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Hazbin Hotel Leak Discussion
K-kino Viv?
Did we ever see sinners that are family members? I mean before they went to hell
why are the voices different, they sound like shit
Vivzie opted for Broadway star power with the voice cast going forward ather than sticking with what was proven to work before.
Viv fired the pilot VAs to hire broadway stars and big names but for some reason recast Katie with Brandon.
Basically all the current VAs sound wonky because they're trying to copy the pilot voices with varying success, Vaggie being the worst, her VA sounds so bored.
I know a few people who haven't been following it since the pilot who immediately noticed all the changes in Vaggie. Common consensus on it was she was just "bland". Voice, outfit, and even her part of the story comes off like Leonardo syndrome.
She had so much more personality in the pilot by comparison. I think it was mostly due to her old actor hard carrying her lines with a good performance, she just sounds dead inside now.
One of the last posts from the last thread said Vivzie was pissed or something. Is she actually responding to the leaks?
she hasnt said anything
She's been liking tweets complaining about the leaks but hasn't actually said anything about it yet.
I'm sure when that dam bursts it will be the usual lulzy spergery to behold. I can't wait.
1. When isn’t she complaining
2. How can she even care about leaks at this point? She cultivated a fandom before actually finishing the product. How many “inside scoops” did she post to twitter regarding background information? Like even the fans don’t really care about the show. They like the characters and the ideas more than the actual plot
Yeah she's probably miffed but not losing any sleep over it
>not losing any sleep over it
Viv? lol no. That's not how Viv works.
if she makes a statement about leaks, she'd just advertise to literally ALL of her fans that the first 2 eps are out for free
she'll probably say something after the 12th
Reminder when you're trying to fantasize yourself and Vivzie as Spazkid and Kirk Buckland that
1. He is a talented artist and you are a loser on a Cinemaphile board for pedophiles
2. Both him and you hate women because you're attracted to trannies and men.
what are you rambling about no one even replied because you sound like a nutcase
Kira Buckland is just sad since now she is nonbinary. Couldn't just be a fat chick that guys would still be simping for, now has to be some batshit gender noncomforming weirdo now.
It's boring how powerful Alastor is.
Is he gonna be a Gary Stu?
he's been a Gary Stu since his inception
The show is fine, Episode 1 is passable and I’d say episode 2 is good even, Cinemaphile was wrong again.
This entire board was making out it was gonna be a Food fight level cinematic abortion. And now that it isn’t, your all nailing down on the minutia and minor-details like the voices and an animation error or two.
You all screamed RUINED when Persian was cast as Alastor but now even you all seem to admit that the Alastor/Vox song was the best part of the first 2 episodes.
That was the worst fricking song. So glad we get a glorified jack off Alastor's ego song.
It's mediocre
Yes ok?
It gets a gold star for being 6/10 mediocrity that everyone but it’s Uber-fans and this thread will forget when it’s run ends, Instead of the absolute 1/10 abortion that Vivzie lowered our expectations to the point we expected.
5/10 is mediocre, 6/10 is decent and passable
>all these '/co was wrong again!' posts
Get new material
6/10 is being too generous, but these are just the first two episodes so it's not possible to give a proper estimate just yet. The jank storytelling and rapid pacing though is definitely going to screw it over in the long run with only 8 episodes for this one season. The fact that the supposed "first" episode itself hardly serves as a proper introduction is a worrying choice of its own instead of doing a streamlined remake of the 5 year old pilot; which is for some reason still 'canon' despite having multiple inconsistencies with the proper series.
It's maximalist but doesn't have the means of carrying all these ideas in a effective manner. They should've slowed the frick down and let the premise of "rehabilitating demons"/cleaning up the hotel and hanging out with the hotel staff bake more first before heightening the stakes with Adam speeding up the extermination.
The hilarious part is Viv is a glass-is-half-empty kinda gal when it comes to any criticism whatsoever, so 6/10 is still 4/10 worth of room for her to have a neurotic mental breakdown over.
This is why Cinemaphile still wins no matter what at this point.
You gays who think people being too hard on Viv could generous give it a 9/10 to her face and you'd quickly find out who is being hard on whom. Meanwhile your more realistic scores like 6/10 and positive but constructive critiques are eating her from the inside like battery acid.
dang you read my mind. i gave ep1 a 5/10 and ep2 a 6/10.
Most of the people involved in the love/hate of the show already made up their minds on what this will be to them based on internet drama and opinions of the creator's other show, so the haters want it to be the worst thing ever and the fanboys want a masterpiece. Regardless of what happens, they'll think its what they want and nothing else. As you said, it's just okay, and the general public will like it better than your average adult cartoon, but not as much as Arcane or Blue Eye Samurai. It will get enough views to go on longer than the other canceled industry toons.
It's "eh"...watchable and extremely geared towards already established fans. I dunno if any average person who didn't watch the pilot or know about the world already will think of it.
I'm still not giving Helluva Boss season 2 a pass. That dropped the ball so hard.
Cinemaphile was wrong as usual and HH is kino given its what Viv actually gave a shit about and didn’t let a flamboyant gay man run the whole thing, but Poison is easily the best song made yet for it. And I’m not even an Angelgay.
>inb4 not in the show
Piss off you know what I mean.
We have only saw the first two episodes of the season, still way too early to say anything definitive about the show yet
>Cinemaphile wrong again that it wasn't a 0/10 atrocity! it just ranges from mediocre to somewhat okay.
It's very much watchable but I wouldn't say good. Hazbin had an interesting concept and a great style and cast to back it up, but the transition from pilot to full series has sanitized the series' charm and potential into something that is a little charming at best (Vox and Alastor's relationship as rivals, their fun engaging song) to boring or forgetable at best (Charlie meeting Adam to discuss Hazbin, Vox talking with Valentino), and with the animation feeling more stiff than the pilot thanks to Bento Box, and the complete recast, the charm and soul that made Hazbin something to enjoy and be excited for has been completely lost in serialization
you gotta admit, the animation in that initial trailer was abysmal and motion sickness inducing.
ARE YOU MENTALLY moronic?
It's the most "So bad it's good" I EVER WATCHED. I'd die of shame if somebody knew I watched this dumpster fire.
Don't be so disingenuous. AT BEST, it's mid, and we've already seen how far down the lows are.
So there's no God or Jesus? Lame.
Viv is "uncomfortable" with using actual big names for religion in the show which is why she only has Lucifer as her well known angel. The rest are OCs save for Adam whom she turned into an angel.
Dunno if that will change down the line, but considering she backpeddled on that Jeffery Dahmer joke in the pilot...
We know from the voice cast list that Saint Peter is going to appear somewhere down the line
so is Charlie going to head there too and start saying shit like "creepy" at people just being normal like she did in the first episode entering the Angel embassy?
Charlie is horrifically sheltered and desensitized to how much of a shithole hell is along with being too accepting of horrible people, but it's understandable why she's like that. I don't have high hopes that she'll understand that some people are actual scum and normal things aren't "creepy", but we'll see.
Her childish and frankly condescending methods of rehabilitation combined with her constant hyperactivity seems to support this. Maybe they will explore how hopelessly out of her depth she is in later episodes, like perhaps in season 2 she's given an opportunity to prove that the Hotel works, only for reality to come crashing down.
We'll be lucky if that, i picture it's just going to devolve into the full on war on heaven and be like "the angels wanna move down to hell and be bad" stuff
>Charlie visits heaven
>freaks out over other people being as nice as she is
“You don’t get it Vaggie, I waved and said hi to someone, and they smiled and waved back!! That’s NEVER happened before!!”
>"Vaggie! People there are messed up! The streets don't have corpses or trash burning everywhere, no one is raping or eating each other, and I didn't hear any explosions or gunshots! It was so creepy!"
Kek
>Charlie visits Heaven.
>The people there are even nicer and more hyper than she is.
>It makes her uncomfortable.
>Plot twist: charlie in deep down is kind of a narcissistic b***h that can't handle other people being as nice as her because it makes her feel less "special" and "unique"
Interesting
Would be kino and it'd make Charlie more interesting.
>No demon princess gf who treats you like a pampered pet she can bang
Viv really fricked this whole thing up with gay drama
Lesbian predator Charlie is also good, don't know why Viv didn't went with this
Unfortunately, there's less chance of that happening than people from hell "redeeming" into heaven... In real life
So she's a sheltered white liberal who's trying to push some kind of "rehabilitation project" onto a ghetto to make it "safer" and "save her people" huh
The angel embassy WAS kinda creepy tho, what with no one actually being there at the reception desk, doors opening on their own etc.
