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Will he ever get a good story?
> Post-crisis origin
> Batman the cult
> The Last crusade
> Lost days
He already had that + a game despite his publishing history being a 1/4 of what the other Robins and Batgrills and having no fanboys at DC. It's pretty impressive.
What does it take for Tim to get a cartoon? Being Jason in everything but name.
The Detective comic stories that run along Shooter Batman run was nice.
And depending of your taste you will like Morrison's issues, Winnick issues or Lobdell's 2016 issues with Artemis
Tim stop being relevant in 2006
As long as he’s still with the Bat family, I don’t think so.
remember what they took from us
these three were great
THey are but when will they stop drawing Amazon's shorter than bat people??
>We'll never get these three together again.
I really have no idea what Lobdell was thinking when he made Artemis and Bizarro frick off after RHatO Rebirth #25. At this point they should just let Dexter S o y do Red Ronin with those three. Given he still does art of them he still clearly cares about the characters.
It wasn't him, it was Bendis
It wasn't really Lobdell's fault. He already in interview that the decision came from above and it doesn't seem like he was happy with it. Still, he went overboard with the "fight" in issue 25 and could have handled the break up better.
This issue left such a bitter taste in my mouth and ruined the entire series for me. To this day, I have yet to finish the series.
I remember how fun storytime threads used to be. Threads became slower and many people lost interest when the new arc started.
It's the reason why I don't feel like re-reading the book despite how much I enjoyed the team
How long IRL was Diana with Kal? DC could've tied Jason and Artemis longer. Or was Editorial that much against it?
Editorial were all for it, it was Lobdell who was against it. 5G basically doomed the book and this ship.
UTHR
Under the red hood is good
the most important day of the year
Which birthday? pre or post lazarus pit?
pre
Tim is better and cuter and just the best.
Delusional Timgays at it again.
Tim is more huggable thab Shadow the Batperson.
Tim is forgettable, and not even the rainbow label can save him.
most iconic moment of the character, unfortunately he became a moronic character
yeah, but now he's gay and all he cares about is Bernard's dick
Some commissioned Jimenez jaytims for you anon.
I'm glad to see Jimenez finally drawing Jason in the jacket
I'm glad the white stripe finally made it in DCU. I always liked it on Jason. Also, love the team up of Jason and Tim (shame what happened to Tim, though).
>RR Tim
basado
niceeee
I'd let Jimenez destroy my bussy
Timgays...
Jason is a brute. Tim is precious.
It's sad what dc did to Tim. he used to feel like the every man.
Not saying Happy Birthday to someone who stripped a 10 year old boy down to their underwear, and was almost about to publicly broadcast it to everyone in Gotham.
> thinking their naked when Dick is draw with underwear
>getting arroused when you see a half-naked teen
Just damigays' problems.
are you a pedo or something??
>i made your morally grey antagonist into a straight up villain
Thanks Morrison.
>such a villain that he doesn't even try to kill Dick or Damian
I'd love for jasongays to actually explain the differences between morrisons jason and all the rest.
There’s nothing different between Morrison’s Jason and the rest. Those writers who forced Jason to be Dick's archnemesis were Dickgays, and all of them just wanted to humiliate Jason. Morrison was also one of them.
Morrison's Jason is actually ugly, so you REALLY know he's a bad guy.
This anon again? They already fight in their underwear against rapists and serial killers. Read more comics, and stop making it weird.
THAT's the cover they went with?!
Dick and Jason were friends, he would never do anything like this.
Morrison is a moron and a hack. And he prides himself on thinking "everything is canon"...
Has he had his birthday coffee yet?
Is there any news about his mini series?
Martinbrough was tweeting about it last month, implying it was coming real soon
https://twitter.com/smartinbrough/status/1686822687321042944
But then he was asked about it last week and he said he doesn't know when will be solicited
https://twitter.com/smartinbrough/status/1689829618163789824
At this point I just want anyone but Zdarsky and Rosenberg to write Jason
Why DC is dragging their feet with this? It's not like Jason is involved in anything right now.
