Hazbin Hotel has the soul of a preteen cartoon, with character designs reminiscent of early 2000's Cartoon Network. A worthy successor to major cultural hits like Regular Show and Foster's Home. It could have been a massive success among audiences of all ages. And yet, it is tarnished by unnecessary cringeworthy swearing.
A shame, really. Vivzie just lost 80% of her potential audience. She just got second place to fricking Digital Circus.
Wake the frick up Samurai, preschool kids swear like old drunkards nowadays.
They always had, idiot. The reason adults try to make their have no swearing is to make them stop swearing as much.
I love when shows address the swearing business in-story.
In fairness, Episode 4 onwards the amount of swears per episode has utterly collapsed, And the show is improved in these later episodes as a result, someone clearly put their foot down around Viv about the swearing shit
Somebody should put a foot down over her neck next. Her stupid show is just useful for porn, after all.
You just sound like you want to give credit for the work to industry productions despite coming out of the indie space, and indeed the industry aggressively attacked it before it got established.
>And yet, it is tarnished by unnecessary cringeworthy swearing.
You want to show the sex stuff, etc. to 7 year olds?
>t. Jealous of her successful creativitu
>You want to show the sex stuff, etc. to 7 year olds?
Yes, xir is a troony, so it's just natural for xir to want to groom them.
At this point you're saying far more about your own mental illness than anyone else's.
>You want to show the sex stuff, etc. to 7 year olds?
You can easily tweak these things without losing much of the meaning. Like characters getting drunk on grape juice for example. Even TADC can make a show for both adults and children.
>Even TADC can make a show for both adults and children.
Goose said once on her Tumblr that TADC is definitely not for kids, due to the content of its future episodes. Honestly, Avatar would had been a better example.
the amount of swearing been replaced by pushing the pacing to the max. There is just not enough time for this
It’s a two season show, with potentially more.
Everyone on this board is behaving like the next 2 episodes are literally meant to be the ‘finale’ of the entire IP
Yeah it’s really hard not to cringe when the clearly cartoon network inspired characters are saying frick this c**t that every 5 seconds. Why pretend to be something you’re not? It would have worked perfectly as a kids show.
based Cinemaphilemrade peddling troony pr0n to the minors
>are saying frick this c**t that every 5 seconds.
Reddit tier
What's worse is that it didn't go far enough either. The only thing that earned the mature rating is the abuse and the swearing. Where's the gratuitous violence? where's the jiggling flesh?
For fricks sake, the "pornstar" has no ass at all, even though he's supposed to be a goddamned spider. None of the demons or the angels are sexy
>None of the demons or the angels are sexy
R34 artists fixed that (at least for Charlie).
WE LITERALLY SEE ANGEL DUST IS WEARING A FAKE ASS IN THE POISON SONG!
MR. DUST…YOU HAVE NO ASS!
Don't Demons (Sinners being synonymous with Demons in this context) have a "Demonic Form"? That could've been Angel getting more into things and letting loose
NTA, but nah, We literally see Valentino tear said ass away from him. Keep eyes on Valentino when he tosses Angel into the room with the other twinks.
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So yes, Anon is right, Apparently the 'biggest [gay] porn star in hell' has a Hank Hill tier ass.
Oh you right, huh, guess that's why he's so proud of his legs and mouth. He's got no cake
bawdastor has a bigger booty then the spider.
>Alastor's V.A. said 'NO!' in response to being asked if Alastor has a tail in the Q&A
It's never been this over...
All the nutrients that would have gone to the tail can instead go to giving him an even fatter ass.
>None of the demons or the angels are sexy
Nothing in this goofy art style is
Except for Lute, Beelzebub, Satan (just by going by Bee's words so ironically hotter than Ozzie/Lust itself), Human Loona, and some background bawds
This. If you’re gonna make a show about demons in hell and market it to adults, at least go all out on the gore and violence. It would have been fun if the cute looking characters exploded into pools of blood and guts. This show is rated R show, yet can’t figure out if it wants to be for teens or for adults.
So you’re saying you haven’t watched the show but want to b***h about it anyway. There’s plenty of gore when fights break out.
this is exactly the problem with the show, it's not clean enough to be appropriate for kids but not edgy enough to really be an adult cartoon either. it's like the awkward halfway point between Invader Zim and JTHM
I actually like how Jesus looks.
>pigzie on a treadmill
holy shit im dead
I guess since women were told it's not proper and ladylike to swear every woman thinks swearing is great edgy humor. Swearing and talking about veganas is all women comedians do.
I just wanna post the gay Demon spider.
Does Vivzie understand that swearing doesn’t equate to adult content? Adults don’t actually swear all that much and adult media doesn’t feature it much either. How much swearing do you see in Breaking Bad? Vivzie doesn’t know how to do adult humor.
her idea of good comedy is seth rogan and south park but she clearly didn't take the right lessons from it
South Park is an exception. The reason why it works for South Park is because the characters are literal 10 year olds. You don’t expect them to say antisemitic slurs so it’s shocking and there’s humor to that. South Park is animated like an afterschool special but goes all out on the gore, violence, depravity, shock factor, etc. It works. Hazbin Hotel is already set in an edgy setting-demons in Hell. Swearing doesn’t work, it just makes the show seem more juvenile. Hazbin Hotel therefore needs a reason to be an adult show, but it really doesn’t have one. Instead they should have gone all out on extreme gore or cruelty. Have colonial era children burn at the stake for being witches. Have holocaust gas chamber victims arrive at hell for not believing in the right religion. Have Jeffery Epstein show up and be a comedic relief character who says questionable things about underaged demons. Cmon, it’s a rated R show. Do fricking anything. Vivzie is a hack.
that's why i said viv took the wrong lessons from it
she doesn't understand that these things don't exist in a vacuum, she either takes them at face value or sees them as window dressing for her fujo bullshit
>You don’t expect them to say antisemitic slurs so it’s shocking and there’s humor to that
We aren't in early 2000's anymore.
Also, demons swearing is completely in-character. Except for Charlie who is supposed to be innocent.
Plenty of forgettable terrible Family Guy ripoffs have been doing what you described for 20 years and been unsuccessful, how many people think back fondly on Brickleberry or whatever it was called?
Hazbin Hotel already has swearing, violence, drugs, and porn for the shock factor. Its real problem is pacing.
South Park is funny and successful because it builds something, it’s basic schtick or Sausage Party’s basic bit is no longer actually shocking because it’s been done already. But SP isn’t just a string of random mindless shock shit.
>Adults don’t actually swear all that much
Clearly you've never had a manual labour job
Or dealt with any stressful situation. I have a horrible habit of cursing like a sailor if I’m stuck in traffic or get hit with every red light when I’m trying to get somewhere on time.
Or if my computer decides to freeze or totally crap out when I need to get an important task done that day.
at least we actually know what a show made by and for slash fic writers would actually be like so all those "even fanfic writers could do a better job!!" people can finally shut up now
That's insulting to all slash fic writers, the director is not a good writer period
Its sucks because of rushed storytelling, forced jump scare musical numbers, and questionable character designs...and yeah in some episodes the swearing is too much.
>Bigger releases than Invincible and Vox Machina
>Merch store always sells out of anything that isn't print on demand
>Cinemaphile can't stop complaining about it
Seems like it's a pretty massive success anyhow, my guy
It’s a show that had the potential to be more than just a hit. They just didn’t market this to the right audience.
>She just got second place to a record breaking, unprecedented smash hit.
Wow, she's such a loser.
Digital Circus wins because it’s aimed specifically at the new generation. The whole liminal spaces, creepy clown girl crowd. They got the trends down to a T. Hazbin Hotel is already dated in comparison. Also they fricked up not making this a show that Gen Alpha can watch like TADC.
I really really want to like this show but there are just some things that are holding it back for me.
>swearing every few seconds
>not great songs carried by the singers
>what if heaven is... le bad
So many cool designs stuck in this show.
>>what if heaven is... le bad
Yeah they kinda rushed into this. The first heavenly characters we meet are Adam and Lute, who are both dicks that just want to exterminate people.
But when they actually go to heaven it's a really nice place and 90% of the angels are good hearted.
The order should have been reversed
Yeah, additionally they try to setup Adam to be some sort of master manipulator in the few scenes we see him in (uses Charlie's meeting as an excuse to investigate an angel death, tries to force the one eyed character to not make Charlie talk) only for him to instantly blurt out the extermination stuff.
This show does so many things right but it feels like they left so much basic stuff on the table.
anon it was Sera pulling strings on Adam not the other way around
Adam seems more like a puppet than a person in this show.
It's edginess is about 20 years out of date.
>"we reclaiming hell" from the Christians
You work with Amazon and A24. That's about as establishment as you can get.
and no one cares
no one watch it "for the edge"
>it is tarnished by unnecessary cringeworthy swearing.
Boo. Get new material.
This 100% could have been the next MLP if it were marketed differently towards a different audience.
No. Next Adventure Time or Steven Universe at best.
it could have been the next MLP with better writing and pacing
>doesn't believe in Charlie's dream
>arranges a meeting with heaven for her anyway just to get humiliated
He's kinda a b***h
>He's kinda a b***h
Definitely the point of his character that while he's willing to give Charlie this chance, he has absolutely no faith in the ideal not because it's from his daughter, but because Heaven is cruel.
Leak says he fights back against Heaven for his daughter so give him that at least
He only did it to separate her from Alastor, no parent wants their daughter dating the bad boy from hell.
did you not listen to ep5 second song or what
Why is he so cute bros?
lil angle
>It could have been a massive success among audiences of all ages. And yet, it is tarnished by unnecessary cringeworthy swearing.
Lol you really think little kids don't watch it.
This shit can’t even be uploaded to tiktok due to the swearing. It can’t even make money on YouTube either. She is losing out on millions of potential viewers.
>nooooooo Vivie should sell a show with sex and violence to kids!!!
Nobody said that. What was said was that there's so much swearing, there's no way to advertise the show anywhere because swearing is a no-no. If the characters were allowed to go at least 15 seconds without swearing, then Vivzie would be able to put advertisements on more platforms.
Youtube.
It's weird seeing Charlie's dad appear so early, I expected some big reveal with him late in the show but no
SONGS LEAKED
>Repeats her fathers song to her fallen angel gf
UM DADDY ISSUES?
>gf
Nice try.
