He did nothing wrong, at this point I like the "villains" more than the protagonists.
He did nothing wrong, at this point I like the "villains" more than the protagonists.
He did nothing wrong, at this point I like the "villains" more than the protagonists.
How many times is this show going to pull a powerful superhero out of thin air?
Isn't that like the whole point anon?
This. I need to know the names and addresses of all the most powerful heroes from episode 1. We need trackers on their whereabouts every season and we need their POV reacting to all major events. Only then will I accept any other hero outside of the main cast.
Soldier Boy was casually mentioned by Edgar in season 2, same with Tek Knight. But I guess if Tek Knight shows up in season 4 he’s also popped up out of thin air, right?
season 4 will be a trash heap regardless of the specific pieces of garbage it includes. the writers have proven themselves incapable of anything else
>tek knight
isnt he from invincible
Nope, not sure what character you’re thinking of.
Woops thinking of Tech Jacket
He's from The Boys. He's a parody of Batman and Iron Man.
I'm like 80% sure that Soldier Boy was shown multiple times in season 2 though he wasn't played by Ackles yet. In like old photos, statues, etc.
How fricking fuming do you think the show runners are that the characters the audience most connected with was Deep, their heckin rape man, Homelander, their heckin drumpf man, Stormfront, their heckin literal nazi lady and Soldier Boy, their heckin evil boomer? Like no matter what villain they throw at the audience, they accidentally make them the most popular characters and the fans root for them instead of the unlikeable heroes.
Bruh, only chuds around here praise Homelander.
Homelander is the only reason why this show has 3 seasons
t. chud
He's right, trannoid
Why are you obsessed with transvestites?
Why are septic axewound fetishists so obsessed with controlling the narrative to impose their disgusting fetishes on everyone else, especially children in schools?
The writers know this even though they pretend it isn't the case. They know HL is likeable and the reason most people watch the show which is why they couldn't kill him at the end of this season even though the main characters had the opportunity to.
Which main character have they killed so far?
Homelander’s mommy in s1 is the only actual main character death in this no stakes show
The stakes are there. But I do believe MM should have died with Solder Boy.
>The stakes are there
no, they really aren't. s1 success made the show a flagship and desperate to milk the status quo as long as possible for subscriptions
If they kill Kimiko you will be here reeeeeing to no avail for days. There are stakes. They are just not what was expected, probably because Amazon didn’t predict the show’s potential, so they are slowing down the timeline to make more seasons.
yes everyone loves kimiko but literally nobody who watches the show thinks there’s any chance of her dying until the last half of the final season comes around. hence the low stakes.
They like to surprise the audience. If I had to guess, I think mother’s milk is the first to die. He’s not that necessary to the story and the gap on the group would provide a good character development for everyone.
Killing butcher is killing the show to no narrative avail, since he has a death wish since the start. Now... losing someone who just wants to do justice to his family etc.. yeah, that would be my choice.
>If they kill Kimiko you will be here reeeeeing to no avail for days
no i've been skipping kimiko/frenchie scenes since s1
>There are stakes
no, there aren't
>they are slowing down the timeline to make more seasons
yeah that's what i said, and it's shit
after how shitty s2 and s3 were i won't be watching s4
That’s your moronic way to see a series, if you skip scenes how even the frick you follow the series in a comprehensive way.
>be me
>reading GOT
>oh, it’s an Arya POV
>discard it totally
You end up not understanding shit.
>if you skip scenes how even the frick you follow the series in a comprehensive way
quite easily, actually. their scenes are rarely relevant to the plot
They are always relevant to the plot Black person. Or will be. Won’t the boys need a chemist and a self regenerating ninja? Come on dude
well i already said i won't be watching s4 because of how bad the writing is, so their potential future relevance isn't relevant
i skipped their scenes for 3 seasons and didn't miss a main plot beat, because they're gaiden
Thats not really the reason. He’s their Voldemort. He’s the yang to the ying that are the boys. If you want to kill HL you need to build up another character, which they didn’t do. I’m guessing the show will end next season, maybe 2 more if they want to stretch their money maker.
Butcher is also a very necessary character. He’s about to die - presumably - and the show dies with him. If Butcher dies, Homelander needs to die too. That’s the corner they wrote themselves into.
Homelander has been completely deconstructed from that role in the show. By this stage he’s just a meaningless wildcard rabid dog roaming around and doing unhinged shit. He could have been killed off in season 2 and it wouldn’t have resolved the main storyline. Homelander was clearly the final boss in season 1 but they pivoted away from him. They could have killed him off in s3 and had Soldier Boy take over.
>Soldier Boy teaming up with his grandson
It could have been good.
While I agree in part he’s not a wildcard in the sense that you know what motivates what he does: a sense of family (however warped it is) and his giant ego. He is not predictable because he is emotional, but he’s not chaotic. If he was, Deep and Atrain would be dead. He still considers that them fearing him is of use. Therefore he is, to some point, rational.
The ticking time bomb is on the hand of the boys, provided they know how to use what HL values the most as their advantage.
Even in the comics Homelander is probably the most charismatic character.
the craziest thing is that homelander is such a good villain because his origin is understandable and at a point kind of relatable. he literally didn't choose this life. if anything it's a good story about human greed and existential crisis which defines a lot of americans today as we live in our own greed. he's genuinely the most relatable character to americans because he is what we are
Bruh, only homosexuals who hang out in troony discord say "chuds"
have you read the amazon reviews
Homelander and soldier boy are the only good parts of the show
>Homelander
>Good
The actor does a great job with what he has but the character is really badly written
Really shows the difference with what a good actor can do
i don't know about the other three but normies love SOULdier boy and it makes twitter leftoids seethe
>the characters the audience most connected with was Deep
KEK
Soldier Boy isn't even a boomer, he grew up during the dust bowl, for fricks sake. He's part of the greatest generation.
