Battle droids and clone troopers were complete kino. It's funny how for as much as people shit on the prequels for being moronic, literally no one gives a shit about anything that came from Disney Wars, aside from MAYBE Kylo Ren.
The story might have been shit but by god were the vehicle designs peak aesthetic, especially the republic ones for me. Its amazing how much the sequels dropped the ball on that aspect considering how much money is to be made from moichandising
The aesthetics and also the sound design - from the throaty diesel chug of the podracers, to the choppy whirr of the double-bladed lightsaber, to the sweet sweet hum of the LAATs. The whole prequel trilogy was fricking sound porn.
That's because for all their faults the prequels had love and soul in them, plus a lot of genuinely good ideas hidden behind the shit. The sequels are nothing but pandering woke soulless corporate cashgrabs made by out of touch narcissists
There isn't anything wrong with that, and what you said can be said about everything character that was expanded upon in some capacity either games, tv, or books. Pre disney star wars was really cool
It's great that each galactic war throughout SW lore had unique characteristics separate from each other.
Disney Wars committed the unforgivable sin of not only copying the OT galactic war, but not feeling like a galactic war at all when all the First Order was up against was the 1000 members of the Resistance that had miracle juice on their side. EU galactic wars blows it the frick out.
Don't forget that they can only continue their weird religion by indoctrinating extremely young children into it and training them for decades. Oh and they start the kids on lightsaber combat at 7 or so and see no problem with sending teenage padawans into combat.
Then there's their hilarious doctrine of having no attachments, finding balance, and being humble. All that while living in a giant expensive complex on a planet that is 100% soulless city. You'd think the Jedi Order's main temple would be hidden away on a remote planet and be pretty simple and not ostentatious at all.
I like to think those giant pillars at the front gate of the Jedi Temple exist because once upon a time the Sith just rammed their door down with a troop ship and slaughtered the place.
>when all the First Order was up against was the 1000 members of the Resistance that had miracle juice on their side.
And then the very next movie we went to this
God what a waste of fricking time that trilogy was
>cavalry charge across the side of a star destroyer
Motherfricker it's a spaceship, just rotate that shit 45 degrees and spill them all off, don't send more troops to fight them that's fricking moronic
Wasn't the whole point of Sheev hiding his super-duper star destroyer mega fleet on Storm Planet that nobody could get there because of all the storms or some shit?
Nothing in this movie makes any fricking sense.
>ugh god leia's on the phone again, just going to let that ring out, she probably just wants to nag me for support again >YO SHIT IS THAT MY BOY LANDO FRICKIN' A, WHATCHU NEED PLAYA
>useless droids that are literally designed to be fodder for the protagonists and faceless CGI clones no one has any reason to care about are "complete kino"
prequeltards are delusional
Kylo Ren is just Jacen Solo-lite wearing Not!-Revans helmet. He's a complete bastardization and his name makes no sense. Why the frick would Leia and Han name their kid after Kenobi?
>They shouldn't be a problem >"Oh they shouldn't be a problem? Now I'm really invested." >Cuts to George Lucas saying the droids are useless and Jedi cut through them like butter >"Frick you."
Probably my favourite plinkett moment.
I still, to this day, have no idea how the Trade Federation and Dooku's separatists figured into Palpatine's power grab. He just had Vader kill them all, and that made him emperor somehow.
I get that he was mainly using them to cause the chaos he needed to seize power. But it didn't make much sense to kill them all off since they would do anything he said. He could have had them accept defeat or make a peace deal. But I guess Lucas just wanted a reason to have them gone since they're not in the OT.
I still, to this day, have no idea how the Trade Federation and Dooku's separatists figured into Palpatine's power grab. He just had Vader kill them all, and that made him emperor somehow.
The Empire basically nationalized all of the corporations that funded/were apart of the CIS so there was no need for them any more.
How are they loose ends? They work for him and are extremely loyal. They did anything/everything he asked and would kill their grandmas for him. There's literally no one that could do a thing to Sheev if they were to remain alive. And again, just have them make some sort of deal for peace then they accept a show punishment. Done. And he still has loyal servants and rewards his followers. Turning Sheev into the guy who always kills the people who help him, yet somehow always has a line of eager people ready to help, was utterly moronic.
