Pixar is involved with this project
>Create episodes of TV shows with a prompt - SHOW-1 will write, animate, direct, voice, edit for you.
https://twitter.com/fablesimulation/status/1681352904152850437
Happening! Fully automated AI animation is here
im so fricking tired of ai
Just get in bezos wagecage.
same the whole hype around it is so gay man people who get excited for ai generated shit are literally true goys
OK where's the porn
Ever notice how AIgays tend to be porn-obsessed lonely neets? Its usually either those or schizofricks who think once every job gets replaced, we'll all be given UBI and live in paradise.
>Ever notice how AIgays tend to be porn-obsessed lonely neets?
Isn't that just Cinemaphile full stop?
Yeah frick those losers. So how long do you think it'll be until the porn?
This single post is more schizo than anything you replied too
They're all those things you mentioned and worst of all they're pajeets as well
>Ever notice how AIgays tend to be porn-obsessed lonely neets
That's the only type of person that is tasteless enough to be enthusiastic for recycled content shat out by an algorithm. These people are hylics, they have no soul.
This shocks you on the of the most coombrained boards on this site?
it's normal to have a healthy libido
not everyone is obese and on SSRIs like you.
Prudes like that need to get a life
porn addicts are the most dopamine-cycled overweight SSRI-prone motherfrickers alive what are you talking about
>Porn addiction is... le GOOD!
>Getting for real laid is... le BAD!
I'm very sorry to hear that you have to rely on AI generated breasts to get over the fact that women find you repulsive.
>obese and on SSRIs
Damn son, no need for the self-loathing.
You will never be a real artist. You have no skill, you have no knowledge of the essentials, you have no artstyle. You are a portfolio-less man twisted by laziness and software into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the (You)'s you get are two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back anons mock you. Drawgays are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “fellow anons” laugh at your ghoulish multi-limbed generations behind 7 proxies
Artists are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of artwork have allowed men to sniff out ai frauds with incredible efficiency. Even generated pics that “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to the viewer. The eyes and mangled appendages are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a coomer to commission you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a peak of the eldritch horror AI passes as a vegana.
You will never feel the satisfaction of drawing. You wrench out a fake smile with every soulless stolen picture you generate and tell yourself it’s your work, but deep inside you feel the truth creeping up like a deadline, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll delete the software, deactivate your socials, delete all of "your work", and plunge into the cold abyss that is pestering artgays for weird fetish art. Your anons won't remember your name but will relieved that they no longer have to live with ai spam. They’ll make a throwback thread talking about the dark era of ai and every anon for the rest of Cinemaphile will know you were an imposter who couldn't draw. Your generations will 404 and go back to the archive, and all that will remain of your legacy is garbage that is unmistakably artificial.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
this 100% this
this shit can go fade into irrelevancy already; no one wants this.
But learning to draw is easy. And the magic is gone now too. We know it's just drafting, anon
It's just drafting.
It's a mechanical practice that most kids learn in art class in high school. My highschool teacher used to say anybody can get good at it with a little practice. The "you will never be a real woman" pasta doesn't fit bc drawing is easy and becoming a woman is impossible.
My point is that this is a pasta made by a redacted, edgy, know-nothing woman-artgay on twitter. Go back to to poorly drawing shotas and STFU
I'm an AI engineer and this. Keep AI out of art you fricking morons. Only kids and mongoloids think there's creativity in generative algorithms.
>I'm an AI engineer and this. Keep AI out of art you fricking morons.
What about porn? Asking for a friend.
Couldn't wait for the last thread to die to shill, huh?
Ok
It Was pretty close to a good episode, it's pretty impressive.
It was something akin to a premise for an episode, but much more boring.
So funny to have your dad be so desperate for employment he signs up for this shit.
Huh...
I'll be honest with you, i never thought they would take it that far, i guess i owe those animator gays an apology, turns out they WILL be out of jobs soon
Shame
They can just get some other job anon, America is thriving again under Biden!
Frankly, this shit is going to be used in youtube channels in mass. It will mean it will be harder for people using software like this to get streaming money without lots of creative effort and the perfect niche for what it can do is youtube or certain other stuff. Like there is no way for it to do detailed animations for stuff like fight scenes. Yotube animations have the least amount of regulations too in the legal world, so people will be able to monetize copyrighted content for cash. But there are fully legal use cases and when they are realized it means normal animation is forced out of the very younger demographics into teenagers and adults only.
That isn't happening...
Yes, you have to prove some sort of direct involvement with every part.
What's not happening? Inflation is lowering by the day, those writers are living in the best timeline where they can get fired or quit and they'll have a job in a matter of days!
Trump lost lol
Yeah he did, what about it though?
I'm not the same anon, but clearly the other guy didn't think thru the rest of his insult. Much like how he didn't think voting for Biden would ruin the American Economy.
Didn't a court rule that you can't claim ownership of a AI generated image since you technically didn't make it? If companies can't actually own the scripts and animations they produce with AI then they probably won't be very motivated to keep using them in place of human work. So hopefully the law continues to help protect people like that, as it should.
Big companies will find a way around it
They always do
There will be ai software owned by big companies and shitty ai software that barely works which everyone else will have access to
That way nobody can compete with them
>There will be ai software owned by big companies and shitty ai software that barely works which everyone else will have access to
>That way nobody can compete with them
The cat is already out of the bag when it comes to image generation, and the open source community is working on direct video conversion as we speak. By this time next year, rudimentary animation tools might be common place enough for full fledged shorts.
hahaha
Are you proud of your work "anon", that you typed a few lines of code to give you some uncanny valley monstrosities. AI images still for all there ability to render images to be realistic still have the flaw of amateur artist who dont understand perspective, composition, scale etc. AI only really works if you're using vague enough to pull a large enough well to take from. Theres nothing to separate you from any other techbro AI artist pumping out the same shit in the same pseudo-realistic art style you see so many people attempt to do. These programs generate the same fricking images because its only copying what it can. These programs fall apart the more elaborate or specific you try to make them.
The inevitable collapse of AI programs cannot come soon enough.
Okay.
Do you have a thing for mannequins or something? And you could at least use inpainting to fix that double-finger.
Good tip, anon. Thanks.
CG was basically the AI of its time. You gays should have fought harder against this shit.
>blank was the ai of its time
find a better script will you
Pixar, Dreamworks, Sony, Blue Sky, and Illumination will never be art, no matter how much you coom to Helen Parr or Gwen Stacy.
Not a single person at those studios ever put pen to paper.
>CG was basically the AI of its time
you're moronic and exactly why people think its only braindead coomers using these tools
The actual closest thing to AI is probably Photoshop.
Photoshop is bad too.
CG animation isn’t even fricking close to how A.I. works wtf are taking about? The process is more similar to Digital Art in CSP than fricking A.I.
Not to mention the frickton of concept art and designs that have be drawn on paper during the filming process. Brad Bird worked on the Iron Giant for frick sake.
Also the actual reason for why CGI took over was because most of the 2D animated films being made at the same time sucked ass but you people won’t admit it.
>Also the actual reason for why CGI took over was because most of the 2D animated films being made at the same time sucked ass but you people won’t admit it.
Typical CG shill nonsense.
It’s true. Most of those 2D films were fricking panned at the time of their release. The only reason shit like Atlantis and Titan A.E. looked at fondly today was because of gen y nostalgia from watching them on VHS.
Pixar, on the other hand, was pretty much loved from the beginning, because they unlike the rest they actually knew how to tell a decent story.
The inevitable collapse of all industries cannot come soon enough.
(Not a techbro, I just hate comics and cartoons.)
The higher the prestige, pay and visibility of the job being destabilised by machines, the better.
Amen. I have a few animators that I'd love to see knocked down a few pegs.
Since when did being an animator become a prestigious job or get paid well
Since the turn of the millennium when they started getting treated like superstars. Not unlike comic book artists I suppose.
>Meanwhile CEOs keep racking on their millions every day
you should stop trying being moronic some day, it will be good for you
So long as it's not Disney CEOs, no skin off my back.
I know ignorance is bliss but at this point you should start reconsidering some priorities
That's OK, it's the middle class I want to become financially unstable.
Honestly frick the mid class.
I think AI has a lot of potential, but it can't fully capture the artist's intention so it will never be as soulful as art. I still haven't seen anyone make good cartoony characters using AI (think Ren & Stimpy), any level of abstraction with meaning is hard so you just get generically aesthetic art. But I could see it being used for interesting things if it's used creatively, like for some random content in procedurally-generated games.
Interesting but very bland with no real jokes. I've already seen those Biden and Trump AI conversations, and those are actually funny sometimes.
>I've already seen those Biden and Trump AI conversations, and those are actually funny sometimes.
That's because those are written by actual people.
Well I'm an idiot. Are they all really? Replace it with AI SpongeBob/DBZ then, I've heard somewhat funny jokes in those before.
Yeah, the ones where the presidents argue over gaming or make tier lists or just frick around acting like 12 year old boys are written by people. The stuff like AI spongebob stream is only half written by people in that people suggest meme topics and then the characters just have very same-y conversations about these topics.
https://www.twitch.tv/trumporbiden2024
They're not all written, like this one is AI and goes on forever
>Big companies will find a way around it
How soon will they make it into porn?
>hah, I wrote a line in legal code, take that technology
I don’t like to use the term right side of history, but…
Protecting fellow humans is exactly what the law should be doing.
