>HDR
Is it really worth it buying a new TV for this?
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No, it’s just automated settings control for people too stupid/lazy to set it up themselves.
anon has no idea what hdr is
its already been proven that its just saturation/contrast bumps, that crush color data
>anon debunks HDR
kek you absolute fricktard
Ok I changed my mind now since you insulted my anonymous character and my reputation has taken a hit out of this embarassment. Now I take it back
Source
Because dynamic range is traditionally a measurement of the capability of an image sensor to capture low brightness detail without saturating from high brightness in other areas of the same scene, and applying that term as not even an objective metric measurement of a contrast scale of a display but simply an ability for a decoder to advertise that it accepts a certain bit depth is disingenuous and actually laughable
Seeing that right looks better, I would say no, it is not.
this, but also this image is not in hdr, and neither is your screen
only if you watch mkvs of movies in 4K (they usually have HDR too). Or $K games with HDR. If you watch 1080p mkv videos and lower resolutions, then no. Not losing much anyway
Left just looks like a fog removal effect lmao. It's great for contrast required film though.
I picked up a 4k mkv of Top Gun from the bay yesterday and I got to say it's fricking worth it.
Doesn't matter what the resolution is, the HDR information is stored in the file regardless.
One example is Love, Death and Robots, Netflix only has 1080p but HDR is included.
To OP: If you buy a decent TV (no $500 bullshit) and use your PC to watch movies, use a compatible player and madVR, you get really good upscaling from normal 1080p sources.
I can see the difference from 4K sources but it's not that much, depending on where you sit.
Gaming unfortunately only looks great in 4K, everything else looks like shit. (Samsung Q70R 55', maybe that's the problem, I dunno)
>Gaming unfortunately only looks great in 4K, everything else looks like shit. (Samsung Q70R 55', maybe that's the problem, I dunno)
The problem is your brain. Why are you sitting so close to a 55' screen?
is there a good tv that has HDR, low latency and ambilight?
any philips oled?
If you need a new TV and can afford it, yes.
no. I have the TCL 8-Series (2019), one of the brightest HDR TVs. Most HDR (HDR10 or DV) is poorly mastered. Only a few titles are worth the upgrade (original Matrix). Most old titles get a mild boost; probably mastered for DCI HDR (which is only 50 nits). I also have pretty bad astigmatism, so night nits cause pretty extreme headaches. Anyway. I am blackout drunk, but I can still type. Anyway, I own about 70 HDR titles, and aside from the Matrix the 3rd Maze Runner movie, I cant think of a single title that is better than its 2K/SDR bluray counterpart. Buy a 2K/SDR projector, and save some money by buying standard blurays.
Here are my projector recommends:
>DLP
Samsung SP900AB (no replacement parts)
Mitsubishi HC4000 (hard to find)
>LCD
Epson 9700UB
Epson 6020UB
Epson 6030UB
>Advanced LCD
Sony HW50ES
JVC X35/RS46
all of those should be under $1500, most under $1k.
Horrendous post. Lay off the sauce, old man. OLEDs blow out any projector.
I would like to see you say this to my face.
Sober up first. I don't want the alcohol taking my glory.
you must be fricking blind drunk jesus, what moron thinks a projector will beat a television kek
>Horrendous post. Lay off the sauce, old man. OLEDs blow out any projector.
this is correct. as an ex-projector fan its just a dead platform for home theaters now that 85 inch 4k hdr oled screens are common place.
Put the projector on my backpack, I can use it in my friends house. Projectors are top tier comfy.
Also a projector wows the pleb women you invite to your home like a tv will never do. Doesnt matter if it looks worse than a tv, its the fricking theater magic at home.
right looks more natural
HDR is a crutch for panels with good brightness but bad contrast.
hdr literally means high contrast
~~*HDR*~~
i already painted my walls black, sealed shut my windows and wear keffiyeh daily so i can use it if need be
thanks for recommending me hdr anon, i think ill be getting it
>your face will ruin the shadows
that's fricking stupid or every production would have to be shot with burkas on too
Have you ever wondered why most people dress in black behind the cameras specially operators?
The face thing was an exaggeration,he often does, but the clothing not so much. Anyways Geoff Boyle is based and a great teacher.
what a moronic fricking take
Inshallah bros
>HDR is halal
why didn't he say paint your face black?
Aside from his moronic take on shadows, HDR applies across the entire colour range, not just highlight and shadows.
The difference between SDR and HDR is like moving from DVD to 4K BluRay, it's so superior that it's not even close.