Nobody fricking knew he ran the CIS and after the deadliest war in galactic history, it absolutely makes sense he wouldn't give some show punishment to the separatist leaders.
Palpatine was pulling the strings for decades prior to episode 1. He was only known as Sidious to the Trade Federation and only known as Palpatine to the Republic.
He gained position with Nute Gunray and the trade federation because of his ties with Plageuis. And acted as an advisor.
Prior to the invasion of Naboo, he was just a Senator with little actual power. But through the dark side of the force, he was able to coerce other Senators and stoke the Trade Federation whilst also encouraging them to wage war and start a blockade on Naboo.
Once the Republic won the battle of Naboo on his leadership, he was democratically voted as Supreme Chancellor. At that point, he could further mistreat the Trade Federation and accelerate the war to a point where he would become a dictator on both sides, being given emergency leadership privileges. Once he had absolute power of both sides, he sent the Republic army and Vader to kill the Trade Federation leadership and Jedi so that no one could object to him creating peace as an Empire and combining his two rival factions.
The only two characters that could see both sides were Qui Gon and Dooku. They were the protagonists of the prequels, and both died. Jedi masters like Yoda and Mace were just as evil as Palpatine, running an army of slaves for control based on their own ideologies. The only time the prequels could have found resolution against Palpatine was when Dooku extended his hand out to Obi Wan on geonosis to join him. Obi Wan was just as blind as Yoda and rejected him, then sent his Jedi to be slaughtered.
>running an army of lobotomized human clones and children abducted by their families against a faceless, robot army because they want to unfairly tax civilizations that survive on manufacturing is a thing the good guys do
Don't forget that they can only continue their weird religion by indoctrinating extremely young children into it and training them for decades. Oh and they start the kids on lightsaber combat at 7 or so and see no problem with sending teenage padawans into combat.
Then there's their hilarious doctrine of having no attachments, finding balance, and being humble. All that while living in a giant expensive complex on a planet that is 100% soulless city. You'd think the Jedi Order's main temple would be hidden away on a remote planet and be pretty simple and not ostentatious at all.
Yoda and Mace and the jedi weren't evil. They were complacent, however, and grew to a point where they didn't do as much good as they should have.
As for dooku, I always wondered if he was genuine when he asked Kenobi to join him. He definitely hated the jedi and probably saw through the bullshit of the war, but he was also already a sith. He was most likely too far gone to have done any good and would have ended up trying to kill kenobi anyways since kenobi was infallible.
And Palps had anakin kill the Cis leaders so he could strike another final win for the "republic" that would lead to more support for the empire.
>The only time the prequels could have found resolution against Palpatine was when Dooku extended his hand out to Obi Wan on geonosis to join him. Obi Wan was just as blind as Yoda and rejected him
I was kind of annoyed at how stupid Obiwan seems in Episode 2. He's supposed to be this super wise old man in the OT. Maybe Christopher Lee's acting amplified it though.
>how stupid Obiwan seems in Episode 2. He's supposed to be this super wise old man in the OT
You answered your own question. He wasn't the wise old man yet, that was the entire point of his character arc. The events of the PT are the reason he became that.
I think Palpatine's original plan was for the trade federation to succeed on Naboo and to let the situation escalate to the point where the senate would grant him emergency powers to create the clone army which he preemptively ordered. This didn't work out so Palpatine had to adjust the plan and had his new apprentice Dooku use his political connections to start a galactic secessionist movement to justify the clone army.
He was elected to chancellor halfway through the movie and the first thing he does is try to convince Padme not to go back and save her people and he sent Maul to stop her when she did anyway. Remember in Episode 2 they say that the clone army was ordered 10 years ago which would have been around this time.
He wasn't elected until the end of the film, he was just a nominee at that point. Anyway, he only was able for the position because Padme called for a vote of no confidence in the current Chancellor. In his plan she would still have been on Naboo as a captive.
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None of this contradicts what I said. The clone army was already ordered by then as per AOTC. When the first crisis he engineered to justify the creation of the clone army got resolved he had to engineer another one.
