>haha guess what viewer, this character was actually the older version of this other character haha
Well if you wanted it to be a surprise maybe YOU COULD HAVE TRIED NOT FRICKING CASTING ACTORS THAT LOOK SO UNCANNILY IDENTICAL THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE WHO THEY ARE
>wahh the casting was TOO good
get a grip
>good casting is bad actually
Whatever moron
i didnt know adam was the main guy (cant remember his name now) the lady with hetero chromia had that medical condition to help the viewers to know who she is
Jonas.
i liked the first 2 seasons a lot but by the 3rd season it felt like they were just adding layer upon layer of bullshit and convolution just for the frick off it
after season 1 it was produced by a woman only. I assume the creative differences watered down the ideas.
>he thought it was convoluted
filtered
>self reporting brainlet
They fricked up by adding in 'extra worlds', you just know they had run out of ideas when it came to the time travel aspect.
it's called the many worlds interpretation. A solution to the grandfather paradox is that a new world is created
That's not a solution to the grandfather paradox.
The trifecta worldliness bs was definitely not MW. It was its own brand of weirdness, more of a wiggly-wobbly timey wimey curse that hard science.
i dont know how much i saw but i never completed the series
but one thing that was so jarring that i couldnt forget about was how that father who got stuck in the past and lived in a retirement home and was treated as a madman, while he literally could've nostradamus himself into credibility by just saying that shit like 9/11 happened
after i learned about that it was always present in my mind and it was such a plot hole it kinda ruined the series for me
Anon, he was stuck before he was even born and he was a jaded butthole in his youth. By the time anything big happened like Chernobyl, he'd have already been there decades.
na i dont buy it, it doesnt make sense, it is so far removed from what an actual human being would do in a similar situation it kills immersion
the writers couldnt have him do shennanigans and become like prophet or anything though, they had to completly pacify him so that the protag can go see him at at the old folks home or whatever i dont remember exactly what happened
>it doesn't make sense because i don't like it
Anon, he was there, knew shit about his timeline and was thrown into a loony bin in the 50s where drugs and electroshock were norms AFTER attempted murder of a child.
Even if he had anything to say, no one was listening. What's he going to say? "In thirty years, a nuclear power plant is going to melt down, you have to let me out!"
>no one was listening
>No one would take him seriously
how about him making 50 accurate predictions would they start listening then
he wouldnt know enough things to guess them accurately, its not like he has access to google to know the exact date and times important things happened, especially since he was transported way into the past before he was even born. how many things are you aware of 20 years before you were born that you could accurately tell someone who already thinks youre crazy and beating the shit / drugging the frick out of you every time you talk?
i know plenty of shit from before i was born, not in detail no, but enough to blow peoples mind
Anon, tomorrow you wake up locked up in a mental institute. It's December 1984. Without the benefit of being able to Google things beforehand to prepare, what things are you going to tell them to convince these people that unlike every other mentalist in the place you really are a time traveller. Remember, these must be things that will happen relatively soon, because you're going to be drugged and electroshocked until you stop ranting about your time traveller delusion and after a while that sort of stuff really impacts your ability to think coherently
>frantically googles "1984 car models" so he can wow the psychiatric staff with his knowledge of the future motor industry only to realise it's December and he's just badly describing cars that were released in the previous year
>what do you mean i cant buy stocks from within the hospital? i have valuable information that will make me rich! ... in 30+ years
Maybe. The easiest way to understand Ulrich's situation is to imagine yourself in an old mental hospital as an employee, doesn't matter what your occupation is. Would you really be interested in digging deeper into a supposed murderers ramblings if he started talking to you?
Even in therapy sessions it would be madness for a doctor to start listening to him because it would go against everything the doctor's there for. He's supposed to calm a patient down, not engage in his delusions. Think One flew over the cuckoo's nest. Ulrich is just another patient to them and it was not a good time to be in a mental hospital for anyone, let alone a convicted murderer.
