>he had le green ears because...he painted houses
Seriously? After 15+ years of investigations that's it?
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>he had le green ears because...he painted houses
Seriously? After 15+ years of investigations that's it?
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look like israeli
Not really he looks more mulatto or irish to me
how do you get paint on your ears and nowhere else
Wasn't he just wearing green headphones?
I don't know, I've never watched the show. But I still post about it on Cinemaphile
No, but that's what it should have been
Literally showed him with them on, was the writer just joking or something?
I think the idea was that he was wearing a mask to block the paint but the mask didn’t quite cover his ears. If you use a spray gun, it’s very possible to splash back at you. Not sure if paint spray guns were that prevalent in the 90s though. Pretty sure they were, even for that sort of casual use.
thats what i always thot until they said paint on ears which is fricking moronic. also the whole case gets solved because some old lady remembered who painted her house 15 years ago
They put a nod to that concept in one of the first episodes, some shit like "that's how detective work can go, days, months, years of a case, and one small detail will crack it"
Wearing a paint respirator
painting houses + tucking cigarettes behind your ear
> be a literally insane moronic person
> Painting houses under the hot southern sun
> wears hat for shade and prevent paint in hair
> wearing coveralls to protect shirt and pants from getting covered in paint
> Gee, how the heck did he get paint on the only exposed part of his body?
Are you moronic?
stop posting weird shit
I don't post..... I just meme.....
Very nice
why would just his ears be green instead of it being on his face?
More importantly, what did the writers mean by this?
They were fans of Soul Reaver
hastur is deified
Cast him in
Tassels hanging down from the garlands.
Time(gate)
>John Deere type ear mufflers
Sounds good to me
Either his daughter got into unsecured case files and saw that photo, or she just had a spooky premonition, or something worse like Marty's in laws being involved somehow.
Not 45 degrees, either of them; bigger tentacle-y one is more Celtic/Malta. Russian prison tattoo heraldry: 40s German shit = "not a snitch".
Nothing, they meant nothing by it, the whole fricking thing build up to nothing.
you know Carcosa
they were Young Gods connosieurs
I get a bad taste in my mouth in these threads.
Aluminium. Ash. Like you smell the psychosphere.
sorry that was me (my psychosphere that is)
Past a certain age, a man with green ears can be a bad thing
kid saw that he had a drop of paint on his ears and didn't describe it properly and this moron took it literally
>in the Cinemaphile threads as this premiered
>me and a couple others theorize the green ears are John Deere type ear mufflers used when people mow lawns with commercial equipment, so suspect it’s the lawn mower guy
>yeah it was him but cuz of green paint when he put paint brushes on his ears
Still bugs the shit out of me
The lawn mower guy was very obviously the suspect. They overplayed their hand by having a random scene of him for no reason
you're full of shit, nobody in the threads guessed it
>I only think about what people posted in the threads on Cinemaphile
LOL
cope. nobody knew who it was when it aired. link your archive post then - you won't.
>no reason
Do you mean the second time you see him? That's not for no reason anon that's the reveal. He stands up and you see his lower face is all scarred.
No, the first scene where he randomly shows up mowing the lawn.
Sorry you were too dumb. I don't live on Cinemaphile so can't help you
>i called it, just nowhere i can prove it!
massive cope.
Why would I need to prove it? you're mad as frick because you're dumb
i accept your concession.
>Why the frick would he be chasing a little girl through the woods with John Deere mufflers?
Still bugs me.
Well fellas, was marty compromised by the cult? All those weird sex drawings his daughter made and the doll reproduction of the cult photo. Banging that young hooker he saved. Him killing le deoux before they can even question him in the field. You could argue he only went with rust in the end to tie up loose ends. He could of truly bonded with rust but still did his evil duties
Forgot to add maybe his wifes family was his initial connection to the cult, she seemed to marry a rich man after she left marty. So she was probably raised with class, but thats a stretch
Maybe not him, but his rich father in law is easy to imagine brushing shoulders with the conspirators. Otoh it's not very believable that they'd use the grandkids of one of their own instead of some random hicks from the swamp. So maybe the girls only saw some tapes when they were staying at their grandpa's and it scarred them.
