I watched the first 2 episodes last night and I'm not sure what I think about this just yet
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Hang on, so it's like some kind of R rated broadway musical?
>R rated broadway musical
Yes, that's literally it, plus donut steel aesthetic for sexual appeal to autists.
The ultimate child-free millennial bait.
I've got two kids and my wife and I enjoy it. Some of the music is trash, but overall there's generally more good/funny than cringe which makes it a decent watch. It is absolutely millennial bait though, and calling it "sexy" is misleading. It's just gay. Like really, really gay.
>watching edgy cartoons is part and parcel of millennial marriages
BIG oof
>"oof"
>reddit spacing
I dearly hope this is bait, for your sake.
Cope.
>I've got two kids and my wife and I enjoy it.
I really feel bad for your frickin kids. They don't have a chance in life.
What if someone wants their kids to grow up open minded? You realise letting your kids get exposed to modern sexuality in a cartoon format can only make them more nuanced and mature?
Being open minded doesn't guarantee the kids will make educated decisions when they get older. Your goal shouldn't be to make your kids accept everything and everyone, like some kind of open borders political policy. You should teach them the realities of the world, the real world, not a cartoon world of homosexuals and sing-a-longs.
Art is a way to talk about the real world. And open borders and sexual freedom are the way the world is headed, and it’s good. There’s no reason to be angry about it
>Braaaap
a world where people can consensually love whoever they want, and travel anywhere, is bad because… it just is
Different Anon here.
Open borders is unrealistic because it does nothing to resolve the issues fueling the migrations. The problems must be fixed at their sources.
The world itself needs to be fixed, then there would be no need for migrations.
The world is what we make it. It only sucks because we make it that way.
the self hating brownie posting on Cinemaphile knows about successful life outcomes kek
They'll be going to good schools and university while being raised by parents who have effectively won capitalism. My kids are going to be just fine. You, however, will still be a fricking loser.
This is not a show for children. If you show this to kids younger than 13 you a child abuser.
>bragging about sending your kids to DEIversity
Chuds intentionally refusing to get an education will never not be funny to me. Make sure not to work high level management at a corporation either, their diversity business units are evil!
>go work for people who tell you to hold your breath until you have a nice day for being white to own the chuds
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/huge-loss-for-dei-in-federal-court/ar-BB1hmSQV
You're totally right. You should definitely never seek higher education. In fact, you should discourage your entire family from going to college. This should ensure your entire bloodline remains in the peasant class where it belongs.
charlie is cute
I've only seen the $50k music video
Jimmy Two Shoes is the superior hell show.
stupid image but Jimmy Two Shoes is a great show
You just unlocked a 15 year old memory, jesus christ.
Hazbin hotel isn't even the best show set in this hell universe
Just seems like a typical gay cartoon. I don't get the appeal but I'm not on SSRI's so I know it's not for me.
>everyone in hell is gay
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>Lucifer is straight as an arrow
what did Viv mean by this
Ignore all who say making all the characters in hell gay is based or accidentally based.
The show makes it a point that heaven is unfair to the oppressed residents of hell who dindu nuffin.
Angels are the main antagonists.
Actual rapists or mass murderers are never portrayed in hell so all the characters were probably sent there just for being gay because "haha that's so unfair right? silly religion!"
The person who wrote the show has a massive ship on xer shoulder. They couldn't play it safe without it going against their ideals, which is fine but ruins the whole premise of the show
>if heaven is le evil, then what's the point of trying to redeem anyone?
>lol we'll just have everyone go to war, frick G*d
I meant the exorcists in the show, like Lute and gaygie.
>They couldn't play it safe without it going against their ideals,
Are you joking? The entire show is playing it safe. It's safe edgy: the show.
>whoooooah the characters CURSE (only safe curse words though) and are DEGENERATES (only safe degeneracy though)
It's like some boomers grandpa's idea of what's revolutionary in modern art.
