>Have a cartoon with lots of impressive action choreography, very animated acting and emoting, visible superpowers/magic, stylized characters, inhuman animals
>Make it live action
>It all looks bad in live action
>"But anon, those things just don't translate well into live action!"
Then WHY MAKE IT LIVE ACTION? If the piece of media was practically perfected as a cartoon, and being live action does nothing but limit it
Why would you DO IT!?
No this isn't even just about about Avatar, this is an issue in general
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Because $$$$$$.
Things don't just make money because you made them
Money and normalgays view animation as an inferior media.
pretty much this, my sister didn't give a shit about one piece until the live action and now she started reading the manga. they'll always see actors and think "wow it's more mature" even if the animated version is better
The implication of animation is that it is a station for the immediate percolation for the sanitation of the inoculation of the present situation should be the immediatation of:
Immediate numeration which will increase association with current situation.
Or a simple dedication to the cost evaluation about what this implication can create in this station.
But of course it isn't in the equation to make the expectations of the exhalations of fanatic liberations to create the implication that an explanation would:
Simply state, people are dumb.
DUUUDE THAT POST IS SO EPIC AND SCREENSHOTTABLE DUDE
I wish I screenshot your mom's pussy. Despite having a full human head coming out of it, shit was still tight. Gotta imagine your head looks like Jimmy Neutron with how narrow your thoughts are.
ok you know what i'm not even mad i've never been insulted like that before
Not gonna lie, don't know where that came from either, think maybe
might be right and I'm autistic as frick, never thought that was the case. Gonna play some Starcraft to cool off...Don't think that's helping me.
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Did ChatGPT write this reply?
This is complete gibberish.
>White people thinking they speak gibberish
You can squid your own dipper. There's no reason to castigate my alabaster elephant when you are stuck between a Nissan and a wall of glass.
So in short Burger King's new Jalapeno-Cheddar burger is the perfect dinner if you're looking for one. If not you can just go home.
Are you a bot?
Are you a bot? Only bots ask that question in my experience.
>castigate my alabaster elephant
I'll percolate your dick with a pitchfork wtf is this shit
Stop saying words that end with "ation."
Fire Nation.
Toph cumflation
How to find the alleviation to this current situation would a conflagration to the immediation of the trepidation of the adulation of the audience participation.
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Because Average Joe don't take comics, cartoons, or video games seriously. Hence why when they adapt Last of Us, Silent Hill, Airbender, and most superhero stories with live-action people. Hence why """"live-action"""" Lion King, Aladdin, and Beauty & the Beast gets a billion dollars.
Even though they will still use special effects and they might as well be animated CG characters at times, a normie is always going to think "WOOOOAHHHH LOOK AT THAT ACCURATE COSPLAY" is cooler than a 2D drawing or a CG model. It's always been true that people are blown away by good graphics and real people is the ultimate form of "good graphics" as dumb as it is to say.
I guess 2d will never be respected outside of anime
It's not respected there, either. That's why people did live-action reboots of Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, One Piece, etc.
How many instances can you think where a live-action product is adapted into animated form and it WASN'T just to cut costs? Live-action adaptation is often a spectacle deal. "Look at all these cool sets", "look at how accurate our Aang actor is!", "Look at Yogi Bear if he were real!".
It's also a "universal appeal" thing. For many, it also removes that "barrier" that might keep people out. Some people don't like anime writing and voice acting, but they'll gladly watch the One Piece show which is made more like a traditional American series. Some people don't play video games and aren't going to look up "Last of Us: All Cutscenes No Commentary", but they'll happily watch the TV show nonetheless. How many people are actually going to read Avengers comics vs. just watching a shit ton of movies?
>That's why people did live-action reboots of Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, One Piece, etc.
But live action anime reboots are almost universally hated and pretty much all of them flop.
I think the only live action versions of anime/manga/whatever that are actually respected and aren't considered garbage that are vastly inferior to the original are Oldboy, Edge of Tomorrow, and maybe Alita Battle Angel depending on who you ask.
>Some people don't like anime writing and voice acting, but they'll gladly watch the One Piece show which is made more like a traditional American series.