A paternal song changed to a romantic song is weird
EMILYBROS WE FRICKING LOST
>emily exists
>lost
I don't FEEL like I've lost
its over emilykeks
>alastor villain arc confirmed
>ready for this
Basic as frick. Very: NARRATIVE NOW; song later.
>more than anything
>reprising trash
>finale
lmao, Pentious actually fricken' dead. Luv me some Luci tho.
>the leak of Alastor coming back from the dead with "AL!" being the only response was legit
lmao
>people speculating about dead Vs but apparently all the overlords got killed with Al almost dying too
>Vs are homosexual enough to not have the same heat as real overlords
>supposed to care about them next season because........
Really the Vs and other Overlords work best when they are opposing the progress of guests, not when they're acting as direct antagonists. Why would they start with heaven as the direct antag. Why on earth do that just to backslide to the Vs of all things?
>Why would they start with heaven as the direct antag. Why on earth do that just to backslide to the Vs of all things?
Cause Viv was afraid she'd only get 1 season so she rushed entire show's plotline. There are literal months between episodes in season 1 for frick's sake.
Sera and the Vees are working together.
Pentious was already dead. He was in hell after all. Now he's in heaven. BEST BOY WAS REDEEMED.
>no velvette
lol she's frickin dead isn't she? you hear vox and valentino singing "you and me" but no mention of her.
She's going to attack Adam or Lute and immediately job.
God I hate musical shit
You got it twisted. Hazbin has the soul of 2000s Newgrounds animation first and foremost.
The pilot does. The show not so much.
I can get behind that.
Post Angel Dust
You should be fricking allowed to fricking swear as much as you fricking want in a fricking preschool cartoon.
YOU SAID SO MANY SWEARS!
Frick you.
GASP! I'm going to tell the jannies!
>implying they care you
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Never watched this shit only jacked off to a couple doomguy pics with the main character from this show a few years ago. I gotta say however that I have no idea how to people apparently like the Angel Dust character. His design is absolutely hideous
>Charlie is talking about how Alastor sacrificed himself
>Alastor even sarcastically says "Great Alastor altruist died for his friends" in his part
>Pentious just so happens to not speak, or gets redeemed which is why he isn't in the song
This is our one and only hope Pentchads, I'm scared.
Probably redeemed now that you mention it rather than dead. Charlie specifically mentions that they have proof of redemption this time - I suppose that means he ascends.
If you listen closely in the Finale song, you can hear him sing along with Angel and Nifty.
>preteen cartoon
Imagine actually thinking that such thing exists in 2024. Kids nowadays watch some random youtube minecraft videos rather than cartoon
Wait what? All the overlords are dead? What the frick was the point of introducing them then , especially carmine
HA. Ha. ha...
Just let them be what they are, roadblocks to redemption instead of whatever the frick the S2 V's are going to be after the 'power vacuum'.
Somehow I don't think other people not pressuring them is going to make them capable of manufacturing angelic weapons or whatever else.
>Just let them be what they are, roadblocks to redemption
Oh no i agree. Really the exploration of main characters should have been the start. I'd say the overlords should be foils to individual cast members. Maybe mirroring eachother to an extent.
Have Angel Dust for example lean onto his criminal mafioso past as a coping mechanism and to feel like he has some control over his life. Extorting and manipulating other hotel residents (that is if there was anyone beside him there other than Pentious), becoming similar to Val in the process. His arc could be overcoming the cycle he's in after introspection about what he's doing.
Give Vox some sort of esoteric angle to mirror Alastor's voodoo shit. He's a tele-evangelist and said to be a cult leader. Could make him a Mason or whatever. An opposite to Alastor's more solitary practice and where Vox focuses on mass manipulation of the masses Alastor focuses on individuals like Husk.
There's a hotel counterpart for Velvette missing. Maybe Crymini? that is if she wasn't scrapped.
To show that Adam is indeed powerful, Lucifer and others cannot stop him (foreshadowing how broken Eve will be), but Vaggie and Charlie somehow use the power of the love to somehow win over his heart.
Here is my guess for what is going to happen
-Adam/Pentious dies
- Zestial dies because...I guess.
- Rosie and Alastor do cool stuff and it's super played up for people to hype about on twitter because jingling keys impresses them too.
- Sera doesn't kick out Emely. Emely banishes Sera to another place or some shit like purgatory which is treated as some beyond void no one can go to or some stupid fricking reason
- Emely tells Charlie she will push for the reform stuff and allow true souls to reach heaven if they can prove a years worth of time of improving instead of exterminations.
- Set up for season 2 is the Vs creating a campaign against this stating that it is a trap and that the angels are still planning to exterminate sinners if they attempt redemption and try to push an uprising themselves [excuse for another heaven mission where we get to see Heaven changed a bit and people their disagreeing with how to handle this and wondering if Adam was right.]
OR
Charlie sings a song and super saiyan blasts at Adam with her not sailor moon power of love beam.
Either way this shit is going to be over and all we gotta do is deal with one more week of people over praising it before another Lackadaisy short or TADC turns out another short to steal it's thunder.
Anon, they literally announced a season two before even starting production on Season 1. Harley Quinn was never close to this show's popularity and has 5 seasons. They can easily drag this out for another 6 years minimum
yes anon I know that. Everyone knows that. We have known that for the past year. What I am getting at is this is the set up for the season 2.
I think Charlie is going to go demon mode and beat Adam. However Sera will finally step in, and convinces Charlie to not kill him after heavy pushing from Emily. The Hotel is given an actual chance and the exterminations are suspended for the time being
Anon, Adam is totally gonna die. He is absurdly evil. You can hope Lute survives(though probably still losing an eye) but Adam is comically evil he can't logically live.
Killing Adam kills Lute. And killing Lute kills Adam. It also makes the relationships between saints and sinners super awful if the princess of Hell kills their literal grandpa.
>The Hotel is given an actual chance and the exterminations are suspended for the time being
Frick that, The hotel doesn't matter, it never mattered the show just fricking terrible.
Saying now, Emily will get Adam ban from heaven and Sera will send him to charlie as a punishment to both
I don’t think Charlie can do a damn thing to Adam. But they find out that something was wrong the exorcist and they use the radio tower at the hotel to destabilize it.
will adina be in
I think that Viv pretty much turned her into Sera
Who?
How much longer till the episode drops?
Figure 2 hours at the earliest
>After the battle
>Masterless cattle
>Overlords hanging by a thread
>With a bit of rebuttal, maybe tomorrow
>We'll atop the heap
>While the rest of hell's pissing, Alastor's missing
>Fled with his tail between his legs
>Nature of hordes, a power vacum
>It leaves room for you and me
>The future of hell, it belongs to the Vees
Holy frick the finale song does a great job at setting up the Vees as the next antagonists for S2 but for the love of fricking god i hope they do something good with them
How are the Vees a threat?
They control the media and with a power gap could easily manipulate an army
Well the leaks say something about pride opening up to the rest of the rings of hell and if the Vees can get a better reach of their media influence that means they technically control what hell's sinners and denizens think. Now, if all the overlords got a big hit during the fight and only the vees remain that means that suddendly all of those previously owned souls are up for the taking, which could make them crazy powerful.
Now i do think Lucifer and Charlie are still their major problems but imagine for a second that they manage to out them as the weak leaders they are to the rest of hell. After all Lucifer barely knows his overlords guessing by the fact that he doesn't know Alastor even though he was a prominent figure in hell until recent times, and Charlie is just... Charlie, she didn't even stand up to Valentino for Angel when she could destroy him, because she's not the fighting type. That can change in the finale but they could destroy their image, making the people lose respect for them and the Hotel.
Im not saying they have to be strong power-wise, they can become strong and a menace in the way that hell perceives the current hierarchy. That could be an interesting plot, maybe Lucifer and Charlie can beat by a landslide your regular overlord, but what if all of Hell's rings start going against them?
So Adam and Lucifer made some kind of deal.
I don't think Adam dies
I think she unironically died bros.... Either that or something else happened
Adam answers to Sera, he's not going to be making any deals unless it's on her orders.
I just said i dont think Adam dies, nothing about a deal. At least going by the song leaks and the images that are out there's nothing pointing at Adam dying
Adam will stick it to her
yeah the mental gymnastics from you guys are pretty funny.
And yet Velvette doesn't get to sing
>People are worried about Adam
>Velvette is the one killed
God I can't wait!
Voxsisters....
But also I can wait
They likely will frick it up next season
but that's okay this is great place to leave off on fanfic wise and I already have ideas and I can't wait to read what other people write too
Wait, so the Vees baited the overlords into fighting the war so they can take the sinners for themselves?
Pretty likely going by the fact that the Vees talk about making a power grab now that the other overlords are "hanging by a thread" (which is implying the heavy hitters like alastor are out of comission or plainly dead). Also there's that clip of Vox laughing while sipping coffee and saying "they're all gonna die" in the season 1 trailer. I don't think they fought in the war
Vox given heaven the technology to brainwash Adam and the newly created exorcist. Of course he is safe from the exterminations. Remember, the Vees baited the overlords into fighting the Exorcist in the first place.
They probably recruited other high tier overlords who got taken out in the battle while the Vees laid low
I'm gonna do it anons
I'm gonna overdose on cope that Adam/Pentious make it out of this somehow
>Adam is alive and well
>Adam is alive and will survive
>Adam is alive and will plot his comeback
>Adam is alive and we'll get his backstory
>Adam is alive and will avenge Lute
>Adam is alive and we'll get confirmation on why he has golden wings
>Adam is alive and im not coping
Only an hour and a half left Pentbros...I accept the best character of the show is going to die but damn I'm clinging to that tad bit of hope.
He's in the finale song, he's fine.
Post the fricking timestamp when he speaks right fricking now.
>Adam doesn't die
If that is the case I am going to say she misses a golden opportunity for a great joke.
Lute diesAdam is obviously pissed and needs a second in command but he realizes he can't use women anymore because he becomes too attached and let's face it....bitches aren't that great of job doers. He needs a bro. He creates a new friend that is just as bro as him.
Names himSteve
Frick you.
>morons want all the villains to basically die
What a boring show that would be, Viv is a moron so I'm sure she will do that.
Vox and Valentino at the very least are confirmed to survive
Wait so do all the Overlords expect the Vees die or just some of them?
does anyone know a website to stream the series for free when it releases? i know kimcartoon but its so ad and pop-up ridden its pretty unusable for me and i can't use adblock as the website just stops working and tells me not to use it. HELP?