A big theme is how (1) the main characters only win a partial victory (2) Marty is oblivious to what happens with his family.
subtly implied the (older?) one that grows up and becomes a captain of the bawd team was touched by maggie's father. the whole thing is left very ambiguous but there's hints the grandpa is part of that circle
"Inattention was my sin"
I always thought that it was just the malignant influence on the school and in the society, impregnating everyone weak enough. Her daughter leaving the town early probably save her for further corruption
Oh my god....
The yellah sneed.
>nazi symbol
i mean every time? every single time?
yea Black person.
>HITLER DID THIS? MOTHAFRICKINA ADOLF FRICKIN HITLER DIS THIS???
It's an ancient symbol called a manji and is a solar symbol and the symbol of the buddha
You’ll do this again. Time is a flat circle.
>Time is a flat circle.
hes right you know
>Time is a flat circle
This means literally nothing. Nothing in this fricking show meant anything outside of the case itself.
It was a bunch of pseud shit but piled on fast and hard enough it distracted the viewers from the last subject or topic not being elaborated on whatsoever.
The show itself is extremely well shot and the central mystery is interesting through to the end but literally everything else in the show is mental filler.
It's a sloppy reference to Nietzsche's concept of the eternal recurrence. Stop trying to pretend you're smart enough to understand when something is pseud bullshit if you haven't read even the most mainstream philosophy.
Yeah like I said, pseud shit. None of the philosophical musings of raging alcoholic and super sleuth Matthew McConaughey meant shit in context of the plot. "Time is.....LE FLAT CIRCLE!!??" was just a callback to Reggie LeDubs to show Rust never let go of that moment.
Are you trolling or is this your real position and you want me to respond?
He's an autist. No soul, no actual thoughts or experiences. It's pointless to engage.
>Dude shit happens again sometimes
This isn't a philosophical debate, prettying up the most mundane, obvious shit doesn't make it deep. It means absolutely frick all.
Indepent of the show, do you understand what the concept of the Eternal Return is trying to say? Or more broadly, eternalism?
You can't have conversations with anons who are here to get free therapy by unleashing their angst.
>this means literally nothing
Brainlet take. Multiple events in the show happen over and over (Marty cheating on his wife, Rust and Marty being pulled back into a case they thought they solved, the eternal recurrence of men in power abusing it, etc)
You are somewhat right, I wish there was more to the occultism than squiggly lines, tree figurines, and misrepresented Nietzsche ideas. It gets the job done though.
if they focused more on the occult it wouldn't be more interesting, it would be less interesting. its the intrigue and the fear of the unknown that draws in the audience. the show isn't philisophically compelling, but it was never meant to be. its a detective show.
You should stick to watching mauler analyze mcu shit
You fricking moron,am sick of your nonsense posting,replying to the same fricking posts with the exact same rant because your parents didn't beat you enough to read even a PS2 magazine review and instead you grew up with whatever commerical or TV show your parents forced you to watch and now you're here doing this whole tantrum about the internet owing you some explanation about everything.
>tattoo of young Matthew McConaughey
holy shit anon, you may be right
It's an octopus you moron, look closer
it's an octopus forming an swastika, also look just on top of it, you absolute imbecile
plus AB, SS symbol and the german eagle, yes he is a "nazi"
get use to the times grandpa
Should the show have gone full Lovecraftian? They were definitely inspired by it and hinted at it, but ended up with a banal explanation.
Not really because no show can capture the lovecraft aesthetic. Its good the just danced near it.
The first season feels unique because it genuinely is inspired by Nietzchean philosophy and Lovecraft. You almost get nothing Nietzchean anymore at all - unless it's to outright criticize it. Yes, they didn't go all the way but they were clearly inspired by it. In a police procedural? That's what makes it so damn interesting. It realistically should have nothing to do with it.
It could have had an X-Files style twist where there is some cult that worships a monsterous alien like being and the murders were carried out by some half-ling demon spawn. I guarantee you there's drafts where they went with this but then feared this might be too weird/crazy and toned it down.
That would have been cool but that they already went too far, they for sure toned it down so they can still appeal to the general audience. It woumd have been great if they went all call of cthulhu and found a cult in the forest doing demonic and disturbing shit.
A sort of much more grounded X-files might be interesting. There is a tiny tiny bit of supernatural elements in the world but it's so hidden away unlike X-files where you can't overturn a boulder in a forest without unleashing some ancient alien death weapon.