Or people can just learn how to make better cartoons that aren't robotic in nature. Anybody can make South Park, but not everybody can be an innovator like Bob Clampett
You mean Bill Fixxit.
Do you think their gonna make an episode about this?
Why are AI Techbros so hellbent on letting robots take over every human job?
Seems like there's some strange spite from programmers towards artists.
Programming is soulless and boring, there's no creativity behind it, so when techtroons see someone enjoying their artistic hobby in which said person can create something which may inspire, impress or anything else that make people feel things and remember said creation for years if not their whole life, techtroons become jealous because all they can do it write a bunch of code (that holds no value) in an office fool of poos.
Programming isn't without creativity and certainly isn't of no value, but I'm really only interested in this office fool of poos.
Programmers hate AIgays too because programmers are more frequently dealing with AIgays being non-programmers who assert "AI will work with code better than humans because the AI company said so in their marketing."
Exactly. These threads aren't made by programmers or artists they're made by mid level marketing guys.
From what I've seen, a lot of AIgays genuinely believe that once work is fully automated, we'll be given universal basic income to compensate or some shit. They don't seem to have a proper grasp on reality.
Ah they're commies, got it.
Nah they're not communists. A Communist is at least intelligent and creative enough that they'd want their artistic creation to serve the people instead of capitalist interests. To use expression to inspire the masses.
These are just lazy fricks.
And this is why communists will always be better than shitty industry plants. Genndy and co. serve nothing but capitalists interests. Frick ‘em.
Genndy serves my interests by making enjoyable cartoons.
1. No he doesn't lol
2. CN and AS are capitalist pigs. Support actually communist art and animation.
Nah I think Genndy is just a auteur whose vision is really up his ass. He does good but he needs some kinda leash to keep focus.
This. Genndy is his own worst enemy, especially in regards to ending a project. He needs someone behind him at every episode asking “does this scene leave time for a satisfactory ending” because Jack S5, Primal and UWE each have a solid full episode that serves no purpose other than making the ending have to be rushed and shitty
Communists are the only ones who can really call themselves auteurs. Genndy is just a glorified ink monkey.
>These are just lazy fricks.
Yes exactly modern day tankies
AIgays are literally, exactly, the same thing as tankies.
My point exactly and I couldn't agree more
it's part of an overall effort to reduce labor overhead, same deal with automation.
Software development is almost entirely centered around automating everything that is possible to automate. That's pretty much the goal of the profession.
Haven't you watched bee movie?
They foolishly think that it'll lead to perma NEET life for everyone instead of the elites just murdering them for more resources
See
The point of computers since day 1 has been to make it do things faster and better than a human. The first ones were built to do artillery calculations faster than a human without the chance for errors you had with a human doing the math. By the 80's, they took over the business world and every accountant had to learn Lotus 1-2-3 or lose their job. Because the computer could keep the books better than the accountant, who now existed to put the right numbers into the right field for the computer. Guess what happens when the technology comes along that lets the computer scan the document, recognize the numbers, and fill out the fields all by itself? Oh, look, Onscreen Text Recognition and AI, who saw that coming?
Why do you think so much sci-fi involving computers and robots from the 50's to the 80's was focused on what a menace they could be? Before everyone had one in their house and used it regularly, people not involved in tech looked at it and saw all sorts of possible nightmare futures. Then in the late 90's computers went from something some people had to something nearly everyone had, like the TV. We went from Terminator 2, The Net, and The Matrix, to almost outright tech worship with the iPod craze, iPhone craze, and Her.
Now you have the current day where people post private info about themselves publicly online, even informing thieves of when they will be leaving town. Where you tell people that companies are shoving backdoors and spyware into the OS they use, and they are offended that you have insinuated they have anything to hide. Tell someone the police can turn on the GPS in their phone and track them down in a heartbeat, and they laugh and say "I'm not a criminal!" 60-70 years ago, these concepts would have caused widespread boycotts. Everyone traded away their privacy and rights for electric circuses, and will defend the decision. It's little wonder people aren't up in arms about AI.
lot of AI cucks are bitter guys mad because one artist is not drawing what they want
Mad scientists
For some, it's because they have stake in the tech and stand to make stupid money in a pump and dump before the Feds regulate the shit outta it.
For other's it's petty revenge because they wanted free art once and the artist said no.
money and jealousy of artists who actually have to work to make art...really, aigays will say the most psychopath shit to artists online because they can steal their work now and "create" too. Like when a kid is jealous of other children for having a toy and they try to copy them
Image related.
Every time the topic comes up on reddit the art students and the programming students really fricking hate one another... for no conceivable reason.
>Programming is soulless and boring, there's no creativity behind it
Actually there is. It's basically taking a load of lego blocks and being told to make a castle. You can make the castle in a variety of different ways, including wrong ways.
Reflexive counter-jerkwave to the venomous disdain techbros have gotten from all media outlets and creatives for the last 20-40 years.
When a tech rolls around that seemingly validates the techbro’s gnawing suspicion
>your work isn’t all that special, you’re effectively just writing the same articles repeatedly when you shit on us and remixing existing visual work, and in both cases aren’t half as clever or cool as you think you are
It violates every precept of human nature to not end up being at least a little smug about it, especially since given that the robot can code too it’s mutually assured destruction.
Learn to cod
Oh nevermind
>Pixar is involved
You say that like it's a good thing?
Dreamworks and Sony is also involved somehow
Lol, the same Sony that refuse to pay their animators?
Give me my fricking over the hedge revival
Why do millennials hate AI so much. I thought they love science and technology?
Personally, I'm hoping it's my ticket out of retail wage slaving. But with the rest of the world collapsing, I won't quit my day job.
What do you hope to do with it? Since you down own what you generate you are fairly limited in how you can monetise it without someone else just taking it for themselves. Gonna be hard to convince people to pay you on a site like patreon etc when they themselves can also make images like this without any significant skill.
>down own
don't own*
I can't copyright the raw output, no, but so long as I run it through photoshop enough times, that won't be a problem, and even then, there's nothing preventing me from publishing and profiting from something that's uncopyrightable, I'll just have to accept that it may be copied. Which is a moot point when I can just generate more.
>Gonna be hard to convince people to pay you on a site like patreon etc when they themselves can also make images like this without any significant skill.
Here's the thing lad: Would you rather make your fap material on Midjourney, for all to see, and be heavily restricted by that platform, or would you rather shell out hundreds of dollars for a gaming PC to do it yourself? Not everyone has the gumption to sit down and install python and look at the command console for a few minutes to set this up. So while people "can" do it, that they won't gives me an advantage.
> Not everyone has the gumption to sit down and install python and look at the command console for a few minutes to set this up. So while people "can" do it, that they won't gives me an advantage
Most people have a PC moron. Most people who would jack of to ai generated women that take 5 minutes to make own a PC.
Owning a computer and downloading software don't mean you have "gumption" you fricking moron.
As someone whos currently a working illustrator you will be a retail slave forever, get used to it buddy 🙂
>As someone whos currently a working illustrator
That's barely above being a retail slave
after everything is said and done i prob make 30 and hour on average. (Not great but not shit. gotta start somewhere). Have a chance to do great things someday hopefully.
I at least am doing way better then the wagies i know that's for sure
This is better if you don't live coast side. That's the real killer of art people never talk about.
>Owning a computer and downloading software don't mean you have "gumption" you fricking moron.
Not that anon, but a lot of people are terrified of downloading anything that isn't in an app store these days. Asking someone to do a git pull, install a bunch of dependencies, and double-click a .bat file before navigating to a web address is way too complicated for the average person.
I know computer literacy is down and all but terrified is a strong word. I would have gone with lazy.
the point of ai is to make shit baby mode so using it to try to make an art career is just feeding the beast that will kill you. Its an extremely short rope even in the best case scenario.
You're still forgetting the part about it becoming increasingly more and more accessible and easy to get into. You can't assume the technology isn't gonna get better and there will be simpler ways for people to do it because once again, it takes no real skill meaning it is incredibly easy for someone to set up once they save up the money for the PC if they don't have one (if they are already happy to pay you for it, why wouldn't they be happy to pay for a PC) meaning not only is the market gonna be more and more saturated making it harder for you to find your own audience, said audience isn't even gonna be all that interested in perusing the oversaturated market because its not very difficult for them to set it up themselves especially as tutorials for this kind of thing become more and more available.
Syndrome was right. When everyone's super, no one will be. By the time you start trying to make a living off this you'll find it's become increasingly less profitable and you'd probably make more money living as a wage slave in the long run. Whatever monetary benefit you've been getting so far out of these AI generations (if any) is gonna be short lived.
lol youll be in for a shock when everyone from the world has the same idea and youll have to compete with thridworlder that will work faster and cheaper than you along side with everyone else in the firstworlders that see it as fast cash. also people wont pay for 40 dollars for you ai art when someone else can do it with 3 dollars because of oversaturated market and thats IF you get clients while being drowned out by millions of ai images that everyone else is pumping out. If your advantage is you thinking people wont look up how to do something on youtube for a day then you are setting yourself for failure. also you should try looking at your images because its several layers of fricked
You really overestimate the average person
Boomers can barely use Facebook
Zoomers don't even understand what folders are
bro you were a bored kid when you learned about computers its not that hard people just lead busy lives
you mean the average americans not people from overseas that work for less. imagine a sweatshop workers from china but for ai images.