Use ublock origin on firefox
thank you for the info works like a charm
If the Vees are the big bads for S2 im guessing it's a more small scale season. S1 was about proving the Hotel can work and providing an ending that could of been satisfying if they only got one season, S2 is about it well.. doing so while the Vee's also do some Hell Power Politics and yeah their a threat but their not the on the level of the Exorcist Army.
>If the Vees are the big bads for S2 im guessing it's a more small scale season.
No. They are glowies working with Heaven.
>Voxmask Schizo Anon is still at it
I dunno if you're faking it which is the best part but please never give this up
Unfortunately, I’m not. This character will be the season 2 true villain, guarantied.
Sir Pentious and Stolas should hang out just to trade hats for a day.
NOOOOOOOOOO not the HECKIN' CUSSERINOS!
Not the ding dang swear words!
I can't believe they go around using POTTY MOUTH in this heckin' show about heck!
How am I supposed to pretend Charlie's a pure, snow-white virgin with a delicate azalea-colored vaginerooni when she's saying bad words?????
Dumbest posts about this show by far. You all most likely swear worse in your day to day life. Even if you don't, you hear worse all the time unless you just literally don't go outside. Stop acting so ridiculous.
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So Carmilla also gets a solo song towards Vaggie.
From what I can take from it I guess the secret to killing angels is fighting with Virtue and for others?
I think the deeper meaning is that rhe sinners cannot defeat Adam with their power, but from love.
Charlie and Vaggie are totally gonna do some Lesbian Magic aren't they?
Yes. That’s what the leaker said. Considering that it’s Adam, a man who still simped for Eve after she became a sinner, it would work and potentially get him to go 100% on Lute.
Why do Carmilla and Vaggie know each other
they don't. That duet song is stupid. It's supposed to be a side by side comparison for some reason of Vaggie and Carmilla's dedication to people they love and want to protect.
We don't know, wait till the episode drops.
Because they’re angels. Carmine likely knows more about pre-extermination Adam than Vaggie does.
wait is Carmine ALSO going to be a Fallen Angel?
Yes.
Then how the hell does she have kids? Is she a mortal that went to Heaven, became an exterminator and then for some reason degraded to Hell? Did her kids fell with her or they were already in Hell to begin with? This shit is so confusing.
Because she simped for a sinner.
She's pretty clearly into Zestial.
Granted it's hard to resist James Monroe Eagleharts voice.
No it doesn't.
Did the ep drop?
Hour and a half, anon..
>Digital Circus
Won't go anywhere. Nobody cares about it. Also some people just swear a lot. Bogan Australia exists
When and where is the eppp? I need to check on Adam and Pent
1 hour 8 minutes
its 8 minutes anon. 5:00 Central
Plus two hours for whoever uploads them to mega or some other godawful site.
1 hour
Not in my prime account at least
Looks like you're wrong anon
whre is the "live stream" if there is one?
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I'd have to agree. The jokes aren't good enough for me to consider it adult. It's do far a very basic story about redemption, and that didn't need an adult rating.
Would you touch his parts?
Goth daughters
I notice a pattern here-- whenever its getting close to the release of the episodes you guys complain like crazy about how shit the series is/the characters/songs etc but right after the episodes come out you guys flood the catalog with fanart and go on about how good the series 'actually' is lol. Is it anticipation jitters? It's not just this series btw. Like every single show on here.
Anons in general tend to be very tsundere about many things.
That's Cinemaphile in a nutshell when there's a show it pretends to be divisive about, this same shit happened with Steven Universe, Owl House, etc. etc. It gets 'hated' on to be cool, and either genuinely annoying fans or falseflaggers pretending to love it defend it for (You)s.
Just like what you wanna like anons, anyway, can't wait for the megas.
Yeah but this show actually sucks
Could it use writing touchups despite the fact it's episode count seems to be the primary cause for it's pacing?
Absolutely, even with the breakneck pace, there was just some scenes like in Episode 2 that could have been retooled entirely, hell, I don't think we needed to be introduced to Velvette or Val as hard as we were in that episode, their scenes in later episodes were serviceable enough to show how dickish they are.
Does it suck?
Nah, the show is alright. It's just not a masterpiece like what Viv obnoxiously parades around, but there is genuinely bad shows out there and this ain't one of them, it's just another show where there's obvious potential it cannot grasp because of issues within and out of it's control.
Kill off Adam, and the show dies.
He only shows up in 2 episodes anon, and the first appearance was his best one. The second appearance is where he genuinely becomes a joke that lost most of his fanbase because he got absolutely clowned on even with his own logic.
He's a great introductory main antagonist, but it's clear after Lute took off her mask, she's suppose to develop through his defeat and pay it off in a future Season.
Plus, we've known about Adam's death for weeks now, and that's not exactly something that's kept to just Cinemaphile either given where ntsg is.
It's the same shit with Vaggie being an angel. We all saw this shit coming. We all knew about it for the first four fricking years because it was so easy to see. There was even buttholes coming here saying that was schizoid fanfic level shit and yet it turned out to be true.
No, Black person. The whole point of heaven was for us to know our fricking sky daddy, Jesus of Nazareth!!!!! To kill off the only Adam; the only image of God, is satanic to all shit and turns heaven from paradise to pure ass fricking cancerous materialisms.
Frick Lilith.
Frick Lucifer.
Frick Charlie.
Adam is our true father and I will not accept any other one!
Even though Adam would not accept your ass.
Yes he will, because I hate the world and desire it all to burn.
Adam hates Sinners, not Earth.
He'd just find you to be some whiny b***h emo.
Sinners are born on earth, die there, and die endlessly in hell where they belong.
You don’t understand how it works, but I do, and I say, frick the earth. Jesus also hates the earth and he isn’t some stupid emo. He is love itself.
Oh and you've been to hell and know how it works-oh wait you're on Cinemaphile. I guess you do know.
I am a Christian, a cell of one powerful woman amalgamation that will either put you to her bosom or destroy you.
I know this system because God is the one giving me the information, you half baked troll.
MEDS. NOW.
No Meds. Horrifying amalgamation entities are real and the churches compose and organize the cells of Christ’s bride.
I’m so tired of this shit of “demons good” and “God/Adam bad”, but you fricking homosexual.
Bro I will feed your your meds like a mother fricker forces it down their dogs throat if you keep saying schizo level religious babble
No. God will destroy you and eat you alive with the worms inside of your body. Hahahaha.
That is a real curse I can enforce when you keep trying to stab me back to the world.
Shouldn't you be busy installing sexy roblox mods because it's the only way you can get porn without being shackled inside a barn with a psalm book?
I’m an artist. I had to learn self-control.
Good. Next step is to have the self-control to abstain from thinking cult logic will appeal to anyone.
Christ doesn’t appeal to anyone. He takes the good and kills the rest.
Spoiler: New testament Christ would actually like me more because I'm far less judgemental.
Your god was a hippy.
>thinking about meds
NGMI
this is a christian imageboard, keep your psycho pedors elsewhere.
oof
>Frick Charlie
TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN SHIT TALK LILITH AND LUCIFER BUT YOU DO NOT INSULT THAT PRECIOUS BEING
>Does it suck?
Yeah like all the dick Angel Dust sucked
>can't wait for the megas
That is if we even get those.
There are parts we like
We can hate the whole thing
I think Viv is a shit writer
I'm just here for the good parts and to thirstpost for my husbands
Kinda surprised this is sort of the maturity moment in fandoms in general. Noticing people who like HB saying they hate how the pacing is and they don't like the direction it was going along with the voice cast drop. Mainly, they just don't like Vivzie's bullshit decisions and drama but they don't wanna drop the show.
We went from JK Rowling era "You can't seperate the creator from the medium" to "The creator is a fricking dumbass and there was potential here we hope can be fixed"
>"..and there was potential here we hope can be fixed"
And then you get into the juicy bits where they'll take it into their own hands otherwise for good or bad results alike.
For me personally anon there's not a lot I get to enjoy anymore outside of stuff I make myself
I hate most western creators these days anyway because they are woke and moronic and post way too much personal shit on social media--basically what Viv does
Can't enjoy anime or JP media anymore because of politically motivated "localizers"
But these characters and the setting, broken as they are, are comfy to me and remind me of some of the things I made in high school that likely won't see the light of day in my other works
The fandom already has taken things into their own hand while waiting on the series
This whole fandom takes a buffet approach
Build your own plate of the lore and pieces you do like, make up stuff to replace what you don't like or otherwise isn't there, and don't actually care too much about the base canon
Viv has constantly retconned shit, changed her mind, contradicted herself
She's a shit person and a backstabber at that
I'll never buy a prime or financially support the official store for this show
But I will have fun with it because it brings me some joy and I can do that for free
If I really want merch there's a plethora of fanmade pieces that are better than the official shit imo
I hate troony culture so don't give a frick about JK Rowling and she's not a good writer either just someone who got lucky
That said I don't think Viv is going to fix shit
I'm with this anon
That is honestly how i've been feeling for a while now, in anticipation for the show coming out amindst all the drama regarding the absolute state that is Helluva Boss, Viv having consistent meltdowns on twitter, delays and old VA crew getting sacked. And after the show came out with multitude of problems of shit pacing, new VA's being mostly a downgrade and questionable writing all around.
One thought that kept appearing
>"It could have been great."
The pilot was rough around the edges but had a huge potential for more mature story telling exploring the concept of redemption, human nature and hope with a side of spirituality. Likeable, interesting and unque characters and just enough lore to keep people speculating and theorising.
The actual show didn't live to the expectations both positive and negative. It wasn't an unmitigated distaster but it also isn't very good and Viv doesn't seemed to improve her writing at all.
With fanfictions people write consistently having better writing than the actual show. To the point people described helluva boss as feeling like "fanfiction of itself".
Perhaps the real Happy Hotel was the one we made ourselves with blackjack and spider hookers and good writing.
>To the point people described helluva boss as feeling like "fanfiction of itself".
Holy fricking kek
I didn't indulge in this fandom for the longest time because of the reasons mentioned before but after the leaked episodes I went down the hole rabbit hole and I started reading fics and noticing that a lot of them took the approach of focusing on the hotel, even the reader insert ones, and they were so much fun that I forgot I originally went in wanting smut
Then when I did get to it, the payoff was much better and it felt like the authors were on some professional outlining shit and not just making it up as they went along
I'm not used to other fic writers doing that so wow I bet we've got some other professionals around
There's a whole four to five month timeskip in this show that I'll take advantage of with my own writing and change things around because I feel like it at this point
Unironically this show feels like an abridged fanfic of a fanfic that did the hotel premise better
I've never had any hope that Viv could take criticism after seeing her twitter meltdowns she wants nothing but yes men and big names to do her bidding
We've been doing these threads for three fricking weeks...how the frick are you guys messing up the time by now that these things get on amazon as well not understanding how fast someone uploads them to mega or somewhere else?
