reminder to watch the film cut and not the 6 episodes of filler
https://www.kaipattersonfilms.com/kenobi
He was fun in Hunt for Red October, but by God he was absolutely amazing in Sandlot when I was a kid. I didn't even know who the hell Babe Ruth was when I first watched that movie, but judging by the way everyone talks about him in that movie he may as well have been Hercules.
>cut out Reva being an annoying c**t >cut out the awful chase sequence in the woods >35 minutes in and Obi Wan has already found Leia
it's decent so far, but the material itself keeps it from being on par with the prequels or any of the animated shows
>I've buried Obi-Wan in rocks, he must be dead. I mean how could he possibly survive? I don't need to sense his life force or use of the force, the rocks were surely enough. >somebody was paid to write this
My favorite "death" is probably the inexplicable suicide of that rebel spy lady, whose holster somehow survives the explosion and is later given to Leia because they were good friends.
It's a pretty good Obi-Wan moment too, because he runs like five feet to the locked hangar door and the suicide was meaningless. I was laughing so hard and pic related hadn't even occurred yet.
I'm glad the show exists. It's a goldmine and great teaching material for what not to do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look at this lad right here! He naively thinks that someone will use this show as bad example. Bless your naive heart, my sweet child. This is now the golden standard of writing and this will be praised. And everything will be getting worse and worse and worse until the void comes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I thought that was Padme's holster. Obi-Wan had it in his chest right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, so did I.
Apparently not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, so did I.
Apparently not.
Pretty sure it was given to Obi-Wan by Kumar after they escape Vader's Level 66 Force Pull
He didn't want to kill him deep inside. He even asked yoda to switch roles and go after palpatine instead but yoda told him to shut the frick up because he would get easily mogged by the emperor.
So why'd he track Obi-Wan and initiate the fight? Also he kills Ben in A New Hope, incase you were unaware.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He meant Obi-Wan didn't want to kill Vader. Vader was perfectly fine killing Obi-Wan... although he goes about it incompetently in the show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Right. Not sure why he responded as if I was talking about Obi-Wan.
I guess it could be easily confused, considering they both bury eachother in rocks during the same fight.
Even mainstream normie sites like CBR.com are asking why Obiwan and Vader both let each other live (Vader did it twice). Has Disney made any statement about this at all?
They're good friends.
On a more serious note; why does the show exist at all? It's literally just money laundering. There's no original material and the technical qualities are more laughable than the Prequels.
The entire "buildup" is for a joke fight sequence that has no character development that wasn't already shown in Revenge of the Sith.
I'm so sorry George, all of your hard work has been ruined.
>I'm so sorry George, all of your hard work has been ruined
This show is ass and I'm genuinely confused at how positive it has been received, but it's not even close to being the thing that ruined Lucas's work. That would be the sequel trilogy in it's entirety. At it's worst, Kenobi tells us nothing we don't already know. The sequels actually ruined characters everyone knows and loves and they can never be undone. Even if we all just agree to pretend they aren't canon, we can never have a continuation of the Skywalker saga with Fisher, Hamill and Ford in their original roles.
And George had a three film outline he sold to Disney. Even if you hate the prequels, most people would agree that Lucas's broad strokes ideas are good. The man invented Star Wars. And his treatments actually made sense. It would be about Luke forming a new Jedi order, Leia attempting to rebuild the republic, and the remaining forces from the Empire splintering off and creating their own factions with Maul and an apprentice taking over the criminal underworld and ultimately reclaiming power. Even if you hate Maul, then replace him with an OC character and you at least have a trilogy that makes sense in light of the films that came before it. Instead Disney is just like, nah. We're remaking A New Hope even if that makes no logistical sense whatsoever. There's a new Empire. Don't you dare ask where they came from because we aren't telling you.
>smart people realize that... shockingly... both can be bad!
Prequelgays are literally incapable of this basic level of intelligence
Notice how the guy ITT defending them also believes if you don't believe the lasted "Kathleen Kennedy will be gone in t-two more weeks" bullshit than that makes you a Kathleen Kennedy fan?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Notice how the guy ITT defending them also believes if you don't believe the lasted "Kathleen Kennedy will be gone in t-two more weeks" bullshit than that makes you a Kathleen Kennedy fan?
No, I'm saying you're a Kennedy fanboi because you don't want her gone. You don't look into any of the reasons she's likely leaving over, and try to defend her from criticism. In short, you are a simp.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, I'm saying you're a Kennedy fanboi because you don't want her gone.
lol
lmao even
2 years ago
Anonymous
>lmao even
In other words, I'm right. Or, you could explain your position, maybe? You know, like a normal person.
Course, it doesn't matter if she's fired or not. She has no power at the company, and hasn't had power there for over a year.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Or, you could explain your position, maybe? You know, like a normal person.
I haven't because you legit come off as someone with schizophrenia with the way you jumped to this conclusion.
No, I am not a fan of Kathleen Kennedy. All I said earlier was I've heard she's going to quit a thousand times before and it never happens.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I haven't because you legit come off as someone with schizophrenia
Not an argument. >All I said earlier was I've heard she's going to quit a thousand times before and it never happens.
That's because you don't look at the evidence and just listen to morons like Doomcuck who makes a bunch of failed predictions.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't even know who Doomcuck is, just that he's some youtuber.
Again, stop jumping to conclusions, you sound genuinely unhinged.
