Okay, I read this, it's Eyes Wide Shut parody, that Kubrick/Tom Cruise movie haha.
You'd think this would be a more popular subject for e-girl artists since the entire Qanon/Epstein/pizzaGate types built their whole world view around elite pedos ruling the world...
Another episode idea of mine: >Due to a day of spying or attending family events, Harriet misses out on a day of fun with Janie and Sport. She becomes annoyed (and a little excluded) when the two share an inside joke between them, especially when the other students are involved as well (including Marion).
https://www.wcostream tv/anime/harriet-the-spy
kimcartoon only has s2
I presume this is in English. That should be fine, thank you really.
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's funny, i was just thinking about how if i wanted to find things in another language, just out of curiosity or something, i would have no idea where to look
Sad panda is banned where I am now, may I have the title so I can look for it elsewhere?
like, countrywide? so even a vpn can't get there? shit dude, get out soon
5 months ago
Anonymous
I feel that way, my English is pretty good. But I wasn't raised on it. Sometimes I just want to hear a show done by a different set of sounds and vocalizations. It's just not as easy sometimes unless someone uploads them personally in the other languages.
finished my first rewatch. this show holds up. though the ending still hurts. they're being such dicks and harriet should not have to apologize for shit.
also does it weird anyone out how they went so out of their way to avoid saying 'thanksgiving' and made it a roast chicken instead of turkey, even referencing it as a known tradition?
and in the 60s they were still riding that whole Norman Rockwell wave, too.
"fall harvest festival" is what schools in the 90s did because well-meaning but utterly misguided christian parents b***hed about the inclusion of halloween. Not thanksgiving. also it still had costumes and candy.
Maybe not embarrassing, but I wouldn't mind an episode where Harriet spies on Beth Ellen being given mysterious boxes from different stores (including from Carlos in his family's deli) while Marion and Rachel aren't around, and Harriet recruits her friends to find out what are in the boxes.
Turns out, Beth Ellen is collecting trading cards (based on "Mars Attacks" cards of the 60s), but not for herself; she's collecting them for another friend's birthday party, and she's doing so in secret so no one would find out (especially from Marion, who looks down on the card set and anyone who collects them).
Another episode would be a Valentines Day-inspired episode.
If there were a Valentines episode, I'd imagine it'd have Harriet receiving anonymous love letters from a secret admirer, which comes across as very heartfelt (if rather cryptic). So she goes around the school and the city to every boy she knows (namely Sport, Carlos, and Chuck), trying to figure out the identity of her secret admirer, but none of the boys admit to sending those letters (not even Pinky or "Purple Socks").
She then suspects that Marion was the one sending those letters as a cruel prank to waste her time and make her look dumb (especially when one of the letters has her going to the park by the water for a meeting, only for the sender to no-show). Not helped that everyone else seems to have a special someone in their life, but she doesn't; Sport and Janie seem closer than she thought, and even Pinky and Purple Socks suggests that they're more than just best buds.
Finally, Harriet gets another letter for another meeting, promising to stop sending the letters if they no-show again. She goes to the same spot as before, and she sees Beth Ellen by the water. Once more, Harriet thinks this is one of Marion's twisted jokes on her, but Beth Ellen assures her that it's genuine, and she really likes Harriet, confessing that she was the one sending those letters, citing how Harriet's always been super nice to her (much nicer than Marion, anyway).
Really, I'd just want this episode for a gag from Harriet's mother: >"You know, Harriet, when I was your age, I used to get hundreds of letters from secret admirers. I still get those letters to this day, distressingly enough."
>any requests? >cute: harriet holding a love letter for chuck (envelope with a heart seal), and aggressively denying that he likes him >lewd: harriet pegging chuck, who has Xs for eyes because his heart couldnt take it
it’s a complicated one but: >harriet and (a redesigned) nick-tan sharing a lollipop like this pic, but with the camera facing the front instead of the back
Was a whole booru really needed for this?
I never knew of this network tan thing until recently.
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(sure) and i redesigned her too, to fit in what nick's brand is like now an'all that
Dude I love your art this design is rad.
I also liked the Pepper Ann I saw above, you draw her on the money like you are really good and cartoon styles.
5 months ago
Anonymous
*at cartoon styles.
5 months ago
Anonymous
/ctg/ were very fun threads but it did start to fizzle over time, when did it stop again? I can't remember if it was raided from outsiders or something like that.
5 months ago
Anonymous
internet's too compartmentalized i reckon
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Was a whole booru really needed for this?
ask not the need, oh newbie zoomer
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm Gen Y, I just didnt visit co for like, six years.
And yes and I am disappointed how badly this place sucks now.
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's gotten a little better lately
it became unusable when the kung flu started and people started talking about generations nonstop. Cut that out. Have you seen Harriet's show?
here's an additional pic of her done by the OG channel-tan creator aswell btw:
5 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
(sure) and i redesigned her too, to fit in what nick's brand is like now an'all that
she's cuter, but lost the distasteful part of her dorkiness
SEXO, but at cost?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Do we know who this artist was?
5 months ago
El Barto
aipiepo, original channel-tan creator
5 months ago
Anonymous
It feels like forever ago. Summer 2016, I still have the art made in thread from that evening. People drew a lot of CN-tan's ass and Dabble was there. Not to derail from the Harriet thread.
5 months ago
El Barto
you're in luck, i made a dedicated thread for this:
Was a whole booru really needed for this?
I never knew of this network tan thing until recently.
[...]
Dude I love your art this design is rad.
I also liked the Pepper Ann I saw above, you draw her on the money like you are really good and cartoon styles.
and thx! you'd be surprised what reference images can do to a guy who usually flounders at it
5 months ago
Anonymous
sponge bob reruns and live action sitcoms for kids
it actually is fantastic
don't want to spoil stuff for you, but.. not only does it not have any dumb modern issue shit (aside from some anachronistic integration), it actually has a racism episode that's.... sane? And actually takes the right tack, about how it's NOT good to throw a fit to get what you want, but just be patient?
it has imitation faux retro soul
it's no Barbar, but pretty chill
it actually is fantastic
don't want to spoil stuff for you, but.. not only does it not have any dumb modern issue shit (aside from some anachronistic integration), it actually has a racism episode that's.... sane? And actually takes the right tack, about how it's NOT good to throw a fit to get what you want, but just be patient?
every kid cartoon show has a race/discrimination episode, spoiler: racism is bad
I feel like you either missed the point of, or didn't read my post
it's UNlike those, in that it's not only not petulant, but actually says a reee tumblr attitude can only make things worse.
>Harriet: Remember how you accused me of taking over the Fall Harvest play just to get revenge on you? >Marion: Yes, and I still stand by that assessment. >Harriet: Well, I think the opposite is true; I think everything YOU do is to get revenge on me and nothing else. >Marion: Really. Where do you get off accusing others of such a thing, Harriet M. Welsch?
Maybe Ole Golly in her youth? Maybe when she was around Harriet's age?
>Harriet: Remember how you accused me of taking over the Fall Harvest play just to get revenge on you? >Marion: Yes, and I still stand by that assessment. >Harriet: Well, I think the opposite is true; I think everything YOU do is to get revenge on me and nothing else. >Marion: Really. Where do you get off accusing others of such a thing, Harriet M. Welsch?
Maybe Ole Golly in her youth? Maybe when she was around Harriet's age?
What exactly was the reason the other kids started crying when Harriet ate the onion during the trial? Did they feel guilty about Harriet seeing herself as a piece of shit?
Yes, the non-psychopathic response to someone else revealing how miserable they feel and becoming upset is empathy, but I can understand the confusion since we live in current year and almost everyone behaves like a psychopath.
I imagine a scenario happening: Marion is taking part in a talent show competition, but she's being dressed-down by one of the judges (like a Simon Cowell or a Gordon Ramsey-type critique of sorts), making her cry. Harriet stands up for her, despite their shared animosity.
Maybe afterwards, Marion admits that she feels guilty that if the roles were reverse—if Harriet was the one being so fiercely judged—she wouldn't have stood up for her. In fact, she'd be sitting back and smiling, and she's deeply bothered by that.
especially marion
selfish power-hungry jerk bullies don't think about the feelings of others. when they're forced to, they feel bad about what they've done and how many people they had to manipulate to hurt someone that badly. what they expect is nothing they do will be able to affect anyone at all beyond anger and annoyance.
Marion can be a b***h but she's not entirely without feelings. I think the point is that all the kids can identify with feeling or being made to feel like shit and while they were mad at Harriet, none of them really wanted to make her feel THAT bad.
i do find it interesting that harriet's criticisms (which again were private thoughts not meant for others to see, which they all eventually begrudgingly agreed were accurate yet were still mad) didn't overlap very hard with the highly critical 60s-parents kinda talk they're surely used to getting.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>the highly critical 60s-parents kinda talk they're surely used to getting
Probably would be the case if they were working class kids, but Harriet is set in a private school in New York and all the parents are upper-middle class (with the possible exception of Rachel, who has a very working class NY accent and whose parents we never see, but she's also the most hardened and aggressive so that would still fit). The most common parenting style among the wealthier classes at that time was being distant and dismissive, that's kinda illustrated by the fact Ole Golly listens to Harriet and offers her advice while her parents have no idea what's going on her life and their only idea is to send her to a therapist.
5 months ago
Anonymous
is that right? My dad grew up in a pretty wealthy part of california, his dad made enough rocket scientist money to have a nice house and a pool, but I guess they weren't like upper-crust rich. He sure had a tough upbringing and so did everyone he knew. and my mom, who grew up nearby, who probably would have been wealthy if she didn't have five hungry siblings. All I know is from what they told me, and from some old stuff I read, it could be shockingly rough. And they always tried to raise me differently.
Makes sense though, i suppose east coast richers who hire nannies and shit are probably running the edwardian model. shut the kids up in a nursery, never have to see them.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm just going off what I know of social history combined with what the show presents, for sure the parents we see are not very involved or interested in their kids' lives. Harriet's parents were apparently even toned down in that respect from the book to make them more likeable, Golly is really her only parental figure.
Also not very on topic for Cinemaphile but regarding your own experiences I think it's fair to say that class =/= wealth. People born into hereditary wealth and power have different attitudes and values from those born poor, you can gain or lose wealth but you don't lose your culture (ever seen Grey Gardens? That's a trip).
5 months ago
Anonymous
yeah that makes sense. my grandpa had to work real hard. he regretted it later though, didn't blame his wife for leaving him or his kids for feeling distant when he was always working or studying for a new degree.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>you can gain or lose wealth but you don't lose your culture
true I guess
commies shot my landowner gramps, never had money myself, but working class parents made sure I got a classical liberal education
5 months ago
Anonymous
>all the parents are upper-middle class (with the possible exception of Rachel, who has a very working class NY accent and whose parents we never see, but she's also the most hardened and aggressive so that would still fit
Would like to see an episode exploring more of Rachel's family life (or at least gleam over or imply it) and whether her dad is present.
I still have that episode idea where Beth Ellen finds herself on Rachel's list of enemies (I think part of it is that Beth Ellen accidentally ran her mouth off and mentioned Rachel's absent father, which is a particular sore spot for her).
Of course, she does mention a little brother who compares her to the Boogey Man.
5 months ago
Anonymous
god, book harriet was cruel
but she didn't do any of it to people's faces until after they read her secret journal, right?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, she got her revenge on everyone after her notebook was read out loud and everyone started bullying and harassing her (much like in the show, though the show was much toned done, limiting to only unleashing a frog on everyone).
5 months ago
Anonymous
okay yeah that makes sense
it's okay to write psycho shit if nobody's meant to see it. just how you vent. and honestly life has lots of fricked up shit to notice. I'm surprised there wasn't any kinda lesson in there about "you can observe negative stuff but if that's ALL you observe, something might be unbalanced"
5 months ago
Anonymous
>replied to with my own shitty pic
Fun. Anon, you have no idea how deep my Rachel headcanon runs. I don't know why of all the Harriet girls I latched onto her so hard, she hardly has much of a role but it seems to me like there are a lot of little things that give hints as to what she's like. The book helped as well but that excerpt in the pic is probably the most interesting revelation, she doesn't exactly have a major role there either.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>all the parents are upper-middle class (with the possible exception of Rachel, who has a very working class NY accent and whose parents we never see, but she's also the most hardened and aggressive so that would still fit
Would like to see an episode exploring more of Rachel's family life (or at least gleam over or imply it) and whether her dad is present.
I still have that episode idea where Beth Ellen finds herself on Rachel's list of enemies (I think part of it is that Beth Ellen accidentally ran her mouth off and mentioned Rachel's absent father, which is a particular sore spot for her).
Of course, she does mention a little brother who compares her to the Boogey Man.
>the brown girl has no father
kept it real
5 months ago
Anonymous
i dunno anon, she looks indian or something. they tend to have good close families. but of course problems can pop up anywhere.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Her race is never clarified so I guess you can headcanon her as whatever you want but >Rachel Hennessey
doesn't strike me as a very Indian name. I'm inclined towards black/Irish mulatto because big hair and an Irish woman having a half-black child out of wedlock in the '60s would be a pretty good reason her father isn't in her life.
You want more Rachel headcanons? >Rachel and Beth Ellen were friends before they got involved with Marion. >How they became friends could wither be Rachel defending Beth Ellen from bullies when they were very young, or Beth Ellen approaching the cactus-like Rachel and offering her friendship (maybe even offering a lollipop, which would explain Rachel's fixation on them). >Since they're best friends, Rachel is much nicer and more patient with Beth Ellen than with anyone else. >Part of the reason they became friends is the fact they have absent parents (the first book had Rachel's absent father, and the sequel book "The Long Secret" focused on Beth Ellen's mother who had been absent since she was about 4 or 5, and also happens to be a vain and controlling socialite). They also happen to have little siblings. >Rachel's lack of a father-figure in her life has always been a sore and sensitive spot in her life, hence why she's quite unapproachable. >Though she often likes to terrorize her little brother, she's more than happy to defend him if every he gets bullied.
Nice ideas Anon, headcanons are a very personal thing but it's cool that Harriet seems to fire people's imaginations like this. It's a very evocative show, the combination of the period setting and the fact it follows the narrative of a novel helped elevate it above a lot of current stuff.
5 months ago
Anonymous
ah yeah that could be.
gosh it's almost like forcing in diversity is a bad thing that's been clumsily handled.
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's as simple as the mother keeping her name cause the guy left...
they just randomly fired the diversity canon at the cast and turned some kids brown/black anyway... it's been tradition for decades, only recently they went full moron with it (and the "blowback")
5 months ago
Anonymous
it's sort of been tradition, but they didn't do it in such inappropriate places (such as period pieces) beause it wasn't literally being mandated by the network, it was being offered as an olive branch. to people who turned out to have no interest in peace.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You want more Rachel headcanons? >Rachel and Beth Ellen were friends before they got involved with Marion. >How they became friends could wither be Rachel defending Beth Ellen from bullies when they were very young, or Beth Ellen approaching the cactus-like Rachel and offering her friendship (maybe even offering a lollipop, which would explain Rachel's fixation on them). >Since they're best friends, Rachel is much nicer and more patient with Beth Ellen than with anyone else. >Part of the reason they became friends is the fact they have absent parents (the first book had Rachel's absent father, and the sequel book "The Long Secret" focused on Beth Ellen's mother who had been absent since she was about 4 or 5, and also happens to be a vain and controlling socialite). They also happen to have little siblings. >Rachel's lack of a father-figure in her life has always been a sore and sensitive spot in her life, hence why she's quite unapproachable. >Though she often likes to terrorize her little brother, she's more than happy to defend him if every he gets bullied.