>be old madman at loony bin
>9/10 2001
>"tomorrow two planes will crash into the world trade center"
>whole mental staff erupts into laughter at the crazed madman
i dont know man, i feel like things would be very different at that hospital on the 9/12
He would have been extradited to Guantanamo and had his balls shocked forever.
ok thats funny
but for real though, he couldve done these predictions way earlier and for much less significant things and people would start treating him as a prophet
If only he wasn't dead by then. He was locked away in the 50s (when in his 40s) and was already a very old man in the 80s when he tried to abduct young Mikkel. Pretty sure he was dead by 2001.
you're missing the point
all im saying is if you're smart about it you can easily sway people to believe your story that you are a time traveller or at the very least become rich buying IBM stock or whatever
doesnt make sense to just sit around and mope and become crazy
Yes, he was going to buy stock with no money while locked up in an asylum after trying to kill the son of the guy building a nuke plant.
It's fine if you want to have your funny fantasies, but stop using them to say the story doesn't make sense.
was he sentenced to indefinite psychiatric care? i admit my memory is a bit fussy here
He was in isolation when Hannah went to see him. We only see him out with others in the 80s when he's basically gone mentally and physically.
Wasn't he still in closed observation when his wife found him? I remember her mom saying something that he's still in the "geschlossenen" which means lock-up.
Yeah, he was still confined to the institute. And then his wife finds him 33 years later, but gets her head bashed in by her own mother before the escape.
Other than 9/11 what significant events in the 50s, 60s, 70s, could he predict? He was not a learned man. He was a punk in school. He probably did not know a lot, they would not have listened, and as it looks he probably just gave up anyway.
you could predict jfk, watergate, etc, but it would take decades for your predictions to come true
>you could predict jfk, watergate
by that time he has been getting electrocuted daily for decades lmao
you need google to do what you are thinking, anon. It is not possible otherwise.
simple things
even if he's an idiot im sure he would remember details from his favorite sport, or if he's into cars make predictions about that
at the very least he would become very rich
>at the very least he would become very rich
from the padded cell of a mental hospital? how exactly is he going to do that?
was he really sentenced to indefinite psychiatric care? i feel like i shouldve remembered that, like the old folks home he's at is volentary
No, I watched this a couple weeks ago, it’s very much involuntary. Egon goes to visit him an an insane asylum. Egon can only get in by pretending he’s still a cop. After Egon tells Ulrich about Mikkel, Ulrich has to escape the asylum but cutting the fence or something, which immediately triggers a police manhunt.
he was arrested for murdering some children then rambled about being from the future and got moved to a psych ward, of course he isn't allowed out, they didn't explicitly state it but its clearly implied by him still being there, the doors all being loocked and guarded and that his wife had to plan to break him out
there really isn't much point in talking to people who think trivia knowledge of what various car models are going to look like would translate to money.
my Black person
dont you think knowledge of stocks would translate to real world wealth?
knowing about car models doesn't really translate to stocks, now does it. a lot of what are considered classics today didn't really sell well when they were new.
how many people in psychiatric institutions are allowed to trade in stocks?
All the ones in anon's fantasies. Forgetting the fact that he was broke and had no identity, of course.
we are all forgetting about the windon stock exchange for psychiatric patients outreach programme
I like this time travel book Anubis Gates, where a guy gets transported to the early 1800s London and immediately assumed he can use his future powers to make himself rich. Then he realizes he doesn’t know how to build a computer or a radio, and all he remembers about history is that Napoleon eventually loses the war, but he can’t find anyone that wants to place a million pound bet on it.
Despite being accurate people would still pin it on a lucky guess that would be discussed later on in places like Cinemaphile. Was he really a time traveler, alien, a ghost? Just lucky? We and especially psychiatrists just don't believe in magic or time travel by default, it's not reliable and as I said, siding with a mentally ill patient is a career suicide for someone in psychology.
I was actually surprised that he was still alive in the 80's. He was deemed as a child murderer and he probably got beaten down numerous times by the staff when "no one wasn't looking". Child killer is probably one of the worst titles you can get in a place like that.
