Just to clarify, the subtitles script for the first two episodes got leaked alongside some screenshots from the episodes, but we've yet to find access to the fully animated episodes. The website is keeping that on lock.
I hate to bring up the Crab man, but he was right about how Mike Myers' performance as Shrek elevates its script, delivery is half of what can make a line work.
a sinner having never killed an angel and nobody being around to see it and it being used by lute to justify wiping out hell is definitely a plot point
>Exterminators are already jobbing
Lo fricking l. I'll be honest, I'm not surprised but I'm still disappointed in that this is a rush job already. Show me a dead exterminator at the end of the season, not right now.
According to leaks the killer is Carmilla, one of the overlords. She better be super powerful or else one of the exorcists being killed so soon would be underwhelming as frick.
Well, considering she's heavily related to the manufacture of angelic weaponery (the only thing that is confirmed that can hurt Exterminators) MAYBE i can buy it
Well she researches the angelic weapons. Its possible she figured out a weapon that can kill an angel.
She was actually name dropped in helluva boss. she was behind a rifle that Striker tried to use to kill stolas. i don't know if they weapon would ahve been legitimately powerful enough to kill him but it was a threat not taken lightly. She might have created a weapon that can take out an exorcist.
I wonder how much Vivzie laughed at this while writing it, thinking to be the top of her own game. Not like I know what good humor is, but this is barely that.
Again, it is so weird how her usual cursing is so toned down from what we usually see of her. My theory is either >Corporate oversight >The actors, being the kind of broadway actors that Vivzie wants to rub elbows with, got creative input on their characters and how they wanted them to talk.
I found Valentino mentioning how Charlie has a manish name actually made me chuckle given how the assumption contrasting to her very unmanish character in general.
>Adam gets banished for being a mean poopoo head >Charlie still gives him the chance to join the hotel >He reluctantly accepts >Now he has to deal with a horny crazy shortstack who is wayyy too much even for his taste
In that case, I give credit for having enough sense of shame to hold back in that regard. I'll also grant her Saint Peter as well because when your story is concerned with entry into Heaven as a physical place, you pretty much have to include the Pearly Gates and Saint Peter, and it might be the case that he has a bit role in the story anyway. As for having Adam as an explicit villain, it's not like he's really a venerated figure to begin with, and his ultimate fate in regard to Heaven is completely unknown.
probably something the fans created to have more drama give more attention to Vivzie so someone can bother watch what bothered this elusive "guy" all of a sudden.
Is Hazbin even trending anywhere right now due to the premier?
I haven't seen anyone talk about the show at all aside from "muh uwu ship became canon" on Xtwitter
Are they talking about the anon who gave a summary of the first three episodes on here? Why do they keep stalking this place for leaks and getting mad that people who leak it also poke fun at the show?
considering her fanbase is teenagers instead of her actual targeted audience (actual people over 18+) who really don't know anything better to watch than this, this will be anything but a flop unfortunately
>cell networks exist in Hell >cell companies that run the networks exist in Hell >cellular contracts for service exist in Hell >monthly cell payments are a thing that exist in Hell >currency of some kind exists in Hell
See the rabbit hole this shit opens up? Like what the frick do dead people need money for, much less dead buttholes stuck in Hell?
I hate how they're trying to make Alastor intimidating when the 'Alastor and Lilith have been gone for years' thing is all the confirmation we need that he's just there to be Charlie's babysitter who was sent there by Rosie who is actually Lilith.
I hate how they're trying to make Alastor intimidating when the 'Alastor and Lilith have been gone for years' thing is all the confirmation we need that he's just there to be Charlie's babysitter who was sent there by Rosie who is actually Lilith.
This is just again just how Viv writes, and imagine if this actually was a web series. She'd probably rewrite them to be actually super sweet and "Um. Val doesn't like rape? It's just fantasies."
wha- but she- she is using lucifer as the devil of Helluvaverse and his whole point was defy god because he saw humanity as inferior why
JUST WHY THE FRICK WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT OF USING NAMES OF CHRISTIANS LORE IF YOU AIN'T GONNA USE GOD HIMSELF
wha- but she- she is using lucifer as the devil of Helluvaverse and his whole point was defy god because he saw humanity as inferior why
JUST WHY THE FRICK WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT OF USING NAMES OF CHRISTIANS LORE IF YOU AIN'T GONNA USE GOD HIMSELF
In one episode HB Blitzo says "I guess there is a God" so I think the question of if he actually exists (and if so, where the frick is he) might come up in HH
wha- but she- she is using lucifer as the devil of Helluvaverse and his whole point was defy god because he saw humanity as inferior why
JUST WHY THE FRICK WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT OF USING NAMES OF CHRISTIANS LORE IF YOU AIN'T GONNA USE GOD HIMSELF
>God doesn't exist apparently >Lucifer who was literally daddy's favorite is now no longer some super special angel because Viv chickened out on using actual Bible lore
LAME
The least they could have done was have god be an aloof, hands off butthole too lazy to watch over his creations or go the ultrakill route where he straight up abandons humanity and leaves his angels to do whatever
Seen it done before. Usually this twist is good because there's supposed to be a deeper implication. Hell, I've seen a literal harem anime pull off the twist where they revealed God died a long time ago and it was covered up to keep up morale in a 3 way war between angels, demons, and fallen angels and left a sense of uncertainty in even the demons because they now all lived in a godless universe
I feel like God in HH is going to be played up as a "team mascot" of sorts. Someone who doesn't really exist, but is a "character" the high-ups created to inspire morale. Helluva Boss kind of hinted at this already.
Motherfricking Highschool DxD did this shit better, what's the point of using Bible names and canon if you outright say God doesn't exist in the start of the show?
>I almost expect a twist where it turns out Root is actually God or something
I'd put good money on this being true because it's so fricking moronic and makes no sense as a twist
I always preferred to have Heaven and angels be left as a mystery outside of the story's scope, but failing that and instead going with a "Heaven is bad" plot, I'm actually glad that God is made absent and completely enigmatic so that villainy can be placed entirely on angels going rogue. Perhaps it might be the case that Viv, who I suspect scorns Christianity as an anti-theist, originally wanted to include God as a character to vilify, but was tard-wrangled out of it by Amazon managers for going too far.
A few months back someone leaked a bunch of Viv's patreon discord calls and she apparently said that she "isn't comfortable" depicting God and Jesus because it's a controversial and touchy subject (which, looking back, is an odd excuse considering she's depicting Saint Peter)
>"isn't comfortable" depicting God and Jesus because it's a controversial and touchy subject >proceeds to basically make an unholy amalgamation of the Bible & Greek myth and now it's an unrecognizable mess
Yeah, right.
Greek myths are cool, I find this was more engaging with using it's themes than GOW Ragnarok. It just irks me it doesn't have the balls of Greek myths such as capacity for honor, self-sacrifice, loyalty, and a mature sense of rebelliousness for all the bloviating about "being taken seriously."
Greek myth is cool on it's own and i think trying to mix it with the Bible is really wasteful to both since it takes away the stuff that made both religious myths so unique, there's literally mountains of lore in and around the Bible and Viv is barely using the basics
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If she had made this a show about the daughter of Hades trying to help the dead get into Elysium from the Underworld, it would make a lot more sense.
In that case, I give credit for having enough sense of shame to hold back in that regard. I'll also grant her Saint Peter as well because when your story is concerned with entry into Heaven as a physical place, you pretty much have to include the Pearly Gates and Saint Peter, and it might be the case that he has a bit role in the story anyway. As for having Adam as an explicit villain, it's not like he's really a venerated figure to begin with, and his ultimate fate in regard to Heaven is completely unknown.
So why did Vivzie make Adam black? Let's be real here. This is supposed to be her view of the worst kind of male character period.
Fat.
Misogynistic.
Violent.
Heartless.
Yet she makes his skin black.
as if she knows what's a black person otherwise she wouldn't have made Alastor the way he is without reconsidering that maybe perhaps, he could have been voiced by a black person AT THE VERY LEAST despite the glaringly obvious "urr you know what just because he's black doesn't mean he has to difer from everyone elses' demon designs haha equality am I right??".
Man, she is such a derivative moron that really does hate being tardwrangled. Thank frick for the amazon executives for having some sensibilities even if not artistically driven but at least having sense regarding marketing instead of just burning more bridges with a napalm projector.
>Acktually eating the forbidden fruit was about free will and shit!
A smart writer would have this be an example of an unreliable narrator, and that this version of the story was what was told to Charlie by her parents and isn't in fact accurate, but Viv is a hack, so this is how it truly went down.
No matter how Viv tries to spin this it STILL makes Lucifer and Lilith look bad because they basically caused evil itself to exist in a world that was pretty much peaceful.
Most scholars agree that the metaphorical reading/lesson of Adam and Eve is losing innocence and starting to see the darkness of the world, akin to Pandora's box. God, the father (see: the parent) doing everything to keep the child innocent until the snake (their first encounter with malice and underhandedness), as well as their yearning for freedom inevitably bring the children face to face with reality, the world outside of the Garden.
I found based pagans (greeks and nords) had more interesting philosophy and mythology than the Bible. Not to shit on Christianity, but it is a bit too wrapped up in the idols and not the messages behind them. Olympians ran existence but were created by Titans who were made by Chaos. The Olympians were not good even by the greek standards but were simply the most powerful and law enforcing beings, not dissimilar to how the higher up angels are depicted. But haters of Christianity who keep shilling feminist wiccanism and matriarchal judaism and ignoring patriarchal hellenism/odinism are illiterate morons.