"Couldn't play it safe without it going against their ideals." The point I was making is in the very sentence you quoted, in regards to how heaven is portrayed. We live in a world were people (like Viv, the author of the show) would be offended if the angles were right about keeping sinners inside hell.
They play it safe because no one in hell is some Misc Pot dictator that wants to commit genocide. Instead we have quirky gays and queers who only want to have lots of sex and do drugs all day.
Yes, you're agreeing with me. The person writing the show either has no ideals or is too weak to follow through with them.
I'm not understanding why you thought I was joking then, if you agree with me.
Like I said, I'm only two episodes in, but they keep talking about "killing people" in hell. How exactly would that work? It's hell. They're already dead. Does this ever get explained at all?
It's not fully explained as of now. The theories are either they get wiped from existence completely, or their souls are absorbed into hell itself, basically they get trapped as inanimate things in hell (that's for sure someone's fetish).
They go to Double Hell. It's like hell but much worse.
Basically akin to China's Hell, with different sectors of Hell.
tibetan buddhism has wild beliefs about the afterlife. there are potentially infinite dimensions and spiritual planes called pure lands that people can simultaneously exist across. you start to see what anime got culturally influenced by
Are you sure they aren't talking about demons rather than sinners, I only watched the pilot
Wait I'm moronic and forgot the entire premise
It seems like their biggest problems are over crowding because there isn't enough space for everybody that ends up there, combined with the regular attacks made on them by heavan
Well that's the problem, there's no law enforcement and shit, souls are left to self govern because Lucifer is a depressed frick who doesn't give a shit. And because it's hell the majority of souls there are self destructive morons barely capable of self governing. You can killed at the street randomly, someone can kidnap you and put you in a torture dungeon and no one will do shit. I think the shittiest time in HH hell would be when you just died and found yourself there. You need to find a job, shelter to survive. I think the implication is that the only way for an average normalgay to do that is to sell their soul to a powerful demon (usually those are also souls of the dead humans that managed to self sustain in Hell and gain followers). Those demons are overlords who basically rule over hell. And those overlord demons are usually sadists and shit like that. The gay spider is a porn star / prostitute of Valentino, a pimp overlord who said he killed shit ton of prostitutes over small annoyances. And I bet there's monkeypaw shit for every overlord.
There are also purges from Heaven. Everyone is scared of dying in Hell which means that what comes after that is worse. I think non-existence is not that bad, most likely the theory about becoming trapped in an inanimate thing will be the canon one.
troony show. troony thread.
>Gays in Hell: The Show
Why do people here keep saying this? There's the one gay character, but as of where I am with the show right now, that's it. Are there more or something?
There's something really off-putting about the animation in this show. It's like it was storyboarded by a bipolar person during a manic phase.
this is not the official show this was commissioned by some autistic black guy. he raised a ton of money for what people thought was his youtube content then he turned around and gave 50k to a bunch of different animators to make this private horny thing where he fricks the demon and it leaked and now people are mad that he wasted all of that money
Everything you just said is hilarious
Not as hilarious as the fact that it's true.
Yes, yes it is.
>wasted
We don't actually know if he spent 50gs. The person who said so was some unrelated twittertard, not even the guy himself.
It's unlikely that it deviates too much from that, I know getting actually decent looking animators on the internet is not a cheap endeavor.
Someone posted screenshots of a discord chat with Verbalase and he confirmed he spent 47k on it. There's also rumors that the video is actually 15 minutes long and only 3 minutes of it is public. Regardless, for the money he spent on his goon video he could've flown out a top escort, have her dress up and roleplay like Charlie and rape him for an entire weekend.
This is just some typical Newgrounds flash animation porn shit
>This is just some typical Newgrounds flash animation porn shit
Spot on.
Charlie's suck and frick hotel, formerly hazbin
hey at least post it with sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG3-P2xAhTY
alright that's enough of that
Why were Vegeta and Spongebob there?
someone spent $50,000 for that...
wait what
whats the qrd on this animation
Not exactly quick but goes over wtf this was about.
how do you recover from this?