They are apparently planning something for Jason at the end of Gotham War (or maybe it's just a marketing talk).
>it's going to be another Jason and the batfam fallout
>Jason fricks off somewhere
Might as well regress him to being dead at this point
The event will end with Batman vs Nightwing fight so I doubt it will be another fallout for Jason or maybe I'm being too generous.
Even Williamson?
I'm willing to give Wiliamson and his insistence on making Jason frick Rose a chance.
He lost me in FSG and the way he made Jason get tricked by HUSH (and calling Jason ugly).
Jason is ugly sweaty, I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
Sure, Williamson.
Jason looks like every other black hair blue eyes guy in DCU. If he is "ugly", so everyone else.
Jason is apparently trending for his birthday.
The funny thing about this is that Williamson started the Jason/Rose thing with Rose thinking Jason is hot so I'm not sure what's up with this dumb and unnecessary.
+comment
>Williamson started the Jason/Rose thing with Rose thinking Jason is hot
That just means Rose has shit taste.
Why are you here, dude?
Make fun of Jason fans.
Jason's haters are pretty obsessed with him. Please understand.
Knowing how stories like this usually, both sides probably will look stupid and incompetent. Still, I'm admittedly curious about Jason's role because he looks pretty bored in almost every panel I have seen of him so far.
I like Jason, I just like making fun of him too lol
It's good for you to not take any fictional character seriously and have fun, but there's a time and better way to troll where you wouldn't come off as hater.
Nothing wrong with calling Jason ugly I think, he's supposed to be the rough, somewhat pathetic, bad boy of the Bat-Family after all, I'd be offended if he wasn't at least a bit ugly.
Because no one like to be called "ugly" and it's particularly stupid in comics where characters all look the same.
>he's supposed to be the rough, somewhat pathetic, bad boy of the Bat-Family after all
I would be lying if I said I respect everyone view on the character because I don't so I'm just going to say no this.
>Because no one like to be called "ugly" and it's particularly stupid in comics where characters all look the same.
Well, yeah, Dick and Jason are sometimes even drawn mostly the same, that's why I appreciate it when artists go out of their way to make them look different, I'm saying Jason is ugly mostly as a joke, but also because I imagine him getting into "uglier" situations than the others, if that makes sense.
>I'm just going to say no this.
Then please do tell me, how do (You) see Jason? I'm curious now.
This is just a suspicion, but you have to wonder if guys like this might just be projecting a little much on the character.
How am I projecting?
He got big.
In FSG some random angry mook called Jason ugly, Williamson isn't pushing the ugly Jason agenda.
Catwoman's way too small here, yeah Jason's gonna be taller than her but this is too much
>Zdarsky and Rosenberg
What's your problem with them? I read both Cheer and TFZ and they were decent enough.
Seconded. I wouldn't say their take on Jason is my favorite, but I don't get the hate some people have for them especially when we had some seriously bad takes from certain writers in the same time frame.
What's your favorite take on Jason? What his fans would like him to be?
Winick's take will always be favorite. He was tragic, competent, funny and confident while also a bit of hypocrite which how he should be. Doesn't mean that I want him to be in the same position/role as he was in UTRH. He should move on from the Joker already and I don't want him to be trigger happy who kills anyone in his way.
What about his relationship with the batfamily?
I have no problem with it. Jason is a former Robin and a son to Bruce so he should always be considered an important member of the batfamily, but there should be a limit to things he is willing to do for Batman. Going undercover mission after another for Batman is idiotic and him being willing to chase after the brat is even more stupid.
Couldn't agree with this. Jason is and should definitely be part of batfamily, but there's should indeed be indeed a limit for things Jason is willing do for them. Jason telling them to freak off in the bane arc was glorious and he should have done the same in Robin. I also liked how Seeley handled it in the wedding arc.
>Couldn't agree
*couldn't agree more
>I also liked how Seeley handled it in the wedding arc.
You mean when he asked for payment from Bruce? Yeah, it was pretty funny and in character for Jason.