>Not to shit on Christianity, but it is a bit too wrapped up in the idols and not the messages behind them
You have a terrible understanding of Christianity
well eating the fruit was in fact a act of free will, thats kinda the point.
God in the original genesis story gave a choice to Adam and Eve, they could live forever like innocent kids on his garden our learn about evil, have the free will to do evil but be forced to leave the garden and face death.
>They unleash evil into the world...but also HOPE
So they just rewrote the entire story into Pandora's box. This is so fricking boring, why even bother at that point?
>didn't have the balls to use God in the story >"muh eating the fruit was for le FREEDOM! but now there's also evil in the world oopsie-doopsie" >angels run everything but now there's the question on who made the angels? and why did angels make humans?
Viv can't write compelling shit even when there's already established stuff to work with.
At this point you might as well just swap this to the Greek afterlife and make Lucifer Hades, Lilith Persephone, and say Zeus got killed and Olympus is being run by a skeleton crew who are fricking around with the Underworld because they blame Hades or some shit. Toss in Elysium for a Heaven equivalent and you have something that at least makes some sense, this shit is all fricked.
We know because of leaks that there's a twist with Lilith/Eve so it's not one to one.
However, this script also says that giving the gift to Eve opened a curse that released evil and darkness, so it wasn't all happiness and freedom.
But the people were already evil, they merely learned to contemplate and understand the implication of their actions when they ate the fruit. A cat doesn't know it's being a evil fricker when it decides to torment a bird, or drag it butthole on the nice rug. It just does those things out of animal compulsion. The people were banished because they understood their evil nature and could now sin willingly, it's why they covered up their nakedness because they now understood nakedness to be a thing.
STOP MAKING THE SETTING HELL IN A CHRISTIAN CONTEXT IF YOU HAVE TODDLER UNDERSTANDING OF METAPHYSICS AND RELIGION VIV
JUST MAKE IT MARS OR SOMETHING
>"isn't comfortable" depicting God and Jesus because it's a controversial and touchy subject >proceeds to basically make an unholy amalgamation of the Bible & Greek myth and now it's an unrecognizable mess
Yeah, right.
>didn't have the balls to use God in the story >"muh eating the fruit was for le FREEDOM! but now there's also evil in the world oopsie-doopsie" >angels run everything but now there's the question on who made the angels? and why did angels make humans?
Viv can't write compelling shit even when there's already established stuff to work with.
>Is Hazbin hotel just shit SMT fan fiction written by people who don’t get SMT lore?
>God is dead >And We have killed Him
>Acktually eating the forbidden fruit was about free will and shit!
A smart writer would have this be an example of an unreliable narrator, and that this version of the story was what was told to Charlie by her parents and isn't in fact accurate, but Viv is a hack, so this is how it truly went down.
Btw it's confirmed that God doesn't exist in the Hellaverse and instead its a council of higher angels running everything
>it's confirmed that God doesn't exist in the Hellaverse and instead its a council of higher angels running everything
Calling it now. Hazbin hotel ether going to be what Reddit thinks is Gnosticism like with Doom external or shin megami tensei but tumblr.
One of the things Helluva has going for it is since only certain type of demons exist(Imps, Sharks, Hellhounds) it allows for more consistent and appealing designs.
Please god. Please. I've been good all year. I haven't made fun of coloreds or trannies. okay that is a lie but I atleast didn't tell them to 41% themselves.okay that is a lie too but I swear I want this to happen cause god damn I know you love when the pendelum swings back as well
I'm personally of the opinion that God does exist but for reasons only He can understand He no longer engages with humanity at large. It's likely they're going that direction as it saves them the hassle of portraying an almighty God as something people can relate to, much less accept as a "correct" interpretation of.
Oo Oo OO, I know why! Because They need this character to be a raging homophobe and it's ok to get away with it so long as you get a gay to say the slurs!
They're cool as frick, but nobody gets them right because they're lazy and don't want to look into anything. Seriously, some of the stuff in the Christian lore would look so awesome animated.
They're cool as frick, but nobody gets them right because they're lazy and don't want to look into anything. Seriously, some of the stuff in the Christian lore would look so awesome animated.
The Cherubim basically being something of a reverse Lamassu (which is one of the creatures they may have been based on) is kinda cool. The Lamassu have a human face, the wings of an eagle, and the body of a lion or bull. The Cherub has the faces of all three animals, but a human body.
Not really, since the "biblicaly accurate angels" spinning wheels with eyes are never clarifyied to be angels and are just implied to be "heavenly beings" in the original source.
They're the "Thrones" and are basically wheels for God's chariot and are on of the Nine Choirs of Angels and exist in the First Order with Cherubims and Seraphims
the "biblically accurate" angel memes are some the worst things to happen to angel designs
It works if it's handled like pic related. An alien force that is very far removed from humanity. Also would help if Angels as a whole had some more varied designs. I for instance in my story made an angel who is bunch of floating pieces of paper with eyes connected by light. It's not that hard to make angels look interesting without resorting to usual Biblically Accurate Angels.
Pretty much. Also makes temptation of Demons more realistic. They are closer to them in terms of looks and tempt them to do whatever they want while those scary, eldritch creatures are the good ones who want to protect humanity that is afraid of them and doesn't really understand them all that well. But nah. Heaven Le Bad which is probably why apparently there is no God. It pretty much confirms this is "Heaven Le Bad" the show and the the most good angels will probably have conflict like this: >Wait... Heaven le Bad? BUT THAT MEANS... Hell le Good? *GASP*
THOSE ONES ARE THE WHEELS OF GODS CHARIOT, WHO DOESNT FRICKING EXIST IN YOU SHOW HOW THE FRICK DO YOU TRY TO MAKE ANGELS ACCURATE TO THE BIBLE AND THEN FRICK UP WHO THEY ARE
FRICK
>Reading the Ep1 subtitles >bit with the song they released before the trailer rolls around >It literally IS going to be a show where a character just starts singing mid sentence in the middle of normal conversation.
Given how similar they look. I'm adding Lucifer is secretly Alastor to my bingo sheet for the hell of it. I know I'll still get at least two bingos even with a wasted space.
I thought Alastor was a warlock with Lucifer as his patron, it would explain his raw power for a mortal soul and how even blueblood were afraid of him.
if Viv's lore is anything to go by then it's probably that the other angels thought he was a frick up for what he did and kicked him out, there was no actual war with the archangels then
Lilith meanwhile continued to inspire demons with her SINGING and because heaven didn’t like that they sent the exterminators to make sure demons do not rise up against them.
Gee I wonder what kind of being could help elevate someones singing voice to reach the masses? Hopefully there is a microphone demon who can help get her message out back then.
Reading through the transcripts and looking at screenshots, why the frick is Huskerdust pushed so much? Husk hates him, and it feels like they had to reshape Angel into a sexual predator for anything to "go anywhere". It's like they saw the Instagram posts from before and thought that was actually great story telling, when anyone reading it knew they don't mesh whatsoever.
because it's fun to convert people you'd never expect. Not joking. This is a thing in homosexual circles. They consider it an "accomplishment" to force a character to become cannonically gay because that means they can do it to anyone irl. This is the insanity twitter creates and doesn't hinder.
Husk is pansexual so he it definitely isn't a matter of Angel turning him gay. It seems from the trailer and the fact they have a duet that Husk comes around to Angel's flirtations
not denying that there are folks of all sexualities who have a weird fixation on the idea of "converting" others, my beef is with this conspiratorial idea it's unique to queers when you have countless posts in these threads talking about alastor "fixing" charlie or vaggie. it's silly.
Never understood this ship. If anything Husker and Nifty would be better together since he's a trainwreck drunkard and Nifty is a crazy cleanfreak that loves bad boys.
>Husker and Nifty would be better together since he's a trainwreck drunkard and Nifty is a crazy cleanfreak that loves bad boys.
Didn't even know I wanted this, and now I feel robbed
>Episode 1 is Charlie going and talking to Adam about her idea and basically getting laughed at but still being allowed to give it a go. >B-Plot / comic-relief of the episode is everyone else making a shitty commercial for the Hotel. >End of the episode is an Angel being killed and Adam deciding to halve the amount of time between exterminations as punishment. >Episode 2 >Sir pentious is introduced by trying to attack the Hotel again and is instantly turned into comic relief and gets beat up. >Majority of the episode seems to be Vox and Val in their lair of doom b***hing at the fact they hate Alastor, Angel-Dust has run away, fear that Alastor will use Charlie to become more powerful somehow. >They send sir pentious back to the Hotel as a spy saying he wants to be reformed, but then he’s revealed as a spy and instantly gets forgiven anyway and heel-turns into becoming one of the main cast in seemingly 5 minutes.
You will get a small joke about Angel shooting a weird "fish troony" and that's it.
He'll most likely appear in a later season, given he and Niffty were seen dining together in one of Vivziepop's most recent sketches. Either way, shows that she hasn't forgotten about him.
I’m not really seeing the ‘Huskerdust’ honestly, it’s not even some really awkward tee-hee ‘wh…why would you say that…? Baka!’ Shit from Husk and just seems to be active dislike of Angel Dust.