That would be more harder than you think. No one would take him seriously and most would forget about his ramblings the second they see another rambling patient. Most people aren't as perceptive nor do they have as good of a memory as you think.
And even if someone did listen to him, they'd most likely back off after a while because they'd be concerned about their job and status. Then there's policies because it's a mental hospital. The only chance Ulrich has is writing several notes and even then they'd take that away from him because "it feeds his psychosis" or some shit.
we see guns fail to fire if pointed at a character that isnt supposed to die yet, they explicitly state the world is causing certain things to happen or not, so i can only assume that either Ulrich is incapable of doing that or everyone else is incapable of listening because it would change things
>we see guns fail to fire if pointed at a character that isnt supposed to die yet
It only applies to Adam and Eve (in her world) because of the grandfather paradox.
Punished Ulrich: a man denied his sons and pussy
I'd probably do the same thing to spite the world. Only after 9/11 would I reveal my powers.
Honestly yeah, I think it's incredible and maybe in my top ten or top 15 but the third season, despite having some great stuff like the mirrored new world at the school etc, but it gets a bit much. Kinda overstays its welcome. I just did a rewatch but I stopped 3 episodes short of the finale
yeah
I liked that they almost exclusivly cast young attractive germans
It was a nice respite from the reality in my german city where people are either old orugly moronic rapefugees
that ginger bird was my favourite
The casting for the old cop was spot on.
Best casting across the three timelines and by a wide margin
Ulrich did NOTHING wrong to deserve this
For me, it was teen Regina
Helge was convinced by Noah. Noah was convinced by Adam. If I recall correctly
>Helge was convinced by Noah. Noah was convinced by Adam. If I recall correctly
yeah but for what purpose
To complete the cycle and sacrifice the QT1.34 (Marta)
Or more accurately, her kid. Adam’s son, with the weird lip.
>show does a great job casting actors for every other character
>middle age and old martha looks absolutely nothing like her
>they actually had to give her a scar so people make the connection
ich habe Sneed gepostet
in deine welt
und in meine
einem endlosen Kreis
>mfw i go back in time to save my son and end up stuck in a mental hospital for 30 years
>mfw I go back in time to frick the woman you're cheating on my mother with
i might have missed it but why was the woman that adopted him drugging him?
They thought that Mikkel was a special needs kid with more than a vivid imagination so they drugged the frick out of him. It was pretty fricked.
He was the only one I truly felt bad for. It was even worse that Katharina went back, found him, and made plans to rescue him. All to leave him hanging cuz her mom murdered her.
I dunno, Elisabeth had it pretty bad
so what happened to his eye? (and arm in the other world)
He saw his brother dressing as a woman to have sex with men and decided to throw bleach in his eyes but didn't have enough for both of them.
are those glasses supposed to give you rudimentary sight in that blind eye? is that a real thing that exists
No, it serves the same as an eye patch, but looks better when you need glasses for the seeing eye.
oh cause it looks like a frickin cyborg eye
In the past it was just black plastic lense, but it’s better to block out the sides too. Especially when the damaged eye has some partial vision. And of course it’s better for an aesthetic reason, doesn’t attract as many stares as a gruesome wound or gross fricked up eye.
Also sometimes damaged eye can cause photophobia too, it’s very unpleasant and can cause migraines so it’s better to block as much light as possible
It was hurt while helping cover up the nuke plant accident.
It serves as a thread in the "new" universe at the end because we know the same thing happens in the new world and that the loop is still happening.
>not a single black character
>cant recall seeing any black background characters
how did they get away with it? it wasnt even made that long ago
There's not that many black people in Germany, especially outside major cities.
>implying racial accuracy matters to people making tv shows
germany doesn't give a frick
Consdiering their next work was choke full of diversity it's ahrd to say if they decided on it themselves or Netflix forced it upon them.
It’s *chalk full
It’s chock.
there was 1 black in the background once and 1 or 2 turks having lines
ruined the show for me, thanks
brainlet here, why were Noah and helge killing those kids?