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But the clone army was only ordered ten years prior to AotC, they wouldn't be ready until ten years later.
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And in that time the Naboo crisis could've easily escalated to the point where the senate would be willing to grant Palpatine emergency powers even without a decade of Sheevkaku
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I'd argue that the Naboo crisis could have gone either way and Palpatine would have got what he wanted i.e. the Trade Federation going rogue and declaring a confederacy. >Trade Federation is defeated at Naboo, Sidious convinces them the Republic won't support them & goads them into forming the CIS >Trade Federation takes over Naboo, Sidious feeds into their ego and convinces them to continue expanding their power until the Republic sees them as a threat, leading to the CIS again
You have to remember that Palpatine was playing both sides of the war, his plan was always for it to escalate to a full-blown secessionist movement given enough time.
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Palpatine was the senator for Naboo at the time, if his planet's queen was being held captive by an unsanctioned army outside of the Republic he could have moved for a vote of no confidence in the Chancellor just as easily since Valorum was content to sit on his hands and ignore the whole invasion.
If anything, having Padme there to declare it herself just gave it more weight.
Does anyone actually like the rebel alliance?
Empire has a god tier aesthetic for ground forces, cool if impractical vehicles, iconic space ships, and the fighters besides the basic TIE are fantastic.
Republic is similar to the Empire but ironically more "human" despite being clones, plus the combat-gear Jedi are awesome and made for some cool interplay between the two vastly different cultures.
Confederacy troops, ground vehicles, and starfighters look amazing and are very visually distinct from the other factions. Being led by a council of alien merchant lords was cool too. The only un-cool thing vehicle was Dookou's stupid bike.
Who likes the rebels? The A-wing and Snowspeeder were cool I guess. Their starships look like dog turds and their infantry look like they all bought the same spirit Halloween costume. And they're never seen doing anything cool on the ground, the fricking Naboo guys were more successful troops.
roger roger
If you have sex with a B1 battle droid is it gay? They have boy voices, but maybe they're really girls? I mean, it's not like they have penises.
They are asexual. Not the woke kind either.
It is like having sex with your toaster or hairdryer.
>It is like having sex with your toaster or hairdryer.
sounds hot
>hairdryer
Talk about a blowjob!
If you remove the whole situation conspiracy thing the CIS were the good guys
Even without Sheev they’re still basically a faction of mega corporations.
Megacorps in Star Wars are based though, who wouldn't want to work for Sienar Fleet Systems?
im sold
>BOYS
>WHAT IF A TIE FIGHTER
>BUT ALSO A STAR DESTROYER
>WITH A SUPERLASER
>*raucous clapping throws up clouds of spice*
The conflict is between megacorps and a corrupt and failing republican federation
There's no good guy in that scenario even without Sheev
undahwahtah villages
no
call your supervisor
Battle droids and clone troopers were complete kino. It's funny how for as much as people shit on the prequels for being moronic, literally no one gives a shit about anything that came from Disney Wars, aside from MAYBE Kylo Ren.
Jedi fighting along with clone armies was really neat
Not canon
frick you uncle tom
The story might have been shit but by god were the vehicle designs peak aesthetic, especially the republic ones for me. Its amazing how much the sequels dropped the ball on that aspect considering how much money is to be made from moichandising
The aesthetics and also the sound design - from the throaty diesel chug of the podracers, to the choppy whirr of the double-bladed lightsaber, to the sweet sweet hum of the LAATs. The whole prequel trilogy was fricking sound porn.
The sound of Maul spinning his saber is seared into my brain
they were able to salvage a lot of good shit out of the prequels. with the sequels there is literally nothing to work with.
That's because for all their faults the prequels had love and soul in them, plus a lot of genuinely good ideas hidden behind the shit. The sequels are nothing but pandering woke soulless corporate cashgrabs made by out of touch narcissists
Clones sucked in the films. The CG armor was moronic. They were saved in the video games and cartoons.
There isn't anything wrong with that, and what you said can be said about everything character that was expanded upon in some capacity either games, tv, or books. Pre disney star wars was really cool
>There isn't anything wrong with that
Yes there is, it looks like shit.
It's great that each galactic war throughout SW lore had unique characteristics separate from each other.