It's probably too close to realism. There's 2D e-girl and then there's actual children being abused and raped on private islands.
I miss the old days, when everything was sweet and innocent, every anime had a token e-girl, she might end up naked at some point, there's just jokes, nobody's crying or being abused or accusing others of being criminals, except in the gaggiest of shit. a daughter character could have a crush on her teacher or flirt with a hot policeman that pulls them over or whatever. models could pose in magazines, it didn't have to be nasty all the time. Though of course, BEHIND the scenes, it always was. because hollywood.
It's a weird one, at first I presumed her hoodie was an anachronism but she's wearing one on the cover of the original book. I don't think I ever saw a hoodie in any photo from the 1960s before and I can't even find any pictures of anyone who isn't an athlete wearing one by image searching. Harriet the trendsetter four decades early.
seems like everyone says it came from 1930's dockworkers... can't seem to find a definite source though, search for hoodie history gets you a lot of liberal apologetics for discrimination cause city nogs wear it, lmao
It's a weird one, at first I presumed her hoodie was an anachronism but she's wearing one on the cover of the original book. I don't think I ever saw a hoodie in any photo from the 1960s before and I can't even find any pictures of anyone who isn't an athlete wearing one by image searching. Harriet the trendsetter four decades early.
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MARTHA
yeah the jeans said a lot back then too, any girl wearing those is like, rough and tumble.
>mfw ywn envelope her in a big hug while spinning her around in your arms while hearing her cute little giggles
GOD, WHY IS SHE SO FRICKING CUTE, BROS?!
Wish I'd known weird girls like this at school, I would have been their friend and defended them. but I'm pretty much the only one who ever got any shit, that I noticed.
she is not!!
i mean yeah she probably isn't the MOST fastidious in her bathing, especially without Ole Golly to wrestle her clothes off and dunk her in the tub, but she still does it.
I don't think this was the kind of spying and info gathering Harriet had in mind. Though it's nice seeing Harriet getting to join Rachel, Beth, and Marion in something.
They only joined up so they could hear classic rock playing in the background constantly.
Janie's going to wipe out Charlie with her patented Agent Beige anyway, so they won't have to spend any time in danger.
Making the Boy With The Purple Socks have bangs that fall over his eyes is a bit of genius by the animators. By covering his eyes, it looks like he's wearing a mask, hiding his face and making him anonymous. In the book, Harriet gave him that name because he was so nondescript that no one really knew anything about him other than the iconic purple socks.
My guesses are Marion and Rachel are on the left, and Janie (who was white in the original book), Pinky, and Beth Ellen are on the right with Sport behind them. Of course, I could wrong wrong.
I actually wouldn't mind seeing show Janie doing the original Janie's "fierce smile".
In the last episode of Season 2, I almost wish Harriet would have been initially overjoyed to see her classmates turning on each other based on her words in the notebook, sort of in a "Serves them right!" type deal for stealing her things and invading her privacy, before realizing that this is a terrible mindset and realizing that it's basically her fault for their infighting.
I also wish Beth Ellen better stood up for herself in the Season Finale. Maybe not a big thing, but something like, "Why are you always so terrible to me, Marion?!" or, "Harriet was right. You are a lousy, rotten person, Marion Hawthrone..."
>I almost wish Harriet would have been initially overjoyed to see her classmates turning on each other
That's more or less what happens in the book but with even sketchier morals. Harriet purposely waits until the Spycatcher Club falls apart due to internal divisions and only then does she apologise, because she knows they're divided and weakened enough to accept. Harriet the Art of War.
yeah, that was kind of implied but they didn't acknowledge it. even if she's not feeling spiteful, she should feel vindicated. like clearly she was right, and they can no longer deny it
then her speech could have been more reassuring than apologetic. like seriously who doesn't wanna be in the weirdo circus? what other circus IS there?
>I almost wish Harriet would have been initially overjoyed to see her classmates turning on each other
That's more or less what happens in the book but with even sketchier morals. Harriet purposely waits until the Spycatcher Club falls apart due to internal divisions and only then does she apologise, because she knows they're divided and weakened enough to accept. Harriet the Art of War.
kek. love it
Do you think she still goes to her therapist, even after everything turned out alright for her in the end? Maybe talk more about Ole Golly?
i like to think she goes to really good therapists, none of the fricked up 60s ones who ruin lives, but the experimental cool ones like Paul Bindrim.
also Harriet is badass for eating the onion with the fricking skin still on. you tear that part off, man. that's like the banana peel. but she ate it right out of the paper..
>You know we're the only country where the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed in writing? Do you believe that? A bunch of fricking spoiled brats. Where's my happiness then? >It's the pursuit that's guaranteed. >Yeah, always a fricking loophole.
I think given how hard-wired Harriet is for obsessively observing, thinking and writing everything down yet doesn't really share those things with anyone else, a therapist is probably a very good idea. She's gonna go crazy keeping all those thoughts inside otherwise.
>She's gonna go crazy keeping all those thoughts inside otherwise.
That's how she ended up at the therapist, in the book at least. Her parents and teacher initially tried to "fix" her by limiting the amount of time she could spend writing in her notebook, but that backfired horribly. Harriet's mind DEMANDS that she put her thoughts down on paper, and if she isn't allowed to do that, she goes bonkers.
Harriet is really really cute!! She has cute behavior and she's kind of a little weirdo. And I relate to her getting in trouble for doing nothing wrong.
>Harriet is really really cute!!
I don't disagree here. The characters look like they would be a good subject to draw but the deleted post really make it a scary idea.
>being based on a book means the show is following an already existing narrative rather than being made up as it goes along by different writers with conflicting ideas, the ending was also already written so it wasn't botched or left unfinished >22 minute episodes allow for relaxed, comfy pacing that doesn't feel rushed >the stories and characters are mostly grounded in reality >being set in the 1960s means its idea of being relatable to children is to show universally shared childhood experiences instead of trend chasing and "how do you do fellow kids" references >pleasing and quite unique aesthetic and colour palette >cute girls
Nothing against wackier faster paced shows, they can be enjoyable too but Harriet felt like a refreshing change of pace and tone compared to most new cartoons.
I am not quoting all that but thanks for the detailed list of explanations, I primarily grew curious because some post in here become quite intellectual for a cartoon character who kind of looks like an onion. Also VLC snap file name, so you have the files for the seasons?
she's like me if I was a cute little girl in the 60's with a happy family and a future
so nothing like me
Damn, well I would say escapism is bad or post the meme but if Harriet makes you happy than you can keep that. I was just curious plus much older than you would expect.
It was just weird to see people delete their post, they look fairly harmless.
>some post in here become quite intellectual for a cartoon character who kind of looks like an onion
Harriet does seem to fire people's imaginations. Granted a lot of that is lewd (nothing wrong with that as long as you don't post it here, apparently) but the setting, characters and stories are interesting enough to inspire people beyond just the cute designs. Maybe people have a soft spot for nostalgic/retro stuff set in a time the world seemed like a simpler place.
>you have the files for the seasons?
Yes, if you're looking to download the show there are megas and torrents but posting links to the megas on Cinemaphile seems to result in them getting deleted. If you can torrent eztv is your friend.
>Granted a lot of that is lewd
Eh, it's what the people want. Anything with a fanbase will have lewds, even small communal ones. The world has grown quite hectic, hell Cinemaphile for me has grown hectic which is why I am doing my best to understand threads these days.
>posting links to the megas on Cinemaphile seems to result in them getting deleted. If you can torrent eztv is your friend.
It's always been that way so that's fine, but thanks for confirming that file versions do exist.
I think we just have nostalgia for childhood. Usually, the version depicted on TV, which involved lots of socializing and adventure and solvable moral quandries. A lot of us didn't get any of that, and maybe assumed someday it'd be like teens on TV, but didn't get that either. And now life is going "hmm this is empty, but we can make it emptier"
I started rewatching Salute Your Shorts, and for something that's literally about how hilariously miserable their lives are, I just want to BE there. To be Then. At least to be back in the audience, in a time when a kids' show could say 'pissed off' and make jokes about puberty. >megas
there's.. a way around that. I probably shouldn't say it out loud, but look into it.
>I think we just have nostalgia for childhood.
I wish I could feel that way, but I didn't grow up in North America only moving here later in life. Also TV was kinda different where I came from depending on the household. We were poor. Life does feel like shit sometimes so all I can say is keep your chin up lads.
they aren't deleting their own posts, anon. >somewhere poor
i saw a fascinating youtube video on what it was like for people my age growing up in mexico, he told us all the tv shows and games they got and how it helped them deal with all the shit that kept happening. We've all been on different rides, but man they have similarities.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>they aren't deleting their own posts, anon.
Well whatever the case, it still weird.
>We've all been on different rides, but man they have similarities.
All humans have their own experiences, which writing for media can and will derive from human experiences even if they were not from the perspective of writing or design staff even. I am glad to hear that people do still empathize because other places online you would see people closing their ideas off more then sharing the stories proper. I would say it might be similar, house full of uncles and aunts under one grandmother, grandfather talking about doing only what he wants and all oldest need to be this in any sibling set, you could either get the ladle, field duty or spend time with the goats and chickens if you misbehaved. It was fun to experience some entertainment even if it was just dubs of older shows just coming out now. A ton of Japanese media to be honest more than American stuff. I am guessing that feeling is what you anons feel for Harriet?
5 months ago
Anonymous
a bit!
and yeah you guys in the poorlands got a lot of good anime, stuff they wouldn't show here, that's why there's so many great latin american webcomic artists
5 months ago
Anonymous
Well thank you for helping me understand. Hopefully more people will come and check out Harriet then if it can invoke such a feeling. May the artist flow into your thread to give you many pictures.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I can't think of anything to draw and haven't for the last like 4 threads
5 months ago
Anonymous
Draw Rachel, Marion, and Beth Ellen in Mai, Azula, and Ty Lee's swimsuits, respectively.
5 months ago
Anonymous
yes, only if they are lezing out
5 months ago
Anonymous
Oh you draw, well maybe draw since it sounds like you are suffering from some burn out. Possibly request being the same every thread or something like that style burn out.
Interesting perspective...but why though
5 months ago
El Barto
tbf a lot of us do seem to repeat it in case someone actually does pick it up so uh
take 5 and come back when you feel reinvigorated
5 months ago
Anonymous
we'll see how tomorrow goes! If it's still here.
I'm just glad nobody has forgotten Harriet. now if I can get some Cleopatra in Space threads going, I can make up for lost time there too. That period where Cinemaphile was just insufferable, I missed out on a lot of good shows because nobody was telling me they were good.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Interesting perspective...but why though
it was requested
>some post in here become quite intellectual for a cartoon character who kind of looks like an onion
Harriet does seem to fire people's imaginations. Granted a lot of that is lewd (nothing wrong with that as long as you don't post it here, apparently) but the setting, characters and stories are interesting enough to inspire people beyond just the cute designs. Maybe people have a soft spot for nostalgic/retro stuff set in a time the world seemed like a simpler place.
>you have the files for the seasons?
Yes, if you're looking to download the show there are megas and torrents but posting links to the megas on Cinemaphile seems to result in them getting deleted. If you can torrent eztv is your friend.
I think we just have nostalgia for childhood. Usually, the version depicted on TV, which involved lots of socializing and adventure and solvable moral quandries. A lot of us didn't get any of that, and maybe assumed someday it'd be like teens on TV, but didn't get that either. And now life is going "hmm this is empty, but we can make it emptier"
I started rewatching Salute Your Shorts, and for something that's literally about how hilariously miserable their lives are, I just want to BE there. To be Then. At least to be back in the audience, in a time when a kids' show could say 'pissed off' and make jokes about puberty. >megas
there's.. a way around that. I probably shouldn't say it out loud, but look into it.
>being based on a book means the show is following an already existing narrative rather than being made up as it goes along by different writers with conflicting ideas, the ending was also already written so it wasn't botched or left unfinished >22 minute episodes allow for relaxed, comfy pacing that doesn't feel rushed >the stories and characters are mostly grounded in reality >being set in the 1960s means its idea of being relatable to children is to show universally shared childhood experiences instead of trend chasing and "how do you do fellow kids" references >pleasing and quite unique aesthetic and colour palette >cute girls
Nothing against wackier faster paced shows, they can be enjoyable too but Harriet felt like a refreshing change of pace and tone compared to most new cartoons.
My parents did not have nearly as nice a time when they were... 8 and 12 years younger than her, but this still makes me think about them. They tried to give me a way nicer childhood.
man that's cool
all I ever wanted to do was watch TV. but in my defense, tv was really, really good when I was a kid. to the point that now all surviving entertainment franchises are based on things I watched.
yeah probably. I feel like we would have seen him tagging along if he was younger, typical little brother behavior. He's probably 16ish and has a job, helping pay Janie's tuition.
her teeth are cute as shit
i'[m surprised a late bloomer like her was already losing her last baby tooth early in her 12th year. though it is a premolar. but I was still losing molars by that age.
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The Beth Ellen on Rachel's enemies list idea: >Harriet and her friends find mysterious notes in their lockers, asking them to meet up in an empty classroom, signed by "BEH". >Turns out, it was Beth Ellen Hansen who wrote those notes to them. >She's in a panic; she just found out she got on Rachel Hennessey's "The List" (her list of enemies she'll get revenge on), and she blames herself for her stupidity. >Beth Ellen explains that on her way to school with Marion and Rachel, Rachel was in a particularly foul mood that day—the worst she had ever been. Wanting to cheer up her best friend, Beth Ellen decided to do little favors for Rachel (like getting her favorite lunch or carrying her stuff), but these attempts backfire in particularly disastrous ways (like Beth Ellen slipping on a banana peel and dropping the food on Rachel's head, or dropping all her things and scattering it everywhere). >What really seals the deal is when Beth Ellen accidently shoots her mouth off and mentions Rachel's father (who had left her and her family when she was very young, and is a sore spot to her), which makes Rachel even more angry at her. With this mistake, Beth Ellen finds her name in Rachel's list. >Harriet and her friends agree to help Beth Ellen get her name removed from the list, much to her surprise and delight.
(2/?) >Sport is first to suggest that Beth Ellen wait for when Rachel's in a good mood to ask for her name to be removed (he believes Rachel only added it because she was in a bad mood that day). Beth Ellen waits for Rachel to be in a good mood to ask, but these attempts end up backfiring (getting results of an important test back, only to flunk it, or finding out they're out of her favorite dessert for lunch), making her mood worse. >Janie is second to suggest Beth Ellen do really grand favors for Rachel to earn her favor (like buying the most expensive lollipops she can buy, or giving her massages), but these attempts backfire, too, making Rachel feel uncomfortable (not helped that Beth Ellen is forced to give Marion a foot massage afterwards). >Harriet is third to suggest they take matters into their own hands; they'll need to remove Beth Ellen's name from the list themselves. >Gym class is the only time Rachel won't have her list on her person, so the group devise a plan: while Janie and Sport run interference, Harriet and Beth Ellen will break into Rachel's locker and change her list. >While Janie and Sport keep Rachel busy, Harriet and Beth Ellen sneak to her locker, where they find a snag in their plan: Rachel's locker is locked, and Beth Ellen doesn't remember the 4-digit combination (she does recall it starting with a 19, though, indicating it may be a year). Harriet gets to work going through each and every combination from 1900-1999.