Maybe their actually going to be written into being ‘friends’ after Husk has to save AD at some point and not gay-ass-sex buddies.
It would be the preferred, but just like how Stolitz works. Viv can't actually write a good slowburn couple, she always needs someone to be a harasser and the other to dislike it. There's no build up, no showing of "Maybe he'll like me" or "Maybe I shouldn't do this", it's all the same. All of it. Look at how Stolitz is told and you'll see how Huskerdust is told, and the morons on Twitter will eat it up thinking it's the best way for the ship to progress. It's funny tho, an anon before said that Nifty and Husk would make so much more sense and they would! There is something THERE to have a common thing between them, nothing about Huskerdust works.
Viv seems to be absolutely horrible at making good gay ships for the main cast of both her shows. Both Huskerdust and Stolitz are terrible and poorly thoughtout.
>using breeder unironically.
Go back to your discord and cry about it to your 10 year old friends troony.
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Hazbin Hotel will be as homosexual as it can get and you can stay mad about it. See you in season 2 babe.
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>Doesn't even deny he is in a discord with ten year olds
Do you guys ever notice where they put their priorities in their insults? They never call you wrong for it.
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Seethe more. Gay representation can't stop winning baby!
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Your gay representation is pretty lacking honestly. Seriously. Have some standards. You deserve better than... this shit.
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>Still hasn't denied it.
I am glad you are happy about gay representation over troony rep and black people rep. Haven't seen one colored person or actual trans main character AGAIN.
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Why bother with the accusations of some tourist freak from god knows where. You can say whatever you want about other anons, if it gets you hard go ahead. You're clearly a bit fricked in the head.
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>Turns it into sex because they can't think of anything else
Imagine being this troony fellows. Around kids he thinks of sex. Around normal people he thinks of sex. He can't get it out of his head. This is what goes through his mind.
yet he will call others obsessed when they call him out I bet.
5 months ago
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Literal schizo poster.
5 months ago
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come on, you can do more. Hot many other buzz words you learned from /misc/?
5 months ago
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I could do more but first you should take your meds, this is getting a bit sad.
5 months ago
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>again doesn't deny it
5 months ago
Anonymous
Meds, now.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Take your estrogen first. Might be crazy but I can see a mans hands typing this shit bro. You clearly need more.
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>I can see a mans hands typing this shit bro
I'm sure you see many other things, would you like to share?
5 months ago
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Well I also see a show that is about to hit a wall and have a bunch of homosexuals coming to Cinemaphile claiming it is a hit. i hope you get paid to do that at least
5 months ago
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I guess the rumors are true. Vivziepop really did mindbreak some people with her goofy hell themed gay cartoons.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yep and in a few hours it'll be free so no one has to pay amazon money.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Looking forward to it, see you around when season 2 drops!
5 months ago
Anonymous
and it will be free on here as well...least I know you'll come back to say hi to me then cause you're here forever.
>breeder
Can't tell if your an ugly troony or a disgusting butthurt homosexual that can't get a decent frick.
The ships are trash with abysmal writing, not anyone's fault you've got shit taste.
5 months ago
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Did I hit a nerve? Not every show needs to be about straights, deal with it.
5 months ago
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You're forgetting bisexuals, technically they are also breeders
5 months ago
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>You're forgetting bisexuals
everyone does lmao
5 months ago
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Ships are still trash. And you did nothing to disprove anything anyone has said about them, troony.
5 months ago
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Wait, could it be that you're mad your ship didn't make it. Would explain a lot.
5 months ago
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Shipping is for mentally ill homosexuals with no actual human relations. I don't ship and there's nothing worse then ships with shit writing in stories
It's funny how a random Korean web series managed to do the Stolitz dynamic better than Viv could. In fact all the relationship are handled better than they typically would be in Hazbin/Helluva. They creator is also named Viv too.
>Husk? oh you mean Angel's boyfriend right? cuz that's is what his character is gonna be for the rest of the show
Sounds fantastic to me, I will cherish every moment.
Pentious wants the Vs respect (tries to kill Alastor at first) and the Vs needed a spy for the hotel, so he becomes one for them but gets caught in less than a day
>They actually use the crude drawing of Alastor with the stuff like ‘triangle ass’ and ‘furry ears’ in the show.
Actually good gag? ACTUALLY GOOD GAG?
Let her cook!
The idea that no one in that theatre had their phone is almost unthinkable.
When? In history? Since the advent of smart phones and the internet. Has someone NOT tried to bootleg a live viewing?
Oh so it wasn't that successful
On Twitter they can't stop bragging about how awesome it was
Considering how many fans follo them on socials this is weird
I wonder what the voice actors thought seeing the theatre was almost empty!!
>On Twitter they can't stop bragging about how awesome it was >Considering how many fans follo them on socials this is weird
Because they announced it like three days ago
Viv threatened to eat anyone who dared take out a phone even for a second after the filming started. Actually two guests never left because of this reason.
>They really just had Adam say ‘No.’ to Charlie’s idea and disregard the entire stated premise so they can focus on gay-bois kissing for the entire show. >The eventual reveal that Charlie has basically been lying to everyone from day 1 will obviously be used as crying character fodder and probably make like Angel dust, Vaggie or someone else run away and have to be saved.
I wonder will a character be put in a situation where they are about to hang themselves and a character like Adam or insert other badguy here guilt tripping and gaslighting them on some nonsense like they aren't love or something? I swear I am waiting for a rinse and repeat of that Millie suicide episode.
Biggest takeaway I had from the transcripts is that the pacing is fricking ass, there seems to be literally no scenes that serve to give breathing room to the audience, there's no time given to dwell on a scene and let it settle.
Christ, it's like Viv wrote the episodes expecting them to be in the 44 minute range like Invincible, or at the very least 30 minutes like the pilot, but it turns out she's getting the standard 22 minutes. A good writer would adjust to this but she's cramming absolutely everything she can into this small timeframe.
Episode 2 is especially terrible, in this short time span we need to deal with the immediate aftermath of the Extermination being moved forward, introduce Vox, Valentino, Velvet, AND Pentious, have a duet about how Vox and Alastor are rivals, then have Pentious play spy, get caught, then get forgiven. The introduction to the Vs should have been its own episode, then Episode 3 introduces Pentious and has his little arc play out, everyone involved are setup to be major characters in the future and their introduction is smashed together like a trash compactor. It's like Viv secretly knows she's not getting a third season and is desperately trying to wrap up the story in half the time she intended.
Are you sure? Season 2 is only in pre production from what I've gathered. Or do you mean they ordered 16 episodes initially and now they're gonna produce the rest.
Have u noticed that no one of the old cast
(The Hunicast) never ever talked about HH anymore? They didn't even congratulate with their former boss!!
I wander why eh!!
I agree with u
The members of the Hunicast deserve better
I'm glad Ashley is working on her own stuff and Michael does lots of voice acting
Good for them
>more than two episodes?
unlikely, only the two first episodes were uploaded to the a24 website, it will take god's blessing to leak ALL of the episodes
As is fitting against Vivienne, someone who tries to foster malice toward Christians on fabricated grounds she projects through the show. It's baffling how much perpetually outspoken enmity she has toward the faith despite knowing so little about it herself.
so like most teenagers then? Isn't she in her thirties? Christ, imagine living your life this way. Clinging to the logic of yourself at age 13, watching Seth Rogen humor and thinking swears are funny by 35. I am so glad I am not that mentally broken as a human being to have such a limited worldview.
Adam just makes me want to turn to Viv and say, "Who hurt you sweaty?", (using sweaty unironically).
But this is the problem with a degenerate society, you daughters will get their V-card taken by some playa that doesn't keep his romantic promises, and she'll become bitter and hate ALL men as a teenager and spend the rest of her live trying to justify being a prostitute.
>Removes the good relationship Charlie had with her Mother in the pilot >Makes Lilith absent >Makes Eve a villain >Makes the fricking embodiment of evil a woman
Yea man in the helluvaverse get it easy
she's supposed to be Salvadoran like Viv isn't she? In fact, wasn't she supposed to be a Salvadoran sinner? But if she is an angel why just say she is Salvadoran? Seems kinda fricking weird.
the dream decayed. Or maybe it was like when you take a bite of pizza, and there is that weird crunch right and you realize it wasn't the crust but one of your back teeth? It's kinda that eye opening feeling.
Bed hair Charlie!
cute
That's a nicer looks for her than the pointy cow lick she's got going on now.
>Wake up
>See this
>What do?
>kiss her head or cheek
MUH DICK
bedhead charlie is cute
nice!
Could we get pic related with Charlie
naked: https://files.catbox.moe/s7bxx7.png
Hot
I have energy for one more Chaggie drawing in me so give me an idea. Nothing too complicated. Can be a little raunchy.
Charlie punches Vaggie like Goku Vs Vegeta
No
Ok
Charlie beats vaggie in roblox
Because 'muh male privilege' amiright Viv?
This shit soaks into these people's brains so completely they don't even know how stupid they look regurgitating it as if it's reality.
He BIG
I already dislike him
And CHONKY
I bet he'll end up being a twink like everyone else under his costume.
I wonder what god was thinking when he made this BLACK, PROUD, GORILLA MALE OF A MAN?
>Fanartists doing Gods' work once more
it fascinates me how often Vivzie cloaks up fat characters in thick ass garbments.