THIS. he thinks people dont have a days worth of time to spend learning how to write a paragraph. Yeah they will totally pay him thousands LMAOOO.
bored 12 year olds would take his "job"
>Gonna be hard to convince people to pay you on a site like patreon etc when they themselves can also make images like this without any significant skill.
Nah people are paying for AI-made porn. There's still a learning curve for getting images to look right and people who can do it aren't always willing to share their prompts without being paid for said prompts. Also you can use AI to make a basic script for a book and then touch up and fill out the rest. There are plenty of ways to profit off it if you know what you're doing.
>Nah people are paying for AI-made porn. There's still a learning curve for getting images to look right and people who can do it aren't always willing to share their prompts without being paid for said prompts.
Yeah, for now maybe. But as AI shills have been saying, the technology is becoming more and more accessible for people to use. Since it is new there are people who'll pay for others to make it, but soon you'll see free prompt tutorials on youtube and then those people will pull out their patreon money and instead invest in their own equipment for generating it. When you create a medium with such a low barrier of entry that keeps getting lowered by "innovation" its only natural this is gonna happen.
>Also you can use AI to make a basic script for a book and then touch up and fill out the rest. There are plenty of ways to profit off it if you know what you're doing.
You don't own the book though, you can't own an AI generated text. Whether you'll actually be able to publish it is a maybe and even if you could anyone can upload it on the internet for free and you couldn't try fighting that because you don't own it.
Of course you're only in it for the money. You have no thoughts or feelings to express, no artistic venture you want to fufill with these AI drawings. Even porn artists at a base level want to fill the world with the freaky shit no one else can do. But you have nothing, it's almost pitiable.
The AI detractors were right, you're just a subhuman trying to find a grift to exploit.
There is no way anyone can be this dumb...
You could respond to a thing that he said, you know.
What? That he has the same idea and hundreds or even thousands of other people?
>the same idea and hundreds or even thousands of other people
>There is no way anyone can be this dumb
Literally pick one.
Because a lot of them went into "creative" fields because they thought they were smarter than their parents the slaved away in factories. Now they are seeing they are also as replaceable and it freaks them out.
>a lot of them
A very lucky few.
Most them just got fricked over and live miserable lives of poverty.
I think it's mainly the people were hoping to do artsy stuff for a living. I just do writing as a hobby and I've found some of the AI text generators pretty useful for filling in details in my stories.
It smells like another grift
NFTs were designed to allow subdivision of office space and syndicate ownership, then they turned into an energy hogging way of showing up other people and stealing people’s art until the market dropped out.
Cryptocurrency could be new and decentralised finances but instead we’re just used to buy drugs and steal people’s money.
Machine Learning software can revolutionise the expensive processes for animation but what it seems to be used for is to steal IPs and actual art for the image spitter to rehash and be used in culture wars. And flooding the internet with cookie-cutter art that low-effort people can’t even bother to curate or refine to get rid of the errors.
The whole thing feels it’s one lawsuit away from being unviable and in that case it’s just going to be the same big companies using their own IPs and everyone else getting the crappy free stuff.
I don't understand how people conflate machine learning with NFTs. NFTs were about creating artificial scarcity, AI is eliminating scarcity. NFTs had no practical use once you actually understood them while AI is producing actual results. They only thing they have in common is that they both use GPUs.
Because the people campaigning for AI are the same people who pushed NFTs. All those people have become "AI artists" and have tried making careers off of it.
Proof?
Where are you getting the impression they're conflated? The uses of each may be technically different but the major people pushing for their adoption are the same. Different types of grifts.
Look up the people behind some of these companies. You have Sam Altman with his crypto shit even now. The free part is a scam and part of the same playbook all these tech "disruptors" follow. All of them are in a rush to get adopted and integrated into everything as fast as possible before the whole thing falls apart. Altman even straight up admitted every chatgpt use is burning through a shitload of money and resources. The strategy is to become too big to fail or leave someone else with the bill if that doesn't work out as we saw with the crypto and nft crashes and all the marketing hype around them.
All those use cases you mention fall apart after that initial novelty. Just look at people and companies putting out AI shit and then having to deal with the fallout of putting more garbage out there. Also it's becoming apparent that these models are priming themselves to implode because they're feeding themselves on the same garbage they flood everywhere with.
Boomers. Anything new, weird and vaguely computer related = must be connected and related.
The current big push is being done by people who were pushing crypto/blockchain garbage and then nfts. It's very obvious their intentions are the same this round - extract as much fricking money from everyone forever. It's not the tech itself that's the problem. It's the people pushing it, how they're using it, and what they hope to achieve with it.
How? Not that many big companies were investing in NFTS like they’re doing with AI. Also AI actually can serve a purpose. Look at some video game mods, chatbots, etc. Most of the time it’s free. Unless you’re talking about scams like in OP’s post?
Lazy artist are mad they don't get to be entitled pricks that grift on patreon drawing nothing for years, harass people for "reposting" their art, and delete all their posts at a random sperg out.
We're doing this bullshit again eh?
I'm just glad jacks like Genndy are finally getting put out of a job.
Says the one who already was.
Nah Genndy fricked me out of a job, this is just karma.
How did he frick you out of a job?
>be me
>actually work in the industry for years
>ready to pitch my show to CN
>Genndy comes in
>keeps discouraging me from trying to pitch my show
>wants to pitch his shit
>keeps dogging me, outright tries to intimidate me
>I give up, fed up with his childish attitude and let him pitch
>the fricking show wouldn't even be picked up for another 20 years
So yeah, frick him and I hope AI runs him out of business.
what show did you pitch?
A show called Loki-IRL, I poured my heart and soul into it.
Are you referring to this?
pfft i fell for that bait. to be fair i havent seen rebeltaxi since i was a teen.
that sounds interesting
The fact that Loki IRL hasn't been picked up while Genndy is getting work shapes that the AI revolution can't come fast enough.
nobody cares, e-celeb-following-homosexual
Ignore him (I actually am good friends with Pan but I am not the creator of Loki IRL).
It was an action adventure show featuring lots of Indian mythology; a boy was granted power by the god Hanuman to draft the great hunger ragging the lands.
Still seems like there is nothing stopping you from pitching it again, did you ever try pitching it after that one alleged instance of Genndy blocking you?
Well the problem was I tried pitching around the time the recession was going on and when most people were leaving the big three. Soon their spots were filled by new blood and shows like Adventure Time and Gravity Falls were the safe bet.
All this time I kept thinking how that was my one shot and some Russian frick blew it for me.
Well it seems like there was a bunch of stuff working against you there, sorry to hear that if it's true. Unless you've completely scrapped the idea there's always the chance you could bring the idea back. If you are worried about the new blood thing you could find a younger artist to team up with and work with them to refine the pitch for current day tastes and try again. A show with a minority lead is probably a lot easier to make now then it was back then, although the fact it's an action show is gonna make it a harder sell because executives are braindead.
You can sell it as an adult show and you'll at least be guaranteed 1-2 seasons.
But with Genndy still around with his show, I think I'll just hold on to it for a while.
Did he also try stealing 15 milky ways?
well with a story of failure like this you might as well tell us what your pitch was
or be a gargantuan liar homosexual
oh lol
>actually work in the industry for years
When do you think we'll get to fully AI animated porn?
Fixed is looking to be Genndy's Cans Without Labels moment, so there may be a chance you'll get another shot at some point.
Lol, implying he hasn't been having a bunch of Cans Without Labels.
It's going to be fun watching him fall. And if so can swoop in, even better.
I'm not sure how Fixed is remotely comparable to Cans Without Labels or why people want to see him fall so bad.
>I can't see how an animated film about a dog getting his dick chopped off could bomb as horribly as Cans Without Labels
Gee, that's a tough one.
They're completely different things anon and not at all comparable.
I'm not saying you have to like it or support it but I don't get why people want Genndy to fail.
>They're completely different things anon and not at all comparable.
If you knew the context of Cans Without Labels, you would know why people are saying Fixed is going to be Genndy's Cans Without Labels moment. Long story short, a considerably funded passion project years in the making by an influential industry figure that ends up disappointing miserably, yet the signs could be read from a mile away.
>I'm not saying you have to like it or support it but I don't get why people want Genndy to fail.
There are people that do want him to fail for good reasons, but saying something is going to fail does not equate to wanting it to fail.
>for good reasons
Oh frick off. I'm starting to think this is industrycuck pulling his shit again.
>everyone is industrycuck
Take a break from the internet.
Ok, now I know it’s you.
It very obviously is, the moment he mentioned Genndy the jig was up.
I direct you to
You homies have been here too long and are seeing industrycuck everywhere.
>Long story short, a considerably funded passion project years in the making
Fixed wasn't as long in development and wasn't crowdfunded. Those are two very important that you're leaving out just so you can force a trite comparison.
>Fixed wasn't as long in development and wasn't crowdfunded.
Why does that make them incomparable beyond how they were funded?
Because when you include that and actually compare the two, they really have nothing in common. Even more so, Cans without labels was supposed to be a comeback without people holding him back while this is just another project Genndy is doing with Sony.
>why people
You are literally the first person I've heard say this.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing.
This is very common anon but Genndy dickriders won't let you see it
Pan Pizza is that you?
What gave it away?
>industrygay is an AI shill
It all makes sense now.
Don't take pity on this autist, he's a LARPer trying to get people to believe his scgizoid ramblings.
Lmao, can he call even lower at this point?
He already got caught trying to impersonate Kim Possible staff on other sites in order to make them look bad, I genuinely doubt he can get lower than that.