>Less than 45 minutes until he dies
I'm going to be so fricking mad.
Hopefully we get to see heaven's reaction to the pathetic jobbing
30 MINUTES
I wonder if Viv throws temper tantrums if/when she sees posts like these. The slightest inch of mockery or criticism that gets traction gets under her skin. She really seems insufferable to talk to.
If Viv thinks she can write Lute without an Adam, that b***h can perish from her delusions.
she can't even write vegana with Charlie
And she does it anyway Becuase she’s a dumb c**t and Christ abandons the wicked and let’s them crumble on themselves.
Treating Adam like a person to throw away makes it clear that your own character is pure darkness itself.
Did this show just come out or something? Why am i suddenly seeing it everywhere
>Did this show just come out or something?
Yeah, two weeks ago. Which answers your other question too.
I am glad this show hasn't made anyone crazy.
I held it all in for this moment, anon. To burn this show alive.
God fricking dammit, it's showtime, why isn't it there?!
It's LIVE!
>uploading takes 30 mins/hour?
And the up loaders probably likes to see people freak out about not having it yet.
We will probably get a dozen screenshots of episode before we get ep link.
Those screenshots are soon, i'm sure.
>Adam dickslaps Charlie in their fight
Weird route for Viv to take, but I don't mind it
Well he did say he was the dickmaster
Let's goooooo
Click next episode on episode 6 to unlock it, if it's not showing up on the menu
Aight I'm out until I can pirate it
how the frick do you put fullscreen in this shitty app without the overlays the things never go away
Hopefully someone will put them on Mega this time. Other links are so full of ads and iffy downloads!
That German website serienstream dot to had them before kimcartoon last week
They've been pretty reliably uploaded.
Don't forget the decoders.
They’re uploading
https://serienstream.to/serie/stream/hazbin-hotel/staffel-1/episode-7
https://serienstream.to/serie/stream/hazbin-hotel/staffel-1/episode-8
Episode 7 is now up
https://serienstream.to/redirect/13722722
>https://serienstream.to/serie/stream/hazbin-hotel/staffel-1/episode-8
ty anon
Thank you!! 🙂
I think I just gave my computer aids.
Mega stinks, catbox, streamable, gofile, anonfiles, mediafire and others are better.
And obviously encode the links
I feel like that post should maybe not be public with amazon lawyers watching this thread...
So, Carmine just decided to heelturn and help them for... reasons?
Did Vaggie seem convincing within the 2 minute time frame she was given?
To celebrate the finale, I also did an AI cover for Hide Away, Charlie Morningstar version
https://litter.catbox.moe/mbzgdf.mp3
If you want the original pilot voice, check here
https://litter.catbox.moe/rixop8.mp3
Cherri is so sexy bros
Okay, I'll forgive how shite Pentious' death was for that ending. Got. Dayum. And frankly, the first thing you see after dying being Emily is my idea of heaven, too, so it fits.
im really suprised that adam wasnt ugly
>Cherri seeing how corruptible the poor angel snake is at her mercy
>Arrives to find Pentious fricking both Emily and Sera with his two dicks.
>Shoves them away to get her long waited double treat
SIR PENTIOUS FRICKS LETS GO
Sir Pentious bros... we did it
Remember kids
Don't do drugs
Don't have sexual intercourse before marriage
And do your homework and you'll get into heaven.
It's almost a metaphor for Stamper getting his shit right and getting into the industry
Our special slithery little guy did it!
so in other words, redemption is possible and requires actual self-sacrifice, and not just being good a few times, which means charlie was partially mistaken in thinking that it was something she could rush out in the span of 6 months
Interesting to note he went right for the Seraphines and not to Peter's gate.
There was a theory I saw of his connection to Seraphines for being a snake, so maybe that one dude was right. Can't find it now but I swear I saw people linking the Seras to him.
Kinda hope by the end we see the sinners stripped of their sinner forms and see them as humans again.
Nah because the justification willl be that keeping their former demon forms is a testament of their "redemption"or something along those lines. Angel Angel (lol get it) will still look like his spider form but with a more heavenly color palette.
my boy's alive and redeemed
THAT'S WHAT I'M FRICKING TALKING ABOUT BABY!
All part of God's plan baby!
Velvet's PJs were pretty cute
Hazbin Hotel did well so Amazon is gonna fast track this right? We won't have to wait 3+ years right? This won't be an Invincible? Right??
with how simple the animation is i doubt it
With how much Vivzie is gonna throw ideas at her team at Spindlehorse? In fact, I bet some of them are watching and seeing the twitter reactions and hating it. Knowing she is going to go OVERBOARD with more shitty ideas they can't say no to.
>Vivzie seeing people like the characters she hates
>she is already thinking how to ruin them for S2
lmao imagine
Depends on how long it's been since they started animation and stuff.
If the VAs are recording, it's likely that there's some plot outlines and storyboarding done.
Then id guess year to year and a half.
Scripts and boards are done, and voice acting can be theoretically finished in 1-2 months (if they can get all the VAs), Songs are also definitely finished by this point, so that's another list checked.
But animation will take time, especially with how many characters there are, the musical numbers and the constant cutting. I can't see them being finished any point this year.
i dont even think amking the first season took 3 years most of the time was getting deals with amazon
the animation isnt so complex it will take that long
Well it's not just the deal making, when your creating a show first season you gotta do casting for EVERYONE, you gotta set up your production pipeline and a whole host of other stuff that takes a long time you generally don't have to repeat for future seasons unless something crazy happens.
5 years since the pilot aired
This doesn't feel like the split season that most animated things end up in. They'll wait to see the numbers than restart production. Without a several season order it's gonna be slow. Especially since the cast is big broadway names now.
Yeah this season was kinda rushed specifically because.. they had no idea if they were getting more and they wanted it to have an actual ending that would work as a series finale.. with a plot hook if they got picked up for more basically.
That said I think it took like a year, year and a half after the Pilot for it to be picked up and production is already ongoing on S2, their currently recording so they must at least already be pretty decently into boarding and stuff like that.
they didnt get picked up for a show for a good few years after the pilot aired
Definitely. Also, it was ready to release in 2023, A24 or Amazon just pushed the release date for some reason.
It's number 8 in my country.
Invincible was complicated by being an action show, being hour long episodes, and other probably behinds the scenes shit with VAs. Hazbin is a 22 min episode with the most complicated animation being dancing choreography. Not to mention there's only 200~ animators at the company making invincible. If I were to guess they were working on season 2 and 3 so the wait is shorter between 2 and 3 than it would be if they worked on season 2 then 3. Don't quote me on it
I hope you're right anon.
>dancing choreography
This is the worry for me, Pumping out two songs an episode ain't quick.
Also Invincible mixes stuff up but generally follows the comic. They have to sit down and plot this shit out. Including arcs for if they expect one season or two seasons more.
Season 3 was greenlit after season 1. Invincible still held public attention after the long ass break between 1 & 2. Sure the mid season hiatus hurts a bit but I'm certain attention will come back once it begins airing again. With that I won't be surprised if a season 4 or 5 get greenlit and the entire comic run is adapted with some reimagined plot points/side stories. Optimism is nice but it's also important to be realistic.
>Lute rips off her own arm
Was the debris made out of angel weapons
>when they see your 2 dicks
>Scores a kiss with Cyclops aussie
>Falls in glorious battle against the leader of the angelic forces that took down Alastor
>Proves Deer gay the frick wrong by redeeming himself and getting into Heaven
>Now gets to plow two seraph babes all day
Our boy won so fricking hard bros
Yeah it's almost incredible how fricking hard Pentious won.
>Sir Pentious banging the hotties of Heaven
>Lucifer clowned all over Adam
>Jobastor crying about how "muh deal and input lag"
LMAO
Bu-Bu-But Radio is still King!
that's how you know his shitty death was worth
pouring one out for my boy
Sir Pentious went from what was planned to be a one off gag character to the character that proves the hotel works and thus one of the most important characters in the ENTIRE STORY.
Dude is winning so hard.
Not to mention his two dicks
leaked epilogue song
https://files.catbox.moe/j3f96c.mp3
https://vocaroo.com/1dc7eAT4wXzf
Godamn it you got me
viv would NEVER
Sinners are immortal and have regen so what do the cannibals eat? If you can respawn it's more ethical than eating animals tbh.
Rosie is a cutie
Pour one out for best boy Cinemaphile
At least he beat Alastor.
ngl it was cool to see him get taken down a peg, and I actually like the guy
Adam sweeped and only lost to Lucifer himself, which is honestly fair since its fricking Lucifer. Kinda hope his is not dead dead
MEGABROS WHERE ARE YOU
Vivzie already sent the hit squads.
Come on megabros. I believe in you.
Out of all the leaks, Pentious death was genuinely just insulting.
Adam definitely had it coming though, it was not as much of a gag as the leaker made it out to be.
the moment Adam started talking shit i knew the leak was real
Same, but honestly deserved, leaker conveniently left out the royal assbeating he gets beforehand.
I was imagining she just fricking instantly ends the fight right when they're about to get wrecked but nah, they beat his ass in first.
seeing Alastor job so fricking hard to Adam and Lucifer just play around and not take Adam serious was funny as shit, hell the only reason he didn't win harder was Adam targetting Charlie and still failing hard against CHADifer
Pentious's death was hilarious and would have been just as funny if he didn't come back
it was NOT funny, it was TRAUMATIZING
You better stick to books. No picture books, either.
Make sure you have a responsible adult check the book first to make sure it is safe for you to read.
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah no.
Don't get it but ok spam mega more
I will
>first man, next to die
went kind of hard i can't lie
nevermind he jobbed immediately after
JOBastors sisters...
Noooooooooo. Alastor is continental-level destructive power.
I love it when characters act ignorant of Alastor.
He's wiggin out bros, he's finally at his breaking point
BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN
SHINING
JUSTICE
MEBAETEEEEEE
that entire scene was insanely well animated
Honestly if my entire self image was based on being in control and on top of everything at all times, and I got beat so hard by a generic rock star douche stereotype that I had to hide away for a while, I'd be in crisis too.