I really hope the double-rumor of the actual animation being 15 mins long and only a small section was leaked is true because then I can see $50,000 in cost. But if he paid 50k for just that webm, what a moron. It's newgrounds tier. The tweening and proportions are all off.
I’m totally convinced that there’s a more hardcore segment that hasn’t been released. Nobody could be so stupid as to pay 50k for this tamed shit.
Nah, even if it had 15k or less would be enough to pay for it. Dude totally got scammed
everything about this show reeks of obese millennial women who go to Disney and wear Mickey Mouse ears
Does Lute dominate Adam?
Seriously, look at this chonky Angel. No way she's not dominating him.
>le angel but with HORNS
Cringe.
Apparently it's a mask, like the exorcists wear. I don't know why he can eat through it though.
Mi scusi ma gli exorcisti don’t wear masks.
>we want to intimidate the demons
>let's wear masks that make us look like demons
???
I think they're just kinky sex faces. Lute and Adam wear them during sex.
He's probably the only good character in the show, unironically.
He's definitely tapping both demons and angels.
Adam is a wild one.
This is my type of character design
I hope she dominates Adam, thoroughly. Not that he minds.
At the very least they accidentally made Adam based.
>Setting is literally Hell
>The 90% of the cast are sex obsessed homos or generic flag waving millenials
Did the creator think this through?
>Left loves show because representation
>Right loves show because "Ha ha gay people go to Hell!"
Seems like she aimed for the broadest audience possible, lol.
you’re meant to sympathise with the gays and hate the angels. that’s how inverted leftist reality is
In fairness, many of the Angels are shown to be decent. Vagatha herself is ex-Angel and only because she refused to commit child murder.
>hmm i wonder why that innocent looking kid was in hell in the first pla- oh we're moving on ok
Point is, she refused to kill a child. Thus she got kicked out of the Exterminators.
that’s true but the main idea is that morality, or at least heaven and hell, are arbitrary. you have good and bad guys in both, so in the end there’s no genuine distinction between them
So it’s morally binary and incredibly simplistic, and the faux complexity of heaven and hell is just a facile sheen to obscure that?
all this shit is simplistic. morally grey means “whatever morality the author has”.
The morality of the show seems to be that regardless of whatever credentials a person or group may have, whether they're actually good or bad is ultimately determined by whether or not they exhibit good or bad behavior. If you go around saying you're an angel therefore you must be good, and then continuously slaughter people for no reason, then you're not good. Conversely if everyone says you're a demon and you live in hell therefore you must be bad, it's equally just as inconsequential if you spend all your time being good and doing good things, or actively seeking moral redemption and legitimately changing
this makes the setting pointless though. it’s an allegory for the political life of earth. institutions are made of individuals who are complex, we know. but heaven and hell are meant to be spiritual realities- the entire criteria is an essentialist and moral one. if you can go into heaven being cruel, or into hell being kind, they cease to be heaven or hell but completely arbitrary political groupings at war over nothing but power. you can just set it on earth if that’s the case. the entire point of hell is that it is for people, who on a metaphysical level, do not want to change. these aren’t meant to be political allegories but deeper speculations about how we define essential good and essential evil at its core; because these people can only understand reality through politics, heaven and hell aren’t some sort of metaphysical speculation on humanity for them, they’re just competing teams vying for power. which is fine and a completely valid way to talk about people, but it does make the spiritual setting redundant
It doesn't appear to be any kid of allegory for anything specific, except in the vaguest way possible it focuses on injustice and cruelty, alongside the struggle for redemption and self improvement in the face of adversity. But none of that is specific to anything and certainly no particular political situation. Hell is just an interesting and unusual setting, and I don't think there's any deeper further meaning to it beyond it just being an interesting place to set the show that allows for certain amounts of fantasy and magic to be involved because it's inherently super natural
I agree with you, I don’t think the show is trying to be deep with it, is what i’m saying. If it’s trying to be a serious critical of theology it fails, but as an excuse to portray larger than life characters in an absurd reality who gives a shit. I don’t get the outrage myself, even if the anti religious stuff annoys me a little bit. I found it pretty entertaining and light hearted and will continue to watch it
It's a case of moral subjectivity, the leftist's bread and butter. It's what allows them to get away with egregious shit that never would have been allowed in decades past
It's not moral subjectivity at all. In fact it's the opposite. A demon who does bad things is judged just as harshly as an angel who does the same thing. Seems fairly objective. Are you ESL by chance?
