
>revisionist delusions of IBO being good
Just because you don't have any reading comprehension doesn't mean the rest of the us are similarly challenged. IBO was better than witch on every conceivable metric.
>"Everyone has to participate in our delusion or face fines/jailtime/threats to their job".
Just like pre-Elon Twitter and Reddit?
Compared to Kamille's nuanced slow recovery from his mind being shattered that's pretty shameful and pretty disturbing. First they time skip through any actual hardship Suletta might have faced from her "Sacrifice" and now they forgot it even happened. I guess the only reason WfM's writers included that in the first place was to make the show seem more mature than it actually is
Because Bandai are a multimillion dollar global corporation and they realized confirming a pair of lesbians as the lead characters in a show aimed at young boys wasn’t the smartest marketing idea. If you stepped outside of your bubble for a moment you’d realize the majority of people on this planet don’t actually like homos, especially ones in media aimed at their kids.
They have different series for different demographics.
The Build series is the young boys toy shilling series.
The Universal Century OVA/Movies are for the adult fans.
G-Witch was the yuri series.
Honestly it feels like Bandai and Sunrise are on completely different pages about the series. Sunrise made a series with te girls planning to be married, are seen wearing wedding rings, Miorine is referred to as sister in law by Eri, there is now semi-official* art of them in wedding dresses together, the Gundam info tweet about the final episode referred to them as being each other's wives, the voice actress referred to them as married in an interview that Bandai had censored after publicarion.
It kind of feels like Sunrise went ahead and made an actual full yuri series instead of a yuribaiting series behind Bandai's back, and now Bandai is trying to deny it.
*Semi Official because it was made by the Staff of the show, but I'm assuming not actually approved by the companies involved as it was sold at comiket. So, like that Godannar doujin made by it's staff to help finance the second season.
>It kind of feels like Sunrise went ahead and made an actual full yuri series instead of a yuribaiting series behind Bandai's back, and now Bandai is trying to deny it.
See, this is precisely what I mean by "cowardice". If you don't have the cojones to go all the way, why the frick would you bother to "bait" your audience?
The days when studios could have their cake and eat it too are over. Shit is different today, and by that I mean there's a disgusting place called Twitter, where the worst of this planet babbles all day long. I sincerely hope that Elon's sabotage campaign is successful.
>If you don't have the cojones to go all the way, why the frick would you bother to "bait" your audience?
Because yuribait is unironically what keeps yuri alive. If you're hinting at lesbians, never go all the way.
Bullshit. There are whole yuri magazines and manga that get anime. The only people who get upset about yuri getting confirmed are guys who shipped themselves with the girls. When I say that I'm not talking about western fans, I'm talking about people in the east. Western fans turn everything into politics while people in the east just want to see two characters get together.
Full yuri anime are mostly commercial failures and there are manga magazines for all sorts of niche in nipland.
If you want people to pay attention, bait as fair as you can go, if you want them to lose interest get the pair together.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Full yuri anime are mostly commercial failures
Proof?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The only way you can have a ship together and make the same bank as “will they won’t they” stories is if the pairing is just that good which they usually aren’t, especially when it’s yuri.
>while people in the east just want to see two characters get together.
It's cute that you think this when the majority of yuri fans are just otaku that are deathly afraid of men. Why do you think most yuri LNs, manga, and anime is just copies of the latest fad but with the main guy genderswapped?
Yuri hasn't actually tried to be a real thing since the 90s. That's why all the good yuri is from the 90s.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Why do you think most yuri LNs, manga, and anime is just copies of the latest fad but with the main guy genderswapped?
Most yuri manga are slice of life or OL stuff. It's not gender swapped Isekai stories.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You don't actually look at anything until it shows up on Dex do you?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Don't even read on Dex.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You definitely don't read anything direct then. Just last week Square put out a fricking yuri carbon copy of Yamada 999 and is already 9 chapters deep into a monthly yuri copy of Sono Bisque.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What does that have to do with MOST yuri manga not being isekai?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Isekai has been a fad for longer than a decade at this point in the post narou-kei world and there are shitloads of isekai yuri LNs and WNs that are basically just popular LN/WN that swapped the main guy for a girl. There's even a Tensura yuri copy even though Rimuru might as well be a girl already.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Isekai has been a fad for longer than a decade
That's not the point. It's a massive fad now which is what we're talking about. Most yuri manga aren't isekai these days. Some artists followed the fad like every genre is doing but it isn't a majority.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That is the point though. You think isekai is the current fad when it's been a fad so long that it's stopped being a fad and just became a solidified fantasy subgenre, and the majority of yuri LNs and WNs right now do follow genderswapping isekai heroes or love interests. The current tend in yuri LNs is copying the fricking villainness and revenger trends from the late 10s.
You're so out of the loop that you still think it's 2013 when Konosuba and ReZero are everything. You probably didn't even notice that the actual fads are shit like the Taisho boom that happened after Kimetsu took over Japan and suddenly Taisho era series were popping up everywhere, including lazy yuri copies of Kimetsu, or how after Sono Bisque charted post anime we got a glut of "MC has a specialized hobby they're ashamed of and love interest drags them out by being genki and passionate" series across Josei and Seinen, including lazy yuri copies that didn't even bother moving it away from cosplay. Or that right now we're in the fricking Spy x Family copy fad.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Except Isekai exploded in popularity recently. There being Isekai series in the past doesn't change that. >the majority of yuri LNs and WNs right now do follow genderswapping isekai heroes or love interests
No they aren't. You saying shit doesn't make it true.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that you think 7 to 10 years ago is recent means you're either the newest of the newbies, or you're losing your mind and think 2013 to 2015 was yesterday. The big isekai franchises right now were either first published between 2009 to 2013 thanks to the boom of self publishing in Japan or got their anime between 2013 to 2016. Even Tensura, one of the largest isekai properties around, started being published in 2013 and got its manga by 2015.
But hey, you want to pretend that isekai's popularity is new which means you don't actually browse web novel publishing sites, don't look at web comi distributors, and don't read light novels. Normally I'd say good for you because that means you're still pure, but in this current scenario it means you're a fricking loser idiot that doesn't know shit because you singled out isekai when the original post that started this chain only mentioned fads and not specifically isekai.
You're also on the board that has isekai properties going all the way back to the 70s and you don't even realize you're b***hing about a very specific brand of isekai generally known as narou-kei which itself stems from a website that started in 2004 and managed to produce popular franchise like fricking oniichan jesus.
Fricking camping with fenrir started publishing the same year IBO was airing. Guess what? There are a bunch of yuri copies of that series too.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You sound like a real homosexual and are still missing the point. "MOST" yuri series are NOT Isekai. Either prove they are or shut the frick up.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And you're the moronic homosexual that honed in on isekai when this was never about isekai you dumb c**t.
You moved the goalposts in the first place when the exact words were >Why do you think most yuri LNs, manga, and anime is just copies of the latest fad but with the main guy genderswapped?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Isekai is the biggest trend, dumb c**t. You can't even prove most yuri material copies the latest fad but wtth the main guy genderswapped. Because that isn't the truth. Even if it was the case which it isn't, everything does it. Everything hops on trends because people are trying to make money. But most yuri is still school girl stuff.
9 months ago
Anonymous
A trend that's over a decade old is an established subgenre you fricking moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
A trend is a trend. People are still copying it because it makes money and is easy to write. No matter how you try to frame it, people are doing it in droves (trending towards it). Now come up with that proof.
All Gundam is designed to market at young boys for the purposes of selling toys, if they get any other market it's as an accessory to the main goal. You are moronic if you genuinely think that they at down and said to themselves "oh jee golly let's make a series for all of the maybe 1000 rabid yuriBlack folk out there and pour a ton of money, time, and effort into it"
>and they realized confirming a pair of lesbians as the lead characters in a show aimed at young boys wasn’t the smartest marketing idea.
See, that's where you are wrong, kiddo. Bandai aimed this shit at teenagers by their own admission, and that audience loves the homosexual shit nowadays. Why else you think Yuri On Ice became such a big hit?
The show that's actually aimed at young boys is the SD Gundam sub-franchise.
>If you stepped outside of your bubble for a moment you’d realize the majority of people on this planet don’t actually like homos
Then how/why Disney and the rest keep getting away with it, and become rich in the process? See, for instance, that Owl House garbage.
Great objective source there, pal: >FISM News is a conservative news source that approaches each story from a biblical worldview.
Also, correlation is not causation. I guess homeschooled morons don't get to learn basic logic.
>Why else you think Yuri On Ice became such a big hit?
Yuri on Ice was popular for a lot of different reasons, the homosexual was the least of that surprisingly. The reason people got into that was because outside of the homosexual moments it told a story that anyone could resonate with and it was also around the time where Yuzuru Hanyu was someone that people knew worldwide.
G-Witch has none of that. Yuri on Ice had characters being actual characters. Yuuri doesn’t immediately and unequivocally follow Viktor unconditionally in their relationship and though they do fight, Viktor made sure to reconcile with Yuri properly. Anytime Miorine was upset, Suletta had to deal with it while when Suletta was upset, Miorine left her to rot. Outside of that, it just did a good job of establishing proper stakes and because Yuuri lost, his victories felt a lot more earned than how Suletta never seemed to actually put in the work, rather she just told Aerial to up the Permet score. I really hate people trying to use that comparison because Yuri on Ice had something for everyone yeah but it also had a story that it wanted to tell and took it’s own approach to it. G-Witch is an amalgamation of things that didn’t blend, let alone work well together topped off with incredibly one note characters who you can’t feel much about because they were never put in any situation where it was dangerous and when it was, it was immediately either reverted or cleared up off screen. The only thing it has going for it is the ship, you could not care at all about Viktor and Yuuri’s ship and still enjoy Yuri on Ice. The same can’t be said of G-Witch.
Well, no fricking shit. But still, even with stuff like [...], KnM wasn't some obscure OVA release.
Other than the chinks, what would've been the commercial downside of having Suletta and Miorine officially as a romantic/married couple at the end? Ambiguity made sense ten years ago, but it just attracts bad blood on "SNS" nowadays. Or you don't think the Japanese aren't having these exact same discussions on Twitter?
Moving on, I'm kinda baffled that GSC is releasing a model kit of this thing. I know you people are reading this. That's why you're bankrolling Cinemaphile. Why don't you release an M6 Bushnell from FMP instead?
I was looking for the one with the sword fight, but that's a lot better.
>decides to watch this out of boredom >I know a good decade in advanced about blue haired girl committing flute rape and turning into pedals at the end >hell, Monster Archives even intended to have a section on this back before it closed down in 2016 >presses play on aniwave >the animation is on a shoe string budget
Amazing what nobody talks about until you actually watch it. But hey, there's a Black Getter cape in it.
>Then how/why Disney and the rest keep getting away with it, and become rich in the process?
Does this count the 70 billion they'll owe Comcast for Hulu in the next ten months?
Do coomers just like yuri because there are no boys to be rivals for their self insert fantasy? Is that why so many weeb coomers chop their dicks off these days?
Yes, remember "Yuri/Lesbian is just a phase" is a jargon that those people still deeply believe. Its an extension of purity-homosexualry. >there are no boys to be rivals for their self insert fantasy?
Haha, anon. These people see the supposed to be male self insert character as their own rival or insecurities because in their mind male=gay.
>Yes, remember "Yuri/Lesbian is just a phase" is a jargon that those people still deeply believe
Yurigays don't say that. Antiyurigays do. You can't even stereotype the people you're obsessed with right.
There are 2 type of yurigay these day.
One do love the aspect of lesbian relationship, the other one is basically waifu-gay with different name which what i and that anon refer.
They don't outright said it out loud, but they do believe it deep down.
It's much more apparent on idol or gacha stuff like Lovelive or FGO.
Those aren't yurigays. They're waifugays who don't care about shipping the characters together. They care about the character being boyfriend free. Actual yurigays ignore people like that.
>Those aren't yurigays.
It doesn't matter they enjoy yurishit >who don't care about shipping the characters together.
They did, as long as the character that shipped with isn't male. That's why i use FGO as example. > They care about the character being boyfriend free
Keep up with the time gramps, These people don't want their waifu talk to opposite gender AT ALL, thats why they enjoy and becoming yurigay. >Actual yurigays ignore people like that.
These people ironically are the loudest along with troon
9 months ago
Anonymous
>It doesn't matter they enjoy yurishit
Not for yuri. Therefore they aren't yurigays. >They did, as long as the character that shipped with isn't male. That's why i use FGO as example.