(3/?) >Janie and Sport continue to try and distract Rachel, though it becomes more and more challenging when she starts losing her patience. >While Harriet goes through the lock combinations, she asks Beth Ellen why she's so worried about being on the list; she's best friends with Rachel, and what's the worst that can happen? Beth Ellen explains being on the list at all means Rachel would do something horrible to her, like giving her an atomic wedgie, dumping buckets of paint on her during an important event, or just humiliating herself. But worst of all, Rachel may just end her friendship with Beth Ellen, which is far worse than any cruel prank. >Harriet comforts Beth Ellen, saying that no matter what happens, Beth Ellen's friendship with Rachel will survive, but even if it doesn't, she can still be friends with Harriet and her friends. >Harriet then asks how Beth Ellen became friends with Rachel. Beth Ellen recounts that time she was very young, when she was saved by Rachel from a bunch of bullies. Beth Ellen thanked her, offering a lollipop in friendship, and the two have been together ever since. They latter befriended Marion in the 3rd grade, and she became their leader since. >Beth Ellen suddenly remembers! 1956! That was the year she and Rachel became friends! That's the locker combination! >Harriet puts in the combination, and it opens. Open Sesame!
(4/?) >Harriet and Beth Ellen find "The List" (confirming that Beth Ellen's name is indeed on the list), but they need to erase other names as well so that Rachel doesn't automatically assume it was Beth Ellen who did it. >And not a moment too soon, as Rachel has had enough of Janie and Sport's shenanigans and marches to her locker. Harriet and Beth Ellen finish their scheme just in time, and Rachel is none-the-wiser. >Later, Beth Ellen thanks Harriet and her friends for their help, feeling a tremendous weight lifting from her shoulders. She's like to be friends with the trio, regardless if Marion approves or not. >Beth Ellen meets up Rachel later, who is furious that someone broke into her locker and changed her list. Though Beth Ellen tries to play dumb, Rachel knows it was her who did it—she's not dumb—and she merely rewrote Beth Ellen's name in permanent marker, much to her horror. >Beth Ellen is panicking. Harriet and her friends only made things worse for her, and now she believes that Rachel is out to get her. This made all the worse when she accidently slips on some wet floor, confirming her suspicions and sending her into a shrieking panic before fainting. >Harriet and her friends take her to the nurse's office, who then sends her home to recover.
(5/5) >Rachel and Marion confront Harriet and her friends, apparently unaware of Beth Ellen's little episode. They demand to know where Beth Ellen is. >The trio explains that they only trying to help out Beth Ellen for the little mistake she made. And now she believes Rachel's out to get her, causing her faint spell. >This makes Rachel deeply concerned. What did she do? >They all go to Beth Ellen's house, and they find her trying to pack her things; she going to run away to avoid Rachel's wrath. >Beth Ellen tearfully pleads for Rachel's forgiveness, accusing herself of being such a horrid friend for everything she had done. Rachel is the one who calls herself that horrid friend for causing Beth Ellen so much grief in the first place. >The reason she was in such a bad mood in the first place was because of a heated argument she had with her mother that day, and Beth Ellen paid the price when all she did was try to cheer her up. >Rachel removes Beth Ellen's name from the list, and the two reconcile. >Rachel then says she's writing Harriet and her friends' names in permanent marker, but they don't mind. >Episode concludes with Harriet recapping that Beth Ellen and Rachel's relationship is stronger than ever, but Beth Ellen is still good friends with the trip on the side.
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>Harriet thinks you can solve a name being on an enemy list by just erasing it, as if nothing that isn't written down is remembered >thinks she can just brute force a locker combo in the time it takes for a shower to finish
i love it, very in-character.
(3/?) >Janie and Sport continue to try and distract Rachel, though it becomes more and more challenging when she starts losing her patience. >While Harriet goes through the lock combinations, she asks Beth Ellen why she's so worried about being on the list; she's best friends with Rachel, and what's the worst that can happen? Beth Ellen explains being on the list at all means Rachel would do something horrible to her, like giving her an atomic wedgie, dumping buckets of paint on her during an important event, or just humiliating herself. But worst of all, Rachel may just end her friendship with Beth Ellen, which is far worse than any cruel prank. >Harriet comforts Beth Ellen, saying that no matter what happens, Beth Ellen's friendship with Rachel will survive, but even if it doesn't, she can still be friends with Harriet and her friends. >Harriet then asks how Beth Ellen became friends with Rachel. Beth Ellen recounts that time she was very young, when she was saved by Rachel from a bunch of bullies. Beth Ellen thanked her, offering a lollipop in friendship, and the two have been together ever since. They latter befriended Marion in the 3rd grade, and she became their leader since. >Beth Ellen suddenly remembers! 1956! That was the year she and Rachel became friends! That's the locker combination! >Harriet puts in the combination, and it opens. Open Sesame!
eyy this is a good plot wave here.
(4/?) >Harriet and Beth Ellen find "The List" (confirming that Beth Ellen's name is indeed on the list), but they need to erase other names as well so that Rachel doesn't automatically assume it was Beth Ellen who did it. >And not a moment too soon, as Rachel has had enough of Janie and Sport's shenanigans and marches to her locker. Harriet and Beth Ellen finish their scheme just in time, and Rachel is none-the-wiser. >Later, Beth Ellen thanks Harriet and her friends for their help, feeling a tremendous weight lifting from her shoulders. She's like to be friends with the trio, regardless if Marion approves or not. >Beth Ellen meets up Rachel later, who is furious that someone broke into her locker and changed her list. Though Beth Ellen tries to play dumb, Rachel knows it was her who did it—she's not dumb—and she merely rewrote Beth Ellen's name in permanent marker, much to her horror. >Beth Ellen is panicking. Harriet and her friends only made things worse for her, and now she believes that Rachel is out to get her. This made all the worse when she accidently slips on some wet floor, confirming her suspicions and sending her into a shrieking panic before fainting. >Harriet and her friends take her to the nurse's office, who then sends her home to recover.
okay i'm not sure if the plan to erase multiple names actually makes this smarter or dumber >Sport's
wait what's he doing in the girls' locker room. Ohh this is the regular lockers, outside. Aw man, I wanted a locker room plot. with towels and such. I figured she would have the list on her any other time.
(5/5) >Rachel and Marion confront Harriet and her friends, apparently unaware of Beth Ellen's little episode. They demand to know where Beth Ellen is. >The trio explains that they only trying to help out Beth Ellen for the little mistake she made. And now she believes Rachel's out to get her, causing her faint spell. >This makes Rachel deeply concerned. What did she do? >They all go to Beth Ellen's house, and they find her trying to pack her things; she going to run away to avoid Rachel's wrath. >Beth Ellen tearfully pleads for Rachel's forgiveness, accusing herself of being such a horrid friend for everything she had done. Rachel is the one who calls herself that horrid friend for causing Beth Ellen so much grief in the first place. >The reason she was in such a bad mood in the first place was because of a heated argument she had with her mother that day, and Beth Ellen paid the price when all she did was try to cheer her up. >Rachel removes Beth Ellen's name from the list, and the two reconcile. >Rachel then says she's writing Harriet and her friends' names in permanent marker, but they don't mind. >Episode concludes with Harriet recapping that Beth Ellen and Rachel's relationship is stronger than ever, but Beth Ellen is still good friends with the trip on the side.
End
Cute! very good story outline, anon. I'd watch the frick out of this episode.
Thank you! Yeah, I wanted the trio to question what "BEH" means before realizing together that it's Beth Ellen Hansen.
>Harriet thinks you can solve a name being on an enemy list by just erasing it, as if nothing that isn't written down is remembered >thinks she can just brute force a locker combo in the time it takes for a shower to finish
i love it, very in-character.
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eyy this is a good plot wave here.
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okay i'm not sure if the plan to erase multiple names actually makes this smarter or dumber >Sport's
wait what's he doing in the girls' locker room. Ohh this is the regular lockers, outside. Aw man, I wanted a locker room plot. with towels and such. I figured she would have the list on her any other time.
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Cute! very good story outline, anon. I'd watch the frick out of this episode.
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Something public domain
>i love it, very in-character.
Yeah, Harriet can be very smart, but super dumb when trying to plan ahead. >eyy this is a good plot wave here.
That part where Beth Ellen expresses her doubts and fears, and explains her backstory about herself and Rachel? Thanks. >okay i'm not sure if the plan to erase multiple names actually makes this smarter or dumber
It probably makes more sense in Harriet and Beth Ellen's heads. Again, Harriet's not so good with planning ahead. >wait what's he doing in the girls' locker room. Ohh this is the regular lockers, outside. Aw man, I wanted a locker room plot. with towels and such. I figured she would have the list on her any other time.
No, Janie and Sport are in the main gym room distracting Rachel (probably keeping her busy with the rope climb activity and making themselves look foolish), while Harriet and Beth Ellen are in the Girls Locker room, trying to break into Rachel's gym locker. Does the school even have locker rooms, though? I wonder... >Cute! very good story outline, anon. I'd watch the frick out of this episode.
Thank you!
>the backstory
that and the sudden realization. There's nothing as dumb and hilarious as a completely random revelation that solves things, so a proper thought-out one is satisfying. >does the school even
I'm not sure about private schools, but I think in the 60s they were all about that. Get everybody nekkid, hand out swimsuits to half of them. deal with it.
Speaking of which, the boy with the small face is very amusing to me because of how small his face is when compared to the rest of his head. Unless he already has a name, I've christened him "Russell, the Boy with the Small Face" or "Small Face".
I'm sure that's what anon meant
that shit was infamously bad back then. actually as late as the 80s, my dad still called his Meals Ready to Excrete.
they're only now good
i mean it's all meant to be perpetually shelf-stable food, the kind that only loses a little quality after like 5 years but remains edible. What i meant was that they have started making a lot better tasting ones. these days they basically get normal food. you get like, ravioli, curry, sausage and potato egg scramble, normal chow. no more shit on a shingle.
GERMANS!
I love how one of the tourists is Wonder Boy and/or Professor Nimnul.
What would Harriet have said about her classmates if she had time in the first episode? >This is my best friend, Janie Gibbs. I've known her since kindergarten and can tell you she's getting weirder every year. >Simon "Sport" Rocque is my other best friend. In a funny way, he's getting more normal every year. >Ugh... Marion Hawthorne, the richest and most popular student at Gregory School. She's also a mean and rotten person who Janie and I will someday get revenge on. >That's Rachel Hennessey, the muscle of Marion's little group. Whenever Marion needs or wants something she can't get herself, she sends in Rachel to do her dirty work. >Beth Ellen Hansen, another friend of Marion and Rachel's. Unlike the two of them, she's actually really nice and I like her, but she's really shy and a total suck-up for Marion's approval. >Those two boys over there are Pinky Whitehead and the Boy with the Purple Socks. I swear, I don't think I've ever seen those two apart from each other—like two peas in a pod. >Finally, there's Carrie Andrews. She's friendly enough, though I gotta say, she can be a bit of an oddball at times.
Recently decided to give an opportunity to watch this series and its surprisingly good! And very chill similar to shows like Hilda and Elinor.
Wonder when we'll get a s3 announcement? Unless they're preparing to make a movie to finish the main plot and therefore the show.
It was so common in the 80s too, cartoons were built different. It was for gags and laughs sure. But I was exploring the era for some time now and just noticed that no matter the market target audience we could flash underwear and it was fine. Times sure did change a lot.
I like to think part of the reason Janie and Sport got so mad at Harriet for the things she wrote in her notebook is because they were mad at themselves for realizing she was correct.
For Janie, there may be times she may think she's not as smart as she likes to think she is, but rather than admit to that fact, she turned her anger towards Harriet for pointing that out.
As for Sport, he's probably jealous at Harriet and Janie for being able to live relatively normal lives with normal worries, while he has to take care of his deadbeat father and worry if they'll have enough money to put food on the table or have a roof over their heads.
yeah unlike the rest at the trial, they didn't seem the least bit surprised to have the truth of their foibles pointed out. What's more, Harriet got -Janie- to admit she was right about -Sport.-
If there had been more time, I think we would have seen everyone tearing each other apart more.
I do wonder what the hell the parents and teachers thought of Harriet hijacking the not-thanksgiving play though. I mean from a story standpoint, it's a thing. but in real life, in school (at least 90s public school like I experienced) everything is rigidly regimented, deviating is not allowed, especially when there's an audience of people who came here to see a specific thing. Even my clueless ass knew not to try to make big scenes and make them about me, during someone else's thing.
Probably never. But it took about a year from the first season ending to the second releasing early 2023 so if there is a third season in the works, maybe later this year or early next year? I mean there are other books for them to adapt, or they could always go the route of original material, but both routes are sort of questionable for their own reasons.
The sequel books sound like they’d make for quite interesting adaptations (one seeing Beth Ellen & Harriet on summer break away from the city dealing with puberty, the reappearance of Beth Ellen’s absent mother and vapid rich people, the other seeing Sport inherit a fortune which his absent mother shows up and tries to get her hands on - I get the feeling Fitzhugh didn’t have a great relationship with her mother) but they’d be fairly big departures from this show’s formula.
I’m struggling to think of other kids’ books that would make for good animated shows, I think most of the books I read as a kid (Roald Dahl, Moomins, Tolkien, can’t really think of anything else that stuck with me) already have screen adaptations of some kind.
Yeah all the obvious ones have been done, that's kinda what makes this show so great. all it's had is a movie, which was fine, but it was kind of a blank slate in people's minds so they could do their own thing with it.
I've mentioned it before, but a few books stand out to me like Onion Joe and Maniac Magee, which had a similar kind of down home interesting real-kid-life flavor to them.
>The sequel books sound like they’d make for quite interesting adaptations (one seeing Beth Ellen & Harriet on summer break away from the city dealing with puberty, the reappearance of Beth Ellen’s absent mother and vapid rich people, the other seeing Sport inherit a fortune which his absent mother shows up and tries to get her hands on - I get the feeling Fitzhugh didn’t have a great relationship with her mother) but they’d be fairly big departures from this show’s formula.
Of course, the show doesn't have to do a 1:1 adaptation of the sequel books, much like how the show took certain liberties with the source material (though the story beats stayed mostly true to the book).
If, for example, they did an episode or few of "The Long Secret" (the sequel book focusing on Beth Ellen and her issues dealing with her mom), what would stay and what would go? If we just focus on the mother for a moment, she was a vain and controlling person who wanted to mold Beth Ellen into a reflection of her—someone who wanted to get rich, but didn't want to put the effort into anything. In the end, she wanted to take Beth Ellen away to Europe, but she stood up to her mother and told her to frick off.
Would the mother still be the vain and controlling woman she was in the book, or would she get some kind of change, or maybe a redemption and decides to change for her daughter's/daughters' sake?
I think the fact the central story is one of Beth Ellen going from having an idealised version of her mother as the sort of woman she wants to grow into, to having the veil lifted and realising how toxic she is and rejecting her mother’s values (or lack of) would probably make The Long Secret a hard sell as a kids’ show. The moral that you aren’t doomed to become like your parents and can choose to go your own way, while it’s a good one, I think would still be sufficiently controversial among parents that nobody would touch it (especially in current year where malevolent mother figures are considered a harmful trope, even if they do really exist) but tacking on a happy ending where her mother changes instead would change the intended moral completely. The point is that Beth Ellen realises she can choose a different path, not that her mother does.