For the record, sending someone to live in Hell just to work at a barely used reception area in a big building that's basically just a clock, doesn't sound like a job anyone who lives in Heaven would want.
Yeah, fair.
But also fair to call it creepy too
Why does St. Peter look like a Pokemon here?
I wouldn’t expect final boss type people like that to show up so early
Wait is this that cartoon with all the swearing?
Oh no no no no no. I wouldn't dare watch that. That seems like it has too many naughty things in it.
Genuinely less swearing then HB in all honesty.
I actually really liked episode 2.
Now I'm wondering what Helluva Boss would be like if they had their current level of animation, but with people who actually know how to write and plan storylines, and do musical numbers.
So what's with this shit about the "Root of All Evil"? Is Viv going to try some sort of "religion but it's TWISTED because of ELDRITCH BULLSHIT" deal? Maybe some kind of "this was the REAL Satan all along!" thing? I'm not sure how confident I am in Viv to be able to pull it off, considering the rest of the religious themeing in her shows - and how her antagonists tend to be utterly pathetic.
I am a little interested though, mainly because I like eldritch shit and religious synbolism - and I want to make some comparisons to The Absolute Solver from Murder Drones which is definitely beginning to have a lot of religious symbolism around it in that show.
>Eldritch horror stronger then YHWHjak, Michael and Lucifer
It will be like the true-ending of Undertale, the ‘root’ or whatever shows up and one-taps literally everyone and assimilates/vores them and then tries to end the universe or smth, And then Charlie through like ‘love’ or hope or smth transcends destiny and becomes sort of angelic magical girl and brings everyone back, kills ‘root’ and sets the universe right or smth.
We don't know a lot at all, but "Roo'" (stupid fricking name by the way) is probably going to be the main antagonist in some form, in a kind of "playing both Heaven and Hell" plot. I don't have much faith in Viv either, and unlike her I actually trust Liam Vickers in writing a narrativve with religious themes twisted by an evil / eldritch entity. In all likelyhood, like you said, Viv is going to end up making the "Root of All Evil" pathetic in some way. It does make me wonder how the whole mystery is going to be presented, considering the writing choices in these two episodes that have leaked, and whether it'll be heavy-handed or not. The way religious themes and imagery are presented in Murder Drones in relevance of "The Solver of The Absolute Fabric" (way cooler name, by the way) is subtle but not overbearing, but we'll have to see what Viv is wanting to do. It would be nice to be pleasantly surprised and have a decent, threatening, thematically interesting antagonist though. Like you, I just like cosmic horrors being infused with religion and that might not be a common sentiment here. AbsoluteSolver is definitely one of my favourite examples of this kind of thing though, I wonder if this Root of All Evil will live up to it.
My current guess is that Roo/Root of All Evil will embody total selfishness to the point of destruction, absolute chaos, essentially Hell but worse.
Whatever Roo is or ends up being, she gets MOGGED by my beautiful godly WIFE!
Extremely based AS appreciator
Plot twist
>They're the same person/character
Azathoth
Crossover of the century in a alternative universe
>The Root of All Evil is literally just The Absolute Solver leaking in to the Hazbinverse afterlife
Honestly? Potentially funny, and potentially pure kino considering how the Solver is basically shaping up to be Eldritch Satan / Anti-God in the Murder Drones universe. In the alternate universe where this could be the case, that is, because this would never happen despite the crossover potential. However a man can dream.
>A crack tears open between the boundaries of Heaven and Hell.
>"Giggle."
>"Did you miss me?"
Kino, and has fanfic potential. However Viv would never be this based unfortunately.
>The hypothetical ending to Hazbin and Helluva Boss is a complete fricking [null] by the Absolute Solver
>God was only a puppet for the Solver's ideas and used the exterminations as ritual material to summon the Solver in the Helluva Universe
>The series ends not with red or white, but with a bright dark yellow and pitch black, everything united in [null]
K I N O
Or the events of the show result in God losing control of the universe, thus leaving it to the mercy of the AS
>the yearly exterminations in Hell were a mass murder-ritual to initiate a [null] event and summon the Solver of the Absolute Fabric to consume the Hazbin/Helluva-verse
Oh FRICK.
This would be so kino but we ain't getting this. My faith in this show is shattered and Viv is an ass for tossing the old VAs aside when she had no use for them anymore.
holy kino what the frick
Bold to assume that Viv has this much creativity.
Good. In that case, they can pick up where that death battle left off and have Murder Drones universe completely kill off the Hazbin/Helluva verse.
>DONT YOU LIKE THE HECKING MULTIVERSE GUYS ITS SO HECKING AWESOME
>I HECKING LOOOOOVVVEEEE CENTRALIZATION OF THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY
The MCU and its consequences have been a disaster for Western media.
>t. guy
What the frick are you rambling about you schizo homosexual?
My ungodly evil entity can't possibly be this cute.
If the leaks about Roo are true, I hope she lives up to expectations. We need more evil abominations to appreciate, and The Solver is one of my favourites currently.
If anything the worst thing about the show so far seems to be The Lilith=Rosie, ‘Root of evil’, Alastor has been sent to guard Charlie’ leak seeming to be true
But then again, studios have let fake leaks that seem realistic happen before to catch weak leaks before, so who know, I also half expected this shit to be a 1/10 train wreck, so all bets are off in my mind.
*weak links
Problem is those leaks I think are real due to them being leaked by people who were screwed over by Vizzie throughout the years.
All the leaks (at least the more reliable sources) have been proven true so far so it'll be interesting to see how it actually plays out.
As for the show itself...Never expected it to be a trashfire considering Viv's animation trackrecord to be somewhat decent since Helluva is a watchable show so Hazbin wasn't going to be absolute shit. At the very least it's ok to look at.
Show is entertaining, i can't say its good or bad exactly yet but goddamn they did velvet dirty, frick viv
>From a Manic Pixie Dream qtie to a stuck-up Karen c**t
Just why
>IGN dropped their review early
>They gave it a 1
It's over.
Oh no laddies! The hell babies are gonna be shook by this! When is Daftpina making a video about Vivzie?
>Chuck Sneed
>didn't bother making it a sneed joke
>Chuck Sneed hates it
It's over
Upvoted
I told you people going into it with no prior context, just trying to look at its own merits, are gonna be lukewarm at best.
What would a normal prime subscriber who first saw this pop up in a suggestion list even imagine the premise to be at this point?
Man, Sneed has good taste
>i wish it was real.
Adam's song was kind of a banger - Vox and Alastor's duel song was pretty good too, but I feel like it maybe could have used a few more verses.
So I watched them.
Vox vs Alastor song is pretty good.
I like Charlie, but I'm sorry, none of her songs are all that good and I couldn't handle much of them.
Pentious is the only funny character, which comes as a surprise. What the frick is wrong with Valentino's voice though? The accent is extremely inconsistent. Vaggie is also extremely bland and boring. The rest of the voices are serviceable.
That comes with a caveat though: Viv opted for supposed "Broadway glamour," when everything in this, the Pilot voices would have been 100% capable of. Was unnecessary to replace them.
>hit by the transfer quota
NOOOOOOOOOO
Sucks to be a VPNlet
Turn your phone on/off don’t use your home wifi and watch in the mega on there + download it and just transfer it to your computer from your phone.
I’m shocked that so many don’t get this. It uses your IP to stop you from watching and downloading, just change the IP and you can watch infinitely.
Okay anyone noticed that suddenly Velvette's hair changed from scene to scene? They can't even keep her design consistent. Also Vox has those weird footprints. I don't like those episodes, but I guess I still have my autism about this show somewhat.
>Also Vox has those weird footprints.
I think that's an intentional part of his design
I know. Was pointing it out to see if anyone knows what that is about. The Velvette thing just bothered me and I thought I want to mention this too.
He's going to FRICK Alastor
I applaud you for dancing on the corpse of het shippers . (Not to sound like the “dances gayly” gay) This is a cute ship, and I’m sick of Charlastor and hate Lilith already (Luci bleeds gay energy) . Bring on the gays! Thank Viv!
Calm down dude
>no one is truly evil except Eve the original woman
Uhhh based?
Is Alastor that tall or is Lucifer that short?
From the few scenes we've seen, Lucifer seems quite short compared to everyone else.