Just to clarify, the subtitles script for the first two episodes got leaked alongside some screenshots from the episodes, but we've yet to find access to the fully animated episodes. The website is keeping that on lock.
>all that red
Everything in this image hurts my eyes.
It's cringe and shit.
There, now you dont have to waste your time ever watching this.
This one has a spoiler
i can't believe they're fricking dead
i don't but i have to admit, voice acting and visuals can carry a weak joke
I hate to bring up the Crab man, but he was right about how Mike Myers' performance as Shrek elevates its script, delivery is half of what can make a line work.
>trained for the sole purpose of killing demons
>get mogged by them
I'm kinda glad that Viv hasn't touched any of the archangels now.
a sinner having never killed an angel and nobody being around to see it and it being used by lute to justify wiping out hell is definitely a plot point
>Exterminators are already jobbing
Lo fricking l. I'll be honest, I'm not surprised but I'm still disappointed in that this is a rush job already. Show me a dead exterminator at the end of the season, not right now.
According to leaks the killer is Carmilla, one of the overlords. She better be super powerful or else one of the exorcists being killed so soon would be underwhelming as frick.
Well, considering she's heavily related to the manufacture of angelic weaponery (the only thing that is confirmed that can hurt Exterminators) MAYBE i can buy it
>woman
>stoic and wise
doubt.jpg
Maybe she's a fallen angel, her design/color scheme reminds me of other angels and Vaggie if the leaks about her being a fallen angel are true
So is she gonna help out Charlie or not.
If there's gonna be a heaven vs hell war, it'd be odd to not include her.
Well she researches the angelic weapons. Its possible she figured out a weapon that can kill an angel.
She was actually name dropped in helluva boss. she was behind a rifle that Striker tried to use to kill stolas. i don't know if they weapon would ahve been legitimately powerful enough to kill him but it was a threat not taken lightly. She might have created a weapon that can take out an exorcist.
Do Americans really find this funny? Is it comedic genius for you guys?
I wonder how much Vivzie laughed at this while writing it, thinking to be the top of her own game. Not like I know what good humor is, but this is barely that.
Oh trust me, she thinks it's hot shit, but she's only half-right, (I'll give you three guesses which half).
>Do Americans really find this funny?
Look Euro, I get that you hate Americans, but nobody here is praising it.
Again, it is so weird how her usual cursing is so toned down from what we usually see of her. My theory is either
>Corporate oversight
>The actors, being the kind of broadway actors that Vivzie wants to rub elbows with, got creative input on their characters and how they wanted them to talk.
>this is the crew's favorite character in the show
Valentino is their favorite
I want this trending on Twitter by midnight
Still, it could have been worse...
I found Valentino mentioning how Charlie has a manish name actually made me chuckle given how the assumption contrasting to her very unmanish character in general.
Ehm where is the funny part? Cause I can't find it!!
>Of course you can't find it
>There isn't one
>Dohohoho
i can't wait to cringe while watching this for free
Uhhh bros...
I bet she'd still go to Taco Bell afterwards.
Yikes
Be careful guys
*israelites
the thumbnail alone makes it look like such a clusterfrick of red, holy shit.
Guys, season two thumbnail also just dropped.
SHIP
https://twitter.com/HazbinHotel/status/1744781258821873724?t=eqaR9RCul01jsvTztPPGiw&s=19
they're trying to distract us from the leaks!!
Timely
CHAGGIE NATION WINNNING!!!
Frick, I didn't realise how much I hated the new voices until now.
Also 'fall backwards trust exercise'? Has Viv EVER been outside her little bubble?
>she’s my girlfriend
Finally, now everyone shut up
Nifty a cute!
That's a cute Nifty
She's mad Pentious isn't a bad boy anymore
wow is that magenta instead of red, impressive
Nifty only likely bad boys sounds like that might've been what lead to her death.
>Nifty only likes bad boys
She's gonna partner up with Adam at some point.
>Adam gets banished for being a mean poopoo head
>Charlie still gives him the chance to join the hotel
>He reluctantly accepts
>Now he has to deal with a horny crazy shortstack who is wayyy too much even for his taste
>Nifty will be Adam's 4th wife after Lute
Based
CHAGGIEBROS?
>ITS REAL
I don't get this
He is Archangel Michael
So we’re all waiting for based anon to upload the episodes at this point right
They’re DRM protected according to him, so it’s unlikely
Will DRM really stop autism?
I think people are too busy downloading thumbnails to try and crack a drm protected video
Has anything ever stopped autism?
He looks like he was drawn by Stonetoss
is it just me to think the legs are really overstretched for some reason
like it kinda reminds me of this, but I could be wrong and the characters are pretty decently long
I know I said I don't like drama but what the frick is this?
pretty pathetic if true
Wtf are they yapping about?
probably something the fans created to have more drama give more attention to Vivzie so someone can bother watch what bothered this elusive "guy" all of a sudden.
Feels like some anon from the threads was insane enough to do this. Maybe the fella who keeps posting all the fat fantasies.
>someone from Cinemaphile ever having the guts
el oh el, we mostly stick to trying to pirate/leak this thing as much as possible
>someone from Cinemaphile ever having the guts
You'd be surprised.
The drawgay or the one who wants to bang Viv if she were more fatter?
Is Hazbin even trending anywhere right now due to the premier?
I haven't seen anyone talk about the show at all aside from "muh uwu ship became canon" on Xtwitter
Nope not trending at all
Not even on Tumblr
Characterising a critic as a sex pest is the peak 2020 response to a guy having a different opinion to a woman.
Probably referring to a "hater" who "harassed and stalked" Viv by giving it a 9.9 out of 10.
Are they talking about the anon who gave a summary of the first three episodes on here? Why do they keep stalking this place for leaks and getting mad that people who leak it also poke fun at the show?
How much will this flop and how upset will Fatziepop be when it does?
Likely wont flop as it has a built in audience who clearly do not give a frick about its quality.
considering her fanbase is teenagers instead of her actual targeted audience (actual people over 18+) who really don't know anything better to watch than this, this will be anything but a flop unfortunately
He's so hot bros
love him
>there are smartphones in Hell
Several questions are raised
hell is just the modern world with a red filter applied
>cell networks exist in Hell
>cell companies that run the networks exist in Hell
>cellular contracts for service exist in Hell
>monthly cell payments are a thing that exist in Hell
>currency of some kind exists in Hell
See the rabbit hole this shit opens up? Like what the frick do dead people need money for, much less dead buttholes stuck in Hell?
I could always go back to sperging about Time again.
Perfect representation of me rn
>Are ya winning, Charlie?
Kek.
Troof.
I hate how they're trying to make Alastor intimidating when the 'Alastor and Lilith have been gone for years' thing is all the confirmation we need that he's just there to be Charlie's babysitter who was sent there by Rosie who is actually Lilith.
Nice coat
is he making the :3 face
Why do I love this stupid TV head so much, he's so hot.
just for you anon
why do i love this stupid moth so much, hes so hot
I'm in heaven right now holy shit, they're so cute and hot
Please more of these 2 and maybe more Alastor.
R these two even a canon couple anymore??
Maybe
>the rapist pimp moth and evil tv psycho are a more interesting couple then any of the main cast ships
Kek
This is just again just how Viv writes, and imagine if this actually was a web series. She'd probably rewrite them to be actually super sweet and "Um. Val doesn't like rape? It's just fantasies."
I like these two a lot but my expectations are on the floor at this point.
this is a very common shot composition happening here.
You think they had skibidi toliet in mind when designing this guy?
Vivz designed these guys before skibidi toilet was a thing my little zoomie friend
So
Is there more sex then just the gimpsuit dogs from the trailer, or was that it
Angel and Pent throwing hands
>Charlie and Vaggie looking disappointed but not surprised.
Cute.
Btw it's confirmed that God doesn't exist in the Hellaverse and instead its a council of higher angels running everything
Is it a council or just Adam?
>God doesn't exist but somehow Satan does
Who the frick made the angels then? And does that mean angels made humans? Why?
wha- but she- she is using lucifer as the devil of Helluvaverse and his whole point was defy god because he saw humanity as inferior why
JUST WHY THE FRICK WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT OF USING NAMES OF CHRISTIANS LORE IF YOU AIN'T GONNA USE GOD HIMSELF
In one episode HB Blitzo says "I guess there is a God" so I think the question of if he actually exists (and if so, where the frick is he) might come up in HH
>They're portraying Lucifer as a softie with big dreams for Humanity instead of being beneath him.
Heaven Bad, Hell Good, not surprised.
Based.
>God doesn't exist apparently
>Lucifer who was literally daddy's favorite is now no longer some super special angel because Viv chickened out on using actual Bible lore
LAME
>Eve is short here
Yep. Lilith is a fake. Frick.
I like to think that this is depicting the general disdain towards heteros in the Viv-verse.
If God doesn't exist, then what are all the churches for
Stupid l*berals can't think
piff so viv did not had the balls to actually use God or even jesus in the show.