That is a very good point, although they did do an episode that tackled racism (a songwriter not getting credit for the songs he wrote). I can't imagine an episode featuring a bad parent and a kid try to avoid becoming like them being totally impossible.
What would they change with Beth Ellen's mother if she did show up, though? The show has occasionally deviated from the source material with their characters. For example, in the book, Mrs. Plumber, iirc, was a socialite who wanted to stay in bed all day out of sheer laziness (could be wrong). In the show, she stayed in bed out of fear and anxiety her latest business venture wouldn't be a success.
Also, with Mrs. Galliano (Ole Golly's mother), who in the book was a senile old woman who did nothing with her life, and may have had dementia. In the show, she was much more active and jolly and sharp-minded.
What would/should Beth Ellen's mother look like in the show?
I also wouldn't seeing what Beth Ellen's mother might have looked like (or what kind of character she would be) if she were in the show.
The other kids bear some resemblance to their mothers, but how much/little would Beth Ellen's mother look like her? Would she still have a little beauty mark on her face, and if so, where?
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Well there is this illustration of Beth Ellen's mother and her boyfriend from the book, as well as the following description: >Harriet looked her over carefully. To say that she was a beautiful woman would be an understatement. There was an extraordinary glow to her tan face; her thin body, like the body of a dancer, moved with amazing grace. Well, thought Harriet, I’ve never seen a mother look like that. I’ve never even seen any kind of woman look like that.
I think her appearance is very much intended to make Beth Ellen feel inadequate by comparison. That's even spelled out a couple of paragraphs later: >Oh, God, thought Beth Ellen, why couldn’t she have been fat and wearing a flowered dress?
5 months ago
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That is a fair point. Of course, this is what Beth Ellen looked like in the same book.
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5 months ago
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>I came here to laugh at you
Pretty cool translation into the show style, I like it.
Probably never. But it took about a year from the first season ending to the second releasing early 2023 so if there is a third season in the works, maybe later this year or early next year? I mean there are other books for them to adapt, or they could always go the route of original material, but both routes are sort of questionable for their own reasons.
I do like the idea of the story taking a shift and talking about puberty junk
but the stakes are never going to be this high again, so anything further would be a letdown. Harriet's had her life's biggest moments. It could only work as a kinda... reunion special / movie kinda thing. Which could only feel right if this show became a household name.
Cute Beth Ellen there anon. The post is a classic and I like the goofy Harriet. Can't wait to see the very detail and extensive entry in her journal Harriet is going to make after this experience. That and her then many many attempts at recreating the same shot with Beth and other girls for her record.
That is a good Beth Ellen upskirt outline. Admittedly, I do like the joke of her wearing something unexpectedly bold, but soft and more modest like this fits her well.
Now we just need a Marilyn Monroe-style parody shot of Beth Ellen holding her dress down while standing on top of a grate, while hot air pushes her dress up.
This is what it should be, something plain jane but at the time. This is what I was going for before I quit, good on ya for getting it done. Just editing of the skirt since I don't really have artistic talent or merit.
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Now we just need a Marilyn Monroe-style parody shot of Beth Ellen holding her dress down while standing on top of a grate, while hot air pushes her dress up.
Could be really funny, maybe some comments from the peanut gallery of kids too.
It's close enough, it's like them older style panty shots where they round off the bottom more than cling to form in complex ways. Harriet's expression is what gets me though, good work on that. I am just glad people attempted this concept.
I might not have seen much Harriet or read any of the books. but when I see good character design I will always nod my head and love them. This show has so many well done characters too. Man I really wish I had a Harriet sipping a coffee picture for this.
based dA diaper degenerates, no show is too obscure
what's sad is it's not a hard fetish to understand. the power dynamics, helplessness, intimacy of being cleaned and cared for. These people have been through the wringer, and just want to go back. I mean we all do, but most of us want to go back to high school. maybe middle school.
Knowledge of how to write well does. You’re not going to write anything very compelling if you don’t have any knowledge of the things you’re writing about, either.
well there's good and there's good, see..
writing talent is built in, and writing skill is about how hard you've studied literature and how to write
but writing QUALITY.... it relies on a ton of other things. Mine suffers because I have no life experience, and know nothing except other fiction. and even that, I've only recently started getting into themes, arcs, etc from reviews on youtube. when you know about life, certain things are a lot easier to write about.
I don't know how she can eat so much mayo. Or any mayo. Her one flaw.
5 months ago
Anonymous
you haven't had good mayo. get some Burman's from ALDI.
>4 slices for one sandwich
She really likes her acids high. Also unsalte tomato so I would assume it's of a breed of tomato with a more naturally sweet taste otherwise the mayo being egg isn't doing much for her. I wonder if this is just a quirky thing or a thing more popularized because the time period it takes place in.
raw tomatoes aren't that acidic.. i dunno. i like campari tomates. they are good even without salt.
I think people, especially upper classy ones, used to just eat different stuff. less filling stuff.
The tomatoes in the 60s probably tasted better than the crap he have now. The big red ones at the super market have been bred to LOOK appealing, but have minimal flavor. It's literally style over substance.
kek, you are either very young or have blotted out old memories. old food was fricking lousy, and all that shit about "appealing but bad tasting" red-delicious-apple shit was WAY more prevalent back then.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>very young or have blotted out old memories
Neither. I wasn't alive in the 60s and today's tomatoes are bland. I was just supposing that maybe they tasted better.
5 months ago
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I meant even in the 90s you had to remember how inferior the food was.
tomatoes have always been bland because they ship them out green (so they're firm enough not to squish) and then fast-ripen them with ethylene (equivalent to taking an underripe fruit home and putting it in a bag with a banana). So they don't develop complex flavors. Have a campari, I think you'll be happier. But yeah garden-grown ones are always the best, if you can keep them from shriveling or bursting or being devoured by everything in sight.
the 60s was still kind of in the post war period, there was an obsession with prepackaged foods, and they hadn't really gotten them quite right yet. Now that said, over time, a lot of it became quite tasty. For every gross old can of cream of something soup, you had good developments like chef boyardee, whose old recipe is demonstrably better than the new (they brought it back recently as 'throwback' and they took it away for covid because we liked it too much)
these things do ebb and flow though. I can think of a dozen canned products vastly superior to what they have now, which were taken away.
but producewise, yeah this was smack in the middle of the "whatever, if it ships well, people want it" era. because supermarkets had become the thing, no longer mainly local markets. It wasn't til the 80s that people finally started ditching shit like red delicious apples, to the point that, by the 90s, Clinton had to bail out washington's apple industry.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>raw tomatoes aren't that acidic..
Depends on your palate and any ongoing medical conditions one might or might not have. There are people out there that taste a spectrum of stuff that is beyond it but are super picky because of it. And people who don't taste a damn thing off about something and eat rotten product. All humans are different than the next one you encounter.
>4 slices for one sandwich
She really likes her acids high. Also unsalte tomato so I would assume it's of a breed of tomato with a more naturally sweet taste otherwise the mayo being egg isn't doing much for her. I wonder if this is just a quirky thing or a thing more popularized because the time period it takes place in.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The tomatoes in the 60s probably tasted better than the crap he have now. The big red ones at the super market have been bred to LOOK appealing, but have minimal flavor. It's literally style over substance.
to be a good nerd, you have to know everything
and to know everything, you have to sit at your computer for hours, following one subject to the next, ablorbing tons of useless information and piecing together an understanding of reality.
Janie slowly tricking Harriet into exploring herself by comparing parts to tomatoes. What a cunning plan.
5 months ago
Anonymous
what did girls call their best areas in the 60s. i feel like that is not very well documented.
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Anonymous
Asking the hard hitting questions, supposedly according to fairly not reliable sources the list for girl's delicates of the 1960s is as follows: Fur Burger, Bearded Clam, Growler, Muffin, Sausage Grinder. There was a website for this but it's gone now and the web archive versions don't seem to be working. Here is a piece of the list but it was way more.
Incredibly cute!
Super Cute!
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Fur Burger >Muffin
These words sounds like something Beth Ellen would definitely say because saying the actual terms would have embarrassed her for being too lewd and I love it!
Also >Sausage Grinder
Should have been >Organ Grinder
Would have been a lot more clever and innocent like!
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Beth Ellen's Muffin
This has potential, for another funny picture.
Whatever Golly would tell her it's called
And as a Joisey Italian, she would probably call it her tortellino >Have you got one of those too, Ole Golly? >I'm a grownup, so I have a tortellone.
Well we are running out of thread, and it's been an eventful one. Unless an artist wants to come back with some fresh art of Harriet squeezing her tomatoes then discussion of Tomato based sandwiches it is.
Asking the hard hitting questions, supposedly according to fairly not reliable sources the list for girl's delicates of the 1960s is as follows: Fur Burger, Bearded Clam, Growler, Muffin, Sausage Grinder. There was a website for this but it's gone now and the web archive versions don't seem to be working. Here is a piece of the list but it was way more.
[...]
Super Cute!
why must all the best parts of the internet disappear >mutton-flaps >foregut >Einstein >saltfish >gazookas
this is amazing and a half, anon.
I remember that "poes", "gaff" and "gully" was on this list above the 60s decade too, but I was surprised when the site has been down since 2020 or so. Strangely enough, most terms for breast have not changed like this and people back then were still calling them hooters and sweater puppies and such.
Reminds me of the whole "Buffing your muffing" joke from an older piece of media that came out in the early 70s. But which term do you think Harriet would be more comfortable using anons?
Whatever Golly would tell her it's called
And as a Joisey Italian, she would probably call it her tortellino >Have you got one of those too, Ole Golly? >I'm a grownup, so I have a tortellone.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Joisey
Seems like Golly is from Queens, actually. Her and Harriet go to Far Rockaway to visit her mother in the show and the book and it's said that's where she's always lived.
5 months ago
Anonymous
right, right. queens.
I mean, same thing. it's like telling a dallas texan from a fort worth texan. It's a bit of a drive, but they are fair to group together.
god, those little houses. reminds me of that show Unsupervised. or in King of the Hill when we saw Enrique's neighborhood.
>But which term do you think Harriet would be more comfortable using anons?
"Journal(s)" as in "Sport and Chuck are going to be writing in her 'journals' when Harriet goes to college"...
I need to see her infiltrate a nudist camp to learn their secrets >Hmm, no pockets for my notebook. This is gonna be tricky.
she'd still have her glasses of course, gotta be undercover.
This sounds more like a writing project situation more than an art prompt. But I get where you come from, it's like the picture of Janie nude behind the bush that I believe Coldfusion made.
I've been reading about the 1968 Columbia University student uprising and I can't help but think about frosh Harriet getting caught up in the middle of all of it
>they don't all have utility belts!!
Look, I know english is hard, but "one thing representing them all" means something iconic to each character, like how Rachel's lolly or hat. I am sure someone could find something even if it's from one part of the canon only.
I know synecdoche is hard, but I meant they don't all have something as iconic and special as a belt, which can be worn while still being naked
Rachel's hat came to mind for me too, but that's about it.
>synecdoche
First of all I meant "english is hard" as blanket statement to my following correction of myself not that you didn't understand it. Since frick it, I'll out myself, I am ESL. I have no idea how you American's say shit sometimes yet you all get so prickish about it.
>but I meant they don't all have something as iconic and special as a belt
Also, Technically Beth Ellen can wear the blue bow that is on the front of her dress around her bare neck, for Janie it's a bit more complicated, maybe borrow Simon's scarf or so, if not their uniforms have a tie but I don't recommend it. Marion had a camera once, but there is always the book. Don't let creativity be choked out my good man. Threads on last couple of post anyway.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Oh. I took it the other way. no worries mate, english IS hard.
I guess naked janie could have uhh test tubes and safety goggles.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>synecdoche
Seems like your search history is coming back up.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Seems like your search history is coming back up.
Huh? What do you mean? Like did I look it up? Yeah I had to figure out what he said, English isn't easy. Or are you saying my computer is displaying it's search history to others, this chan shouldn't be able to do that...
I know synecdoche is hard, but I meant they don't all have something as iconic and special as a belt, which can be worn while still being naked
Rachel's hat came to mind for me too, but that's about it.
The purpose of being naked with the belt on is that she "has work to do", that is the appeal. She is wearing something, but its not actually anything covering her up. Lots of implications can be had
Shoes plus causal nudity is even more lewd than just barefoot, because it implies they are going places with those shoes on. Possible exhibitionism. They had to take those shoes off to get their pants off. The fact they put them back on, means that got work to do.
dammit I drew her barefoot
okay, I'm putting shoes on her, but i'm still showing off what I drew
5 months ago
Anonymous
You can keep her barefoot I'd think. It could be for better stealth even.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Could make an alt for barefoot lovers too
too late
https://files.catbox.moe/0x24bi.jpg
until the next Harriet thread
5 months ago
Anonymous
You even got a good number at the end. See you next thread!
5 months ago
Anonymous
Harriet ready for some smooth nudist spying. As an expert spy she shouldn't get caught anyway so a little nudity is a bonus challenge. Cute stuff anon.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Could make an alt for barefoot lovers too
5 months ago
Anonymous
Oh no the threads gonna go down before picture is going to happen, ah.
Oh. I took it the other way. no worries mate, english IS hard.
I guess naked janie could have uhh test tubes and safety goggles.
I just seen the two !! and was automating myself as "I offended them I better explain" since it's what we do. But I realize I did say that like shit and should have picked different words so I apologize.
I did appreciate the links from a few days ago to the streaming of Harriet the Spy. I want to get more into it since it's really comfy compared to other cartoons of the west.
Has Harriet been on Epstein's Island in the 60s?
okay what is this, and where can I find the rest?
a depressing but exquisitely drawn porn comic
on sad panda
No I ain’t having none of that of a child character , frick off
because it's perfectly okay to molest adults, right? doesn't hurt em one bit.
Sad panda is banned where I am now, may I have the title so I can look for it elsewhere?
Not that Anon but just look up "Harriet the Spy Operation Moonprostitute".
very nice, ty
Okay, I read this, it's Eyes Wide Shut parody, that Kubrick/Tom Cruise movie haha.
You'd think this would be a more popular subject for e-girl artists since the entire Qanon/Epstein/pizzaGate types built their whole world view around elite pedos ruling the world...
I think it being a bit of a downer of a comic and idea keeps the theme from being more popular.
nobody wants to talk or think about that shit but you
somebody keeps posting that comic, so it's not only me 😉
It's probably too close to realism. There's 2D e-girl and then there's actual children being abused and raped on private islands.
No, not yet
totally (radical) spy
AY CARAMBA!
Harriet the flyest.
?t=1
I also wouldn't seeing what Beth Ellen's mother might have looked like (or what kind of character she would be) if she were in the show.
Their moms are cute.
Cinemaphile loves moms
Wouldn't mind some more Rebellen.
100% in-character
Would she charge into the capital?
Is that Harriet or Martha in the box?
A true quantum mechanic conundrum.
Another episode idea of mine:
>Due to a day of spying or attending family events, Harriet misses out on a day of fun with Janie and Sport. She becomes annoyed (and a little excluded) when the two share an inside joke between them, especially when the other students are involved as well (including Marion).
Solid episode idea
Gotta love Harriet the Fly
She is pretty fly.