Also doesn't help that most people in the show are very tall to start with
These are some BCB-tier proportions
Ouch
Tall husband.
>closes the door on him
Alastor waits under Charlie's bed every night.
*Lucifer's bed
Valentino was fricking atrocious. He was being played up to be some kind of big deal but he's just whiny, annoying, pathetic and unthreatening. And his accent flip-flops around CONSTANTLY what the actual frick? He sounds utterly moronic. Vox, on inital presentation, is way better. Unfortunately that goes immediately out the window when Vivzie decides to have her favourite boy Alastor completely dunk on and clown on him, making him look like a joke.
What the actual frick was she thinking? It's literally only the second episode. What the frick are these writing decisions? Not a good start, this shit sucks and feels more like Viv's Personal Alastor Power fantasy. Why not have Alastor be a genuinely evil antagonistic presence? One who's therr to "help" but, in an actually FUNNY way, in the most unhelpful ways possible in order to laugh at everyone else's misery. Instead of clicking his fingers and fixing everyone's problems like the EPIX POWERFUL MISUNDERSTOOD SEXYMAN he currently is? These writing decisions are baffling, jesus christ.
And I have to reiterate. This is only the SECOND episode.
You already spazzed out about this
This is the first time I've posted about the leaks since watching them, but sure I'm whatever random fricking anon you're thinking about moron.
>Characters can't show any semblance of weaknesses or they're shit
If they were absolute threats you'd just be upset and call them gary stus
>these characters are completely pathetic and have no semblance of being even remotely threatening or compelling antagonists because of Viv's shitty writing, compelled by Viv also needing to jerk off over her Gary Stu Alastor
>"you just want them to be gary stus"
Either have a nice day or stop saying stupid shit. Are you mentally challenged?
>Pentious can hypnotize people
Oh I can already see the kinky shit that's going to come out of this.
Cherri will be into it
Probably.
And Niffty too!
I need MORE
Not that Anon, but they better not frick up the Australian bomber.
1 Eye waifus
You're missing one.
It's both.
Husk going to rescue Angel but he ends up getting mindbroken by dat BValC doe himself
Between him and Vox I expect a surge of Hazbin hypno porn
>picrel
>Mfw Adam somehow is canonically in charge of heavens military and not Michael
This is some next level bullsht, there's literally characters like Adam and St. Peter but not literal biblical angels, and that irritates me to no end
Are they kind of assuming that everyone who is watching this is going to already have watched the pilot? It felt like the show just jumped into things. Personally, I'm not complaining, I was happy to not have to rehash everything, but I feel like new viewers might be lost?
Yeah, I think the annoying thing is they didn't even do a great job establishing what happened in the pilot. Personally I would've done it something like
>Opening scene with Charlie narrating the book
>fade to black, open to Katie Killjoy reporting on the most recent extermination and then the hotel, also use that to establish how little everyone thinks of Charlie's plan
>have Katie segue into the commercial Alastor made
>commercial airs, re-introducing everyone, when it ends cut to the group on the couch watching then have the episode proceed from there
It'd be good to have Katie introduce the hotel from the outside, but I think the actual details of the hotel should have been shown in the attempt to reshoot the commercial. It makes the B plot more memorable and gives it more time to breath instead of just being there.
They should have redone the first episode but introduce husk and nifty later and give more development to charlie, vaggie, angel, and alastor since they being are used more. The pilot was already cramped with so many characters but now in ep 1 it's still cramped and frick all was done to introduce them.
Wahaha
Viv will already be stress-eating over the leaks, so the next time we see her she's going to be even fatter than she is already.
And people were concerned about the Large Hadron Collider creating a black hole. That b***h puts on much more mass and she's going to collapse under her own gravity and take the Earth with her.
>already two characters with hypnosis powers
You guys didn't tell me Vivzie had good taste?
>Characters are whiny, unlikable, and just generally badly written
Woah guys, it's almost as if they're literal demons from hell whom are driven by evil and depravity!
This is a joke btw
Ain’t it sad? Cinemaphile spends time trashing Vivzie, then all of a sudden, when they realize this show is an absolute masterpiece, you fricks scramble to defend her and mull on about how cute the gays are. (Which I admit they are cute.) I dunno, maybe the people who trashed me for defending Viv have left and were replaced by Trannies from X, who enjoy using Cinemaphile, or something. But it’s nice to see Viv be respected and defended and see Cinemaphile over the moon with absolute amazement of how cute and amazing this show is. I’m honestly pretty damn happy. Infact, I’m baking a cake later and posting it when the show comes out on the 19th, and I’m dogshit at baking.
Anyways, Angel Dust is as sweet, sympathetic, and adorable as Stolas and must be protected at all cost and Cinemaphile seems to agree for once. How shocking.
>then all of a sudden, when they realize this show is an absolute masterpiece, you fricks scramble to defend her
But that isn't what's happening
>when they realize this show is an absolute masterpiece
Anon, it's okay at best.
What kind of alter earth are you living on?
Anon, people ITT are saying the show is ‘fine’ or 5/10, It’s better than I thought it would be, but don’t push your luck now.
tl;dr
I got wrongly warned for ironic shitposting and this is still up?
>when they realize this show is an absolute masterpiece
>Stolas and must be protected at all cost
Post more Lucifer.
I agree! More Luci and more Angel. Lilith gays need not apply, same goes for Valentino gays. I’m so happy to be back….
>leaks were real
Don't even need to watch it this show is shit. Sad, looks like those JoJo x HH/HB fics will be the only good things to come of this shit.
Watch the show, it’s good, and only getting better!
You expect the trolls to listen? Eh. Least you and I can enjoy a cute and amazing show…. ‘S a masterpiece
No thanks. Shit sucks.
>suddenly, Stolasgay and his Bizarro Earth LARP
Weak bait.
I like my Luci to be a shorty.
He is one
He is a sexo.
Angelic bussy
And thus, the samegayging begins. Have fun filtering the stolasgay posts from the rest, Black folk. Don't worry, it's not that hard.
NIFFTY A FRICKING CUTE
Yeah she is!
So was Nifty that tiny when she was a human? Imagine how fricked up it'd be to be turned into a one-eye pixie when you die.
niffty is apparently asian, specfically japanese
Wow I feel like that makes her appearance in Hell even worse
Is Alastor going to mess with Charlie by fricking her dad?
Pfff what kind of question is that?
He's gonna mess with Charlie's dad by polluting his daughters womb with his sinner-overlord seed.
Sinners can't reproduce.
Have we either seen or heard condoms being referenced in either HH or HB? Maybe on Ozzy's factory?
If so, Then why would they even exist in that case?
I don't recall hearing or seeing any condoms in either show.
werent there some during Charlie's song in the first ep?
I think there were some condom wraps in Chaz's room or car
Those are for the hellborn demons obviously you stoopid
Does disease still exist in Hell? I mean, Adam talks about herpes and he's in heaven, so I imagine the literal torture dimension would have diseases just as bad to warrant protection.
de-canonized Loona pilot syphilis
So do male sinner-demons like Angel-Dust, Alastor, Husk and so forth just dry-nut? Or do they still nut but are just shooting 100% blanks?
Also even if sinners can't reproduce normally, That's male sinners fricking female sinners.
Assumedly, A scenario has never presented itself in this universe yet where a male-sinner contaminates a hellborn half-angels womb with human jizz
By infertile it should very obviously mean infertile to ALL demons, whether hellborn or another sinners, easy with your charlastor fantasies lol
>by polluting his daughters womb with his sinner-overlord seed.
>a male-sinner contaminates a hellborn half-angels womb with human jizz
Get that hand out from below the computer desk good sir.
We all know these two are going to frick
>vivzie says Alastor is ace despite being an obvious sexyman ship bait
>people ship him either with Charlie or her fricking dad
Kek, deserved
>two whole fricking episodes leaked and there’s barely any discussion about it
That’s how you know this show isn’t just bad, it’s BORING
I think it's simply because the hype has died down, and people are waiting for the rest of the show to be leaked
There was more discussion for the hypothetical fanfic leaks about Roo(t) then there were for TWO EPISODES being leaked
You missed the last 24 hours of discussions we've had, by now everyone's already seen the episodes and the discussion is more just people reiterating how much they either hate or love the show.
Things'll kick up once the show hits A24 officially.
We're on thread, what, four of the leaks.
That's decent.
A lot of what there is to discuss has already been brought up.
>over 24 hours since leaks
>no one's made webms yet
yep. it's just mediocre.