Yeah that wpuld be great. A show where they read the necronomicon and do the stories from the book just its the samr characthers as they descend into madness and human folly. A shadow over innsmouth episode would be awesome as its one of the rare stories that can be adapted well into other mediums.
So S1 could be just the hints and they get a glimpse of the supernatural elements - the cult, the diety, and the abominations that are half-human half-alien creatures. The detectives then have no idea wtf to make of all this. Then S2 picks up and they're still just clueless and don't even know if what they saw was real. They get visions, past trauma, and wonder if their grip on reality is slipping. Everyone says that the case is closed, it was just some loopy cult, nothing more. Then they delve deeper and increasingly lose their minds until the end of the series.
Yeah and the ending could culminate in them starting another cult and the cycle starts anew with new detectives and them again becoming the villains for reading into stuff humans should never read into.
The philosophy in the show was predominantly inspired by Ligotti, to the point of being accused of plagiarism. The only aspect of it that’s Nieztchean in any way is the “time is a flat circle” stuff.
i've painted houses and ears are probably one of the last places that paint would spill
I got pait on my ears after painting my house. OP smokes wiener
And people still try to claim this shit was better than season 2.
>get one pedo
>act like it's all solved despite there clearly being a lot of powerful people involved
If they went against the powerful people they would had their lives ruined and probably suicided. In that aspect the show is pretty realistic.
Why did people say anything was wrong with the way Rust lived?
needs a litter box full of cat shit
Stop noticing things
There's no answer for this and now it's always just gonna be hanging there
None of that means anything, there was no secret, there was nothing. Its literally a bunch of vignettes that were just meant to look mysterious without any larger cohesion. The writes never intended any of this. I really dont k ow how they could drop the ball so hard.
You're either shitposting or you're extremely low IQ. Or both
shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
I actually read The Yellow King because of this show, its weird and not in a good way, its not even horror. Its a bunch of short stories that are kind of mysterious, people compare it to Lovecraft, but its really nothing like that. There is one interesting thing one of the stories features this phone booth things where people pay to be killed, reminded me of Futurama maybe that's where they got it from. But overall its a bunch of weird but not good mystery stories. Also The King in Yellow is barely mentioned in it.
Well, its really early cosmic horror. The first 4 stories just have elements of cosmic horror in them. Thats what really makes it interesting. The first story is by far the best and rest do sorta drop the ball.
why would she have sex with two guys at once?
what makes someone do that?
I guess she just likes big dicks.Also kek at this headline
>that scene of her watching DP porn while drinking
literally me
It was Maggie's father. He initiated his granddaughter(s)? into the cult. That's why he was so adamant to take them away from Marty
intredasting, maybe it is just supposed to show that these powerful elites can get to anyone, or that their sick ways are being forced onto society.
not sure why everyone's acting like this is some crazy theory when it's clearly part of the show's whole "infected psychosphere" thing
Something is going on but I just cant quite connect it all
she's more tuned in to the psychosphere than rust, on a similar level to reggie or errol but a girl and therefor unable to enjoy it the way they did. it's all some collective unconscious shit, not marty leaving his notes around like people think. notice the fat woman in here drawing with flowers drawn on her lower torso. marty wouldn't have know about any of that until the present day.
I feel like this season would be much more powerful if I were at least vaguely religious. It still is as a general regaining of hope tale, but damn I bet Christians go fricking crazy for that final scene
Christgay here. Can confirm it's my favorite show of all time
Christtards always think everyone wants to hear their opinion. You have the worst taste and the lowest IQs in the world, nobody cares
moronic militant atheists once again proving how close minded they are when they accuse everyone else of being it. Do people's beliefs really bother you that much?
Settle down bud it's not like no one asked
It's quintessentially a return of faith/ideals/philosophy story all in one, that's what people should be pondering on, not paranormal back story shit that only exists to make a well-rounded villain and has no real depth
It's actually a work of Cosmicism whose message is the unrelenting harshness and inhospitality of the universe against which good men can only do what they can. But Christians can't see in more than two colors so it must actually be your Sunday school interpretation.
The ending throws all that cosmicism out the window though and shows that the Ligotti/Nietzsche philosophy expressed by Rust earlier on is the wrong way to go about things
No it doesn't. Literally all the ending says is what I said: we can only do what we can. Notice that they only took down one lawn mowing pedo, not the powerful people in the ring who will simply regroup.
You're not sentient.