What was the prompt?
>What was the prompt?
Basically Beth Ellen making a face.
I always forget about that Harriet face always crack me up on how mad she is.
that works for me!
always love to see harriet the fly.
awwww her tiny lil journal
hey. hey. are the pages made of
fly paper?
I see what you did their
I would share a crumb
>lucky sevens
She will take more than a crumb.
ravenous li'l christmas fly.
New Beth Ellen pic from a drawthread.
https://mega.nz/folder/kB83mS4I#tUrVS75sDsUxe-Rxwo5wpQ
😛
>thought the entire series upload was revived
>it's just badly drawn porn
it's on the various tube sites
>badly drawn
I'm still learning.
Not all of it is porn we are trying our best.
yeah i've never drawn -porn- of harriet, just nudies. which is how she should be at least some of the time.
I expected this to be a mega of the episodes
But I'll except this collection of art
>I expected this to be a mega of the episodes
Has there ever been a mega made for this cartoon?
Yes. For a while we had a mega that had both seasons compiled nicely in one mega. But it got hit and it's gone now.
Oh man, that sucks. I think that happened to Pumpkin Reports more than once too. Eh well I am sure it's else where correct?
it's on wcostream and probably kimcartoon
I presume this is in English. That should be fine, thank you really.
it's funny, i was just thinking about how if i wanted to find things in another language, just out of curiosity or something, i would have no idea where to look
like, countrywide? so even a vpn can't get there? shit dude, get out soon
I feel that way, my English is pretty good. But I wasn't raised on it. Sometimes I just want to hear a show done by a different set of sounds and vocalizations. It's just not as easy sometimes unless someone uploads them personally in the other languages.
https://www.wcostream tv/anime/harriet-the-spy
kimcartoon only has s2
ithink isaw my “Kermit and harriet” doodle there two times, can the folder-holder the repeated one
Now that's a classy Harriet.
finished my first rewatch. this show holds up. though the ending still hurts. they're being such dicks and harriet should not have to apologize for shit.
also does it weird anyone out how they went so out of their way to avoid saying 'thanksgiving' and made it a roast chicken instead of turkey, even referencing it as a known tradition?
Yeah, it is rather odd given that Thanksgiving is the most popular holiday of the year in the USA.
and in the 60s they were still riding that whole Norman Rockwell wave, too.
"fall harvest festival" is what schools in the 90s did because well-meaning but utterly misguided christian parents b***hed about the inclusion of halloween. Not thanksgiving. also it still had costumes and candy.
what kind of embarrassing spy adventure shenanigans would harriet get up to
I want to say finding out who created Polybius but that's in the early 1980s tho.
Maybe not embarrassing, but I wouldn't mind an episode where Harriet spies on Beth Ellen being given mysterious boxes from different stores (including from Carlos in his family's deli) while Marion and Rachel aren't around, and Harriet recruits her friends to find out what are in the boxes.
Turns out, Beth Ellen is collecting trading cards (based on "Mars Attacks" cards of the 60s), but not for herself; she's collecting them for another friend's birthday party, and she's doing so in secret so no one would find out (especially from Marion, who looks down on the card set and anyone who collects them).
yes! that kind of shit is cute. it doesn't always have to be panties-adjacent.
Another episode would be a Valentines Day-inspired episode.
If there were a Valentines episode, I'd imagine it'd have Harriet receiving anonymous love letters from a secret admirer, which comes across as very heartfelt (if rather cryptic). So she goes around the school and the city to every boy she knows (namely Sport, Carlos, and Chuck), trying to figure out the identity of her secret admirer, but none of the boys admit to sending those letters (not even Pinky or "Purple Socks").
She then suspects that Marion was the one sending those letters as a cruel prank to waste her time and make her look dumb (especially when one of the letters has her going to the park by the water for a meeting, only for the sender to no-show). Not helped that everyone else seems to have a special someone in their life, but she doesn't; Sport and Janie seem closer than she thought, and even Pinky and Purple Socks suggests that they're more than just best buds.
Finally, Harriet gets another letter for another meeting, promising to stop sending the letters if they no-show again. She goes to the same spot as before, and she sees Beth Ellen by the water. Once more, Harriet thinks this is one of Marion's twisted jokes on her, but Beth Ellen assures her that it's genuine, and she really likes Harriet, confessing that she was the one sending those letters, citing how Harriet's always been super nice to her (much nicer than Marion, anyway).
Really, I'd just want this episode for a gag from Harriet's mother:
>"You know, Harriet, when I was your age, I used to get hundreds of letters from secret admirers. I still get those letters to this day, distressingly enough."
aren't there enough out of place lesbians in cartoons
Something enf related?
that is.. impressively appropriate. this will now be the theme for any harriet rule 34 involving older men.
here's the original Sam The Sham version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FA85RO89HA
Harriet is way cute!!!
I want to hug Harriet and tell her all her secret thoughts are okay to have.
Also I still haven't watched this.
But Harriet and her bullies are cute tho.
you shoullld it's good.
aw, cartwheels.
why post to two different sites?
anon requested another site as he was blocked from catbox
any requests?
anything featuring Harriet and Beth Ellen, lewd or non-lewd I just want to see more art of them.
Awesome work! Always good to see Beth Ellen/Rebellen. Thanx.
If you're taking any more requests, could I request Rebellen rocking out with an electric guitar from the 60s?
Also, have a cute Harriet and Janie pic (could be used as ref for guitar).
cute Jan... so the solution was to just redraw her cute
aw she was always cute
>any requests?
>cute: harriet holding a love letter for chuck (envelope with a heart seal), and aggressively denying that he likes him
>lewd: harriet pegging chuck, who has Xs for eyes because his heart couldnt take it
Harriet having her bare feet tickled and laughing her head off.
Maybe an extension of this?
Actually, I was thinking along the lines of Marion having her pantyhosed feet brushed, and hating the fact she's loving every minute of it.
Rebel Beth Ellen spitting into a shocked Rachel's mouth
it’s a complicated one but:
>harriet and (a redesigned) nick-tan sharing a lollipop like this pic, but with the camera facing the front instead of the back
Can you post the orange haired girl, like the original pic?
You design that? I love it, thats a take on the Nick logo right?
oh there's network-tans for all the kids networks. it's a cute thing people do.
it was a thing for a while
https://channel-tan.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=nickelodeon
god its been 6 years
I still hate how it ended, but I'm glad I got to meet a lot of people during that time
Was a whole booru really needed for this?
I never knew of this network tan thing until recently.
Dude I love your art this design is rad.
I also liked the Pepper Ann I saw above, you draw her on the money like you are really good and cartoon styles.
*at cartoon styles.
/ctg/ were very fun threads but it did start to fizzle over time, when did it stop again? I can't remember if it was raided from outsiders or something like that.
internet's too compartmentalized i reckon
>Was a whole booru really needed for this?
ask not the need, oh newbie zoomer
I'm Gen Y, I just didnt visit co for like, six years.
And yes and I am disappointed how badly this place sucks now.
it's gotten a little better lately
it became unusable when the kung flu started and people started talking about generations nonstop. Cut that out. Have you seen Harriet's show?
(sure) and i redesigned her too, to fit in what nick's brand is like now an'all that
here's an additional pic of her done by the OG channel-tan creator aswell btw:
she's cuter, but lost the distasteful part of her dorkiness
SEXO, but at cost?
Do we know who this artist was?
aipiepo, original channel-tan creator
It feels like forever ago. Summer 2016, I still have the art made in thread from that evening. People drew a lot of CN-tan's ass and Dabble was there. Not to derail from the Harriet thread.
you're in luck, i made a dedicated thread for this:
based thread lecher, only the strong survives
does nick even do anything anymore
not if you aren't in their target demographic
and thx! you'd be surprised what reference images can do to a guy who usually flounders at it
sponge bob reruns and live action sitcoms for kids
does this cartoon have sovl?
the style looks super cute
i might give it a watch
it actually is fantastic
don't want to spoil stuff for you, but.. not only does it not have any dumb modern issue shit (aside from some anachronistic integration), it actually has a racism episode that's.... sane? And actually takes the right tack, about how it's NOT good to throw a fit to get what you want, but just be patient?
it has imitation faux retro soul
it's no Barbar, but pretty chill
every kid cartoon show has a race/discrimination episode, spoiler: racism is bad
I feel like you either missed the point of, or didn't read my post
it's UNlike those, in that it's not only not petulant, but actually says a reee tumblr attitude can only make things worse.
she need an 80's power suit
JoJo-looking ass pose
Ole is cuter. Any Ole reauests?
Ole Golly flirting with Sport or Chuck Infront of Harriet
I don't do shota shit
This is basically the same, but i'll do it
>Harriet: Remember how you accused me of taking over the Fall Harvest play just to get revenge on you?
>Marion: Yes, and I still stand by that assessment.
>Harriet: Well, I think the opposite is true; I think everything YOU do is to get revenge on me and nothing else.
>Marion: Really. Where do you get off accusing others of such a thing, Harriet M. Welsch?
Maybe Ole Golly in her youth? Maybe when she was around Harriet's age?
Teen golly.
>everything about this show looks british
>it isn't
I just don't get it
it was a different time, literally
wait til you learn where americans came from
it is gonna blow your mind
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HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! HARRIET THREAD! also bump
giv request
ok some Sport and Harriet sloppy makeout session
Seconding this
Though personally requesting a chaste kiss between harriet and chuck
boy you lucked out
unless you mean a new, better one
this makes me happy
but if someone wants to make a better one, that will make me happier
What exactly was the reason the other kids started crying when Harriet ate the onion during the trial? Did they feel guilty about Harriet seeing herself as a piece of shit?
Yes, the non-psychopathic response to someone else revealing how miserable they feel and becoming upset is empathy, but I can understand the confusion since we live in current year and almost everyone behaves like a psychopath.
Even Marion, huh?
I imagine a scenario happening: Marion is taking part in a talent show competition, but she's being dressed-down by one of the judges (like a Simon Cowell or a Gordon Ramsey-type critique of sorts), making her cry. Harriet stands up for her, despite their shared animosity.
Maybe afterwards, Marion admits that she feels guilty that if the roles were reverse—if Harriet was the one being so fiercely judged—she wouldn't have stood up for her. In fact, she'd be sitting back and smiling, and she's deeply bothered by that.
especially marion
selfish power-hungry jerk bullies don't think about the feelings of others. when they're forced to, they feel bad about what they've done and how many people they had to manipulate to hurt someone that badly. what they expect is nothing they do will be able to affect anyone at all beyond anger and annoyance.
Marion can be a b***h but she's not entirely without feelings. I think the point is that all the kids can identify with feeling or being made to feel like shit and while they were mad at Harriet, none of them really wanted to make her feel THAT bad.
i do find it interesting that harriet's criticisms (which again were private thoughts not meant for others to see, which they all eventually begrudgingly agreed were accurate yet were still mad) didn't overlap very hard with the highly critical 60s-parents kinda talk they're surely used to getting.
>the highly critical 60s-parents kinda talk they're surely used to getting
Probably would be the case if they were working class kids, but Harriet is set in a private school in New York and all the parents are upper-middle class (with the possible exception of Rachel, who has a very working class NY accent and whose parents we never see, but she's also the most hardened and aggressive so that would still fit). The most common parenting style among the wealthier classes at that time was being distant and dismissive, that's kinda illustrated by the fact Ole Golly listens to Harriet and offers her advice while her parents have no idea what's going on her life and their only idea is to send her to a therapist.
is that right? My dad grew up in a pretty wealthy part of california, his dad made enough rocket scientist money to have a nice house and a pool, but I guess they weren't like upper-crust rich. He sure had a tough upbringing and so did everyone he knew. and my mom, who grew up nearby, who probably would have been wealthy if she didn't have five hungry siblings. All I know is from what they told me, and from some old stuff I read, it could be shockingly rough. And they always tried to raise me differently.
Makes sense though, i suppose east coast richers who hire nannies and shit are probably running the edwardian model. shut the kids up in a nursery, never have to see them.
I'm just going off what I know of social history combined with what the show presents, for sure the parents we see are not very involved or interested in their kids' lives. Harriet's parents were apparently even toned down in that respect from the book to make them more likeable, Golly is really her only parental figure.
Also not very on topic for Cinemaphile but regarding your own experiences I think it's fair to say that class =/= wealth. People born into hereditary wealth and power have different attitudes and values from those born poor, you can gain or lose wealth but you don't lose your culture (ever seen Grey Gardens? That's a trip).
yeah that makes sense. my grandpa had to work real hard. he regretted it later though, didn't blame his wife for leaving him or his kids for feeling distant when he was always working or studying for a new degree.
>you can gain or lose wealth but you don't lose your culture
true I guess
commies shot my landowner gramps, never had money myself, but working class parents made sure I got a classical liberal education
>all the parents are upper-middle class (with the possible exception of Rachel, who has a very working class NY accent and whose parents we never see, but she's also the most hardened and aggressive so that would still fit
Would like to see an episode exploring more of Rachel's family life (or at least gleam over or imply it) and whether her dad is present.
I still have that episode idea where Beth Ellen finds herself on Rachel's list of enemies (I think part of it is that Beth Ellen accidentally ran her mouth off and mentioned Rachel's absent father, which is a particular sore spot for her).
Of course, she does mention a little brother who compares her to the Boogey Man.
god, book harriet was cruel
but she didn't do any of it to people's faces until after they read her secret journal, right?
Yeah, she got her revenge on everyone after her notebook was read out loud and everyone started bullying and harassing her (much like in the show, though the show was much toned done, limiting to only unleashing a frog on everyone).
okay yeah that makes sense
it's okay to write psycho shit if nobody's meant to see it. just how you vent. and honestly life has lots of fricked up shit to notice. I'm surprised there wasn't any kinda lesson in there about "you can observe negative stuff but if that's ALL you observe, something might be unbalanced"
>replied to with my own shitty pic
Fun. Anon, you have no idea how deep my Rachel headcanon runs. I don't know why of all the Harriet girls I latched onto her so hard, she hardly has much of a role but it seems to me like there are a lot of little things that give hints as to what she's like. The book helped as well but that excerpt in the pic is probably the most interesting revelation, she doesn't exactly have a major role there either.
>the brown girl has no father
kept it real
i dunno anon, she looks indian or something. they tend to have good close families. but of course problems can pop up anywhere.
Her race is never clarified so I guess you can headcanon her as whatever you want but
>Rachel Hennessey
doesn't strike me as a very Indian name. I'm inclined towards black/Irish mulatto because big hair and an Irish woman having a half-black child out of wedlock in the '60s would be a pretty good reason her father isn't in her life.
Nice ideas Anon, headcanons are a very personal thing but it's cool that Harriet seems to fire people's imaginations like this. It's a very evocative show, the combination of the period setting and the fact it follows the narrative of a novel helped elevate it above a lot of current stuff.
ah yeah that could be.
gosh it's almost like forcing in diversity is a bad thing that's been clumsily handled.
it's as simple as the mother keeping her name cause the guy left...
they just randomly fired the diversity canon at the cast and turned some kids brown/black anyway... it's been tradition for decades, only recently they went full moron with it (and the "blowback")
it's sort of been tradition, but they didn't do it in such inappropriate places (such as period pieces) beause it wasn't literally being mandated by the network, it was being offered as an olive branch. to people who turned out to have no interest in peace.
You want more Rachel headcanons?