Anyone who pays attention to FGO isn't a yurigay. >Keep up with the time gramps, These people don't want their waifu talk to opposite gender AT ALL, thats why they enjoy and becoming yurigay.
You keep up with the times. Yuri has had series without male characters for decades. This isn't new. >These people ironically are the loudest along with troon
Nobody likes troons.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon in
Do coomers just like yuri because there are no boys to be rivals for their self insert fantasy? Is that why so many weeb coomers chop their dicks off these days?
referring to Coomers being attached to Yuri works and not talking about Yurigay.
I’m just gonna say it: Calibarn should’ve been excluded. It deflated the hype Schwarezette got and essentially rendered that second fiddle. Suletta should’ve gotten the schwarezette, instead.
Scwsrzette should have stayed with Jeturk. Sulette stealing it or Guel handing it over would have been stupid.
Instead, Suletta should have piloted Pharact
>all the people losing their shit over all their wild conspiracy speculation being wrong.
It's a bit baffling that people thought Suletta would pilot a mobile suit designed by Gyoubu i.e. a Jeturk mobile suit
They just desperately wanted Suletta to do something cool since she was in her 4th depression at the time and nobody expected a super duper asspull gundam to be stored away in some janitor's closet
It’s not like Suletta hasn’t piloted other suits before. If you can show her using the Demi, then nothing’s wrong with her using Jeturk suits. Case in point…
Akihiro used a graze….
Setsuna used a flag…
Athrun piloted a zaku, and so on. Having gundam pilots use non-gundams or even other gundams isn’t new.
Kamille used the Mk. 2 before the Zeta, Roux piloted the ZZ alongside Zeta, and Amuro has piloted numerous Gundams and non-gundams throughout his life.
That doesn’t mean she can’t pilot anything else. The fun of a good pilot is being able to pilot anything, even if it’s not customized to them specifically. It makes it seem like a crutch if you can only succeed in certain suits while not being able to do much in others.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, the truth is that JNTHED would be in charge of Suletta's MS, not Gyoubu. This is a meta thing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It’s shit regardless and it makes Suletta seem weak.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And that's exactly the trap Suletta falls into. The most impressive thing she did in a non-gundam was some basic training exercises
I love that they just forget Suletta scars or anything that could actually make this seem sweet or interesting but they’ll always remember the rings like their life depends on it. This has to be the blandest ship in all of gundam.
Yeah, but the issue here is, Suletta absolutely still had them any they were less scars on the outside of her body and more so under her skin. Plus, this is, assumingly, before the ending where she still does have them so it doesn’t make sense.
In most of the art shown upthread she doesn’t and why would it only be on her face to begin with? It’d be so much cooler and make a lot more sense for it to be down her arms considering where she usually held when she started being in pain.
Ok now they are just mocking the sister being trapped in a key chain, why is it she gets a fate only the worst villains would get in other shows and all the actual villains got off scot-free, it's so fricked up like what the frick give her a robot body Jesus tap dancing Christ.
What else was suletta going to put her in? Nothing else was available. It's like asking why Edward elric didn't put Alphonse's soul in a human shaped mannequin instead of a suit of armor. He didn't have one available
After how many years? I don’t think it’d be that hard to do anything other than sticking her in an inanimate object. Like that seems like the worst place to put her unless you really just want to carry her around all the time while she has no say.
She should have either died outright or stayed in a mobile suit (get rid of the neo zedong distintegration)
Or maybe, just maybe, maybe put her in a new prosthetic body, like the ones their company has been trying to make and were already being developed 20 years before during the prologue
Don't forget a big theme in the show WAS tranhumanism and prosthesis. And now the character at the forefront of that theme is a voice trapped in an inert object
this whole marriage thing getting as big as it did was absurd. Imagine if any other trivial debates in gundam got this much heat. >the zaku head zeta/Rick Dias/Hyakushiki are totally gundams >nuh-uh they are not, the definition says so >well in this supplementary material/interview/manual/article it said they were gundams all along >well they don't feel very gundam like >frick your gundam-phobic zeek ass! >white devil worshipers are ruining the fandom!
>All they had to do was to put the fricking wedding or a fricking kiss on screen and none of this nonsense would've happened
Do you aware that TV Station is not allow to to air same sex kiss and wedding on family time slots?
wfm isn't worse in terms of fandom its just that every generation has its psycho cult addicts that are completely obsessed with secondary aspects. for the oldheads amongst you, do you recall the weird shrines people had on geocities of the gundam wing MCs. that shit was so bananas. its just now with twitter the cultists have a louder voice and it feels like they are everywhere
That shit was harmless. Having a character shrine doesn’t hurt anyone. Trying to force your homosexualry on others and crying when the big company says they’re going to cater to everyone and not just you is miles worse. Fandom operates entirely different nowadays, G-Witch is just a product of that.
I mean at least back then you had to put some effort out to find those "shrines" most normal people would just go and play Gundam web RPGs or play the rock paper scissors Toonami Game hours on end or just play Battle Assault with their friends. I used to be able to go into chat rooms and end up talking about how much we would want a gundam like armored core game.
If it feels like they are everywhere then they probably are. I can't go into any discussion on Twitter, reddit, hell even Instagram or tiktok without this shitty fan base talking about "ships" instead of the actual mobile suits, world or faction interdynamics. With the reaction and discussion around Gb***h Honestly I don't mind the Yaoi shit anymore, it used to annoy me when i would come across it but I would much rather have some "shrine" on some shithole corner of the internet I might stumble on or even never see than to immediately be inundated with shitflinging and crocodile tears about whos shipping who whenever I step foot into any conventional website about Gbitch. At least yaoi homosexuals had some decorum of modesty and let other people live.
I really hope the next TV series is more traditional. I just want G-Witchgays to seethe and frick off. I really hope Bamco doesn't view them as an audience they want to keep pandering to, especially after this stupid wedding shit.
No chance. Have you not seen what is currently in production? A fricking Zeon apologist movie made by a bunch of Westerners starring a fricking dyke fighting again a Gundam.
I can't believe they got away with so much being lifted from Izetta the last witch
I guess it wasn't popular enough but people sure noticed once Calibarn made the references obvious
It's even more shallow since Izetta was actually wheelchair bound and stuck like that instead of still in the process of recovering scot free like suletta was
I really hope the G-witch staff reveals that Suletta and Miorine put Eri in a cloned body or Robot body because it's a horrifying fate to be trapped in a keychain otherwise.
>a couple of hints
It had like one possible hint from the Permet registration numbers in episode 1, but that could've easily referred to the Lfriths too. Calibarn really came out of nowhere cause we just had to have a suit called Caliban somehow in an adaptation of The Tempest.
>but that could've easily referred to the Lfriths too
It couldn't because they weren't being used yet, as well as the idea that there was a machine that gave gundams their bad rep had to exist before the Lfriths, which ended up being Calibarn.
The show doesn't really do anything that another gundam didn't already do better or just as well with less focus.
The sense of style is kind of meh as well
Rather unless you are person who solely watches a show for romance, you won't find G-witch to be good. Side characters are severely lacking. It feels like the show wants you to care about Earth house but other than Chu-Chu never gave any of them substantial moments.
The romance wasn't even great either. Sulu and Mio barely bounce off each other in S1. I don't even mind the concept too much but I hate yurigay treating this show as a 10/10 when it's just... Meh...
What do I talk about? The mobile suit that gets destroyed in seconds without doing anything? Or the mobile suit that defeats the other mobile suit by turning its controls off? Or maybe the mobile suits that got disintegrated after appearing once or twice
Rather unless you are person who solely watches a show for romance, you won't find G-witch to be good. Side characters are severely lacking. It feels like the show wants you to care about Earth house but other than Chu-Chu never gave any of them substantial moments.
I want to know what went in Bandai's mind when they saw every Gunpla not the MC's never sold and rotted on the shelves as well as them not checking out the older series.
Was it something like, "We fricked up."
Naturally but the other suits still get a good amount of love. I really doubt you'd get a metalbuild of any suit that isn't Aerial. Even Bael got one for IBO
The Demi, Pharact, Zowort, Dilanza, and Daribalde all sold like hotcakes though
It's literally just the Michaelis because it's a pretty dull design with a lame weapon.
I guess I could believe that for the one episode Chu-Chu shined.
The Zowort Heavy specifically sold very well because of Armored Core
I could see it selling out once but that's not because of it own show is it?
Other than the Aerial G-witch was a terrible platform to sell Gunpla but that's many modern Gundam Anime.
They sold well at first and then completely dropped off. He's a picture I took in Japan. Every electronics store or Gundam shop has looked the same for a few months.
Nu Gundam and Aile Strike are just as filled as the WFM stuff. You just took that pic after a restock.
Or are you going to make some insane claim that WFM has been so toxic and driven off so many fans with it's gays that they can't even sell signature suits of Amuro Ray and Kira Yamato anymore?
Just one angle, and the other kits are mostly a decade old. Plenty of Miorines and Sulettas warming shelves.
Nu Gundam and Aile Strike are just as filled as the WFM stuff. You just took that pic after a restock.
Or are you going to make some insane claim that WFM has been so toxic and driven off so many fans with it's gays that they can't even sell signature suits of Amuro Ray and Kira Yamato anymore?
You could always just become a show agnostic gunpla enthusiast. There are tons of those. I've seen some pretty good kitbashes of Jeturk HGs with Ameria MSs from G-Reco. One of Osaka's premiere gunpla builders did a Darilbalde x Space Jahannam custom build with Assault Pack parts from G-Self.
I don't like the show and absolutely despise the fans, but that didn't stop me from getting the lfrith, dilanza, darilbalde, zowort and schwarzette.
You could always just become a show agnostic gunpla enthusiast. There are tons of those. I've seen some pretty good kitbashes of Jeturk HGs with Ameria MSs from G-Reco. One of Osaka's premiere gunpla builders did a Darilbalde x Space Jahannam custom build with Assault Pack parts from G-Self.
>did a Darilbalde x Space Jahannam custom build with Assault Pack parts from G-Self.
Show me
>>It's ALL GIRLS bro! That's what REAL MANLY MEN LIKE ME want. What do you want some guy in there for? You gay bro? You a cuck?
I really don't get this argument in what world does a guy watch a shitty lesbian drama, just because he likes to jack it to girl on girl porn?
Depends on character designs and how much lesbian action os going on.
G-witch would be one of the last shows id recomend for this though, due to the characters clothes being to boring/not fetishy enough, and no actual lesbian activities on screen.
Yes. I mean, look at Madoka. The yurigays have been propping that show up for years. It was good when it came out because it was kind of a dark take on the magical girl genre, but holy Christ, the Madoka x Homura shippers will not fricking quit.
You know what I hate the most? The lack of any memorable places outside of and even inside the school. I love metaphors and shit in artwork but the fact that they didn’t show not one good place for Miorine and Suletta to have as a wedding venue makes me sad. There aren’t any colony cities or specially protected areas on earth, it’s all just so bland and generic.
>"school" gundam >Uniforms are bland >No teacher characters >Classes are irrelevant, the only class we see on permit is 75% of the way through the show >very little would change if the student characters weren't students >No focus on education as a theme >Suletta wants to open a school (so she has something else to her personality beyond being lesbian) but it only gets brought up twice >In retrospect it's obvious the only reason it's set in school is the intrinsic Japanese JK fetish
It also makes Suletta look like even more of a moron when she still clings to her idyllic delusions of how great school is despite how shit her own education was even without all the terrorism. Maybe if she actually had to reconcile her misconceptions and discuss with a teacher how a school should be run that could have actually been interesting but that would take a director who knows what he's actually doing. I wonder if Suletta's new schools will have a holder system too? She was quite a fan of it in the end lmao
Most of it is Suletta being sheepish and kowtowing to whatever Miorine is thinking, while Miorine bosses everyone around and doesn't consider what other people might be feeling. That's an alright CEO mindset, but not a good one for personal relationships. Suletta already experienced a bout of depression from Miorine not caring for her, and then Miorine cruelly throws it all away when she fixes Suletta's last duel in Aerial.
They're really not good for each other, and the chief thing keeping them together was just the requirement that the Holder marry Miorine. That's what Suletta kept falling back to and couldn't come up with anything substantial to say about their relationship together. Shallow and unconvincing.
They never backpedaled because they never confirmed it in the first place, for one. Someone said the quiet part out loud and Bandai wanted to keep it unconfirmed for the sake of the widest profit net, like most yuri shows. Cue Yuri seething as Bandai now focuses on the Gundam Seed movie..
>Bandai wanted to keep it unconfirmed for the sake of the widest profit net, like most yuri shows
Why? This doesn't make any sense from a commercial point of view. Where is the profit by keeping things ambiguous?
