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Nah. You are a colossal homosexual :^)
the writing is on the wall moron, Star wars is done for and Avatar is the clear succesor
2,9 and 2,3 bill dollars respectivelly
Who's scared to admit it? What else would there be? Tom Cruise movies? Dune maybe? Defnitely not Marvel
Nobody cares about avatar or any of the movies you listed
3rd highest box office of all time last year
I have never in my life met a person who has seen Avatar. At least with Star Wars I know it exists. Avatar is like a made-up meme movie that people online pretend is real, like that one about anvils.
You don't leave your basement
Actually they did see it they just don't remember seeing it. That's what happens, probably happened to you too. If you watched it now you'd probably be like 'what the frick i know this'
This. It's how they're able to sell so many tickets. People instantly forget it when they walk out so they just turn 360° and watch it again.
Everybody saw Avatar in the cinema because the 3D was new technology. It was going to save ticket sales. Then the movie sucked and 3D TVs were released and people got bored of 3D and eventually only ghosts saw Avatar 2.
Ghosts still pay full ticket prices, apparently.
>3D was new technology
No it wasn’t, Avatar is just one of a very small number of movies that was actually shot for 3D abs hence looks good in 3D, most 3D films (and they’ve been around for decades) look like shit
>the movie sucked
It’s above average in quality, even the predictable is well paced and effective, the cinematography and direction are both good, the performances are all middling to good except for worthington who’s stiffness is appropriate for a former marine
>and 3D TVs were released and people got bored of 3D and eventually only ghosts saw Avatar 2.
Avatar 2 was the third highest grossing movie ever and it came out in a post-covid cinema landscape
>predictable
Predictable story
Avatar is an absolute slog. Even thinking about the possibility of sitting through it again makes me nauseous. It's a great case study for how to make a movie that does everything technically correct without doing anything right.
>It's a great case study for how to make a movie that does everything technically correct without doing anything right.
This is a platitudinous statement that offers no meaningful critique on the movie, it’s more of the same midwit spew received opinions that have surrounded the movie for years because the people who resent its success don’t actually know how to analyse anything
Avatards and their dirty slippery argumentative routines. Anyone curious should have a good old argument with these guys it's edifying. It goes deeper than the post i replied to and tomorrow the argument never happened and it's back at the top.
You didn’t make any actual points, just non-arguments.
What does it not do right? What about the movie’s structure is “wrong”? How is the direction or cinematography bad? Is there anything wrong with the sound? What’s wrong with the plotting of the movie? Are any character motivations inconsistent?
Or do you not actually have any substantive criticisms? And don’t just say “the dialogue is cliche” because that’s true but is not enough to support the negative assessment you gave.
I wasn't arguing i and i won't, i did enough of that when the movie released. Whoever's left in the room at the end of the talk wins the room so you got it. Order a throne for yourself and send me the bill. You can reply now if you want to feel good or ignore my post.
>slippery argumentation is trying to engage in an actual discussion
This is proof that anti-avatar posters are mentally ill and someone became offended by this movie rather than actually disliking the movie making
Avatar is better than all but two Star Wars movies
I know people who saw it. They just didn’t care about it.
>I have never in my life met a person who has seen Avatar.
Anecdotal evidence. A logical fallacy.
HOW MANY TIMES DO HAVE TO SAY IT, CHUD
ZERO
CULTURAL
IMPACT
What cultural impact does Star Wars have now?
when star wars was relevant it was insane. even normies know what a light saber is.
Oh I'm not denying that. But now? It's a shell of its former self. Star Wars films aren't an event and none of the characters, stories or settings have any cultural relevance.
Ask anyone if they recognize Darth Vader, and they'll say yes. Then ask them if they recognize literally anything from Avatar, a quote, a character, an actor even, and you'll understand how moronic you sound.
zhhhuuum, szzooof, pyong pyong pyong
It’s still better known by the average person than avatar let’s be honest everyone knows what a lightsaber is
lots more than avatar, even if it's only residual influence left over from it's glory days. And we should be in the middle of prime Avatar mania right now, with the sequel having been such a money maker just recently. outside of this board I haven't even heard anyone mention Avatar in the last ten years, and I have little kids.
>hurr how does inflation work
And yet the first avatar is still above avengers endgame
and yet I have never seen it
Oh no, stop the presses.
I can admit that the landscape of cinema right now is garbage, so James wins by default.
Just like 2009 when the first Avatar came out.
Jims wins arent handed to him. His movies are masterpieces
The thing is you haven't met any people to even get a chance to know if they have seen avatar
the cope is becomig pathetic
Avatar is a technical masterpiece.. Full of render.