Isn't the whole point of the show for the "good guys" to be just as awful as the bad guys. Only reason The Boys are seen as the "heroes" of the show is because we get their PoV and justifications to do horrible things.
>Isn't the whole point of the show for the "good guys" to be just as awful as the bad guys
Butcher is the only protagonist they’re comfortable painting in a negative light and they’re pulling back from him being a bloodthirsty maniac by giving him the A NEED TA SAIVE MA WOIFES SAN storyline
MM is a vengeful, unhinged, violent and obsessive piece of shit, Hughie is a whiny and selfish b***h who murdered innocent soldiers the moment he got to taste superhero juice. Frencie is a straight up hitman for hire. Kimiko is murderous maniac who clearly enjoys ripping people's faces off. The people like wagie security personel they murder are literally just collateral damage for them just like innocent people are for the supes they try to stop. Also I have no idea what Starlight sees in Hughie at this point.
I can't fricking stand Hughie, I'm not sure if it's the actor or his character, but seeing him in a romantic scene with someone so totally out his league makes me cringe.
It's the writing. In the comics he had the same situation with Starlight but in that you're routing for him because she's out of his league but you can clearly see that they're both better for one another. I don't get how the writers seem to be convinced that having romantic conflict like this works for this series when every other day they're nearly dying.
only Butcher is portrayed as an anti hero, and even he gets the tragic backstory treatment. The others are without a doubt the good guys, even Starlight who killed an innocent man protecting his property.
When the frick did the deep rape anyone. She gave him a blowjob cause she wanted to fit in moron
a better question is why can't right wingers make good tv shows or art in general? i mean the richest man on the planet voted republican so you don't have any excuses even.
What are you talking about OP?! He was accused of being a RACIST by a BLACK person. That makes him the most evil creature in the history of creation!
Soldier Boy and Black Noir deserved better. I feel like this show was written by two complete different writers
wdym
every episode felt like it had a different writer
>every episode felt like it had a different writer
We both mean the same thing. Some episodes make SB look like a decent guy. Other make him a complete piece of shit. It didn't feel right that how would try to Ryan even if he did laser his arm.
What the hell happened with Black Noir? All that character build up just to kill him in an anticlimactic way.
I can't believe they left A-Train and Deep alive.
Yeah, BN had a stupid ending that was in no way necessary for the finale. Exploration through his comic infused mind for the next season would be better. But I don’t know. Hell, nobody knows what’s gonna happen. They are chaotic neutral writing the show.
Will Butcher inject the V when he’s about to die? Will Hughie use it and realize he survives, therefore he’s able to have powers? Cliffhangers are great if you don’t do them for 9 seasons straight. I expect them to end the series next season.
>I expect them to end the series next season.
Kripke has said the target is five, but since the Boys is far and away Amazon Prime's most successful product I wouldn't be surprised if it continues on forever, even if he quits as showrunner.
Kek were really getting fricking 15 seasons of this like we did with his last show after he quit in season 5
I hope Black Noir some how regenerates from this. I really like his schizo cartoon friends. Instead of making him do horrific shit(like Homelander), they actually seem like they want him to do good and encourage him.
I think it was the biggest let down of the finale. Not needed at all.
there's already been way too many death fakeouts this season. BN surviving is too much.
I still have hope
Black Noir was a tool in Homelander's arc, showing how deranged he's become in that he will murder his best friend in the vain hope that his daddy will love him
the finale was bad but people who whine that Black Noir's death was "anticlimactic" are just marvel capeshitters mad they didn't get their favorite action figure to fight
You are reading it wrong, IMO.
I think he hates the idea of being caught offguard, and that’s why he went scourged earth on Vought. He doesn’t want to be controlled. And a secret is some form of control. He got mad and wrecked him. MO all over again.
"Homelanders arc" hahahaha ok Amazon shill. His "arc" of wanting love from a parental figure, wow what an "arc", real growth for this character, it broke new ground!
It did the moment his son accepted seeing his dad blow a man’s face to pieces.
the issue is that you also stop a character's development in its track when it's just hitting crescendo
he was a useless background tool for 2 and a half seasons, became relevant, was given an interesting character and was given something to fight towards and then they removed the train tracks right from under him just as he was becoming an actual character
that's just bipolar and unsatisfying writing
I agree with most of what you're saying but do you really think Noir's character was used in the most interesting way just being killed off suddenly like that? Since the beginning I've been thinking something really interesting will be revealed about him and he'll have a good story but it never really happened. Doesn't make me a marvelgay.
Yeah of course noir can show solidarity with a-train, simply because he's black, even though a-train is a massive piece of shit. But whites aren't allowed to.
That's the scene with the dead whale.
Season 3 aka nothing fricking happened the series.
We're up to seasonal big bad territory now. They'll drive this into the ground with 10+ seasons with no real threats or danger and the status quo never changing.
They had a chance this season and they intentionally veered away at every opportunity.
wow it's like you were being led along to think him teaming with Butcher is cool only to turn him evil by the end so they restore the status que for the next season. TV shows have one show runner, writers are overglorified type writers.
Jude law could be homelander. Prove me wrong.
Hairline
They have props. Bet if they had the money Law would be homelander. Or something of sort. The guy casted is perfect for the job tho.