Half of last year's money was made before G-Witch even entered the market and Gundam has been breaking its revenue record every year since 2019.
What are you going to say next year when fiscal 2024 breaks the record again and they talking about Gundam Seed Freedom kits?
I would say Seed is still a draw, my point was Witch made money not that it's the only Gundam series to make money.
You saw the word highest sales and looked at nothing else in the sentence that actually described the time period and the specific line of said highest sales. Please learn how to read properly.
The image I posted is part of a larger report and I ain't gonna post the whole thing, I'm sure you can google Bandai's financial reports.
I'm sure the release of Cucuruz Doan's Island had no effect on this whatsoever
For toy sales it probably had little to no effect since Bandai did frick all with new kits for the movie, they made Doan's Zaku a P-Bandai exclusive for Pete's sake.
Unfortunately anon almost every kit is pretty much P-Bandai these days unless it's a flagship suit. Frankly I'm sick of it. Half the ReRise kits were P-Bandai.
Yet somehow P-Bandai kits still manage to make the toy charts in Japan and that makes me hate the Japanese consumers even more.
At this point there are more non-Gundam HGs getting put into stores than Gundam HGs. The fact that G-Witch is the first full HG line release since Gundam NT hurts my fricking brain. I would've said Hathaway but I'm pretty sure they just reprinted the Unicorn Gustav Karl instead of put out a Hathaway Karl.
Anon, G-Witch did not make as big a dent as youre making it out to be because a frick ton of other series got stuff as well. Did you forget the expensive ass kits thst came out and were still selling better than the G-Witch HGs? I can't recall exactly but last year had much more than just G-Witch.
Well Bandai's President disagrees, I don't even like the show but people saying it failed are objectively wrong.
It's initial sales were good, that says nothing about its longevity. If they said that even now Aerial was stillselling well I'd agree with you but that isn't what was said.
>were still selling better
It's oranges and apples. One is selling "better" in numbers, whereas the other sells "better" in money. You have a bunch of cheap kits for a new audience, whereas the hardcore fanatics will shell out in excess of $1,000 for a luxury metal Nu and Sazabi. Which, by the way, aren't sold anywhere except through P-Bandai's website.
Which still means that once the initial hype died down Aerial's sales weren't contributing as much as those lunatics spending a ton on the higher costing kits.
RG Hi Nu was still the top seller even though it's been like 2 years
This is what I think people are failing to understand. Aerial initially sold amazingly for the line that it was in but after that initial sales period there hasn't been much to comment on and that sales period was a fraction of that fiscal year.
Anon, G-Witch did not make as big a dent as youre making it out to be because a frick ton of other series got stuff as well. Did you forget the expensive ass kits thst came out and were still selling better than the G-Witch HGs? I can't recall exactly but last year had much more than just G-Witch.
>were still selling better
It's oranges and apples. One is selling "better" in numbers, whereas the other sells "better" in money. You have a bunch of cheap kits for a new audience, whereas the hardcore fanatics will shell out in excess of $1,000 for a luxury metal Nu and Sazabi. Which, by the way, aren't sold anywhere except through P-Bandai's website.
You saw the word highest sales and looked at nothing else in the sentence that actually described the time period and the specific line of said highest sales. Please learn how to read properly.
I had my suspicions about how they would tell WfM's story due to Kyoukai Senki/AMAIM: Warrior at the Borderline. With how WfM ended, I doubt I can expect a good mecha story from Bandai Namco Filmworks/Sunrise these days.
The only mecha story I'm enjoying so far is Synduality Noir even if it's tied to a video game that isn't out yet. Of course now, with the warning that it's only 12 episode so far (https://pixela.co.jp/vod/sundualitynoir-anime-muryou/), I have to be cautious with how it will end. Not onyl that, it isn't even Bandai Namco Filmworks/Sunrise (they produced it but the grunt work is Eight Bit).
That and 24+ episodes isn't enough for mecha anime these days because 50 episodes at minimum is needed for world building.
>I had my suspicions about how they would tell WfM's story due to Kyoukai Senki/AMAIM: Warrior at the Borderline. With how WfM ended, I doubt I can expect a good mecha story from Bandai Namco Filmworks/Sunrise these days.
I'm not quite as doompilled. Hathaway's Flash Part 1 was still great, but it was written by Tomino. After that? Probably back to mediocrity.
The only thing I fear are hefty rewrites of the novel. Hathaway is out to kill politicians in a time when Japanese politicians are getting assassinated in real life. Will that change anything for the movies? Probably not, though I wouldn't be surprised if the delay for Part 2 is being extra long because they don't want to release it close to Abe's assassination. But even if we are in for less than ideal changes, I would rather deal with them as they come than agonize over them preemptively.
Tomino himself also has other projects lined up and those should be good as well.
Hathaway is fine. The majority of the assassinations took place in movie 1. Movie 2s actual problem is that the Federation is going to completely annihilate an Australian city in massive war crimes and because of how well documented the Ukraine-Russo war is people actually saw that shit happening on streams and in real time.
Most of the delay for movie 2 was that they couldn't go to Australia, then most of the upper staff got caught up in projects like Murase with the Psycho Pass movie. G-Witch also had to pull from the Hathaway team a few times to even get some episodes finished making G-Witch Bandai's version of FFXIII.
Still, if KS/AMAIM and WfM end up with lackluster storytelling, I'm not confident of them doing the story for the Macross show they were approached to do. And before the restructuring into Bandai Namco Filmworks, Sunrise never righted these particular wrongs: a proper treatment of the story Ryosuke Takahashi wanted to tell with Blue Comet SPT Layzner and an expanded story for Mobile Suit Gundam F91.
>I'm not confident of them doing the story for the Macross show they were approached to do.
Macross is Big West. Sunrise is just working as the animation producer.
The problem is that the majority of anime writers are basically all like Dai Sato. They can write a concept but they can't actually write a story.
Most of the good screenplay and scenario writers retired or died during the 2010s. It's basically all on the directors to keep the stories reigned in but both KS and WfM had shitty directors and the problems showed outside of the writing as well. Just compare Murase and Kobayashi when they had similar material but presented them completely differently.
Compare how Hathaway and Gigi cling together while the Messer is lighting up like fireworks while it's being impaled to Aerial winning in episode 1 where it has the god rays and feathers. It's night and day in presentation and cinematography.
Compare the riot mobile suits at the protests in G-Witch to a singular Manhunter Jegan terrorizing Davao as Manhunters assault civilians.
You can argue budget, but the fact still remains that Murase's team also did a better job with similar scenarios in far less time.
And as for narrative, you know more about Davao in 45 minutes than you do about the school in G-Witch in 24 episodes.
You can even compare Hathaway's PTS induced mannerisms to Suletta's post-Mio betrayal depression and see how much more nuanced Murase's team was in their presentation.
I would respond to you seriously and refute all of your points but you have demonstrated that you exist in a moronic bubble and view reality in a fundementally detached way from what it actually is. Go back to /leftypol/ or Twitter or leddit or whatever shithole you slithered out of idiot
>I would respond to you seriously and refute all of your points
Then do it. Refute the facts. I am more than willing to listen, if you have something to add that isn't hearsay or dumb anecdotal evidence. In the meantime, for better or worse: >Nearly two-thirds of Generation Z is worried about the future of LGBTQ+ rights, including a quarter who say they are “extremely concerned,” according to new survey data from the market research firm Toluna. >The survey, which collected responses from more than 1,000 Generation Z between the ages of 18 and 25, found that most young people in the U.S. are deeply anxious about the state of LGBTQ+ rights
>a fundementally detached way from what it actually is.
So, what is it "actually"? I don't know about a "/leftypol/" or anything of that sort.
Fresh off the drama press; Ohno posts a statement that he's in line with Bandai's official stance and that people should get over it already.
It's also a side-rant, following a Tweet where he was salty that the only things being shared and spread were SulMio images, and not that of the other artworks, such as his Chu-Chu image.
I'm surprised any members of the staff would be stupid enough to say anything and lets be real only Okouchi or Kobayashi's words are the only ones that matter when it comes to the story.
I’m glad that this shits on everyone going >the staff actually really really wanted to show it!!
Yeah it’s only one guy but I feel like that’s already enough to put a whole in that particular take on what happened.
It definitely shoots down the idea that the staff were entirely onboard with going full lesbian marriage, which was never realistic to begin with. Just severe projection and copium.
Man, Post G-Witch has been more entertaining than currently-airing G-Witch.
I agree; it's kind of wild watching the extreme coping going on between the lesbian fans as someone other than Bandai's execs show that they're not wholly on board with the idea; spinning it either as an organized attempt by Bandai to get the staff on the same neutral page, or just one upset staff member (who also happens to be the art director for Witch).
The cope now is that he was “at odds” with his coworkers and that “he was only an animation director not anywhere near the story.” The staff just wanted to make a good story and them making the doujin was just something fun that they wanted to do as a “what if” not to try and undermine what happened in canon or “make their own ending.” Doujinshi culture in the east isn’t like fic culture in the west where everything is a “fix-it” fic.
>just because you believe something doesn't mean you have the right to attack others for thinking differently
If that's the case, why did Bandai remove the marriage line from the interview? If it's just Kana's interpretation of the story, why delete it? You can't have it both ways.
Because people took it as an official statement and not just her opinion as the matter, hence why it was causing issues in the first place. Bandai knew what would happen and the editor fricked it up.
>hence why it was causing issues in the first place
First of all, why should it matter if some people interpret it as a official statement? If it's just their interpretation of Kana's authorial intent then it shouldn't matter. Second, the print interview was only out 1-2 days before the online version. There's no way Bandai could have reasonably assessed any affect it had on the fanbase.
Because Bandai knew Shipper's are batshit that only care about being pandered and would even attack people who against their shipping.
There has been so many cases of artist or staff being attacked just because they did follow shippers head canon.
Bandai simply didn't want those toxic behavior's was "endorsed" by them with their official statement
>even attack people who against their shipping
It's just Bandai and those artists' interpretation that they're being attacked. They really need to stop living such sensitive glass houses, especially when they criticize people for being "fixated" on an aspect of the show they personally weren't interested in but expect
Because they didn’t want to make an official statement. >There's no way Bandai could have reasonably assessed any affect it had on the fanbase.
It’s called foresight. They knew what would happen if that part was left in hence the intention to leave it out. It being left in only ended up proving that they were right in wanting to leave it out to begin with. No one’s saying you can’t think that they’re married, you just can force that thought onto other people which is the issue they wanted to avoid. They want the show to speak for itself without any outside or after comment.
>It being left in only ended up proving that they were right in wanting to leave it out to begin with
The trouble only started when Bandai walked back the statement. No one cared when Kana said they were married and people just brushed it off as some weird error when the text changes were discovered.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>but expect no criticism in return.
Computer ate the rest of the my post.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, there was already trouble when people first found out that it was edited. If Bandsi had left it at that there still would have been a shit storm and a bunch of people wondering why it was changed. If they said it was an error people wouldn’t believe them and if they stood by the initial comment it’s like making an official statement that only that interpretation is right. They made the comment because they wanted to clarify that SuleMio marriage was an “if you want it you can have it, if you don’t you don’t have to” thing. I do agree that their wording fanned the flames and gave more outlets and fans ammo but staying quiet would have had those same fans and outlets harassing their staff for answers on it and that’s not a good look for the people they work with.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There were some people who immediately jumped the gun and were unreasonably angry right away but most people were just confused and wanted some clarification. If they ignored it, it would have eventually been swept under the rug and forgotten.
I don’t think they wanted to leave her out to dry like that. They were trying to cover their asses and hers as well because if they said that was just her opinion on the matter then it paints her as being someone who doesn’t read a company’s intentions well and will say things that cause trouble. That kind of person would be seen as difficult to work with.
>everyone is free to have their own opinions on the show >not the VAs though, they must have our opinions on the show
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, VA's and their word get treated to a different standard. Pretty reasonable
9 months ago
Anonymous
I think if she had clarified more so that it was her interpretation it would have been different. The way she said it made it sound like Suletta’s development was intrinsically tied to the marriage being canon which is what Bandai didn’t want said because it sounds like less of an opinion and is more so stated as fact.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>because it sounds like less of an opinion and is more so stated as fact.
You could forgive her for that after watching the epilogue, but what do I know?
>It would invite a number of unpleasant NTR posters who insist that Atra cheated on him with another man
Here’s the thing about that though. People can interpret things and still be wrong but they’re free to interpret it however. If someone believes a cuck fantasy, that’s them. If you look at the show and get something different that’s fine too. If the creators intentions aren’t clear to you, they aren’t shunning you by saying you’re wrong, they’re saying if you have enough to back it up, you can believe whatever you want.