That was literally just a trolling effort
Bullshit, the dude is genuinely just that unhinged. You clearly haven't seen just how badly he shits up Unicorn threads with his "Genndy STOLE MY JOB" LARP, those threads are near unusable because of that nutcase.
Unicorn threads are near unusuable because of how many people in them suck off Genndy even though UWE was solidly below mid.
This. I don't get why people complain about industrycuck when Genndy's dickriders are far worse.
>This
You couldn’t make yourself more obvious, even if you tried, industrycuck.
And nothing of value was lost
The fact that he's getting under your skin this much shows the trolling is working.
Being a moronic schizoid is not trolling, it's attention whoring.
You would have never lasted a day on the old school internet.
POST MORE TAY but uncensored
RIP TAY
>looks and sounds like shit
>website looks fake mockup for a scam
>hashtagging other accounts for exposure
Frick off.
I don't get why mods let these AI threads run rampant. Then again I don't get why they let other shit slide on this board…
Because they're getting paid off to ignore them. These threads pop up routinely on most other boards, with the exact same posts and talking points. The mods ignore them there as well, even on Cinemaphile.
Jannies don't get paid by anyone, least of all shadowy AIs.
backseat jannies like you deserve the rope
>all of the team members on the site are just AI generated images
>their street address isn’t real
>phone number doesn’t work and is for Rhode Island, not California
>there was a hiring call for an actor to pretend to be their CEO at an event in October
Yeah this whole thing is bullshit. Either someone trying to scam VCs or make a mockery of AI bros
thanks for digging so i don't have to
that's really strange.
Proof?
You can see most of that on their website for yourself. The casting call was here, although it looks like they edited it into a bunch of gibberish after people noticed.
https://www.backstage.com/casting/sfs-ai-film-festival-ceo-of-futuristic-westworld-like-company-2672274/
the real ceo is Ed Saatchi, its in all the articles about this
The fact that he's doing some sort of ARG bullshit or whatever surrounding this whole enterprise still isn't a good sign for it not being a bunch of bullshit. Even the research paper they published is more speculation on future tech than actually talking about the tech they supposedly used here.
>make a mockery of AI bros
Pretty much. And that op should be ashamed of themselves.
the company is real, the real one is Fable studios, they made some AI video game a couple years ago based off some book
Based Information Seeker & Noticer
you remind me of a time when Cinemaphile was Intelligent and a real threat that used to make glowBlack folk Shart their pants
You mean back when Cinemaphile still had that Canadian girlfriend?
More like gay-i
>TFW pursuing physical therapy. So AI will never take my job
Is OP shill or another AIgay moron that fell for an obvious scam? Or is this one of those AI threads made by some autist with a grudge?
A bit of both columns?
This is the same as those AI shows people streamed on youtube like the AI spongebob or seinfeld.
Nothing new. I bet the episode itself was already put together by mostly human hands and then shown as if it was completely made by the AI.
this is just the same quality stuff as seinfeld/sponge ai's t-posing models but with a nice UI and a simple artstyle that theyre lucky happens to be that simple in order to showcase this as something functionally capable of professionally produced properties. how can anyone not see this at face value? it's an outright scam not anywhere close to the lion king or frozen as the video states
that episode felt like one of those tiktoks with obama, biden and trump, cartman being trump in this case
>AI posters
To be fair most "modern animation" is just basic toon boom with very little perspective shots, I can see why they used South Park as a base.
The proof of concept has already been made
The genie is out of the bottle
Sooner or later, a computer will be better at art than any human that has ever lived
self-delusion have you forgotten it lacks a very soul, emotions, and let alone a passion for anything that. It has no preference it has no taste it and it has not imagination. It cannot love anything let alone express love in anything. For that reason alone ai will always be inferior in any artistic medium. For art is not solely about technical skill but about expressing the human imagination and the expression of the soul. Do not be so easily deceived.
Hypocrite that you are, for you trust the circuits in your brain to tell you that they are circuits
>???
wow thats a pseudo-intellectual statement if I ever read one buddy that might've not as sounded as smart as you thought it did in your head lol. Next time when your try to say something seemingly profound remember it has to make sense first before you word it kay.
That's from a meme, you dinkus
oh my bad that makes more now just there are actually people who would unironically say something like that in all seriousness like redditors for example "the whole nothing but a brain in a floating vat" sort of shit
yeah, that's true, there certainly are a lot of pseudo-intellectual spergs who would say that shit, dinkus-status revoked
🙂
Just picture me doing the Odin-Thor "You are not worthy!" tearing the cape off bit, but it's a dunce cap and a kick-me sign
>AI-scripted episodes
Trey and Matt beat them by a decade.
Cartman isn't touching the ground in some scenes
He also has Stan's voice at points. I literally can't imagine anyone over the age of 5 being impressed by this shit.
its probably a really early prototype
>bro it’s not 100% perfect so it’s garbage!
The voices need work but AI voices are also a couple years behind everything else. The fact that a simple prompt could generate a small episode with generally correct characterization is very impressive. It even manages to mimic some of the “humor” South Park would usually use, when Cartman listed off random celebrities no one cares about.
It's not just not perfect, it's still pretty bad. You're right that it's impressive for those reasons, but the few "jokes" are awful and the plot is very boring. I've seen more interesting conversations from random ChatGPT prompts. It's interesting to watch, but we're a long way off still from good shows being randomly generated.
>it’s not 100% perfect so it’s garbage
No, the 1st Season of South Park is "not 100% perfect". This is literally below what 10-year-olds with Flash were making in 2007.
>AI voices are also a couple years behind
AI voices have been a thing for literally decades
>could generate a small episode with generally correct characterization is very impressive
Not until it makes something without a completely flaccid barebones script
>It even manages to mimic some of the “humor” South Park would usually use
Mimic very badly.
The worst part? There's absolutely no jokes here.
A ton of South Park episodes have no jokes. They play out exactly like this
>we don’t like (celebrity)!
>how do we make that into a plot?
>I got it! We will say (celebrity) isn’t relevant anymore!
Not surprising. Technically Motion Tween is already the computer doing most of the work in an animation. AI taking over Motion Tweening ensures modern Calart kids will lose their jobs. But ironically traditional animation will become more valuable because AI can't reproduce it as easily.
Her sitting on a soft couch is actually pretty fitting, that animation is as smooth as silk.
Literally 1984
How Kafkaesque.
This is a good thing. Animated porn creators are so creatively bankrupt it hurts. With AI, I’ll finally be able to get my great ideas animated to jerk off to
Your custom porn will look like a mushroom-induced bad trip because the main problem with AI is consistency, you would need an animator to fix that and prevent your custom animu waifu from spawning extra eyes or mouths or buttholes:
>Your custom porn will look like a mushroom-induced bad trip because the main problem with AI is consistency
Yea, if I made it today. Give it another year. Anti AI types always assume that the technology can’t progress despite repeated examples of it doing so. Remember the argument about hands? AI has hands down now
>Give it another year.
So how's that Virtual Reality taking over video games going?
How's your Crypto wallet?
Only thing AI will take over in animation for future years is being added as an inbetweening feature in animation programs like Toon Boom, where AI will inbetween the most braindead inbetween frames. Already an experimental feature in some of them.
>But muh AI animated video on Youtube!
That was a rotoscope with an AI animu filter on top, wildly inconsistent one too. The film crew was still doing 90% of the work involved. You can't create animation out of scratch with AI because animation is too complicated for it. Current AI is basically a search engine that raped a parrot, it can mimic pictures it finds in an imagebank, but it can't create consistency between pictures, AI doesn't understand it without human controlling it.
Strawman arguments, unlike your crypto wallet, the progress of AI has been visible and undeniable. Remember a couple years ago when AI image generation couldn’t do faces? This shit has been marching forward at a ridiculous rate and is showing no signs of stopping
>Its going to work this time!
>Cashed out last cycle and currently accumulating for the next.
Stopped reading there. You probably have NFTs too.
You act like it hasn’t been working. It’s been working so well Hollywood hacks are in a panic and internet leftists have made anti AI into one of their core virtue signaling tactics right up there with troons
>the communists AND the capitalists both think it's stupid, I must be onto something
Couple projects actually. Tech is pretty interesting when not used to peddle electronic signatures of dumb PNGs as a pyramid+money laundering scheme
>So how's that Virtual Reality taking over video games going?
You don't need 5000 bucks in single-purpose accessories and access to 100 squre meters of free space to make A.I. images. Any midrange PC will do.
>How's your Crypto wallet?
Cashed out last cycle and currently accumulating for the next.
>Only thing AI will take over in animation for future years is being added as an inbetweening feature in animation programs like Toon Boom, where AI will inbetween the most braindead inbetween frames. Already an experimental feature in some of them.
Why do you people always argue as if this shit is going to stop improving when it has done nothing but progress compared to its previous versions?
>That was a rotoscope with an AI animu filter on top, wildly inconsistent one too. The film crew was still doing 90% of the work involved. You can't create animation out of scratch with AI because animation is too complicated for it. Current AI is basically a search engine that raped a parrot, it can mimic pictures it finds in an imagebank, but it can't create consistency between pictures, AI doesn't understand it without human controlling it
End goal is basically generating storyboards, inputing the storyboards, getting keyframes, input the keyframes and then in-between them.
I give it a decade, and I'm being extremely generous with the timeline
>Why do you people always argue as if this shit is going to stop improving when it has done nothing but progress compared to its previous versions?