Uhh okay. Yeah I'm missing out man. Oh well. I guess you just have a real talent for looking at a screen that we all don't
kek, anon you can't afford a new tv, you haven't sat with one long enough to see the difference for yourself. This thread is only for kino-enjoyers who have the ability to compare both options, please see yourself out.
I'm sorry I am poor and my eyes are weak. Only you are so great that you have to buy a new TV and a new sound system to enjoy The Mandalorian Season 2
Go back to watching anime on your crusty PC monitor, incel
I'm sorry if I interrupted your horror movie marathon. You must really be happy to see the extra shadows in Critters 4
>When you shine a flashlight at a wall the light bouncing off the wall causes the flashlight to become dimmer. I am very smart.
I guess he should dumb it down even further for chucklefricks like you
>turns out it's just a big kinoplex with HDR and everyone's clamoring to get inside and watch comfy movies together
>its kino time
>Have an OLED
Sounds like a personal problem
I'm ready bros.
Left looks fricking atrocious.
Do people really fall for the HDR meme? Just turn your TV saturation up a bit if you want more fun colors and that's it lmfao.
>HDR
meme
>open settings
>up contrast
>???
>profit
There you go, free HDR
If you had HDR you wouldn't complain about the last HotD episode
It's a meme. The only tech in modern panels that actually helps image quality is BFI.
i watch AxXo and YIFI features exclusively
Looks like just turning the TV saturation levels up
No.
I have a home theater and personally I think HDR is overrates. Sure its good but 4k is the bigger upgrade. If you disagree please see an optometrist. HDR does look great in black and white. Citizen Kane 4k HDR looks incredible.
>right looks better
What did HDR shills mean by this?
literally every new tv has HDR, but if you just want to buy because of the HDR, I don't think its worth
I literally can't tell when the HDR is on or off in a movie
This is pretty funny because my image always look like left but when HDR is on it makes everything look like right instead.
that's because you are watching something that has HDR but it's off.
If you have a HDR monitor you also need to enable it on Windows.
Also some media players can't play HDR.
i like the one on the right. looks more like "real life" to me. the left looks like some intern moved the brightness slider up way too high and also it has a ghost in the water which has me spooked.
im currently looking at that picture without a hdr moniter, both sides should look the same to me, but they dont, so its a lie.
A lot of the time when I watch movies with HDR, they just look dim.i think my settings might be wrong.
>"looks better"
what does this even mean exactly?
Shouldn't "better" mean closer to real life?
I think that both HDR and 4k aren't really needed since they stray away from actual real life rendering and into fake/uncanny territory
No because real life is dull and drab.
T. Photographer
No it doesn't.
afraid of anything
>Photographer
Figures that you would agree, all you hacks do is cherrypick and photoshop reality
HDR is worth it. got a predator x35 (upgrade from predator x34) and good HDR is so worth it. make sure your monitor is HDR 1000 or better. it must have full array local dimming, ideally hundreds of zones, or get an OLED. people who say HDR sucks are coping poorgays or have genuinely never seen good HDR implementation in person
many people don't realize that most photos are touched up to look good on an electronic screen and to look how we expect them to look, not how they actually look
>people who say HDR sucks are coping poorgays
This, next they'll argue that CRT/VHS combos are the most SVOLFUL way to watch kinos.
No sucker who was conned into buying HDR anything is watching kino
>ITT: frickwits looking at an image on their non-hdr screen and judging hdr on it
>hurrrr the right looks better though durrrrr
fricking morons
>HDR
Someone explain what HDR is.
I don't understand why there's special of the same video file. Either the screen can display the color or it can't display the color.
What's HDR for us morons.
HDR is basically more accurate whites and blacks, with better color accuracy because of better tints/shades.
HDR videos played on a regular tv wont look right, so the display has to adjust the higher fidelity by muddying it up. If you've ever played an HDR only movie on a regular TV, you probably noticed that dark rooms look hazy/low contrast. On an HDR TV, you wouldn't have a problem with seeing a dimly lit room, because it would look as though you were walking in the room yourself - as your eyes are drawn to light, the TV replicates white/contrast very well.
in short, HDR looks darker/low contrast on normal TVs, but has (practically) perfect contrast on HDR TVs
So I was right. It's just a new screen that can display additional colors, from previous screens.
No, but it was explained to you in layman's terms and you're still hurr durring about it so I you might as well give up, moron.
yes but no
it's additional colors only by proxy - due to the accurate blacks/whites.
so you're right but under the wrong presumption
This is only entirely true for games, for kinos you're getting better mid-range accuracy in and of itself when shot in HDR.