>hurr durr they don't kill based Homelander because everyone loves Trump akchually
They haven't killed anyone. Butches is immortal, Hughie is immortal, MM, Frenchie, Starlight, Deep, A-Train.
The only S1 character they killed was Noir and he has like 20 minutes of screen time for 3 seasons.
Errmmmmm sweetie, guess you didn't realise that YOU yes YOU are exactly the kind of person the writers are making fun of? I know you're a CHUD and you can't comprehend this level of satire but it's true. Homelander is even partially based on DRUMPF. Bet you feel stupid now lmao
Like come on OP didn't you hear Hughie say that toxic masculinity is bad? So if you like Soldier Boy you are bad. The TV show said it.
The satire is literally entry-level 80 IQ shit and it still passes over chud's heads who think the shit being made fun of is super based and redpilled.
>attempt to make a character people dislike based upon your politics
>people like it
>we did this on purpose REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
What are Homelander's politics, you absolute moron? Starlight running a pedo ring?
Homelander is like Trump in that he has no coherent ideology beyond assuaging his own ego and will say/do anything in any given moment that he believes will win him the most adulation from as many people as possible.
He's vaguely nationalistic and racist, but that's mostly due to his own vanity and ignorance rather than any actual commitment to racial politics. He isn't an actual Nazi, but he dogwhistles and panders to them simply because they worship him and make him feel good about himself
Homelander's parental issues are a core part of his character, though? Did you miss how many scenes there are where he cries about being grown up in a lab, drinking breastmilk, his angst over Mommy Stillwell not actually loving him, how the scientist who created him said what he needed/wanted most of all was simply a family that loves him, etc.
If you think Homelander wanting adoration from a parental figure is "le writing bad xD" you should have been complaining about it years ago, moron. You're just an MCU gay who's mad le epic Black Panther/Batman analogue didn't get to kung fu kick people
>Did you miss how many scenes there are where he cries about being grown up in a lab, drinking breastmilk, his angst over Mommy Stillwell not actually loving him, how the scientist who created him said what he needed/wanted most of all was simply a family that loves him, etc
That's exactly my point you fricking halfwit
>Homelander is like Trump in that he has no coherent ideology beyond assuaging his own ego and will say/do anything in any given moment that he believes will win him the most adulation from as many people as possible.
I back Trump all the way, and the handfisted garbage this show tries to sell is laughable.
Flight 37 happened with HL. BN didn't do the shit like in the books, because HL and BN (comic) are the same in this universe.
I find it hilarious you leftgays can't even get over the fake installment of the POTATUS to watch a show that's being run into the ground (like Supernatural - good job, Kripke).
Bookgays will know that Butcher killed everyone in Payback single-handedly (he used a construction site for the ambush) except for Stormfront, whom he beat to death with MM and Vas, IIRC.
Honestly, I like watching the show just to see how poor a job they're doing with Garth Ennis' stuff. Maybe the next season ends with Butcher killing the rest of the Boys just to set things right with the book ending, but it's likely going to have Butcher and HL dead and the series open for spin offs so the israelite globalists can make more money.
>Thinking Homelander is going to die next season
>Maeve isn't cast for next season
Season 5 is going to be the end of Homelander with a comic book style get together.
I doubt they'll do a Butcher genociding all supes ending so Season 5 would probably be the end
>trumpgay has a bad opinion
It doesn't pass over anyone's head brainlet. We're just capable of making up our own minds about what we like.
>at this point
I’ve liked the “villains” more since season 2. Mainly because they actually do shit. Whereas the “heroes” will spend 9 episodes whining about how nobody can die, laugh about murdering innocent security guards, then refuse to kill the most dangerous man on the planet.
The comics Boys were always antiheroes, the show writers insist on trying to make them genuine capeshit heroes and it’s embarrassing
>The comics Boys were always antiheroes, the show writers insist on trying to make them genuine capeshit heroes and it’s embarrassing
This is the dumbest thing because the writers have an easy and organic resolution to this. Butcher going psycho mode is clearly the endgame, so just let Kimiko and Frenchie (maybe MM too) be the moral pure heart good guys while Butcher and Hughie start losing their shit. The Boys have to break up at some point anyway.
karen is so cute bros...
She’s genuinely prettier in the series than on real life. Due to haircuts and shit. But damn she’s a cutie. Jap or Worst Korea?
glorious nihon
Godlike qt
this is the only asian I have ever found attractive
Strange considering there are at least 500 million Asian girls who look exactly like her
>Ouhhh… Husbant…
>Kimiko wants her powers back so she can maul and eviscerate helpless security guards
>yassss kween slay
>Hughie wants powers so he can protect the woman he loves and not be a useless c**t for once
>omg toxic masculinity
Anon Temp V is lethal
She didn't know that when she started nagging, tho.
and neither did Hughie
oh
Starlight is a supe Frenchie is not
Hughie has made basically every choice he’s made since season 2 due to insecurity
>insecurity
It's okay to be weak. It's not okay to stay weak. The idea that Hughie needs to accept being dead weight is ridiculous feminist bean-flicking.
>insecurity
Can you blame him; remember Robin?
I'll play devil's advocate here. I hate that uppity c**t Starlight like the next person, but:
Hughie was taking an experimental drug that might kill him (and later it turns out will definitely kill him) I mean, who would be stupid enough to take an experimental drug, amirite, Ameritards? I hope you all took your fourth boosters, frickers
Kimiko was already a supe once, so her genes clearly are a match for compound V, so she'll survive if she takes it.