> Tom Cruise movies
Boomer shit
>dune
Boomer/boring shit
>MCU
Dead shit
True
Why does there have to be an answer? Why can't the answer be nothing?
>What else would there be?
anime if it got theatrical release
Avatar, Tom Cruise, and Dune are the only reasons I will visit a cinema in the 2020s.
I I think that a significant segment of the people who like avatar and hence are responsible for its financial success are people who don’t spend lots of time with movies and instead have other primary interests. This is partially projection from my own perspective. I almost never go to the movie theatre I almost never watch new movies mostly some old favourites and And for them I don’t watch them that often, I spend a lot more of my free time playing vidya and reading books than watching movies, prior to avatar 2 the last movie I saw in the theatres was Dune, over a year prior. I think the people that watch avatar only go to the movie theatres when there’s something they really want to see that really appeals to a movie theatre sensibility basically something as bombastic as capeshit but with some actual soul, and not needing to see 15 other movies to enjoy it
Yeah the Tom cruise movies also fall into this category
>durr it moby-dick cos it about whales
Moby-Dick is about the relationship between man and God/reality as defined by man’s limited perspective through the vein of whaling because it’s something the author knew well, it’s not about environmental exploitation.
Star Wars is just The Hidden Fortress but set in space with Moebius’ visual aesthetic
Midwitticisms can reduce any work of art to a summation of related tropes
You don’t honestly think that Pocahontas is the first story to have that structure, do you?
>Star Wars is just The Hidden Fortress but set in space with Moebius’ visual aesthetic
Star Wars is barely the Hidden Fortress. Apart from the initial sequence with R2 and C3P0 wandering the desert there's nothing linking the movies. Even the "sneak a princess through enemy territory" aspect is a completely different context and execution.
My point was that it’s easy to make reductive criticisms of narrative stories that are extremely superficial when there’s either some influence or some level of universality in the story telling. Not that Star Wars actually is just Hidden Fortress, but calling it hidden fortress in space is the same as calling avatar Pocahontas in space
The Avatar movies occupy a very weird space in pop culture. Everyone knows the imagery from them but nobody can name a single character or recite a single scene. It's hard to explain why but I think this anon might be on the mark. Sort of like the Bond movies, Avatar is basically an institution in and of itself. It has both die hard fans who know everything about it, but also its generic characters and plot appeal to casual moviegoers who watch it and then don't ever talk about it simply because there's not actually much to think about, hence the lack of impact on movie discourse when compared to dumber fare like Marvel, or more highbrow stuff.
while star wars turned into garbage, avatar started out as garbage and stayed there, so it's neither of them
The sequel confirmed James is a shallow and shortsighted filmmaker. The original plot was Pocahontas, and the Sequel is Pocahontas meets moby dick. This trash will not be remembered.
Ironic since your criticism is both shallow and short sighted. Typical moronic chud describing themselves.
ad hominem and seething
>and the Sequel is Pocahontas meets moby dick.
It's unironically Titanic 2
>very hectic
Just copy and paste the plot and animals with a new coat of paint. It's like those lazy open world devs. How hard can that be?
star wars yes
I had that movie completely free (pirated) and in HD and I still couldn't go beyond the first 20 minutes. It was so atrociously BORING and cliché and predictable my fricking God it's utter shit. And it was 3 hours long. And they're planning more of them??
thats on you for having shit taste
you are right, its way beyond star wars league
will never care
true statement
it isnt. It was built over 13 years by world governments and armchair critics
lol
lmao even
you are laughing now, but ou are gonna cry when avatar 3 will hit top 10 again
lets be bold and say the og trilogy too
I accept it. The mech tech in Avatar blows the SW toys away. I guess I was a little bias when I typed it because I grew up with Clone Wars and KOTOR kek. James Cameron know tech like no other.
I lasted for an hour, after that I needed a brake. Since I hate not finishing any media, I watched rest later.
It had few interesting scenes, but overall the movie is your typical hollyisraelite slop - boring, sterile and cliché as frick.
as a movie it just has no SOVL at all
this is a movie you watch in IMAX, not on your shitty 24 inch monitor
>trust me stretching the shit to be HUGE makes it BETTER
i holds up everywhere
>this is a movie you watch in IMAX, not on your shitty 24 inch monitor
Yeah but then they'd get my money and that's not gonna happen
It makes your criticism of the movie weak, it's akin to saying that La La Land is an awful movie to watch with airplane earbuds.
Ferngully: CGI edition isn't even part of the cultural zeitgeist. It's pathetic to even consider it in the same league of impact as Star Wars.
Never watched the first Avatar, never watched the second Avatar, will never watch the third.
