Hamster & Gretel Theme Song

Great song, but the animation is absolutely awful

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  1. 2 years ago
    Lockhead

    I'm not gonna watch the video but I'm guessing it's god awful. The guy who made this (I assume the creator of FnF) had to be seriously fricking lazy to produce this generic shit. Then again, why the frick should I care? I'm not a fricking kid watching this shit so frick it.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Awful.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the animation?

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    YAAAAAAAaaaaaaawww ww w w w w nnn

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This show is what happens when you buy Phineas and Ferb at the gas station.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    P&B writers never recovered after 2nd dimension

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Or 2016

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I know the running joke of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is overplayed but when you physically are related and know people that exhibit full-blown TDS butthurt due to post-2016 Trump existing. You begin to question their mental health entirely.
        Same with anons screaming troon or /misc/ non-stop as if those topics live in their heads rent-free.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, kind of what we've seen with Alex "The Manlet" Hirsch as well. Politics and the twitter environment just completely send them off the deep end and it ends up fricking up their career even though they are doing technically everything they "should" be doing to fit in with the Hollywood elite.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Prior to 2016, I had a best friend named Rob. He was a proud Democrat and I'm a Republican. We met in high school and viewed one another as brothers. We would obviously disagree on political topics but never to the point of arguing and raising our voices out of anger.
            2016 changed all that as he went full "you're either with me or against me". Even texted me a death threat on election night as he was so messed up with the results.
            Since then, Rob went full TDS to where:
            >His wife (my cousin) divorced him as all he could discuss was orange man bad
            >He was fired from his job due to how he would constantly bring up politics and be unprofessional to others
            Even now, in fricking July of 2022, he still screams about Trump.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gretel's almost constant smile kinda creeps me out.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you suddenly gained superpowers, wouldn't you be smiling?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Gretel's everything kinda creeps me out

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'll try this show out, it can potentially go to shit but I'll just try it out anyway.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    did milo murphy's law do so bad that now theyre repeating animations in the intro

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    But Cinemaphile told me this show would save western animation.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >staring into your soul.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Soulless

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The show will debut with a music album on the same day the series premieres. Kinda based.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Love the catchy theme song itself, but the visuals are ehhh…

    I agree with the anons unnerved by Gretel's gigantic smile. Her design as a whole just puts me off from the whole thing. I don't wanna say she looks SOULLESS, but maybe… weirdly synthetic? Like, I don't get the sense this little girl has a very compelling or even existing personality behind that wide grin. I never got this impression when first introduced to Star, Anne, Luz, or even Molly, so something just seems off here.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They have a dog too?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Say what you will about Milo Murphy's Law, but Diogee's name and design will always be one of the best things ever.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Wonder if the dog is just going to be a generic dog or will it do something interesting and secret like Perry?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Star, Anne, Luz, or even Molly,
      they all have objectively better designs. Gretel just doesn't feel like a main character brown girls can't stop winning

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I love my girls, they're awesome.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Same

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Gretel just doesn't feel like a main character
        This is a problem they had with MML as well, I guess the Phineas & Ferb characters being designed in the 90s gave them an edge that older Dan just isn't able to give to his new characters. Phineas, Ferb, Candace, Perry and Doof's designs are insta-locked into your memory from the first time you see them, that just isn't the case here.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonyrnous

          Yeah. Seems like Povenmire just kind of stopped aiming to use broad shapes and silhouettes to define his character designs like back in the day. It's fine if he wanted Milo Murphy's Law to look a bit more grounded by comparison, but the designs on Hamster & Gretel just fail to POP.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This image makes me think Irvin was going to be the group's nerd but Disney made them to replace him with Baljeet because diversity

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The brother in H&G being generic is something I can accept because I think the joke is supposed to be that he's the mundane "boring" one with no powers or anything, but Gretel herself does not look interesting enough to make that contrast funny so it kinda falls flat. Aside from smiling all the time, she doesn't seem to stand out all that much.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe she'll look better once we actually see her emote more instead of always looking like: 0‿0