My issue is him not taking the drug at the end to save his friends from Soldier Boy. What man wouldn't give up his own life to save his friends and the woman he loves?
The problem with The Boys writers is they genuinely don't understand an average man's motivations in life.
>This
You could have literally ended the show with Homelander and Soldier Boy teaming up and the others getting their asses kicked.
So when Soldier Boy prepares his Chekovs Gun beam he would have teleported behind the 2 and with an "I am Sorry" grin just teleported himself and the other 2 to the Moon.
So the show starts with UH1H losing his first gf but saving the other.
Adhering to established gender norms is pro patriarchy. Also not adhering to established gender norms makes you a bottom begging to be raw-dogged.
i dont understand why he decided to kill homelander
he was doubtful about doing it the entire episode, he tells butcher that story about how he wanted to have a son so that he could be the father he never had and then he meets homelander and without any hesitation he is like "yup gonna kill my son"
he already agreed to kill him before he even found out he was his son, and then when he actually met him he surmised his character and that he had no connection to him at all. the point of his own daddy issues is to show that he would like a son and even though he wants a son to raise and do better by than he was, homelander is such a piece of shit that he cant overlook that
>he surmised his character
"surmised"
you just handwaved thousands of hours of missing character development
he was a fricking disappointment
He was channeling some of that Mark Anthony energy there.
Same. Its just bad writing
Because he reveals that he has deep self hatred and regret over his abuse of power and "taking a shortcut" as his father told him, his whole life is built on lies and insecurity. So when he meets Homelander and sees that he is making the same mistakes he once did (but much worse) he decides that he will do the right thing for once, even if it goes against what he has always wanted.
you people are easy to predict
So what
they really should've just let him fricking blast homelander and ryan right there when he had a clean shot. maeve was the only non moron, she actually did some solid damage to homelander. imagine if butcher and SB were there to help her instead of fighting eachother...
Looks like it's all coming to a head on JANUARY 6TH. JANUARY 6TH shit hits the fan. Hey remember JANUARY 6TH. Remember the death of democracy. Remember the insurrection on JANUARY 6TH. 1/6, like the new 9/11. DRUMPF. ORANGE MAN BAD. JANUARY 6TH.
>JANUARY 6TH
The subtle satire of a ball-peen hammer on your fricking kneecaps
Heh I guess that would be pretty based
>imagine someone shooting our dear leaders' favorite son, a child
>wouldnt that be the most epic shit ever
conservashits, everyone.
i like these character designs tho
>Imagine someone shooting our dear leader's favourite son
Huh?? Can you read, homosexual?
You’re a lil moronic but that’s okay. You will never leave.
Each day I am amazed at how difficult reading comprehension is for some people.
This is the 2nd time they created an "Evil Captain America" that was better and more patriotic and represents America more than the original
Soldier Boy being another “one season rental” main villain was disappointing, they did the same fricking thing last time with Mommyfront. I’m guessing they’re gonna do the same shit with a new villain next season until we get to the end where they’re actually allowed to make Butcher evil.
He was stashed by the CIA. Guess they have plans for him, being that he basically denies powers with his power.
>Storefront
Butcher is already an evil cuck.
Okay, am I missing something? is HL immune to Head-popper?
Why the hell is Nadia so afraid of HL's blackmail if she can just pop HL's head right away.
He literally tells her he'll notice and kill her before she has the chance to focus on him long enough to do it
Yeah what the anon said, probably why he’s still alive at this point.
>is HL immune to Head-popper?
well he's a supe, one of the strongest, obviously he's more resistant to the headpopping. would probably find her with his x-ray vision if she was attempting it from a distance.
Always just assumed he'd withstand it. And after seeing multiple people in the final fight just take the eye lasers head on I'm more convinced of that. There are degrees to superhuman durability and it's probably SB > HL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest
Anyone got webms of him kicking homelanders ass. Or killing the other supes. Any soldier boy webms would be highly appreciated.
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/8UFIYGkROII?t=13
I unironically think Starlight is a great female character and her actress isn't even that good. the episode arc which starts and ends with her digging her fingernails into herself was great.
Rewatched the first season. It's like a completely different show.
More happens in the first episode than all of season 3. Even the action scenes are better.
Well, the shock value of seeing supes being evil is long gone now. They still could've made a better job with the finale.
Drunk on their own success.
Theyre now in full GOT popularity mode, where they make entire seasons full of filler and nothing happens. Im personally done with the boys. It was fun while it lasted. The worst part is how the story arcs should have gone from a writing point of view (not comics):
>A-train's arc is concluded
>He tried everything to get back into the 7
>He betrays anyone and everyone, yet Homelander still treats him like shit
>He gets Supersonic killed
>The one time he actually wants to do the right thing and confront Bluehawk, he gets his own brother paralyzed
>Instead of taking him to court and fighting Vought, he murders him in a cowardly way
>Dies of a heart attack
That would have been the perfect conclusion to his story arc. Instead now hes survived 2 heartattacks in 3 seasons and it just feels like they all have plot armor.
It really makes no sense for him to still live and be healthy even. Deep is clearly there for the comedic effect of being Homelander's b***h, but A-train is past his usefulness to the plot.
he’s there so the writers could make homelander say yummers
>past his usefulness
perhaps you didn't see the other black guy died. it'd be racist to dump the a-train now too
how about meave ?
she tanked souljaboy blast to the face while falling from a skyscrapper lmao, nvm the fact that she almost solo'ed Homelander despite getting knocked the frick out by blacknoir.