I will never respect Jim Cameron for anything more than I do for making a Siggy into a 14 year old blue alien
pure S E X O O
It is just me or avatar hate isn't organic?
it isn't, organic really; in that it's the only media vaguely against the technohomosexual zeitgeist; despite it being conceived by a leftoid moron.
The organic memetics are when we point out the traditional/primitive themes of community/gender roles/patriarchy etc.
Mostly Marveltards who are jealous that it has so much industry, critical and box office success while nobody takes their capeshit seriously. They can't appreciate the simplicity. It always makes me think of that Ebert quote, and I'm glad Avatar doesn't have a vocally cringey fanbase like Star Wars/MCU.
>Extreme fandom may serve as a security blanket for the socially inept, who use its extreme structure as a substitute for social skills. If you are Luke Skywalker and she is Princess Leia, you already know what to say to each other, which is so much safer than having to ad-lib it. Your fannish obsession is your beard. If you know absolutely all the trivia about your cubbyhole of pop culture, it saves you from having to know anything about anything else. That's why it's excruciatingly boring to talk to such people: They're always asking you questions they know the answer to.
>They can't appreciate the simplicity.
Fake avatard spotted
There's a difference between
>Simple archetypes
and
>Muh lore
No Avatar fan is jerking themselves off about Captain Megagay and how he might appear in Galactic Frickbuddies Chapter 7 in order to set up the Grand Fisting Saga.
>Ebert
Sorry, but pedo apologist opinions don't count.
>pedo apologist
wat
>They can't appreciate the simplicity.
Took the words right out of my mouth
You're just delusional. Avatar 1 was an impressive tech demo, but beyond that it was the most shallow and formulaic mass appeal movie you could think of. I'm assuming the sequel is just more of the same. The hate comes from midwits making it as successful as it is and pretending there's any substance. I also hate the sw sequels and marvel slop for mostly the same reason - throwing that out there before you let your delusions drag you further from reality.
Your post is literally a prompt result
>good visuals bad story
>mass appeal
>midwit
>never mentions anything from the contents of the film itself
Also bonus for not watching one of the movies, assuming you even saw the first one
There is no content. Was it the overacting bad guy wanting unobtainium , the flat characters or the 1 hour demo of cgi plants and animals that should have impressed me? It's a bit bizarre to think that a person who doesn't like a movie you do can only be lying. Have fun in your own world I guess, I was simply giving you some feedback from reality. Also, I have no intention on watching 2 much in the same way I know the last season of The Mandalorioan is shit without watching all the episodes.
Midwits hate Avatar
thats how i feel about the "fans"
It's the most successful movie of all time. Of course it's gonna attract midwit haters who can't stand to see its success.
>Avatar haters
Is it just me or avatar isn't organic?
Avatar is Cameron's singular vision, that shit literally came to him in a dream. It doesn't get any more organic than that
Must have been after he watched Dances With Wolves
He had this dream when he was 19
Must have been after he read Pocahontas
>story about man from civilisation who learns the ways of and integrates with the “savages” who despite their technological inferiority have a fulfilling way of life
This is a very old story and dances with wolves is not even the first high profile movie about it. Maybe Avatar is just A Man called Horse as well, maybe it’s Typee by Herman Melville, maybe it’s William Adams integrating into Japanese culture
Who wants to watch either of those when you can watch the same premise told with aliens and terminators by the guy who directed "Aliens" and "The Terminator"
masterful bait
>It is just me or avatar hate isn't organic?
It's people hating on Avatar for pathetic reasons because their favorite IP isn't as popular and successful.
How is that unbelievable? Avatar is the biggest movie ever made.
Many people dont belive it
true, never be afraid to speak the truth
I'm not afraid to admit it.
Avatar's greatness is on a level Star Wars never came close too.
Although Star Wars was probably a better movie for selling toys, but that's all they've got now that the nostalgia farts have subsided.
>Although Star Wars was probably a better movie for selling toys
this is what they mean by "cultural impact"
It's completely true. It's even found an interestingly different way to approach space fantasy. In that all of this is sci-fi based on real science (even Eywa) and used to recreate fantasy imagery (Ikran = Dragons, Recom = Demons, Fairy wing jellyfish and immaculate conception).
I was whatever on Avatar for a long time but didn't like how smarmy Marvelgays ragged on it. I also love Cameron so I caught the re-release last year and really liked it. Then caught Way of the Water and loved it.
>Dragons
>Demons
>Jellyfish
>Immaculate conception
>Fantasy
Do I have news for you, anon.
Christgay?