LAME
The least they could have done was have god be an aloof, hands off butthole too lazy to watch over his creations or go the ultrakill route where he straight up abandons humanity and leaves his angels to do whatever
She pussied out on having a negative depiction of god lmao
>God is dead
>And We have killed Him
Seen it done before. Usually this twist is good because there's supposed to be a deeper implication. Hell, I've seen a literal harem anime pull off the twist where they revealed God died a long time ago and it was covered up to keep up morale in a 3 way war between angels, demons, and fallen angels and left a sense of uncertainty in even the demons because they now all lived in a godless universe
I feel like God in HH is going to be played up as a "team mascot" of sorts. Someone who doesn't really exist, but is a "character" the high-ups created to inspire morale. Helluva Boss kind of hinted at this already.
I assume Jesus doesn't exist here either?
Motherfricking Highschool DxD did this shit better, what's the point of using Bible names and canon if you outright say God doesn't exist in the start of the show?
Oh this is a…*checks notes* Yazidi interpretation of the universe…interesting choice!
Im not surprised at all, viv is that kind of satanist who are nothing but edgy atheists
>TFW I stopped playing Fallout New Vegas to check Cinemaphile to see this shit
If God doesn't exist here, then who is Jesus Christ? Does he not exist too? Who made the angels?
>New Vegas
what mods you playing with bro?
probably that c**t will say Jesus is another angel (probably nicer than the others) or just a man, at any case she is a hack
all of this explains why no one wanted air/stream this series
I almost expect a twist where it turns out Root is actually God or something
>I almost expect a twist where it turns out Root is actually God or something
I'd put good money on this being true because it's so fricking moronic and makes no sense as a twist
I always preferred to have Heaven and angels be left as a mystery outside of the story's scope, but failing that and instead going with a "Heaven is bad" plot, I'm actually glad that God is made absent and completely enigmatic so that villainy can be placed entirely on angels going rogue. Perhaps it might be the case that Viv, who I suspect scorns Christianity as an anti-theist, originally wanted to include God as a character to vilify, but was tard-wrangled out of it by Amazon managers for going too far.
A few months back someone leaked a bunch of Viv's patreon discord calls and she apparently said that she "isn't comfortable" depicting God and Jesus because it's a controversial and touchy subject (which, looking back, is an odd excuse considering she's depicting Saint Peter)
>"isn't comfortable" depicting God and Jesus because it's a controversial and touchy subject
>proceeds to basically make an unholy amalgamation of the Bible & Greek myth and now it's an unrecognizable mess
Yeah, right.
Greek myths are cool, I find this was more engaging with using it's themes than GOW Ragnarok. It just irks me it doesn't have the balls of Greek myths such as capacity for honor, self-sacrifice, loyalty, and a mature sense of rebelliousness for all the bloviating about "being taken seriously."
Greek myth is cool on it's own and i think trying to mix it with the Bible is really wasteful to both since it takes away the stuff that made both religious myths so unique, there's literally mountains of lore in and around the Bible and Viv is barely using the basics
If she had made this a show about the daughter of Hades trying to help the dead get into Elysium from the Underworld, it would make a lot more sense.
>A few months back someone leaked a bunch of Viv's patreon discord calls
Post them
In that case, I give credit for having enough sense of shame to hold back in that regard. I'll also grant her Saint Peter as well because when your story is concerned with entry into Heaven as a physical place, you pretty much have to include the Pearly Gates and Saint Peter, and it might be the case that he has a bit role in the story anyway. As for having Adam as an explicit villain, it's not like he's really a venerated figure to begin with, and his ultimate fate in regard to Heaven is completely unknown.
>Not comfortable depicting God
>still feels comfortable sexualizing and making demons swear as a normal cliché
almost wanna be mysogynistic just against her
So why did Vivzie make Adam black? Let's be real here. This is supposed to be her view of the worst kind of male character period.
Fat.
Misogynistic.
Violent.
Heartless.
Yet she makes his skin black.
as if she knows what's a black person otherwise she wouldn't have made Alastor the way he is without reconsidering that maybe perhaps, he could have been voiced by a black person AT THE VERY LEAST despite the glaringly obvious "urr you know what just because he's black doesn't mean he has to difer from everyone elses' demon designs haha equality am I right??".
Mean green mother from outer space. Pretty much wanting to copy that vibe.
Man, she is such a derivative moron that really does hate being tardwrangled. Thank frick for the amazon executives for having some sensibilities even if not artistically driven but at least having sense regarding marketing instead of just burning more bridges with a napalm projector.
>muh council angels = religion
fricking viv, you are such a basic hack that hurts
i was honestly half expecting a gay furry Demiurge what with all the use of Ars Goetia in HB.
On a rare positive note I do have to say these two characters were cool concept, and not terribly executed so far. But stay tuned ...
Stop wiener-teasing us and just drop the episodes Anon.
were you in the other thread? anon could only leak thumbnails and the captios for ep 1 and 2
who farted?
Do we get to see any of the characters naked?
The dog man is wearing the same outfit he was when he was fricking the gimp person
Is that supposed to be a Gorgon?
Where are you getting these images from?
Uranus
lurk more vivzie homosexual. I hope you went broke buying all those fricking pins.
Aww Pent is a good boi
I bet they decimate Pilot Pent's over-the-top cool factor though.
She WILL frick Pentious
Who is this?
A Sugar Mommy
That's Velvet. She's Vox and Valentino's buddy
Velvet unfortunately
They do however give me what I want
Yeeesss
Gaybros we can't stop winning right now.
Also, I found the cat
i love them so much thank you, more huskerdust please
stop posting screenshots and post the damn episodes
Sir Pent spoiler, he's so fricking pure, I love him
Hows he sound?
Is it still Stamper?
Alex Brightman is Pen and Adam
night-dress vaggie! cute!
Aww it breaks my heart to see him cry like that
>two of the characters I find the cutest (Vox and Pentious) actually interact
Interesting
>Acktually eating the forbidden fruit was about free will and shit!
A smart writer would have this be an example of an unreliable narrator, and that this version of the story was what was told to Charlie by her parents and isn't in fact accurate, but Viv is a hack, so this is how it truly went down.
No matter how Viv tries to spin this it STILL makes Lucifer and Lilith look bad because they basically caused evil itself to exist in a world that was pretty much peaceful.
Most scholars agree that the metaphorical reading/lesson of Adam and Eve is losing innocence and starting to see the darkness of the world, akin to Pandora's box. God, the father (see: the parent) doing everything to keep the child innocent until the snake (their first encounter with malice and underhandedness), as well as their yearning for freedom inevitably bring the children face to face with reality, the world outside of the Garden.
I found based pagans (greeks and nords) had more interesting philosophy and mythology than the Bible. Not to shit on Christianity, but it is a bit too wrapped up in the idols and not the messages behind them. Olympians ran existence but were created by Titans who were made by Chaos. The Olympians were not good even by the greek standards but were simply the most powerful and law enforcing beings, not dissimilar to how the higher up angels are depicted. But haters of Christianity who keep shilling feminist wiccanism and matriarchal judaism and ignoring patriarchal hellenism/odinism are illiterate morons.
>Not to shit on Christianity, but it is a bit too wrapped up in the idols and not the messages behind them
You have a terrible understanding of Christianity
well eating the fruit was in fact a act of free will, thats kinda the point.
God in the original genesis story gave a choice to Adam and Eve, they could live forever like innocent kids on his garden our learn about evil, have the free will to do evil but be forced to leave the garden and face death.
>They unleash evil into the world...but also HOPE
So they just rewrote the entire story into Pandora's box. This is so fricking boring, why even bother at that point?
>didn't have the balls to use God in the story
>"muh eating the fruit was for le FREEDOM! but now there's also evil in the world oopsie-doopsie"
>angels run everything but now there's the question on who made the angels? and why did angels make humans?
Viv can't write compelling shit even when there's already established stuff to work with.
At this point you might as well just swap this to the Greek afterlife and make Lucifer Hades, Lilith Persephone, and say Zeus got killed and Olympus is being run by a skeleton crew who are fricking around with the Underworld because they blame Hades or some shit. Toss in Elysium for a Heaven equivalent and you have something that at least makes some sense, this shit is all fricked.
We know because of leaks that there's a twist with Lilith/Eve so it's not one to one.
However, this script also says that giving the gift to Eve opened a curse that released evil and darkness, so it wasn't all happiness and freedom.
>But this gift came with a curse.
Is the root of all evil shit actually true?
Looks like it unfortunately, anon
But the people were already evil, they merely learned to contemplate and understand the implication of their actions when they ate the fruit. A cat doesn't know it's being a evil fricker when it decides to torment a bird, or drag it butthole on the nice rug. It just does those things out of animal compulsion. The people were banished because they understood their evil nature and could now sin willingly, it's why they covered up their nakedness because they now understood nakedness to be a thing.
STOP MAKING THE SETTING HELL IN A CHRISTIAN CONTEXT IF YOU HAVE TODDLER UNDERSTANDING OF METAPHYSICS AND RELIGION VIV
JUST MAKE IT MARS OR SOMETHING
eating the forbidden fruit was about free will and shit!
Is Hazbin hotel just shit SMT fan fiction written by people who don’t get SMT lore?
>Is Hazbin hotel just shit SMT fan fiction written by people who don’t get SMT lore?
>it's confirmed that God doesn't exist in the Hellaverse and instead its a council of higher angels running everything
Calling it now. Hazbin hotel ether going to be what Reddit thinks is Gnosticism like with Doom external or shin megami tensei but tumblr.
>Reddit
>thinking
That is a scary thing to consider.