You know I too distracted at the time by how fricking moronic it was that she survived to see what else it implies. Homelander would have definitely survived, he just (might) have been depowered
Maeve is the reason Im done watching the boys. The second I saw that she survived I was done. A-train surviving was already a huge frick up. Maeve AND SB surviving is literally the dumbest thing in the entire series. It basically leaves SB as a plot device to use in the future, where he will do the same thing again. Maeve dying would have been the perfect arc for her too. Redemption for leaving the people to die on that airplane.
I love him, he's so manly
>my dick was hard when 2 naked busty grannies jerking off in front of Soulja Boi
I-it is normal, right?
I find it more impressive that he was doing it with REO Speedwagon playing in the back.
i wish jane wyman was still alive so we could see soldier boy ass-frick her one more time.
why can't they keep homeboy's hair color consistent?
>He did nothing wrong, at this point I like the "villains" more than the protagonists.
>i don't support the current thing
pottery
I was confused by his motivations in the last ep. Why would he bother fighting any of them when he realised they were all fricking idiots? He clearly wanted to take out Homelander as part of the deal to find his old team. But, when he realised Butcher wanted to save the kid, which would of course jeopardise the attempt to kill Homelander, why didn't he just say "frick it?" He clearly didn't want to be a long-lost dad, and up until that point he hadn't really interacted with HL.
He can't fly, what's he gonna do, walk out of the door while several people are trying to murder him?
But, my point is, why did he even bother to fight and not just walk away? Also, bit weird for MM to call him racist. Like, where did that come from?
>what's he gonna do, walk out of the door
Pretty much
Getting revenge on the people who sold you to the Russians to be tortured for the rest of your life is BAD.
It's only gonna get worse.There will be no character development untill the end,Annie always HAS to be right about everything,her superpower is actually being all knowing or something.I am screenshooting my own post that a woman will kill HL but Huey will take out Butcher and maybe him and Annie adopt Ryan.
Will they bring her back bros? They wouldn't do that hitchhiking scene in season 2 for no reason, right?
There's gonna be a spinoff about Vought school for gifted children or whatever the frick it is, basically I think they're gonna rip on/off X-Men and I think she'll pop up there
>Heroes
Inherently good
>Villains
Inherently bad
>Protagonist
Not inherently good/bad, they're just the people the story follows
>Antagonists
Not inherently good/bad, they're just the people who oppose the protagonists
Soldier Boy is a heroic antagonist
idiot
>Vought mommy
>Storm mommy
>Maeve mommy
Which one, lads?
Maeve > Stillwell >>>>>>>>>> Stormfront
Maeve is a step above the rest. Her gf also has mommy energy
>Maeve is a step above the rest. Her gf also has mommy energy
If only all lesbos IRL as good-looking as those two
Stillwell has great booba but smug self hating khazar schizo mommy just seems too good to pass up.
goddamn starlight looked great in season 2
It was truly remarkably unpozzed of them to actually put Erin in the bawd costume just for coombait
>First time meeting his son
>Son just says he's happy to have a dad
>Soldier Boy calls him a sniveling pussy
But why? We don't even see Soldier Boy doing research or anything on Homelander
That really seemed to come out of thin air as if he was watching from Season 1.
>Butcher says Not the boy
>Proceeds to fight Soldier Boy
Why not just take Ryan and leave?
>Maeve fights Homelander instead of Butcher
She was prepared to kill EVERYONE in vought tower just to kill Homelander. Why did she suddenly say frick it? She could have gone and just beat the shit out of Butcher letting SB kill Homelander.
>SB keeps trying to kill Homelander even after Butcher betrays him
WHY?! They didn't show anything to show that Soldier Boy hated Homelander in fact he seemed remorseful he wasn't around.
>MM calling Soldier Boy a racist
Based on fricking what? He was working for Vaught and the government. Why is he just some racist?
>Maeve can now injure soldier boy and keep up in a fight after being defeated one sidedly and then held hostage for months
HOW FRICKING HOW
It all makes no fricking sense
Because they wanted to end the series in a certain way and everything that came before it had to be compromised.
It's like they cut 5 episodes
>Butcher says Not my wife's son
i dont even like s3 but here are your answer
>sniveling pussy
...starve for attention. he judge hl based on his latest tiktok vid.
>why did she suddenly say frick it?
because the blast is targeting starlight & friends.
>Based on fricking what?
he killed mm's entire family like nothing.
>he killed mm's entire family like nothing.
They were collateral and no where was it show that he has a dislike of black people, he even praised cosby, a black guy.
thats fricking weird dude its almost like MM is making baseless assumptions about him you know like people do in real life...
I wished him and MM actually talked so we can know what happened
I did expect that to happen. I wonder why we didn't get it. Soldier Boy could have easily explained that he didn't know his family were affected. I mean, if you go throwing cars around you can expect collateral damage, so it's clear he's just another dickhead supe, but no where was it implied he carelessly threw a car at a house because it had black people in it. Plus, we had that with Stormfront in S2. Why repeat it?
The worst about SB is that he's an arrogant butthole, but I don't think he would just go kill a random black family for the fun of it.
Yep. Supes are bullies and narcissists, mostly. Utterly self-delusional. They're basically Hollywood actors with super powers. Nothing this season showed SB as a racist.
The logic of the final ep seemed to twist. Maeve switched motivations on a dime, SB continuing to fight Homelander/Butcher with seemingly no reason to care about any of their squabble after the revelations was also odd. I think they just had to find a way to write Maeve out and put SB back on ice.
I think it's pretty easy to imagine SB wanting to take Homelander out and become the top dog again. Still doesn't justify the poor writing and absolute failure of establising that motive.
