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Hannibal: The White Rome will pay for their colonizer ways
yoooo hannibal vs rome was actually a black civil war wake up sheeple we wuz everything
Jesus fricking christ this needs to stop
No
No. This will never stop. From here it's a long, slow, death-march towards your absolution. With each passing moment your civilization decays and rots, and tomorrow will be worse yet than today. And the next. And the next. This is your hell. This is your punishment for deeds done in a life lived prior. You will know nothing but decay. Each moment of happiness and excitement will leave you to chase their fleeting joy, never to return in that same magnitude. Everything you will ever know will be duller and duller, bleaker and bleaker, until the world around you is so dark that you are subsumed by it and die. There will be no light at the end of the tunnel, no beacon to beckon you. Only a growing coldness that leaves you shivering and numb. This is your lot.
>*sees a black guy on tv*
>"ITS THE LITERAL END OF CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT!!!"
I think you're being a bit dramatic.
Eh, I don't think so really. This is hardly the first instance of this sort of thing, and it's indicative a much wider sickness in our culture that grows more pervasive by the day.
Its easy to diminish my complaints as being those of a fragile racist, but if you really think about it, my complaint has very little to do with the literal races involved. It would be the same as a Mao biopic played by Ryan Gosling, or Idi Amin played by Jackie Chan. We are pulling away from reality, and when civilizations do that things very quickly become chaotic, violent, and difficult.
the only reason people get testy about white actors portraying historical figures from other parts of the world is because for a few centuries white actors would just throw on some black face or a pair of buck teeth and call it a day. you claim it's not about race and yet you can't suspend your disbelief even when the role is treated with respect and dignity.
then do something about it
Ong we wuz Romez n shiiiiit
Putting aside Rome slaughtered the hell out of them, literally salted the earth and wiped Carthage off the map so he didn't ultimately make them pay for anything the Carthaginians weren't black and neither was Hannibal.
i don't think anyone thinks that's the real Hannibal. it's very clearly an actor portraying him
>clearly an actor portraying him
as a Black
Well, it's telling that Hannibal got rekt by the crackers. Truly proves the "colonizers" were weak and unworthy of what they conquered. Eat shit marxist c**ts
wtf does marxism has to do with woke shit homosexual?
At the heart of marxism is the belief that the exploitation of the working class by the bourgoisie creates special kind of gnostic knowledge in the exploited people that the bourgoisie doesnt have access to.
All subsequent iterations of marxism including current wokeness use the same principle but exchange class consciousness for race consciousness, gender consciousness etc.
You can read all about it in selfprofessed marxist eve sedgewicks book "the epistomology of the closet".
/misc/ told him
yo dis homie finna ride elephant over alps
>Denzel Washington (69 Years Old)
>Hannibal was 29 years old when he crossed the Alps
yeah his son would be perfect for the role
charisma vacuum
Trust me, by the end of that campaign he probably looked 69 years old.
They're arabs, they're not exactly phonecian either way. At least Denzel is african and not fricking asian.
By the end of the campaign he was dead, so I reckon he looked more like your typical Detroit citizen
Hannibal? No, he lived a long time after that, seething about his defeat.
Oh shit you're right. I got my facts wrong.
rope yourself
Don't worry, I'm sure this netflix show won't know that either. All I ask is for a faithful depiction of the battles prior to Canne, genuinely some of the greatest military tactics ever employed in human history.
have a nice day homosexual
shut the frick up moron
people aged quicker back then
>29
Frick, had no idea he was this cool. I always thought he was in his 40s or 50s by then.
This means we will need a 58 year old actor for Scipio.
i mean they hired an old frick to play napoleon just now
Was that movie any good? I'm a little worried because Americans have no fricking idea about anything relating to Napoleon.
i dont know i haven't seen it
why would i when i can watch waterloo for the 16th time instead?
Just browse any Napoleon thread. It's a shit movie is every aspect.