>tfw it’s so shit no one’s even bothering to record and spread it around
Kek
Adam really gets the best jokes at least from my point of view he is the only actual funny character
Adam Spin-off when
>Everybody Loves Adam
He's best boy followed by Pentious and Vox
Frick Adam.
>Frick Adam
Gladly if you say so!
Not that kind of frick!
Too late!
I HATE YOU STOP FRICKING POSTING THIS FAT BLACK moron
Anyone else think he is going to have a Handsome Jack moment? Where yeah he's an butthole but when he loses he points out how they fricking ruined everything with the Garden stunt, how Hell is filled with monsters and how the angels are the good guys?
THE DUET THAT SAVED THE SHOW!
Adam's song was better get rekt hell shitters
Adam's song actually felt threatening.
Vox and Al's song just sounded like two gays slap-fighting over who did their villain makeup better.
Adam's song was basically "I'm an arse and we like killing your sheeple because we're arses xD." It works very well as a character song for him, being what he is. It's not really threatening, especially with the "bah nah nah nah nah guitar solo frick yeah" stuff. It does grow on you with repeat listenings.
The language in the Vox/Alastar song wasn't as piercing (you're looking at the future, he's the shit that comes before that), but the delivery and structure of the song more than makes up for it. Vox getting bodied was not good for his character, but the talk-show first intro/stanza had strong personality/style. Alastar maintaining a steady, bemused tone throughout it was also well-done in terms of how he'd approach a song battle. There was stronger distinction between the body of the song and the chorus/hook, as well as a catchier hook.
Adam's was too fast and never really kicked into gear, but it was second best after the Al & Vox song.
Adam was such an unlikable douchebag (probably intended by Vivzie to make heaven seem like trash incarnate) that I'm shocked he's not kicked out of Hell for BEING such a douchebag. Adam wasn't perfect in the Bible but he was still an honest man, trying to do what was best, this Adam is a completely different being that what even a surface level understanding of Adam can get you, and frankly his song is just a cheap take on Fizzarolli's songs from Helluva Boss tbh
That's my other complaint with him, he's Adam in name only. Him not even being corrupted further adds to this.
As Adam lazily sat on his angelic chair up in heaven, he stated aloud, "Damn I love being an Angel, and white!", as he shoved another rib down his electronic faceplate. "I-I k-know hell's population i-is out of control, its a b-bad s-situation, i-its taking a toll.", said Lucifer's hot but boring looking daughter; "Shut up woman" came the reply from Adam as chunks of BBQ ribs sputtered out of his mouth. "B-But if we rehabilitate the sinners in my hazbin hotel, there won't be any n-need for you to t-travel to hell. These sinners are innocent and victims in all of this."
"Sounds like woke nonsense to me", stated the angel as he directed Lute, his far more sexier looking second in command, to fly out and bring him more ribs and kill two hundred sinners as penance for Charlie's comments. Completely unaware of the fact he was in Heaven and Lute was in Hell.
Adam cracked a Budweiser as he proceeded to tell Charlie he is going to bring the extermination forward by six months, just cause. Before he lets out a massive burp as he orders his golden girls to throw out the demon. "Kek" was Adam's final reply as he watched the wannabe anti-christ burst into tears. For good measure, Adam orders Charlie's papers to be burnt, uttering "This is based."
Holy Kino.
>"Damn I love being an Angel, and white!"
Funny but Adam is an iraqi.
The song itself was Kino, and the ending of Alastor going demonic while saying he's going to destroy Vox's 'status quo' was great too. It completely sold me on Vox's VA and even made me warm up to Alastor's. But it would have been better if it affected Alastor in some way like it did with Vox, it's fine that Alastor 'beat' Vox, but Alastor coming out unscathed, on top of what happens later in the episode, makes the Vox and the Vees in general look unthreatening in their very first appearance.
>Those red-lines down his back, shoulder and neck
S...Scarred Alastor canon?....B...ba...BASED????
I actually had a hard time choosing between them. Adam's is legit a good, catchy, charismatic villain song. I had to give it to the duet because I like the style a little more and it's a little more fun and clever.
>TURN THE TEE-VEE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO000000OO0000000OOOOOOOOOO000000000000000NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!11!!11!!!1!!111!!!!!111!!!!!
I laughed.
Why does everybody like Adam so much? He was shit, he acts EXACTLY like Blitzo, Mammon, and Chaz and acts just like any other Sinner. He was probably the worst thing of the show to me so far.
Probably the VA being fun with him
Technically speaking he wasn't in Hell.
I meant to say Heaven, sorry, I'm shocked he wasn't kicked out of Heaven for being such a sinful being like the members of C.H.E.R.U.B were in Helluva Boss (but that implies Vivzie cares about her universes rules and consistency and consequences)
Cinemaphile only likes him because they share his ideals and he's the perfect character to use as a mouth-piece for their issues with the show. I imagine once he gets his shit kicked in they'll hate him.
it's the stella effect, main characters are very shitty that make the character who we are supposed to hate likeable
The difference between Helluva and Hazbin is that Charlie is a good person and is trying to help others. She's someone to root for, whereas IMP is just all dicks so you want them to get fricked up.
yeah but charlie is just one characters why the others are all dicks too. also her idea makes no sense
>also her idea makes no sense
Yeah, Viv seems to be actively avoiding the concept of God and genuine repentance. Which has the nasty side effect of making it unclear if it's even possible for sinners to be redeemed. She's basing this entire strategy off nothing but hope.
>She's basing this entire strategy off nothing but hope.
Especially after the angels explicitly say that it's not happening and Charlie...just keeps on with the plan. Doesn't tell anyone.
Kinda weird to just toss the premise in the first episode. It would've hit harder if they'd shown sinners legitimately engaging in self-improvement and atonement, somewhat refuting the skeptics, and then near the end of the series hit with "it was all for naught".
Perhaps they're intending a thing where the good angels will be convinced, and Adam/the bad ones forced to give in, but only after the ramping up the Heaven-Hell conflict that the season trailer showed.
Is the "dude bro school prankster jerk" personality, Blitzo is just a sexpest
It's because we're not supposed to like him. We like Mammon too because he's a bastard the show doesn't pretend to be anything else.
He's literally me
He's literally daddy material, impossible to not like him
I remember when audition-sheet-leakeranon dropped Adam's bio and lines nearly everyone clowned on his character and dialogue. It is pretty.. intriguing. It's kinda fun, watching people change sides.
I mean, his dialogue still is crap, not sure why it's suddenly considered "cool" to some.
Yeah his voice acting doesn't save how badly written his dialogue is.
it helps a bit at least
His dialogue has been fine so far, time will tell if those shitty lines are still in the show or if they were just reference lines for the auditions and were never used again
Best case scenario is Vivzie saw those lines get leaked and realized how crap they were and decided to remove them.
>he acts EXACTLY like Blitzo
The difference is that the show doesn't try to woobifie him for the audience to like and pity him. Same with how Chaz was almost universally liked despite being Blitzo with a difference being that he wasn't shielded from the consequences of his actions by meta bullshit and writer favoritism.
He's allowed to be an butthole. True unapologetic butthole, without the creator forcefully trying to whitewash him into some kind of traumatised uwu gay bean.
From the writing perspective his character makes no sense and his very presence is pants on head moronic to it's very core, it's so moronic that everyone who saw the audition sheets leak thought they were fake because it was so moronic.
It makes the show that tries to take itself seriously come off disonantly comical. It falls flat in it's seriousness in the meta context. But Adam doesn't asks you to treat him seriously, he just does whatever the frick he wants while the protagonists are crying or some shit in this comical ass show.
It's not good writing, it's a direct result of bad writing actually. But even from bad writing one can gleam some entertainment.
I weirdly can get along pretty well with overtly-butthole type people. You know exactly how they feel, and if you don't yield to their bullshit they can often be pretty willing, because you're the only person that hasn't shut them completely out and will listen to them. You just have to make sure not to stoop to their level, because two butthole get toxic FAST. Sure they can be draining, but if they get the self-awareness to cool down they can be pretty alright.
It's petty, passive-aggressive spiteful people that are TRULY the worst. They'll smile right at your face while scheming how to hurt you, or when to explode at a minor infraction you've committed.
And it's DAMN evident in the show itself and what type of people the writers are. Adam is a based butthole that keeps the afterlife in order. He says some naughty words and literally holds the balance of souls in line. Stolas wants to be an uwoo goodbye that left his DAUGHTER IN DANGER because Blitzo gives him a heckin' wholesome homosexual erection. TWICE.