Avatar has better value but homosexuals are blinded by Marvel writing and muh iconic status to see the art of it. It even has better art direction than entirety of SW besides the original trilogy.
if spider wasn't in A2 or at the very least put some fricking pants on and stopped acting like such a gay it would have been better. it also just felt kinda droll and samey after the first movie had such a massive, climactic series of events and character development. 7.5/10
>if spider wasn't in A2 or at the very least put some fricking pants on and stopped acting like such a gay it would have been better.
Let me guess
He should've not saved his father
or he should've become a zogbot even after they almost tortured him to death
no, what? the tarzan thing was just shitty and weird. i didn't need to see his fricking ass hanging out the whole movie, the dreads were gay, he overstayed his welcome running alongside a full bunch of CGI characters, and he was just a poor actor and a poor casting. him hissing was also supreme cringe as well. no need to make him full on "wolf child." it was impossible to take him seriously and the name spider wasn't working for me too. bad all around. his motivations were serviceable and his actions were fair, he was just annoying and gay, simple as.
also while i'm at it. the two sons were an annoying and cheap addition just like spider himself was a MAJOR, out of left field contrivance. adding two new characters in who are the sons of the MC just to try and kill one of them off for shock in the SAME MOVIE is a weak as frick move writing-wise... and the "he actually had an unknown son that will break the shell around his heart" is parody-of-shakespeare level melodramatic. i think it was a good movie but it was NOT without major flaw
>avatar as a definitive space opera
As a sci fi fan who has watched cringeload of sci fi related stuff since my teen years - yet i havent watched avatar and i have no desire to do so. Watched a trailer once and it literally seemed to be some communist trehugger woke propaganda videogame with some good graphics. I honestly did not detect an ounce of creativity in the trailer, and none of my guy workmates or friends ever said something along the lines "avatar was so cool, story was awesome, characters great, girls were so hot, it was so funny you should see it etc etc", in fact avatar has never even been brought up at all in our discussions.
So today, ill rewatch old favorite instead- Invasion Earth (1998) miniseries, witch is as far from cartoongraphics and happy endings as it gets.
>it literally seemed to be some communist trehugger woke propaganda videogame with some good graphics.
it was and is.
this still places it far ahead all other modern mass market media in terms of life-affirmation. You either have gender-roles/patriarchy/anprim commie shit or you have literally satanic "cut your penis off little boys" style commie shit
Hate that the actress for Claudia dropped out of Interview with the vampire to be in this. They replaced her with a thirty-something woman that looks nothing like her.
I've never seen Avatar movies. They looked very shallow and stupid.
>Cinemaphile tourists don't recognize abatap
they don't deserve you
Look at the box office for the movies, 25/75 domestic-international split. It's pretty successful in the West but it's a turd world phenomenon
James Cameron is such a great film-maker~
looks like James Cameron in drag
Don't forget how she could have saved him in the end but didn't just to watch him die.
I get older.
And I hate women more.
Post the kino visuals collage displaying the color palate.
Putridly awful. Everything really. I may be de depressed, I don't know. I do know this is dreadful, this...movie of yours.
Bro I ain't watching this gayass hippie bullshit
star wars is over the original and prequels are done thats it.
Eh not really
it's not even a space opera because it all takes place on a single continent
and the big bad and his band of literally whos from the first movie being revived and the explanation is the most moronic thing I've ever seen
Avatargays...i kneel. You were the sci-fi kino we needed all along.
How in the frick are Na'vi supposed to win?
>air (tree) people on board
>water people on board
>fire people on board next
>probably some sort of subterranean earth people on board after
>the end of the earth na'vi movie will reveal that there is some fated, prophesied figure that will unite all na'vi against a foretold destroyer race from the stars
>that will be jake soolie or one of his zoomer children, who will gather the people
>jake's daughter voiced by a woman nearly old enough to be a great-grandmother will be his shaman lady right hand, who will awake eywa and the animals/plants
>quaritch will obviously have a change of heart and cowtow his gang of na'vi-human killers to their side, probably also flipping the loyalty of some human soldiers
>these 3 elements of authority will rise against the humans
>the last movie will be hopefully one massive fricking global war
>they will take humanity off the planet once and for all and the humans simply won't have the resources or time to come back again
>or they'll go the homosexual one-love route and find a place for humanity to live in harmony on the planet
>the end
I get that Disney sucks and all that, but this meme about Avatar not being the same kind of crowd-pleasing blockbuster CGI porn is getting old.
>Hate avatar 1
>Love avatar 2
What's wrong with me?
You're correct
I didn't like a1 but a2 was an exceptional experience
Wrong. It wasn’t Avatar. Marvel movies replaced Star Wars just no one wants to admit it.