The prequels ruined Star Wars well before that point, the sequels just carried on their work.
Part of Luke's justification for giving up in the sequels was acknowledging how badly the Jedi fricked up with Anakin and how useless they were. That was a pure prequel concept.
>They won't.
Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, the toys aren't selling, the actors want nothing to do with it, the fandom hates it, and Favreau and Filoni hate it. Oh, and KK is leaving, likely after October this year.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Oh, and KK is leaving, likely after October this year.
kek, I love this constant >t-two more weeks narrative
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He hasn't seen any of the evidence.
She clearly doesn't want to be there, all of her projects got shitcanned, her tenth anniversary is coming up, and everyone hates her. Why would she stay?
2 years ago
Anonymous
All I know is I've been hearing this shit for a decade and it never ends up being true
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's because you're impatient and listen to the wrong people. Listen to Kamran Pasha instead of Doomcuck. Corpo politics move slower than a lazy glacier. It would always have required KK stepping down willingly after having all of her trashed, not before.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>KK is totally leaving I know we've been wrong the last 20 times but this time fr though! The totally based redpilled faction behind the masterpiece called Book of Boba Fett and Star Wars Resistance is going to save Star Wars with moronic Force time travel and CG Luke Skywalker!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Uses soijak picture. >Is a KK worshipper.
Oh, that's ironic. >The totally based redpilled faction behind the masterpiece called Book of Boba Fett and Star Wars Resistance is going to save Star Wars with moronic Force time travel and CG Luke Skywalker!
It's better than being a black-pill guzzling moron that can't enjoy anything and just goes around trying to make everyone else as spiteful, bitter and joyless as they are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>N-No u are the KK worshipper not meeeeee what do you mean Dave Filoni loves the ST and KK fake news my favoruite e-celb told me QWQ
You Disneyshills really love eating up dogshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Leaves out that Filoni was coerced into that because KK was at the height of her power and this was in 2016.
Critical thinking isn't your strong suit, is it? Kind of like how you don't understand office politics, and why she is likely going out the door sometime this year after October, especially since Chapek fired Peter Rice.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Dude who goes back against Lucas' suddenly loses motivation to grow a spine because my favourite e-celeb told me my fanfiction of the Force time travel is totally going to become canon with all the CG Luke I could ask for qwq
Absolutely mindbroken and mousepilled.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Hurr, KK is an immortal KWEEN!
That's you, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Filoni loves KK and the Sequels here is the evidence, nothing will be fixed >N-Nuh but what about that e-celeb who told me Star Wars is going to be saved through timetravel and CG Luke you clearly just like KK
Just listen to yourself, mousecuck lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Filoni loves KK and the Sequels here is the evidence, nothing will be fixed
Filoni didn't make the Sequels, you mong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>H-He didn't make the sequels but despite getting taught by Rian Johnson on the set of TLJ and constantly fawning over and teasing the sequels in his own shows he clearly hates the sequels
LOL
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He didn't make the sequels
Right. Correct, he didn't. >constantly fawning
Where? If you were talking about Pablo Hidalgo, I'd believe you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't think Hidalgo cares for TFA or TROS either. Not sure what he thinks of TLJ.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't think Hidalgo cares for TFA or TROS either. Not sure what he thinks of TLJ.
Hidalgo was the one who got his name on the credits of Resistance. Of course he loves that shit, he's a hardcore "male feminist" and Sequel worshipper/Kennedy b***hboy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't think Hidalgo cares for TFA or TROS either. Not sure what he thinks of TLJ.
There's a twitter thread where he ranked them. TLJ is pretty high up but TFA and TROS are both at the bottom.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bro I gave you two interviews now while you haven't had a single ounce of cred to yourself only using e-celebs as your proof for your fanfiction becoming reality.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Both of which are invalid because he was likely coerced into it. If you think Filoni is okay with his life's work (the old Star Wars EU) being shitcanned to pump out Kennedy's Feminist dreck, I don't know what to tell you.
He literally has a Lothcat eating a homosexual Porg. That speaks for itself. It's totally not that he's being forced to say he liked it, publicly, and if he doesn't he'll get fired for not being "feminist enough".
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not even marvel has been taken and fricked by woke shit this bad
2 years ago
Anonymous
>b-but Favreau and Filoni...!
They're both hacks and Filoni has been actively hurting Star Wars since TCW.
Star Wars has been dead since 2008. Wake up.
>This show is ass and I'm genuinely confused at how positive it has been received,
It’s been saved thankfully by the character introduction of Reva, now that this essential Star Wars character has been brought forward with any luck they will start filming Rian Johnson’s Trilogy of a young reva joining the inquisitors, to her continued fight against Vader and ultimately her training Luke Skywalker after the fall of the empire that ultimately left him broken and wanting to teach rather than do. I am so ready for TV shows, collectibles and EU books on Reva, why she was not front and centre this entire time is beyond me, Disney need to capitalise on this character over the next 50 years.
>we can never have a continuation of the Skywalker saga with Fisher, Hamill and Ford in their original roles.
We never needed it. We didn't need the prequels either.
How can I be filtered by something I haven't even seen lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
You just looked at one scene and got filtered, anon? Do you suffer from demensia lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
A scene you posted that was supposed to be evidence of it looking good.