Really good analysis there
His is literally the only properly voiced role in the show. Every other one is either an uncanny downgrade to the originals, a complete miscast, or downright unprofessional.
Not a high bar.
It's fricking hilarious that people are saying they're not going on Youtube, Twitter, TikTok or Instagram until Friday
as they don't want to get spoiled. JUST WATCH THE FRICKING LEAKS.
Episode 1 is a 8/10
Episode 2 I couldn't finish but it seemed fine
My only real gripes are that some of the new voice casts is just weird. Vaggie's actress sounds bored as hell, Katie sounds like Blitzo and Keith David just feels really out of place.
As a good Christian lad, I felt a little dirty listening to that opening narration. Also, I'm pretty sure Christianity doesn't acknowledge the being known as Lilith so I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the matter.
Cinemaphile bros... I'm just on the first episode and my disappointment cannot be understated.
I've been waiting like 5 or whatever how many years its been since the pilot dropped, was hoping that my worst fears wouldn't come true, that things would get better with Helluva Boss and Hazbin wouldn't go down the same path.
But no. So far, I am very wrong and Cinemaphile was right about this ending up being mid.
>Boring, cliche origin story about sin and hell. Literally no creativity.
>Adam turned into a death angel and is somehow more horny and annoying than the Helluva cast at their worst? Like when Adam is on screen I'm thinking "what the frick am I watching", and not in a good way like I would in one of the wackier Archie Sonic issues.
>Angel Dust does not sound like Angel Dust.
>Vaggie sounds off.
>They actually went ahead and made the meta joke about Vaggie's name just being short for vegana.
>The music bits are great but feel so out of place and forced.
>All of this seems to be setting up to become a generic heaven bad, hell good story.
>How the frick does this have more horny jokes than Helluva now? Helluva horny jokes were generally okay to me, even when they got more repetitive but it feels so off and way too much in this show, and I'm just on EPISODE ONE so far.
Anons, I still intend to watch this season in full, but I know for a fact that even more disappointment is on the way. The real question is how much pain this is going to inflict on me.
Episode 2 honestly is a noticeably improvement imo.
Yes. But in order for that, you have to concede that the guys are stealing the show just like in Helluva. This isn't "the female one" like she said it would be in her Twitter ramblings.
Adam is lame conceptually but the VA does a decent job. Val is a misfire in the voice. Also Charlie and Vaggie still just seem like good friends and nothing more. Chaggie isn't convincing.
>Also Charlie and Vaggie still just seem like good friends and nothing more. Chaggie isn't convincing.
You're right, they even seem less like a couple in the show so far than they were in the pilot. Viv selling out even more than what we thought?
I just find funny how viv just ovrsexualize gay males but ''muh lesbians are pure''. pretty sure theere would never be a sexual chaggie scene
Even Moxxie and Millie, a straight couple, are more lovey-dovey and sexual than Chaggie kek
Oh and one more thing to add for episode one.
I had thought that Angel Dust got done dirty but Jesus Christ, Katie Killjoy doesn't even sound like herself AT ALL.
God I hate Viv, as it is, I was gonna pirate this anyway but still... this should've been the old VAs' moments. They had the magic. The magic is gone now
They clearly cast some troony and it's pissing me off. What the frick is wrong with a woman being voiced by an actual woman in this day and age?
I think Killjoy's VA is the same as Blitzo's. Why they had him do it who the frick knows.
Oh. Well I'm still mad about it.
Because it is and is based her on one of his sketches. Now we need brit bong Branden Demon and Old Man Branden Demon.
>They clearly cast some troony and it's pissing me off.
No it's just Brandon Rogers
>troony bad
Grow up. That's not the thing that's the problem here. Viv canned the OG VAs, basically said "Thanks for getting me to where I am but... bye bye!", and then got new VAs that just don't have the same charm. Alastor is an exception imo. The did a good job with the new VA pick.
Yes troony bad, now jump off a cliff you delusional freak
>Brandon's normal voice sounds like a trannie pretending to be a women.
kek
he's gonna go for it!
>Implying Hogan would job to Stolas
HULKAMANIA NEVER JOBS TO DEMON FOREIGNERS BROTHER
that's macho man, brother, his mega powers compatriot
Will he show up in the show?
There is speculation that St Peter will also show up, so it seems somewhat likely. Just hope that if they are included, they won't be all like Adam, otherwise it would get too boring even for me
I legitimately believe Azrael would have worked better for "Adam" than Adam; https://hazbin-hotel-journey-to-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Azrael
This wiki had a better idea on that and it's also the SAME wiki that AyyLmao shat on recently.
>AyyLmao
The opinions of foreigners mean nothing to me.
>DID U NO DIS ABOOT HELLUVA BOSSS?/HAZBEEN HOTEL?
Who do you think is getting the most flack for the leaks in the Hazbin Hotel staff?
"The hacker known as Cinemaphile"?
A24 for having the API information out in the open?
Brightcove for easily fooled security?
I love how Sir Pentious was so popular they made him an actual member of the main cast instead of some random one-off guy.
Not only that but he is STILL best boy
makes me wonder what shit did he do to get sent to Hell in the first place.
Honestly seeing Baxter in the second episode made me really glad; happy to see his character wasn't forgotten about. Looking forward to seeing him later on down the line.
Someone said that Roo looked like an evil emo Carmen Sandiego and now I can't unsee it
She looks like vivzie finally giving in to her fantasy of making Charlie evil and black/red
Holy shit do I hate Velvet's voice and yeah Adam is the best character so far
What does Velvette sound like? Curious.
Don't know how to describe it. But it's certainly not the hyperactive social media-obsessed diva I was expecting.
it's somewhat deep for a skinny short girl, i don't think the accent helps much
Really wish I could get my hands on the model sheets, just to see what the animators were using.
Not watching, how bad is it
As bad as the FNAF movie
In that case, it'll leave people not aware of the series completely baffled, while the fan cult calls it 10/10 amazing.
Average 5/10 by ""adult"" animation standards.
Rather mediocre and confusing by any other scale, especially if you're an outsider to it.
Better question, how fricking annoying is it? How frustrated did you get by how homosexual it gets and its depiction of characters like gary stu Alastor and (why arent you a devil) Angels?
Bad enough that it makes HB look better, and not as annoying as you think. Just in the between of meh and "this was 4 years worth of hype?"
At least there's nothing as egregiously bad as episodes like The Circus, Unhappy Campers, or Seeing Stars... yet
Yeah. That yet really stings at the end cause you know it is gonna be coming. Even when it goes well Vivzie shows her real colors, especially when she has hands on the wheel and everyone is treating her like George Lucas on the set of Phantom Menace.
Do you think Roo is an actual character, or more of a thing/entity/creature?
Also, it's only a few hours until the embargo drops! Will the reviews be good and Vivzie and co will celebrate? Will the reviews be bad, and then Vivzie is liking tweets about how "it's for the fans"? Will the reviews be mid, and we all live in the mid-ness of it all?
An entity with some degree of character. She'll basically be the Nyaralthotep of the setting
Rotten Tomatoes score if it gets one will be 60-low 70 range. I might actually die laughing if it gets anything below 60 but I doubt it.
Now that the resident dronegays in the thread have reminded me, probably a similar sort of deal to the Absolute Solver from MD. As in an evil force / entity with a character, and probably speaks through another character. If not that, then just an uber-powerful demon-like character.
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I've listened to the vox/alastor song 3-4 times and I don't even like this show
>Make tweet criticising Viv's slow response to the leak on twitter (Took 14 hours)
>Be little bit of a dick & question if the leaks are being removed because of protecting her IP or because she can't take the shitstorm of criticism people are giving her
>200 people see tweet
>Get Blocked
How does this woman function? The slightest air of disliking her is met with a block. If she leaves her gentrified California safe zone she's going to explode
Video of Charlie and Angel Dust voice actor advertising Hazbin Hotel on normie daytime TV
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/entertainment/the-scene/new-york-live/erika-henningsen-blake-roman-take-us-inside-new-animated-musical-series/5026201/
looks like hiring celebrities has the advantage of celebrity promotion rounds
Really makes me think how outsiders will react to the first episode, it doesn't explains shit if you haven't watched the pilot
Charlie's plan is literally to make Andrei Chikatilo and Richard Ramirez do Trust falls, Act-outs and like 'compliment something good about the person to your right in the circle' to 'turn them into good people'
Even IF she is able to sway the Angel's and the Hugbox 'Hotel' becomes a viable thing, She's utterly FRICKED due to her own innocence.