>the creators' intentions
But we don't know if it was the creator's intentions. This was the clearly publisher's. Perhaps Tsutomu is right and all of the staff really wanted the marriage to be up to interpretation, but that doesn't seem likely given the actions of at least some of them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yes you can forgive her hence Bandai trying to spare her the trouble and not letting her take the full force of the comment by herself. Her interpretation is correct but so is others regarding Suletta’s development. >but that doesn't seem likely given the actions of at least some of them.
And what actions are those? You need to realize, shipping in Japan for the most part, doesn’t care about if it becomes canon or not because it’s about the journey to get there that matters. Yeah some of the staff like Sulemio and want to give them their own personal version of a happy ending but their bias does not change that the show left it open ended. More than anything, the staff want people to enjoy the story as a whole, they don’t want to force what they like upon others and instead let them enjoy it the way they enjoy it. That’s what both the comment in the doujin and Tsutomu’s comment are trying to get across.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Trying to appeal to everyone is cowardly. Many non-yuri fans even expressed this opinion when G-Witch appealed heavily to yurigays in the first episode, so it's hardly alien.
>the show left it open ended
That's the issue though. When the show ended, no one thought it was open ended. It only retroactively became open-ended when the statement was released.
>Bandai trying to spare her the trouble and not letting her take the full force of the comment by herself
I almost guarantee nothing would have happened to her or her reputation if her comment about the marriage stayed.
9 months ago
Anonymous
But in the end Bandai did not denied everything.
It's really should bother people because it's just interview
Any sensible person would see Bandai final statement as nothing essential has been changed and move along.
There were some people who immediately jumped the gun and were unreasonably angry right away but most people were just confused and wanted some clarification. If they ignored it, it would have eventually been swept under the rug and forgotten.
[...] >everyone is free to have their own opinions on the show >not the VAs though, they must have our opinions on the show
>not the VAs though, they must have our opinions on the show
Well duh, They were promoting Corpo's work after.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Bandai final statement as nothing essential has been changed and move along
It's frustrating because it opens the door to a number of bad faith interpretations. Imagine if Bandai came out and that said that Mika's son being his was actually "up to interpretation". It would invite a number of unpleasant NTR posters who insist that Atra cheated on him with another man. I'm not some extreme yurigay that thinks it was homophobic censorship or similar nonsense, but it was just a moronic decision all-around and deserves some criticism.
Yeah, VA's and their word get treated to a different standard. Pretty reasonable
The VA's have no control over the writing, so not really. Just like the animator is entitled to his opinion.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>It would invite a number of unpleasant NTR posters who insist that Atra cheated on him with another man
Here’s the thing about that though. People can interpret things and still be wrong but they’re free to interpret it however. If someone believes a cuck fantasy, that’s them. If you look at the show and get something different that’s fine too. If the creators intentions aren’t clear to you, they aren’t shunning you by saying you’re wrong, they’re saying if you have enough to back it up, you can believe whatever you want.
Because they didn’t want to make an official statement. >There's no way Bandai could have reasonably assessed any affect it had on the fanbase.
It’s called foresight. They knew what would happen if that part was left in hence the intention to leave it out. It being left in only ended up proving that they were right in wanting to leave it out to begin with. No one’s saying you can’t think that they’re married, you just can force that thought onto other people which is the issue they wanted to avoid. They want the show to speak for itself without any outside or after comment.
It's the fact that the statement wasn't clarified to be an personal stance in the first place, so Bandai had to make it clear that it wasn't the stance of the company, just an individual, and to avoid confusion, would just outright retract the statement. Just like how most other companies would distances themselves from the statement of an individual employee if they're caught saying something contrary to the current preferred corporate stance.
Bandai didn't add a statement that it was just Kana's personal opinion. They removed statement from the interview and tried to pretend that it was never said.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t think they wanted to leave her out to dry like that. They were trying to cover their asses and hers as well because if they said that was just her opinion on the matter then it paints her as being someone who doesn’t read a company’s intentions well and will say things that cause trouble. That kind of person would be seen as difficult to work with.
>Prospera survives but as a punishment she's tetraplegic for life >Suletta ends up recovering >Ericht being a literal keychain is a good ending
I read somewhere G-Witch's treatment towards disabilities was supposed to be progressive but I can't see it
for a show about prosthesis and transhumanism giving Eri this gag ending of being trapped in an accessory and apparently being fine with it is kind of distasteful
Just another proof that yuri baiting is way more successful than full blown yuri, frick off
Also frick off anyone who says that bandai are cowards, if it was a full blown yuri from the beginning we wouldn't be getting close to the amount of sulemio fanart compared to now
10 fricking years and all I got was Yuri baiting, an unicorn-esque ending and lots of cool designs that barely did shit because they decided to make a GM with Nu-gundam funnels as the main MS
They announced in the first episode that yuri marriage was commonplace. Anyone with a brain knew it was going the yuri route and virtually everyone agreed that after the last episode they were married. Bandai walking back on the marriage literally gained them nothing.
>cowards
It was obviously a PR frickup at every stage.
Platonic.
why are gwitch fans so fricking weird
They're like ten years younger than your average gundam fan.
I don't call those "gundam fan"
They should have "graduated" and touch grass.
I think it's sunk cost fallacy.
zoomers have a really high rate of mental illness compared to previous generations
>zoomers have a really high rate of mental illness compared to previous generations
I fear the future generations
It's the previous generation's fault. 99.99% of any given generation's problems are the result of their prefecessors being incompetent frickwads.
People suck at society.
>previous generation's
The gen x-ers that raised them or the millenials that sculpted internet culture?
The rate of mental illness isn't higher, medicine and understanding of mental illness have just improved so the rate of diagnosis is higher. Older generations are just as mentally ill but they were too stupid to realize it and just beat their kids into resenting them.
The difference is though, nowadays mental illness is encouraged and thus it prospers and flourishes now.
Is wish to be pandered and escapism considered as mental illness?
It's what happens when you create media with a focus on shipping with no actual substance
This thread is only proving that anti-gwitch frens are the weird ones.
Not in the slightest.
Yeah, the chimping out that OP is causing and will keep causing until the thread dies is all imaginary.
>Laughing at op is chimping out now
lol
lmao
Well, I don't see how making schizo posts about the current generation being doomed or legit seething at yurigays (which barely show up in these threads anyway) qualifies as laughing, but you do you.
>frens
Go away.
True
Holy COPE
They're teenagers.
Are they? I always hear of Gwitch bringing new fans but that seems to be true only with the alphabet community. Where's the evidence teenagers are into the show?
LGBT pandering.
Because they only talk about shipping
It's unironically up to interpretation.
Nice fanart by the animator
It is not how I interpeted their relationship, but more power to him
If you are going to samegay, at least change the joke a bit.
>doujin
kek
Mio's short hair looks fricking moronic
Up for interpretation.
I remember the time the yurigays smugly hyped up a yuri ballroom dance in episode 7
>It didn't happen
Then they smugly hyped up a kiss in episode 20 believing in some "totally irrefutable" leak
>It didn't happen
Then they smugly hyped up a great big yuri wedding in episode 24
>It didn't happen
And then, having deemed their udders now milked, BASEDai decided to gaslight the yurigays by whittling away the one "victory" of an offscreen wedding they had left. Honestly? I'd say they deserve it. For as much as they may scream and moan they already paid their money and will probably still pay more for the scant crumbs that get swept off the table into their domain.
Wow, that animator surely has a talent for fanarts! Fortunately they are not actually married and their relation is purely platonic, as it should be.
Okay?
wow, artwork from a doujin. incredible
g-witchgays are embarrassing
Fanfiction
Up to interpretation. They had a double (hetero) wedding and they're (platonically) embracing because they're so excited for each other that they found nice husbands.
Let's be honest, Kannazuki no Miko wasn't a mainstream anime from a huge commercial franchise, that's why they got away with it.
Well, no fricking shit. But still, even with stuff like
, KnM wasn't some obscure OVA release.
Other than the chinks, what would've been the commercial downside of having Suletta and Miorine officially as a romantic/married couple at the end? Ambiguity made sense ten years ago, but it just attracts bad blood on "SNS" nowadays. Or you don't think the Japanese aren't having these exact same discussions on Twitter?
Moving on, I'm kinda baffled that GSC is releasing a model kit of this thing. I know you people are reading this. That's why you're bankrolling Cinemaphile. Why don't you release an M6 Bushnell from FMP instead?
>KnM wasn't some obscure OVA release
No, but it is a niche anime with no mecha toys (at the time), next to no corpo exec supervision, and no pressure to sell it to China.
>with no mecha toys (at the time)
That's literally what moderoid is for, dumbass
They did granbelm, they did rayearth, but you're whining that they're doing kannazuki?
I have this
I was looking for the one with the sword fight, but that's a lot better.
Part of me wants to see this out of curiosity, but I settled with Gigantic Formula yesterday instead. Yes, I'm the OP from that thread.
>we'll have this garbage stinking up the board
Only g-witch threads and really only if you want to talk about sulemioshipping and if you want to talk about shipping garbage you're better off going to the twitter colony circlejerk generap on Cinemaphile.
Almost all G-Witch threads here tend to go to shit regardless of if OP brings up shipping or not, and you very well know why.
Because the only thing people talk about in G-witch is the shipping?
I mean what else are you gonna talk about?
It's not as if the show has anything substantial to talk about.
>Because the only thing people talk about in G-witch is the shipping?
If you're talking about the antis, yes, they can't stop yapping about muh woke and muh yurigays. Most of the serious threads here haven't been about shipping, but the antis will bring it up regardless, probably because they spend most of their time on shitholes like Cinemaphile or Twitter instead of /m/.
>I mean what else are you gonna talk about?
>It's not as if the show has anything substantial to talk about.
The show didn't leave much to talk about, but you still see threads like that recent one about Shaddiq once in a while. As for actual shipping threads, I'd rather these morons ignore these (likely bait) threads and let them die instead of clogging them up with their garbage and moronation, it's not like they're gonna bring up anything of substance.
>The show didn't leave much to talk about,
That is all you needed to say.
Not directly related to this thread but it seems like the most appropriate thread to ask. How much non-Gundam /m/ content is being sold at this Comiket? I found this in the Cinemaphile thread but haven't seen anything else.
>Don't touch the opus
If anything, KnM explicit "Lesbian Win" is the reason why it was(and still niche) title.
This is also why you see CDCGT show mostly never committed their girl into explicit relationship.
Its the same frustrasion that people who watch Harem and normal relationship anime had
Precisely.
>Bandai aimed this shit at teenagers by their own admission, and that audience loves the homosexual shit nowadays. Why else you think Yuri On Ice became such a big hit?
Not exactly true. Yuri on Ice was aimed at adult women, not teens. You can see that from the kind of magazines that had articles on it (non-otaku mags aimed at adult women):
>When it comes to the world of fashion and lifestyle magazines here in Japan, there’s possibly no name more revered than “Numero Tokyo,” a monthly-published glance into the world of high-fashion, as well as the strides it’s making across the nation. Within the pages of this magazine, you’ll find brand names such as Giorgio Armani, Valentino, Saint Laurent, and now, Yuri!!! on ICE.
>https://www.otaquest.com/yuri-on-ice-numero/
>amerimutts are so desperate and obsessed with triggering libs that they'll screech about hot ass lesbians and side with the authoritarian CCP because they hate gay people
>on top of that they're brainwashing themselves with revisionist delusions of IBO being good, the show about a bunch of gay shirtless buff kids crying and seething only to lose in the end anyway
lol
>Suletta and Miorine
>hot ass
It's a genuine moron and her dollar store tsundere featuring in the most sterile gundam leading romance since KiraxLacus
>side with the authoritarian CCP
The CCP had nothing to do with the marriage being canceled. It wasn't even airing in mainland China. Ya'll are the most authoritarian faction in politics dumbass. "Everyone has to participate in our delusion or face fines/jailtime/threats to their job".
>revisionist delusions of IBO being good
Just because you don't have any reading comprehension doesn't mean the rest of the us are similarly challenged. IBO was better than witch on every conceivable metric.
>"Everyone has to participate in our delusion or face fines/jailtime/threats to their job".
Just like pre-Elon Twitter and Reddit?
has it ever occured to you that people who don't like this kind of stuff may not be le American ebique conservative republitard but are motivated by other things that aren't just purely boomer tribalism? Your /leftypol/ is showing
>but are motivated by other things that aren't just purely boomer tribalism
Such as? Come on, homosexual, just name one motivation.