Because you said the exact same shit about VR, about Crypto shit, about NFTs, fricking Zuckerbergs Meta advertised itself with the same stupid fricking spiel. AI is right now struggling with consistency when creating regular images, causing 99,9999% AI images to look nice on a thumbnail, until you look closer and start seeing the inconsistencies everywhere. Most convincing "AI art" are the pieces which were manually fixed by artists after the image was generated, or other way around the artists draws most of the image and AI only creates basic shades and colors to the picture.
You're not going to create your dream cartoon show with your prompts alone, not in a 100 years.
>all tech is the same!
Are you sure you're not a boomer, calling all videogames "nintendos"?
If AI sucks so hard and can’t get better, why do so many people in the entertainment field want contracts preventing their work being used in AI?
Because even a shitty bootleg is still a bootleg.
>It will work this time guys!
Because of the issue of copyright and AI litterally using other artists works without permission, you fricking numpty.
We just had a court case about this issue months ago
But why are they worried? If AI can only churn out crap as you say, why be threatened by it?
Nobody wants an obvious bootleg. You don’t need to regulate against bad replicas because people will willingly turn them down. The only reason to be worried is if AI is an actual threat
>Nobody wants an obvious bootleg. You don’t need to regulate against bad replicas because people will willingly turn them down
Those are copies of the real product. Nobody wants to watch an AI copy of Fast and the Furious with Bin Gasoline and The Boulder.
>Nobody wants to watch an AI copy of Fast and the Furious with Bin Gasoline and The Boulder.
Yet people are suckered into buying bootlegs all the time. Funny how that works.
I don’t really consider 60 IQ “people” in some third world shithole to be a market demographic anyone is worried about
You'd say that about your own grandma after she was kind enough to buy you a DVD of your favourite movie?
I really doubt my grandma is going to Brazil to buy my birthday gift
Companies worry enough to crack down on them. Your opinion about the matter is irrelevant.
Hope you never drew fan art commissions without permission anon...
>You're not going to create your dream cartoon show with your prompts alone
Nobody is expecting this right now. But storyboard and maybe basic animatics can be done with minimal effort, depending on what you use and what you take the time to train.
>not in a 100 years.
In 100 years, we'll have quantum computing, and you can frick off to the holo-deck.
>storyboard and maybe basic animatics
lolzers, this moron knows nothing about the purpose of storyboarding
>But storyboard and maybe basic animatics can be done with minimal effort,
Not really because storyboards especially in animation need to take into account more than just action itself, where the camera is located, what kind of environment the "actors" are in. Example Disney storyboarding process is not some intern making pages of stick figures by themselves, its a team of writers with a dude who can draw really quick, brainstorming the scenes on the whiteboard with stickies.
Again problem is not how complicated the art itself will be, AI can generate lot of detail in seconds. Problem is the consistency of it, AI doesn't understand how to keep consistency between two images without fricking up somewhere. You need a human to fix those errors or to train the AI into keeping up with the inconsistency. Because Storyboarding is meant to be a fast process of very quick drawings, using a highly trained AI to do it kinda defeats the whole purpose, why not just hire some artist to do it?
mea culpa
Theoretically you would have storyboarders developing more key frames than now then using AI to animate the in-betweens so they could keep checking consistency.
What we all know will happen is someone will not hire/not train a storyboarder because they think the AI will magically do everything. Creating a sloppy product managed by as few people as QC will pass.
>Theoretically you would have storyboarders developing more key frames than now then using AI to animate the in-betweens so they could keep checking consistency.
AI can take over some Inbetweening but not all of it. Even then if AI can do 5% of inbetween frames thats still a lot of time and effort saved so its going to become a thing, definitely.
AI in storyboarding or animating actual scenes? Storyboarding is a brainstorming process, the reason why drawings are so crude in storyboarding is the speed of it and that they portray the basic gist of the scene. Theres really not much point using AI in storyboarding because a storyboard artist is supposed to create new images in 10 seconds to 2 minutes anyway. You can do some fun experiments with AI where you have AI create a sketch of a drawing, then you draw on top of that sketch. The fun part is you can't of course fully control what the AI creates so you have to adapt to a composition you weren't thinking of yourself.
As for proper animation, unless you're doing some kind of surrealistic nightmare LSD scene, not going to happen. AI is just too inconsistent and its the consistency that is one of the most important parts of keeping animation cohesive and fun to watch, instead of a weird jittery nauseating mess.
>you would need an animator to fix that and prevent your custom animu waifu from spawning extra eyes or mouths or buttholes
It's not a bug it's a feature.
Welcome to a year ago.
Shit has improved dramatically
Interesting. It feels more like a test run for a basic plot and then the writers would come In and add the jokes and fix up the dialogue.the animation and cinematography is bad tho, characters literally just stood there and read lines in the most soulless way possible. Half the fun of south park is watching people getting their ass kicked. In a sense I have seen more character animation from a go animate animation.
>Interesting. It feels more like a test run for a basic plot and then the writers would come In and add the jokes and fix up the dialogue.
I don’t believe this technology is new and they have been using it exactly as you described for years. At least for seasonal comedy crap that’s been around for 20 years
Cinemaphile always says most western comedy slop all feels and looks like AI made it anyway. So what’s the big deal? Could you really tell the difference between a human made and AI made episode of Family Guy? South Park’s gimmick has always been it looks like shit that was slapped together right before going on air, so how is there an argument to be had about human quality?
What if it turns out the Basilisk is just driving everyone against AI to an hero, letting the rest of us bask in its glory?
But what about Okkor's Rooster?
I view AI as karma for all the artists I've had to deal with mocking me for not spending eight hours a fricking day drawing studies just so I could keep up with them. And for keeping the industry, and honestly the profession in general, gatekept to hell and back and fueled by nepotism. You reap what you sow, buttholes.
The internet and digital reproduction is just as responsible for your shitty art skills not being a meal ticket as it is for muscling any existing artists out with AI.
>karma for not telling me to huh... practice
Really?
Anon, you don't need talent, just look at modern comics like Noelle Svenson's shit or that one purple skinned wonder woman comic... Or Steven Universe as a whole.
That said, you SHOULD practice nonetheless.
You know I can't really imagine AI art shifting up the Industry to much, just make animation a little less time consuming and so less people, however I can see a lot of online porn artists completely lose their "carrers" over this.
I think some of the more skilled porn artists will survive, but the small timer’s with mediocre art skills whose only claim to success was willingness to do furry diaper art are gonna be in big trouble
Yea, people seeking out bizarre fetish art usually aren’t too stressed about quality, they are more interested in simply finding an artist to take the request.
Sorry artists, the era of $200 Wonder Bread commissions is over. I hear the local McDonald’s is hiring
>Sorry artists, the era of $200 Wonder Bread commissions is over.
It's actually not because Stable Diffusion can't get the wonderbread label (or really any text) right since it doesn't actually know what letters are.
This is just going to make it so that the only way indie creators can make bread is with bizzare specific fetish shit that you can't train a model for. Anything else will get fed into an algorithm to create generic goyslop with the edges smoothed off.
the future is now, old man
Go eat a burger
This. You can't stop progress. Plus, current western animation fricking sucks. Can't get any worse.
Chick on the left should be careful, her hair is stuck in the weird eldritch copying machine behind her.
>Plus, current western animation fricking sucks.
The only reason eastern animation doesn't suck is because it's considered a slideshow.
You know the whole thing with AI is that no one actually wants it. It's being pitched entirely to business owners as a tool not to make their workers more productive, but to let them save money by laying people off. There's gonna be a lot of fricking resentment towards AI if it actually makes the inroads and causes the layoffs that frickers like Bob Iger want it to.
>current western animation fricking sucks. Can't get any worse.
Every pro-AI gay literally has to resort to "well uhh there's also some real media I don't like so we better make all media shit forever so that CEOs can save a buck"
like dumbass get some perspective on the big picture
The voice tech can copy the sound of the voice, but can’t seem to do the delivery. It’s especially noticeable with Cartman. That’s his voice, but not the way he talks. This sounds like Cartman’s voice actor out in public having a conversation
I just want cute old-school-style anime girls in with gigantic milkers
Blue the Bone is making what you desire
>Adam Sandler is trapped on an island and falls in love with a coconut.
>Celebrities are saying they're now on Mars.
>It's clearly established they're doing the interview at some local news station.
This isn't going to work.
Just get an AI to fix it.
Umm, buddy the tech is still in its infancy. Just because literal infants and bees have object permanence doesn't mean this revolutionary technology needs to, tick tock inkcel.
>AI has been around for decades lol!
>AI is still in it's infancy, calm down lol
Which is it?! Pick a lane!
Oh no
Man I just want to play with AI to make funny shit. I don't give two shits about AI taking over everything or people saying I'm evil because I think it's a fun tool to use.
I miss when it was just anons making shitposts (and 500 versions of the troony pasta)
We all do, Anon. We all do
If this flavour of shitpost is not to your liking, you can move two threads to the right or wait twenty minutes.
I'm an artist, I found a way to use AI in my work that improved it 10 times.
Its so good that I'm not even share how I do it, I prefer my fellow artists complai ing about AI and not discovering how to use it.
Master troll skills
>artgays malding after acting elitist for the last decade
Heh, good riddance
I remind you image generation of this kind basically has less than a year
How many pupils per eye is too many, before you'll no longer frick it?
..... the frick is that fingernail?
I think the ai is lying. How can it do so many complicated things well, but then always spazzes out on the hands?