It’s all horseshit
Why so apathetic, kitty?
It’s all horseshit
People just want to see humans do more cool industrial shit. No one gives a frick about the blue cats or their environment beyond a few weirdos who want to frick them.
It was boring they spent like an hour of the movie riding on whales and dodging falling rocks in the ocean, that’s an exciting cinematic event? These events were so predictable it wasn’t even entertaining to sit through once, it’s just nice CGI okay great how about write a better story?
>still unbelievable to me how the AVATAR sequels have fully replaced Star Wars as the definitive space opera, where each future films feels like the rarest and most special of big-scale cinematic events.
Ah, Excuse the frick out of me but Avatar 2 sucked dick and didn't hold a fricking flaming fart to the beauty and originality Avatar 1 held and had.
Twitter...I mean "X" is full of these fake ass, puddle deep buttholes who make everything new seem like the latest and greatest by shitting on classics. frick this guy's X account and shitty zoomer opinion. Jesus reading that pissed me off,
>Avatar 2 is great and Avatar 3 seems like it's going to be even greater
frick the frick off.
bullshit take
avatar from the start was only good because it was bigger cgi than anyone ever saw, otherwise the story was weak and childish and ripped from pocahontas..
At least starwars was well story driven for at least the origional trilogy
>the story was weak and childish and ripped from pocahontas
Excuse me, but where in Pocahontas was there;
- Interstellar Travel
- Aliens (and land stealing, people raping Europeans don't count although they technically were the first illegal aliens)
- Consciousness swapping and body hoping
- High grade technology
I mean I get you TRIED to be funny, but huge fricking fail.
intellectual belligerence
>technically were the first illegal aliens
are you implying there were laws about entry the natives had?
I think I'll get around to actually watching my blu-ray soon. Watched in the theater four times and twice online with tsmukan (that was really fricking cool tbh, booked my whole day around those two days, thanks streaming anon), been happy to leave it there for a while. But the itch to go again has been latent in the past few months. PBU Jimbo, the December theatrical date for The Abyss will make a lot more sense now (the climax was a clear re-hash of the drowning theme present both in Abyss and Titanic).
Open task: acquire a hard-copy sequel soundtrack CD if if exists. I really worry about the elimination of hard copy media as this thing goes on.
Idea: several/most principal characters are now problematized in various and interesting ways, part-human, -part-Na'vi, the story's central tension.
wtf is this shit? lol not reading this text file.
stringing words together doesn't communicate one's ideas and thoughts clearly if you're just making a word salad.
so again, please tell me how Pocahontas is better than Avatar 1? or you're going to pussy out and just try and make intelligent sounding disses?
Use your brain for more than a hat rack you low iq b***h.
your digits are telling of your intent
>I think I'll get around to actually watching my blu-ray soon.
4K/Bluray/Digital Collector's Versions come out 12/15/23.
>Open task: acquire a hard-copy sequel soundtrack CD if if exists.
Yeah I haven't ever seen that. I broke down and bought the digital and just burned a CD.
>4K/Bluray/Digital Collector's Versions
Wow now I gotta buy them again.
>Wow now I gotta buy them again.
Yep, same. I don't feel one hint of remorse for giving Avatar money. Plus the special features on the collector's editions are great.
Are there really unironic sequel apologists in this thread?
Nobody ever talks about these movies. It's unbelievable. Half of the planet went to see them and you would never even know.
Much prefer that to the obsessive freaks. Comfy sci-fi kino and no autistic screeching fanbases? Based.
I don't care about Avatar
I only saw scenes with catgirl Siggy
That just shows I am completely detached from modern AAA blockbuster movies. I have zero interest towards any of it.
Post more Tuk.
what if Tuk had a cellphone and zero adult oversight on her account?
Neytiri would never allow her children to have phones
too late, she's been S K Y P E O P L ED
Loak would be such a fricking coomer if he had a phone
true
What is she? An Amish?
>Y'all
*Pulls down pants*
*Places anus right in your face*
*Let's rip the longest, loundest, wettest fart*
>dude, you are chud for defending avatar
>you dislike avatar? typical chud
Did it become another meaningless insult with no context whatsoever? Like homosexual and trannie?
shut the frick up you chudding nitpicker, I hope you shoot up a school
The way Avatar is one of the highest grossing movies of all time is the way Honor of Kings is one of the highest grossing games of all time. Literally no cultural impact outside of base appeal. No one will ever reference Avatar as an influence for something they've made, which Star Wars has done in spades.
I hate humans so much it's unreal
space?
What the frick is a space opera. You cant hear sound in space, idiots.