Alastor could have been some archetype of every serial killer rolled into one to challenge Charlie's beliefs, but unfortunately they're gonna make him into a sort of alright guy who's working with someone else.
It’s pretty funny, didn’t vivzie b***h about Alastor actually being SUPER evil, but then NuAlastor is basically a heroic guardian protector of Charlie?
Honestly, The only reason her delusion of this ever working hasn't shattered yet is because the only three real guests in her Hotel who i can see even being in line for being 'redeemed' [Angel-Dust, Husk, Pentious] are soft-gay-bean-boi's who only seem to be in hell for completely vague shit like like dealing drugs or being drunks before they died. Whose crimes don't seem 'that bad'
Wasn't Angel also a mobster, so he's probably murdered more than a few people, plus the whole drugs things.
>Ok, Next John Wayne Gacy, You say something nice to Angel Dust since he's sitting to your le-
>JEFFERY! STOP BITING RICHARD'S FINGERS!
>Jeffery Dahmer's cannibal cooking hour is 'the only thing i enjoy watching on that idiot box' according to Alastor.
>Asks him for an autograph when he meets him.
HERE'S JOHN WAYNE GACY AT THE FIRST THANKSGIVING.
I WANT TO DRESS UP LIKE A CLOWN AND HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN AND KILL THEM, PILGRIMS.
Can Roo be defeated?
Is Roo even a thing that can be defeated? I mean, the Root Of All Evil sounds like a very abstract concept. It's quite hard to defeat a concept
Not unless you're a demi god like Heracles. The man wrestled Thanatos to save a friends wife.
I'm guessing Charlie is going to get the all the Hellborn demons, Sinners, Angels, and Winners to use the power of friendship to care-bare stare Roo into oblivion.
It's so incredibly dumb that it would actually fit in with the possible story details that have been leaked so far because they're also really dumb.
Holy shit Hazbin Hotel ending where they defeat Roo leaked!
<-
>Adam proceeds to scream "Stupid fricking little c**ts live? Frick you frick you frick you frick you!"
>Talks to the angel next to him. "The mortals should've had this in the bag. How the frick did they and the sinners stop this with their 9 year old level mindesets?!"
Pandora's Box much? The power to over come great evil through hope.
You have to be part divine to even consider messing with a concept.
Get a pagan god to do it. Pretty sure sealing away evil is common in nearly every culture.
Do pagan gods exist in Hazbin? I'm pretty sure one of those gods could influence concepts.
I was hoping for some Greek Mythology references due to Greek Heroes like Heracles achieving redemption despite the crimes they have committed.
Gotta say, the antics of Zeus and Hera fits more into Hazbin Hotel.
Bunch of buttholes abusing their power because of their status? Makes sense.
everyone will climb into Alastor's tummy
Maybe Roo is defeated by Alastor who proceeds to swallow up Roo like how Zebraman defeated that slime monster at the end of Zebraman 2 and were left with a giant bloated Alastor balloon that floats.
Calm down Keno
What do you think of this redditor's theories?
https://old.reddit.com/r/HazbinHotel/comments/192omr1/six_theories_on_the_root_of_all_evil_herself/
Like theory number 5 suggesting Roo is possibly originating from the tree of knowledge, a literal Root. Do you think that's a possibility that Vivzie would choose that?
Evil is a consequence of Free Will. Taking away the ability to do evil is effectively enslaving a person.
>giving a frick about redditors
What does Velvette sound like?
Posh Bri'ish lady
Hot.
So does heaven have like south park rules in which only mormons get to heaven or something? Also you'd think some sinners would want out of hell anyway since they were casted down possibly for doing something minor like fapped once in NNN or stealing a candy bar. As it stands most of the sinners are pure evil/degenerates which makes me to think Hell takes whatever good has on their soul and destroys it once one manifest there.
I still think Angel Dust's name is foreshadowing but I'm not sure if it's a good or bad end for him.
WHERE ARE THEY
Bro I think they're at least a month away
We don't know, I think we're not going to get a good look at how Heaven works until Emily and Sera are introduced. The teen camp counselor from HB got sent to Hell though.
real black people have to WAIT for the whites to be done.
There's literally an episode in season 1 called 'welcome to heaven' iirc, so their probably there.
There's apparently going to be an episode called "Welcome to Heaven."
They probably show up after that as the moderate/reasonable side in Heaven.
All this talk about the Absolute Solver influencing the Hazbinverse has awoken something in me
>the beginning of the Hazbin Universe
>God and his angels are making the Earth
>God and his angels are struggling to finish the Earth
>Suddenly, a sign appears before them
>A invitation not of this God's creation to have a Solver help finish His Creation
>The Helluvaverse God, in a offer of generosity, allows the Solver to help (but only if He takes all the credit) and invites it in
>God and his angels eventually make the Earth
>Cut to Lucifer, who is beginning to notice his beauty
>A form of the Solver appears in front of him, offering to show his beauty in full if it agrees to work with it
>Lucifer agrees, desiring to see his beauty
>The Solver allows him to see his beauty using forms from other universes its consumed
>Lucifer eventually begins to think he's greater than God and the Helluvaverse story begins
>Cut to far in each show
>The Angels and Hell are in a full on war
>Both sides are wanting complete exterminations of each other
>Lucifer finally getting back into Heaven to try to confront God and get his revenge
>God showcasing his righteous anger towards Lucifer and the sinners of Hell
>Suddenly, the mountains of corpses from the relentless slaughter, the mounds of demons, angels and humans, begin to generate a dark yellowish hue
>Lucifer and God, once locked in a great battle, look towards the ruined Earth, shocked by the now yellowish hue coating the planet
>They both realize in unison what's really going on
>The exterminations...
>The piles...
>The war...
>This wasn't a battle between them at all.
>This as a ritual to summon it, to truly let it consume everything
>"Hello again. Did you miss us? It is time to collect our debts. Giggle."
>They team up to try to stop it, the forces of Heaven and Hell uniting
>They are overwhelmed and slaughtered in seconds.
>It was never something they could comphrend, after all.
>Heaven and Hell.
>United in [null].
Would rather watch pagan gods interacting with hell. At least it would be thematically accurate.
Genuinely pretty good crossover fanfic potential, depending on the direction the rest of the Hazbin story goes.
Vivzie would never write anything as kino, though.
>THE UNIVERSE IS DEAD.
>MOTHER MAKES FUEL FROM THE BONES.
>HEAVEN AND HELL ARE FULL.
>[null]
Picrel reminds me of an idea I had
>All of a sudden, the Heaven and Hells of the Hellaverse and the Ultrakillverse messily merge
>The layers of hell corresponding to Lust, Gluttony, Wrath, and Greed experience several climate disasters at once
>They get severe windstorms, collapsing into flesh pits, flooding, and the sudden rising of Earth structures and scalding gold dunes respectively
>Every layer below wrath in the Ultrakill hell becomes some weird inter-layer bridges
>While demons (the stone kind) and husks terrorize sinners and hellborn alike
>In lust Minos steadily becomes more popular among the Hellborn much to the jealousy of the OTHER king of lust
>Sisyphus and his army kill Mammon and generally wreak havoc in greed
>Charlie starts to fangirl over Minos due to his utopia-fying of Lust
>Lucifer gets constantly mocked by ultrakill Hell (which is alive btw)
>Meanwhile in heaven the angels are just generally confused with Adam and Gabriel becoming rivals
and God loses another universe, another creation.
He weeps, for even a single realm lost is to him is more tragic than the loss of a mother's son
But alas he could do nothing
FOR IF THERE IS GOOD, THERE IS EVIL.
IF THERE IS ONE, THERE IS ZERO.
IF THERE IS SOMETHING FULL,
THERE
IS
[null]
>Oi, mate. Heard you saying that we Roos were the Root of all evil. I'll have you know we're more majestic than any of those lousy convicts sent to Australia. Sure, we live it up in what the Brits tried to use as a trash dump for their overpopulated prisons, but that doesn't mean we're the Root Of All Evil in Hell.
I just want to know why it looks like everyone either died in the 00s or the first half of the 20th century (except Valentino).
>A nuclear war happened.