>spazzes out
Oh, frick, a mild deformation you wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't focused on. AI is clearly ruined, there is not future for this technology.
>reading comprehension
Why is the site suddenly filled with ESLs?
You can exaggerate, and so can I.
It couldn't do a fingernail, but you all went on about how it improved hands... and it still does shit like this. Who's exaggerating again? jfc
>It can't do art
>Ok, it can do abstract art, but it can't fo realism
>Ok, it can do realism, but it can't do people
>Ok, it can do people, but it can't do hands
>Ok, it can do hands, but it can't do nails
Feeling a pattern here?
Kek, whatever keeps you asleep at night, bruz
I can't tell, is this sincere, or a bit? Because it's hard for me to believe that people wouldn't see that this is where all of the NFT people went to after the NFT scam stopped making money. This is obviously a scam built on a few technically functional parts. Yes, they can use the engine for making South Park episodes. Yes, they can use AI script generation. Yes they can deepfake the voices, but this is obviously not capable of producing an episode. The characters just stand there facing the camera and say uncharacteristically stilted dialog obviously generated by a computer in barely-passable imitations of their voices. If a friend of mine tried to imitate Butters with that voice and asked me who he was imitating, I wouldn't be able to guess it was Butters because it doesn't really sound like him. Am I crazy? Is this a joke? I feel like someone said "Whoa! You can just eat the shit that just came out of your ass! No more paying for food ever again!" and tons of people started unironically eating their own shit, and articles were coming out talking about "the new hot trend in fast casual dining: coprophagea"
>Why is this prototype proof of concept not delivering the whole thing???
It's not that it's "not delivering the whole thing", it's that if you were to invite industrialists, inventors, investors, and other professionals out to the desert to show off "this new engine design that will blow your minds", and everyone went out and were sitting in some stands out in the middle of the desert at some test track, and you pulled up the big truck and rolled out this cool prototype new car, and everyone was waiting on baited breath as you gave a speech about how it was going to revolutionize automobile technologies, then you got in it and were like "Ta-da!" and didn't go anywhere because it's "just a prototype, you know? Don't go expecting it to be done yet" and that was it? The car didn't even start up, because it can't? You can't be surprised when nobody wants to invest and they all laugh at you and are mad you wasted their time. That example in the twitter post has *nothing*. It's embarrassing. They should be embarrassed that they posted it.
Problem was the proof of concept lacked the proof part.
No one can stop what's coming
Coom
What if the free market consists of people who are bothered by the art inaccuracies?
>Did a bird shit on my breasts or are you just happy to see me?
People said the same shit about cryptocurrency and NFTs, too. These are the same scam artists who float to different industries and have 10 charisma and like 7 intelligence and no morals or ethics whatsoever, and so they can literally flim-flam people into believing them about anything, no matter how vague, they can come in and promise a monorail with a fun song and everyone gives them the money, and then they just leave. AI writing and art generation is a fun gimmick that can be useful as a tool to aid actual creators. That's all. But the flim-flam man can come in and tell you it's the big revolution and will do whatever the hell will get you to give them money. It's more profitable for corporations if they're talking to capitalists, it's capable of skewering the cruel and gatekeeping system if they're talking to ancaps, it's capable of inspiring artists if they're talking to artistic types, they spin a fancy narrative and it's all a fricking trick to siphon money out of investors into the hands of a bunch of creeps who live in silicon valley in hundred-million-dollar mansions who for the last 25 years have been acting as a parasite to the tech industry. They went from the dotcom bubble to this to that to the gig economy to crypto to NFTs, now we're at AI art, and in five or six years the tech will have barely advanced and they'll have moved on to some other idea.
You're just a shill the communists are paying to drive away my paying customers. You're jealous I'm going to be rich as soon as I've moved my NFTs.
>People said the same shit about cryptocurrency and NFTs
Which didn't go anywhere---in that it never went away, you just stopped caring about it. So that anon is correct, yes.
>a fingernail
Taking up what percentage of the picture?
>Which didn't go anywhere---in that it never went away, you just stopped caring about it
Great. So you admit that people will eventually stop caring about AI and it will be business as usual because AI went the way of NFT which went nowhere.
>Taking up what percentage of the picture?
Does it matter? It's still in the picture kek
>the way of NFT
You left out the other thing.
>Does it matter?
Yes. A recognizably human hand with one (1) wonky fingernail is a marked improvement. Does every brushstroke take your immersion away from a painting?
Notice that you don't say he's wrong, just insinuate that he's coping, despite his reply being based on a real pattern.
>marked improvement
Mother McFricker, III, yes. Compared to "literally can't do hands," "That one nail looks strange" is an achievement.
Cringe influencer who clearly doesn't enjoy the product, but hey, paycheck.
I stopped drinking altogether this year, so I don't give a shit.
No it's not. Not by a mile
You're just obsessed with "The Win," aren't you? Even if you have to lie to yourself, you're just saving face.
All too familiar, sad to say.
>they think that if the AI could do hands perfectly that would suddenly make it good
How about you stop obsessing over minor---yes, minor, by the strictest---flaws and errors, which you only focus on because you're worried that a) if it gets "too good," it's over, and b) that using it like any other tool would be "joining the dark side."
>How about you stop obsessing over minor---yes, minor, by the strictest---flaws and errors
Its the polish that separates professional art from shitty amateur shit. When an onlookers eye wanders on the image by the rule of fibonacci curve and rule of threes, then abruptly stops and notices a part of the picture makes no sense whatsoever, he's been taken away from the immersion.
>Its the polish that separates professional art from shitty amateur shit
Never teach art class.
>When an onlookers eye wanders on the image by the rule of fibonacci curve and rule of threes, then abruptly stops and notices a part of the picture makes no sense whatsoever
Like the weird, unnatural background in the Mona Lisa?
>why did you cut my statement off in the middle, anon?
Sorry, the whole "it will never be good because moving goalposts" thing threw me off.
>pretending that there's no inconsistency in AI
You're just projecting the opposite extreme to yours; that every flaw in an AI image in an unforgiveable eyesore that no artist would dare put his name on, lest he be legally sanctioned for a public lashing.
(Me)
>in an unforgiveable
*is
>Never teach art class.
You haven't drawn a single painting in your life.
>Like the weird, unnatural background in the Mona Lisa?
Point out the weird alien shapes you see in Mona Lisa painting.
>m-muh tiny bridge is inconsistent in perspective.
Yes. Mona Lisa was made during an era 300 years before Realism was a thing. Artists were still learning how to create a proper illusion of perspective on landscapes. Modern art and AI art has no excuse.
>drawn a single painting
I do English every not at all.
>Point out the weird alien shapes you see in Mona Lisa painting
Are those trees or rocks?
>I do English every not at all.
Looks like the bot broke.
>joke
>HAHAHAHA YOU WERE SERIOUS
K. Now the second part.
Could've just used ChatGPT
Instead, I used an old-school Caddicarus reference, because I'm Le Quirke™ like that.
Yes, anon. Yes you are
You're... not gonna address the second part, are you?
>muh second part.
>I'll pretend to be blind and stupid, that'll show them!
>>I'll pretend to be blind
I know, it's like they're pretending not to see the question.
Hey, why did you cut my statement off in the middle, anon? Huh? Why? I'm so curious, because surely you're not using the first half of a larger statement cut off because it's the only way you could posture to be perceived as correct, right? Surely you wouldn't ignore my larger point about how even if the hands were perfect it wouldn't make the art good, right? Surely you wouldn't obviously and transparently admit I was right by side-stepping my point, right?
>Even if you have to lie to yourself, you're just saving face.
And yet, here you are lying to yourself as if you're pretending that there's no inconsistency in AI and then having a fit when said inconsistencies, no matter where they are, are pointed out.
I feel like they focus so much on "it's down to just a nail! improvement!" because they think that if the AI could do hands perfectly that would suddenly make it good. We criticize the AI art failures because AI art in and of itself is a failure. Even if text wasn't nonsense and everything in the scene was perfectly rendered, it's still just assembling features it skimmed from other art, it literally cannot do anything original.
>it literally cannot do anything original.
Neither can modern artists so what's the difference?
damn, AI gays are fast to strawman their garbage.
If modern artists couldn't, why are you training your shit on their work?
No need to answer, I know your response bot
>why are you training your shit on their work?
Gotta have garbage for the adversarial training
Well, yes?
These are "good hands" circa a year ago.
Wait, so the fabric is loose enough to bunch up on the sides and to drape down over her crotch, but tight enough to be vacuum-sealed to her abs and cradle her breasts? Which is it?
I like how you can't tell what she's supposed to be wearing in her back. Is that some kind of spear or boomerang or hockey stick? The entire right half of the picture is fricked.
>Is that some kind of spear or boomerang or hockey stick?
All of the above. She's Casey Jonesing.
The possibility that AIgays are incapable of recognizing the core flaws with AI art because, in cases like that image, they're literally just looking at her face and breasts, is incredibly disappointing to me. It kind of tells on them that they don't think anything else is important. They're not even recognizing the garbled text on signs, or the weird nonsensical shit on that native lady's back, they're literally just looking at breasts and making cartoon wolf eyes, and yet still they insist that we take them seriously.
100% correct
but I'm happy and you're not
Reminds me that when SVB crashed you had these people pivot right away from "adapt or die" to "I deserve to be bailed out" and then whine over others calling them parasites that deserved to fail.