Weird how bad we've gotten at retelling stories of people. I can't figure out why that is. Americans have a strong distaste for history in general, maybe that has something to do with it?
it's truly a clown world when non French speaking actors portray French historical figures.
for some reason he speaks English the whole time??? makes no sense he was french
The Frenchest Frenchman (born and raised in Sardinia, resented France growing up)
>resented France
that is peak french tho
Peak European in general.
>born and raised in Sardinia
corsica and no
damn you lot are stupid
There are no good actors younger than 30
Especially black
can't wait till they clash with the black vikings
Lmao all those homies writing about mansa musa, the mass slaver who collpsed every ecomy by giving up gold wont get a movie, instead it will be another race swap bullshit.
Cant wait for all the tunisians to seethe
can we get some kino about how the ethiopeans were able to remain sovereign while the rest of africa got absolutely prolapsed by white boys?
It was because of Jesus.
OK so we've assraped the legacy of Cleopatra and soon we'll assrape the legacy of Hannibal. What other north africans are left for us to utterly ruin?
Pretend that Nubians still exist? I think they are like 200,000 total now, but that wont stop Americsns pretending they wuz all Nubians n shieet
I dont care about this cause Denzel is a good actor. Film is an extension of theatre and we can suspend our disbelief for the fact that a black man is playing a greek. I would only have a problem if the writers try to push current day issues in our face or cast a amateur minority actor over a good white actor.
BLACK LIVES MATTER. ROME KILLED FLOYD. ROME MUST PAY.
>Film is an extension of theatre
lol
It is and you know it. It began as an extension of photography and then people thought we could act out stories. A good percentage of films in the first 50 years were based on plays or books.
>It began as an extension of photography
Lol troony proves himself wrong in his own post
I win
TAV
Phoenician not Greek, but otherwise I agree. I just want to know who’s gonna play my boy the CUNC.
>Film is an extension of theatre
Up to a point. film and theatre work on different rules. Everything from props to actors' visuals is taken more literally in film as opposed to the vert symbolic decour and overacting present in theatre. With some exceptions, film is supposed to work at face value.
If cinema and theater are the same then black face is ok
Anon this is like the first time they could have justified uaing a israeli man and they STILL chose a black guy
did you see the Book of Clarence?
Inb4 Carthage is depicted as civilised and sophisticated and not as baby sacrificing savages lol.
I wonder why all the white heroes and military leaders are being replaced with doddering geriatrics and blacks.
Seems a little weird that that's consistently happening in larger volumes as time goes on.
they went back in time and replaced the actual historical figures? I thought everyone was just mad at an actor portraying a character, which is pretty pathetic lol
What's the purpose of changing the race of historical figures in popular culture?
they didn't change the race of the historical figures. that's impossible. they hired an actor to play him.
To distort White history for those unaware of it, and to demoralize Whites who are aware of it.
I don't care either way. Seems a bit chuddy if you ask me.
Get use to it. The future is chuddy.
Sure, whatever, I only care about the past anyway. The closer we get to current times, the less interested I become.
Seethe at your chud nightmare slowly creeping into the present from the future. It is coming, and it is unstoppable.
It's all pointless. You know those periods in history in between the big events, where people obsess over shit that don't mean a goddamn thing? That's the period we're in now.
you get demoralized by seeing black actors in movies? weird.
No, but that's the intention. I just mock it, and you just seethe at my mocking of it.
You still care enough to mock it. That's a step further than I can go.
But you're seething at it because you're a fricking homosexual.
>they're trying to demoralize me by hiring black actors to star in movies but I won't let it happen
you need mental help
While we're at it, why not change the history books too?
I can already see this POS in my head.