I agree with this. Keep the personality winick made for him, but stop repeating the conflict of utrh over and over again and make him move on already.
That would require for DC to be creative and smart which is apparently pretty impossible for them.
I think it only requires for them to be a bit competent, anon.
>but DC is absolute mess
Yeah, it's not exactly only Jason who is currently suffering right now. Almost every character is suffering from a recycled storyline.
They should stop relegating him to his issues with Bruce and Joker. Dude's gone through the same thing everytime there's a new writer. The closest thing to him sort of being a new man was when he became the new owner of the Iceberg Lounge
Little punk Robin was neat but I can't trust DC with him. At this point I believe Arkham Knight is the better RH all over. All the good DC did with RH is purely accidental, all they can do is either turn him into a pathetic bully or make him Dick Grayson if dying and his daddy issues were his main traits.
Frick them honestly. Jason lived with Bruce for 2 years while nobody else was around. He gave his best and it wasn't enough for Batman. The end. Stop overplaying their importance to Jason when all they did is judge him from day 1.
They keep writing Jason as a drooling moron that is unable to think ahead and is completely controlled by his emotions.
Just off the top of my head, Jason deciding to trust fricking Dent over Bruce, even when Dent already lied to his face at the start of the story was idiotic, Jason throwing a tantrum and needing Daddy Bruce to fix his mess in Cheer was moronic.
Williamson has written a decent Jason in the few chances he's had. Having him duped by Hush was massively moronic but I'm willing to give him the chance to see how would he write him in a canon story and not a bullshit alternate future storyline.
Lobdell, Jason needs to move on from hating Bruce and create a new life outside of his shadow. So far, Lobdell has been the only writer interested in doing that
>Jason deciding to trust fricking Dent over Bruce
But he didn't. It wasn't a matter of him trusting Dent over Bruce, he just wanted to finish the mission. Still, I do think the premise and how Jason was written in it wasn't exactly good either.
Honestly, there isn't a single writer in DC that I trust to write Jason well. I have a bit of hope for Martinbrough, but DC is absolute mess and I hope they don't drag Jason down with them.
>how would he write him in a canon story
He already did and he had him get tricked by Damian this time. It makes a little sense how you completely hates their takes, but OK with Williamson's.
Knowing him, probably because he acknowledged Jason & Roy friendship which I definitely give Williamson credit for this because I really like their relationship. I do agree that his takes (from what we have seen so far) isn't really better than Rosenberg and Zdarsky.
The Jason and Roy friendship was a mistake.
Well
> That was just a couple of pages
>Jason was written as able to work as part of a team instead of just being an angry jerkass to everyone
>Jason has always had a soft spot for kids so is perfectly in character to fall for Damian's ploy, especially since it has been shown before how they can relate to each other whenever they aren't competing
>He actually got the spotlight, unlike Tim and Steph who were just filler.
For comparison, both Zdarsky and Rosemberg have him walking into every trap, and lashing out to everyone for no reason
>He actually got the spotlight, unlike Tim and Steph who were just filler
And yet, he apparently wasn't important enough to be included in the final page in the series. He was in the book (chasing after Damian for some reason) just to get played by Damain.
Jason getting ignored in "meaningful" group shots is the norm at this point
Currently? Not really. He usually always included which makes his absence in that page a weird and stupid choice. If he is apparently not important enough for Damian, he shouldn't have appeared in the book in the first place.
>Jason deciding to trust fricking Dent over Bruce, even when Dent already lied to his face at the start of the story was idiotic,
Jason was lying and trying to play everyone around him through the story. Bruce was being authoritarian again. If Jason starts jumping to Bruce's orders, then he's just reverting back to the frustration and dysfunction that led him to be killed as Robin. At least with Dent, Jason has a chance of working with someone to further his own ambitions instead of Batman's.
Batman once trusted Dent to be in charge of Gotham for an entire year while he went on a R&R vacation with Dick and Tim. Jason isn't the only one guilty of trusting Dent when he shouldn't.