It's subjective in the sense that being sent to Hell doesn't necessarily mean you've been BAD! BAD is subjective! Because why else would you be sent to Hell? The sinners of Hell dindu nothin.
They clearly have sinned in their past. But does that mean they should be beyond any redemption? I thought "forgiveness" was our whole bread & butter.
Heck it's my big issue with the rapture. I never liked the idea of going, "Oh sure I'm going to Heaven but screw the heathen who has otherwise lived a moral life." Shouldn't the moral heathens get, at worst, purgatory?
rapture is amerimutt headcanon. same with circumcision, no european christians ever believed in it
>the entire concept of heaven and hell is that you end up there based on whether you were a good person or not
>"ummmmmmmm just cuz you're in hell doesn't mean you're bad actually..."
Lol. Why even bother? Actually, I'll tell you why: because you like the superficial aesthetic of hell and safe edginess but you're too much of a coward to make anything transgressive, so you water it all down to make it palatable and in the process defeat the entire point of doing it in the first place.
Because the one group is shown being nice and doing good things, and the other is shown being bad and killing people. The morality of the show seems pretty straightforward that being nice is good, and killing people is bad. Do you disagree with that or something?
That is pretty much the heart of the show's morality.
Nice = good. Mean = evil.
There was a tradition in the middle ages of doing a sort of comic inversion of society during celebrations. Lords would serve their peasants, good would be evil, there were comic depictions of absurd objects going UP anuses, a thing created to push things out of it. The romans had a similar tradition on saturnalia. For them this was a joke, a funny thing to imagine “what if reality was backward and upside down”. For leftists it’s literally reality
You expect a left-winger to make a bunch of right-wingers protagonists, lol?
Whenever they do they accidentally make the most based and loved characters in their respective show
>Soldier Boy
>Archie Bunker
Homelander is better than Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy is a fraud and a needless dick, so "heroic" his entire team decided to kill him.
Is the latest Helluva Boss episode good? I decided to drop it in that episode where the clown demon and Blitzo kept crying the whole time when they show us that their entire beef was caused by a accident
No. She's intentionally ruining HB to make people watch HH (which is inferior at every level.)
I'm sticking with Helluva Boss. The demons act like demons. Violent, profane, pissed-off.
Damn that sucks, i actually liked the HB pilot and was hoping the actual episodes could reach it's level but i guess it's never going to happen.
What’s that old adult cartoon about pixel invader aliens? It was extremely hilarious.
Aqua teen?
YES frick thank you. It was a bit in the show
when did hell become some sort of surreal place
when sjws took over
I always imagined Hell to be a surreal place with literal ZERO boundaries traveling on forever. As vast as outer space without any end. A cartographer would never be out of a job there.
TLDR: Hell isn't a globe, it's just infinite space.
The guy that wrote Starship Troopers, Robert Heinlein wrote a book with a lot of similar themes to the version of Hell depicted here. It's called Job: A Comedy of Justice. It doesn't exclusively take place in Hell, but it does spend a lot of time there, as well as in heaven, and similarly Heaven is depicted as awful and bad, and Hell is a really fun nice place to live. I realize that's an awful description, but you'll just have to take my word for it that it's actually pretty good
I mean as some spiritual land you can only talk about it analogy it was destined to become that. It started with weird dream vision literature about monks visiting hell, and then was consolidated with dante and bosch who portrayed it as a symbolic representation of evil. That way any sort of object of the senses can stand in for moral and spiritual chaos. I think also, historically, western art felt more comfortable portraying hell than it did heaven, since it’s easier to picture a horrible nightmare than it is ethereal bliss. Cherubs singing and cuddling isn’t as visually striking as bizarre monstrosities mutilating people in creative ways. You have more artistic freedom with it, so it got depicted more.