True I did that
It was good. Much better than whatever the frick they wasted 500 anime episodes on
Not to participate in west-vs-east gayging, but is the One Piece live action show good? I heard it's like the only decent Netflix adaptation
Worth watching?
This may sound weird, but are you white?
If you're white, chances are you will have a lower tolerance for animation and cartoons in general and will prefer the LA series.
If you're not, then I'd just say read the manga.
What the hell are you talking about I asked you a question and you provided me with frick
Wait
>Posed exactly a minute apart
Are you the same guy? This weird obsession with "white people" seems like an issue
No, it's a legitimate answer.
Whites just generally tend to be less receptive towards animation and things considered too "cartoony."
schizo
Wouldn't recommend it as an introduction. Works best if you already have seen One Piece really. Unfortunately if you want to get into One Piece you really have to read the manga. The start of the anime is decent but does show its age and the filler isn't great (save the G8 arc if you are going to watch something from the anime watch that), but then later the pacing gets absolutely unwatchable and the animation takes a major dip in quality until recently. The netflix show was a "good" live action adaptation but that still means it is uncanny and awkward as frick. Fine as a little fun proof of concept as unlike others it was at least apparent they had some respect for the source material but it shouldn't have lasted more than a season.
being one of the better ones isn't a hard bar to clear, but at least it managed to give the impression someone behind the scenes actually read the fricking manga and the creator was heavily involved with it. there are enough little touches that show someone cared and even added some foreshadowing where it was missing.
it's an ok series, but do yourself a favor and jist read the manga. maybe watch the live action if you're really curious
The OP anime is unfortunately not good and it has always been low on toei's priority list but the manga is way more fun than the series. I guess if you want something more generic and american the series would be way more appealing.
>It was good
Why do you like shit?
This. I remember a guy on Cinemaphile that seemed pretty knowledgeable regarding movies refused to watch anime because he heard it will get a la adaptation by a well known director. Some people love the ideas that are present in animation but hate the medium itself which is pretty sad since they are fueling this shit.
Hilarious that b***hes be like that, and yet the number of live action characters that have EVER been as recognizable as Mario or SpongeBob can be counted on one hand.
To be fair, the Silent Hill movie was pretty good.
The Live-Action Disney movies were strictly a fad that peaked with the Lion King. After that it was made clear to the wider audience that these films actually kind of suck, and those movies have cratered since.
>Then WHY MAKE IT LIVE ACTION?
money
it's a safer bet to use a known brand than to try and make up a new one
even if it's shit you will have braindead consoomers and hate watchers so the risk of loss is smaller
also politics, you are not allowed to like anything that was make before current year censorship standards were implemented in the corporate world
Because corporations think normalgays want to watch live action slop, cartoons are for kids not adults.
I hope we get to the point of animated adaptations of live action movies.
>cartoons are for kids not adults
which is probably also the kinda thinking that makes it so that whenever we DO get a cartoon for adults
it's either some stupid crap where people just talk about current celebs and say FRICK SHIT c**t b***h all the time, or some whiny sitcom trying to teach us a lesson
Exactly, normalgays associate cartoons with keeping their dumb kids entertained for an hour while they frick off and do something else.
"Adult" cartoons will only be animated sitcom Family Guy clones, instead of taking actual advantage of the medium.
Normalhomosexuals are moronic enough to think adults playing dress up in front of a camera is somehow more artistic than moving paintings.
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>Verification not required.
homosexual
i'm not even disagreeing with that you said, you're absolutely right
but still
homosexual for doing that
Your mom's a homosexual
>No this isn't even just about about Avatar, this is an issue in general
I liked the first Mortal Kombat movie on the 90s
the franchise even ripped off stuff from it like making Kano an australian
More money for Israel fundings
Gotta love Cinemaphile is now getting so contrarian it’s whining about live action adaptations when it wasn’t that long ago that the board was hyped the frick out about Avatar getting a live action TV show
>I can't believe people went from being excited about something to complaining about it as more info came out and it started looking worse and worse!
You went from being excited about a live action adaptation to whining that live action adaptations shouldn’t exist at all. Over a single show without watching a minute of it.
Oh no, I've always hated live action adaptations since they're moronic and made for NPCs.