Thanks to all the avatar haters for outing yourselves as total morons
>over two years until we get to see her again
>it'll probably get delayed again in the meantime
heres hoping
I look forward to getting old and faded enough that just seeing moving pictures is a thrill for me, and then i'll be able to watch these and have a good time. when i'm like 80 or so
Yeah I have to admit that
>Star Wars suck as a space opera due to their weak worldbuilding foundations
>The only good Star Wars movie is Empire strikes back. The rest are mid to shit.
>Disney raped Stars Wars and its future by buying the IP and giving it to hacks to make movies out of it
>Kids just dont buy toys anymore; they'd rather post cringe on tik tok or play fortnite
Meanwhile Avatar movies
>Have an insanely well thought world building
>Always reaching new grounds with their cgi
>Wholesome messages that people have missed for a long time
>A non stop spectacle
>The only IP that still cares about 3d
It really isnt that hard to see why Avatar keeps winning and why Star Wars is in perpetual downfall
real
He's right in a sense but Avatar and Star Wars are too dissimilar to speak of an actual replacement.
Star Wars is a dead franchise.
Avatar is a Chinese franchise.
Neither are deserving of any sort of praise.
This is probably true, tbh. Star Wars was always mediocre formularic slop though, just like Avatar is. Current day star wars is utterly irrelevant though.
Lyran enjoyers keep winnin!!!!
Why haven't the Avatar movies produced any memes?
what are you talking about
That's an Apu meme
LMAO who made this?
i wish i knew
NANC
his is way better than the slop we got lol. Now I want proper warrior cats kino
THERE ARE
WRONG
Because they couldn't be more bland and boring.
see
this meme gets posted in every avatar thread
Everybody coming to the same conclusion independently is not a meme
>independently
All of you are bots made in the same factory
they have, that picture of the na'vi in the sunglasses was everywhere last year
Brown Zoe sexo
>special
these movies sell well but they have zero cultural impact it's certainly not any sort of special event
Avatar movies are forgotten like marvel movies, the original six Star Wars movies are remembered by everyone and discussed on a daily basis
nobody actually knows what happened in them
if avatar movies were half their length they would be awesome
I fell asleep in the middle of avatar 2
I never fall asleep in front of a movie...
liar
you guys have been praying right?
everyday
The original avatar was amazing for reasons the audience will not admit.
The main female leads are a generic wine aunt girl boss and a u go grl helicopter pilot. There's your appeal to women.
For cucks, there is the dork scientist.
Then you get to the overall main character. He is beaten and unappreciated by his own people. He went to war for them, and when he got fricked up and couldn't walk, they said 'like, I know we said we'd take care of you but you seem really creepy right now, have fun surviving in the streets lol'.
Then he goes to this alien planet and acts like a violent psychopath, and instead of hatred, the elder says 'we will see if your illness can be cured'. The liberals watching interpret this as tree hugging, bur she is actually referring to his need to chase after people who only see him as something to be used.
This tribe of savages gives him cultural inclusion, respect and ultimately, genetic enfranchisement (even if I still have problems with tsutey getting cucked).
He tries to keep both the old and the new world, but the old burns the new and locks him up. And then something amazing happens: Jake turns on them. James Cameron actually managed to pass through hollywood a story about a white man revolting against an abusive matriarchal anarcho capitalist/communist system. And every white dude watching it, next to the shrikes they paypig or orbit for, understood: they'd do the same fricking thing.
The movie appeals to everyone. I haven't seen the sequel but if you remove all the other nonsense guys are just going to continue to indulge in their new little house on the prairie with blue nerve tail pussy fantasy cameron has constructed for them.
No modern guy can relate to an assassin droid or some ancient warrior of mandalor, the characters may as well be gay, men have penises and relate to characters who also act like they have penises.
I downloaded and never bothered watching the second one - I sure as frick ain't watching the third.
we know you watched it and loved it no need to lie
these are fricking animated movies. i don't see any real filmmaking in there
performance capture moron
Another avatar movie niceeeezzzzzzz
Fans already know they greenlight 5 of these films.
I'm looking forward to the new game too
I went to the kinoplex to watch both of them. I don't remember what happened. They're not bad, just throwaway. They have no cultural impact or longevity.
zzzzzzz
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>Yall
troony
Who even watches this garbage, the first movie was ok, just ok.
