Has any decision in the MCU been as universally derided as changing Kamala's powers?

Has any decision in the MCU been as universally derided as changing Kamala's powers?

Even normies didn't like it. The fullest throated defense of it I've seen is "It's fine."

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, not letting us see Thanos' bussy.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You couldn't handle it

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's Marvel's fault for changing them but people are just using it as an excuse to bash the show because it features a minority

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No the people doing that are saying it feels like a tween show, when all Marvel shows are basically tween level shows.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I want to impregnate Kamala with my brown seed

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    stretchy powers always look like shit in live action tho; it only works for characters who are meant to be creepy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this, even if the cgi is 'perfect' it doesn't work; bodies aren't supposed to stretch and grow so it always looks stupid in live action. the powers they gave her are fine.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this, even if the cgi is 'perfect' it doesn't work; bodies aren't supposed to stretch and grow so it always looks stupid in live action. the powers they gave her are fine.

      So wtf are they gonna do for Mr. Fantastic? They gonna make him Lean Lantern too?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nah they could change it with Ms Marvel because she's new, but Mr. Fantastic's always gonna stretch. It's just going to look bad like it always does.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Mr. Fantastic at least has being a super genius to fall back on, so they can just have him stand around building gadgets and strategizing instead of fighting.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Did you see Doctor Strange 2? He was no genius.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, I know that version wasn't, I was speaking in general. And even then, 90% of his screen time in that film was talking strategy and schematics. And we got a much more clear view of his teleporter than we did his stretching.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The dumbest part of that movie was sending the whole team to fight Scarlet Witch except for the only one that actually knew magic. What did they think was going to happen, she wouldn't be able to stop a stretchy man or a shield?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She looked good in the Avengers game and that was MCU style.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        But that's not live action. It looks fine in fully CG environments, same with cartoons and the comics themselves, but watching a live action, human person start to stretch and grow always looks bad. Unlike most other super powers, there's no way to make it look realistic because it's physically impossible.
        It's the same reason speedsters always look bad in live action, and why the slow-mo scene has become the norm for them. Watching a real person's arms and legs move that fast just looks silly in a way it doesn't in cartoons or CG.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      As a fan if stretching I hate to admit you’re right. The only instance of it being used in live action and not looking like total shit was that movie Legion but it was meant to be gross and uncomfortable.

      [...]
      So wtf are they gonna do for Mr. Fantastic? They gonna make him Lean Lantern too?

      Probably a lot of forced perspective shots and blink and you’ll miss it applications just like the first 3 movies.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        stretchy powers always look like shit in live action tho; it only works for characters who are meant to be creepy

        this, even if the cgi is 'perfect' it doesn't work; bodies aren't supposed to stretch and grow so it always looks stupid in live action. the powers they gave her are fine.

        1. Do not stretch the face.
        2. Remember conservation of mass
        3. Do not show bare skin stretching
        4. Keep movements snappy and elastic. Stretchy stuff still wants to return to its default state, it doesn't slowly snake out like a Japanese monster.

        Cartoons have figured this out for ages, but live action stuff never wants to try it for some reason. It would be even easier for Kamala because her outfit covers most of her body already. Give her gloves and you're set.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Do not stretch the face
          I just can't picture that working in live action. It's fine in cartoons because they're "unreal" by nature, even the most detailed CG human is still just a representation of one and our brain gets that. But I think watching a real human head on a stretchy CG body, even if they try their best to make it look "real", will always look goofy and out of place.
          I'm open to being proven wrong, but I've never seen a good example of it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, just by the nature of these shows this approach would mean Kamala is a cartoon for every action sequence. But would that be tok different from how it is now?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Also, Kamala is a goofy character. They should embrace that.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Face stretching only works either to be extremely unsettling or to be over the top cartoonish. Either pic related or Plastic Man morphing into something for a laugh.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >stretchy powers always look like shit in live action tho;
      I don't believe this, and I see this as a lazy handwaving excuse

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody liked her ORIGINAL goofy-ass powers. She's another Miles: nobody asked for her, nobody WANTS her, and they don't know what to do with her. They should give her the Good Boy (better character, btw) treatment and abruptly ditch her with no explanation given.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Nobody liked her ORIGINAL goofy-ass powers
      Lies

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I liked how the stretchy powers made per awkward. She was the small time non-glamorous hero.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly, stuff like this was funny and cute. Giving her light constructs takes away a huge amount of the charm.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I liked how the stretchy powers made per awkward. She was the small time non-glamorous hero.

        Frick, forgot image.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly, stuff like this was funny and cute. Giving her light constructs takes away a huge amount of the charm.

      [...]
      Frick, forgot image.

      Her creator made her stretch specifically BECAUSE it was a goofy power that wasn't pretty.

      Giving her diamond light constructs is total betrayal of the character and a fundamental misunderstanding

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe people could've swallowed that more easily if the show itself wasn't shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This and Moon Kight had the same problem, they escalated far too quickly. Most of the season should have been slowly uncovering secrets and learning to control their powers, with the oher major characters only showing up in the finale.
      The Djinn literally went from "We're family, we've been waiting a long time and need your help." to "This is taking too long, capture her" in the space of one episode, that sort of betrayal could have been teased out over a whole season if they knew what they were doing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Frick the Djinn, they could've used any comic villain Kamala has. Would be 100% more memorable than those forgettable buttholes. Frick Damage Control as well for that matter.
        It was 6 episodes of nothing interesting happening. The most interesting thing about this series was a Ten Rings easter egg.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Phase 4 has this problem in general. They’re trying to tell personal small scale stories but after a few episodes they blow it up into ridiculous stakes instead of focusing on the characters. The second Ms Marvel went to Pakistan and abandoned the whole side case I knew there was an issue

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >"This is taking too long, capture her" in the space of one episode
        The same thing happened in Moon Knight

        >"Khonshu, if you ever frick with the sky again we'll punish you."
        >Me: Interesting, that must be foreshadowing some future event where he's forced to mess with the sky again. I wonder when that'll come up again?
        >Very next episode:
        >"I'm going to frick with the sky for no reason."

        I mean, astronomers exist in this world don't they? Would it have been that hard to try googling where the stars where on that date before immediately doing the thing you were just told not to do? It's like the writers are terrified the audience will forget what just happened unless every plot point is resolved immediately.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They confirm in the end she is a mutant though and we see her actually stretch her body

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about this shit, most people didn't even watch the fricking show
    like out of all the bastardizations that happen in every movie or show this is the one that has least amount fricks given
    >oh noes she went from big hands to glowing big hands

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