Is Lute in charge of Heaven now? Or in charge of what exactly
The exorcist army id assume.
God would be in charge of Heaven, though still essentially no mention of him which from what I’ve seen.
Lucifer mentions him in ONE line though not directly or explicitly
No God in Hazbin. Sera's the big dick in heaven. Outside of the pilot there's no crosses or nothing. Angels made Adam.
So what was the deal she made with Lilith then?
I know the meme is we have to hate vegana because of the lesbian shit, and Lute because angelic cute and perfect...but this moment, I was like "whatever you say mommy" GOD FRICKING DAMNIT, we may meme her as a cuckqueen but she'll take it like a champ
shame she is still a shit character
>she won because she was fighting for Love
>Lute lost because she was fighting for Love
I doubt it's Sera, and if it's Sera, she's just one of six.
No. Lute and Adam planned for Adam to die. For Adam to save his children and defeat Roo.
>Lute lost because she was fighting for Love
Carmilla specifically points out that Vaggie will lose if she fights for revenge. Lute fought for revenge first and love second, so she lost.
I assume the golden blood is meant to reference Greek God blood as in Ichor.
She has good solo character moments sometimes
>That snoze
Ugly israelite
I wanna give fat Adam a squeeze.
Loved seeing Alastor be humbled and swear villainy, he has earned his fame and is more than just a tumblr sexy man. I wish he was the main character instead of Charlie, he's far more interesting.
Agreed. He's not the best written character, but he has a lot going for him. Any writer worth his salt would have a ton to work with.
He's way better written than 80% of the cast just by how he can easily make engaging rivalries with anyone he fights. I wouldn't have liked Lucifer at all if it wasn't for how he seethed at Alastor being a better dad.
He's even cuter when he's angry and having a tantrum.
Oh god...looking back to it...Pentious having all the fricking eyes all over was foreshadowing that he was going to become a fricking angel
Doubt it considering thats how he looked in the pilot and was originally meant to be a one off
Vaggie was suposed to be a "Sinner" but turns out the foreshadowing for her being an Angel was there from the fricking pilot too
okay maybe im just moronic, still kind of feels like a reach though
I mean think about it this way, maybe in their writing room (because people think this was all written by Viv when in reality it was the studio and their writers) they looked at Pentious's design, saw the eyes then saw the angels and the eyes and went "you know what, let's have HIM become the angel"
okay you've convinced me
that would be funny as frick
>This show is a travesty.
its a fun travesty though
>its a fun travesty though
It's definitely fun to shit on it. It's like watching a big bonfire except it happens to be a whole show.
holy shit, you're actually right, this hot garbage wasn't Viv, we just want to say it was because we have to hate her for being a woman. But this was all written by the fricking Studio that bought the damn right. frick, I gotta go process this
Wait, it wasn't glaringly obvious to you that she was an Angel from the get-go? They did a very piss-poor job of greying her back story.
Angels were kind of the underdogs in the fight weren't they?
I thought there were supposed to be hundreds of thousands of them. Why did they only send ten lol?
They were only sieging one building, why wouldn't they only enlist a few?
I'm counting more than 10 on the retreat, and we saw plenty dying on screen. So it wasn't just "ten" I know we're trying to grasp at straws to find a a flaw, but as the anon mentioned, It was only one building they were targeting, and besides Lute in Episode 1 mentions she killed 200+ sinners herself. Each Exterminator can take 100 sinners easily (when they're not fighting back that is)
Alastor did bring up that shield which helped them split the horde up and manage their numbers, there where plenty of bodies at the end so just because we only saw Pentious die doesn't mean that a bunch of the Cannibals' didn't
GIMME DA MEGA LINKS NAO!
whoops, quoted the post from the last thread.
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Use base64decode.org to get the mega.
Thanks a bunch Anon.
Any chance you have episodes 5 and 6?
I couldn't get them before the megas died.
Hang tight, I'll put 5/6 up there too, it'll just take a bit to upload.
You're an absolute champion Anon, thank you.
Have a vintage Charlie.
I kneel.
Amir is a strange looking goblin of a man
>And yet, it is tarnished by unnecessary cringeworthy swearing.
Turns out that didn't stop people from liking it.
>Muh premier
Cool, now show the rest of the numbers cowards
numbers for the rest are solid all the way through. Yes being a contrarian is fun, shitting on stuff other people like and giving a chud opinion for the memes and the lels is "le fahnny". But unfortunately for you, the show isn't bad. It's not Emmy levels though they will get nomiated and probably win for the sing songs etc. Yes it's fun to write lelel soh fahnni ebin meme saying the show is bad and frick viv and all that. But in the end, It's being enjoyed by more people than just (you)
*yawn*
arcanexisters... we won
i like arcane way more than this show but come on, rotten tomatoes reviews mean nothing
I know but it's funny to post shit like this.
Big Mouth was better recieved by critics of all things.But Hazbin Hotel is far closer to Big Mouth than say Invincible or Arcane.
Based, this show is complete shit in comparison its embarrassing.
Also, the show this is "mogging" on still got better reviews.
Surprisingly, people can like more than one thing. Go figure.
People who Like Viv's work don't have good taste.
>"People who Like Viv's work don't have good taste."
>He says, on a Hazbin Hotel thread.
yeah i can pop into any thread and just say you're all stupid for enjoying this trash.
Damn those goats got fricking obliterated
Even after Charlie and Vaggie declared love for one another, I still ship Radiobelle.
I drew something silly while waiting for the episodes to leak. It hurts.
My man.
This is good stuff anon I really like it
Good job and I giggled
I want Alastor to spank me too
>top right
>pleakley
oh, I'm dying
wheres the vox mask schizo
i miss him
>"Someone named is going to die!"
>it's a fricking background character
>oh and all actual stakes are gone
How are there no stakes now? There’s still several villains and plot lines unresolved?
Did anyone else feel the animation was way more fluid this episode than usual? Did they get help from another studio or have some top animators working with them?
So.. wait..
A sinner in Hell can be sent to Heaven, if their soul is redeemed and they are then true-killed by an angelic weapon? Like Pentious?
Okay, so when sinners go to the Hotel they have to redeem themselves to be eligible to go to Heaven. Then what? Is Charlie going to give everyone angelic weapons and then tell them all to commit ritualistic mass suicide with them? This shit is moronic.
You can tell they didn't think about this at all, the writing overall is so atrocious. This show is a travesty.
Dafuq
What does an angelic weapon have to do with it?
Also, Pentious was laser-beamed.
Everyone is (rightfully) confused why he honestly showed up with Em and Sera rather than at Heaven's gates or something.
I'm subscribing for now that he actually managed to luck out and get Adam's position (again, he shouldn't, but given Pentious might not appear again due to the VA not confirming their return), I'd be fine if it was true off screen.
because St. Peter and the Gates of Heaven are meant for people who die on earth. Hell > Heaven redemption takes you straight to the "interview" / "on boarding" room with Em and Sera
Yeah, but I'm assuming that getting laz0r beamed by an Angel still means getting true-killed, no? Otherwise they wouldn't have mourned Pentious or think he was actually dead, because if a sinner dies to "normal" means they just get put back together in Hell.
Why would you assume that in the first place?
Is getting "getting laz0r beamed" a "normal" means of death?
>Is Charlie going to give everyone angelic weapons and then tell them all to commit ritualistic mass suicide with them
>Charlie makes everyone drink the angelic kool aid
>Hazbin Hotel Jonestown mass-suicide
kek
>the gif
double-kek
Alternatively if this theory is true,
>Heaven decides to hole up and hunker down now the demons know how to kill angels
>Inadvertently making the slim chance of redemption utterly impossible
>Charlie's goals for the hotel go from "save demons from being killed by angels" to "beg some brave angel to come to the hotel and work as the designated redeemed demon-stabber"
I'm shocked how actually decent Hellva Boss' first season was compared to its second season and this first season. What the frick happened?
Viv licked corporate dick and drank the cum off it and it fricked her up real good.
Must have had powdered sugar on it.
Isn't suicide a sin?
It is
>Jobs to Adam
>Gets upstaged by Lucifer saving Charlie
>Everyone now knows he’s not actually a 9999/9999 health pool Gary stu, making everyone less afraid of him.
>Lucifer (who everyone speculates he’s the b***h of) is now coming down to hell personally to check on shit.
Oh he mad.
And he cute when he mad
It's Newgrounds without heart or talent.
*without daring to be truly edgy or talent
FTFY, some of my favourite Newgrounds animations had zero heart but plenty of style.
why are you homosexuals not talking about this. Alastor looking to unclip his wings I think? So he's from heaven looking to become a demon or what?
Alastor won btw.
>Gets sliced to pieces by Angelic sword
>"I didn't know angels could be killed with their own weapons"
Who wrote this garbage?
A fat moron, and another fat moron. The writing and plot coherency really is awful.
well, had any angels been killed with their own weapons yet?
The wings were ripped off.
The eye, I'm not seeing it. It was perfectly plucked out with a swipe of the sword, no visible damage to the globe.
well, there was this one time...
I immediately thought of this. I wouldn’t be shocked if this was the inspiration for the weapons idea.
Vaggie wasn't killed, and her eye was somehow still intact after being removed by a sword.
It's also possible she thought that it being an angel wielding the weapon made the difference.
lute will revenge rape vaggie in s2 with shapeshifted male reproductive organs as a loophole for vile and blasphemous lesbianism
That would be such bad writing haha right like what if she impregnated her and Charlie had to raise the child haha
Stupid fricking Vivziepoop haha is this a leak or something? She'd definitely write something that dumb I think
I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE I LOVE LUTE
So any speculation on the specitic criteria for going to heaven?
True love's kiss?
Heroic sacrifice?
What is Digital Circiut and why is it being shilled
It's more popular than the Hazbin pilot, why would it need to be shilled?
More people agreeing that that Digital Circus is good while more people agreeing that Hazbin Hotel is shit =/= shilling
Considering it’s Prime Video international views and how it’s on the top 10 every week since it’s release, I think by next week the season will have surpassed digital circus in views
>Shilled
That shit is gonna utterly bury this garbage show once its released lol
Is it a zoomer thing? Never heard of it.
>Adam gets killed instead of falling
This sucks. It would have been the perfect opportunity to actually test Charlie's notion of redemption, and bring up the flip side of what it means if sinners can ascend to heaven.