>But why? We don't even see Soldier Boy doing research or anything on Homelander
>That really seemed to come out of thin air as if he was watching from Season 1.
Jesus, why are people this moronic? Why are you looking for these kinds of answers when it's extremely fricking simple? He obviously just doesn't see a test tube baby that he never even fricking saw till that point his real son, probably not even a full human.
Boy calls him a sniveling pussy
>But why?
Because Homelander is clearly starved for attention.
says Not the boy
to fight Soldier Boy
>Why not just take Ryan and leave?
Presumably he still wanted to kill Homelander.
fights Homelander instead of Butcher
>She was prepared to kill EVERYONE in vought tower just to kill Homelander.
She was prepared to kill randos in Vought Tower, doesn't mean she wanted her friends to die.
>She could have gone and just beat the shit out of Butcher letting SB kill Homelander.
This is a valid question, but it's already been established that Soldier Boy can't beat Homelander on his own. If Maeve didn't stall him, he would've ganked Soldier Boy, ruining the entire plan.
>>SB keeps trying to kill Homelander even after Butcher betrays him
>WHY?!
Does he? I remember him just fighting Butcher and the boys when they try to beat his ass.
>>MM calling Soldier Boy a racist
>Based on fricking what?
Soldier Boy killed his family? What makes you think MM is thinking rationally? That said, Soldier Boy is a boomer from a century ago, he probably is racist.
can now injure soldier boy and keep up in a fight after being defeated one sidedly and then held hostage for months
>HOW FRICKING HOW
You mean injure Homelander? It was established that she was busting ass training specifically to fight him. BN and HL took her out in an ambush, but I think in a 1v1 it's not unreasonable for her to stall him for a while. Keep in mind she gets permanently injured, only surviving thanks to her quick thinking, and all Homelander gets is a bloody nose and shit.
Honestly Maeve deserved her performance. She's a Wonder Woman expy but they slept on her the entire series. We hardly saw her do anything, much less fight. Glad she got a cool fight before they wrote her out of the show.
>Presumably he still wanted to kill Homelander.
One would think that, but then you got that moment when both of them've just eye beamed SB and they look at each other in complicity.
They're trying to protect Ryan, mane. And they've shown before that they can be pretty civil about planning on killing each other.
>Homelander is clearly starved for attention
Yeah that 2 second of wanting to connect with him... all you need to know after seeing SB having a mental breakdown over it.
>Presumably he still wanted to kill Homelander
Then never touches Homelander. At this rate it's going to be a My 2 Dads ending with Homelander and Butcher raising Ryan
>doesn't mean she wanted her friends to die
She's known Butcher for like a month and barely knows anyone other than Starlight who wasn't even there. Hell she had a whole character arc about hating that she let innocent people die
>What makes you think MM is thinking rationally
His delivery was typical like all his other lines nothing to indicate him being irrational and said with conviction.
>she was busting ass training specifically to fight him
And then she went into captivity for over 2 months and that is ignoring the fact that Homelander is just blatantly stronger and it's not something a work out routine can overcome.
>She gets permenantly injured
Homelander could rip her head off with 1 hand and instead just takes her eye then she jumps out of a window surviving a nuclear explosion. That is 100% undeserved
The only defense I'm seeing given is that it's just shitty writing and super hero shit so frick writing
>Yeah that 2 second of wanting to connect with him
Soldier Boy has been established as being derisive of emotional expression by men, he's a "traditional manly man."
>Then never touches Homelander
You're upset he didn't start an unwinnable fight after getting his shit pushed in and passing out from Compound V brainfrickery?
>She's known Butcher for like a month and barely knows anyone other than Starlight who wasn't even there.
Holy shit, did you not even watch the episode? Are you getting your opinions from this website? Starlight was there, she partook in the fight against Soldier Boy and had that little power-up moment and everything.
>His delivery was typical like all his other lines nothing to indicate him being irrational and said with conviction
He was clearly mad and has already been established as acting irrationally around Soldier Boy. If your criticism is that the actor didn't sufficiently inflect his voice to show how mad he was, then okay I guess? I think you're just autistic.
>And then she went into captivity for over 2 months and that is ignoring the fact that Homelander is just blatantly stronger and it's not something a work out routine can overcome.
>Homelander could rip her head off with 1 hand
She's a fricking supe, one of the strongest members of the Seven. Why are you acting like she's some namby-pamby that Homelander should've been able to instantly annihilate? You're pretending HL is invincible or some shit when he gets outplayed and barely survives multiple times this season. It is not at all unrealistic for Maeve to stall him for a bit, and you're coping and/or throating Homelander's wiener if you think otherwise.
>The only defense I'm seeing given is that it's just shitty writing and super hero shit so frick writing
No, your criticisms are just moronic. There are legitimate criticisms to be made (e.g. they did BN dirty, making him an actual character and setting up an arc just to end it with no resolution or point), but yours suck.
>Soldier Boy has been established as being derisive of emotional expression by men, he's a "traditional manly man."
He was also having a breakdown over having a son he didn't know. Jumping straight to killing him after a 1 minute not even conversation is a HUGE leap of logic
>Upset blah blah blah
no the entire point of going there was beating homelander and not only does he not harm homelander he teams up with him when Ryan isn't even in the room
>He was clearly mad
The delivery was the same as all of his other lines
>She's a fricking supe
And? She was a mediocre supe and wasn't even in the top of the 7. She's shown her skills in previous seasons and has been man handled by Homelander just this season. Hell Homelander punches holes through supes. This was just garbage writing
>Did BN dirty
not really. They made his death memorable for a side character. They wanted to make the ending about the main cast because they are shit writers
but given that to the best of their horrible writing talent did not do BN dirty
What members of the tribe think is evil and what you think is evil are polar opposites
you fricking anti-semite, you make me sick
The only reason this show is popular is because of the white male leads in Homelander and Butcher. Jensen was a big plus but they got rid off him but still he brightened up the new season considerably. Season 2 was the worst because of Stormfront who was a shit character and a shit actress.