ME
same
I still don't know if they lied about the stats or not because I've never heard anyone talking about the newest avatar
Avatar is weird
it makes billions, but then it vanishes entirely between films
no
t. Hasn't stood in line for 2 hours in Pandora at Animal Kingdom
>people care about the coat of paint and pixels on a theme park ride
Yes, they do
I watched Avatar 2 every day for like a month since I got a hold of it. several times with the boys while we memed. Great times.
jealous
I want Ella as a na'vi
Can't AI do that?
star wars has fallen out of the cultural zeitgeist, but it hasn't been replaced with avatar.
no one cares about the movies, except for the 2 hours they spent watching it.
it is a movie with no mental staying power.
wrong
one person might think he's right just because no one talks about avatar in public, there are no references to it in outside media, it's not used as an analogy in discourse, and there isn't any successful merchandise
but he's actually wrong
yes, he is
>not just generating your own Avatar movie
that looks like trash, how can AI frick up a CGI character?
James Cameron is the greatest of all time
Tonowario
don't care
didn't watch
>gay likes way of water
Maybe it’s the navi teen boys, I remember there were anons posting about them in the generals when the movie came out
Understandable, Jake and Lo'ak are hot as frick.
>make good movies
>people go to see them
>make bad movies
>people don’t go to see them
Wow what a revelation
>make bland and soulless remakes
>people go to see them
Doesn't work quite the way you think.
Post memes
Avatar? Is that a movie?
There was an Avatar 2?
It really hasn’t “fully replaced” it. Kids aren’t into avatar. I don’t see avatar action figures and lego sets being sold in stores, nor any Avatar video games. There are zero references to it in other media, whereas the 80s and 90s were full of “I am your father” jokes and Mel Brooks made an entire feature-length parody of Star Wars called Spaceballs. It’s vaguely the same genre but that’s it, Avatar barely makes a mark on the culture because it’s basically just unimaginative slop.
There are multiple avatar action figures, Lego sets and video games. The avatar region of Disneyland has always the most visitors and wait times, so nothing you said was right
They say these movies do well in the theaters though I have never met a single person who’s seen these movies.
It’s all money laundering isn’t it?
Cope. I saw it 5 times and it was always packed with people. Even a late night showing in April had a ton of people
yes anon. studios spent hundreds of millions on movies only to fake their success so the can own the Cinemaphile chuds
I only see Avatar talked about on this shit-hole of a board, so I know that shit isn't true.
This is probably the only place that talks about it
Why are people so obsessed with the idea that no one likes avatar? What about avatar causes this vitriol, its not even intensely political or too subtle (apparently way too subtle). How many movies and billies will make you stop churning out inane takes like no cultural impact, no funko pops, no memes, tech demo, akshually it's woke, akshually it's racist, akshually the billies aren't real and it's a psyop
>no one likes Avatar
>no, Disney isn’t bombing because it’s woke
>Marvels only bombed because of super hero fatigue
all the same cope
What happened with that Avatar Discord created by anons, not the official one? It was constantly mentioned, with invites posted regularly in every thread.They suddenly disappeared, and with them came the disappearance of the primary source of Avatar memes
It's still alive.
i will die on the hill that spider's name should have been sparrow and his hair should have been long and wavy instead of dry and Black persony dreads. he also should have had his natural hair color instead of the blond
Would Neyney be ok with Jake taking concubines?
Toruk Makto must repopulate the Na'vi
Yes and that's hot, but breeding recom women will only create mutts
Call me a mutt again, go on, do it
It's just the same 5 or so gays talking to each other, nothing avatar related happening there
>t. in it but never interact
Many such cases!
That’s spot-on. I don’t give a single frick about Star Wars anymore.
I'm still amazed that the fricking Avatar sequel that spent decades in development hell ended up being a massive success with more sequels in the making while Star Wars and Marvel have both became box office failures
never seen either avatar and never will. I want my R rated Jim back and until that happens I'm not watching his glorified childrens films.
That Cameron is retired.
They're great for themepark style rides, even i wouldn't deny it, don't watch them on your PC screen.
I love me some Avatar
I just watched the Way of Water the other night and it was very moronic.
>somehow Quaritch returned
>he thinks he is not Quaritch, but still has the desire to take revenge on Jake Sully
>movie takes place in and around ocean while characters ride fish, objectively boring and lame setting compared to floating mountains and riding dragons
>navi children who i couldn't tell apart, one died but I didn't know or care which one
>whale juice was the new unobtainium, but only mentioned for a second for no reason
>carmela soprano was there as an unnecessary extra antagonist and did a terrible job in her role
>characters could wear a jellyfish as wings and somehow use that to breathe underwater? Extremely moronic plot point, could have just used respirators that we previously saw Quaritch use in human environment
I'm sure there were many more
wrong and cope
The sea is infinitely cooler than the mountains and forest
Low iq
Avatar is what Cameron wants to do and I can respect that. It's auteur filmmaking with a $400 million budget, and it took him a career of constant box office hits to get to this point. We may never see the like again
Isn't Christopher Nolan's whole schtick that he makes whatever he wants with studio money because of how well Batman did?