Dude who the frick is "you" do you honestly believe everyone on Cinemaphile is one guy?
The fricking board, you idiot. This place used to be obsessed with live action adaptation speculation and wanting them to be made. And now, because bunch of pissy fanboys are angry over a single cartoon show being adapted in a way they don’t like, the board is actively starting to advocate that you shouldn’t do any live action adaptations. Simply because live action adaptations are so popular and do what all adaptations do, ie change stuff rather than do a frame by frame transfer to live action form.
Ok? But a board is a group of people, not an individual, you act as if two different threads made by two different people full of two different groups of individuals are somehow obligated to have the same opinions because Cinemaphile is a hivemind
Also I agree with what the other anon said, opinions change
Some people might've thought it was good until they didn't, and that's fine too
I'll agree with you that Cinemaphile is a shithole and has many dishonest people on it, but you should speak up about it when it applies, not when someone criticizes something that someone else likes and for some reason that breaks your mind
>a single cartoon show
People don't like live action adaptations because they tend to suck, miss the point of the original, and be a vehicle for hacks to make money/build their career.
Why do you people who criticize everyone who dislikes cartoons-to-L.A adaptations so often pull the "you're not happy when it's too different and you're not happy when it's too similar" card? Our criticism is that it doesn't need to exist, it's a downgrade
If it's too similar then it doesn't need to be, if it's too different then it usually just misses the point of an otherwise perfected show, it never, EVER hits the mark of being exactly right on the themes and concepts while just different enough in presentation to account for the different medium
Wanna know why? Because it's never made by people with a passion who artistically know and understand both the original as well as the mediums of animation and filmmaking to such a degree to translate one into the other flawlessly and effectively
"Contrarian" is one of those words that DOES have an actual real definition, but is oftentimes just used to mean some made up bullshit to fit whatever narrative the user is spinning
Nobody was ever excited about that garbage, shill
>Then WHY MAKE IT LIVE ACTION?
Because only kids and autists watch cartoons.
Normalgays are something else, man
They come to a website dedicated to things they hate, with a culture they hate, practices and functions they hate, and then complain about them
Just don't come here dude go back to Facebook or something idk
There are a lot of people that are literally moronic and won't watch animation but will watch a shittier version of that animation if it has real people in it.
uhh it's more realistic and new that way, you know cartoons are for kids right? And anyways why would you wanna watch the old misogynistic cartoon when you can watch the live action version where sokka isn't a piece of shit male?
How many times do we need to explain to you annoying homosexuals that doing the bit ironically is still obnoxious
Zuko tantrum is funny
Cartoons are for children. Live action is always more commercially successful because it appeals to more people. You'd understand this if you weren't an emotionally-stunted manchild
gays will say this, but then be DEAD silent when you point out that none of Nick's live action shows achieved even a fraction of SpongeBob's popularity.
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>Verification not required.
Post disregarded
Your mom disregarded you.
Terrible premise. There have been many cartoon adaptations, it just comes down to the skill of the production involved. Scooby Doo Live action, Dick Tracy, Every Tim Burton movie, Popeye, Flintstones. The real reason it sucks is because the crew is untalented. That’s it. If they could make One Piece work but not avatar, it’s a skill issue.
One Piece didn't work either
Its still prolly gonna be a more pleasant watch than live action avatar
Sure but mediocre doesn't become good just because there abysmal garbage next to it.
We could have had a Kyoshi animated series.
Most important thing in adaptation is keeping the themes intact. Adapting dialogue per verbatim is meaningless if you shit on themes in next scenes.
One Piece live-action at least capture 60% of Oda's themes.
This adaptation doesn't seem to understand the themes of the series, so it can't respect it.
E.g. why change Zuko's motivation from wanting respect of his father to being next Fire Lord?
Most people can relate the motivation of trying to impress someone whom they have disappointed.
Because normalgays think that cartoons are for kids and aren't particularly critical about most of this shit.
Because most people still think animation is for children, so when you make a live action version of the same story people view it as the definitive, mature version of the story
>doesn't translate in live action
>60s and 70s action stars made it fricking work
These cheap tards need to be shot.