You didn't actually expect for them to take down the entire cult did you? Of course that was never going to happen
Ok. You're trying to argue about diegesis, as if you were a person actually living in the show. I'm talking about the theme of the show.
There's multiple themes in the show. It doesn't really have a dominant one nor was it trying to preach some cosmic agenda. My main point is that I don't see why a Christian can't watch this show and have it not resonate on some level with them and their faith. The ending very much implies the existence of an afterlife. Whether it is in a Christian sense or not. All that antinatalism shit Rust was spouting off in the beginning is rendered moot
You can interpret it in your own personal way and derive your own meaning, but it absolutely did have a dominant theme and it absolutely was Cosmicism.
Sure, in the early episodes but that was just laying the groundwork for the ending. My personal interpretation of the show has changed multiple times over the years with each subsequent viewing because I try to understand the objective meaning behind it all. It is much more than just cosmicism
Middle school atheist interpretation who didn't understand the ending
He meets his daughter and dad when he is dying, wtf are you talking about.
I'm talking about the themes of the show that went way over your head. Even when explained, you still don't get it. That should tell you something about yourself, but you are incapable of introspection.
>the themes of the show that went way over your head
Marty literally states your bullshit at the end and Rust refutes him. What you are describing is what the show blatantly lays out until the end, which it is then revealed is bullshit.
Forgot link
It could never "reveal that it's bullshit", you mental toddler. These are deep philosophical debates with origins you can't even pretend to know. All the ending revealed is Rust's character development and his *reaction* to the overarching theme. He breaks down, he can't handle it anymore. That's it.
He breaks down because he realized every conviction about the universe he held earlier was broken down itself. He finds his faith and leaves all that Ligotti bullshit behind
Again, that's his personal journey, not an indication that his convictions represent reality. He's no more manifestly correct than he was when he was a doomed anti-natalist. All that changed is his character, not the world itself.
And I understand that but the reality in-universe of the show is unknowable. That's the whole point.
You understand this show on a level many on this board do not.
He was reacting to the "overarching" theme that he himself was the sock puppet for. He was the only person throughout the show, besides the cultists, that claimed that is how the world is (the show world). In the end, he for the first time refutes the inevitability of "unrelenting harshness and inhospitality of the universe".
I never fricking claimed that the show disproved the philosophical ideas that underline what you are talking about, you have to be moronic and just full of unkept animosity to think that.
>Pizzolatto makes the show seem intelligent by word-for-word quoting authors much smarter than him
>supposedly refutes those authors by having the mouthpiece by which he quoted them say "lol actually I was wrong" at the end
Truly captivating writing.
The cult is not just a backstory though. It's what you said but also reveals how the old gods are still worshipped and sacrificed to in elite circles. Rust and Marty both find new faith through their experiences dealing with them
It is actually crazy this show got greenlit, considering it was likely someone involved was buddies with good ol' Jeff Ep.
Yeah we'll never get anything like it again
Nearly 10 years later and first time I've read this take.
Nice, bro.
I'm tired of not knowing. I'll admit I can't figure it out. Who was the Yellow King?
Wasn't the point do as much as you can and then let go?
So you're not supposed to know, which is the point
Kinda bleak but presented as if it's hopeful
Frick that, they build up a bunch of shit and never delivered.
>um nothing happens is the point.
The whole point of the show is that it's an elite sex trafficking ring that's too big in scope to take down. Just like real life
Frick you
Frick you
>ummmmm its like ummmmmm nothing happens because ummmmm its a smart ending yes ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Frick YOU.
Your kind is the main reason for shitty endings.
the guy with the painted ears
>talkin bout she met a king
The diety the cult worships.
A character from "The King in Yellow" a play in book form that reveals mind destroying secrets of the universe and drives the reader mad. Also potentially a nightmarish lovecraftian god, or a prophet to a nightmarish lovecraftian god named Hastur, depending on who you ask.
Poor Cassilda.
That book had great cosmic elements yet the stories turn into romance shlock at the end.
The Yellow King was a character they saw in and old book and they thought he looked kind of interesting and decided to sprinkle it into the show to add random mystery shit on it without any real purpose.
paranormalgays are salivating for spooky shit in a straight-forward detective show, the only point of it is a cool sounding idol that they worship, there is no grander mystery to it, you're focusing on the wrong shit because of a misplaced hard-on for giant squid
and you didnt watch it
You know CWCorsa?
the frick is all this lovecraft shit? A child thought scars were spaghetti-faced? People really thought that was gonna turn into something supernatural?
you didn't watch the series
Time is a flat circle
How come the other seasons were so bad?