Wrong
Wrong
LCD panels can match the slimmest and brightest pixel by modulating backlight.
HDR ~~*would*~~ apply to a scene with BOTH extremely dim are and extremely bright area.
A tv with local backlight dimming could approximate this but not very well.
In reality that's not what her is, her is just more bit depth.
HDR means High Dynamic Range.
Dynamic range in an image is the difference between the brightest pixel and the darkest pixel. Basically, HDR allows brighter whites and darker blacks, which in turn allows richer, more vibrant colors that are truer to life.
This extra information is not included in standard video files.
>HDR allows darker blacks
Contrast depends on the type of panel. HDR can't make LCD look like OLED from the same RGB-0 black color data.
what makes you think he wasn't talking about panels? fricking midwit homosexual
HDR is not a panel
but requires a panel to be seen... use your fricking brain, jfc
Easy way to understand, imagine you have 10 shades of different reds in sdr and 100 shades of reds in hdr. Same for green , blue etc. It just means you will see better colours in your picture.
HDR allows for different brightness levels. If you look at a photograph of the sun in the sky, the sun won't be brighter than the sky. It will just be a different color. This is how standard TVs work too. Real life doesn't work like this. The sun is obviously brighter than the sky, it's not merely a different color. HDR allows for pixels to be different levels of brightness instead of just being different colors.
>Left: Contrast 50+
>Right: Contrast 0
I have a TV with apparently shitty HDR 'cause 'HDR' unironically looks like the right. Shitty HDR is not worth it. Good HDR costs over a thousand dollariedoos.
>Good HDR costs over a thousand dollariedoos.
No
>Watch HDR Movie
>Subtitles frick it all up
i watched some wong kar-wai 4K hdr rips and the citizen kane 4k and couldn't tell any difference
How the frick does everyone not have atleast a 4k hdr screen by now, its nearly a decade old tech... its not even a selling point, its standard for kino viewing, god you plebs are dogshit on the shoe of kino tech enjoyers , you bums are holding advancements in kino back , I hope you all die while watching your dogshit quality cam rips
Use a facking projector u homosexuals. Forget hdr. Forget black levels and forget resolution. Forget lcd and oled. Get a 1080 dlp home projector
Do you know what word is important?....... Breathe. An image needs to breathe.
Movies need a large canvas so everything expands so shadows dont get squished together and look awful.
>An image needs to breathe
images are static
>h-hold on let me turn on the projector, it takes about 5 minutes
Unless your staring at the screens avers none of this shit matters
HDR looks exactly the same as turning up the saturation settings. And it can't give you deeper blacks. OLED does that.
HDR is as much of a marketing meme as 4k or color-depth. Just watch normal 1080p files.
>monitor isn't HDR
>can show a HDR example
don't question the science
your picture feels me with dread
the russians hated dogs. still hate dogs.
you need an HDR compliant monitor to show the difference between non-hdr and HDR but it won't be able to show the difference simultaneously because HDR is a whole monitor experience and isn't just settings adjustments or anything as simple as that.
HDR makes the image look flat and over-saturated. Unnatural looking.
The right has a sense of depth the left doesn't have.
don't judge hdr by OP's pic, its completely wrong.
Idk what everybody in here is talking about. Go play RDR2 with HDR on, and then go into your settings and turn it off. It will look like a pale muddy mess. Shit changed my life honestly, I love it on games and moves, especially in 4K
go play a HDR movie in a non-HRD monitor with MPC
and then turn off the HDR setting in MadVR
watch as the "pale muddy mess" turn into a normal good picture
it's a scam moron
Wait can you watch HDR movies in normal screens without getting the colors wrong? I skipped pirated 10bits hdr rips because I thought I was going to see them wrong on my regular ips screen
Nice, thanks
I noticed it during watching the original top gun in 4k HDR 10bit rip
took a screenshot on my non-HDR monitor with madvr settings off and playing the colors were completely washed out
when i checked the screen shot it turned out picrel
thats when i realized it was a scam and looked up how to disable it
here's what it looks like without the madvr settings
>all it does is increase the contrast
L M A O
Why are people ITT so fixated on the image I posted? I just took some random pic off google.
because they're the same idiots who can see an add for 4k on their 720p screen and try to scrutinize if it really looks any clearer
>mfw just learnt bracketing
This shit is like cheating.
Is that shit even needed these days? I can expose and underexpose like 4 steps in my raw files without noticeable degradation.
What do you mean exactly? I mean there's no way I could have made that pic if I didn't bracket shoot.
Woah higher resolution makes the world less gray?
bait/10
call me when HDR covers the entire spectrum