>Carthaginians are all black and brown people
>they are the "free" people in touch with muh spirit world and muh ancestors and all that
>obvious BLM messaging that doesn't make sense in the context of the ancient world
>Carthage as a brutal, dysfunctional financialist empire reliant on slaves and mercenaries won't be portrayed at all
>Romans will be venal, corrupt, and cowardly Whites living in a tyranny
>Scipio Africanus will be a Nazi stand-in war criminal burning Carthaginian civilians alive for the lols
>Hannibal's defeat probably won't even be portrayed and if it does he'll go down fighting, taking out entire legions of Romans himself instead of killing himself in shame
Yep. Out of everyone ITT, you get it the most.
CHUDS UNITED
Is this ridiculous world, how can any sane man not become a chud?
*In
You should stop taking yourselves so seriously. We're all humans in the end, doing human stuff. Every person involved in this epic tale of glory and despair have all been bonedust for thousands of years now.
Doesn't change the fact that the modern world has replaced sensible ideals and virtues with moronation and homosexualry.
And in the past we replaced it with ideas of spiritualism and religious iconography. And yet it's all lies.
Anything would be an improvement over modern moronation and homosexualry.
>We're all humans in the end
no, we are not
You're taking yourself too seriously again. Work on that if you want to discuss things with the adults.
>You're taking yourself too seriously again
Damn you really are a coward. I'd be embarrassed if i were you.
Well, according to yourself you're not even human.
By having sex.
Receiving oral from your mom is quite nice with her big juicy MILFl lips, but it doesn't change how moronic and gay the world has become.
Remember that Carthage fricked Hannibal over. It would make way more sense to portray their courts as rich, decadent white people throwing the heroic blacks to the wolves. Which also paralells the Roman senate sending THEIR people to die by the hundreds of thousands.
>decadent white people throwing the heroic blacks to the wolves
damn i wish that were me
Danzel Washington is actually a good pick if you want to have black actor to play as a roman emperor or white ruler. I'm not white but I think he's one of many honorary white and respected by white people all over the world. Also, Washington is such a powerful white people name, like General Washington, I don't know it fits really well with Danzel. I think most if not all white people would agree with me.
BLACK LIVES MATTER. ROME HAS WHITE PRIVILEGE.
White guy here. Denzel is based and honorary. Only truly mentally ill wignats could hate him. He’s one of those old school, god fearing blacks who clearly doesn’t care for BLM.
This is your brain on bbc
Romans were swarthy as frick too, people from back then were generally darker thanks to constant sun exposure.
>Romans were swarthy as frick too,
No they weren't. Italy only became swarthy with the Muslim invasions centuries later.
Romans actively traded with and immigrated to sub Saharan Africa and vice versa. There's countless examples of Roman artwork and literature depicting sub Saharan Africans in all walks of Roman life.
Wrong, Romans only settled the coastal region of North Africa. They only traded with the Berbers who were responsible for the sub saharan trade network adn not with the Africans of the interior. Roman expeditions into the Continent were few and far between. However some Romans were in fact aware of their existence thanks to their contact with Nubia through Egypt.
Who do you think the sub-saharans traded slaves with in B.C.?
Berbers, there's no major evidence of major Sub-saharan slave exchange until the Muslim period. In fact, the slave trade declined in the Roman Empire following the third century crisis.
And who did the Berbers sell them to? Literally a third of Rome's population was made up of slaves.
>Literally a third of Rome's population was made up of slaves.
This only happened a few times, and most slaves came from Europe as that's where most of Rome's wars were fought. Rome's population also heavily fluctuated and after the Empire wide proclamation of citizenship, the role of slavery greatly diminished.
ROMANS WERE SLAVE OWNERS. SLAVES BUILT ROME. BLACK LIVES MATTER.
Most slaves in the Roman Period came from the Balkans, the word for "slav" comes from the Greek word for slave.
BLACK LIVES MATTER. ROME HAS WHITE PRIVILEDGE. SLAVES BUILT ROME. ROME TOOK BLACK LIVES FROM THE BALKANS.
You do realize the Romans would side with the slaves over chuds like you, right?
BLACK LIVES MATTER.
>the word for "slav" comes from the Greek word for slave.
No, it doesn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs_(ethnonym)
Black person, can you read?