They dropped the cosmic horror angle that was barely present in the first one. The mkst unique thing about the first season was the cosmic horror
Same reason a band's debut album is often their best
You have a bunch of years to kick around ideas and craft and perfect your labor of love and then ship it around hoping someone takes a chance on you
After that it's a corporate profit machine squeezing a creative process out your ass with a deadline of a year or two
Pretty sure the main dude behind it left because he got a movie deal or something, this was his first writing project.
Season two started weak but got better towards the end
Season three was good throughout, I started it with low expectations but was surprised by how much I enjoyed it
We don't like season three here because a behind the scenes pic ruined the mystery about four eps in. And some others don't like how Ali is coloured. Pretty sure anyone who wasn't in the S3 threads probably at least enjoys that season more than 2, whereas people in TD threads prefer 2 for its danker memes.
>how Ali is coloured
Casting a black guy wasn't a problem. Making him a Black person with a chip on his shoulder was the problem.
He was okay on his own, but his wife tried to radicalize him. He unironically dindu nuffin. Just wanted to help dem keedz.
>And some others don't like how Ali is coloured
yep, that's me!!!!!
Found my post in the archive, copy and pasted from that:
>Season 1 had it so that for Rust and Marty, they were hunting "their guy" without bringing down the "sprawl" - they zero in on something small and specific and come out on top against the backdrop of bigger, darker things. They should have done that for season 3 in the sense that Hoyt was running the Arkansas branch some big child trafficking thing. Julie was intended to be more merchandise to be sold and such but Hoyt's deranged daughter still flipped out when seeing Julie, convinced Hoyt to let the girl be adopted, the Pink Room shit happens, etc. So Roland and Hays, like Marty and Rust, zero in on something small and specific (finding Julie) whilst only scratching the surface of something much bigger and darker, and saving Julie is their small win and contribution to good in the world. The way season 3 played out with it all being a misunderstanding and no more sinister stuff at work left bit of a bitter taste in my mouth.
Also, I know people are probably sick and tired of hearing about frickign Euphoria but they had a very small bit in season 2 about trafficking and it was unsettling, so it can work in place of a murder cult.
>Also, I know people are probably sick and tired of hearing about frickign Euphoria but they had a very small bit in season 2 about trafficking and it was unsettling, so it can work in place of a murder cult.
i really like how dark this show can get (for teen drama shows standards)
didn't had enough preparation to polish the season
Season 4 will be kino. Return of the spirals and Jodie foster
Ill be teasing again they wont do cosmic horror onmybtease it for ratings. The showrunner is pissed that no one liked teh seasons without cosmic horror hints in it.
The new writer for the show is a huge Lovecraft fan
am i just supposed to guess what tv show or movie you're talking you stupid fricking homosexual?
Have you considered that if you don't immediately recognize the picture then you can't contribute to the conversation and gain nothing out of reading the thread
The entire board isn't customized to serve and entertain you you egocentric homosexual,
I have watched this show all the way through at least 50 times the past few years. It resonates with me on a deep level since I'm from the area it's set. There are so many little esoteric Easter eggs and gags. I find new shit everytime. Anyone who says it all meant or led to nothing is a brainlet
I feel you anon, I have probably watched the first season about 10 times. A TV show has never quite grabbed me like this has.
That ending is so fricking cringe kek
t. Gripped by post irony. That post is true sincerity. Something that has long since escaped this place.
Oh have a nice day homosexual. Larping as rust while watching true detective as a grown man, and then posting about it in the hopes that you'll get acknowledged by your internet "frens" isn't sincere, it's insecure, attention-starved, reddit homosexualry of the highest order. Miserable homosexual millennial trash. It's a good thing your people are dying out.
t. insincere
Attention starved fatass sat with the thread open in a tab for over half an hour in the hopes that he could get a reddit moment where he makes a stand against le insincerity. Actually kys larper.