>Rachel and Beth Ellen were friends before they got involved with Marion.
>How they became friends could wither be Rachel defending Beth Ellen from bullies when they were very young, or Beth Ellen approaching the cactus-like Rachel and offering her friendship (maybe even offering a lollipop, which would explain Rachel's fixation on them).
>Since they're best friends, Rachel is much nicer and more patient with Beth Ellen than with anyone else.
>Part of the reason they became friends is the fact they have absent parents (the first book had Rachel's absent father, and the sequel book "The Long Secret" focused on Beth Ellen's mother who had been absent since she was about 4 or 5, and also happens to be a vain and controlling socialite). They also happen to have little siblings.
>Rachel's lack of a father-figure in her life has always been a sore and sensitive spot in her life, hence why she's quite unapproachable.
>Though she often likes to terrorize her little brother, she's more than happy to defend him if every he gets bullied.
Rolling for Beth Ellen or Rachel (A 5 or 6 I assume)
Ya got the brown mutt boy with no eyes, congrats!!
He's kind of cute so I don't think anon will be too disappointed if he rolls with it.
he's adorable though
I want to see him dating the cute tan girl whose mom bakes good pies.
Eh, I'll take it.
You're alright anon. He's kind of cute and could work nicely.
Cutie harriet
>Page 9
Beth has been working out, 0u0
>when you are good at anatomy so your characters end up looking too muscly
I have that problem with Dipper sometimes.
whatta sexy problem
Read a sad Harriet The Spy fanfic called "Moving Day" on ao3 needed a good cry. I listened to the song at the beginning for extra angst.
that's cute, and a cute idea
I miss the old days, when everything was sweet and innocent, every anime had a token e-girl, she might end up naked at some point, there's just jokes, nobody's crying or being abused or accusing others of being criminals, except in the gaggiest of shit. a daughter character could have a crush on her teacher or flirt with a hot policeman that pulls them over or whatever. models could pose in magazines, it didn't have to be nasty all the time. Though of course, BEHIND the scenes, it always was. because hollywood.
she's definitely the one who would want to practice kissing the most
I want to know the origin of Harriet's hoodie. I think she has one in her flashbacks too. All of her flashbacks are cute.
It's a weird one, at first I presumed her hoodie was an anachronism but she's wearing one on the cover of the original book. I don't think I ever saw a hoodie in any photo from the 1960s before and I can't even find any pictures of anyone who isn't an athlete wearing one by image searching. Harriet the trendsetter four decades early.
MARTHA
seems like everyone says it came from 1930's dockworkers... can't seem to find a definite source though, search for hoodie history gets you a lot of liberal apologetics for discrimination cause city nogs wear it, lmao
What's her name Cinemaphile?
...Francine
It's Martha, actually.
I don't like the order these got posted
think she'd wipe her mouf afterward huh?
boy some people, they just hit that button don't they.
>martha
"WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!??!"
take yer pick
Cutesy buttons
oddly plausible
yeah the jeans said a lot back then too, any girl wearing those is like, rough and tumble.
she's the most kawaii one.
whenever I hear adam sandler's "i love my sweatshirt / red hooded sweatshirt" song, i'm gonna think of harriet
>mfw ywn envelope her in a big hug while spinning her around in your arms while hearing her cute little giggles
GOD, WHY IS SHE SO FRICKING CUTE, BROS?!
freckles
big ol eyes
perfectly upturned nose
tiny lil lower face area
guess how I know you're too young to be here
Wish I'd known weird girls like this at school, I would have been their friend and defended them. but I'm pretty much the only one who ever got any shit, that I noticed.
Smelliet.
she is not!!
i mean yeah she probably isn't the MOST fastidious in her bathing, especially without Ole Golly to wrestle her clothes off and dunk her in the tub, but she still does it.
Poor Smelliet. But that's what happens when you wear one sweats day in and out.
Oh wow, this got hit as well. Dang. Hope he didn't get a vacation.
Heck yeah. Very cute stuff anon. Glad to see you around.
Wild, isn't it? I'm not sure if it was just a coincidence or a wave of nonsense but whatever it was, it is. Either way, yes. Very cute onion.
>it's the gang joins the Vietnam War episode...
I don't think this was the kind of spying and info gathering Harriet had in mind. Though it's nice seeing Harriet getting to join Rachel, Beth, and Marion in something.
They only joined up so they could hear classic rock playing in the background constantly.
Janie's going to wipe out Charlie with her patented Agent Beige anyway, so they won't have to spend any time in danger.
>I am in a world of shit, yes. But I am a spy.
Wat
I'm not sure I get it either.
Completely unimpressed.
as painful as this was, what a cozy fricking backyard. i had friends and stepfamily with things like this, but I never have.
Making the Boy With The Purple Socks have bangs that fall over his eyes is a bit of genius by the animators. By covering his eyes, it looks like he's wearing a mask, hiding his face and making him anonymous. In the book, Harriet gave him that name because he was so nondescript that no one really knew anything about him other than the iconic purple socks.
Agreed. It does make him a little more interesting as a character. Like, without his eyes showing, it kinda make you wonder just what he's thinking.
Doesn't hurt he's best buds with Pinky, so there's that dynamic.
Ah.
Good times.
My guesses are Marion and Rachel are on the left, and Janie (who was white in the original book), Pinky, and Beth Ellen are on the right with Sport behind them. Of course, I could wrong wrong.
I actually wouldn't mind seeing show Janie doing the original Janie's "fierce smile".
That Marion is kind of funny looking.
In the last episode of Season 2, I almost wish Harriet would have been initially overjoyed to see her classmates turning on each other based on her words in the notebook, sort of in a "Serves them right!" type deal for stealing her things and invading her privacy, before realizing that this is a terrible mindset and realizing that it's basically her fault for their infighting.
I also wish Beth Ellen better stood up for herself in the Season Finale. Maybe not a big thing, but something like, "Why are you always so terrible to me, Marion?!" or, "Harriet was right. You are a lousy, rotten person, Marion Hawthrone..."
>I almost wish Harriet would have been initially overjoyed to see her classmates turning on each other
That's more or less what happens in the book but with even sketchier morals. Harriet purposely waits until the Spycatcher Club falls apart due to internal divisions and only then does she apologise, because she knows they're divided and weakened enough to accept. Harriet the Art of War.
yeah, that was kind of implied but they didn't acknowledge it. even if she's not feeling spiteful, she should feel vindicated. like clearly she was right, and they can no longer deny it
then her speech could have been more reassuring than apologetic. like seriously who doesn't wanna be in the weirdo circus? what other circus IS there?
kek. love it
i like to think she goes to really good therapists, none of the fricked up 60s ones who ruin lives, but the experimental cool ones like Paul Bindrim.
also Harriet is badass for eating the onion with the fricking skin still on. you tear that part off, man. that's like the banana peel. but she ate it right out of the paper..
Do you think she still goes to her therapist, even after everything turned out alright for her in the end? Maybe talk more about Ole Golly?
>You know we're the only country where the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed in writing? Do you believe that? A bunch of fricking spoiled brats. Where's my happiness then?
>It's the pursuit that's guaranteed.
>Yeah, always a fricking loophole.
I think given how hard-wired Harriet is for obsessively observing, thinking and writing everything down yet doesn't really share those things with anyone else, a therapist is probably a very good idea. She's gonna go crazy keeping all those thoughts inside otherwise.
and honestly, she could be a good one herself someday if the writer thing doesn't pan out.
SO MUCH THIS!
You can PURSUE happiness all you want.
No guarantee WHAT-SO-EVER you'll catch and, if so, how long you'll hold it
Ay, Tone!
>She's gonna go crazy keeping all those thoughts inside otherwise.
That's how she ended up at the therapist, in the book at least. Her parents and teacher initially tried to "fix" her by limiting the amount of time she could spend writing in her notebook, but that backfired horribly. Harriet's mind DEMANDS that she put her thoughts down on paper, and if she isn't allowed to do that, she goes bonkers.
typical parent shit. wish we could get more attention on that kinda nonsensical thinking.
hope that radiator isn't turned on or she's gonna steam her clam.
I thought we were having steamed hams
I want to know why all the anons ITT like Harriet the Spy so much, does anyone want to share their feelings?
Harriet is really really cute!! She has cute behavior and she's kind of a little weirdo. And I relate to her getting in trouble for doing nothing wrong.
>Harriet is really really cute!!
I don't disagree here. The characters look like they would be a good subject to draw but the deleted post really make it a scary idea.
I am not quoting all that but thanks for the detailed list of explanations, I primarily grew curious because some post in here become quite intellectual for a cartoon character who kind of looks like an onion. Also VLC snap file name, so you have the files for the seasons?
Damn, well I would say escapism is bad or post the meme but if Harriet makes you happy than you can keep that. I was just curious plus much older than you would expect.
the people deleting posts are not the same people who ban you. Just don't break any rules. Post catbox links if it's too sassy.
It was just weird to see people delete their post, they look fairly harmless.
>Granted a lot of that is lewd
Eh, it's what the people want. Anything with a fanbase will have lewds, even small communal ones. The world has grown quite hectic, hell Cinemaphile for me has grown hectic which is why I am doing my best to understand threads these days.
>posting links to the megas on Cinemaphile seems to result in them getting deleted. If you can torrent eztv is your friend.
It's always been that way so that's fine, but thanks for confirming that file versions do exist.
>I think we just have nostalgia for childhood.
I wish I could feel that way, but I didn't grow up in North America only moving here later in life. Also TV was kinda different where I came from depending on the household. We were poor. Life does feel like shit sometimes so all I can say is keep your chin up lads.
they aren't deleting their own posts, anon.
>somewhere poor
i saw a fascinating youtube video on what it was like for people my age growing up in mexico, he told us all the tv shows and games they got and how it helped them deal with all the shit that kept happening. We've all been on different rides, but man they have similarities.
>they aren't deleting their own posts, anon.
Well whatever the case, it still weird.
>We've all been on different rides, but man they have similarities.
All humans have their own experiences, which writing for media can and will derive from human experiences even if they were not from the perspective of writing or design staff even. I am glad to hear that people do still empathize because other places online you would see people closing their ideas off more then sharing the stories proper. I would say it might be similar, house full of uncles and aunts under one grandmother, grandfather talking about doing only what he wants and all oldest need to be this in any sibling set, you could either get the ladle, field duty or spend time with the goats and chickens if you misbehaved. It was fun to experience some entertainment even if it was just dubs of older shows just coming out now. A ton of Japanese media to be honest more than American stuff. I am guessing that feeling is what you anons feel for Harriet?
a bit!
and yeah you guys in the poorlands got a lot of good anime, stuff they wouldn't show here, that's why there's so many great latin american webcomic artists
Well thank you for helping me understand. Hopefully more people will come and check out Harriet then if it can invoke such a feeling. May the artist flow into your thread to give you many pictures.
I can't think of anything to draw and haven't for the last like 4 threads
Draw Rachel, Marion, and Beth Ellen in Mai, Azula, and Ty Lee's swimsuits, respectively.
yes, only if they are lezing out
Oh you draw, well maybe draw since it sounds like you are suffering from some burn out. Possibly request being the same every thread or something like that style burn out.
Interesting perspective...but why though
tbf a lot of us do seem to repeat it in case someone actually does pick it up so uh
take 5 and come back when you feel reinvigorated
we'll see how tomorrow goes! If it's still here.
I'm just glad nobody has forgotten Harriet. now if I can get some Cleopatra in Space threads going, I can make up for lost time there too. That period where Cinemaphile was just insufferable, I missed out on a lot of good shows because nobody was telling me they were good.
>Interesting perspective...but why though
it was requested
oh you did it? nice job.
>some post in here become quite intellectual for a cartoon character who kind of looks like an onion
Harriet does seem to fire people's imaginations. Granted a lot of that is lewd (nothing wrong with that as long as you don't post it here, apparently) but the setting, characters and stories are interesting enough to inspire people beyond just the cute designs. Maybe people have a soft spot for nostalgic/retro stuff set in a time the world seemed like a simpler place.
>you have the files for the seasons?
Yes, if you're looking to download the show there are megas and torrents but posting links to the megas on Cinemaphile seems to result in them getting deleted. If you can torrent eztv is your friend.
I think we just have nostalgia for childhood. Usually, the version depicted on TV, which involved lots of socializing and adventure and solvable moral quandries. A lot of us didn't get any of that, and maybe assumed someday it'd be like teens on TV, but didn't get that either. And now life is going "hmm this is empty, but we can make it emptier"
I started rewatching Salute Your Shorts, and for something that's literally about how hilariously miserable their lives are, I just want to BE there. To be Then. At least to be back in the audience, in a time when a kids' show could say 'pissed off' and make jokes about puberty.
>megas
there's.. a way around that. I probably shouldn't say it out loud, but look into it.
>being based on a book means the show is following an already existing narrative rather than being made up as it goes along by different writers with conflicting ideas, the ending was also already written so it wasn't botched or left unfinished
>22 minute episodes allow for relaxed, comfy pacing that doesn't feel rushed
>the stories and characters are mostly grounded in reality
>being set in the 1960s means its idea of being relatable to children is to show universally shared childhood experiences instead of trend chasing and "how do you do fellow kids" references
>pleasing and quite unique aesthetic and colour palette
>cute girls
Nothing against wackier faster paced shows, they can be enjoyable too but Harriet felt like a refreshing change of pace and tone compared to most new cartoons.
yeah we definitely need both. and this kinda thing has been sorely lacking.
she's like me if I was a cute little girl in the 60's with a happy family and a future
so nothing like me
My parents did not have nearly as nice a time when they were... 8 and 12 years younger than her, but this still makes me think about them. They tried to give me a way nicer childhood.
Harriet is obsessed with "learning everything there is to learn about everything". When I was her age, I was the same way.
man that's cool
all I ever wanted to do was watch TV. but in my defense, tv was really, really good when I was a kid. to the point that now all surviving entertainment franchises are based on things I watched.
Apparently, Janie has a brother. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume the brother is older than her.
yeah probably. I feel like we would have seen him tagging along if he was younger, typical little brother behavior. He's probably 16ish and has a job, helping pay Janie's tuition.
What does Janie look like if her hair is down (not tied up in that little ponytail)?
hm, her bangs are pretty chunky, but the ponytail is still wavy enough that I think it would flare out on the sides
Post Harriet's teeth
her teeth are cute as shit
i'[m surprised a late bloomer like her was already losing her last baby tooth early in her 12th year. though it is a premolar. but I was still losing molars by that age.
*wiggle* *wiggle*
cute tongue n uvula
Cute maw.
>*BAM BAM BAM*
>"AYO SOMEBODY SHITTIN IN HERE"
>*aggressively rattles stall door*
Harriet has really cute knees
Someone just train a Harriet ai model, then we can let the thread die in peace.
good morning, sir.
Maybe Jaine is kind of cute.
she is cute in her own way!
she doesn't feel like a scientist though. more like a mythbuster.
Yeah, she can have her charms. Just hard to be noticed when she has to compete with Harriet and Marion along with her cronies.
and beth ellen! and beth ellen's seester.
(1/?)
The Beth Ellen on Rachel's enemies list idea:
>Harriet and her friends find mysterious notes in their lockers, asking them to meet up in an empty classroom, signed by "BEH".
>Turns out, it was Beth Ellen Hansen who wrote those notes to them.