I'm totally fine with Jason acting like a dumbass sometimes, because Batman really does act like a dumbass constantly. Jason has never screwed up as bad as Bruce did with Tower Of Babel, Venom, or OMAC—or almost getting himself killed by a couple of run-of-the-mill prostitutes in fricking Year One. If you read anything set during Batman's solo years before Robin, the chances are that Bruce is doing something ridiculously foolish and reckless, and he was older (then 25-27) and had more resources than Jason (now 22-23) ever has. The problem is all these Batman writers who've decided that Jason is the singularly stupid impulsive one, and Batman has always been the rational Batgod genius one, and Rosenberg has never written Jason that way.
Zdarsky hates Jason, and Lobdell made up a Mary Sue original character who happens to be named Jason Todd.
I hope Jason is jaded by another Gotham war. Comedically tired of neverending family drama.
I actually liked that Rosenberg call out Batman's bs "my city, my rules" excuse because I wasn't getting tired of it.
>Zdarsky hates Jason, and Lobdell made up a Mary Sue original character who happens to be named Jason Todd
Definitely don't agree with this. Zdarsky doesn't hate Jason nor Lobdell made him a Mary sue.
I'm not even the biggest fan of Lobdell's take on Jason, but calling him a mary sue is definitely not true.
I really hope it will be the extent of his role in this. Just him wondering if he locked his door at home while the whole place is on fire.
So just like when he was Robin? Good.
Oh come on. I was so expecting that we are getting an announcement this month.
Bring back the Dark Trinity
Nah, let Jason stand on his own for a while. He just needs a writer who who cares and stop making him an insecure beta.
>insecure beta
Examples pls
Given what the ratho webtoon did with that, no.
TFZ was okay-ish. Cheers was utter trash and made Jason irrational just so the story could drive a point and make him drop the guns and suck Batman's wiener.
Tim can't even get his actual origin in a cartoon or screen time.
Poor bastard.
I just want him to be happy.
God I wish Jason would drop the bargain bin MK ninja look and go back to the helmet
I'm not sure why this weird hate for it. I actually likes it and I think it's fitting for Jason current unstable state.
Because it has overstayed its welcome significantly. Plus the damn thing makes him look like a random mook.
>makes him look like a random mook
Hardly. He definitely stand out with it and I like red hoodie on Jason.
His AK Red Hood costume is still my absolute favorite, tho.
I don't like the bat on his chest, why didn't they give him a more creative logo?
Because every time they try, they come with worse shit like a skull, a phoenix or an angry penguin
What'd be the ideal logo for Jason? I admit I'm not the biggest fan of the bat or the current one he has, but I can't really think of anything else.
>Jason is on Selina's side during BatCat war
Ok who's gonna join him?
Jason is the only reason why I'm bothering with this event, but I'm not exactly having high expectations for it considering DC track record. Still, it's nice to see Jason playing a major role.
Friendly reminder Jason's true dream is to be Barbara's malewife.
DC hates Babs
>Dick
>Timm's weird fixation with her and Bruce
>Jason
Doesn't she frick Tim in Arkhamverse?
Yes, she did went with Tim in the Arkhamverse. The only Robins she hasn't snared is Steph and Damian
It'll happen at some point, just you wait! They already tried shipping Damian and Cass in some Harley comic, so I suspect Damian/Babs something next in the next decade.
>In some Harley comic
It's weird, but considering how rare Cass and Damian interact this is a really rare moment.
>Cass and Damian incest
Hot
> Cass whispering "I'll miss you" in her raspy lil mute voice
Frickin CUTE, man!
> calling it incest
I'm torn between thinking that's weird and really liking the idea of the Bat-Family being this hotbed of adoptive pseudo-incest. I'll just do both.
Just waiting for her to get paired with Damian
How the frick do you justify Babs banging Damian? Without some serious AU alterations
Just catch her on one of her de-aging runs.
Sometimes I forget that people take Three Jokers seriously.