>One day people stop showing up in hell
>Or heaven
>Lucifer+Charlie initially overjoyed because this means no more overpopulation or exterminations
>General meeting of The Angels + Lucifer called to figure out what the fricks going on
>"This is like...Abnormal....This is like messing with the natural balance...or smth....Lucifer, Send one of your henchmen to earth to tell us all what's going on!"
>Someone incarnates on earth to figure out whats going on.
>PicRel
>Humanity is severed from the Divine light
>They are now being killed/replicated over and over again for a lump sum
>Mega corporations take over
>Shit gets crazier and crazier
>Lucifer doesn't know whether to laugh or fricking cry.
I want to see if Hadrian is either in hell or heaven.
IVDEA DELENDA EST
Fellow Dovahatty Enjoyer?
The modern world is double hell
Vox was supposed to be 1950s, but you wouldn't think so. People each acting like the era they died in seems like an idea that was too difficult and they just left it behind.
Someone here (and I'm too lazy to google) said Vox was one of those mega-church cult leaders which made me think he was 80s or 90s. Yeah he doesn't really come across as 1950s.
The sheet said "1950s cult leader." But I'm not getting any 1950s from him.
The sheet says "once a cult leader" and "TV show host from the 50s".
Assuming they didn't drop/re-envision elements of him, the cult thing could've happened later.
Like if his TV show had lost popularity, so he pivoted into televised cult antic to maintain his fame and audience.
Though other than some of the uniform choices for his song, there really isn't a fifties vibe to him.
the idea may have been scrapped along the way, or its too early for the show to showcase it
He literally dons a priest outfit during the song with Alastor in episode 2
Wikipedia says that the term "televangelism" was coined in the 1950s, but that specific kind of flashy "buy my stuff" preaching comes decades later.
Yeah, if they were going for the 50's as his era they could have at least given him an older model of TV for a head. Honestly it'd be nice to break up the cast of skinny twinks by giving him a bulky silhouette based on old televisions.
He probably had that when he first fell to Hell but kept changing his look to keep up with the times since Vox is obsessed with the lastest tech.
I think one of the biggest factor of any character now is that their death date actually holds no significance anymore. Not even Alastor's. They are simply there to hold an aesthetic that Viv likes, so nothing about them should be anything else but that. It is funny to bring up their death dates up tho, particularly with Angel cause he went from a 1920's or whatever Gangster into a sadboy uwu popstar.
Wish there were more biblical figures like Cain and Abel.
would it be too early for art requests? otherwise I'd love see something with the two moth doorkeeper girls
Try convincing me that one of them isn't a Fizzarolli robot sex doll
What media characters would you guys like to see in Charlies hotel?
Isn't it obvious?
Makes me cry every time. :C
Would like to see all of hell tremble before him. Pretty sure he can fight and kill exterminators by the hundreds.
Do not deny him his doobie.
>ZEUS! YOU HAVE BEEN HOGGING THE BOOF! PASS THE GOD DAMN SPLIFF BEFORE I PULL OUT THE GAT!
He made a deal with Mephisto and got to talk to God.
Killer of all monsters.
Great game.
SUFFERING BUILDS CHARACTER
The overlords are the lord souls.
>Everyone gets parried by a random human with a shield including Lucifer.
Can't beat the classics. Wouldn't be his first time in going to an underworld and messing shit up.
RIP AND TEAR
Bib and toot
>Goes to the Hotel
>Demands TP
>There is no TP
>Tears apart the Hotel
>Amasses army
>Overthrows Satan
>Conquers Hell
>Series end with the forces of Hell invading earth to get TP for their bungholes.
Cornholio's power level is not to be underestimated
I want Charlie to help him with his Beast of Darkness.
could maybe work
The better Lucifer.
>Giggle
..Well.. the Hotel is kind of fricked and will become an Eldritch nightmare hellscape. But at least Alastor is going to have someone he can have fun with. I'm sure they'll be great playmates.
put him in i wanna see what happens
Da ork boyz wold luv to krump som birdy gitz
Do aliens also go to Christian hell?
This is the reason governments won’t acknowledge alien life yet. Religious funddies will lose their shit when being told they’re wrong
>Implying it wouldn't be funny as frick to watch them piss and shit themselves and make their on Xcom thinking that it will somehow prove that humanity is Gods chosen or something.
Why would alien life "destroy" religion, is the universe so small and God so narrow-scoped he can only care about a single planet? I don't get it
Now multiverse stuff is just stupid, it's inherently unprovable by being something completel yout of our plane of reality, and even if it was real, alternate realities are utterly meaningless to us because they're so inaccessible
Civilised alien life would destroy religion, because all (mainstream) religion centers around Humanity, and that the Heavens and the Earth were created for mankind. If alien civilisations exist, all that goes to shit for the exact reasons you stated in your post.
Or maybe not, they could be wedged in as later creations or something, with humanity "simply" being Gods favorite
I would love to sit and listen to the preachers trying to justify their claims. "Oh really? When was humanity created?" Uh... "(insert arbitrary timeline here).
Oh really? We emerged from the great primordial soup 6 trillian Quigon Jinn's ago!
>Humanity becomes the Imperium of Man
>All Xenos are abominations outside of God's light, and Humanity are God's chosen
Honestly? Based.
>Humanity starts the age of strife.
Could be fun ngl.
I mean, yeah the EARTH is created for humankind. But there's a LOT of planets in the universe that really don't seem to have any apparent service to us trillions of miles away. Those didn't destroy religion!
But I don't recall say, the bible (since it's what HB/HH is poorly basing its lore around) outright excluding alien planets, just not needing to mention them. Like, the bible never mentions Kangaroos or Armadillos either, because being animals on completely separate continental masses, they're wholly irrelevant to the middle eastern region the Bible takes place in. The religion wasn't destroyed by finding these animals never referenced.
You're acting like religion wasn't created by men writing books and claiming the words in said book were from a creator God in order to control the masses. Which is why texts like the Bible are solely focused on Earth and not the wider universe which we now know exists, while the men back then were completely clueless and limited in their worldview to our planet. If civilized aliens are proven to exist, why would religious texts not mention that God created life out in the rest of the Universe and not just on Earth?
Because "holy men" back then didn't know about the possibility of life on other planets, or how incredibly vast the true scale of the Universe is. Their perception of the world was small, while a truly omnipotent God would be all knowing and would have revealed this information in his holy book.
>All of these incredibly wise and profitable insights onto how to better the human condition, yet none of them ever bothered to give us the most essential answer to why the human condition is something that even has a purpose.
>Best you'll get is a life-centric answer of "life exists, so keep it that way" and not one that serves any scope beyond that, you know when we're all DEAD, he only true constant
I hate being just smart enough to ponder these questions but far too stupid to ever answer them
Or maybe the aliens weren't mentioned because why would God show people other beings from planets they may never reach or contact? There's no real reason to show extraterrestrials when giving someone a vision
>control the masses
Go away, this isn't some atheist echo chamber where you can spout your bullsht
>echo chamber
>demands to only hear viewpoints he agrees with
Ironic. have a nice day, you waste of space.
I didn't say that, I meant that I've heard enough "religion is a tool to control the masses" crackpot theories to the point Im starting to lose brain cells at the glance of the term "control the masses"
Basically male Charlie but more realistic and sarcastic.
>What doth Hell?
>is hell the most of it or is it just the tingling sensation you get at the pit of your toes?
>Hell! The universes glove box, I have been trudging through this wasteland of negative P's to the positive U's in search of the one thing I need.
>My mommy.
MAIDO IN HEAVEN
Gabriel Ultrakill
Yoshikage Kira. Staring as Charlie's hands.
Instead of seeing a character from a single show, I would like to see one of the characters in Hazbin watch Wonder Showzen.
Damn Velvette's old design was so bad
I liek both
I only had this tv for 20 minutes but if anynore takes him away I'll go to a McDonald's playground area and kill myself Infront of your children
They still have those?
no, lol
Shame, kids will never get the true Mcdonalds experience again.
Waiting 20 minutes for a cold burger?
No, getting stuck inside the play place and crying for mommy at the top of those weird bubble looking glass windows they put into it.
>Not tricking other kids into going down the slides really fast because the screws at the end give you really bad static
Oh damn I forgot about those things.
oh well ok. don't have a nice day.
good lord this franchise has so much merch already
To be fair, it has been in development for 4 years alongside Helluva Boss, of course there's a shitton of merch, because that's were the real money from the show comes from! Merchandising, merchandising, merchandising!
>radio demon gone for 7 years
>Lilith hasn't spoken to charlie in 7 years
How is this going to play out?