If that's the best you can come up with than I doubt the rest looks any good.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Clearly you haevn't watched Clone Wars 03 lmao
>>lmao >affected offhand derisive laughter at the end of posts
for all the b***hing people on here do about zoomers, they've sure picked up on their single worst and most disgusting habit
>not force sensitive >able to hold his own with force sensitive users
How did Greivous do it for as long as he did?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He was previously a warlord that was considered a demigod by his people because of how good he was at killing giant bugs, so he's had a lot of combat experience. Mix that with cybernetics and a bunch of rage stims and you get Kaleesh Vader.
In the same scene I posted, Dooku explains the best method for him to deal with Jedi as well, which we see him actively use in his introduction at Hypori: >Count Dooku : [sees Grievous's lightsaber] Hmm, a new one? >General Grievous : Your training has served me well. It has awarded me many trophies. >Count Dooku : Don't let your pursuit of trinkets cloud your reality. Remember what I taught you, General. If you are to succeed in combat against the best of the Jedi, you must have fear, surprise, and intimidation on your side. But if any one element is lacking, it would be best for you to retreat. You must break them before you engage them. Only then will you ensure victory and have your trophy.
You also have to remember that in the CWMMP, the clone wars weren't a pubstomp for the Republic. The CIS were capable of pushing them back hard, and Grievous was so good at what he did in war, that even Thrawn studied his tactics.
Really makes nuGrievous feel shallow in comparison.
2 years ago
Anonymous
We don't know because that CW series isn't canon. Lucas has confirmed time and again that the incompetent goofy Greivous from the movie is how he's supposed to act. He probably just bought the lightsabers at a thrift shop.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Grievous wasn't really goofy or incompetent in RotS, TCW just flanderized the frick out of him.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He was, by design.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And Star Wars is worse for it, unfortunately. EU version simply mogged George on every level.
If they had done what was possibly implied in ROTJ when Vader told Luke "Obi Wan once thought as you do" when Luke is trying to convince Vader to be good then it would've had purpose. It'd have to be shortly after ROTS for the A new hope lines to work and be about Obi Wan feeling horrible about Anakin surviving in pain forever and alone in grief over the death of his family so HE seeks out Vader but Vader professes his devotion to the empire and the dark side and does dark to demonstrate it. I did like how in the show they ended it with Obi Wan calling him Darth to show why he calls him Darth later instead of Anakin.
It's not money laundering, it's just pumping out more shit from a big, recognisable franchise.
You watched it didn't you? And you'll probably watch the next Star Wars crap they pump out like "Young Leia: Jedi Training" because you're a hopeless consoomer still buying into this crap.
I'm just trying to make you realise how dumb you are for thinking this is money laundering.
Like you watched it and you're discussing it online with people, and you think this show didn't get a large audience? Disney knows they just have to make a product and people with flock to it, quality is an afterthought.
I haven't watched this shit, but is Obi-Wan seriously in a position to kill Vader but doesn't because muh feelings? If so why was he so insistent on getting Luke to kill Vader when he himself refused to on two occasions?
>I haven't watched this shit, but is Obi-Wan seriously in a position to kill Vader but doesn't because muh feelings?
No, it's much worse than that. He sees what Anakin has become, agrees that his friend is already dead and only Vader remains, then walks away for no reason at al.
Is he in a position to kill Vader though? I saw this webm of Obi-Wan earthbending at Vader, and it looks like he's got the upper hand in this fight and probably beats him, I'm wondering if he does another moronic thing like "I've beat you, but I'm too honourable to kill you..." even though that's exactly what Obi-Wan wants Luke to do in the OT
Yeah, he pretty handily has Vader beat by the end of the fight. His helmet is smashed and his breathing apparatus is malfunctioning. He could easily kill him, but he doesn't. And I would agree with you about it being the "honorable" thing to do, except we know that Vader goes on to kill thousands of people, including Jedi outlaws. We know that in this series alone he has killed innocent people including children. He did it in front of Obi-Wan.
>And I would agree with you about it being the "honorable" thing to do
It fricking isn't though, he knows the Empire is being run by literal evil personified and that killing Vader helps cripple it.
I hate how Star Wars has defined itself around Luke's decision not to kill Vader, as if all Jedi should be ridiculously virtuous like that. Luke doesn't kill him simply because Vader is his father and believes he can be saved, if he was just some random former pupil of Obi-Wan's he absolutely would have killed him, like Obi-Wan was telling him to.
>It fricking isn't though, he knows the Empire is being run by literal evil personified and that killing Vader helps cripple it.
Yeah, no I agree. I mean, that seems to be the idea the show was trying to communicate, despite that making no sense whatsoever. He has every reason to kill Vader.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah I just read your post again, my bad.
Still though I hate this mindset around Star Wars now, it's pure childish wishful thinking, not even the hint of grit. I guess it was always a little like that but it's just gotten worse over time.
This is still baffling, considering it had already been established. I mean damn, what's the last half hour of RotS for if not to show Obi-Wan gradually throwing Anakin's dogtags overboard?
>No, it's much worse than that. He sees what Anakin has become, agrees that his friend is already dead and only Vader remains, then walks away for no reason at al.
Oh no, how dare he not follow what you wanted, and instead give him a cruel mercy.
Oh, and Obi-Wan knew Vader was lying when he said Anakin was dead.