Looks like they're releasing a lot more than thumbnails, Black person?
yeah? just captions, you can check on the other thread fricker
Any references to Greek Mythology?
It feels like Vivi mixed up Greek mythology and Christian canon resulting in a clusterfrick where it resembles neither one and makes no logical sense.
Alastor is kinda doing things to me, maybe he's kinda hot as well
If him and Vox frick onscreen and uncensored I will call this show peak fiction.
Vox appearing so early on is being a red flag for me please god I know Hazbin will be mid but please don't make the villains a bunch of jokes
I love him and his dumb little hat
I'm his number one fan, fight me.
i love him
New ship incoming. My, my, when did Sir Pent become so popular?
When right around the time his wikipage had a higher word count in his trivia section than any of the women in Hazbin Hotel.
add this to your collection
I've seen characters shipped for less
I like the clock man
>I like the clock man
DONTE IS GUD and BAESt In GAEM
Thumbnail of Alastor being a massive bawd when
I forgot the other one was part of the group, does she do ANYTHING in this show?
thank you clever anons, for bringing leaks season upon us!
i'm glad i got to witness it happen live!
these designs suck
They look like Viv made them, vs any of the helluva character designers.
I'll take it as sinners are supposed to be ugly because they're cursed to look like that as punishment.
One of the things Helluva has going for it is since only certain type of demons exist(Imps, Sharks, Hellhounds) it allows for more consistent and appealing designs.
DANTE!
>Dante becomes manager of a mobile hazbin hotel bus
at least they're not red. i was beginning to wonder if vivzie knew other colours existed.
Muhfricking clock from DHMIS grew a body over here.
My queen
happy that Adam finally found his soulmate after 2 failed marriages
>Charlie rape scene
OH NO NO NO
Pack it up folks we will be having NTR fat bastard in Hazbin
>Just got finished reading the transcripts of both episodes.
Wow! That was shit!
Someone in the discord just said they might have found a way to bypass the DRM.
nice
My god is he fricking cute, I can see why they added him to the main cast
Please god. Please. I've been good all year. I haven't made fun of coloreds or trannies. okay that is a lie but I atleast didn't tell them to 41% themselves. okay that is a lie too but I swear I want this to happen cause god damn I know you love when the pendelum swings back as well
So in Sera's audition sheet it directly mentions 'Speaker of God', so God had to exist at some point right?
I'm personally of the opinion that God does exist but for reasons only He can understand He no longer engages with humanity at large. It's likely they're going that direction as it saves them the hassle of portraying an almighty God as something people can relate to, much less accept as a "correct" interpretation of.
Likely outdated considering the full cast is out and there's no mention of the Speaker of God, unless it's a future character maybe.
NOOOOO I WANT TO HATE THE TV MAN WHY HE SO CUTE DOING THAT LITTLE :3 FACE AAAHHHHHUUUHH
Twitter cancer and dumblr are invading us, help.
you know the show is filled with gays, what did you expect
an actual villain. Seriously, where are all the black people in this show and where are all the white villains??
>cyber sharks
Does he not have the goofy pet shark man anymore? Also he's so handsome
Any more Katie or Tom pics
let me check, I haven't read ep 1 but there should be
Such a smug c**t mothboy. Perfect otp couple.
I think they have lines near the end of the episode if that helps
>Brandon will be voicing THIS
Frick you Viv
I'm gonna miss the old VA.
I wanna know what the actual Katie did to bully Viv in school. Real Wes Craven/Krueger moment.
Oo Oo OO, I know why! Because They need this character to be a raging homophobe and it's ok to get away with it so long as you get a gay to say the slurs!
The card was false advertising HER breasts DON'T LOOK BIG LIKE THAT IN THE SHOW
Bless you anon
>Post about Vox and Val
>No one can tell me what the hell it is that Velvet does in the show?
Is she the third wheel, what gives?
She's in charge of... social media. Yes she's irrelevant, next question.
Here's the leaked audition sheet about her
She's a woman in a Vivziepop show what did you expect?
>Alastor and Vox are now exes
I win.
Links to these subtitles of the episodes?
https://mega.nz/folder/Qi4SWIoZ#wH0imIsquVpXuaEtlpSyQg
Thanks anon, I hope you used a script and didn't manually download each one, r-right?
How come there are screenshots but not the episodes themselves?
anon said it was difficult to decrypt the video files
thanks for downloading the thumbnails!
Do we see Charlie or Vaggie's feet ?
My husband Husk is so beautiful
Biblically accurate angels
Is it blasphemous to say I'm tired of the "biblically accurate" angel design? Especially when done like this.
>Is it blasphemous to say I'm tired of the "biblically accurate" angel design?
What would be better? Regular people with wings and a halo?
It's just that the Thrones design is the main one that gets used, when there are other more outlandish forms they could be creating or use.
They're cool as frick, but nobody gets them right because they're lazy and don't want to look into anything. Seriously, some of the stuff in the Christian lore would look so awesome animated.
>biblically accurate
there is not such thing, idiots following this meme forget angels can have any form,depending the message they want praise
praise jesus
the "biblically accurate" angel memes are some the worst things to happen to angel designs
The Cherubim basically being something of a reverse Lamassu (which is one of the creatures they may have been based on) is kinda cool. The Lamassu have a human face, the wings of an eagle, and the body of a lion or bull. The Cherub has the faces of all three animals, but a human body.
Not really, since the "biblicaly accurate angels" spinning wheels with eyes are never clarifyied to be angels and are just implied to be "heavenly beings" in the original source.
They're the "Thrones" and are basically wheels for God's chariot and are on of the Nine Choirs of Angels and exist in the First Order with Cherubims and Seraphims
It works if it's handled like pic related. An alien force that is very far removed from humanity. Also would help if Angels as a whole had some more varied designs. I for instance in my story made an angel who is bunch of floating pieces of paper with eyes connected by light. It's not that hard to make angels look interesting without resorting to usual Biblically Accurate Angels.
Angels are like German Shepards; horrifying to who they are foes of, but very nice and protective of who they care about.
Pretty much. Also makes temptation of Demons more realistic. They are closer to them in terms of looks and tempt them to do whatever they want while those scary, eldritch creatures are the good ones who want to protect humanity that is afraid of them and doesn't really understand them all that well. But nah. Heaven Le Bad which is probably why apparently there is no God. It pretty much confirms this is "Heaven Le Bad" the show and the the most good angels will probably have conflict like this:
>Wait... Heaven le Bad? BUT THAT MEANS... Hell le Good? *GASP*
no because there are other angels described in the bible. people just remember God's chariot from Ezekiel the most for some reason.
why do they still have bodies?
She probably saw them on her twitter feed and didn't look any deeper into the even weirder shit.
THOSE ONES ARE THE WHEELS OF GODS CHARIOT, WHO DOESNT FRICKING EXIST IN YOU SHOW HOW THE FRICK DO YOU TRY TO MAKE ANGELS ACCURATE TO THE BIBLE AND THEN FRICK UP WHO THEY ARE
FRICK
I like her outfit.
With hair like that, I can see why she was able to snag Charlie.
What the hell am I looking at? This is nightmare fuel
never mind I figured it out, I thought it was a gigantic mouth but her eye is closed, that freaked me out, she's actually smiling
Adam and Lilith
Why Adam sure did let himself go. Where do humans come from anyway?
HE GOT FAT
Adam looks hot.
Son of god got lady hips.
i hope Adam's human form is as good as this
Put the mask back on he's fricking hideous
Is that really Lilith or is it Eve?
Vaggie has them thighs
Is Alastor going to convert her from lesbianism?
Holy shit I managed to decrypt the DRM for episode 1
>it's real
kys you unfunny mongol
Download it quickly and archive it before it gets copyrighted
dw i got it guys
>14:08
charlastorbros...
cute hellhound girl
>Reading the Ep1 subtitles
>bit with the song they released before the trailer rolls around
>It literally IS going to be a show where a character just starts singing mid sentence in the middle of normal conversation.
>a musical
>has spontaneous singing acts
Would have never seen it coming ever
If Lilith really is Eve and Rosie is real Lilith then all those pictures, memories and everything Charlie grew up with is a lie. Poor girl.
Given how similar they look. I'm adding Lucifer is secretly Alastor to my bingo sheet for the hell of it. I know I'll still get at least two bingos even with a wasted space.
I thought Alastor was a warlock with Lucifer as his patron, it would explain his raw power for a mortal soul and how even blueblood were afraid of him.
But how did it happen? Did Eve make some spell that made everyone think she's Lilith?
If the show manages to keep going somehow then we'll probably find out.
Nope. She just decided to just not do anything and never told anyone who she was and everyone just believed her.
i admire viv's ability to make people seethe more than any troll could
>viv's ability to make people seethe
we are actually more laughing at her than seething, we knew she was a hack but not that LMAO
I'm enjoying this trainwreck. I haven't seen a frick-up this bad since RWBY volume 5 finale.
At least RWBY post Oum had plenty of hot mothers and Harriet Bree (bunny themed brown chick with nice ass)
i've seen more anons laughing and gloating that they were right that the show will be shit then seething now that there's leaks
oh no the devil, the father of all lies, lied to his daughter
oh god who coulda seen that coming?
Lucifer is cute though according to his audition sheet and he's super nice. Lilith (fake) is the one being an butthole.
Daddy can do no wrong, only mommy can!