Nolan is another director in the same vein, but he doesn't have access to the type of budgets Cameron commands
As someone who saw them for the first time last month, my motivation to see the next avatar is the same as my motivation to see another star wars: 0. Avatar 1 was enjoyable but 2 was just annoying
Good for you. No one gives a shit about your opinion. Go watch the latest marvel movie and frick off.
>You don't like this CGI goyfest!? Go watch a different CGI goyfest!
Nah I'm good.
movies in general suck nowadays
No one cares about Avatard. Star Wars being killed by the Yids at DIS doesn't suddenly make Avatard a better set of movies. It's still the same Avatard
I only watched the first, and it was so forgetable I dont remember any details about it
He's right and I love Avatar. Star Wars is dead to me.
it's incredible on its own that a sci-fi movie is able to get so much traction when the genre is pretty much done for.
>it's incredible on its own that a sci-fi movie is able to get so much traction when the genre is pretty much done for.
It absolutely sucks that hollywood, if they care about sci fi, only wants to do character drama sci fi lite.
They're unwilling to risk anything to do hard sci fi anymore.
exception: possibly rebel moon but we'll see how that goes.
Avatar films are the only movies worth watching more than once in the cinema
everyone loves avatar its an allegory of the evils of white men and their daemonic knowledge (industry)
>everyone loves avatar its an allegory of the evils of white men and their daemonic knowledge (industry)
In reality it's a series about loving and conserving nature.
The funny thing is, the intended audience (white people) already get that. those destroying the rain forests and environment are not white people.
Take Way of Water. White people aren't killing whales. The Japanese are.
> white people aren't destroying nature
lol, lmao even, who the frick is polluting the oceans with trash and oil, who the engines that pollute the skies, who plays the industrial that seek to strip pandora of its resources. None of those things are things white people have been and continue to be doing for the last 3 centuries
>lol, lmao even, who the frick is polluting the oceans with trash and oil,
China. India.
>who plays the industrial that seek to strip pandora of its resources.
Actors.
>None of those things are things white people have been and continue to be doing for the last 3 centuries
If you hate White people so much move to Africa.
Also, Global Warming is a Communist lie.
>not startrek
I wouldn't hate 2 if Cameron did the based thing and let miles kill all of Jake's kids the third time they were captured.
>Why didn't cameron just kill all the main characters that i fricking hate with a passion, thus sinking all future movies
it is a mystery, anon.
The main character is still jake. Him going after miles for vengeance would have been kino. As it stands the kids already sank every I knows chances of seeing the future movies.
>The main character is still jake
With the way the series is going, not with the later movies.
>Him going after miles for vengeance would have been kino.
Because you know better than Cameron, right?
>As it stands the kids already sank every I knows chances of seeing the future movies.
You sound like the dweebs who claimed that Avatar 2 was going to be a flop.
You sound extremely upset. Sorry you don't like to hear the plot devic— I mean characters didn't land.
>You sound extremely upset.
Well like your misinterpretation of Avatar, you've misinterpreted my feelings.
The fact is Avatar 2 is a success without your edgy plot devices
Nah, that's stupid. And I'll trust the guy who regularly makes multiple billies over the dork who whines on Cinemaphile that it isn't exactly like they want
They want to redeem him dumbass, they intentionally didn't have him directly kill anyone
It would be needless cringe edgy shock value shit
And Cameron is very into tragic endings and killing off characters
haven't seen either of em LOL
>haven't seen either of em LOL
Too busy watching 'Gay Cowboys Eating Pudding' were you?
There was so much more plot to swallow, and it didn't take 2 hours to show it, either.
I do not remember a single quote from either movie
I cannot remember the soundtrack even if my life depended on it.
On that basis, Avatar isn't star wars
>I do not remember a single quote from either movie
>I cannot remember the soundtrack even if my life depended on it.
Lay off the weed.
You have some serious brainrot. You should get that checked.
Avatar "fans" will seethe about you poiting out their rollar coaster is a rollar coaster.
there are probably 40 episodes of the simpsons which each had a bigger cultural impact than the avatar series
>MUH POP CULTURE!
avatar was fricking terrible, i got through maybe 40 minutes. obv never watched the second one. it's objectively shite. i don't care what it gets at the big office. Total shite
>didn't even finish the movie
Your opinion means nothing.
why are ESL thirdies so eat up with gayatar?
Thirdies can't the ones buying FOP
*can't be the ones