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I really, really hope you're right.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          She looks so weird

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are you coping already?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      she has no neck

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Her design is so different from everyone else in the show that it is jarring.
        As others have said; 2 full seasons with the 3rd season of 12 or so episodes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Her design is so different from everyone else in the show that it is jarring.
          Phineas was a fricking triangle.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            that's a different type of different

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but other characters also were shapes in design. Gretel is the only oddity in H&G that we've seen so far.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              it's especially the sponge bob eyes

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If her unique design isn't revealed to be something for the plot. I'll be shocked.
                >Dan's gender-confused daughter was cast as Gretel's voice actress after being the rumored stand-in
                >Dan's gender-confused daughter was rumored to be the basis for MML's Melissa design
                >Dan's gender-confused daughter has the most unique-looking character design of all the revealed cast so far

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Dan's gender-confused daughter
                you can't be serious

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, not shit posting.
                Here's her IMDB profile picture. She isn't a "she" but uses "they/them".

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    animation isn't really terrible it's fine. It just feels like a gag from FnF

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This girl has a creepy face and souless eyes, like a doll's eye.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      THAT'S why Gretel rubs me the wrong way. She looks as lifeless as a doll.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you know in a different show she could work really well as a creepy "always happy" type of character

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well that means it's got one more thing going for it than anything else Didney is airing right now.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This looks fricking terrible, like a joke pitch

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      rude

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the hamster is more important than the boy
        Is this the show Cinemaphile praised?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >the hamster is more important than the boy
          that's the joke

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is this Povenmire's creator powerlevel when he's not paired up with Swampy?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why did Swampy dip?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        He’s working on Pete the Cat.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    She looks creepy because she looks like a down syndrome person

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dan has become a hack, convinced he's too big to fail or just doesn't have enough people around him to offer proper critical input / too many "yes men". Basically the Butch Hartman of Disney, one hit, a long period of mediocrity, and now he's descending into the Oaxis phase.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Took you long enough to realize that

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >That filename
      BRB gonna post Andrea getting Blacked.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The song isn't that good compared to P&F and MML. The animation is shit as well.
    As I've said in previous threads, I don't see Disney greenlighting this beyond 2 seasons unless a massive rework is done. Clearly Swampy was the creative one and Dan was just the funny VA guy.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Did they already renew it for a second season?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, which is always a stupid idea regardless of what series we're talking about. At least wait for the audience reaction halfway through before throwing money into the fire.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        disney shows always get 2 seasons when greenlit, the question is if they will get a third one, owl house didn't for example.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonyrnous

      >Clearly Swampy was the creative one and Dan was just the funny VA guy.
      Dan came up with the original Phineas and Ferb concept all those years back. I've always seen Dan as the main face of the duo; the Mike Judge, the Trey Parker, the Justin Roiland.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Interesting, wasn't aware that Dan was the only showrunner. When did Swampy come into the picture and what did he add?

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I feel nothing towards that. It'll probably get like three seasons then Disney will forget about it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I still don't understand why people believe this will get three seasons just because MML and P&F did. Both of those series had a charm that H&G is lacking with its characters, overall plot, and voice actors.
      Dan having his mentally confused daughter voice Gretel screams favoritism. Her voice would be acceptable for a recurring side character. Not one of the main characters.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's not like I actually want this dreck to get three seasons. It's just what I expect.
        Though it only having two seasons makes more sense at this rate.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is Gretel okay? She doesn't look all there.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How long until Disney forces them to add Doof and Perry.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm surprised they haven't made the Doof 101 spinoff yet

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao what is this shit, if it wasn't for the Disney Logo I would have assumed its from one of those creepy low quality nursery rhyme youtube channels.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >show flops midway in S1
    >Dan shoehorns in the OWCA at the end of the season
    This is going to happen and Dan is a hack