>he stilled cared about him
He literally called him Darth as an insult and caring didn't stop him before and after on trying to kill Anakin/Vader.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He literally called him Darth as an insult
I interpreted that as one of those "fine homosexual, I'll call you the stupid fricking homosexual name like you want me to" moments.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He literally called him Darth as an insult
So? That proves what, exactly? He still cared about him, and it was clear that Anakin was bullshitting either to goad Obi-wan into killing or to get in another attack, and Obi-Wan just went "Nah" and left him to have meltie by himself.
If he didn't still care about him, he would have just killed him or continued to attack him. It's similar to when Luke defeated him in ROTJ, and felt pity for him after chopping off one of his prosthetics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's a prequel Jedi. Caring doesn't matter. He would still kill a Sith shown in RotS and the OT. He also only saw the robot left at the end of the fight meaning he didn't care anymore
2 years ago
Anonymous
How would it be an insult? It's some kind of title or honorific for Sith. It's like addressing someone as "sir" or "my lord"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's like addressing someone as "sir" or "my lord"
Because no one has ever mockingly called a snooty elitist "sir" before?
He literally says "I will do what I must" even directly before fighting him to make Star Wars manchildren and Filonigays clap again yet still doesn't kill Vader. Every death because of Vader after this episode is on Obi-Wan. If that ain't character assassiation I don't know what is. Also hugely unbelievable that the writers thought Obi-Wan bares no responsibility on Anakin becoming Vader thus freeing himself of his guild. If he were a better father figure and mentor this all could have been avoided.
>He literally says "I will do what I must"
Fricking hell that's embarrassing >Also hugely unbelievable that the writers thought Obi-Wan bares no responsibility on Anakin becoming Vader thus freeing himself of his guild. If he were a better father figure and mentor this all could have been avoided.
Is that actually true? Sounds moronic
Not sure Lucas' writing is deep enough but the whole saga seems to imply that the Jedi are incompetent. They're honorable, noble, respectful, etc... entirely comprised of good qualities, but blinded by them in the same way Dark Side users are. Ignorance is a major theme of the Prequels. >tl;dr
Yeah, Obi-Wan bears responsibility, but how much? He was raised by the Jedi Council, a group of ignorant and incompetent Jedi "Masters", and who raised them? It's a cycle with no evolution or recognition of its own failures. Just narcissism on both sides.
In the main script he knows that but the actor pissed himself and made a tantrum so that had to be removed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>START THE BLOODY DUEL BEFORE I PISS MESELF
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Cinemaphile humor
2 years ago
Anonymous
Laugh, or I'll call the cyber janitors
2 years ago
Anonymous
source?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Implying Christopher Lee is anything less than a complete professional with perfect bladder control. >Implying Dracula couldn't just compel George Lucas to do what he wants
>Obi-Wan bears responsibility, but how much?
Whether it's smaller or bigger, the issue is presenting to their moronic manbaby TCW only audience that Obi-Wan should be free of guilt unironically. If this was made a by a competent team of writers and directors they would have realised they could still show him be free of guilt but also make that thought process be completely wrong like it's a sort of coping mechanism like in for example Better Call Saul (without spoilering it). That way it would connect better to the OT but also show that Luke really is the best Jedi, one who actually shows the wrong doing of Obi-Wan and Yoda.
Disney has done everything in their power to undermine Return of the Jedi's best scenes and Vader's sacrifice. Unless they replace Luke with CG Jake Skymilker from Boba and Mando it's forever tarnished.
>He literally says "I will do what I must"
Fricking hell that's embarrassing >Also hugely unbelievable that the writers thought Obi-Wan bares no responsibility on Anakin becoming Vader thus freeing himself of his guild. If he were a better father figure and mentor this all could have been avoided.
Is that actually true? Sounds moronic
Not only that he tells Qui Gon "whether he dies or I do, this ends today."
>If he were a better father figure and mentor this all could have been avoided.
Why do you homosexuals blame Obi-Wan for everything when it was clearly Anakin that was at fault for never listening and being egotistical little snot because "I'm the Chosen One"?
James Earl Jones was better in Hunt for Red October and Sandlot.
I liked him in Coming 2 America (2021)
reminder to watch the film cut and not the 6 episodes of filler
https://www.kaipattersonfilms.com/kenobi
He was fun in Hunt for Red October, but by God he was absolutely amazing in Sandlot when I was a kid. I didn't even know who the hell Babe Ruth was when I first watched that movie, but judging by the way everyone talks about him in that movie he may as well have been Hercules.
Is this cut actually good?
>cut out Reva being an annoying c**t
>cut out the awful chase sequence in the woods
>35 minutes in and Obi Wan has already found Leia
it's decent so far, but the material itself keeps it from being on par with the prequels or any of the animated shows
James Earl Jones wasn't in Kenobi
Didn't Vader follow Obi-Wan?
Don't ask questions
just
>I've buried Obi-Wan in rocks, he must be dead. I mean how could he possibly survive? I don't need to sense his life force or use of the force, the rocks were surely enough.
>somebody was paid to write this
No you're supposed to reply "consume product!"
Anyway the around of fake kills in Obi Wan is incredible, I think it's second only to TRoS.
My favorite "death" is probably the inexplicable suicide of that rebel spy lady, whose holster somehow survives the explosion and is later given to Leia because they were good friends.
It's a pretty good Obi-Wan moment too, because he runs like five feet to the locked hangar door and the suicide was meaningless. I was laughing so hard and pic related hadn't even occurred yet.