They knew they were stuck in a terrible loop of excessive misery and pain. Adam convinced them the way to stop it was only at a certain point (the point of the apocalypse). His actions at that point would undo everything to make a better world.
However, in order for that to happen, all these terrible things had to occur.
>antsgonist holds out a gun
>no one makes any attempt to do anything even after antagonist fires
the utter inaction of the characters was so annoying
I didn't like any of the time travel stuff only the love story between a boy and his aunt and the cool raincoat.
You sound like a child. Probably best if you stick to Disney threads.
mf really saw a 13 year old and thought "im gonna impregnate her some day"
literally me!!
The old/young casting in this show was so fricking good. There were only a couple instances where the actors didn't believably represent their older/younger selves.
Overall, this was very kino. The last season was getting carried away with sci-fi but still tried to keep track of its loose ends so its ending wasn't as egregious as Lost.
the main timeline apocalypse future is just straight up S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
no, its pripyat
uhh thats what I just said? only with the added particle time physics anomaly
dark and stalker derive inspiration from the same source, chernobyl. the game is more a direct copy of the movie.
Anon, Chernobyl was not a movie... it really happened
That was real? I saw that movie, I thought it was bullshit
this movie moron
that movie doesnt exist
lol at stalker being influenced by Chernobyl. The movie was shot 7 years before Chernobyl happened. Also it’s a book adaptation and the book was published in 1972 you moron
wasn't talking about the movie until the end of the post.
My bad, I thought you were talking about the film.
>starts tearing up and crying for no reason in every scene
This shit got old fast
This sucked. The 11 22 63 sucked. The haunting of hill house sucked.
Stop recommending shitty mini series.
The new Transformers Animated series is out, that might be more up your alley
What about the French delegation though?
Evil filth. Shit like that is supposed to be illegal yet it's still made. Huh, wonder why they israelites running the studios so blatantly flaunt the law?
what are you on about m8? how is it evil filth?
he's a schizo that thinks smoking is satan.
pink nipples
mein schwanz
I have pink nipples, Greg. Could you coom to me?
I thought the show was great, but I got kinda bored with Jonas and Martha by the end. Noah and Elisabeth were my favs, but Ulrich's tragic life was well done too.
>use your one phone call on jp morgan
>they laugh at you and hang up immediately
now what?
>attempt to wow the staff into giving you a second call by predicting models of cars that haven't been made yet
>find out you can only poorly describe them
>wait till you see the porsche 911
>what about it?
>it's red and . . . curvy I think, no wait some are not red
>ok sure, when does it come out?
>in the 80s
>dude it's 1952
Should have ended with Adam and the chick causing the car crash and repeating everything.
thats exactly what i expected to happen during that scene
Everything does repeat, anon. As Claudia says, she tried to alter things, but everything still happened. In different times or in different ways, but it all still happened.
The show ends telling us that's all happening, just in different times and in different ways. The yellow raincoat, the storm, the power drop, Torben's eye and Hannah saying she's going to name the kid Jonas.Different times and in different ways.
It has to happen because of the grandfather paradox. The clockmaker making the time machine is the *real* timeline. Jonas and Martha alter it. But they have to exist for that to happen. In other words, all Claudia did was create another loop, different than before, but a loop nonetheless.
claudia couldn't change anything because she was trying to change shit from within their timelines, which just caused more timelines to form, where both the original and altered both existed simultaneously. preventing the car crash prevented the creation of those timelines, which only existed in the first place because tanhaus destroyed his own universe trying to make time travel possible.
He didn't destroy his own universe, anon. It was still there, which is how she was able to see him to begin with. It is all one timeline, branched off from from that specific point.
The show goes out of it's way to eliminate causal loops. Jonas and Martha stopping the car crash itself initiates a causal loop, hence, the ending. Hannah has the same visions and deja vu/glitch in the matrix that Jonas and Martha had.
nah, it was one timeline that was paused split and then it goes on.
>causes the apocalypse in your path
I don't even remember what happened in this show.
???
its irrelevant if you recognize them
Cultists?