Well, half side of yuri is simp mentality.
As they like and support the pairing because it made them felt happy or pleasant so see.
I guess you could put that into Escapism
Paraphilia is mental illness, so liking yuri still counts as such. Theres also the fact that many of them are self-hating males.
Meant for
It also has Lauda and Guel dancing shoulder to shoulder in matching outfits
Suletta looks like a crossdressing man.
Funny enough the Chinese drama with the Guel simp censored Miorine into being a man
You're not a real homie if you don't look your homies in the eyes and grab a handful of ass.
They are cute together, a shame the show didn't give them a more romantic relationship.
The artbook also has an Obari illustration featuring Calibarn and Aerial apparently.
How did we from IBO to this gay high school shit? At this point, even g recon was better than this.
IBO paved the way.
I interpret that their loving husband Guel is just out of frame as he admires his two brides.
Is there anything else interesting in it?
https://fusetter.com/tw/8vXt9HY3#all
Here's a summary of all the illustrations.
Glad to see they didn't forget her, now if only Felsi also had a page as well...
Are there any pictures of it?
Some of them are on the Cinemaphile thread
I’m too scared to go there.
Secelia canonically has a massive ass and thighs
Nobody cares, g b***h sucks.
Didn't you post this on your y/u/ri nest on Cinemaphile already? I thought you WfM fans hates /m/echas and robots in general? Are you really that desperate for validation? Frick off with your dyke shit.
When you think about it Okouichi blew millions and nosedive one of Japan's biggest franchises just to animate his mediocre Utena fanfic, and on some level you can respect that. I'm looking forward to seeing how much Yaoi he will put into Grendizer
but isn't Grendizer funded by arabs countries?
Bandai sure are cowards, but this meme is really funny. I will use it on and off for a some time, because it makes me smile. I'm sorry if it irritates you, dude, as you were robbed of your hot lesbian wedding, but it's just too funny.
I still hated WfM, but not because of main duo. Sucks to be fan of it.
schizo moment
Hating women is unironically the most coherent and sane thing a man can do, they're are uniformly awful pieces of shit and their inclusion in media that is suppose to entertain people is damaging and corrosive to society as a whole.
I like the Chuchu pic
the funny thing is that not even that was needed.
the rings were proof enough, all that bandai needed to do was NOT to enforce the editing of the interview and send that paper. i.e.: NOT take a side in the war.
Desu, Gwitch issues wasn't at all the gay shit. gay shit done right can be good.
It was how bland it was, and also how Suletta/Miorine had almost no synergy together, at times they were almost abusives, especially Miorine.
I would have prefered if they acted more human.
Abusive yuri is getting popular
Getting? The earlier yuri "classics" are about women being psychos to each other, just like KnM as already posted
Definitely agreed on the last two points.
oh my god these witches gay etc.
>Artbook isn't even about the fricking mechas
The absolute fricking state of this show.
It’s more on an anthology/doujin than an artbook. The actual artbook with the promo arts and character and mech models will come out later.
Literal child brain
>Where are my dolls!!!
>he says, on /m/
>pro-authoritarian
>I'm left wing
Is this some kind of LARP or are there actually people this moronic posting here?
Seething morons.
"Pro-authority" is not the same as "pro-authoritarian". The latter are the insane people who worship Stalin, Mao, the Castros or Enver Hohxa.
>no Permet scars
>no walking stick
Wedding pictures sure have a lot of Photoshop.
Compared to Kamille's nuanced slow recovery from his mind being shattered that's pretty shameful and pretty disturbing. First they time skip through any actual hardship Suletta might have faced from her "Sacrifice" and now they forgot it even happened. I guess the only reason WfM's writers included that in the first place was to make the show seem more mature than it actually is
God damn I hope bandai tries to handwave this one to. Tries to pass it off as a student play or something.
Why would Bandai care about an unofficial fan book?
Don't care. It'd be funny.
Bandai doesn't give much of a damn about a fan book. Bandai thing was not confirming or denying it. Which is what Bandai is still doing.
>itt a bunch of housewife FARTs get irrationally mad about things
You can't fool me you vapid c**ts.
Because Bandai are a multimillion dollar global corporation and they realized confirming a pair of lesbians as the lead characters in a show aimed at young boys wasn’t the smartest marketing idea. If you stepped outside of your bubble for a moment you’d realize the majority of people on this planet don’t actually like homos, especially ones in media aimed at their kids.
They have different series for different demographics.
The Build series is the young boys toy shilling series.
The Universal Century OVA/Movies are for the adult fans.
G-Witch was the yuri series.
Honestly it feels like Bandai and Sunrise are on completely different pages about the series. Sunrise made a series with te girls planning to be married, are seen wearing wedding rings, Miorine is referred to as sister in law by Eri, there is now semi-official* art of them in wedding dresses together, the Gundam info tweet about the final episode referred to them as being each other's wives, the voice actress referred to them as married in an interview that Bandai had censored after publicarion.
It kind of feels like Sunrise went ahead and made an actual full yuri series instead of a yuribaiting series behind Bandai's back, and now Bandai is trying to deny it.
*Semi Official because it was made by the Staff of the show, but I'm assuming not actually approved by the companies involved as it was sold at comiket. So, like that Godannar doujin made by it's staff to help finance the second season.
>It kind of feels like Sunrise went ahead and made an actual full yuri series instead of a yuribaiting series behind Bandai's back, and now Bandai is trying to deny it.
See, this is precisely what I mean by "cowardice". If you don't have the cojones to go all the way, why the frick would you bother to "bait" your audience?
The days when studios could have their cake and eat it too are over. Shit is different today, and by that I mean there's a disgusting place called Twitter, where the worst of this planet babbles all day long. I sincerely hope that Elon's sabotage campaign is successful.
>If you don't have the cojones to go all the way, why the frick would you bother to "bait" your audience?
Because yuribait is unironically what keeps yuri alive. If you're hinting at lesbians, never go all the way.
Bullshit. There are whole yuri magazines and manga that get anime. The only people who get upset about yuri getting confirmed are guys who shipped themselves with the girls. When I say that I'm not talking about western fans, I'm talking about people in the east. Western fans turn everything into politics while people in the east just want to see two characters get together.
Full yuri anime are mostly commercial failures and there are manga magazines for all sorts of niche in nipland.
If you want people to pay attention, bait as fair as you can go, if you want them to lose interest get the pair together.
>Full yuri anime are mostly commercial failures
Proof?
The only way you can have a ship together and make the same bank as “will they won’t they” stories is if the pairing is just that good which they usually aren’t, especially when it’s yuri.
>while people in the east just want to see two characters get together.
It's cute that you think this when the majority of yuri fans are just otaku that are deathly afraid of men. Why do you think most yuri LNs, manga, and anime is just copies of the latest fad but with the main guy genderswapped?
Yuri hasn't actually tried to be a real thing since the 90s. That's why all the good yuri is from the 90s.
>Why do you think most yuri LNs, manga, and anime is just copies of the latest fad but with the main guy genderswapped?
Most yuri manga are slice of life or OL stuff. It's not gender swapped Isekai stories.
You don't actually look at anything until it shows up on Dex do you?
Don't even read on Dex.
You definitely don't read anything direct then. Just last week Square put out a fricking yuri carbon copy of Yamada 999 and is already 9 chapters deep into a monthly yuri copy of Sono Bisque.
What does that have to do with MOST yuri manga not being isekai?
Isekai has been a fad for longer than a decade at this point in the post narou-kei world and there are shitloads of isekai yuri LNs and WNs that are basically just popular LN/WN that swapped the main guy for a girl. There's even a Tensura yuri copy even though Rimuru might as well be a girl already.
>Isekai has been a fad for longer than a decade
That's not the point. It's a massive fad now which is what we're talking about. Most yuri manga aren't isekai these days. Some artists followed the fad like every genre is doing but it isn't a majority.
That is the point though. You think isekai is the current fad when it's been a fad so long that it's stopped being a fad and just became a solidified fantasy subgenre, and the majority of yuri LNs and WNs right now do follow genderswapping isekai heroes or love interests. The current tend in yuri LNs is copying the fricking villainness and revenger trends from the late 10s.
You're so out of the loop that you still think it's 2013 when Konosuba and ReZero are everything. You probably didn't even notice that the actual fads are shit like the Taisho boom that happened after Kimetsu took over Japan and suddenly Taisho era series were popping up everywhere, including lazy yuri copies of Kimetsu, or how after Sono Bisque charted post anime we got a glut of "MC has a specialized hobby they're ashamed of and love interest drags them out by being genki and passionate" series across Josei and Seinen, including lazy yuri copies that didn't even bother moving it away from cosplay. Or that right now we're in the fricking Spy x Family copy fad.
Except Isekai exploded in popularity recently. There being Isekai series in the past doesn't change that.
>the majority of yuri LNs and WNs right now do follow genderswapping isekai heroes or love interests
No they aren't. You saying shit doesn't make it true.
The fact that you think 7 to 10 years ago is recent means you're either the newest of the newbies, or you're losing your mind and think 2013 to 2015 was yesterday. The big isekai franchises right now were either first published between 2009 to 2013 thanks to the boom of self publishing in Japan or got their anime between 2013 to 2016. Even Tensura, one of the largest isekai properties around, started being published in 2013 and got its manga by 2015.
But hey, you want to pretend that isekai's popularity is new which means you don't actually browse web novel publishing sites, don't look at web comi distributors, and don't read light novels. Normally I'd say good for you because that means you're still pure, but in this current scenario it means you're a fricking loser idiot that doesn't know shit because you singled out isekai when the original post that started this chain only mentioned fads and not specifically isekai.
You're also on the board that has isekai properties going all the way back to the 70s and you don't even realize you're b***hing about a very specific brand of isekai generally known as narou-kei which itself stems from a website that started in 2004 and managed to produce popular franchise like fricking oniichan jesus.
Fricking camping with fenrir started publishing the same year IBO was airing. Guess what? There are a bunch of yuri copies of that series too.
You sound like a real homosexual and are still missing the point. "MOST" yuri series are NOT Isekai. Either prove they are or shut the frick up.
And you're the moronic homosexual that honed in on isekai when this was never about isekai you dumb c**t.
You moved the goalposts in the first place when the exact words were
>Why do you think most yuri LNs, manga, and anime is just copies of the latest fad but with the main guy genderswapped?
Isekai is the biggest trend, dumb c**t. You can't even prove most yuri material copies the latest fad but wtth the main guy genderswapped. Because that isn't the truth. Even if it was the case which it isn't, everything does it. Everything hops on trends because people are trying to make money. But most yuri is still school girl stuff.
A trend that's over a decade old is an established subgenre you fricking moron.
A trend is a trend. People are still copying it because it makes money and is easy to write. No matter how you try to frame it, people are doing it in droves (trending towards it). Now come up with that proof.
All Gundam is designed to market at young boys for the purposes of selling toys, if they get any other market it's as an accessory to the main goal. You are moronic if you genuinely think that they at down and said to themselves "oh jee golly let's make a series for all of the maybe 1000 rabid yuriBlack folk out there and pour a ton of money, time, and effort into it"
>and they realized confirming a pair of lesbians as the lead characters in a show aimed at young boys wasn’t the smartest marketing idea.
See, that's where you are wrong, kiddo. Bandai aimed this shit at teenagers by their own admission, and that audience loves the homosexual shit nowadays. Why else you think Yuri On Ice became such a big hit?
The show that's actually aimed at young boys is the SD Gundam sub-franchise.
>If you stepped outside of your bubble for a moment you’d realize the majority of people on this planet don’t actually like homos
Then how/why Disney and the rest keep getting away with it, and become rich in the process? See, for instance, that Owl House garbage.
Disney's current stock price is at covid crash levels though.
>Then how/why Disney and the rest keep getting away with it, and become rich in the process?
Great objective source there, pal:
>FISM News is a conservative news source that approaches each story from a biblical worldview.
Also, correlation is not causation. I guess homeschooled morons don't get to learn basic logic.
>No rebuttal
Of course
>Why else you think Yuri On Ice became such a big hit?
Yuri on Ice was popular for a lot of different reasons, the homosexual was the least of that surprisingly. The reason people got into that was because outside of the homosexual moments it told a story that anyone could resonate with and it was also around the time where Yuzuru Hanyu was someone that people knew worldwide.