I'm glad the show exists. It's a goldmine and great teaching material for what not to do.
Look at this lad right here! He naively thinks that someone will use this show as bad example. Bless your naive heart, my sweet child. This is now the golden standard of writing and this will be praised. And everything will be getting worse and worse and worse until the void comes.
I thought that was Padme's holster. Obi-Wan had it in his chest right?
Yeah, so did I.
Apparently not.
Pretty sure it was given to Obi-Wan by Kumar after they escape Vader's Level 66 Force Pull
He didn't want to kill him deep inside. He even asked yoda to switch roles and go after palpatine instead but yoda told him to shut the frick up because he would get easily mogged by the emperor.
So why'd he track Obi-Wan and initiate the fight? Also he kills Ben in A New Hope, incase you were unaware.
He meant Obi-Wan didn't want to kill Vader. Vader was perfectly fine killing Obi-Wan... although he goes about it incompetently in the show.
Right. Not sure why he responded as if I was talking about Obi-Wan.
I guess it could be easily confused, considering they both bury eachother in rocks during the same fight.
Here ya go, laddy
Disney Star Wars is trash
>but he already bought the bugs
That's from episode 2
Oh, I thought it was from Attack of the Clones
>only a master of evil, darth
Hardest burn in media fr
Even mainstream normie sites like CBR.com are asking why Obiwan and Vader both let each other live (Vader did it twice). Has Disney made any statement about this at all?
They're good friends.
On a more serious note; why does the show exist at all? It's literally just money laundering. There's no original material and the technical qualities are more laughable than the Prequels.
The entire "buildup" is for a joke fight sequence that has no character development that wasn't already shown in Revenge of the Sith.
I'm so sorry George, all of your hard work has been ruined.
>I'm so sorry George, all of your hard work has been ruined
This show is ass and I'm genuinely confused at how positive it has been received, but it's not even close to being the thing that ruined Lucas's work. That would be the sequel trilogy in it's entirety. At it's worst, Kenobi tells us nothing we don't already know. The sequels actually ruined characters everyone knows and loves and they can never be undone. Even if we all just agree to pretend they aren't canon, we can never have a continuation of the Skywalker saga with Fisher, Hamill and Ford in their original roles.
And George had a three film outline he sold to Disney. Even if you hate the prequels, most people would agree that Lucas's broad strokes ideas are good. The man invented Star Wars. And his treatments actually made sense. It would be about Luke forming a new Jedi order, Leia attempting to rebuild the republic, and the remaining forces from the Empire splintering off and creating their own factions with Maul and an apprentice taking over the criminal underworld and ultimately reclaiming power. Even if you hate Maul, then replace him with an OC character and you at least have a trilogy that makes sense in light of the films that came before it. Instead Disney is just like, nah. We're remaking A New Hope even if that makes no logistical sense whatsoever. There's a new Empire. Don't you dare ask where they came from because we aren't telling you.
No one not npc hates the prequels, only people who watch dog shit e-ecelebs do.
>No one not NPC hates the prequels
zoomer, everyone hated the prequels when they came out
what you're referring to is a knee-jerk reaction to the new, even more awful trilogy
smart people realize that... shockingly... both can be bad! hell the original trilogy had some awful moments
>smart people realize that... shockingly... both can be bad!
Prequelgays are literally incapable of this basic level of intelligence
Notice how the guy ITT defending them also believes if you don't believe the lasted "Kathleen Kennedy will be gone in t-two more weeks" bullshit than that makes you a Kathleen Kennedy fan?
>Notice how the guy ITT defending them also believes if you don't believe the lasted "Kathleen Kennedy will be gone in t-two more weeks" bullshit than that makes you a Kathleen Kennedy fan?
No, I'm saying you're a Kennedy fanboi because you don't want her gone. You don't look into any of the reasons she's likely leaving over, and try to defend her from criticism. In short, you are a simp.
>No, I'm saying you're a Kennedy fanboi because you don't want her gone.
lol
lmao even
>lmao even
In other words, I'm right. Or, you could explain your position, maybe? You know, like a normal person.
Course, it doesn't matter if she's fired or not. She has no power at the company, and hasn't had power there for over a year.
>Or, you could explain your position, maybe? You know, like a normal person.
I haven't because you legit come off as someone with schizophrenia with the way you jumped to this conclusion.
No, I am not a fan of Kathleen Kennedy. All I said earlier was I've heard she's going to quit a thousand times before and it never happens.
>I haven't because you legit come off as someone with schizophrenia
Not an argument.
>All I said earlier was I've heard she's going to quit a thousand times before and it never happens.
That's because you don't look at the evidence and just listen to morons like Doomcuck who makes a bunch of failed predictions.
I don't even know who Doomcuck is, just that he's some youtuber.
Again, stop jumping to conclusions, you sound genuinely unhinged.
Totally agree.
The prequels ruined Star Wars well before that point, the sequels just carried on their work.
Part of Luke's justification for giving up in the sequels was acknowledging how badly the Jedi fricked up with Anakin and how useless they were. That was a pure prequel concept.
Not only the characters. They broke the entire setting.
>Even if we all just agree to pretend they aren't canon
What if they make them non-canon using the "Veil of the Force" in Ahsoka?
They won't. Filoni loves TLJ and Disney Wars contrary to what right-wing Star Wars grifters want to make you believe
>They won't.
Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, the toys aren't selling, the actors want nothing to do with it, the fandom hates it, and Favreau and Filoni hate it. Oh, and KK is leaving, likely after October this year.
>Oh, and KK is leaving, likely after October this year.
kek, I love this constant >t-two more weeks narrative
>He hasn't seen any of the evidence.
She clearly doesn't want to be there, all of her projects got shitcanned, her tenth anniversary is coming up, and everyone hates her. Why would she stay?
All I know is I've been hearing this shit for a decade and it never ends up being true
That's because you're impatient and listen to the wrong people. Listen to Kamran Pasha instead of Doomcuck. Corpo politics move slower than a lazy glacier. It would always have required KK stepping down willingly after having all of her trashed, not before.
>KK is totally leaving I know we've been wrong the last 20 times but this time fr though! The totally based redpilled faction behind the masterpiece called Book of Boba Fett and Star Wars Resistance is going to save Star Wars with moronic Force time travel and CG Luke Skywalker!
>Uses soijak picture.
>Is a KK worshipper.
Oh, that's ironic.
>The totally based redpilled faction behind the masterpiece called Book of Boba Fett and Star Wars Resistance is going to save Star Wars with moronic Force time travel and CG Luke Skywalker!
It's better than being a black-pill guzzling moron that can't enjoy anything and just goes around trying to make everyone else as spiteful, bitter and joyless as they are.
>N-No u are the KK worshipper not meeeeee what do you mean Dave Filoni loves the ST and KK fake news my favoruite e-celb told me QWQ
You Disneyshills really love eating up dogshit.
>Leaves out that Filoni was coerced into that because KK was at the height of her power and this was in 2016.
Critical thinking isn't your strong suit, is it? Kind of like how you don't understand office politics, and why she is likely going out the door sometime this year after October, especially since Chapek fired Peter Rice.
>Dude who goes back against Lucas' suddenly loses motivation to grow a spine because my favourite e-celeb told me my fanfiction of the Force time travel is totally going to become canon with all the CG Luke I could ask for qwq
Absolutely mindbroken and mousepilled.
>Hurr, KK is an immortal KWEEN!
That's you, moron.
>Filoni loves KK and the Sequels here is the evidence, nothing will be fixed
>N-Nuh but what about that e-celeb who told me Star Wars is going to be saved through timetravel and CG Luke you clearly just like KK
Just listen to yourself, mousecuck lmao
>Filoni loves KK and the Sequels here is the evidence, nothing will be fixed
Filoni didn't make the Sequels, you mong.
>H-He didn't make the sequels but despite getting taught by Rian Johnson on the set of TLJ and constantly fawning over and teasing the sequels in his own shows he clearly hates the sequels
LOL
>He didn't make the sequels
Right. Correct, he didn't.
>constantly fawning
Where? If you were talking about Pablo Hidalgo, I'd believe you.
I don't think Hidalgo cares for TFA or TROS either. Not sure what he thinks of TLJ.
>I don't think Hidalgo cares for TFA or TROS either. Not sure what he thinks of TLJ.
Hidalgo was the one who got his name on the credits of Resistance. Of course he loves that shit, he's a hardcore "male feminist" and Sequel worshipper/Kennedy b***hboy.
There's a twitter thread where he ranked them. TLJ is pretty high up but TFA and TROS are both at the bottom.
Bro I gave you two interviews now while you haven't had a single ounce of cred to yourself only using e-celebs as your proof for your fanfiction becoming reality.
Both of which are invalid because he was likely coerced into it. If you think Filoni is okay with his life's work (the old Star Wars EU) being shitcanned to pump out Kennedy's Feminist dreck, I don't know what to tell you.
He literally has a Lothcat eating a homosexual Porg. That speaks for itself. It's totally not that he's being forced to say he liked it, publicly, and if he doesn't he'll get fired for not being "feminist enough".
Not even marvel has been taken and fricked by woke shit this bad
>b-but Favreau and Filoni...!
They're both hacks and Filoni has been actively hurting Star Wars since TCW.
Star Wars has been dead since 2008. Wake up.
>This show is ass and I'm genuinely confused at how positive it has been received,
It’s been saved thankfully by the character introduction of Reva, now that this essential Star Wars character has been brought forward with any luck they will start filming Rian Johnson’s Trilogy of a young reva joining the inquisitors, to her continued fight against Vader and ultimately her training Luke Skywalker after the fall of the empire that ultimately left him broken and wanting to teach rather than do. I am so ready for TV shows, collectibles and EU books on Reva, why she was not front and centre this entire time is beyond me, Disney need to capitalise on this character over the next 50 years.
>we can never have a continuation of the Skywalker saga with Fisher, Hamill and Ford in their original roles.
We never needed it. We didn't need the prequels either.
Speak for yourself. The prequels were the best thing that have happened to Star Wars since the OT in direct and indirect ways.
Is this supposed to be good? lmao
Clearly you haevn't watched Clone Wars 03 lmao
Nope and I'm glad I haven't
I'm also glad you got filtered.
How can I be filtered by something I haven't even seen lmao
You just looked at one scene and got filtered, anon? Do you suffer from demensia lmao
A scene you posted that was supposed to be evidence of it looking good.
If that's the best you can come up with than I doubt the rest looks any good.