>She's in a panic; she just found out she got on Rachel Hennessey's "The List" (her list of enemies she'll get revenge on), and she blames herself for her stupidity.
>Beth Ellen explains that on her way to school with Marion and Rachel, Rachel was in a particularly foul mood that day—the worst she had ever been. Wanting to cheer up her best friend, Beth Ellen decided to do little favors for Rachel (like getting her favorite lunch or carrying her stuff), but these attempts backfire in particularly disastrous ways (like Beth Ellen slipping on a banana peel and dropping the food on Rachel's head, or dropping all her things and scattering it everywhere).
>What really seals the deal is when Beth Ellen accidently shoots her mouth off and mentions Rachel's father (who had left her and her family when she was very young, and is a sore spot to her), which makes Rachel even more angry at her. With this mistake, Beth Ellen finds her name in Rachel's list.
>Harriet and her friends agree to help Beth Ellen get her name removed from the list, much to her surprise and delight.
(2/?)
>Sport is first to suggest that Beth Ellen wait for when Rachel's in a good mood to ask for her name to be removed (he believes Rachel only added it because she was in a bad mood that day). Beth Ellen waits for Rachel to be in a good mood to ask, but these attempts end up backfiring (getting results of an important test back, only to flunk it, or finding out they're out of her favorite dessert for lunch), making her mood worse.
>Janie is second to suggest Beth Ellen do really grand favors for Rachel to earn her favor (like buying the most expensive lollipops she can buy, or giving her massages), but these attempts backfire, too, making Rachel feel uncomfortable (not helped that Beth Ellen is forced to give Marion a foot massage afterwards).
>Harriet is third to suggest they take matters into their own hands; they'll need to remove Beth Ellen's name from the list themselves.
>Gym class is the only time Rachel won't have her list on her person, so the group devise a plan: while Janie and Sport run interference, Harriet and Beth Ellen will break into Rachel's locker and change her list.
>While Janie and Sport keep Rachel busy, Harriet and Beth Ellen sneak to her locker, where they find a snag in their plan: Rachel's locker is locked, and Beth Ellen doesn't remember the 4-digit combination (she does recall it starting with a 19, though, indicating it may be a year). Harriet gets to work going through each and every combination from 1900-1999.
(3/?)
>Janie and Sport continue to try and distract Rachel, though it becomes more and more challenging when she starts losing her patience.
>While Harriet goes through the lock combinations, she asks Beth Ellen why she's so worried about being on the list; she's best friends with Rachel, and what's the worst that can happen? Beth Ellen explains being on the list at all means Rachel would do something horrible to her, like giving her an atomic wedgie, dumping buckets of paint on her during an important event, or just humiliating herself. But worst of all, Rachel may just end her friendship with Beth Ellen, which is far worse than any cruel prank.
>Harriet comforts Beth Ellen, saying that no matter what happens, Beth Ellen's friendship with Rachel will survive, but even if it doesn't, she can still be friends with Harriet and her friends.
>Harriet then asks how Beth Ellen became friends with Rachel. Beth Ellen recounts that time she was very young, when she was saved by Rachel from a bunch of bullies. Beth Ellen thanked her, offering a lollipop in friendship, and the two have been together ever since. They latter befriended Marion in the 3rd grade, and she became their leader since.
>Beth Ellen suddenly remembers! 1956! That was the year she and Rachel became friends! That's the locker combination!
>Harriet puts in the combination, and it opens. Open Sesame!
(4/?)
>Harriet and Beth Ellen find "The List" (confirming that Beth Ellen's name is indeed on the list), but they need to erase other names as well so that Rachel doesn't automatically assume it was Beth Ellen who did it.
>And not a moment too soon, as Rachel has had enough of Janie and Sport's shenanigans and marches to her locker. Harriet and Beth Ellen finish their scheme just in time, and Rachel is none-the-wiser.
>Later, Beth Ellen thanks Harriet and her friends for their help, feeling a tremendous weight lifting from her shoulders. She's like to be friends with the trio, regardless if Marion approves or not.
>Beth Ellen meets up Rachel later, who is furious that someone broke into her locker and changed her list. Though Beth Ellen tries to play dumb, Rachel knows it was her who did it—she's not dumb—and she merely rewrote Beth Ellen's name in permanent marker, much to her horror.
>Beth Ellen is panicking. Harriet and her friends only made things worse for her, and now she believes that Rachel is out to get her. This made all the worse when she accidently slips on some wet floor, confirming her suspicions and sending her into a shrieking panic before fainting.
>Harriet and her friends take her to the nurse's office, who then sends her home to recover.
(5/5)
>Rachel and Marion confront Harriet and her friends, apparently unaware of Beth Ellen's little episode. They demand to know where Beth Ellen is.
>The trio explains that they only trying to help out Beth Ellen for the little mistake she made. And now she believes Rachel's out to get her, causing her faint spell.
>This makes Rachel deeply concerned. What did she do?
>They all go to Beth Ellen's house, and they find her trying to pack her things; she going to run away to avoid Rachel's wrath.
>Beth Ellen tearfully pleads for Rachel's forgiveness, accusing herself of being such a horrid friend for everything she had done. Rachel is the one who calls herself that horrid friend for causing Beth Ellen so much grief in the first place.
>The reason she was in such a bad mood in the first place was because of a heated argument she had with her mother that day, and Beth Ellen paid the price when all she did was try to cheer her up.
>Rachel removes Beth Ellen's name from the list, and the two reconcile.
>Rachel then says she's writing Harriet and her friends' names in permanent marker, but they don't mind.
>Episode concludes with Harriet recapping that Beth Ellen and Rachel's relationship is stronger than ever, but Beth Ellen is still good friends with the trip on the side.
End
>Harriet thinks you can solve a name being on an enemy list by just erasing it, as if nothing that isn't written down is remembered
>thinks she can just brute force a locker combo in the time it takes for a shower to finish
i love it, very in-character.
eyy this is a good plot wave here.
okay i'm not sure if the plan to erase multiple names actually makes this smarter or dumber
>Sport's
wait what's he doing in the girls' locker room. Ohh this is the regular lockers, outside. Aw man, I wanted a locker room plot. with towels and such. I figured she would have the list on her any other time.
Cute! very good story outline, anon. I'd watch the frick out of this episode.
Something public domain
sorry I just can't stop laughing at BEH!
guarantee Sport is like "Beh? Who's Beh? is that like Beth misspelled? is this Beth Ellen Han- oh..."
Thank you! Yeah, I wanted the trio to question what "BEH" means before realizing together that it's Beth Ellen Hansen.
>i love it, very in-character.
Yeah, Harriet can be very smart, but super dumb when trying to plan ahead.
>eyy this is a good plot wave here.
That part where Beth Ellen expresses her doubts and fears, and explains her backstory about herself and Rachel? Thanks.
>okay i'm not sure if the plan to erase multiple names actually makes this smarter or dumber
It probably makes more sense in Harriet and Beth Ellen's heads. Again, Harriet's not so good with planning ahead.
>wait what's he doing in the girls' locker room. Ohh this is the regular lockers, outside. Aw man, I wanted a locker room plot. with towels and such. I figured she would have the list on her any other time.
No, Janie and Sport are in the main gym room distracting Rachel (probably keeping her busy with the rope climb activity and making themselves look foolish), while Harriet and Beth Ellen are in the Girls Locker room, trying to break into Rachel's gym locker. Does the school even have locker rooms, though? I wonder...
>Cute! very good story outline, anon. I'd watch the frick out of this episode.
Thank you!
>the backstory
that and the sudden realization. There's nothing as dumb and hilarious as a completely random revelation that solves things, so a proper thought-out one is satisfying.
>does the school even
I'm not sure about private schools, but I think in the 60s they were all about that. Get everybody nekkid, hand out swimsuits to half of them. deal with it.
Kinda like a Chekov's Gun.
What's she doing?
Harriet? Playing Town and trying to convince Ole Golly to stay.
Playing with a shoe and a bell.
the intro gets me so pumped every time
i wonder how Harriet handled JFK getting shot
"Purple Socks" does in fact have eyes, if anyone was wondering.
cursed. put them back.
Anymore cursed than this?
nah that's cute. I'd kiss this harriet.
It's a cute Harriet.
mating press
Then why does he(?) keep hiding them?
It does make him stand out as a character.
Speaking of which, the boy with the small face is very amusing to me because of how small his face is when compared to the rest of his head. Unless he already has a name, I've christened him "Russell, the Boy with the Small Face" or "Small Face".
>yet another Pamela Adlon impression voice
>"It's pronounced smal-fah-chay!"
it looks cool
Harriet probably thinks about this kind of thing a lot, in bed. And gets confusing feelings.
butt
I love harriet's accessories, and I wish they showed up more in the show and weren't so hard to add to a drawing
It certainly would be cool to see them show up in more of her fan art. Good luck anon. It's a labor of love working them into pieces.
https://files.catbox.moe/tlz6n4.jpg
Now that's one nice spy bum. Cute stuff anon.
old post
making a new butt pic
>harriet gets a hold of some WW2-era C-rations
>cant wait to be like a real spy and eat them using her handy dandy porta-utensils
>its disgusting
>WW2-era
They'd still be edible in the 60s. As edible as they could ever be considered.
I'm sure that's what anon meant
that shit was infamously bad back then. actually as late as the 80s, my dad still called his Meals Ready to Excrete.
they're only now good
>as late as the 80s, my dad still called his Meals Ready to Excrete.
>they're only now good
The same ones? 40 years of ageing improved them?
i mean it's all meant to be perpetually shelf-stable food, the kind that only loses a little quality after like 5 years but remains edible. What i meant was that they have started making a lot better tasting ones. these days they basically get normal food. you get like, ravioli, curry, sausage and potato egg scramble, normal chow. no more shit on a shingle.
I love how one of the tourists is Wonder Boy and/or Professor Nimnul.
Fully equipped Harriet.
GERMANS!
>Takes place in the 60s, only 2 decades after the war
Oh no...
What are you suggesting?
dingus
it's cool they are Soviet spies just pretending to be German
Digging Rachel's air of confidence.
What would Harriet have said about her classmates if she had time in the first episode?
>This is my best friend, Janie Gibbs. I've known her since kindergarten and can tell you she's getting weirder every year.
>Simon "Sport" Rocque is my other best friend. In a funny way, he's getting more normal every year.
>Ugh... Marion Hawthorne, the richest and most popular student at Gregory School. She's also a mean and rotten person who Janie and I will someday get revenge on.
>That's Rachel Hennessey, the muscle of Marion's little group. Whenever Marion needs or wants something she can't get herself, she sends in Rachel to do her dirty work.
>Beth Ellen Hansen, another friend of Marion and Rachel's. Unlike the two of them, she's actually really nice and I like her, but she's really shy and a total suck-up for Marion's approval.
>Those two boys over there are Pinky Whitehead and the Boy with the Purple Socks. I swear, I don't think I've ever seen those two apart from each other—like two peas in a pod.
>Finally, there's Carrie Andrews. She's friendly enough, though I gotta say, she can be a bit of an oddball at times.
Recently decided to give an opportunity to watch this series and its surprisingly good! And very chill similar to shows like Hilda and Elinor.
Wonder when we'll get a s3 announcement? Unless they're preparing to make a movie to finish the main plot and therefore the show.
>Wonder when we'll get a s3 announcement?
>"Girl from Ipanema" starts playing
Tall and tan and young and lovely?
i suppose that's more for Rachel
come on gust of wind..
Man, cartoons don't get that kind of service anymore.
It's impossibly rare now a days.
It was so common in the 80s too, cartoons were built different. It was for gags and laughs sure. But I was exploring the era for some time now and just noticed that no matter the market target audience we could flash underwear and it was fine. Times sure did change a lot.
just gotta change em right back
So true, If I had more time I would do a Beth Ellen upskirt from the wind. Making free time is such a pain in the ass.
She didn't like that.
I am sure it's been done already if not far worse, plus I really haven't the time so you don't need to fret.
No Breeze of Doom.
I wanna touch her skirt
I like to think part of the reason Janie and Sport got so mad at Harriet for the things she wrote in her notebook is because they were mad at themselves for realizing she was correct.
For Janie, there may be times she may think she's not as smart as she likes to think she is, but rather than admit to that fact, she turned her anger towards Harriet for pointing that out.
As for Sport, he's probably jealous at Harriet and Janie for being able to live relatively normal lives with normal worries, while he has to take care of his deadbeat father and worry if they'll have enough money to put food on the table or have a roof over their heads.
yeah unlike the rest at the trial, they didn't seem the least bit surprised to have the truth of their foibles pointed out. What's more, Harriet got -Janie- to admit she was right about -Sport.-
If there had been more time, I think we would have seen everyone tearing each other apart more.
I do wonder what the hell the parents and teachers thought of Harriet hijacking the not-thanksgiving play though. I mean from a story standpoint, it's a thing. but in real life, in school (at least 90s public school like I experienced) everything is rigidly regimented, deviating is not allowed, especially when there's an audience of people who came here to see a specific thing. Even my clueless ass knew not to try to make big scenes and make them about me, during someone else's thing.
Season 3 when?
I don't want them to run it into the ground, her story is done. she's recommitted to spying and all the conflicts are resolved.
quick, give me candidates for another good story this same group could adapt.
The sequel books sound like they’d make for quite interesting adaptations (one seeing Beth Ellen & Harriet on summer break away from the city dealing with puberty, the reappearance of Beth Ellen’s absent mother and vapid rich people, the other seeing Sport inherit a fortune which his absent mother shows up and tries to get her hands on - I get the feeling Fitzhugh didn’t have a great relationship with her mother) but they’d be fairly big departures from this show’s formula.
I’m struggling to think of other kids’ books that would make for good animated shows, I think most of the books I read as a kid (Roald Dahl, Moomins, Tolkien, can’t really think of anything else that stuck with me) already have screen adaptations of some kind.
Yeah all the obvious ones have been done, that's kinda what makes this show so great. all it's had is a movie, which was fine, but it was kind of a blank slate in people's minds so they could do their own thing with it.
I've mentioned it before, but a few books stand out to me like Onion Joe and Maniac Magee, which had a similar kind of down home interesting real-kid-life flavor to them.
>The sequel books sound like they’d make for quite interesting adaptations (one seeing Beth Ellen & Harriet on summer break away from the city dealing with puberty, the reappearance of Beth Ellen’s absent mother and vapid rich people, the other seeing Sport inherit a fortune which his absent mother shows up and tries to get her hands on - I get the feeling Fitzhugh didn’t have a great relationship with her mother) but they’d be fairly big departures from this show’s formula.
Of course, the show doesn't have to do a 1:1 adaptation of the sequel books, much like how the show took certain liberties with the source material (though the story beats stayed mostly true to the book).
If, for example, they did an episode or few of "The Long Secret" (the sequel book focusing on Beth Ellen and her issues dealing with her mom), what would stay and what would go? If we just focus on the mother for a moment, she was a vain and controlling person who wanted to mold Beth Ellen into a reflection of her—someone who wanted to get rich, but didn't want to put the effort into anything. In the end, she wanted to take Beth Ellen away to Europe, but she stood up to her mother and told her to frick off.
Would the mother still be the vain and controlling woman she was in the book, or would she get some kind of change, or maybe a redemption and decides to change for her daughter's/daughters' sake?