It's the other way around, the word was taken from the name of a tribe and then it became used to describe slaves and servitude.
It's just Amerimutt monolinguists not understanding that different languages exist.
that's completely wrong but whatever
The Romans were vaguely aware of black Africa but had no significant contact with it. The costs of crossing the Sahara desert are enormous and the potential benefits miniscule. As a republic and empire Rome existed for hundreds of years and over the course of all that time they made only four known exploratory missions into Western black Africa.
They had considerable contact with Nubia and Ethiopia later on, even after the Muslim conquests of Egypt and the Levant. People forget that these lands once traded spices from India as well as exchanged Christian theology
>looks at all the depictions of Africans as everyday citizens in Roman artwork
>"yeah they barely even knew about black people lol"
What % of all known Roman artwork depicts "black" people. What % of those are based on real people.
>looks at all the depictions of Africans as everyday citizens in Roman artwork
huh? Can you show me some examples?
here's a bunch from the Getty museum
>https://www.getty.edu/news/rethinking-descriptions-of-black-africans-in-greek-etruscan-and-roman-art/
The article doubts the "african" origin of these depictions, as well as addresses the simplistic descriptions as assumptions rather than being from the original work. In truth, it's hard to say what these represent and only one is from the Roman period to begin with.
>"Greeks encountered Black Africans through these pathways of exchange and manufacture, and we have rich evidence for this at Naukratis, where the seal was made."
wtf are you talking about lol it states in plain language that classical societies were familiarized with sub Saharan africa
>4 images
>Even amongst them a few are disputed
There are no exact figures but a rough estimate would suggest that we have thousands of pieces of art from ancient Rome not including pottery and coins. In addition, the genetics on ancient Rome is pretty overwhelming. If even modest sized African populations existed in Europe we would be able to detect them with modern DNA testing the way the influx of West Asian DNA into Europe has been. But we can't actually find them. Somehow they disappeared in the middle ages and left behind no genetic legacy.
Source?
There were Romans descended from Gauls as well as Greeks, the Empire was pretty diverse. Kinda like how Europe in general is.
That's just Delroy Lindo.
My guy, there was literally an emperor called "Philip the Arab"
WE
Yikes. Won’t be watching.
BLACK LIVES MATTER. SLAVES BUILT ROME. ROME HAS WHITE PRIVILEGE. BLACK LIVES MATTER.
I think using black actors for white historical figures is moronic, but I'm also incredibly sick of chuds b***hing.
We're using a modern perception of Africa to portray a historic African. What are we going to do, resurrect the Phonecian ethnicity?
>What are we going to do, resurrect the Phonecian ethnicity?
Levantine, Arab or North African actor, easy
Casting their exterminators? That's pretty fricked up.
I don't mean to blow your mind here, but all Romans considered themselves to be former slaves. It was part of their (national?) identity.
Thats not true at all. They considered themselves the Sons of Mars
It's true. Go read about it. Saturnalia is a good place to start.
Its not true at all but whatever. You wont be honest even if we do debate the nuances of saturnalia or other festivals
>I get all my information from wikipedia
Read Cicero homosexual
If you wish to humilliate yourself further, I implore you to do it somewhere else. I don't care. Go read about their customs like a proper anthropologist.
>I dont know jackshit so please go prove my argument for me
Truly a scholar of integrity
usually id be mad but its denzel
Denzel is such a has-been in the first place. It's going to be terrible on that alone, even if you have no issue with the historical revisionism and racial replacement (in which case you're a fool)
How long until the entire cast are shitskins?
All they do is steal white culture, history, and civilization to compensate for their own failures.
Hannibal was also 29 and not fricking 60
>amerimutt education still teaches morons that all africans are all literal sub-saharan africans and that hannibal wasn't "white"
lmao these are the people you're having race debates with online
Hannibal wasnt white. Phoenicians were semites. You are doing the exact same thing black people do by claiming everyone is secretly indo-european