>Lucifer is called The Fallen Angel is in the description
Why did he fall if God doesn't exists?
if Viv's lore is anything to go by then it's probably that the other angels thought he was a frick up for what he did and kicked him out, there was no actual war with the archangels then
I'm betting God is around but likely won't see Him until season 2 or something. Until then it's the council of angels running the show in His absence
>Stella is a b***h
>Lilith is a b***h
One more b***hy mother and this is a pattern.
look like female millenials really hate their mothers and motherhood in general
Guys too. For all of the jokes about 'mommy milkers' and 'muscle mommies' This generation seemingly doesn't like mothers very much.
>doesn't know that Lucifer is cute
Have you seen the leaks? And the animations of him singing?
rumoured episode 3 summary:
https://chaifootsteps.tumblr.com/post/739064354955280384/a-summary-from-someone-who-was-at-the-premiere
Lilith meanwhile continued to inspire demons with her SINGING and because heaven didn’t like that they sent the exterminators to make sure demons do not rise up against them.
Gee I wonder what kind of being could help elevate someones singing voice to reach the masses? Hopefully there is a microphone demon who can help get her message out back then.
So Carmilla is like an anti-hero
Reading through the transcripts and looking at screenshots, why the frick is Huskerdust pushed so much? Husk hates him, and it feels like they had to reshape Angel into a sexual predator for anything to "go anywhere". It's like they saw the Instagram posts from before and thought that was actually great story telling, when anyone reading it knew they don't mesh whatsoever.
because it's fun to convert people you'd never expect. Not joking. This is a thing in homosexual circles. They consider it an "accomplishment" to force a character to become cannonically gay because that means they can do it to anyone irl. This is the insanity twitter creates and doesn't hinder.
Husk is pansexual so he it definitely isn't a matter of Angel turning him gay. It seems from the trailer and the fact they have a duet that Husk comes around to Angel's flirtations
wait is Angel Dust supposed to be trans? I figured they were gay
Angel Dust is a gay cis dude
take it leave schizo
have a nice day troony.
Bisexual here. Lesbians call queer women, who look straight, golden eggs. It's a thing and I've never been comfortable with it.
not denying that there are folks of all sexualities who have a weird fixation on the idea of "converting" others, my beef is with this conspiratorial idea it's unique to queers when you have countless posts in these threads talking about alastor "fixing" charlie or vaggie. it's silly.
Never understood this ship. If anything Husker and Nifty would be better together since he's a trainwreck drunkard and Nifty is a crazy cleanfreak that loves bad boys.
>Husker and Nifty would be better together since he's a trainwreck drunkard and Nifty is a crazy cleanfreak that loves bad boys.
Didn't even know I wanted this, and now I feel robbed
That's what I hope, but I think it won't happen
Me neither
I prefer the old version
When Angie and Vaggie were supposed
to be a couple
Also wasn't Husk supposed to be married too??
I've been telling you guys, husk is a prop. They won't actually do anything with him other than make him a punching bag and an queer bait.
Eh????
After Stolitz seeing I'm not surprised they are handling Huskerdust so poorly
Because they're perfect together. Non gays like you wouldn't understand.
>Episode 1 is Charlie going and talking to Adam about her idea and basically getting laughed at but still being allowed to give it a go.
>B-Plot / comic-relief of the episode is everyone else making a shitty commercial for the Hotel.
>End of the episode is an Angel being killed and Adam deciding to halve the amount of time between exterminations as punishment.
>Episode 2
>Sir pentious is introduced by trying to attack the Hotel again and is instantly turned into comic relief and gets beat up.
>Majority of the episode seems to be Vox and Val in their lair of doom b***hing at the fact they hate Alastor, Angel-Dust has run away, fear that Alastor will use Charlie to become more powerful somehow.
>They send sir pentious back to the Hotel as a spy saying he wants to be reformed, but then he’s revealed as a spy and instantly gets forgiven anyway and heel-turns into becoming one of the main cast in seemingly 5 minutes.
They actually tell Charlie no, She just goes back to Hotel coping and lying to everyone else.
Which is a funny way to start this I guess. Using the ‘MC lies to their own allies’ card in the first fricking episode.
Reminder all of this shit being spoiled IS SEASON 1 If season 1 seems to be going this bad then what does season 2 has stored
How long will it be up on a Mega? Also, WHERE IS BAXTER THE FISH?!
Sir Pent took his spot
Sorry mate Sir Pentious took his spot
You will get a small joke about Angel shooting a weird "fish troony" and that's it.
>white, cis, male criminal guns down innocent troony in hell
based
>Italian
>white
>Italian
That is a funny way of saying fascist
We need more Angel art wearing black shirt stuff
>His mafia family escape sto america from facists
>Angel hates being in the mafia
>Has a rebel phase where he idolises Mussollini to spite his family
Angel is the most gay character in the whole series so it balances out.
He'll most likely appear in a later season, given he and Niffty were seen dining together in one of Vivziepop's most recent sketches. Either way, shows that she hasn't forgotten about him.
was scrolling through this thread and thought this was random Dib art
I’m not really seeing the ‘Huskerdust’ honestly, it’s not even some really awkward tee-hee ‘wh…why would you say that…? Baka!’ Shit from Husk and just seems to be active dislike of Angel Dust.
Maybe their actually going to be written into being ‘friends’ after Husk has to save AD at some point and not gay-ass-sex buddies.
It would be the preferred, but just like how Stolitz works. Viv can't actually write a good slowburn couple, she always needs someone to be a harasser and the other to dislike it. There's no build up, no showing of "Maybe he'll like me" or "Maybe I shouldn't do this", it's all the same. All of it. Look at how Stolitz is told and you'll see how Huskerdust is told, and the morons on Twitter will eat it up thinking it's the best way for the ship to progress. It's funny tho, an anon before said that Nifty and Husk would make so much more sense and they would! There is something THERE to have a common thing between them, nothing about Huskerdust works.
>like how Stolitz works
Stolitz doesn't work
Viv seems to be absolutely horrible at making good gay ships for the main cast of both her shows. Both Huskerdust and Stolitz are terrible and poorly thoughtout.
Cry more about it. You just don't like male gay representation, simple as. Go watch a breeder friendly show instead.
>using breeder unironically.
Go back to your discord and cry about it to your 10 year old friends troony.
Hazbin Hotel will be as homosexual as it can get and you can stay mad about it. See you in season 2 babe.
>Doesn't even deny he is in a discord with ten year olds
Do you guys ever notice where they put their priorities in their insults? They never call you wrong for it.
Seethe more. Gay representation can't stop winning baby!
Your gay representation is pretty lacking honestly. Seriously. Have some standards. You deserve better than... this shit.
>Still hasn't denied it.
I am glad you are happy about gay representation over troony rep and black people rep. Haven't seen one colored person or actual trans main character AGAIN.
Why bother with the accusations of some tourist freak from god knows where. You can say whatever you want about other anons, if it gets you hard go ahead. You're clearly a bit fricked in the head.
>Turns it into sex because they can't think of anything else
Imagine being this troony fellows. Around kids he thinks of sex. Around normal people he thinks of sex. He can't get it out of his head. This is what goes through his mind.
yet he will call others obsessed when they call him out I bet.
Literal schizo poster.
come on, you can do more. Hot many other buzz words you learned from /misc/?
I could do more but first you should take your meds, this is getting a bit sad.
>again doesn't deny it
Meds, now.
Take your estrogen first. Might be crazy but I can see a mans hands typing this shit bro. You clearly need more.
>I can see a mans hands typing this shit bro
I'm sure you see many other things, would you like to share?
Well I also see a show that is about to hit a wall and have a bunch of homosexuals coming to Cinemaphile claiming it is a hit. i hope you get paid to do that at least
I guess the rumors are true. Vivziepop really did mindbreak some people with her goofy hell themed gay cartoons.
Yep and in a few hours it'll be free so no one has to pay amazon money.
Looking forward to it, see you around when season 2 drops!
and it will be free on here as well...least I know you'll come back to say hi to me then cause you're here forever.
>breeder
Can't tell if your an ugly troony or a disgusting butthurt homosexual that can't get a decent frick.
The ships are trash with abysmal writing, not anyone's fault you've got shit taste.
Did I hit a nerve? Not every show needs to be about straights, deal with it.
You're forgetting bisexuals, technically they are also breeders
>You're forgetting bisexuals
everyone does lmao
Ships are still trash. And you did nothing to disprove anything anyone has said about them, troony.
Wait, could it be that you're mad your ship didn't make it. Would explain a lot.
Shipping is for mentally ill homosexuals with no actual human relations. I don't ship and there's nothing worse then ships with shit writing in stories
Have some frickin standards.
It's funny how a random Korean web series managed to do the Stolitz dynamic better than Viv could. In fact all the relationship are handled better than they typically would be in Hazbin/Helluva. They creator is also named Viv too.
Koreans have years of experience when it comes to writing toxic relationships. It's their bread and butter.
Viv is an amateur by comparison and she can't even write toxicity correctly.
Only character I care about is Husk
Husk? oh you mean Angel's boyfriend right? cuz that's is what his character is gonna be for the rest of the show
>Husk? oh you mean Angel's boyfriend right? cuz that's is what his character is gonna be for the rest of the show
Sounds fantastic to me, I will cherish every moment.