G-Witch has none of that. Yuri on Ice had characters being actual characters. Yuuri doesn’t immediately and unequivocally follow Viktor unconditionally in their relationship and though they do fight, Viktor made sure to reconcile with Yuri properly. Anytime Miorine was upset, Suletta had to deal with it while when Suletta was upset, Miorine left her to rot. Outside of that, it just did a good job of establishing proper stakes and because Yuuri lost, his victories felt a lot more earned than how Suletta never seemed to actually put in the work, rather she just told Aerial to up the Permet score. I really hate people trying to use that comparison because Yuri on Ice had something for everyone yeah but it also had a story that it wanted to tell and took it’s own approach to it. G-Witch is an amalgamation of things that didn’t blend, let alone work well together topped off with incredibly one note characters who you can’t feel much about because they were never put in any situation where it was dangerous and when it was, it was immediately either reverted or cleared up off screen. The only thing it has going for it is the ship, you could not care at all about Viktor and Yuuri’s ship and still enjoy Yuri on Ice. The same can’t be said of G-Witch.
>wasn’t the smartest marketing idea.
Yeah, the Gunpla sold soooooo poorly
Young boys HATE the idea of two girls kissing each other.
Are you sure you're not just a homosexual?
Again
Watching shitty dyke drama != jacking it to girl on girl porn.
>Young boys HATE the idea of two girls kissing each other
And you'd be completely right.
Business trip
If doujins are canon then Mugi from K-On is a coal burner.
She is
>decides to watch this out of boredom
>I know a good decade in advanced about blue haired girl committing flute rape and turning into pedals at the end
>hell, Monster Archives even intended to have a section on this back before it closed down in 2016
>presses play on aniwave
>the animation is on a shoe string budget
Amazing what nobody talks about until you actually watch it. But hey, there's a Black Getter cape in it.
Does this count the 70 billion they'll owe Comcast for Hulu in the next ten months?
What's humorous is that the budget for mecha action was in the OP.
And that despite it all, it got a spiritual sequel anime.
Do coomers just like yuri because there are no boys to be rivals for their self insert fantasy? Is that why so many weeb coomers chop their dicks off these days?
Yes, remember "Yuri/Lesbian is just a phase" is a jargon that those people still deeply believe. Its an extension of purity-homosexualry.
>there are no boys to be rivals for their self insert fantasy?
Haha, anon. These people see the supposed to be male self insert character as their own rival or insecurities because in their mind male=gay.
>Yes, remember "Yuri/Lesbian is just a phase" is a jargon that those people still deeply believe
Yurigays don't say that. Antiyurigays do. You can't even stereotype the people you're obsessed with right.
There are 2 type of yurigay these day.
One do love the aspect of lesbian relationship, the other one is basically waifu-gay with different name which what i and that anon refer.
They don't outright said it out loud, but they do believe it deep down.
It's much more apparent on idol or gacha stuff like Lovelive or FGO.
Those aren't yurigays. They're waifugays who don't care about shipping the characters together. They care about the character being boyfriend free. Actual yurigays ignore people like that.
>Those aren't yurigays.
It doesn't matter they enjoy yurishit
>who don't care about shipping the characters together.
They did, as long as the character that shipped with isn't male. That's why i use FGO as example.
> They care about the character being boyfriend free
Keep up with the time gramps, These people don't want their waifu talk to opposite gender AT ALL, thats why they enjoy and becoming yurigay.
>Actual yurigays ignore people like that.
These people ironically are the loudest along with troon
>It doesn't matter they enjoy yurishit
Not for yuri. Therefore they aren't yurigays.
>They did, as long as the character that shipped with isn't male. That's why i use FGO as example.
Anyone who pays attention to FGO isn't a yurigay.
>Keep up with the time gramps, These people don't want their waifu talk to opposite gender AT ALL, thats why they enjoy and becoming yurigay.
You keep up with the times. Yuri has had series without male characters for decades. This isn't new.
>These people ironically are the loudest along with troon
Nobody likes troons.
Anon in
referring to Coomers being attached to Yuri works and not talking about Yurigay.
You're right. I misread the conversation.
I’m just gonna say it: Calibarn should’ve been excluded. It deflated the hype Schwarezette got and essentially rendered that second fiddle. Suletta should’ve gotten the schwarezette, instead.
Scwsrzette should have stayed with Jeturk. Sulette stealing it or Guel handing it over would have been stupid.
Instead, Suletta should have piloted Pharact
I'm going to say it too: Calibarn's design is lame as frick. Looks like discount unicorn.
It looks nothing like unicorn.
It looks like Unicorn and Exia’s child.
It sounds like a discount unicorn
The launch theme is shameless
No. Calibarn was great and I got a good laugh at all the people losing their shit over all their wild conspiracy speculation being wrong.
>all the people losing their shit over all their wild conspiracy speculation being wrong.
It's a bit baffling that people thought Suletta would pilot a mobile suit designed by Gyoubu i.e. a Jeturk mobile suit
They just desperately wanted Suletta to do something cool since she was in her 4th depression at the time and nobody expected a super duper asspull gundam to be stored away in some janitor's closet
It’s not like Suletta hasn’t piloted other suits before. If you can show her using the Demi, then nothing’s wrong with her using Jeturk suits. Case in point…
Akihiro used a graze….
Setsuna used a flag…
Athrun piloted a zaku, and so on. Having gundam pilots use non-gundams or even other gundams isn’t new.
Kamille used the Mk. 2 before the Zeta, Roux piloted the ZZ alongside Zeta, and Amuro has piloted numerous Gundams and non-gundams throughout his life.
What makes you think they couldn’t do it here?
Every faction has its own dedicated designer. And JNTHED happened to be in charge of Suletta's mechs.
That doesn’t mean she can’t pilot anything else. The fun of a good pilot is being able to pilot anything, even if it’s not customized to them specifically. It makes it seem like a crutch if you can only succeed in certain suits while not being able to do much in others.
No, the truth is that JNTHED would be in charge of Suletta's MS, not Gyoubu. This is a meta thing.
It’s shit regardless and it makes Suletta seem weak.
And that's exactly the trap Suletta falls into. The most impressive thing she did in a non-gundam was some basic training exercises
yep they're straight
I love that they just forget Suletta scars or anything that could actually make this seem sweet or interesting but they’ll always remember the rings like their life depends on it. This has to be the blandest ship in all of gundam.
but my heckin tomato girl!!!!!!!!!!! tanuki!!!!!
With advancements in stem cell tech it's not that hard to get rid of scars.
Yeah, but the issue here is, Suletta absolutely still had them any they were less scars on the outside of her body and more so under her skin. Plus, this is, assumingly, before the ending where she still does have them so it doesn’t make sense.
She still has them but on only face
In most of the art shown upthread she doesn’t and why would it only be on her face to begin with? It’d be so much cooler and make a lot more sense for it to be down her arms considering where she usually held when she started being in pain.
Ok now they are just mocking the sister being trapped in a key chain, why is it she gets a fate only the worst villains would get in other shows and all the actual villains got off scot-free, it's so fricked up like what the frick give her a robot body Jesus tap dancing Christ.
The writer really didn't thinking hard enough about it.
I guess being resulted in a meme is what they aiming for.
What else was suletta going to put her in? Nothing else was available. It's like asking why Edward elric didn't put Alphonse's soul in a human shaped mannequin instead of a suit of armor. He didn't have one available
After how many years? I don’t think it’d be that hard to do anything other than sticking her in an inanimate object. Like that seems like the worst place to put her unless you really just want to carry her around all the time while she has no say.
She should have either died outright or stayed in a mobile suit (get rid of the neo zedong distintegration)
Or maybe, just maybe, maybe put her in a new prosthetic body, like the ones their company has been trying to make and were already being developed 20 years before during the prologue
Al at least could move and Ed made it a big motivation to get his body back.
Plus that was the start of the story, not the ending
Don't forget a big theme in the show WAS tranhumanism and prosthesis. And now the character at the forefront of that theme is a voice trapped in an inert object
Enjoy your business trip to hawaii
It's as official as Godannar's animator selling robot porn of their own IP on Comiket.
this whole marriage thing getting as big as it did was absurd. Imagine if any other trivial debates in gundam got this much heat.
>the zaku head zeta/Rick Dias/Hyakushiki are totally gundams
>nuh-uh they are not, the definition says so
>well in this supplementary material/interview/manual/article it said they were gundams all along
>well they don't feel very gundam like
>frick your gundam-phobic zeek ass!
>white devil worshipers are ruining the fandom!
>Zeta Gundam with a spare part is suddenly no longer a Gundam.
How absolutely moronic can you be?
>All they had to do was to put the fricking wedding or a fricking kiss on screen and none of this nonsense would've happened
Do you aware that TV Station is not allow to to air same sex kiss and wedding on family time slots?
>Do you aware that TV Station
>is not allow
>to to air
Go learn some fricking English, you worthless SEA monkey.
wfm isn't worse in terms of fandom its just that every generation has its psycho cult addicts that are completely obsessed with secondary aspects. for the oldheads amongst you, do you recall the weird shrines people had on geocities of the gundam wing MCs. that shit was so bananas. its just now with twitter the cultists have a louder voice and it feels like they are everywhere
A Wufei or Heero shrine sounds infinitely more based than a shrine to any of Gwitch's "Characters"
That shit was harmless. Having a character shrine doesn’t hurt anyone. Trying to force your homosexualry on others and crying when the big company says they’re going to cater to everyone and not just you is miles worse. Fandom operates entirely different nowadays, G-Witch is just a product of that.
I mean at least back then you had to put some effort out to find those "shrines" most normal people would just go and play Gundam web RPGs or play the rock paper scissors Toonami Game hours on end or just play Battle Assault with their friends. I used to be able to go into chat rooms and end up talking about how much we would want a gundam like armored core game.
If it feels like they are everywhere then they probably are. I can't go into any discussion on Twitter, reddit, hell even Instagram or tiktok without this shitty fan base talking about "ships" instead of the actual mobile suits, world or faction interdynamics. With the reaction and discussion around Gb***h Honestly I don't mind the Yaoi shit anymore, it used to annoy me when i would come across it but I would much rather have some "shrine" on some shithole corner of the internet I might stumble on or even never see than to immediately be inundated with shitflinging and crocodile tears about whos shipping who whenever I step foot into any conventional website about Gbitch. At least yaoi homosexuals had some decorum of modesty and let other people live.
>Twitter, reddit, hell even Instagram or tiktok
The absoluto state of Anti-G-Witchgays. Holy shit, go back.
When the next TV show returns to being 80% heterosexual 20% yaoi bait gundam will heal.
I really hope the next TV series is more traditional. I just want G-Witchgays to seethe and frick off. I really hope Bamco doesn't view them as an audience they want to keep pandering to, especially after this stupid wedding shit.
Just be glad G Witch only got 24 episodes
No chance. Have you not seen what is currently in production? A fricking Zeon apologist movie made by a bunch of Westerners starring a fricking dyke fighting again a Gundam.
Wait what? Is that what shitflix is funding?
I love her
Is that all you G-witchers care about? Shipping?
I can't believe they got away with so much being lifted from Izetta the last witch
I guess it wasn't popular enough but people sure noticed once Calibarn made the references obvious
It's even more shallow since Izetta was actually wheelchair bound and stuck like that instead of still in the process of recovering scot free like suletta was
I really hope the G-witch staff reveals that Suletta and Miorine put Eri in a cloned body or Robot body because it's a horrifying fate to be trapped in a keychain otherwise.
Did people really think Suletta was going to pilot the evil looking Gundam made by Jobburk Heavy Machinery?
Yeah, Sulettagays kept saying she's magically steal it or get it handed to her (waifugays don't understand character consistency)
It was more people who liked the schwarzette from the post season 2 gunpla lineup.
My favorite was that Lauda would give it to her as a thank you for saving Petra.
she needs to make kids, and save japan
It was the logical assumption once Aerial was taken away from her, until Calibarn was pulled from nowhere for her instead.
It had a couple of hints so it wasn't nowhere.
>a couple of hints
It had like one possible hint from the Permet registration numbers in episode 1, but that could've easily referred to the Lfriths too. Calibarn really came out of nowhere cause we just had to have a suit called Caliban somehow in an adaptation of The Tempest.
>but that could've easily referred to the Lfriths too
It couldn't because they weren't being used yet, as well as the idea that there was a machine that gave gundams their bad rep had to exist before the Lfriths, which ended up being Calibarn.
Most G Witch discussion on reddit is just "This show is good because I'm gay and it has a gay main couple!" it's just so shallow.
The show doesn't really do anything that another gundam didn't already do better or just as well with less focus.
The sense of style is kind of meh as well
The romance wasn't even great either. Sulu and Mio barely bounce off each other in S1. I don't even mind the concept too much but I hate yurigay treating this show as a 10/10 when it's just... Meh...