Disney Wars committed the unforgivable sin of not only copying the OT galactic war, but not feeling like a galactic war at all when all the First Order was up against was the 1000 members of the Resistance that had miracle juice on their side. EU galactic wars blows it the frick out.
I like to think those giant pillars at the front gate of the Jedi Temple exist because once upon a time the Sith just rammed their door down with a troop ship and slaughtered the place.
Isn’t that exactly what happened in that SWTOR cinematic?
>when all the First Order was up against was the 1000 members of the Resistance that had miracle juice on their side.
And then the very next movie we went to this
God what a waste of fricking time that trilogy was
What the actual c**ting frick
>cavalry charge across the side of a star destroyer
Motherfricker it's a spaceship, just rotate that shit 45 degrees and spill them all off, don't send more troops to fight them that's fricking moronic
Wasn't the whole point of Sheev hiding his super-duper star destroyer mega fleet on Storm Planet that nobody could get there because of all the storms or some shit?
Nothing in this movie makes any fricking sense.
>Authoritative figure of the new republic: ignored
>Lando: whole galaxy answers
What did they mean by this? Aside from ryan johnson being a moron.
>ugh god leia's on the phone again, just going to let that ring out, she probably just wants to nag me for support again
>YO SHIT IS THAT MY BOY LANDO FRICKIN' A, WHATCHU NEED PLAYA
>useless droids that are literally designed to be fodder for the protagonists and faceless CGI clones no one has any reason to care about are "complete kino"
prequeltards are delusional
It's a fun aesthetic. Sometimes all you need is an excuse to have big cool battles with interesting vehicles and ships.
>two equally powerful mass produced armies slamming into each other
what's not to like
>literally no one gives a shit about anything that came from Disney Wars
Rogue One, Andor and Mandalorian are kino
Mando and RO are mid, Andor is pretty good.
Kylo Ren is just Jacen Solo-lite wearing Not!-Revans helmet. He's a complete bastardization and his name makes no sense. Why the frick would Leia and Han name their kid after Kenobi?
because Ben saved Leia's life when she was a little girl?
You are a homosexual but you know that already
Dunno why Kylo is so beloved, can’t stand the mopey frick
I wish I was a B1 battle droid
It's crazy because they fear death.
Why create clones when droid armies are easier to maintain?
Sexo
The clones should have been girls.
uh, some were girls, chud
lul
>officially canon
I hope disney goes bankrupt
>Commader Sister, execute order 41%
>genetically identical clones
>one of them troons out
>Disney officially supports that trans is groomed in instead of born
KEK
Imagine Temuera Morrison as a trans Clone Trooper lmao
Good luck with that accelerated aging, sister.
>Her commanding were commander
>They shouldn't be a problem
>"Oh they shouldn't be a problem? Now I'm really invested."
>Cuts to George Lucas saying the droids are useless and Jedi cut through them like butter
>"Frick you."
Probably my favourite plinkett moment.
Misses the point entirely. Sure the Jedi can easily roll the druid army, but they're not supposed to be the military arm of the government.
It's like the Plonket reviews doesn't understand the story at all
Their entire army was struggling pretty hard against the gungans and they’re basically space savages.
The only good Nu Wars ship design
I like the Hammerhead.
The hammerhead is a slightly reskinned ship design from KOTOR so its not really their design
I always assumed it was just a redesign of the Tantive IV
was that from rouge one
I am taking these (you)s to Coruscant.
Make me, you son of a Casio!
>Hal–ACK!
Love this little droid like you couldn't imagine
Shame they never really reused them outside of AOTC and Genndy Clone Wars. Maybe too expensive and timely to animate.
I killed a bunch of spider droids and hailfire droids in Lego Star Wars
Kino design. Basically a walking mini death star
Remember when everyone was talking about Dooku having the plans? Good times
>Brap.
Can we finally apologize to George and agree Ep. 1 is kino?
I used to pretend I was a battle droid and unfold myself along with them
I still, to this day, have no idea how the Trade Federation and Dooku's separatists figured into Palpatine's power grab. He just had Vader kill them all, and that made him emperor somehow.