I'll forgive it if it's revealed Adam is reborn in hell the same way that Sir Pentious was reborn in heaven
Eh if she wants it can easily just be finagled to having Adam in hell if she wants considering Sir Pentious got to heaven even after a super smiting
>b-but it wasn't a weapo-
It'd be some bullshit if a high level smiting isn't on par with a weapon essentially consecrated with that power
She could, but it raises an issue about what death as a soul is and what Angel Weapons do. Based on what we know, getting killed from an angel's blade annihilates the soul, that's why Demon's getting killed by it is such a big deal. Adam being reborn would either mean that it doesn't actually annihilate souls (In which case Adam literally did nothing wrong), or Angels don't actually die from their weapons which would be a strange path to take.
Could also just be because he's a weird case in general. He had a different classification compared to your average human, angel, and sinner.
>hazbin hotel but for kids
i got just the show for you
Thanks again to the anon who made this last night
Did you ever do any more for the other boys?
I went to check out Digital Circus on youtube and it looks like something made for children
wheres episode 8 link
>Hazbin Hotel
vaggie is such a nothing character her song and "training" with camilla was so lame. Also dumbass really said wait angels can die to angelic weapons. Viv really can't write kek
>A: Vaggie was mutilated with angel weapons
>B: Vaggie had her wings ripped off or cut off so her not knowing angels could be harmed was dumb
>C: She implies they are militaristic and she had training they never sparred or told them they could be hurt by their own weapons?
>D: How had no one but camila ever killed a angel we know angelic weapons are left in bodies all the time seen by her flashback, she also sells those weapons so demons can permanently kill each other. So no demon ever said huh let me use this weapon to defend myself but her?
>Alastor just shows up at the rest of the gangs sing along completely healed from being stabbed with Adam's Angel weapon.
imagine
>having to give Alastor bedside TL&C while he spends a few weeks / a month recovering from his wounds after the fight.
>having to dress and re-dress Alastor's cuts and rub anti-septic onto him
>having to bring Alastor food to his bedside and help him sit up and eat.
>Helping Alastor both into and out of the bath every couple of days
>The entire time he's making the usual smarmy comments and saying your annoying him. But deep down he knows he needs you to take care of him.
>Calming Alastor down when Vox starts mocking him over the T.V. so he doesn't run off half-fuelled and get himself killed.
If i can't do this, Then what's even the point of living?
what if Lucifer turned him into a woman and had sex with her to punish her for being uppity ha ha
What if Lucifer kept him a guy but just gave him a big juicy butt?
if you stop now, you might have a chance at a normal life
That's all you, sister.
I'll start this by saying i have a very rosy view of this show, And more or less 'enjoy' it, I wouldn't have well over 100 pictures of the deer at this point if that wasn't the case.
But.
Can i just say how that entire plot of Vaggie arguing with Carmilla is an ACTUAL plot hole?
Vaggie who IS AN ANGEL and was SEVERLY INJURED TO THE POINT OF NEAR DEATH WITH ANGELIC WEAPONRY needed to be TOLD that ANGELIC WEAPONS can KILL ANGELS???
HOW DID CHARLIE NOT INSTANTLY REALISE THAT ANGELS CAN BE INJURED AND POSSIBLY KILLED WHEN VAGGIE IS STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO HER.
Vaggie could have known that angelic weapons could kill angels, but she didn't know that's how Carmilla did it, not did she know that it was a viable option. For all Vaggie knew she was the only one that had immediate access to them.
Charlie meanwhile was still having her personal crisis over Vaggie lying to her and wasn't totally rational (not that she every really has been)
that was an *angel* fricking up another *angel*
it doesn't mean it's obvious you can just pick up a sword an angel dropped and kill one with them
combat here works on power levels pretty much (which is why adam was able to just effortlessly delete pentious and frick up alistor the moment he actually focused on combat), so figuring out a sinner can kill an angel is not obvious at all without meta knowledge
>it doesn't mean it's obvious you can just pick up a sword an angel dropped and kill one with them
It does.
no it's not? how do you know that as a character in the universe? if you try it and are wrong you are fricking dead
you might be dead even if you are right since angels come in frickhuge swarms so it's not going to do you much good
you pretty much need to either be super powerful overlord fighting just a few angels, or assemble an army like charlie did
You don't know until you try.
You can't try unless they drop one.
The weapons appear to be one of the few shown methods of permanent death, why wouldn't you consider using them against an Angel? Think. If you are in a position to use it then it means you are also most likely in a position where you are about to be exterminated, regardless.
Nah, of all the stuff to die on, this is not the topic for it, Vaggie absolutely should know Angels are not unkillable, she shouldn't even DOUBT the possibility they can be killed it's just stupid she had the gall to make it sound like she thought they were INVINCIBLE.
Do any of the Angels act like they know their own weapons can be used against them? Are any of them equipped for defense thusly?
They really REALLY fricking should unless Heaven is so asinine-ly braindead.
Hell even then, they made it strong enough to kill demons permanently, I think they should know it should do something to themselves too just on principle.
>Publically
The issue really seems to come down that people like Carmilla or the more capable overlords don't want a genuine war over this. I don't believe it's a matter of they don't know (I'm sure the overlords like Rosie, Zestial and Alastor had suspicions, Carmilla was confirmation), but sadly their ideal is pretty sound since starting a WAR is not wise unless they can hard confirm this sort of shit and make weapons rapidly.
Though, Carmilla could be hindering the progress on this kind of thing overall even if she's paradoxically a pacifist as a weapons dealer.
The fight for the hotel is suppose to be a small scale battle in comparison to the genocides they do yearly/half-yearly.
Let's say a priest blesses water to be holy. He knows it will burn a demon on touch.
Should he assume it would burn an angel on touch, too?
I should not at all follow this analogy because it's not applicable to why this shit is asinine for the Angels, they made their own weapons and didn't do the bare minimum of testing if they made them TOO strong and it could permanently kill themselves if used against them.
It's a basic conversation, 'hey, could our weapons that are pretty frequently left behind because we're all smug buttholes be used against us? I mean, they can permanently kill our opponents, and we did make that one angelic b***h fall after ripping her wings off and slashing her eye out, so maybe we should stop leaving our weapons everywhere.'
>they made their own weapons
Anon, they don't know the terms under which a soul makes it into Heaven. There's no telling about the last time they talked to the Speaker of God, mentioned in the cast notes as the authority above the Seraphim sisters. You had whole episodes dedicated to the idea that ultimately, Heaven has no fricking clue what they're doing, and they're only following the rules available to them because they're the rules available to them, with the list of people who want to change things including such follow-worthy figures as Lucifer, and that's kind of it, really.
Most probably, they get their weapons through a ritual or a method they themselves don't even fully get.
Again, why should an angel, a being empowered by divine power, assume it would be hurt by an angelic weapon to any considerable extent? And why would anybody in Heaven risk their eternal life in Heaven to test it? And how do you tell apart an angelic weapon used by an angel hurting an angel because it's an angelic weapon from it being used by an angel? Again, there's nobody to ask these things, because the highest authority is Sera, and Sera has no fricking clue.
Yes, I completely subscribe to the fact the angels in Hazbin Hotel are so fricking moronic that they wouldn't know, so me even going down this tunnel is stupid to begin with because they wouldn't have, but I'm proposing to the anon that any other sane mind can really easily come to the conclusion whether by approved testing (non lethal stabs, or attacks with the weapons) on angels to confirm if they are effective against themselves is not outside the realm of possibility to confirm that this shit works on Angels.
Hey, you're barking up the wrong tree, I think the show does a lot of writing well except for pacing issues, but how it handled Angels is the stupidest part of the whole show mostly because they were all apparently as egotistical as Adam to not even do the bare minimum testing.
Think it through.
Disregard the angelic weapons to start. Can a show Angel be exterminated, cease to exist? At this point, no they cannot be made to cease to exist but they can be hurt.
Now, introduce the extermination weapons. The Angels may or may not know they can be specifically hurt by the weapons. Can they heal from any inflicted wounds?
If the weapons are specifically designed to only exterminate demons then Angels would not have any reason to believe their weapons could exterminate themselves and the weapons wouldn't be capable of it. If the weapons instead can exterminate a soul, and they all, Heaven and Hell, have souls, well I hope you see the grey area. Heaven, in the show, just didn't seem like a place that would allow destructive testing on its own subjects.
>They really REALLY fricking should unless Heaven is so asinine-ly braindead.
Put yourself in Heaven.
How exactly o you go about proving or disproving these fancy Demon exterminating weapons won't exterminate you and your fellow Exterminators?
You putting your head on the chopping block?
Take out a defiant exterminator unless angels like Vaggie are SERIOUSLY that uncommon.
Test it, it's not as criminally improbable as you're making it out to be to test it on probably the lowest earning Angel, do you seriously think Adam of all motherfrickers wouldn't come to this conclusion if it was thought about for more than 5 seconds?
>Adam of all motherfrickers wouldn't come to this conclusion if it was thought about for more than 5 seconds
He's prideful, gluttonous, wrathful, slothful, lustful, theoretically envious of Lucifer's ability to not lose his wives, and we only lack a greed indicator. Despite all this, he's perfectly convinced he's got zero faults to him and that he's truly deserving of his position and of his power. You're suggesting a man who never once went 'maybe there's something off about all this' must've at least once gone 'maybe there's something off about all this'.
ITS. BAD. WRITING.
>the guy complaining about bad writing can't spell 'it's' right
pottery
The fatass who wrote that abomination known as Hellva Boss season 2 wrote... more shitty material?! Whoa, no way!
Is there anything in the show that leads you to believe your suggestion is even on the table?
>like Vaggie
Shit for brains, she is a piss-poor example to use as they didn't kill her.
Is it normal for Angels in Heaven to just walk up and kill another Angel? Scripture or Show?
Please, start thinking your replies for more than 5 seconds.
>Kill
Okay, let me rephrase it for your monkey brains because Vaggie is the prime reason why this conversation is relevant.
Even SHE, who was VIOLENTLY TORN APART AND LOST HER WINGS AND EYE thought Angels couldn't be harmed and did not even HUMOR any thoughts for how it happened to HER, a STILL angel at the time.
My argument points stem from an anon claiming that Angels are totally valid for not knowing their own weapons can even DO anything to themselves despite the fact they use them to make Vaggie fall.
I am not arguing the fact from a demon's perspective, even though this same line of logic can apply to them given Carmilla is able to sell this kind of shit and as we've seen from Helluva, it's actually effective on higher tier of demons like a Goetia.