It's no strawberry Panic for sure. Heck Even Kannazuki no Miko had a better romance.
strawberry panic is a masterpiece
>Gundam thread
>mechs make up less than 5% of the thread
So the usual then.
What do I talk about? The mobile suit that gets destroyed in seconds without doing anything? Or the mobile suit that defeats the other mobile suit by turning its controls off? Or maybe the mobile suits that got disintegrated after appearing once or twice
I want you to have a nice day. I mean this sincerely.
Rather unless you are person who solely watches a show for romance, you won't find G-witch to be good. Side characters are severely lacking. It feels like the show wants you to care about Earth house but other than Chu-Chu never gave any of them substantial moments.
Jobkurk house characters got more substantial moments/shots and felt more like a true team than Earthkeks lol. It's bad.
The only mobile suit you can really talk about is the main mech.
And maybe Darillblade.
i like the zowort heavy
Darilbalde AI and Guel's tsundere relationship unironically mogs the hell out of every other character dynamic
I want to know what went in Bandai's mind when they saw every Gunpla not the MC's never sold and rotted on the shelves as well as them not checking out the older series.
Was it something like, "We fricked up."
>saw every Gunpla not the MC's never sold and rotted on the shelves
I'll take things that never happened for 1000.
I mean this is basically true for every series, the main characters’ suit always sells the most
Naturally but the other suits still get a good amount of love. I really doubt you'd get a metalbuild of any suit that isn't Aerial. Even Bael got one for IBO
>Was it something like, "We fricked up."
Nah, if anything actually went wrong they'd go "time to throw the show's staff under the bus" like they usually do.
The Demi, Pharact, Zowort, Dilanza, and Daribalde all sold like hotcakes though
It's literally just the Michaelis because it's a pretty dull design with a lame weapon.
>The Demi, Pharact, Zowort, Dilanza and Daribalde
Only the Pharact and Daribalde is that true.
The Zowort Heavy specifically sold very well because of Armored Core
Demi Trainer went out of stock a few times, didn't it?
I guess I could believe that for the one episode Chu-Chu shined.
I could see it selling out once but that's not because of it own show is it?
Other than the Aerial G-witch was a terrible platform to sell Gunpla but that's many modern Gundam Anime.
They sold well at first and then completely dropped off. He's a picture I took in Japan. Every electronics store or Gundam shop has looked the same for a few months.
>all these suits shelfwarming
>miorine figure nearly soldout
Absolute state of this franchise.
Just one angle, and the other kits are mostly a decade old. Plenty of Miorines and Sulettas warming shelves.
Sorry, captcha ate my pic.
This was the whole gunpla stock for a store btw, the Unicorn, Penelope, and G-Witch kits have looked exactly the same.
Nu Gundam and Aile Strike are just as filled as the WFM stuff. You just took that pic after a restock.
Or are you going to make some insane claim that WFM has been so toxic and driven off so many fans with it's gays that they can't even sell signature suits of Amuro Ray and Kira Yamato anymore?
i don’t think you can compare old suits being in stock to the latest show having so much left. that seems kind of a stupid comparison.
Jesus. That's exactly how Chris-chan went down.
I thought it was because he thought being a lesbian would get him more girls (lol)
VimGOD was too good for this world
Apparently the man got an entire illustration for himself but no one posted it yet.
Only natural, the followers of VIM are few in number
>No love confession
>No kiss
>No marriage
>No children
>Platonic friendship
Seems like the staff loves Jeturk.
>Hate WfM solely because I hate yuri
>Wanna get a Gunpla of this guy's suit because of how cool it looks
I fricking hate this.
You could always just become a show agnostic gunpla enthusiast. There are tons of those. I've seen some pretty good kitbashes of Jeturk HGs with Ameria MSs from G-Reco. One of Osaka's premiere gunpla builders did a Darilbalde x Space Jahannam custom build with Assault Pack parts from G-Self.
I don't like the show and absolutely despise the fans, but that didn't stop me from getting the lfrith, dilanza, darilbalde, zowort and schwarzette.
>did a Darilbalde x Space Jahannam custom build with Assault Pack parts from G-Self.
Show me
So basically:
>Don't watch show
>Buy figurine though
What can I say I really like the designs and the kits have great engineering as far
as hgs go.
Astray fans have existed for many many years anon I’m confident only 12 of them actually read it’s manga.
we read whatever parts we can get translated thank you very much
That's pretty apparent when they made audience care more about Jetkurk house side characters more than Earth house.
>>It's ALL GIRLS bro! That's what REAL MANLY MEN LIKE ME want. What do you want some guy in there for? You gay bro? You a cuck?
I really don't get this argument in what world does a guy watch a shitty lesbian drama, just because he likes to jack it to girl on girl porn?
Depends on character designs and how much lesbian action os going on.
G-witch would be one of the last shows id recomend for this though, due to the characters clothes being to boring/not fetishy enough, and no actual lesbian activities on screen.
That's how it starts, yes.
Yes. I mean, look at Madoka. The yurigays have been propping that show up for years. It was good when it came out because it was kind of a dark take on the magical girl genre, but holy Christ, the Madoka x Homura shippers will not fricking quit.
Yes and it made you wonder if its projection or just shitpost.
The idea is "If you enjoyed thing, you have to jerk to it"
You know what I hate the most? The lack of any memorable places outside of and even inside the school. I love metaphors and shit in artwork but the fact that they didn’t show not one good place for Miorine and Suletta to have as a wedding venue makes me sad. There aren’t any colony cities or specially protected areas on earth, it’s all just so bland and generic.
>school
>memorable
I already forgot
>"school" gundam
>Uniforms are bland
>No teacher characters
>Classes are irrelevant, the only class we see on permit is 75% of the way through the show
>very little would change if the student characters weren't students
>No focus on education as a theme
>Suletta wants to open a school (so she has something else to her personality beyond being lesbian) but it only gets brought up twice
>In retrospect it's obvious the only reason it's set in school is the intrinsic Japanese JK fetish
It also makes Suletta look like even more of a moron when she still clings to her idyllic delusions of how great school is despite how shit her own education was even without all the terrorism. Maybe if she actually had to reconcile her misconceptions and discuss with a teacher how a school should be run that could have actually been interesting but that would take a director who knows what he's actually doing. I wonder if Suletta's new schools will have a holder system too? She was quite a fan of it in the end lmao
If it's not in the show, it's not canon.
Literally every other Gundam series has artbooks with non-canon stuff in it.
Godteisen
this would be really cool with they had any fricking chemistry in the show. I can't take this relationship seriously.
Most of it is Suletta being sheepish and kowtowing to whatever Miorine is thinking, while Miorine bosses everyone around and doesn't consider what other people might be feeling. That's an alright CEO mindset, but not a good one for personal relationships. Suletta already experienced a bout of depression from Miorine not caring for her, and then Miorine cruelly throws it all away when she fixes Suletta's last duel in Aerial.
They're really not good for each other, and the chief thing keeping them together was just the requirement that the Holder marry Miorine. That's what Suletta kept falling back to and couldn't come up with anything substantial to say about their relationship together. Shallow and unconvincing.
why the frick did they backpedal on the statement of them getting married then?
They never backpedaled because they never confirmed it in the first place, for one. Someone said the quiet part out loud and Bandai wanted to keep it unconfirmed for the sake of the widest profit net, like most yuri shows. Cue Yuri seething as Bandai now focuses on the Gundam Seed movie..
>Bandai wanted to keep it unconfirmed for the sake of the widest profit net, like most yuri shows
Why? This doesn't make any sense from a commercial point of view. Where is the profit by keeping things ambiguous?
Because not everyone or everywhere agrees with yuri, my guy.
If that's going to be a consideration, then you don't make the relationship between the "Bride" and the "Groom" the series' main focus.
Well, thankfully the mom's revenge plan was the main focus, then.
Oh, look. Another one of those idiots that was baited by the Prologue.
You mean like 99% of people who watched it?
We knew what the story was going to be about before the prologue. Character designs had been published.
Then pray tell what was the purpose of the prologue?
Because yuri is trash
Corporations simultaneously control what you are allowed to think yet are too cowardly to do anything that risks profit number going down short term.
>Corporations simultaneously control what you are allowed to think
>Bandai freakin' said to come to your own conclusions.
>... yet are too cowardly to do anything that risks profit number going down short term
I'm mirin'.
the actual proof is how terribly they treat eachother, kek
Gundam had it's highest revenue earnings ever last year, going by photos of store shelves is just silly.
Half of last year's money was made before G-Witch even entered the market and Gundam has been breaking its revenue record every year since 2019.
What are you going to say next year when fiscal 2024 breaks the record again and they talking about Gundam Seed Freedom kits?
I would say Seed is still a draw, my point was Witch made money not that it's the only Gundam series to make money.
The image I posted is part of a larger report and I ain't gonna post the whole thing, I'm sure you can google Bandai's financial reports.
For toy sales it probably had little to no effect since Bandai did frick all with new kits for the movie, they made Doan's Zaku a P-Bandai exclusive for Pete's sake.
Unfortunately anon almost every kit is pretty much P-Bandai these days unless it's a flagship suit. Frankly I'm sick of it. Half the ReRise kits were P-Bandai.
Yet somehow P-Bandai kits still manage to make the toy charts in Japan and that makes me hate the Japanese consumers even more.
At this point there are more non-Gundam HGs getting put into stores than Gundam HGs. The fact that G-Witch is the first full HG line release since Gundam NT hurts my fricking brain. I would've said Hathaway but I'm pretty sure they just reprinted the Unicorn Gustav Karl instead of put out a Hathaway Karl.
Yeah it blows.
Well Bandai's President disagrees, I don't even like the show but people saying it failed are objectively wrong.
It's initial sales were good, that says nothing about its longevity. If they said that even now Aerial was stillselling well I'd agree with you but that isn't what was said.
Which still means that once the initial hype died down Aerial's sales weren't contributing as much as those lunatics spending a ton on the higher costing kits.
This is what I think people are failing to understand. Aerial initially sold amazingly for the line that it was in but after that initial sales period there hasn't been much to comment on and that sales period was a fraction of that fiscal year.
Anon, G-Witch did not make as big a dent as youre making it out to be because a frick ton of other series got stuff as well. Did you forget the expensive ass kits thst came out and were still selling better than the G-Witch HGs? I can't recall exactly but last year had much more than just G-Witch.
RG Hi Nu was still the top seller even though it's been like 2 years
>were still selling better
It's oranges and apples. One is selling "better" in numbers, whereas the other sells "better" in money. You have a bunch of cheap kits for a new audience, whereas the hardcore fanatics will shell out in excess of $1,000 for a luxury metal Nu and Sazabi. Which, by the way, aren't sold anywhere except through P-Bandai's website.
You saw the word highest sales and looked at nothing else in the sentence that actually described the time period and the specific line of said highest sales. Please learn how to read properly.
I'm sure the release of Cucuruz Doan's Island had no effect on this whatsoever
This episode made me realize why Bandai barely did anything to promote G-Reco. They're just run by cowards.
I had my suspicions about how they would tell WfM's story due to Kyoukai Senki/AMAIM: Warrior at the Borderline. With how WfM ended, I doubt I can expect a good mecha story from Bandai Namco Filmworks/Sunrise these days.
The only mecha story I'm enjoying so far is Synduality Noir even if it's tied to a video game that isn't out yet. Of course now, with the warning that it's only 12 episode so far (https://pixela.co.jp/vod/sundualitynoir-anime-muryou/), I have to be cautious with how it will end. Not onyl that, it isn't even Bandai Namco Filmworks/Sunrise (they produced it but the grunt work is Eight Bit).
That and 24+ episodes isn't enough for mecha anime these days because 50 episodes at minimum is needed for world building.
>I had my suspicions about how they would tell WfM's story due to Kyoukai Senki/AMAIM: Warrior at the Borderline. With how WfM ended, I doubt I can expect a good mecha story from Bandai Namco Filmworks/Sunrise these days.
I'm not quite as doompilled. Hathaway's Flash Part 1 was still great, but it was written by Tomino. After that? Probably back to mediocrity.
The only thing I fear are hefty rewrites of the novel. Hathaway is out to kill politicians in a time when Japanese politicians are getting assassinated in real life. Will that change anything for the movies? Probably not, though I wouldn't be surprised if the delay for Part 2 is being extra long because they don't want to release it close to Abe's assassination. But even if we are in for less than ideal changes, I would rather deal with them as they come than agonize over them preemptively.
Tomino himself also has other projects lined up and those should be good as well.