>>lmao
>affected offhand derisive laughter at the end of posts
for all the b***hing people on here do about zoomers, they've sure picked up on their single worst and most disgusting habit
The prequels are garbage.
Based Genndybro.
>not force sensitive
>able to hold his own with force sensitive users
How did Greivous do it for as long as he did?
He was previously a warlord that was considered a demigod by his people because of how good he was at killing giant bugs, so he's had a lot of combat experience. Mix that with cybernetics and a bunch of rage stims and you get Kaleesh Vader.
In the same scene I posted, Dooku explains the best method for him to deal with Jedi as well, which we see him actively use in his introduction at Hypori:
>Count Dooku : [sees Grievous's lightsaber] Hmm, a new one?
>General Grievous : Your training has served me well. It has awarded me many trophies.
>Count Dooku : Don't let your pursuit of trinkets cloud your reality. Remember what I taught you, General. If you are to succeed in combat against the best of the Jedi, you must have fear, surprise, and intimidation on your side. But if any one element is lacking, it would be best for you to retreat. You must break them before you engage them. Only then will you ensure victory and have your trophy.
You also have to remember that in the CWMMP, the clone wars weren't a pubstomp for the Republic. The CIS were capable of pushing them back hard, and Grievous was so good at what he did in war, that even Thrawn studied his tactics.
Really makes nuGrievous feel shallow in comparison.
We don't know because that CW series isn't canon. Lucas has confirmed time and again that the incompetent goofy Greivous from the movie is how he's supposed to act. He probably just bought the lightsabers at a thrift shop.
Grievous wasn't really goofy or incompetent in RotS, TCW just flanderized the frick out of him.
He was, by design.
And Star Wars is worse for it, unfortunately. EU version simply mogged George on every level.
Damn straight.
If they had done what was possibly implied in ROTJ when Vader told Luke "Obi Wan once thought as you do" when Luke is trying to convince Vader to be good then it would've had purpose. It'd have to be shortly after ROTS for the A new hope lines to work and be about Obi Wan feeling horrible about Anakin surviving in pain forever and alone in grief over the death of his family so HE seeks out Vader but Vader professes his devotion to the empire and the dark side and does dark to demonstrate it. I did like how in the show they ended it with Obi Wan calling him Darth to show why he calls him Darth later instead of Anakin.
if money is laundered or not during the filming process you provided 0 proofs for but it sells about the same regardless of what happened
It's not money laundering, it's just pumping out more shit from a big, recognisable franchise.
You watched it didn't you? And you'll probably watch the next Star Wars crap they pump out like "Young Leia: Jedi Training" because you're a hopeless consoomer still buying into this crap.
I pirated it so don't take out your anger for yourself on me, homosexual.
I'm just trying to make you realise how dumb you are for thinking this is money laundering.
Like you watched it and you're discussing it online with people, and you think this show didn't get a large audience? Disney knows they just have to make a product and people with flock to it, quality is an afterthought.
Yeah, you and me. Dance off, bro!
>no star wars universe cyberpunk film
I haven't watched this shit, but is Obi-Wan seriously in a position to kill Vader but doesn't because muh feelings? If so why was he so insistent on getting Luke to kill Vader when he himself refused to on two occasions?
>I haven't watched this shit, but is Obi-Wan seriously in a position to kill Vader but doesn't because muh feelings?
No, it's much worse than that. He sees what Anakin has become, agrees that his friend is already dead and only Vader remains, then walks away for no reason at al.
Is he in a position to kill Vader though? I saw this webm of Obi-Wan earthbending at Vader, and it looks like he's got the upper hand in this fight and probably beats him, I'm wondering if he does another moronic thing like "I've beat you, but I'm too honourable to kill you..." even though that's exactly what Obi-Wan wants Luke to do in the OT
Yeah, he pretty handily has Vader beat by the end of the fight. His helmet is smashed and his breathing apparatus is malfunctioning. He could easily kill him, but he doesn't. And I would agree with you about it being the "honorable" thing to do, except we know that Vader goes on to kill thousands of people, including Jedi outlaws. We know that in this series alone he has killed innocent people including children. He did it in front of Obi-Wan.
>And I would agree with you about it being the "honorable" thing to do
It fricking isn't though, he knows the Empire is being run by literal evil personified and that killing Vader helps cripple it.
I hate how Star Wars has defined itself around Luke's decision not to kill Vader, as if all Jedi should be ridiculously virtuous like that. Luke doesn't kill him simply because Vader is his father and believes he can be saved, if he was just some random former pupil of Obi-Wan's he absolutely would have killed him, like Obi-Wan was telling him to.
>It fricking isn't though, he knows the Empire is being run by literal evil personified and that killing Vader helps cripple it.
Yeah, no I agree. I mean, that seems to be the idea the show was trying to communicate, despite that making no sense whatsoever. He has every reason to kill Vader.
Oh yeah I just read your post again, my bad.
Still though I hate this mindset around Star Wars now, it's pure childish wishful thinking, not even the hint of grit. I guess it was always a little like that but it's just gotten worse over time.
>CG rock noclips right through CG sabre
>Just casually shrugs off getting hit by dozens of rocks
One smacks straight into his elbow and Vader doesn't react
This is still baffling, considering it had already been established. I mean damn, what's the last half hour of RotS for if not to show Obi-Wan gradually throwing Anakin's dogtags overboard?