The most I can compromise on this discussion is that it's a huge knowledge gap which I can agree for the demons, Carmilla brings it up during her convo with Vaggie that not that many can find out what to do with them or if they even work so that's understandable, but the Angels themselves? They have a lot of resources in Heaven to test this, they have very little excuses in comparison.
i mean, why would Lute assume that she can frick up Vaggie because of the fancy sword, and not because she's an angel
especially when angels can presumably beat the shit out of each other normally
While I don't really want to concede, the show is basically telling us point blank that canonically, the exterminators are as brainwashed on their own supremacy as Adam was.
If I look at it from THAT angle, then no, you're pretty right that they're too self absorbed to think that way.
It's just insulting for a lot of folks that don't really deserve it to assume they are ALL as fricking dumb as Adam was, but, honestly that's a hard defense to argue because the show is pretty much telling us that IS the case.
I don't think otherwise the scenario of
>Angel A wants to kill Angel B
>They try to kill Angel B with whatever they can and nothing works at first
>But then they try with an angelic weapon and it suddenly works.
is impossible to have happened, but would it realistically in Hazbin?
Probably not honestly due to the fact exterminators definitely seem far too self absorbed, it's a bit hard to argue from THAT angle, but I don't think it still deters from the fact it's a really easy scenario to have come up especially between exterminators.
This is still pretty bad writing otherwise, but the show does at least provide a reason for why the Angels might not come to this conclusion, not that it's a sound one, but it's there.
Vaggie in general has been probably the worst character overall, she existed to be several episode's plot devices for numerous aspects
>how Adam 'gets one' over on Charlie's most triumphant moment
>be the gateway exposition for why we need to be told [again] that angelic weapons can kill angels
>and also just be an insight onto how an exterminator acted or would act in the most surface level way.
IMO, Season 2 would need to work it's ass off to make Vaggie a good character because she really causes a lot of problems while her girlfriend surprisingly develops along with her goal and it kinda made her (marginally) more bearable.
Vaggie is just HORRIBLY flat as a character.
>
You are relying on a character whose experiences in the show are also contradictory. The contradiction is so important, so WRONG, that it begs the question of is this simply writing they hoped no one would question. Vaggie is the only character they had they could be used to further that story element, damn her backstory. (You)
I don't min Vaggie. I see her character as a result of a shoddy script and director. Vaggie that actor/character, looking past the obvious inept writers and director, is OK.
My "now just wait a minute" moment was Sera and Hell being a threat. I tried to recall anything the show had shown that pointed to Hell being a threat to Heaven. I couldn't find any threat that Heaven itself wasn't responsible for. Hell didn't seem capable of making Heaven threatening weapons or more importantly of directly attacking Heaven itself.
In the hands of a better writer "Hell being a threat" as an idea could be used to demonstrate how Heaven's authorities have prejudices and unsound beliefs while still being broadly well-intentioned. Instead in the hands of Vivzie, we're somehow expected to take this idea at face value when Heaven has multiple archangels and the show has demonstrated that even one dwarfs the power of everything in Hell combined.
i mean they literally believe they are the soldiers of the universe equivalent of god, that they are inherently good, that they can do no wrong, and they have already been filtered by the simple test - are you willing to carry out a genocide without flinching? Vaggie wasn't and she got mutilated and cast out for it; who knows if she is the only one? also if you crack while getting trained they obviously would kick you out
and you slaughtered presumably hundreds of thousands of demons without getting a scratch on you
you have a group that you NEED to be a completely hyped-up nazi to join, so why would they question themselves?
Yeah, I don't get you self contradictory posts.
You are relying on a character whose experiences in the show are also contradictory. The contradiction is so important, so WRONG, that it begs the question of is this simply writing they hoped no one would question. Vaggie is the only character they had they could be used to further that story element, damn her backstory.
Best girl
If Pentious doesn't tap that I am going to be so angry.
IDC that he is an angel now Cherri will seduce him.
>Pentious does his best to fit in heaven by being a good boy
>cue Cherri doing everything in her power to corrupt him through lust
Pentious gets sent back to hell because of Cyclops pussy.
Its too good bros I know we will never see it.
>"A...Exsccccussseee me miss Ssssserrraa...It is wonderful here and all but...Do you think i could go back to hell for a little while to show my friendssssss that im alright?"
>"Sir. Pentious, If i cast you down, I can't let you back in!...."
>"....ok?"
>*Snek comically smashes through roof of Hotel*
The fanart must be made.
Sexiest girl
She's a bogan.
https://aggie.io/euz8Dyw15K
yippee!
cute
Might be a little late but am I the only one intensely bothered by the "Angel design" of Adam
>Draw an Imp
>Make it black and wear some "angelic robes"
>Call it an angel
It just feels very lazy
Well, see you in 4 years. I ain't going to bother with season 2 unless by some miracle the director gets kicked off
>4 years
If some tweets are anything to go by, Then the glass half full view seems to be that season 2 is coming in ~2years / slight <3years max, Excluding some act of god / actually out of the studio's control shit like WW3, Disease X or another writers strike.
It's been an honour to be part of this shitshow with you lads, hope the same enthusiasm will come out in force when S2 releases.
Adam WILL return
I never thought Hazbin Hotel would be my obsession after my impression of the pilot years ago, but watching the leaked episode 1 was all it took.
Hey the same thing happened to me, I wasn't going to bother at all with the series but when the first two episodes got leaked early I ended up checking the whole thing out after. Still don't like it too much, but it's interesting eye candy and made for a good case study on how not to write a story.
This thread consists of:
1) Neurodivergent/socially dislocated older males (age 20-30) relating to themes of isolation and finding community among fellow outcasts. This show's redemption premise provides escapist fantasy.
2) Sexually-frustrated men drawn to the overt sexualization of characters. Their interest is primarily pornographic rather than relating to story or themes.
3) Closeted LGBTQ males who use ambiguously LGBTQ characters as vehicles for covert sexual exploration and identity projection. Interest stems from repression.
Who cares, where's JOBstor?
If there was only one swear an episode then this [Alastor having the radio-filter cutoff as his microphone is broken and letting out a 'fuuuuuuuuckkkk....'] would have actually been a hilarious moment.
Honestly it's kinda disappointing that it really WAS just as easy as 'you need to use angelic weapons against the angels'
Like, I know Carmine makes some excuse as to why no ones tried it before, but after seeing the dead demon bodies with spears sticking out of them, its just kind of silly to think that no demons bothered to steal said weapons and then just coincidentally use them against the angels in the, god knows how many years hell has existed in this world.
It's counterintuitive that weapons specifically blessed to hurt demons would also hurt angels. Angels also leave them around willy-nilly, it'd be kind of dumb to assume using an angel weapon on an angel would work, given all that. And who would want to risk eternal suffering as a Hell-tree for that?
I missed it but where is the "specifically blessed to hurt demons" mentioned?
Also, if the weapon snuffs out souls/demons, who in Heaven will test it to see if it will do the same to them, knowing the possible permanent outcome?
They're angelic weapons, expressly special because they're the only sort of a weapon that can permanently kill a sinner instead of sending them to regenerate. They presumably come from some sort of a divine source, same as all of Adam's pew-pew lasers, and Helluva Boss has a few that are specifically called 'blessed (weapon name here)'.
>you just need angel weapons to kill angels
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Supernatural of all things did it better because IT DIDN'T TREAT IT LIKE A TWIST AFTER SHOWING AN ANGEL GETTING MAULED BY ONE
I don't know if I'd call it a twist, with how Alastor does it, it's him using the info he gathered in Ep 3 as the leverage he finally needed to make a deal with Charlie, which is the actual twist, that Charlie AGREED to it.
But it was also necessary to get the rest of the crew informed that Angels are surprisingly easy to take down, which I don't think that concept is the problem, they outlined it in Episode 1, the only big 'wtf' in the whole idea is that Vaggie was made into a dumbass about it.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but did you know they could be used to KILL an Angel until it was confirmed? Maybe, just maybe, they were powerful enough to hurt Angels owing to their ability to kill demons but not enough to exterminate them?
That the Angels didn't wear appropriate protection is sinfully prideful.
That the Angels didn't know their own weapons could kill themselves is understandable. Even injuring themselves too is understandable.
Exterminators and their knowledge of their own weapons screams ignorance.
That again just raises further questions about WHY Overlords hide from angels when the final couple of episodes show it's not like angels are immune from being crushed under heavy rocks or anything
The issue is they made angels so easy to take down it breaks my suspension of disbelief that NO Overlord tried publically.
A singular angel could maybe be beaten if you know what you're doing. They go around in flocks, seem to not enter buildings, and Overlords aren't that powerful, all in all. Why bother trying to kill them? It's not going to win you any favors with anybody, and all you get for the risk is the angelic weapon, which you could pick out of a corpse laying on hthe street, anyways.
So many questions!
Just what is the timing of the exterminations, are they tied to the hourglass?
WHY are only the Overlords shown hiding? Is everyone else too stupid to also hide?
Sigh, being immune from crushing is not nearly the same as being exterminated. This actually brings up a question that could have been a plot twist. We only have the characters word that the exterminator was killed be an angelic metal when we know that they can be injured and that it isn't unreasonable for the head to have been torn off or removed by other means. The only permanent death being from angelic metal. We don't know the process of reforming.
>adam WHO?
>JOBastor WHO?
ENTER
This is why Alastor hates Vox.
The T.V. did not enjoy having his advances rejected.
Pentiousgays will pay for robbing Alastor and Adam
>seeing people on xitter going "YASSSSSS!" after the Q&A confirming Alastor is still aroace
This is the most nothingburger alphabet soup identity I've ever heard of and that's saying something, I can't wrap my head about anyone being actually excited for its representation
White girls with hormonal issues and/or lack of attention from hot guys usually identify as that until their parents force them to go to college. Also a lot of female content creators do it so they can dodge horny simps/stalkers.
empathy check failed i guess?
I'm sorry you can't experience the biggest joys of being human
getting your dick wet is the biggest joy of being human?
not him but while I don't consider sex the biggest joy by ANY means, I would say love is - and being "aromantic" means not loving anyone beyond platonically
Romantic love is you walnut
asexuals still have romance and partnership u donkey
The rabid enthusiasm from Hazbin Hotel Twitter fans regarding confirmation that Alastor is still aromantic/asexual stems from the psychological tendency of maladjusted young females (so-called "fujoshis") to project heavily onto damaged male archetypes.