A paper thin cut out prop that's as important as a dakimakura.
You seem to care awfully much about him. He's already taken just so you know, b***h.
You can have him. Ugly designed useless c**t.
episode 2 added
https://mega.nz/folder/Qi4SWIoZ#wH0imIsquVpXuaEtlpSyQg
ZACH
Who?
You just know they have a lower budget when they don't put any effort into the phones.
STOP POSTING SCREENSHOTS AND POST THE FRICKING EPISODES
They can't get to the episode dumb ass
homosexual they are not screenshots, they are thumbnails
cute and happy!
sorry wrong person
get them yourself if you want it so much
https://files.catbox.moe/g9wzlt.json
https://files.catbox.moe/skvqjd.json
Just open a video editing software and create the episode using all screenshots lmao
Kinky
So wait, is Sir Pentious working with Vox or the TV guy or whatever?
Initially works for Vox (TV head) but face turns supposedly
Pentious wants the Vs respect (tries to kill Alastor at first) and the Vs needed a spy for the hotel, so he becomes one for them but gets caught in less than a day
Man the composition in these shots are all super bland
>They actually use the crude drawing of Alastor with the stuff like ‘triangle ass’ and ‘furry ears’ in the show.
Actually good gag? ACTUALLY GOOD GAG?
Let her cook!
I bet $50 that joke wasn't written by Viv,
The idea that no one in that theatre had their phone is almost unthinkable.
When? In history? Since the advent of smart phones and the internet. Has someone NOT tried to bootleg a live viewing?
Apparently only 21 people showed up. That's probably why.
Proof?
where'd you get that number from?
There was a lot of security. Why bother when the first two episodes release in a few days anyways?
I don't think a lot of people went, a those were probably loyal to viv, anyone who could have recorded probably share it on a small group
Weren't like 500 people at the premiere???
They booked for 500 and apparently it was a full house
if you make a event 18+, no duh it'll be a full house, 100% guarantee booze and drinks to be there and plenty of women for the men to fawn upon.
>plenty of women for the men to fawn upon.
>American women
You're joking, right?
half-joking at least. Some men are desperate.
proof
I do believe that they could brag that they filled the house because 500 invites were sent, but realistically, 300 would be your many people attend.
Yeah it probably wasn't 500 but it definitely wasn't a "nobody showed" situation.
From what i understood 500 was the max number of people the theotre could hold. The number of people that actually showed up was way smaller than that
Oh so it wasn't that successful
On Twitter they can't stop bragging about how awesome it was
Considering how many fans follo them on socials this is weird
I wonder what the voice actors thought seeing the theatre was almost empty!!
>On Twitter they can't stop bragging about how awesome it was
>Considering how many fans follo them on socials this is weird
Because they announced it like three days ago
Viv threatened to eat anyone who dared take out a phone even for a second after the filming started. Actually two guests never left because of this reason.
>They really just had Adam say ‘No.’ to Charlie’s idea and disregard the entire stated premise so they can focus on gay-bois kissing for the entire show.
>The eventual reveal that Charlie has basically been lying to everyone from day 1 will obviously be used as crying character fodder and probably make like Angel dust, Vaggie or someone else run away and have to be saved.
I wonder will a character be put in a situation where they are about to hang themselves and a character like Adam or insert other badguy here guilt tripping and gaslighting them on some nonsense like they aren't love or something? I swear I am waiting for a rinse and repeat of that Millie suicide episode.
Biggest takeaway I had from the transcripts is that the pacing is fricking ass, there seems to be literally no scenes that serve to give breathing room to the audience, there's no time given to dwell on a scene and let it settle.
Christ, it's like Viv wrote the episodes expecting them to be in the 44 minute range like Invincible, or at the very least 30 minutes like the pilot, but it turns out she's getting the standard 22 minutes. A good writer would adjust to this but she's cramming absolutely everything she can into this small timeframe.
Episode 2 is especially terrible, in this short time span we need to deal with the immediate aftermath of the Extermination being moved forward, introduce Vox, Valentino, Velvet, AND Pentious, have a duet about how Vox and Alastor are rivals, then have Pentious play spy, get caught, then get forgiven. The introduction to the Vs should have been its own episode, then Episode 3 introduces Pentious and has his little arc play out, everyone involved are setup to be major characters in the future and their introduction is smashed together like a trash compactor. It's like Viv secretly knows she's not getting a third season and is desperately trying to wrap up the story in half the time she intended.
Funny how she has to cram stuff into episodes when she already has a confirmed season 2 so why rush?
It's a Shmeson not a real season two. It's 12 episodes that they can split into two seasons because that's how they're going to catalog it .
Season 2 is just the second half of season 1.
Are you sure? Season 2 is only in pre production from what I've gathered. Or do you mean they ordered 16 episodes initially and now they're gonna produce the rest.
Really ?? U think there won't be a 3rd season then!
EPISODE RIPS COMING SOON GET HYPED
Merry late Christmas Cinemaphile
Superior autism wins again.
HOLY FRICK
holy shit
PRAISE BE
POST THAT SHIT
It looks really good holy frick
Patiently waiting sweet dear anon
Everyone who clicks on this gets a free virus
ur moms gay
Whenever the rips drop remember to put it in a MEGA folder and put it in the OP of the next thread.
Am I the only one that still loves Spidermoth ship???
If you mean Angel x Vaggie then I'm with you
Yes I mean that
Great
I'm not alone
>tv, internet, and... pornography
why the frick is val one of the vs again
Ahem. The internet is for porn.
New thread coming soon?
we burned through another thread that quickly? jesus
Vivzie your shit show is about to get leaked, I hope you enjoyed stabbing everyone who helped you in the back you fat b***h.
This reminded me that Mike Kovax is still salty he didn't get recast. Hey at least he found success with the circus again.
Have u noticed that no one of the old cast
(The Hunicast) never ever talked about HH anymore? They didn't even congratulate with their former boss!!
I wander why eh!!
being real here? Good for them. They already have a decent circle of fans and I'm glad they cut ties with the fat b***h if that was the case.
I agree with u
The members of the Hunicast deserve better
I'm glad Ashley is working on her own stuff and Michael does lots of voice acting
Good for them
>Salty not being recast for a show that'll be overrun by a annoying fanbase
at least with Gooseworx around, TDAC fanbase won't go immediately down the shitter
>TDAC fanbase won't go immediately down the shitter
Yeah, surely... haha...
There's already drama in that fandom too
Good thing Goose keeps the distance from it
I'd say about half of her crew during HH development have already prepared their callout posts once a few years go by.
i legit curious to see her reaction on twitter,
LOL she going to write a entire book of posts there complaining
oh my god I wish for that meltdown
Inshallah
I'm surprised it's getting leaked earlier than expected and it seems like we are getting... more than two episodes?
>more than two episodes?
unlikely, only the two first episodes were uploaded to the a24 website, it will take god's blessing to leak ALL of the episodes
>it will take god's blessing to leak ALL of the episodes
The Lord is on our side here, I'd count on it.
As is fitting against Vivienne, someone who tries to foster malice toward Christians on fabricated grounds she projects through the show. It's baffling how much perpetually outspoken enmity she has toward the faith despite knowing so little about it herself.
so like most teenagers then? Isn't she in her thirties? Christ, imagine living your life this way. Clinging to the logic of yourself at age 13, watching Seth Rogen humor and thinking swears are funny by 35. I am so glad I am not that mentally broken as a human being to have such a limited worldview.
tbh this would've happened even if she was a decent person
Adam just makes me want to turn to Viv and say, "Who hurt you sweaty?", (using sweaty unironically).
But this is the problem with a degenerate society, you daughters will get their V-card taken by some playa that doesn't keep his romantic promises, and she'll become bitter and hate ALL men as a teenager and spend the rest of her live trying to justify being a prostitute.
Anon, Adams dialogue is the norm for HH/HB, If anything Viv has shown from her record that she hates women.
>Removes the good relationship Charlie had with her Mother in the pilot
>Makes Lilith absent
>Makes Eve a villain
>Makes the fricking embodiment of evil a woman
Yea man in the helluvaverse get it easy
>Makes the fricking embodiment of evil a woman
What?
I’m just gonna say it. I actually miss Vaggie’s original VA.
Join the club
why are her lines delivered so flat?
I can't hear much of a difference, their voices sound similar imo. The old VA also seemed pretty bad at enunciating some words in English.
she's supposed to be Salvadoran like Viv isn't she? In fact, wasn't she supposed to be a Salvadoran sinner? But if she is an angel why just say she is Salvadoran? Seems kinda fricking weird.
I miss the old design of all the characters
I miss Stella's old design
like the first ones or the pilot ones?
what happened in the 70s? People just find heaven and god or something?
It's weird, because that's when things started going downhill irl.
the dream decayed. Or maybe it was like when you take a bite of pizza, and there is that weird crunch right and you realize it wasn't the crust but one of your back teeth? It's kinda that eye opening feeling.
https://www.tumblr.com/mbthomastumblesagain/738693714412748801/the-viv-i-knew-is-dead-and-gone Anybody remember this guy?
I don't know who he is!!
Can someone explain who's the guy and what happened to him?
Wow I've read it all and yikes poor guy
I hate those fans that still don't trust these artists, they were mistreated by Viv.and nobody believes them
How many of u miss the old designs of the old designs of the characters?