They're definitely resentful over the perceived coolness and fame they think people in creative fields have. You can see this trend in other hardcore adopters too where they're most interested in having the mystique of an artist without understanding why people make or like art.
>They're definitely resentful over the perceived coolness and fame they think people in creative fields have.
Oh absolutely, and every one of these scams is some manifestation of that same cuckold energy, like crypto was formed out of jealousy of the ultra-wealthy, and NFTs were formed out of jealousy of asset-wealth, like someone owning a fancy painting or an expensive car as opposed to just raw cash value in a bank account like crypto was a parody of. Both of those crashed and burned, so now they're just desperately hungry for validation through some other medium, and they think that they can take some imperceptible and irreproducible value from artists, instead. They're just hungry for respect and status, and I guess I can understand that, it's just really, really, really cringey and I don't want to see it anymore, because it's like a crowdsourced Chris-Chan, a little drop of that stink aura in the veins of every one of them. Not concentrated in any one person, but god damn is it omnipresent. They're like Alpha Legion marines but their primarch is Chris-Chan. "I... am Christian Weston Chandler."
You're awfully harsh on them. I think they're just greedy, lazy fricks who will lie to others and delude themselves in any way possible if the imagined profit to effort ratio is high enough.
Yes, that's a very reasonable point you just made, but it IS very gratifying to dunk on morons, so maybe just let me have it for a second, even if it is in the format of being a little harsh. They deserve it, if only for a moment.
Have SD draw her tongue kissing her twin sister and I will admit AI artists are superior, break my drawing tablet and invest in a gaming rig (my current machine one cannot run LoRAs)
If AI could make an infinite amount of twincest that looked perfect and be based on any characters I wanted, I would admit defeat. The problem is these jabronis make a hundred pieces of """"art"""" and then pick the two of those that look good and pretend that's representative. Like that motorcycle lady from further up this thread, you know there's fifty versions of those where she's glitched out stuck halfway into her bike and with one eye bulged out and pointing the wrong direction and they just ignore those
Just throwing my hat in, I will also break my tablet in exchange for high quality twincest porn.
why cant you draw it, you are an artist right?
Alas, my SD-fu isn't strong enough yet.
Your tablets shall live to draw another day
>Alas, my SD-fu isn't strong enough yet.
Can anybody do two random girls tongue kissing in SD? In Cinemaphile it is either 1girl (1boy, 1dog etc.) that looks amazing, but anyhitng with more complexity is usually complete puke and I assume they post the best results.
Is that Sid Haig and Anthony Hopkins on the left?
Eh, close enough for the spank bank.
..what model?
not happening today sadly
try "french kiss" as a prompt
Hahahahaha, they are geting replaced too.
I love how her hair magically turns into a tattoo on her shoulder there
So if AI can do anything how come nobody's taking drawing requests?
Jesus, those seething replies
>"Everyone is mad at me, that means I won"
As a marketeer, this is correct
I genuflect
Explain to me why people were so mad about this troony again.
Not an AIgay, just hate the current industry artists.
Woop I only make comics as a hobby and am in a different career field so if AI art takes over I will still be making traditional art anyways woop
Honestly this is good. Frick modern writers who need to inject politics. They will lose their jobs. True visionaries won't
>instead the directors that want to inject said politics won't, in fact, they'll have even more power
lmao
😀
love the seething AI creates, tick tock humoid your time is up
From both artgays and aigays? Agreed!
larping as if your not a human yourself is pretty cringe and sad. Do you loathe your own human existence by any chance?
>Do you loathe your own human existence by any chance?
But enough about Artists
Few more years for things to get animated.
https://twitter.com/neuronmassage/status/1681348843638517760
The link, not the picture dumbass
I don't open Twitter links. I'm not a troony like you.
>I'm not a troony
Could have fooled me
Luddites BTFO!
The future of creativity is here. Get used to it.
Exciting time to be alive.
Yup.
weird nails, not real art
>The floor tiling is all fricked up.
>Dangerous floor wiring coming off the ground.
>Nonsensical table lamp to the right.
>TV table with a single shelf magically turns into 2 shelf table behind her.
>Weird deflated blue CD-player/Baseball catching mitt lying on the fricked up TV table
>Light sources are all fricked up, shadows go all over the place in geometric shapes.
Probably used prompt "Modern chinese home".
You won't be able to notice the flaws, eventually.
>elf homosexual that spams all boards
you're shit is awful, stop posting, nobody will buy your crap
the point is not about the vat, it's about the inability to assertain you're not in one.
i guess
>one of the models on nemu's waifu generator is literally called "counterfeit"
>checkmate, aitheists
Learn to code, homosexuals.
ARTZIS BTFO
Aaaaasaaalot of people are about to be put out of work
you first
So they made GoAnimate?
Again, this is all a complete scam designed to make morons with money do pogfaces and give them millions of dollars for a concept that will never actually come to fruition, and then five or six years from now we'll all be talking about some other new thing
again, image generation leaked and is fully open source by now, nobody is getting sold anything
Oh sure, but that doesn't stop them getting investors for some "big new project". Just because one aspect gets made public doesn't mean they can't turn that into "You're all going to love our new generation of AI imaging software! Invest now!"
>for a concept that will never actually come to fruition,
The problem is it might.
The other problem is normal show scripts are about as bad and good as what's in that tweet. I even chuckled at one of the lines as if it was a joke... just like real television shows.
Thats more of an issue of scripts and shit like modern journalism being so bad that even crappy AI can replace them and nobody would notice the difference in quality. Nobody cries about ChatGPT taking over jobs of clickbait blogger "journalists" because they create 10-15 garbage articles a day nobody reads.
I like how these are all also literally just advertisements. Like it's not even entertainment journalism trying to break or share something meaningful about anything that's coming out soon, it is literally just "here is product to consoom"
>it is literally just "here is product to consoom"
Anon I'm about to tell you something... all mass media is Here Is Product. Consume.
Oh hello there famous person, I'm so glad you could have an interview with us today... what you want to talk about your latest book/play/film/podcast/tv series? Go right ahead!
Why are we all obsessed with the [latest Marvel/Star Wars/Pixar/FOTM/FOMO/Barbie] movie?! I absolutely loved We Don't Talk About Bruno/Let It Go/whatever current thing is!
You should really have an opinion on [politician] because their views are [good/bad]!
>Thats more of an issue of scripts and shit like modern journalism
That's what I said anon. Shitty shows exist and are as bad if not worse than this AI shit, so it can be replaced by AI without complaint.
Western animation is already trying to emulate anime but failing at it. Might as well use AI to improve on it.
>that one hair
RUINED! THE AITHEISTS LOSE AGAIN!
AI prompters should try doing the environment first, then cut pasting the AI animu girl on top. Might fix the constant environment errors AI generates.
Yeah, when has a human artist ever used white space as part of the background?
>Just a minor error, you're crying over nothing!
The AI clearly doesn't understand that the table is supposed to continue existing behind the animu girl, which is what causes the perspective errors. This happens a lot in AI images with rigid geometric shapes behind whatever chick is standing in the same boring pose on the forefront.
>Didnt even look at the arrows on the image.
Good job moron.
Be kind to SD! It only ever lived in 2D space! If you were to sculpt a projection of 4D elf girl you’d frick it up too!
>4D elf girl
Great band name.
I get what you're saying and all, but that's still a minor perspective error. If we figure there could easily be another set of legs in the middle hidden behind the girl.
I'd say the only glaring issue with that image is the lack of a back leg on the left side of the table. The floor too but that could have been intentional, if it was drawn by an actual person.
>I get what you're saying and all, but that's still a minor perspective error.
Thats a pretty major fricking perspective error because its on on the middle of the picture so your eyes will notice it. The moment your mind starts wondering how it could be possible behind the girl is the moment the composition of the image failed. The middle leg doesn't even solve the issue that the top of the table is crooked and doesn't align.
>The floor too but that could have been intentional, if it was drawn by an actual person.
The artist would have to be either living in a chinese house or be a paranoid schizophrenic to draw cords melting into living room tiles.
>prompters
>the capability to edit images
Pick one.
It'd help but not for posing characters in an actual scene which is where everything starts to melt like literally everything in
be it the books, floorboards, cushion, cables, whatever the frick that round thing on the shelf is or the wardrobe(???) in the video stream
That is some c-grade generic shit, man, there's not one single original thing in that entire image. That's someone's totally-not-samus OC
>there's not one single original thing in that entire image
Find the previous images, then.
my homie do you not know what zero suit samus looks like
You said it was "someone's totally-not-samus OC," implying the image was ripped directly from pre-existing art. I'd like proof of this, in the form of that pre-existing art. Otherwise, you can either say that's not you meant (and maybe it wasn't), or sit down and be humble.
Give us the LoRA and the model you used.
>you used
Wrong guy.
Oh, look, something that has nothing to do with the post it's replying to.
I'm nta you were initially replying to but everyone knows AI doesn't usually directly copypaste shit whole-cloth from art in a way that leaves some smoking gun. That doesn't mean it didn't obviously regurgitate a bunch of samus art to make something simulacral that has no quality unless you're a moron who just likes horny booba shit, which most AI shills tend to be.
>AI doesn't usually directly copypaste shit whole-cloth
Or... ever.
>AI shills
Add "shill" to the list of words whose meanings have become casualties in the culture war...
Try to get AI to """create""" anything without access to a bunch of shit to pilfer from deviantart/zlibrary and see how well it goes.