It could have been good and I actually liked how Batman wasn't mad that Jason killed the Joker unlike what he did to him in Rhato.
Kinda agree, normally I feel Batman should be pissed off at Jason murdering but him brushing that off almost made me chuckle. That's his little boy! So what if he did a little clown murder, everyone has their off days! haha
Batman not being weirdly obsessed with the Joker is the only good part about it besides the art. Other than that, the entire story was stupid and pointless and the characters were bland.
>unlike what he did to him in Rhato
Don't remind me. I hated this issue so much that I truly wonder why would anyone thinks that it was a good idea to publish this.
I wonder about this too. Even Batman fanboys were mad about it because it made Bruce looks seriously bad
We are talking about dc here. They love making edgy stories, but they aren't good enough to deal with the fall out.
Because the plan was to completely isolate Jason and build up his turn into Leviathan. But then the plans got leaked here and Bendis threw a b***h fit and scrapped the idea.
>RHATO was working
>kill it by setting up Jason as villain
>Super Sons was working
>kill it by aging up Jon and setting up Damian as villain
Why DC is like that?
What was the point of Leviathan? What made him so special? What was the original plan?
Bendis thought it would be cool to turn one of Bruce's kids into Cobra Commander. Like that was literally the way Bendis pitched it.
Somebody needs to lock Bendis up or something at this point, how the frick does this guy still have a job?
I'm talking out of my ass but the whole thing felt like Bendis was fricking with Lobdell for the "I'm not Bendis" tweet
>Bendis thought it would be cool to turn one of Bruce's kids into Cobra Commander.
None of them has what it takes. Babs, on the other hand...
Why didn't you protect his smile anons
Why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker?
why doesnt jason just do it
he's not very good at what he does 🙁
oh nyoo
Probably because he is worried that Batman would have a devastating mental break down.
The hacks at DC would never allow that
when will my boy ever be happy...
I have hopes for the Ghouls anthology
being a Jason fan is suffering
Reminder that Jason's dad is dead and he didn't even know.
Jason should frick Selina.
Why tho
*rape
Jason needs an archenemy I think.
Already has one. Himself.
> t. Jokergays and Dickgays
He doesn't really need one.
GK handled Jason pretty well. One of the best takes I have seen on Jason.
As for his design, I really don't think anyone looked good in the game except maybe Bruce.
>GK handled Jason pretty well
GK handles him the same as WFA. That mean not at all. He's completely sanitized and bow to Bruce's autism. The "he has anger issues/he's emotional" isn't better because the writer add "please understand" at the end of their sentence. It still fails to acknowledge the elephant in the room; all these characters are emotional nutcases. Jason has just a better excuse than most for it. You're right about the designs though.
GK and WFA have a Bruce who was there and helped Jason after his return so of course he would mellow down.
> AU where Batfam was there and supportive
> AU where Batfam didn't spit on a kid's grave and made him the bad Robin
> AU where Bruce not a manchild and a reasonable authority figure
> AU where Jason is still RH for some reason
> AU where Jason and Bruce having a different worldview is just Jason needing help
Yeah, it's sanitized. This is a new character and so is everyone around him.
>AU where Jason and Bruce having a different worldview is just Jason needing help
This isn't true for either GK nor WFA. There's even entire issue in WFA talking about Jason's view and why doesn't necessarily agree with Bruce's way.
The biggest difference here is that Jason is allowed to grow and develop instead of what they are doing to him (and everyone else) in comics which isn't a bad thing at all.
>The biggest difference here is that Jason is allowed to grow and develop instead
How so? The only growth there is that he hangs around batfam because he plays by Bruce rules. Minus the batfam, Rebirth did something similar until the first DC shake-up event hit the fan. If so, the only "growth" in GK or WFA is artificial and tied to their format; GK being one video game, WFA being a sitcom.
>which isn't a bad thing at all.
If you say so, but my point was that they didn't handle him. It's two sanitized AUs where all edges had been smoothed with no effort and/or offscreen.
>The "he has anger issues/he's emotional" isn't better because the writer add "please understand" at the end of their sentence.