True Detective is easily one of the best shows ever made but that homosexual writes like the biggest redditor in existence
The setting of Louisana is also very important. Normally I do cringe at the whole "The setting... is ALSO A CHARACTER!" shit but TD season 1 would not hit as well were it set in Arizona or Maine. Louisana, to a foreigner in Bongland, was both comfy and a shithole, warm, exciting, and mysterious. Doubt it's a coincidence that the setting was the most felt in the same state that Pizzaman grew up in
>even Maggie was a smokeshow
>even
she was the hottest of them, fricking idiot
was rustin the accidental killer of his daughter?
It's kinda implied but no one can tell for sure
Yes
She triked in the driveway, he says "one day I get in the car..." or something and trails off
The bit about the house being on a bend in the road isn't to say random traffic got her but to imply that he wasn't impaired by drugs or anything but rather just distracted
Shit,man I don't even think am a
past 10,the first time I watched it I was the closest to death due to pneumonia, spitting blood and waking up feeling like am drowning, didn't understood a thing
https://voca.ro/1oJWf5uANixP
MARTY!
FROM THE DUSTY MESA
Why the frick did they title it True Detectives
What a dry ass name
correct, when it aired, i heard all this praise and i thought the critics were just overrating another police procedural type of show
BRAVO PIZZICATO
This guy legit just read Ligotti and an Alan Moore comic and said I'm gonna make a tv show out of this.
Why did everyone shit on his performance so much??He was easily my favorite character and the only argument I hear is "he isn't suited for these type of roles because am used to his comedy roles",IMO he should be playing anything but comedic roles
>I wanna watch your lights go out...
fricking kino
Vince Vaughn won me over as an actor but I'd sit on him in S2 mostly cause of the writing and plot not his performance. I like velcoros side much more, and the gay cop is based too. That's how you make a man's sexuality plot relevant in a cool way
s1 ending was disappointing but s3 was slap in the face, Pizzolatto is a homosexual.
Also just checked and s1 was released in 2014 almost 9 years ago, fkn kill me
Did you guys find the last 3 episodes underwhelming? The first 5 episodes were kino of the highest order but then it devolved into family drama and the fat hillbilly frick being the killer was a bit of a letdown.
>and the fat hillbilly frick being the killer was a bit of a letdown.
This works when you take into consideration Marty's "We got our guy" line. Childress was their guy and he was a backwood maniac but it in no way diminishes the truly sick nature of the mainline cult.
As for the last 3 or 2 episodes as a whole, see it from a Prologue, Rising Action, Falling Action, and Epilogue perspective (that comparison made me appreciate Babylon 5 more).
I don't think the writers had the balls to follow the thread to the upper echelons and get Kubricked. They had to sort of let it fall apart and become more backwoods.
>they didn't have the balls
moron rust and Marty don't have access to high society.
the show peaked here and went downhill after
I do occassionally wonder how much better the finale would have hit were the actors for Childress and LeDoux swapped around.
Why would that be better? Ledoux was too obvious of a methheadnutjob
You are correct, although, I think them actually raiding the base should be included.
I liked the actor so much that I loved him being revealed as killer. His voice over in the finale was amazing
>I will rape all the daughters and sons of man
I'm paraphrasing
>They say beer is always at the beer store...hmmm *siiiiiiiiip*
Something about satanic pedo cults is just so fricking kino
Pizzolatto is a genius
Expectations for Season 4?
subzero
>Are we brothers, Rusty?
Great location terrible casting with that negress. I like the research station disappearance but you can already guess how it'll play out.
>turns out they were doing some weird shit out there and a few killed the others before being stranded in a frozen cave or something
How is it gonna have all the talking to locals part that TD excels with?
>jeez i'm goin crazy out there at the lake
Yes. For such kino, there were some huge, terrible holes in the plot. And that part was absolute shit.
list all the plot holes
The song that plays in the biker bar "A History of Bad Men" by Melvins came out in 2006 when the scene takes place in 1995. Checkmate.
That's got nothing to do with the plot
The most important plot hole is the 7 foot tall meth demon wearing a my little pony towel featuring twilight sparkle who didn't exist until 2012. I mean come on am I right? I hope someone got fired for that blunder.
What is detective work like IRL?
Like being a jaded butthole who uses emotional manipulation to try to force confessions from someone who may or may not have actually done the crime because you just want to close the case and go home.
my grandpa was a detective he said most cases have stupid amounts of evidence because they're not smart tv show serial killers theyre morons who do shit in front of witnesses/camera or tell all their frends.
where is his ear protection?
Isn't the spiral real life pedo symbolism