i always found it cool how hell is all man made artificial objects in bosch compared to eden which is entirely biological and natural. it’s almost like saying hell is of our own making, nothing is there people don’t bring with them
Which is why I prefer "Doom" Heaven. It's like a lighter version of HR Geiger.
Seriously, I bet real Heaven is WEIRD.
https://www.historydefined.net/biblically-accurate-angels-would-actually-be-pretty-scary/
Honestly I agree with how the medieval christians did it. Heaven is meant to be metaphysical perfection, something non sensory that would be impossible to portray in language or image. Even dante prefaces the paradiso by saying words are a rather terrible approximation of what he experienced, ending with a scene where he sees every combination of every possible thing (all substance and accident) in some mind bending vision of all of time and reality. You can’t really paint that. I think it’s also a psychological thing, heaven is meant to be our dreams coming true, our ultimate happiness, and since that’s always a horizon we chase more than an actual thing, whatever we see or have described to us will not be adequate. It’s much easier and more fun to describe what evil looks like, since they didn’t need to be reverent toward it and pretty much had free rein to imagine anything.
War is hell. Children being burnt alive and mutilated.
blame catholicism for equating heaven to rationality
I.e they made Heaven sound boring. Give me Khan Makyr Heaven where angels and Heaven are as weird as Hell.
>watching cartoons
grow up
There is no afterlife. Magic and fairytales don’t exist, we’re biological creatures. After your heart stops and your brain shuts down, you cease to exist and it’s just pure pitch black nothingness.
>After your heart stops and your brain shuts down, you cease to exist and it’s just pure pitch black nothingness.
Which is the point at which you either ascend to Heaven or go down to Hell, yes exactly, you've got it Anon
In other words, there's no reason not to believe in an afterlife since by the time I find out there is no afterlife, I'll be vanished from existence anyway, lol.
The main reason is that the belief fuels homophobia and chud shit.
That's because those guys use belief as an excuse to be the shitheads they always were anyway.
true, that’s another valid reason to support it
you can always guarantee a redditor will have the least interesting opinion when art or philosophy is being discussed
you can't claim there's nothing after life when you just said its outside your experience as a biological creature
How come everybody in the afterlife is either white or black? I think there's like maybe one latin person, but that's pretty much it. Statistically shouldn't like 2/3 of the people in Heaven and Hell be Asian?
All you beaners go to catholic hell which is different and asians don't go to christian hell at all.
>Catholic Hell
Yes, they get spanked by winking, horny demon nuns wielding big rulers.
Okay, I'm enjoying the music when it's just more or less traditional broadway style showtunes, but they have GOTTA stop trying to throw in this Hamilton-style "broadway rap" shit like some kind of Wish version of Lin Manuel Miranda. That shit never ever sounds good, somebody please get congress to pass a law that musicals aren't allowed to try and put rap songs in their shows
>That shit never ever sounds good, somebody please get congress to pass a law that musicals aren't allowed to try and put rap songs in their shows
It's not even rap. It's more like "slam poetry" (aka white girl "rap".)
I don't care man, call it whatever you feel like, I'm just calling it bad because that's what it is. It's like barely one step removed from Robin Williams doing his 1980's B-Boy "rap guy" character he used to always trot out back in the day for Comic Relief and it would make everybody under 75 cringe
>somebody please get congress to pass a law that musicals aren't allowed to try and put rap songs in their shows
Congress is drafting a law requiring 33% of all musical numbers to include raping as we speak.
>doesn't address the abhorrent ghoulish shit going on because there's no defending it and instead starts strawmanning so hard he forgot what he's even arguing about anymore