That version of Jason is explicitly stated to have seen a psychologist to deal with his mental issues.
The entirety of the Wayne family needs a fricking therapist. The cow included.
But it'd be cool.
It definitely would be exciting but it has the problem of how would you keep them around if Jason is willing to use lethal force?
Give them a way to survive most of anything, whether it's through technology, magic, or some sci-fi chemical.
Still not. The only it would work if Jason's archenemy was a detective who is trying to catch him and Jason would never try to kill him.
That's a better idea, you're hired.
I always had an idea in my head about solo Red Hood series that included a detective who is obsessed with catching Jason and a mafia boss who causes Jason too much troubles until he eventually kills him.
Jason is beautiful. Morrison or Gotham Knights does not exist to me.
GK Jason has some weird gap moe thing going on.
>Gotham Knights does not exist to me.
why , the entire game makes sense if you play as redhood
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv_jslyMKva/
Goddamn, Manhke fricking rules
oh
Dexter is a treasure
Did you know that Jason was 9 when he was taken by Bruce?
Interesting. This mean he spent 6 years with Bruce before he died.
Well, he was Robin for six years in real time so it's fit
There was apparently 3 years time-skip after Bruce met Jason.
Man, and I was just arguing with a guy yesterday who was convinced that Jason was only Robin for 1 year. Glad to know I was right and Jason actually spent longer time with Bruce.
1 year is too short, but knowing DC, one "writer" probably went there years ago. Late post-crisis was a mess ino the hand of moronic fanboys. The orignial age gap between Jason and Dick used to be 6 years min. It was more than that in Pre-crisis.
Point is, DC fricked up it's timeline many times now and canon is as loose as it is contrived. If DC feel concerned enough about Bruce, Dick, Tim to keep them how they like them, they're not stranger to throw Jason under the bus. We'd be lucky if the current age gap between Dick and Jason is 2-3 years atm.
Zero Hour had Jason dying less than a year after meeting Batman. I think a year and a half is more reasonable and actually fits within the NTT timeline.
Post your favorite covers
About to drop the hottest album of 2007
I like this one alot!
this one is funny
adorable too
i just love this design
He looks like a squished marshmellow but not in a good way
>Thank you for the thighs, Miss Putri, ma'am. o7
Still waiting for someone to bring back this friendship.
Jesus Fricking Christ
I'm so tired anons
wait whatever happened to failsafe
>Batman finds himself completely isolated from his family
Some might consider this a good thing, but it also kinda falls apart when you remember he's getting a new series with his son.
I like how this prove that the new batman and robin book is pointless and doesn't actually matter. Just like what happened in N52.
there's no reason this thread should still be up when his birthday is over now
nuh uh
>November Solicts are out
>Jason is nowhere in sight
>Joker might be ending
I can't decide if feel relieved or worried
>no solicit thread
Cinemaphile is ded
will we ever see a live action adaptation ?
There's a Jason fan film being released later this year
looks pretentious ngl
On-brand for HiTop.
probably in the brave and the bold
I mean
manlet jay
qt
Is he 20 now
Is it still his birthday
less than a year left
Same as me
does he have a rogue thats not a batman villain
A bunch of them, actually.
Plus the Untitled
I want to kick in the ball to the suit who thought it was a good idea to keep the same Robin actor as Red Hood
I remembered that small discussion from a few days ago about Joker mindbreaking Jason into being Harley Quinn instead of killing him and now I wish someone wrote a greentext of it.
The Titans books had Dick turning 20 during COIE. Unless Batman 408 retconned out nearly two decades of comics so Bruce could kick Dick out of the house as a 17 year old high school student, this fanmail response makes no sense.
This was for (You)
DC timeline never made any sense, but Jason was officially 9 when Bruce found him and died when he was 15 (considering that we have a confirmation that him and Cass are the same age).
Keep in my mind that there were issues between the Batman office and Titans office and the former wasn't at all concerned about what the latter was doing so they probably didn't care about acknowledging Dick's age.