WHERE WE AT A-TRAIN BROS
Is he going to get redemption, or is he going to keep sucking up to Homelander
Is he really racist? That line felt kind of out of nowhere
Idiots on Twitter seem to think SB is racist because he used to beat up Black Noir. Apparently during the cartoon segment, SB quoted a character from The Jefferson's (I have no idea what that is) in which he suggests black people trying to better themselves is a no no. MM wouldn't have known any of that, at all. I feel like we missed some scenes or justification.
Given the A-Train angle, in which the show acknowledges that stats show black people are disproportionately responsible for violent crime in the US (and the disproportionate victims), yet it still pushed the idea of over-policing as purported by an honest-to-goodness kids' coach, I think we know what was going through the writer's mind: any bad thing to happen against black people is racist.
>any bad thing to happen against black people is racist.
A-Train (blk ppl) said sorry to Hugh (wht ppl) but Hugh punched him anyway
>So many male butt scenes in Peacemaker
>Hemsworth butt scene in Thor:L&T
>Tons of male butt scenes in TheBoys S3
Coincidence? I really don't think so.
Fricking israeliteliwood. I hate their propaganda so much.
Asslet seething about getting assmogged. Do some hip thrusts and squats. You'll get it eventually.
oh no I’m so mad at seeing peoples asses on tv save me jesusman
you guys made this sound way worse than it was
i look forward to the homelander dynasty
I feel like S1 orgy is more wild than Herogasm orgy
>add new character
>write him so with every passing second he just keeps widening the gap between him and whoever the 2nd best character is
>oh wait we need more seasons so we need to keep homelander around
>uhh nevermind the new character is bad because...because
>everyone turns on him because....because
>uhhhh uhhhh frick just have MM call him a racist chud and the audience will go along with him despite the fact that we wrote SB to do nothing to really show that he is
Unironically what was the point of Hughie saving Gay Train, he’s done fricking nothing except get bullied by Homelander
Did he live or die? I could tell what the frick happened in that mess of an ending
He's alive and sedated at a CIA facility
t. Spee D. Watcher
>"She's not dying. I am not going to be the showrunner who kills off an LGBT character, like, frick that. So you better start getting your heads around "How do we have her gracefully leave, but give her a happy ending?'"
>we can't kill maeve, she's lgbt!
>make blue hawk gay to emasculate him right before we kill him
It must be a shit post or a troll since they opened the series with a homosexuals death for a laugh.
Nope, the fact that he is dictating it to the rest of the writers and gave a shout out to the inexperienced writers that wrote the finale tell me he isn't that involved outside of the main plot threads, despite being the head writer.
SB is not racist, I mean he love Afghans
>Spent 75% of S3 to find the SB-Killing weapon
>It's basically that "Gas"
>Somehow doesn't use that "Gas" to sedate Homelander for eternity
PEAK COMEDY
It wouldn't work on him.
Did they ever mention that though?
It's zylon b
black noir isn't dead btw
He fricking better be, he’s the only main character they’ve killed off since Stillwell. And he’s not even a main character.
There's a new Black Noir coming...I won't spoil the twist.
the black noir from the comics isn't happening.
Well something will happen regardless.
https://ew.com/tv/black-noir-nathan-mitchell-recast-the-boys-season-4/
a man walks into a bathroom stall, pulls down his pants, and sits on the toilet
something will happen
Or nothing could happen if it’s a false alarm, as is sometimes the case when shitting.
>physically bullied and molested his former teammates
>kills roughly 50 innocent people and murders former teammates
Yeah, hes a saint.
It's not like his former teammates were angels either. I don't see how doing bad stuff to bad people is that bad.
Its still murder. What about the 50+ innocent people he killed? What about the hundreds of people he would have killed if he actually blew up Vought tower?
In his line of work accidents happen. Sure saying "he did nothing wrong" might be a bit hyperbolic but all things considered he's not that bad of a guy. He had really good reason to blow that tower up and I'm pretty sure if Vaught wanted they could have easily warned everyone and evacuate the tower. Can't really blame him on that one.
You keep pussyfooting around the issue and blatantly try to pretend like he didnt kill over 50 people in the span of days. Hes a dangerous killer, who has no regard for the safety of civilians on his personal vendetta.
Hes a bad person by any moral standard and hes a murderer from a legal standpoint. You simply are trying to make a political point, because the handsome guy you admire isnt just evil because hes racist. Hes evil, because he is.
Everyone in that series is a bad person and murderer from a legal standpoint. Might as well root for the likable and relatable one.
Soldier Boy is one of the few characters who actually tries to put down the crazed maniac supes.
what separates him from the other pure psychopath supes is that he had no control of his atomic blast. If anything it's The Boys' fault for pushing him that far.
I was positive they were going to have Edger being behind him exploding with the Russian music trigger playing, but then... nope
Guess the actor just had something come up and just kind of left the show for the season
WOW HES LITERALLY ME!
How will butcherbros ever recover after this line?