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Hamster joins the OWCA
      >This leads to Doof, Perry, and the other animals appearing from the rejected Doof OWCA pilot
      Shit, H&G was a backdoor series for Doof once again.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just like how Doofenshmirtz and OWCA got forced into MML? I would absolutely not put it past him. I honestly enjoyed that show a lot but Doof ruined it for me, obviously I like him but him becoming a main character on that show basically just screams that they had no faith in their original ideas anymore and could barely push out a single season without having to fall back on P&F as a last ditch effort. I would not be surprised in the least if the same happens for this show, and considering that one of the main characters is an animal who fights villains...yeah it's absolutely happening.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm eagerly awaiting the time when P&F characters start appearing in this show as well. It was sad in MML and it'll be sad here too.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'll only accept P&F and MMl characters appearing if they are aged up. Say Hamster & Gretel takes place after the P&F cast are out of college. They could use time travel shenanigans to bring in Doof and Perry.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus christ, Dan should've just made OWCA Files a full show.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I fricking hate how hard Dan & Swampy dropped the ball on Milo Murphy's Law. I actually really liked the dynamic Milo, Zack, and Melissa shared. Always enjoyed seeing their school episodes with their fellow classmates and teachers as a nice change of pace from Phineas and Ferb's endless summer. And a safety-obsessed crossing guard with a rivalry against Milo for the latter's trail of destruction he always leaves? Genius. Dakota & Cavendish were also super funny. The Pistachio Monster plot thread was kind of out there, but I was still interested in their time-traveling B-stories.

        Really, my only gripe with the series was how hard they leaned in to the Doctor Who parody, to the point where Milo's older sister had her entire personality defined by how much of a nerd she was for that series. I was bored by that, but it wasn't enough to take away from all the elements I did enjoy overall. Really bums me out that despite how lengthy series development can be, Dan & Swampy still INSISTED on keeping to the Danville setting and ultimately using MML as a vehicle to bring back Phineas and Ferb characters. MML didn't even get the opportunity to have an identity of its own, so all those creative ideas I mentioned earlier felt like a waste of time in the end. Really hope Dan is more open to allowing Hamster & Gretel to stand on its own legs this time around, but I'm also worried he lost his chance at another hit cartoon with the previous one he fricked over. This new superhero one just doesn't entice me so far.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Shows don't need to be a big hit to enjoy them.

          MML could have done everything they had set out to do in two seasons but by putting Doof in they wasted time with him.

          With Gretel, I really hope the show stays out of Pnf (it doesn't bother me that they're in the same universe). But seeing how people, even in SDCC, keep asking questions about a crossover and Dan already giving them 'hope' worries me a lot.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >With Gretel, I really hope the show stays out of Pnf (it doesn't bother me that they're in the same universe). But seeing how people, even in SDCC, keep asking questions about a crossover and Dan already giving them 'hope' worries me a lot.
            Just have it like what

            I'll only accept P&F and MMl characters appearing if they are aged up. Say Hamster & Gretel takes place after the P&F cast are out of college. They could use time travel shenanigans to bring in Doof and Perry.

            said of Hamster & Gretel taking place in the future. Handwave that the family has a future oven produced by Phineas & Ferb Technology Inc. or something as a nod to the fans. Otherwise, no crossovers happen.
            By having each show self-contained in the same timeframe and Dan/Swampy universe. It'll eventually suffer bloat due to in-universe jokes. It was established and worked for P&F. It somewhat worked with MML before Doof became a house guest.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Milo Murphy's Law didn't need to go any harder with the references than pic related. The crossover itself happened way too soon, almost as if the whole show was leading up to that specific special and nothing more.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly, those are good easter eggs, where the PnF follower will catch them and the one who is not, will not even notice.