Hathaway is fine. The majority of the assassinations took place in movie 1. Movie 2s actual problem is that the Federation is going to completely annihilate an Australian city in massive war crimes and because of how well documented the Ukraine-Russo war is people actually saw that shit happening on streams and in real time.
Most of the delay for movie 2 was that they couldn't go to Australia, then most of the upper staff got caught up in projects like Murase with the Psycho Pass movie. G-Witch also had to pull from the Hathaway team a few times to even get some episodes finished making G-Witch Bandai's version of FFXIII.
Fair. I was only talking TV shows though.
Still, if KS/AMAIM and WfM end up with lackluster storytelling, I'm not confident of them doing the story for the Macross show they were approached to do. And before the restructuring into Bandai Namco Filmworks, Sunrise never righted these particular wrongs: a proper treatment of the story Ryosuke Takahashi wanted to tell with Blue Comet SPT Layzner and an expanded story for Mobile Suit Gundam F91.
>I'm not confident of them doing the story for the Macross show they were approached to do.
Macross is Big West. Sunrise is just working as the animation producer.
I stand corrected.
I've already said my peace over how Bandai Namco Filmworks/Sunrise will tell mecha stories through TV shows so I'll stop with my misgivings.
The problem is that the majority of anime writers are basically all like Dai Sato. They can write a concept but they can't actually write a story.
Most of the good screenplay and scenario writers retired or died during the 2010s. It's basically all on the directors to keep the stories reigned in but both KS and WfM had shitty directors and the problems showed outside of the writing as well. Just compare Murase and Kobayashi when they had similar material but presented them completely differently.
Compare how Hathaway and Gigi cling together while the Messer is lighting up like fireworks while it's being impaled to Aerial winning in episode 1 where it has the god rays and feathers. It's night and day in presentation and cinematography.
Compare the riot mobile suits at the protests in G-Witch to a singular Manhunter Jegan terrorizing Davao as Manhunters assault civilians.
You can argue budget, but the fact still remains that Murase's team also did a better job with similar scenarios in far less time.
And as for narrative, you know more about Davao in 45 minutes than you do about the school in G-Witch in 24 episodes.
You can even compare Hathaway's PTS induced mannerisms to Suletta's post-Mio betrayal depression and see how much more nuanced Murase's team was in their presentation.
I should've known the director being a total newbie would be a red flag.
How come nobody called it out in the staff reveal?
I mean, I'm sure the diference in skill is reflected in Murase and Kobayashi's rates.
The biggest hack here is the guy they got to direct the Unicorn OVA who thought downplaying the action in the final episode was a good idea.
Kobayashi is still a bigger hack considering how much of G-Witch was just reused Unicorn and NT scenes.
I would respond to you seriously and refute all of your points but you have demonstrated that you exist in a moronic bubble and view reality in a fundementally detached way from what it actually is. Go back to /leftypol/ or Twitter or leddit or whatever shithole you slithered out of idiot
>I would respond to you seriously and refute all of your points
Then do it. Refute the facts. I am more than willing to listen, if you have something to add that isn't hearsay or dumb anecdotal evidence. In the meantime, for better or worse:
>Nearly two-thirds of Generation Z is worried about the future of LGBTQ+ rights, including a quarter who say they are “extremely concerned,” according to new survey data from the market research firm Toluna.
>The survey, which collected responses from more than 1,000 Generation Z between the ages of 18 and 25, found that most young people in the U.S. are deeply anxious about the state of LGBTQ+ rights
>a fundementally detached way from what it actually is.
So, what is it "actually"? I don't know about a "/leftypol/" or anything of that sort.
Fresh off the drama press; Ohno posts a statement that he's in line with Bandai's official stance and that people should get over it already.
It's also a side-rant, following a Tweet where he was salty that the only things being shared and spread were SulMio images, and not that of the other artworks, such as his Chu-Chu image.
meh Chuchu was only interesting when she was racist but then they character developed that out of her
She wasn't even interesting, the only memorable thing about her is her one meme moment
I'm surprised any members of the staff would be stupid enough to say anything and lets be real only Okouchi or Kobayashi's words are the only ones that matter when it comes to the story.
I’m glad that this shits on everyone going
>the staff actually really really wanted to show it!!
Yeah it’s only one guy but I feel like that’s already enough to put a whole in that particular take on what happened.
It definitely shoots down the idea that the staff were entirely onboard with going full lesbian marriage, which was never realistic to begin with. Just severe projection and copium.
I agree; it's kind of wild watching the extreme coping going on between the lesbian fans as someone other than Bandai's execs show that they're not wholly on board with the idea; spinning it either as an organized attempt by Bandai to get the staff on the same neutral page, or just one upset staff member (who also happens to be the art director for Witch).
The cope now is that he was “at odds” with his coworkers and that “he was only an animation director not anywhere near the story.” The staff just wanted to make a good story and them making the doujin was just something fun that they wanted to do as a “what if” not to try and undermine what happened in canon or “make their own ending.” Doujinshi culture in the east isn’t like fic culture in the west where everything is a “fix-it” fic.
Man, Post G-Witch has been more entertaining than currently-airing G-Witch.
>even the staff think the yurigays are getting uppity
lmao
>just because you believe something doesn't mean you have the right to attack others for thinking differently
If that's the case, why did Bandai remove the marriage line from the interview? If it's just Kana's interpretation of the story, why delete it? You can't have it both ways.
Because people took it as an official statement and not just her opinion as the matter, hence why it was causing issues in the first place. Bandai knew what would happen and the editor fricked it up.
>hence why it was causing issues in the first place
First of all, why should it matter if some people interpret it as a official statement? If it's just their interpretation of Kana's authorial intent then it shouldn't matter. Second, the print interview was only out 1-2 days before the online version. There's no way Bandai could have reasonably assessed any affect it had on the fanbase.
Because Bandai knew Shipper's are batshit that only care about being pandered and would even attack people who against their shipping.
There has been so many cases of artist or staff being attacked just because they did follow shippers head canon.
Bandai simply didn't want those toxic behavior's was "endorsed" by them with their official statement
>even attack people who against their shipping
It's just Bandai and those artists' interpretation that they're being attacked. They really need to stop living such sensitive glass houses, especially when they criticize people for being "fixated" on an aspect of the show they personally weren't interested in but expect
>It being left in only ended up proving that they were right in wanting to leave it out to begin with
The trouble only started when Bandai walked back the statement. No one cared when Kana said they were married and people just brushed it off as some weird error when the text changes were discovered.
>but expect no criticism in return.
Computer ate the rest of the my post.
No, there was already trouble when people first found out that it was edited. If Bandsi had left it at that there still would have been a shit storm and a bunch of people wondering why it was changed. If they said it was an error people wouldn’t believe them and if they stood by the initial comment it’s like making an official statement that only that interpretation is right. They made the comment because they wanted to clarify that SuleMio marriage was an “if you want it you can have it, if you don’t you don’t have to” thing. I do agree that their wording fanned the flames and gave more outlets and fans ammo but staying quiet would have had those same fans and outlets harassing their staff for answers on it and that’s not a good look for the people they work with.
There were some people who immediately jumped the gun and were unreasonably angry right away but most people were just confused and wanted some clarification. If they ignored it, it would have eventually been swept under the rug and forgotten.
>everyone is free to have their own opinions on the show
>not the VAs though, they must have our opinions on the show
Yeah, VA's and their word get treated to a different standard. Pretty reasonable
I think if she had clarified more so that it was her interpretation it would have been different. The way she said it made it sound like Suletta’s development was intrinsically tied to the marriage being canon which is what Bandai didn’t want said because it sounds like less of an opinion and is more so stated as fact.
>because it sounds like less of an opinion and is more so stated as fact.
You could forgive her for that after watching the epilogue, but what do I know?
>the creators' intentions
But we don't know if it was the creator's intentions. This was the clearly publisher's. Perhaps Tsutomu is right and all of the staff really wanted the marriage to be up to interpretation, but that doesn't seem likely given the actions of at least some of them.
Yes you can forgive her hence Bandai trying to spare her the trouble and not letting her take the full force of the comment by herself. Her interpretation is correct but so is others regarding Suletta’s development.
>but that doesn't seem likely given the actions of at least some of them.
And what actions are those? You need to realize, shipping in Japan for the most part, doesn’t care about if it becomes canon or not because it’s about the journey to get there that matters. Yeah some of the staff like Sulemio and want to give them their own personal version of a happy ending but their bias does not change that the show left it open ended. More than anything, the staff want people to enjoy the story as a whole, they don’t want to force what they like upon others and instead let them enjoy it the way they enjoy it. That’s what both the comment in the doujin and Tsutomu’s comment are trying to get across.
Trying to appeal to everyone is cowardly. Many non-yuri fans even expressed this opinion when G-Witch appealed heavily to yurigays in the first episode, so it's hardly alien.
>the show left it open ended
That's the issue though. When the show ended, no one thought it was open ended. It only retroactively became open-ended when the statement was released.
>Bandai trying to spare her the trouble and not letting her take the full force of the comment by herself
I almost guarantee nothing would have happened to her or her reputation if her comment about the marriage stayed.
But in the end Bandai did not denied everything.
It's really should bother people because it's just interview
Any sensible person would see Bandai final statement as nothing essential has been changed and move along.
>not the VAs though, they must have our opinions on the show
Well duh, They were promoting Corpo's work after.
>Bandai final statement as nothing essential has been changed and move along
It's frustrating because it opens the door to a number of bad faith interpretations. Imagine if Bandai came out and that said that Mika's son being his was actually "up to interpretation". It would invite a number of unpleasant NTR posters who insist that Atra cheated on him with another man. I'm not some extreme yurigay that thinks it was homophobic censorship or similar nonsense, but it was just a moronic decision all-around and deserves some criticism.
The VA's have no control over the writing, so not really. Just like the animator is entitled to his opinion.
>It would invite a number of unpleasant NTR posters who insist that Atra cheated on him with another man
Here’s the thing about that though. People can interpret things and still be wrong but they’re free to interpret it however. If someone believes a cuck fantasy, that’s them. If you look at the show and get something different that’s fine too. If the creators intentions aren’t clear to you, they aren’t shunning you by saying you’re wrong, they’re saying if you have enough to back it up, you can believe whatever you want.
Because they didn’t want to make an official statement.
>There's no way Bandai could have reasonably assessed any affect it had on the fanbase.
It’s called foresight. They knew what would happen if that part was left in hence the intention to leave it out. It being left in only ended up proving that they were right in wanting to leave it out to begin with. No one’s saying you can’t think that they’re married, you just can force that thought onto other people which is the issue they wanted to avoid. They want the show to speak for itself without any outside or after comment.
It's the fact that the statement wasn't clarified to be an personal stance in the first place, so Bandai had to make it clear that it wasn't the stance of the company, just an individual, and to avoid confusion, would just outright retract the statement. Just like how most other companies would distances themselves from the statement of an individual employee if they're caught saying something contrary to the current preferred corporate stance.
Bandai didn't add a statement that it was just Kana's personal opinion. They removed statement from the interview and tried to pretend that it was never said.
I don’t think they wanted to leave her out to dry like that. They were trying to cover their asses and hers as well because if they said that was just her opinion on the matter then it paints her as being someone who doesn’t read a company’s intentions well and will say things that cause trouble. That kind of person would be seen as difficult to work with.
Bandai didn't want to confirm or deny in the first place and merely kept up with it.
This show is going to be remembered more for meta-drama than it's own substance
Please it never had any substance to begin with
>Prospera survives but as a punishment she's tetraplegic for life
>Suletta ends up recovering
>Ericht being a literal keychain is a good ending
I read somewhere G-Witch's treatment towards disabilities was supposed to be progressive but I can't see it
for a show about prosthesis and transhumanism giving Eri this gag ending of being trapped in an accessory and apparently being fine with it is kind of distasteful
Just another proof that yuri baiting is way more successful than full blown yuri, frick off
Also frick off anyone who says that bandai are cowards, if it was a full blown yuri from the beginning we wouldn't be getting close to the amount of sulemio fanart compared to now
10 fricking years and all I got was Yuri baiting, an unicorn-esque ending and lots of cool designs that barely did shit because they decided to make a GM with Nu-gundam funnels as the main MS
They announced in the first episode that yuri marriage was commonplace. Anyone with a brain knew it was going the yuri route and virtually everyone agreed that after the last episode they were married. Bandai walking back on the marriage literally gained them nothing.
>cowards
It was obviously a PR frickup at every stage.
the entire show was a frickup at every stage
besides Gyobu/ Inata's mecha designs