I get that he was mainly using them to cause the chaos he needed to seize power. But it didn't make much sense to kill them all off since they would do anything he said. He could have had them accept defeat or make a peace deal. But I guess Lucas just wanted a reason to have them gone since they're not in the OT.
I may be moronic, but I can take solace in the knowledge that Lucas is at least as moronic as I am.
The Empire basically nationalized all of the corporations that funded/were apart of the CIS so there was no need for them any more.
>why would the evil dictator tie up loose ends by killing his co-conspirators
Are you serious?
How are they loose ends? They work for him and are extremely loyal. They did anything/everything he asked and would kill their grandmas for him. There's literally no one that could do a thing to Sheev if they were to remain alive. And again, just have them make some sort of deal for peace then they accept a show punishment. Done. And he still has loyal servants and rewards his followers. Turning Sheev into the guy who always kills the people who help him, yet somehow always has a line of eager people ready to help, was utterly moronic.
Nobody fricking knew he ran the CIS and after the deadliest war in galactic history, it absolutely makes sense he wouldn't give some show punishment to the separatist leaders.
Palpatine was pulling the strings for decades prior to episode 1. He was only known as Sidious to the Trade Federation and only known as Palpatine to the Republic.
He gained position with Nute Gunray and the trade federation because of his ties with Plageuis. And acted as an advisor.
Prior to the invasion of Naboo, he was just a Senator with little actual power. But through the dark side of the force, he was able to coerce other Senators and stoke the Trade Federation whilst also encouraging them to wage war and start a blockade on Naboo.
Once the Republic won the battle of Naboo on his leadership, he was democratically voted as Supreme Chancellor. At that point, he could further mistreat the Trade Federation and accelerate the war to a point where he would become a dictator on both sides, being given emergency leadership privileges. Once he had absolute power of both sides, he sent the Republic army and Vader to kill the Trade Federation leadership and Jedi so that no one could object to him creating peace as an Empire and combining his two rival factions.
The only two characters that could see both sides were Qui Gon and Dooku. They were the protagonists of the prequels, and both died. Jedi masters like Yoda and Mace were just as evil as Palpatine, running an army of slaves for control based on their own ideologies. The only time the prequels could have found resolution against Palpatine was when Dooku extended his hand out to Obi Wan on geonosis to join him. Obi Wan was just as blind as Yoda and rejected him, then sent his Jedi to be slaughtered.
There's my autistic wall of text.
>Jedi masters like Yoda and Mace were just as evil as Palpatine
Sith propaganda
>running an army of lobotomized human clones and children abducted by their families against a faceless, robot army because they want to unfairly tax civilizations that survive on manufacturing is a thing the good guys do
>children abducted by their families
Don't forget that they can only continue their weird religion by indoctrinating extremely young children into it and training them for decades. Oh and they start the kids on lightsaber combat at 7 or so and see no problem with sending teenage padawans into combat.
Then there's their hilarious doctrine of having no attachments, finding balance, and being humble. All that while living in a giant expensive complex on a planet that is 100% soulless city. You'd think the Jedi Order's main temple would be hidden away on a remote planet and be pretty simple and not ostentatious at all.
frick the jedi
Yoda and Mace and the jedi weren't evil. They were complacent, however, and grew to a point where they didn't do as much good as they should have.
As for dooku, I always wondered if he was genuine when he asked Kenobi to join him. He definitely hated the jedi and probably saw through the bullshit of the war, but he was also already a sith. He was most likely too far gone to have done any good and would have ended up trying to kill kenobi anyways since kenobi was infallible.
And Palps had anakin kill the Cis leaders so he could strike another final win for the "republic" that would lead to more support for the empire.
>As for dooku, I always wondered if he was genuine when he asked Kenobi to join him
It was an obvious parallel to pic related from the OT because pottery
Going by this, Dooku was probably as genuine as Vader
>The only time the prequels could have found resolution against Palpatine was when Dooku extended his hand out to Obi Wan on geonosis to join him. Obi Wan was just as blind as Yoda and rejected him
I was kind of annoyed at how stupid Obiwan seems in Episode 2. He's supposed to be this super wise old man in the OT. Maybe Christopher Lee's acting amplified it though.