Alastor is actually Lilith in drag after going on a 7 year long cocaine bender.
Lilith spent 7 years coaching Alastor on how to become a perfect husband for Charlie!
With people like you, i don't blame Viv for having disdain towards your ship
When's Viv ever had good taste in anything? she wouldn't know a good ship.
Approving Loona's, Verosika's, Stella's, and Octavia's designs
Verosika is cool, yeah.
loona is a mute background prop now.
They did Stella dirty and character assassinated her.
>They did Stella dirty and character assassinated her.
Which backfired because I enjoy her more than Stolas now. She needs to send more goons to frick up his day on a regular basis.
If this theory turns to truth, I guarantee there will be a 40 page porn comic about Rosie/Lilith "coaching" Alastor in preparation for him to "protect" Charlie
Of course it'll end with Alastor discovering Charlie is already with Vaggie, since apparently no one predicted Charlie would actually shack up with a woman.
>That pic
Jeez, the amount of shippy fanart that is going to age... interestingly, to say the least if this thing is not bullshit is going to be hillarious
Rosie is Charlie's mother.
Let's also talk about the whole Lilith staying quiet for 7 years. This is supposed to be the voice of reason who tells Charlie to do this whole "save your people" shit. Charlie just hero worships her mother but doesn't want to talk to her or let her know what she is doing? Least the pilot hinted her parents at least being supportive in some capacity. In this they just seem like strangers she wants to impress.
>Charlie just hero worships her mother but doesn't want to talk to her or let her know what she is doing?
First episode addresses this (kind of), Lilith won't answer Charlie's calls. That doesn't answer the question of why nobody has tried looking for her though. We might find out when Lucifer shows up.
It apparently took Lilith and Alastor seven years to come up with whatever their plan is
Scenario A: Lilith is undercover and going by a different name for some unknown agenda, recruits Alastor to watch over her daughter in the meantime. Somethin somethin, this dumb Roo character is revealed as big bad (lame outcome).
Scenario B: Lilith is off doing something, and got Alastor ready to be the perfect husband for Charlie so they can take the throne together.
That's cool but honestly I don't want to watch it after she threw all the VA’s under the bus.
If Hazbin Hotel Season 1 gets a DVD in the future, they ought to include the pilot as a special feature.
after digging and scrounging i finally found some crew art of chaggie kissing. there's a lot of pins where they look like they're a second from tonguing each other's pussies though.
So is Rosie having the same look the cannibals have mean she is a maneater?
Oh ho here she comes, watch out boy she'll chew you up~
>Ha ha Alastor! you are banging my mother!
>Alastor fricked Charlie, her mom, AND her dad
That one of Alastor and Rosie chewing a heart together?
Do you think Lillith and Eve are friends or foes?
Enemies because I doubt vivzie has the self awareness to make two women “screwed over” by men get along with each other, they’ll be b***hy catfighting frenemies at best and actively hate each other and try to ruin each others lives and families at worst
But imagine if...
Vivzie like most fujo shits hates lesbians, Charlie/vegana are only a thing for muh lgbt points and to frick over Charlastor. Give up on your dream and die
>hates lesbians
Considering how defensive she gets over Charlie/Vaggie I doubt that. She will kill off Alastor if Charlastor shippers get too bold.
>Inb4 the giant tapeworm (root) springs out of fake Liliths mouth and into Rosie's.
The ultimate French kiss!
🙂
🙁 >_< eeeewwwwwww
Foes since she probably blames Lilith and Lucifer for what happened
Where was the theory created about Lilith being Rosie?
Imagine if this was your new body.
Wrong thread, moron
The circus is THATTA way, bub.
Pomni's design would actually fit that absurd sinner designs in the show. Just make her patern be black and red instead of red and blue
Wrong thread
Sexo both while they're wearing eachother clothes!
Pomni bawd sexo
Does the audio sound slightly "off" to anyone else? It's like you can clearly hear the voices are being recorded in a booth or aren't as clear as they should be for some reason.
Where did a theory about Lilith as Rosie come from?
Someone claiming to have worked on the show leaked it to that chaifootsteps person on tumblr.
>dronegays and Circusgays have united together in unison with leaks of Vivzie's show
You love to see it, folks.
>have united together
bro circusgays, dronegays and hazbingays are just one big circle
But I watch those two as well?
>he thinks that on this board there wasn't and isn't massive overlap
The Charlastor....
Nope, Alastor now is taken by Charlie's mom
Why can't he engage in some tag:mother/daughter?
Lilith (Rosie) is simply too possesive for that to work
I like seeing when people who weren't there to watch the leak happening on other social media sites guessing on how they think the leaks happened XD
root of evil is still stupid but i'm so looking forward to the reactions to this
Plenty of people have been speculating, making tons of fan content and simping over Rosie for years (or well, the idea everybody had of Rosie as her own character), being revealed that in the end all of that "character" was never actually real, and that was nothing more than just the simple "disguise" of another one sure is going to piss off more than one
I felt like they spilled the beans on Rosie the moment they said she wasn't a sinner.
Nothing has been said regarding Rosie as of yet in the show, afaik
>Nothing has been said regarding Rosie as of yet in the show, afaik
Okay Vizzie.
Alastor is an autistic one-pump chump who would cry during sex. He's like the Gaara of the Helluva-Hazbin verse, That is if Viv doesn't just decide to make him gay for the TV
When episode 3 and 4 are out on the 18th. And for further episodes.
Will an anon add them to the MEGA folder?
Am I understanding this correctly, that nearly the entire premise of the pilot has been abandoned?
No? As of episode 2, Charlie is still hoping to 'redeem' people and get them into heaven.
She's just going to have to actually convince the Angels to let her do it, And as of right now is leading everyone on. [Despite Adam telling her no, She goes back to Hotel and when asked by Vaggie how the meeting went, she says 'oh great great yeah!' etc
>telling a lie to her love one
That's a sin, Charlie!~
>Episode 1 and the main heroine is already lying to all her allies and lesbo girlfriend that their going to get in heaven if they act good enough, when really unless she changes Adam's mind somehow they literally can't.
How to create a contrived reason for everyone to get into a massive screaming match and run in separate directions to cue up tension for the ~3rd/4th season
>"She lied to all of us!, Let's go guys!"
The conflict element over Charlie's plan in the pilot was whether sinners could truly be redeemed, with everyone else (especially Alastar) being skeptical that they could change their ways.
Now, the entire plan is moot unless/until the angels completely change their views, forcing that into (at best) a secondary position, with likely added "I cleaned up my act for nothing? I'm going back to a life of sin" drama.
And the season 1 trailer suggests that doesn't happen until the 11th hour, if it happens.
I heard that Episodes 3 and 4 were trying to be leaked, just a rumor.
People have already seen ep 3 but no leaks of the video itself yet, just screenshots. We do already know the plot and what happens in it though.
Love that they still canonized Vel's old design in a way
Alastor/Vox song uploaded to YouTube, Looks like their making no effort at removing it.
>Comments
These people are eating this shit the frick up, Vivzie is gonna make bank for fricking over everyone around her, there is no divine justice.
>there is no divine justice
not 2 minutes in and Vaggie's new VA is fricking killing me. She's so bad.
I'm gonna be straight, most of the performances are mediocre at best, but they seriously fricked over Tom Trench, with the voice he has along with the animation, it made me think Katie was using him like a ventriloquist dummy.
Not good unless we see Charlie naked. "Adult animation" after all.
Where furry coombait?
Who the frick is the root of all evil
Man
Ligma Balls
Starts with a N, ends with a hard R
Alastor will eat Roo. Problem solved.
>story ends with Alastor cooking Roo into jambalaya and everyone eats her at a big party to celebrate peace with Heaven
Kino
New thread when?
This thread, Along with TADC really needs to be a #'d general with a standardised OP full of links at this point
dont suppose ep3 and the rest can be leaked?
Episode 3 probably exists to the backers somewhere (it was supposed to be a reward for backers), the rest of the series is time locked until the release day, we have the first 2 episodes because of A24 putting them in their website
I would assume Episodes 1 and 2 being leaked would have had something to do with the fact they were uploaded to A34's website prior to the rest of episodes, as viewing them early was meant to be a pre-order bonus exclusive to that site.
Episodes 3 and 4 will likely just be uploaded onto Prime within hours of them meant to be coming out to avoid this clusterfrick repeating.
I now ship Sally Acorn and Scotty Kilmer. The best Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile compromise ship