                Although I don't know how much that "nobody knows what it is" applies to the Klimpaloon since in Pnf it was exposed to the world.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            we are not going to do a tie-in, maybe in universe references. everybody on crew/production was scarred by MML, but learned from those hard lessons

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Milo had an interesting concept and a lot of push behind it. Yet, the final product was lacking something.
              >Weird Al as the MC
              >Time traveling side characters that worked in favor of Milo's "murphy's law" ability
              >nice side characters for Milo to be friends and enemies with
              >Disney as a backer
              >Decent to great songs
              Looking back, I'm still unsure what the show was missing to bring everything together.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                from a story standpoint, it got too in the weeds to the point where if you hadn't watched the previous four episodes, nothing made sense to the average viewer. the episodes were so packed with complications it became impossible to track what was going on

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                YES, fricking 150% YES to what you said!
                The running background plot with Dakota and Cavendish hindered it and the Murphy's Law incidents went from basic to city destroying in such a quick manner for comedic purposes that you couldn't keep track of everything.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              If you really are part of the production, try discreetly opting to give Carolina more screen-time. Asking for a friend haha

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think the animation itself is fine. It's the main character design that's bad. Does this b***h even blink?

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Music feels tepid for a theme song. Animation is cheap. Humor seems deadpan, which I have nothing against, but it was done poorly in MML and the last couple of seasons of PnF, which just came across as tired.
    I don't see another PnF sized hit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The theme song being so fricking low energy is the real crime here.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Biggest problem is it feels like a one off gag song and not even as catchy as those.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's like a cartoon that would be on the TV in P&F's world.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yea it's like a joke show they'd flip through when "they can't think of what they'll do today."

        And this is one of their bad pitches.

        Before settling on "The Perry Show."

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's pretty catchy, but definitely more low-energy than its predecessors' themes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, it's not catchy at all.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is the porn gonna be good at least?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The mom is cute at least, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of La Cebolla.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The reporter looks cute.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Also good, yes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Looking at all the villains (I see you in the shadows Doof)

        Their designs are so much better. I'd rather see a show about villains trying to take over the city having their lives and being defeated by a rather bland hero. Pretty much like this one.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That would be a better idea for a series.
          >New universe away from Phineas & Feb or Milo Murphy's Law
          >A group of villains, say 8 to 12, that meet up to discuss how they tried to take over the city, state, country, or world this week only to be defeated by an extremely bland sounding and looking child and pet hamster
          >Kevin, is the summer intern for the group as they pose as a respectable business to cover their tracks
          BOOM, a lot better.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not of Gretel, that's for sure.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      depends if kevin has a cute best friend like candace did

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        According to the wikipedia page there's a japanese girl that he crushes on, so the answer is yes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I was hoping for a male best friend though

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The promos so far have this very "kiddie" vibe, but I wanna believe the writers have the chops to make the dynamic between Kevin and Gretel relatable and emotionally resonant. I love the awkward conflict of an older brother on the cusp of adulthood having to be his MUCH younger sister's babysitter only for her to now become a superpowered hero and therefore attract MORE danger on a regular basis. It's a dynamic I'm not sure has been done quite like this before, but it feels novel enough to me. If they can make that the core of the series and have the writing work in its favor, I'll be a fan.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You touched on an interesting dynamic that children's demographic cartoons haven't explored too much. The issue is I don't see Dan being the writer to correctly explore the topic of Kevin wanting to be a young adult while looking after his younger, and now danger-prone, sister without the use of jokes to de-escalate situations.
      Hell, I'm not sure what writer could make the dynamic you described work properly?

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When you think about it Dan Povenmire shows are just Disney Channel sitcoms just animated and taking advantage of the medium.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Soo a cartoon

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >WHO'S STILL STANDING WHEN THEY SEE THE DUST SETTLE
    I felt that, good theme song

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Still a bop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOdBoSjzT6c

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      WELL THANKS EVERYBODY, THAT IS SO MOTIVATIONAL

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      weird al always delivered

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How did they make such a banger of a song? Still one of my favorite theme songs.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        GO MILO GO MILO GOOO

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      MML song is so fricking good even better than P&F song.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Whoa now, let’s not say anything we might regret.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          MML wins the better theme song as it was performed by Weird Al.
          P&F had much better episode songs though.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is this gonna be a captain flamingo situation?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Explain.

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