I think the fact the central story is one of Beth Ellen going from having an idealised version of her mother as the sort of woman she wants to grow into, to having the veil lifted and realising how toxic she is and rejecting her mother’s values (or lack of) would probably make The Long Secret a hard sell as a kids’ show. The moral that you aren’t doomed to become like your parents and can choose to go your own way, while it’s a good one, I think would still be sufficiently controversial among parents that nobody would touch it (especially in current year where malevolent mother figures are considered a harmful trope, even if they do really exist) but tacking on a happy ending where her mother changes instead would change the intended moral completely. The point is that Beth Ellen realises she can choose a different path, not that her mother does.
That is a very good point, although they did do an episode that tackled racism (a songwriter not getting credit for the songs he wrote). I can't imagine an episode featuring a bad parent and a kid try to avoid becoming like them being totally impossible.
What would they change with Beth Ellen's mother if she did show up, though? The show has occasionally deviated from the source material with their characters. For example, in the book, Mrs. Plumber, iirc, was a socialite who wanted to stay in bed all day out of sheer laziness (could be wrong). In the show, she stayed in bed out of fear and anxiety her latest business venture wouldn't be a success.
Also, with Mrs. Galliano (Ole Golly's mother), who in the book was a senile old woman who did nothing with her life, and may have had dementia. In the show, she was much more active and jolly and sharp-minded.
What would/should Beth Ellen's mother look like in the show?
The other kids bear some resemblance to their mothers, but how much/little would Beth Ellen's mother look like her? Would she still have a little beauty mark on her face, and if so, where?
Well there is this illustration of Beth Ellen's mother and her boyfriend from the book, as well as the following description:
>Harriet looked her over carefully. To say that she was a beautiful woman would be an understatement. There was an extraordinary glow to her tan face; her thin body, like the body of a dancer, moved with amazing grace. Well, thought Harriet, I’ve never seen a mother look like that. I’ve never even seen any kind of woman look like that.
I think her appearance is very much intended to make Beth Ellen feel inadequate by comparison. That's even spelled out a couple of paragraphs later:
>Oh, God, thought Beth Ellen, why couldn’t she have been fat and wearing a flowered dress?
That is a fair point. Of course, this is what Beth Ellen looked like in the same book.
>I came here to laugh at you
Pretty cool translation into the show style, I like it.
Surprisingly cool look.
Probably never. But it took about a year from the first season ending to the second releasing early 2023 so if there is a third season in the works, maybe later this year or early next year? I mean there are other books for them to adapt, or they could always go the route of original material, but both routes are sort of questionable for their own reasons.
I think they'd get along.
I can't help but see Vee here.
How was this show anyway? I've seen threads for it pop up and around but never really jumped in. Seemed cute from the shots around.
Uh its fricking great?
ugly
it's not great, but by modern standards i can't complain
I do like the idea of the story taking a shift and talking about puberty junk
but the stakes are never going to be this high again, so anything further would be a letdown. Harriet's had her life's biggest moments. It could only work as a kinda... reunion special / movie kinda thing. Which could only feel right if this show became a household name.
you beat me to it
i didn't feel up to it anyway. nicely done!
Thank you! Nice work, better than what I work shopped.
>rick and morty face
Cute Beth Ellen there anon. The post is a classic and I like the goofy Harriet. Can't wait to see the very detail and extensive entry in her journal Harriet is going to make after this experience. That and her then many many attempts at recreating the same shot with Beth and other girls for her record.
Anon, what the frick, man?!
based dA diaper degenerates, no show is too obscure
That is a good Beth Ellen upskirt outline. Admittedly, I do like the joke of her wearing something unexpectedly bold, but soft and more modest like this fits her well.
Now we just need a Marilyn Monroe-style parody shot of Beth Ellen holding her dress down while standing on top of a grate, while hot air pushes her dress up.
This is what it should be, something plain jane but at the time. This is what I was going for before I quit, good on ya for getting it done. Just editing of the skirt since I don't really have artistic talent or merit.
Could be really funny, maybe some comments from the peanut gallery of kids too.
Looks more like a real diaper than the cropped diaper Harriet image.
Diapers are superb for stake-out operations
It's close enough, it's like them older style panty shots where they round off the bottom more than cling to form in complex ways. Harriet's expression is what gets me though, good work on that. I am just glad people attempted this concept.
the love for this spy brings a tear to my eye
Is Harriet a fricking carpet eating dyke like her author?
Pink with frills, now you're speaking my language
Thank you, this is a great picture.
I might not have seen much Harriet or read any of the books. but when I see good character design I will always nod my head and love them. This show has so many well done characters too. Man I really wish I had a Harriet sipping a coffee picture for this.
Harriet the Cry(baby)
plausible all the way
what's sad is it's not a hard fetish to understand. the power dynamics, helplessness, intimacy of being cleaned and cared for. These people have been through the wringer, and just want to go back. I mean we all do, but most of us want to go back to high school. maybe middle school.
lil peek on the side there. which is accurate to how those work sometimes. good job.
>mirrored drawing
Hack.
is God a hack? He made most of us that way. and the starfish, he put a kaleidoscope filter on it
hey you. cut it out.
Harriet the Femme Fatale
Once more, Rebellen is being a b***h to someone.
What brazen harlotry!
These are always good! Rebellen art increasing
>making a new butt pic
No fooling!
you guys are all so great
You even included all the tools like was discussed, you are the best!
Skirt Harriet is a neat idea that I don't think I've seen before. And getting to keep all her cool spgy gadgets is a fun touch. Nice work anon.
is that her school skirt?
Oh right. They wear a skirt for their school uniform. It may be. Though that one is looking shorter than the usual skirt.
How would Harriet react to all of us loving her so much?
very sus
then she'd try to use us for her advantage
Recruit us as additional spies whom she has spy on everyone while she isn't there to spy
oooh spy network! we'll ALL learn everything and be great writers!
Dibs on Marion
>be great writers!
more knowledge rarely makes you better writers
Knowledge of how to write well does. You’re not going to write anything very compelling if you don’t have any knowledge of the things you’re writing about, either.
well there's good and there's good, see..
writing talent is built in, and writing skill is about how hard you've studied literature and how to write
but writing QUALITY.... it relies on a ton of other things. Mine suffers because I have no life experience, and know nothing except other fiction. and even that, I've only recently started getting into themes, arcs, etc from reviews on youtube. when you know about life, certain things are a lot easier to write about.
Great thread, you guys.
That is NOT a cucumber sandwhich
You might have confused her with Hilda.
Not every girl can be Hilda.
Correct. It's a tomato and mayonnaise sandwich. One of many.
Does she salt the Tomato or does she go unsalted?
Just tomato, mayonnaise and white bread. And people complain there are no white people in cartoons any more.
I don't know how she can eat so much mayo. Or any mayo. Her one flaw.
you haven't had good mayo. get some Burman's from ALDI.
raw tomatoes aren't that acidic.. i dunno. i like campari tomates. they are good even without salt.
I think people, especially upper classy ones, used to just eat different stuff. less filling stuff.
kek, you are either very young or have blotted out old memories. old food was fricking lousy, and all that shit about "appealing but bad tasting" red-delicious-apple shit was WAY more prevalent back then.
>very young or have blotted out old memories
Neither. I wasn't alive in the 60s and today's tomatoes are bland. I was just supposing that maybe they tasted better.
I meant even in the 90s you had to remember how inferior the food was.
tomatoes have always been bland because they ship them out green (so they're firm enough not to squish) and then fast-ripen them with ethylene (equivalent to taking an underripe fruit home and putting it in a bag with a banana). So they don't develop complex flavors. Have a campari, I think you'll be happier. But yeah garden-grown ones are always the best, if you can keep them from shriveling or bursting or being devoured by everything in sight.
the 60s was still kind of in the post war period, there was an obsession with prepackaged foods, and they hadn't really gotten them quite right yet. Now that said, over time, a lot of it became quite tasty. For every gross old can of cream of something soup, you had good developments like chef boyardee, whose old recipe is demonstrably better than the new (they brought it back recently as 'throwback' and they took it away for covid because we liked it too much)
these things do ebb and flow though. I can think of a dozen canned products vastly superior to what they have now, which were taken away.
but producewise, yeah this was smack in the middle of the "whatever, if it ships well, people want it" era. because supermarkets had become the thing, no longer mainly local markets. It wasn't til the 80s that people finally started ditching shit like red delicious apples, to the point that, by the 90s, Clinton had to bail out washington's apple industry.
>raw tomatoes aren't that acidic..
Depends on your palate and any ongoing medical conditions one might or might not have. There are people out there that taste a spectrum of stuff that is beyond it but are super picky because of it. And people who don't taste a damn thing off about something and eat rotten product. All humans are different than the next one you encounter.
true. and twice as many are faking it.
>4 slices for one sandwich
She really likes her acids high. Also unsalte tomato so I would assume it's of a breed of tomato with a more naturally sweet taste otherwise the mayo being egg isn't doing much for her. I wonder if this is just a quirky thing or a thing more popularized because the time period it takes place in.
The tomatoes in the 60s probably tasted better than the crap he have now. The big red ones at the super market have been bred to LOOK appealing, but have minimal flavor. It's literally style over substance.
>Just tomato, mayonnaise and white bread
Utterly GROSS!!
>Cinemaphile - Comics & Tomatoes
to be a good nerd, you have to know everything
and to know everything, you have to sit at your computer for hours, following one subject to the next, ablorbing tons of useless information and piecing together an understanding of reality.
Finally, right?
Very nice!
Did you mean to shade in her pouch?
shh you saw nothing
Janie slowly tricking Harriet into exploring herself by comparing parts to tomatoes. What a cunning plan.
what did girls call their best areas in the 60s. i feel like that is not very well documented.
Asking the hard hitting questions, supposedly according to fairly not reliable sources the list for girl's delicates of the 1960s is as follows: Fur Burger, Bearded Clam, Growler, Muffin, Sausage Grinder. There was a website for this but it's gone now and the web archive versions don't seem to be working. Here is a piece of the list but it was way more.
Super Cute!
>Fur Burger
>Muffin
These words sounds like something Beth Ellen would definitely say because saying the actual terms would have embarrassed her for being too lewd and I love it!
Also
>Sausage Grinder
Should have been
>Organ Grinder
Would have been a lot more clever and innocent like!
>Beth Ellen's Muffin
This has potential, for another funny picture.
Oh! You probably would be right about that.
Ah, now this is true art. Thank you friend.
what was it, it's gone!!
It was a secret Harriet photo, only for spy eyes.
It was
but with a shading mistake. Which would have been obvious if you had just followed the replies.
Well we are running out of thread, and it's been an eventful one. Unless an artist wants to come back with some fresh art of Harriet squeezing her tomatoes then discussion of Tomato based sandwiches it is.
>some fresh art of Harriet squeezing her tomatoes
Incredibly cute!
yeah she is!
why must all the best parts of the internet disappear
>mutton-flaps
>foregut
>Einstein
>saltfish
>gazookas
this is amazing and a half, anon.
I remember that "poes", "gaff" and "gully" was on this list above the 60s decade too, but I was surprised when the site has been down since 2020 or so. Strangely enough, most terms for breast have not changed like this and people back then were still calling them hooters and sweater puppies and such.
ah yes
i think it's because moms pass those terms down without blushing too much
Reminds me of the whole "Buffing your muffing" joke from an older piece of media that came out in the early 70s. But which term do you think Harriet would be more comfortable using anons?
Whatever Golly would tell her it's called
And as a Joisey Italian, she would probably call it her tortellino
>Have you got one of those too, Ole Golly?
>I'm a grownup, so I have a tortellone.
>Joisey
Seems like Golly is from Queens, actually. Her and Harriet go to Far Rockaway to visit her mother in the show and the book and it's said that's where she's always lived.
right, right. queens.
I mean, same thing. it's like telling a dallas texan from a fort worth texan. It's a bit of a drive, but they are fair to group together.
god, those little houses. reminds me of that show Unsupervised. or in King of the Hill when we saw Enrique's neighborhood.
>But which term do you think Harriet would be more comfortable using anons?
"Journal(s)" as in "Sport and Chuck are going to be writing in her 'journals' when Harriet goes to college"...
Impossibly cute Spy.
I need to see her infiltrate a nudist camp to learn their secrets
>Hmm, no pockets for my notebook. This is gonna be tricky.
she'd still have her glasses of course, gotta be undercover.
This sounds more like a writing project situation more than an art prompt. But I get where you come from, it's like the picture of Janie nude behind the bush that I believe Coldfusion made.
exactly
I have heard of spies having rapier wit but I don't think this is what they meant.
What a sharp Harriet there.
I've been reading about the 1968 Columbia University student uprising and I can't help but think about frosh Harriet getting caught up in the middle of all of it
Late in the thread but I will toss it out there
Harriet nude, only wearing her tool-belt and shoes.
Why stop at just Harriet, might as well be a line up of all the girls with one thing representing them all on them.
they don't all have utility belts!!
>they don't all have utility belts!!
Look, I know english is hard, but "one thing representing them all" means something iconic to each character, like how Rachel's lolly or hat. I am sure someone could find something even if it's from one part of the canon only.
I know synecdoche is hard, but I meant they don't all have something as iconic and special as a belt, which can be worn while still being naked
Rachel's hat came to mind for me too, but that's about it.
>synecdoche
First of all I meant "english is hard" as blanket statement to my following correction of myself not that you didn't understand it. Since frick it, I'll out myself, I am ESL. I have no idea how you American's say shit sometimes yet you all get so prickish about it.
>but I meant they don't all have something as iconic and special as a belt
Also, Technically Beth Ellen can wear the blue bow that is on the front of her dress around her bare neck, for Janie it's a bit more complicated, maybe borrow Simon's scarf or so, if not their uniforms have a tie but I don't recommend it. Marion had a camera once, but there is always the book. Don't let creativity be choked out my good man. Threads on last couple of post anyway.
Oh. I took it the other way. no worries mate, english IS hard.
I guess naked janie could have uhh test tubes and safety goggles.
>synecdoche
Seems like your search history is coming back up.
>Seems like your search history is coming back up.
Huh? What do you mean? Like did I look it up? Yeah I had to figure out what he said, English isn't easy. Or are you saying my computer is displaying it's search history to others, this chan shouldn't be able to do that...
The purpose of being naked with the belt on is that she "has work to do", that is the appeal. She is wearing something, but its not actually anything covering her up. Lots of implications can be had
Shoes plus causal nudity is even more lewd than just barefoot, because it implies they are going places with those shoes on. Possible exhibitionism. They had to take those shoes off to get their pants off. The fact they put them back on, means that got work to do.
dammit I drew her barefoot
okay, I'm putting shoes on her, but i'm still showing off what I drew
You can keep her barefoot I'd think. It could be for better stealth even.
too late
https://files.catbox.moe/0x24bi.jpg
until the next Harriet thread
You even got a good number at the end. See you next thread!
Harriet ready for some smooth nudist spying. As an expert spy she shouldn't get caught anyway so a little nudity is a bonus challenge. Cute stuff anon.
Could make an alt for barefoot lovers too
Oh no the threads gonna go down before picture is going to happen, ah.
I just seen the two !! and was automating myself as "I offended them I better explain" since it's what we do. But I realize I did say that like shit and should have picked different words so I apologize.
I did appreciate the links from a few days ago to the streaming of Harriet the Spy. I want to get more into it since it's really comfy compared to other cartoons of the west.
just posting this to use later
interesting, it's missing the buckle