>how stupid Obiwan seems in Episode 2. He's supposed to be this super wise old man in the OT
You answered your own question. He wasn't the wise old man yet, that was the entire point of his character arc. The events of the PT are the reason he became that.
Yeah but it seems like the whole thing went completely over his head. I guess he had a lot of time to think about it in his little desert hut.
I think Palpatine's original plan was for the trade federation to succeed on Naboo and to let the situation escalate to the point where the senate would grant him emergency powers to create the clone army which he preemptively ordered. This didn't work out so Palpatine had to adjust the plan and had his new apprentice Dooku use his political connections to start a galactic secessionist movement to justify the clone army.
But he wasn't Chancellor then, he was just a Senator.
He was elected to chancellor halfway through the movie and the first thing he does is try to convince Padme not to go back and save her people and he sent Maul to stop her when she did anyway. Remember in Episode 2 they say that the clone army was ordered 10 years ago which would have been around this time.
He wasn't elected until the end of the film, he was just a nominee at that point. Anyway, he only was able for the position because Padme called for a vote of no confidence in the current Chancellor. In his plan she would still have been on Naboo as a captive.
None of this contradicts what I said. The clone army was already ordered by then as per AOTC. When the first crisis he engineered to justify the creation of the clone army got resolved he had to engineer another one.
But the clone army was only ordered ten years prior to AotC, they wouldn't be ready until ten years later.
And in that time the Naboo crisis could've easily escalated to the point where the senate would be willing to grant Palpatine emergency powers even without a decade of Sheevkaku
I'd argue that the Naboo crisis could have gone either way and Palpatine would have got what he wanted i.e. the Trade Federation going rogue and declaring a confederacy.
>Trade Federation is defeated at Naboo, Sidious convinces them the Republic won't support them & goads them into forming the CIS
>Trade Federation takes over Naboo, Sidious feeds into their ego and convinces them to continue expanding their power until the Republic sees them as a threat, leading to the CIS again
You have to remember that Palpatine was playing both sides of the war, his plan was always for it to escalate to a full-blown secessionist movement given enough time.
Palpatine was the senator for Naboo at the time, if his planet's queen was being held captive by an unsanctioned army outside of the Republic he could have moved for a vote of no confidence in the Chancellor just as easily since Valorum was content to sit on his hands and ignore the whole invasion.
If anything, having Padme there to declare it herself just gave it more weight.
Read a history book. Every successful usurpation of power terminates in a purge of untrustworthy aides.
LONG LIVE THE SEPERATIST ALLIANCE!!!
a rated R, full gore, literal horror of Grevious being lore accurate would be gigakino
?t=65
when this comes on during battlefront 2 (either one) shit gets real
>when I carry my sausage dog up the stairs and put him down again
>wait a second
>erm actually
>to be frank I must say
>YOUR UNDER A REST
Does anyone actually like the rebel alliance?
Empire has a god tier aesthetic for ground forces, cool if impractical vehicles, iconic space ships, and the fighters besides the basic TIE are fantastic.
Republic is similar to the Empire but ironically more "human" despite being clones, plus the combat-gear Jedi are awesome and made for some cool interplay between the two vastly different cultures.
Confederacy troops, ground vehicles, and starfighters look amazing and are very visually distinct from the other factions. Being led by a council of alien merchant lords was cool too. The only un-cool thing vehicle was Dookou's stupid bike.
Who likes the rebels? The A-wing and Snowspeeder were cool I guess. Their starships look like dog turds and their infantry look like they all bought the same spirit Halloween costume. And they're never seen doing anything cool on the ground, the fricking Naboo guys were more successful troops.
i've always thought that the x-wing and to a lesser extent the y-wing were pretty sex
Their space forces are cool, ground troops are trash.
I like the Endor rebels and the Tatooine rebels from the battlefront games.
People like their starfighters and that's about it.
making them goofy was the biggest mistake
>uh oh, they're comedy jokes, better introduce some REAL battle droids to be dangerous instead
>they're comedy jokes with squeaky voices and pratfalls by the opening of the next movie
sequels are overflowing with soul and beauty, if george had just asked for help with writing and directing they could have surpassed the originals