The one year* only happened in New 52 (*they actually made it six months) due to how hard they tried to fit 4 Robins in 5 years and both Dick and Tim suffered from this, not just Jason. It was never mentioned anywhere else that Jason was Robin for only one year.
Jason's being 9 was never stated in comics, just in "word of god" style comments. If those counted Destiny and Mystique would actually be Nightcrawler's mom and dad.
Jason's age was never stated in comics except for the one time Bruce celebrated his 18th birthday. It's still official that he supposed to be 9.
>Zero Hour had Jason dying less than a year after meeting Batman
Proof of this?
The Batman Secret Files and Origins comic that DC published after Zero Hour.
>Batman's post-Zero Hour origin story (retconned out Joe Chill)
>Public image of Bruce Wayne through a magazine articles featuring interviews with Lucius and Alfred
>History of Gotham City stylized as a book excerpt
>Tour of the Batcave with a short-story of Alfred and Tim
>Profiles and revised character histories for all the active batfam members
>Revised 10 year timeline
>files
You made me actually waste my time reading Zour hour to find if I missed anything and it was just this? Sorry anon, can't take this seriously.
You didn't read Zero Hour when it came out? Why do you care about the long-forgotten character age frick-ups made by long-dead editors in comics published decades before you were born, zoomer?
First, I'm not "zoomer". Second, I actually read it before, but I forgot about it. It was bad back then and it's still bad now so I still blame you for making me suffer this again.
Why didn't they have him die in Year 9, with Tim assuming the mantle some months after? They don't even have a Year 8.
Files like this are usually mess and not well thought out. If we went with this, it mean that Tim became Robin when he was 15.
>Mystique would actually be Nightcrawler's mom
....she isn't? I always thought she was, but I can't say I'm pretty knowledgeable about X-Men.
And Jason being 9 makes prefect sense. He looked pretty young in second chances.
>And Jason being 9 makes prefect sense. He looked pretty young in second chances.
Batman 408-411 is supposed to take place in the past, just like Batman 404-407 (Year One).
>Dick and Tim suffered from this, not just Jason.
Didn't say they didn't, but suffering from a broken leg is the same as dealing with cancer.
>It was never mentioned anywhere else
Doesn't matter. Canon is loose and a convoluted mess, it had been for two decades or more by now. "Everything and nothing is canon" is the new official direction. Comics are literally the same as fanfics now in the sense that every writer makes and write their own "canon".
* isn't the same
I'm not sure what's your issue or point here exactly, to be honest.
That "canon" is not this untouchable wall anon seems to think it is. Jason will keep being whatever is best for other characters.
If Jason actually spent 6 years as Robin then Batman would have been in his 40s during Death in the Family. It really seems like the intent was to posthumously age up Jason so they weren't murdering a pre-teen.
Why you people are making this more complicated than its needs to be? Timeline never made sense in cape comics in general so why it's has to make sense with Jason specifically?
Right? Why it's hard to accept that he was 9 and spent more time as Robin? It's like Bruce or Dick timelines make much sense.
*it's not
I always thought that he was 12 and was Robin for 3 years, but I'm happy to find out that he was actually 9 and spent 6 years with Bruce. It really feels that Bruce actually raised him.
Careful, you might summon the autist that insists that there was no familial love between the two.
>familial love
Define familial love, anon. Maybe also post proof. Bonus if it's not a retcon.
>there was no familial love between the two
I hope they don't actually ship them.
Batman's timeline is more important than Nightwing's which is more important than the Robins, etc.
Which is why nobody ever says Jason was 9.
>Which is why nobody ever says Jason was 9
Nobody says he is anything in comics and we have confirmation that he intended to be 9. Whether you like it or not isn't my problem. I have already accepted that he is 9 and whatever random pages you post (which they are years after his death) won't change Mt mind.
I find it funny how personally you took it.
And btw, here's another page that stated that he was 9.
cool
Is kind of amazing how a literal bad future is kinder to Jason than current comics
What the
Long birthday huh