>No, it's much worse than that. He sees what Anakin has become, agrees that his friend is already dead and only Vader remains, then walks away for no reason at al.
Oh no, how dare he not follow what you wanted, and instead give him a cruel mercy.
Oh, and Obi-Wan knew Vader was lying when he said Anakin was dead.
>hah, I'll leave him alive to murder hundreds of people, including me eventually
>that'll show him
That, or he stilled cared about him. You know, as it's part of his character.
>he stilled cared about him
He literally called him Darth as an insult and caring didn't stop him before and after on trying to kill Anakin/Vader.
>He literally called him Darth as an insult
I interpreted that as one of those "fine homosexual, I'll call you the stupid fricking homosexual name like you want me to" moments.
>He literally called him Darth as an insult
So? That proves what, exactly? He still cared about him, and it was clear that Anakin was bullshitting either to goad Obi-wan into killing or to get in another attack, and Obi-Wan just went "Nah" and left him to have meltie by himself.
If he didn't still care about him, he would have just killed him or continued to attack him. It's similar to when Luke defeated him in ROTJ, and felt pity for him after chopping off one of his prosthetics.
He's a prequel Jedi. Caring doesn't matter. He would still kill a Sith shown in RotS and the OT. He also only saw the robot left at the end of the fight meaning he didn't care anymore
How would it be an insult? It's some kind of title or honorific for Sith. It's like addressing someone as "sir" or "my lord"
>It's like addressing someone as "sir" or "my lord"
Because no one has ever mockingly called a snooty elitist "sir" before?
No one has.
>lies about Luke's parentage so it's easier for him to kill Vader
Yeah he's practically protecting him.
Just lose the cope.
>for no reason at al.
Fricking filler arcs man
He literally says "I will do what I must" even directly before fighting him to make Star Wars manchildren and Filonigays clap again yet still doesn't kill Vader. Every death because of Vader after this episode is on Obi-Wan. If that ain't character assassiation I don't know what is. Also hugely unbelievable that the writers thought Obi-Wan bares no responsibility on Anakin becoming Vader thus freeing himself of his guild. If he were a better father figure and mentor this all could have been avoided.
>He literally says "I will do what I must"
Fricking hell that's embarrassing
>Also hugely unbelievable that the writers thought Obi-Wan bares no responsibility on Anakin becoming Vader thus freeing himself of his guild. If he were a better father figure and mentor this all could have been avoided.
Is that actually true? Sounds moronic
Not sure Lucas' writing is deep enough but the whole saga seems to imply that the Jedi are incompetent. They're honorable, noble, respectful, etc... entirely comprised of good qualities, but blinded by them in the same way Dark Side users are. Ignorance is a major theme of the Prequels.
>tl;dr
Yeah, Obi-Wan bears responsibility, but how much? He was raised by the Jedi Council, a group of ignorant and incompetent Jedi "Masters", and who raised them? It's a cycle with no evolution or recognition of its own failures. Just narcissism on both sides.
The Sith are anything but ignorant in SW, they're Übermensch nihilists.
Darth T-Rex knew he was gonna be executed? What an honorable sacrifice.
Why do people hate the Sith anyway?
In the main script he knows that but the actor pissed himself and made a tantrum so that had to be removed.
>START THE BLOODY DUEL BEFORE I PISS MESELF
>Cinemaphile humor
Laugh, or I'll call the cyber janitors
source?
>Implying Christopher Lee is anything less than a complete professional with perfect bladder control.
>Implying Dracula couldn't just compel George Lucas to do what he wants
>Why do people hate the Sith anyway?
They frick with liberal democracy, therefore Russia bad.
>Obi-Wan bears responsibility, but how much?
Whether it's smaller or bigger, the issue is presenting to their moronic manbaby TCW only audience that Obi-Wan should be free of guilt unironically. If this was made a by a competent team of writers and directors they would have realised they could still show him be free of guilt but also make that thought process be completely wrong like it's a sort of coping mechanism like in for example Better Call Saul (without spoilering it). That way it would connect better to the OT but also show that Luke really is the best Jedi, one who actually shows the wrong doing of Obi-Wan and Yoda.
Shame the Throne Room is ruined from all three character's perspectives.
Disney has done everything in their power to undermine Return of the Jedi's best scenes and Vader's sacrifice. Unless they replace Luke with CG Jake Skymilker from Boba and Mando it's forever tarnished.
The fricking lightning in the OT has more soul than the PT and ST
Yep.
The Emperor's powers had doubled by Rise of Skywalker, that's why Rey needed two sabers.
Not only that he tells Qui Gon "whether he dies or I do, this ends today."
>If he were a better father figure and mentor this all could have been avoided.
Why do you homosexuals blame Obi-Wan for everything when it was clearly Anakin that was at fault for never listening and being egotistical little snot because "I'm the Chosen One"?
>Have you come to destroy me, Obi-Wan?
b***h what you even babbling about I've been here for like an hour. You came to me.
I've CUM to destroy that bussy! Ahahaahahahahaha
>We'll be remodeling your shithole, Darth.
Anakin is dead. I killed him.
Okay bye.
>Hey man, I was just hanging out. You tracked *me* down.
>Are you srsly this mad about trying so hard to find me Obi Wan
When did Darth Vader become such a shitty troll?
>It's a Reva on Tatooine scene
>Literally the one who chased down Obi-Wan to kill him
What the FRICK did he mean by this?