By keeping Alastor devoid of romantic/sexual connections, it enables fans to more easily fantasize about "fixing" or romantically redeeming this sinister entity without having to rationalize away inconvenient canonical relationships.
The inherently unobtainable nature of Alastor's orientation only enhances the fantasy challenge for those seeking to "tame the beast" through self-insertive fan fiction.
The only way Alastor could be remotely sexy if you gave him Double Ds.
hat
He doesn't have Pentious's Double-D going on, But he can 'make up for it' in certain ways.
>Charlie is up in the bedroom, alone.
>Alastor grinning: Hmmmmm ....
>disappears
>reappears in bedroom
>talks to her about angels or some shit
>Alastor is a Glass-Cannon
>Le scary guy who can instakill most people levels lower then him
>Probably some sort of character quirk like being touch shy.
>But if you get past his defence/speed and land a hit on him he folds in a single punch/slash faster then a piece of paper.
I don't know the proper name for this type of character asides from 'Glass-Cannon' in terms of combat ability, But i just call this the 'Gaara archetype'
>mfw alastor is sans
more proof he is sexyman bait
>She just got second place to fricking Digital Circus.
Finally someone (kind of) fricking said it. Digital Circus is clearly aimed at a wide age range. People keep talking about how "dark" it is, but I think it could get away with a rating as low as TV-Y7 if it were on network TV.
>inb4 but the censored cussing
Spongebob literally had a whole episode centered around that idea. It was TV-Y7.
TADC is the opposite of Hazbin. No swearing & algorithm-favorable characters, but actual adult situations and themes (eventually, allegedly)
Good, hope that shows turns out good over this dumpster fire.
Alastor fans waited several years just to have him lose the only fight he has against a peer opponent. Embarrassing.
It was fun watching Adam essentially fart in Alastor's mouth even if I'd still frick that deer twink anus.
It's kind of funny how Alastor fans lived to see their boy get fraudchecked, while everyone who shit on Adam after the drafts of him were leaked suddenly turned around and claimed he's the best thing about the show
>while everyone who shit on Adam after the drafts of him were leaked suddenly turned around and claimed he's the best thing about the show
Because we expected it to be cringe obnoxious and not based obnoxious.
Adam gave Charlie trouble. She's two Hell pecking order levels above Alastor. Deer boi, sadly, really had no chance.
>peer opponent
no lol
adam is several tiers above him
high powered angels can effortlessly delete normal sinners, and completely buckbreak overlords if they actually focus on the fight
peer for adam would be maybe charlie(?) though i think she could be stronger than him
while lucifer is a seraphim so he just swatted adam out of the sky
yeah but why would i put myself in a position to be exterminated? id run away and hope that i don't have to try some trick to defend myself
that's what everyone important did while angels were out there slaughtering random nobodies on the streets
you'd need to either actively seek them out (suicidal)... or get caught with your pants down
yk, like carmilla did
Dipshit, "you" is being used generically unless you actually believe you are in the show.
You do know that the subject matter is the show, right?
>everyone important
Does that include the Carmilla and her children? wait, you do know that tid-bit. The extermination isn't a surprise each year. They all know of the planned event.
>Dipshit, "you" is being used generically unless you actually believe you are in the show.
are (You) having an autism flareup right now or something? what do (You) think I was trying to say?
Simply pointing out that you can't hide your flareup with attempted misdirection.
im... not sure what are you even talking about?
why would you assume that someone using "i/me" while talking about a cartoon is not talking about a hypothetical
why would you assume that a "you" is directed personally at you
im just confused, i cant deal with this level of autism...
pretty explicitly for who?
dipshit, I'm not the one that made this assumption, >why would you assume that a "you" is directed personally at you
why would you assume that someone using >"i/me" while talking about a cartoon is not talking about a hypothetical
See you own reply about assuming "you"
Yes, your autism level is edging way too high.
Anyone that even sees the glowing white weaponry, that has been told to be Angelic, that is held BY angels that come yearly on extermination day, and if Carmilla is correct, can potentially be collected by dumbasses that don't know much other THAN it's the same weaponry that is used to kill demons permanently and then is found out to work on Goetia based on how Carmilla sells them.
It's pretty easy to find out
you'd need to go and try to stab an angel and survive the experience, which comes back to
if you were a demon, would you try it? i wouldn't unless i was forced to
which is exactly what happened in the show
His pilot version was so much better, syndicated version is just complete garbage.
Carmilla got the best musical song under Loser.
Loser really was the catchiest song of the season, and I find the gay spider annoying.
Guess this is the last of these I'm gonna make. My feelings towards the characters are as inconsistent as the writing, besides the ones at the top. With so many of them it's just hard to care with how rushed the season was.
that reminds me
only one of the goat dragons died on screen
i hope we will see the 2nd one in season 2 and not just have him disappear
He is right here.
These threads have been so much fun and I hope we can continue sperging out together for a while
So many lovable characters in here
>The Adambros who held out hope til the end
>The Pentgods who knew their boy would make it to heaven
>The handful of Vox fans who wanted to see more of him
>The one Voxmask Schizo
>The many many Lutebros and Adamlute shippers
>The Emilybros who made some cute art of her and wanted to see Vaggie cucked, alongside the Charlastorchads (don't we all?)
>The one Adamsister who wanted to frick him
>The one Valsis who wants him to abuse her
>The Alastorsis who always numbers her files
Truly such a great cast in these threads
>And then me who hornyposted a lot and wrote some lewd greentext
I agree it's been such a lovely experience and your post encapsulates that, well memed or whatever friend
shame the show was shit after waiting so long, but that was to be expected
I still maintain this show is objectively shit and that Vivizie is a fricking hack. But in spite of all that yeah, both the show and these threads have been fun.
If nothing else, it's been really funny watching people come up with schizo deepest Biblical lore theories and having them all shattered by Vivzie's hack writing.
Those youtube theorists are now just coping with how bad the writing is now, its hilarious watching them stumble and trip over themselves desperately fixing all the holes Viv left. Its the worst case scenario, its one of "those" shows, the ones where these dumb buttholes will have to tell their audience "Look its... you have to turn your brain off to enjoy it. Yes I'm a giant hypocrite who criticized others for doing that but yeah I gotta shill this series somehow after hyping it up you all..."
I was thinking more of these very threads' schizos, but yeah it makes sense that the youtube theorists are even more desperate to seem smart in a show determined to be very, very stupid.
Oh yeah the show is objectively bad all around but there are a few good parts and some characters I like so I'll just take what I like and run with it like everyone else
frick viv and her shit writing and sociopathic ways
Heaven and Hell are just another "ring" of the same plane. When sinners are able to enter the other realms that same possibility to enter Heaven also happens. After all, Angels/exorcists just need a portal and they can enter Hell at will, AND stay. They have the superior technology to do so, and just needs to be shared. Anyone in heaven and hell are the same beings.
There is still no proof that there are any specific reasons why someone passes "divine judgement" and when people on Earth die they could just hit a roulette and enter whichever, though that's probably not super likely as I'm sure the line can be blurred somewhere.
It's possible that getting vaporized by "holy light" burns your soul into redemption and Pentious just got purely lucky.
Another theory I have is that being touched by "holy light", aka any angelic weapon, causes your soul to partially be cleansed, hence why Alastor had a bit of an attitude change at the very end.
the uhh... circulation of the souls is in control of an unseen higher power that neither angels nor demons know much about
it decides if you go to heaven or hell (and maybe some other options), and now it decided to move snakeboi to heaven
we don't actually know what happens when you get exterminated by angels, but seems like this is the 1st time it resulted in someone going to heaven, since angels have been thinking about it as just hell population control and demons have been thinking that it just deletes them
the exterminations are yearly but that's just because adam said so
they presumably need some time to prepare, stack up spears, etc. - but not the whole year
not sure why everyone doesn't try to hide
such as?
but if you stabbed other angel with your angel knife why would you think that it's because of the knife, and not because it's an angel using it?
Because it's pretty explicitly the weapon, and NOT the owners? The weapons are stated pretty commonly to be how they kill the demons, they also glow radiantly, and act radiantly even without the owners holding onto them.
If anything, I would wonder why they didn't make it so ONLY angels could hold them if they can that all encompassing but miss the part that'd probably save them an uprising later on like this.
>the exterminations are yearly but that's just because adam said so
I'm just going off what I'm given.
Take an annual doctor's checkup. You don't have one in December then go again in January, calling it your "see you in a year" checkup. No, the next one is in December, again. Better yet, the traditional year and a day.
Yes, "divine judgement" is completely arbitrary and might not exist at all.
Angels are beings of light, that much is proven and there's no evidence they even heed to a higher power themselves. Sera did not want to answer what the determination is because, yes, she does not know herself and did not want to admit that sinners and non-sinners are exactly the same just separated by the blurred line I mentioned.
What I said before is theories, and you are just admitting speculation. We know for a fact that Pentious went to heaven but that doesnt mean he is the first. Anyone exterminated might just go to another realm too, as there isn't a specific definition of a soul besides of those who are on Earth.
Do imps, hell hounds, etc have souls? They are creations just as much as humans are.
-i said that they might go to another realm in that very post
-if extermination was a way to salvation, wouldn't the angels say so? why would they hide it?
-the seraphim are completely surprised at the snake demon
-it is outright stated that they have no idea how divine judgement works, and Sera says that "there is much that you don't know"
-no clue about imps and hellhounds, not sure how it's relevant to the question to be honest
divine judgement exists and it's in charge of souls, it's pretty explicit in the show, frequently referenced in veiled terms, etc
if you want speculation then i'd say that the references to capital g God in the show are not accidental and we will see God at some point
i liked it, personally.
its this generation's invader zim
Hell fricking no, say what you want about the fans but Invader Zim was a actual beast of a show with crazy production AND was genuinely funny that still holds to this day. HH can barely keep up with its own basic premise
lmao nah, its a flash in the pan and will be quickly forgotten for the next new thing.
So now can anyone tell me why Viv had Velvette figure out who killed the angel? She figured it out first but never utilised that information at all. Just gradually everyone found out and Alastor was the only one to use it barely in time before it would be common knowledge anyway.
She tried to rally the other overlords probably because the Vees need their strength to even make a stand like what the Hazbin crew do, which required Carmilla and Rosie's help.
Velvette kinda fricked the Vees from achieving something historic because she wanted to go oonga bunga right away without proper checking.
I wouldn't even be surprised if she didn't tell Val or Vox either but I think given Vox isn't going mad they seem to know.