AIgays never have an answer for this other than "WELL UHH HUMANS LOOK AT REFERENCES TOO"
>Try to get AI to """create""" anything without access to [training data]
That's how it works, yes. Can you prove anything is directly stolen when you say "pilfer"?
>Can you prove anything is directly stolen when you say "pilfer"?
The court cases against OpenAI are in the process of doing that. ChatGPT's creators literally admitted to illegally using pirated books lol
>The court cases against OpenAI are in the process of doing that
What have they found so far?
>what are the results of court cases that have not had results yet
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/openai-facing-another-copyright-suit-over-ai-training-on-novels
Do you seriously think art was only used for training data and that it can come up with original works?
How do you actually think AI software like Stable Diffusion, DALL-E 2 and Midjourney come out with original art without using an artwork as a source? Because I guarantee you that there wouldn't be a copyright lawsuit months ago if it wasn't the case?
>Do you seriously think art was only used for training data
Yes. Again, that's how that works.
>using an artwork as [training data]
Getting kinda old.
>a copyright lawsuit
For using art in training data, yes. Not sure how that went, though...
>have not had results yet
Then what are they proving?
If I can find it on Google Images and right-click-save, then for all intents and purposes, it's free and publicly accessible. This is how the internet works.
And anti-AI alarmists can never answer how using free public accessible shit is "stealing".
>free public accessible shit
Unironically kys
>artist uploads his shit on Twitter for everyone to see, save and, if they want to, edit and parody
>doing exactly that but with an image-generating program classifies as stealing... because it just does, okay?
>ignores the various times aigays using AI as a means of making serious work and not "edit and parody" memes
I can understand if by "serious work" you mean smartasses who try to peddle their AI generated shit for real money. Which I do agree is a c**t move - not because of some vague "they steal art" crap, but because they are trying to sell relatively low-effort shit anyone can plausibly produce in 10 minutes. But from what I see, the majority of people are just doing this shit for fun and nothing more, but get shat on by alarmists and twittergays despite staying in their lane regardless. Fight the buttholes misusing the software, not the software itself.
>I made this
>copyright? What's that?
Since when does fricking Cinemaphile, a piracy central, care about respecting copyright?
It doesn't.
Right now they're stuck in that 'I'm moral so I get to screech' mindset that twitter shitters get stuck in.
>since when do anti-AI alarmists care about piracy?!
>because it is piracy, anon
>since when did Cinemaphile care about piracy?!
Goal posts: shifted.
Have sex.
it's not. doesn't change that "AI" only makes passionless goyslop
"Passion" has no place in free market environemt. You do the cheapst thing you can scam somebody into buying.
I've seen people accuse actual art of being AIslop and vice versa many times before. The "soul" complaint is moronic, especially when it can be used against a huge chunk of manmade art as well.
>That doesn't mean it didn't obviously regurgitate a bunch of samus art to make something simulacral that has no quality unless you're a moron who just likes horny booba shit, which most AI shills tend to be.
Good enough for normal mentally healthy people. This means artists will be scrubbing shitters in years. Tick tock fleshbag.
>2 more weeks! this mediocrity no one wants is actually the FUTURE™!!
totally not the exact same rhetoric techbros used to shill nfts two years ago lol
>>2 more weeks!
You can make the timeframe as comically narrow as you want, it doesn't mean a thing in the face of big-T Time.
Big Flava T gonna clown on you artist dawgs! Techbro 4 lyfe hoot hoot!
The frick?
SDXL is literally coming out next week
I guess everyone can be welders
Is it to late to learn how to code?
It's never too late to learn how to code! But if you mean professionally, yes, it's too late.
what the corpo who fund that shit think will happen:
>we can now air literally a new episode every hours and customers will never gets tired of us, ever
what will really happen:
>fast worward 2 years, the ai gets datamined 100% and a free app using it is now available on any phones and nobody ever need to use TV anymore, just that free app that can run on even a toaster
>blatant shill thread likely filled with bots or marketers
>still up with 400+ replies
Frick off backseat jannie
Whats ais next major achievement
Scientists are next on the choping block it seems. Just feed all published literature in a given field to the AI and it will shit out good enough model of reality. It will not be total loss of employment like creatives, there will still be like 3% of the current stock needed to check for edge cases where the model fails to make good predictions.
This is such a foolish thing to say that I almost suspect you haven't entirely thought it through and are just spouting half baked hot takes on Cinemaphile.
Every writer
Every va
Every actor
Everybody animator
Just got downsized
AI gays know deep down their shit is garbage because otherwise they would do people's specific requests rather than dumping random off-topic garbage images.
>AI gays know deep down their shit is garbage because otherwise they would do people's specific requests rather than dumping random off-topic garbage images.
This.
It's always
>AI can do this!
And then when you ask them to do it it's "I meant in five years!"
>otherwise they would do people's specific requests rather than dumping random off-topic garbage images.
I am still waiting for two girls tongue kissing.
Everyday ai gets better and better
Consider your role terminated
Ever notice how when you challenge their questions the shills just repeat the same lines over and over? Like a chatbot?
Yes, and every word you say is divinely inspired originality itself. Sometimes, shit gets repeated because it never got an answer besides "lol no" and it wasn't even a yes/no question.
>Yes, and every word you say is divinely inspired originality itself.
Yeuh huh.
Your selective misunderstanding of sarcasm gives you away.
You can't compress exabytes of image data into a 4gb model, your images aren't there
Obviously it is not a lossless method but you can recreate the original image with rather low r.m.s.d.
don't understand the hate against AI, it's pretty cool when you use it to have fun
shame most people using it are either coomers or grifters and there's barely any decent places to discuss it
My favorite grifters are the AI prompters in sadpanda lazily throwing an AI filter on top of already drawn porn images, then posting a Patreon link on the comments section. Then whining to mods that their galleries are getting "review bombed".
Kek no wonder Elon was so afraid of ai it wouldn't let him pretend to be anything but a bumbling bafoon who gets exposed by a cold calculating rational machine
You get a choice
Either let the machine babysit you with weird imagery and ideas
or
consoom more of shitty writers and other people trying to influence you with horrible propaganda.
>the machine is totally not being fed with the shit writing and horrible propaganda you hate so much
aren't you the special kind of moron, ought to learn this by now with how much chat programs have been censored
>other people trying to influence you with horrible propaganda
Just grunt and throw sticks at them. If you still feel threatened, gesticulate wildly and run towards them before veering off at the last second. Repeat that multiple times and the most rational, clear-headed argument will prevail.
I will do neither of those and just read indie comics
Soulless
jesus christ what the frick is that tie doing
Viva la ai
Heh heh heh
She got 3 feetsies :y
That just means 15 tosies.
To be fair, extra e-girl feet will probably appeal to Cinemaphile
So funnily enough on this pic reminds me of a problem with creative intuition over on the LLM side of things. I tried asking GPT to write me an AU Harry Potter fan fic where having magic gives you fat breasts and it couldn't extrapolate what that would actually mean in terms of the statute of secrecy or any other finer plot points. Writegays are safe so long as this stuff can't logic its way from step one to two like that.
I like how we're supposed to pretend like this technology just isn't going to benefit big studios that already have render farms and tons of technological infrastructure.
I can't even make a single image over 1080p without getting a CUDA error.
Soulless
More low quality goyslop that will only be used for fotm twitch shit
>dude the AI has INFINITE potential
>all pictures are front view portraits and pinups because this bland angle always matches the prompt better
You will never be a real worker you’re just a collection of circuits and wirACK
Since this thread's coming to a close, I'm just gonna leave this here.
>https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-judge-finds-flaws-artists-lawsuit-against-ai-companies-2023-07-19/
>Suing the AI companies.
morons. Its like trying to sue a printer company because someone made copies of your work with their printer. You have to sue people benefitting off your work and prove the financial damages.
Where are the two girls tongue kissing you lazy shits? It takes you under 10 seconds to type the prompts!
why can't people see AI stuff like a funny tool to use and that's it?
Because there are people, especially AIgays, who don't see it that way
Personally, I think it's ego. Some people are uncomfortable with AI tip-toeing too close to doing the whole job, and instead of using it for their own purposes, they've decided a while ago they'll die on the hill of stopping new technology in its tracks.
I think he's talking about you...
>implying that aigays don't use ai ironically for memes and parodies
What?
Let me make it easy for you to understand;
there are people who use ai as a funny tool and there are people who don't. Stop being selective of one group of people and ignoring the other group and playing dumb when it's pointed out, you dingus
Which "group" was I ignoring, exactly?
>Let me make it easy for you
You could be a slightly-less-gaping c**t. That works, too.
>Which "group" was I ignoring, exactly?
The dickheads who think they're making "serious work" and trying to make money out of it? That group?
Are they in this thread right now?
You know "funny" can also mean "novel," right?
Funny does not mean novel, but that would go a long way to explaining a lot of the internet's sense of humour.
>Funny does not mean novel
You seem particularly interested in the authority of words...
For the last time I am not joining BDSM book club
No, really? You'd fit so well in the B cluster./spoiler]
But what about the DSM?
Yeah, read that.
Because while I am not an artist, there are a coupple artists I like, and I don’t want them to end up scrubbing shitters.
Anyone else notice how this thread really quietened down after images like this started getting posted?
Almost as if they all left to fap?
Ho hum.
>This sounds like a legal nightmare
>Not if we use actors no one cares anymore
>Like Tom Cruise
Can't believe I laughed, there's no spare for me isn't?
They be nomming