>becomes such a blatant cuckold that SB turns into the audience surrogate voice of reason when questioning it
Didn't he molest that guy
Can some comic reader spoil what happens in the next season?
the comics have nothing to do with the show
it's likely we'll see tek knight finally but he'll have nothing to do with the tek knight in the comic
This is nothing like the comics(which is a good thing), but my guess is that the supes are going to try to take over the US government.
they're too different spoilers don't even apply at this point. though there's one plot they seem to be setting up. when the comic starts Dakota Bob is already president and Victor Neuman his vice-president. Dakota Bob dislikes supes and blocks any attempt to get them anywhere near the Department of Defense. towards the third act they reveal a Vought executive (who in the show was split into two different characters, Stillwell and Stan Edgar) is planning a fake terrorist attack to assassinate the president so that Vic can step up, become president, and give the clear to Vought so they can drop superheroes and make supersoldiers now
only, the plan goes to shit because Vic (who is a literal moron in the comic, a parody of the "perfect" politician who can only do what he's ordered to do) accidentally kills the president, so the assassination plot is rendered useless. around the same time Homelander wants to impress the Vought executive and decides to organize a coup of his own, only without checking in with anybody at Vought so his coup also ends up indirectly fricking up Vought's plan.
>shit father
>degenerate hedonist
>chimps out and kills people
He's a Black person.
The finale and the relationship between Starlight and Hughie could have been better. They're still on track with the their relative storyline based off the comic, so I hope they don't overdo it.
Season 4 could be the political game, while Season 5 is the end. Butcher seems to have more of a heart here, so that could be the season where he redeems himself, and Homelander dies. I enjoy seeing A-Train and Deep suffer their ironic storylines instead of being in the background or simply dying.
>Homelander, Deep, Stan Edgar and Soldier Boy are by far their best characters
What did Amazon mean by this?
RIP Black Noir, that one stung.
Here's hoping he's not actually dead.
>shield
>patriotic soldier theme
So he's just literally Ebil Cap?
If you sit down and describe the final fight from start to finish it really feels like they went full schizo.
>it's another "introduce and defeat some random villain all in the same season" season
>can't pull the trigger and finally kill off A-Train
>can't even pull the trigger and kill off Maeve
>literally write the perfect endings for these characters but do some bait and switch "actually they're not dead!" bullshit instead
>the only person they did kill off was Black Noir, the only supe on the team who's had almost 0 character development
>make Deep break up with his wife destroying the only interesting character quirk he's had for the past 2 seasons
>SB suddenly is a racist for some reason despite showing 0 inclination towards that the entire season
>SB suddenly is super concerned with killing Homelander despite being lukewarm on the whole idea the entire season
>MM, Frenchie, Kimiko filler takes up most of the episodes despite these characters having nowhere left to go development-wise
>Starlight is okay with Kimiko getting her powers back but anybody else getting powers is le bad
I could go on but the writing is absurdly sloppy
is okay with Kimiko getting her powers back but anybody else getting powers is le bad
have you considered she might've been considered about the fatal brain lesions
She was freaking out about it before that was even a plot point. All of the drama between Hughie and Starlight this season originated from the fact that Hughie was taking the V and for some reason that's le bad. The brain lesions thing was introduced afterwards, likely as an explanation for why they can't just keep taking it. In the end it will probably serve as the way to kill Butcher, he'll take one last dose to fight Homelander or something and then it will kill him. That whole exposition was so damn clunky though, they wasted an entire season now where there were pretty much no stakes for The Boys since they were always hocked up on V and invincible, which destroys the charm you got in the first season where you were watching a bunch of normal people try to figure out ways to kill superheroes.
Starlight was okay with Kimiko getting her powers back because it had nothing to do with her plotline
The reason the writing lends itself to the betterment of characters like HL and SB (and not sissies like hughie) has everything to do with the writers being products of their time. These guys are gen X moderates cosplaying as current day liberals. But by today's standards, they are effectively conservatives pretending to be liberals and it shows in their writing: they accidentally made HL and SB the most likeable characters in the show
The writer's can't make a tragic character. It's simple as. If anything bad happens to a character it has to be their fault in some way.
>Payback turns on Soldier Boy
>It's because he was a dick to them
>MM ruins any chance they have of killing Homelander, Soldier Boy killed his parents because he's comically racist or some shit despite being being racist in all the screen time he has
>He gets tortured by Russians for fricking years, well he didn't actually do all that war stuff he keeps talking about, not that we're going to confirm it we'll just have it be a random line this character we just introduced is going to say. We're also never going to address this huge reveal again it's just going to count against him because we say it is
>Him having to fight Homelander, Butcher, and the Boys when they should just kill Homelander, its because he's actually been the real threat the whole time. Something something about us having to deal with all our old mistakes before we can address our new ones.
I was really hoping that there was going to be a twist with MM's parents that they were commie spies or something and Soldier Boy was entirely justified in taking them out(From his point of view) but we couldn't have that because that would be a dilemma. While I don't like the Black Noir plotline in the comics because the clone idea just doesn't make any sense, the effect the twist has on Homelander is what makes it worth while.
>despite being being racist in all the screen time he has
Frick
>Despite not being racist in all the screen time he has
So did Homelander kill Noir for nothing? Soldier Boy didn't like him even after Noir's death.
It wasn't for nothing, Black Noire died so that the main cast could have the spot light
>actually give Black Noir something to do this season
>set up him being the main target of Soldier Boy’s revenge plans
>finally get his backstory
>establish he sees the world with weird cartoon visions
>immediately have him killed by Homelander before he ever even sees Soldier Boy because of HL’s MUH FEELINGS autism
What a waste this season was