It's literally one of the most universal agreed upon movies as excellent by all men. Even something like the LOTR, you've got people who don't like fantasy etc.
it's a 8/10 but deniro wearing a gshock and all the men not connecting with women and long pans of la and also the good bad man searching the bad good man makes it a Cinemaphile 10
It really is. It's Mann's masterpiece. But that being said, I think Thief and Collateral may have elements that peak a little higher. But Heat is more consistent and refined.
Agree, the plot is rushed. Common for novel adaptations. It would make for an excellent 6-8 episode series, but these days it would come with a bunch of wokeshit.
>kino
Blackhat has some good elements and moments, but it is not, as a whole, kino. Mann himself admits that the script wasn't ready to go into production. That being said I enjoy all of Mann's movies, with Blackhat being his worst but still having some redeeming qualities.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'll concede that Blackhat is worse, but that's about it.
>"the director NSA isnt moronic enough to answer an email" >IRL NSA is a moron yelling at people on twitter
1 month ago
Anonymous
>>"the director NSA isnt moronic enough to answer an email"
That whole concept and sequence was one of the better things in the movie. The realpolitik of Hemsworth hacking the NSA and Viola Davis looking the other way.
1 month ago
Anonymous
the director's cut improved Blackhat is excellent
1 month ago
Anonymous
No.
Fixing the order of events was good, but the director's cut cuts out a scene between Hemsworth and the asian chick- when the movie needs every second of the footage of them together it can get because that subplot is dangerously underdeveloped even in the theatrical cut.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Their relationship and interactions seemed natural and believable. Mann portrays relationships quite well. Although Ferrari and his wife and mistress weren't interesting. Seemed like rote content we've seen before 1000 times.
Their conversation in the Korean restaurant was great, then after the violent confrontation, it swiftly leads to sex.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You've got that ass backwards buddy. The relationship stuff in Ferrari was far better than Blackhat.
You know what, I just bit into bait. Damn
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The relationship stuff in Ferrari was far better than Blackhat
why so? I don't remember any specifics at this late date.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He's talking about Sarah Gadon and her boyfriend.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I don't remember any specifics at this late date.
you remembered enough to shit on it for being generic though, as if sex after buff man beats up guys is novel
now shoo shoo troll
1 month ago
Anonymous
why so mad? I do remember that I didn't find it interesting. I'd like to hear why Ferrari + wife was in fact, interesting, if you don't mind.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'd prefer that you take some accountability first.
Explain how "buff hunk beats up dudes in front of damsel and that leads to sex" is not cliche.
THEN we can get to the part of the conversation where I say why I liked Ferrari and you call my opinion wrong.
1 month ago
Anonymous
why so mad? I do remember that I didn't find it interesting. I'd like to hear why Ferrari + wife was in fact, interesting, if you don't mind.
Sarah Gadon is the heart and soul of Ferrari.
1 month ago
Anonymous
get the frick out of my thread if you don't like the movie
1 month ago
Anonymous
I like Michael Mann's best film.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It might be cliche, but I don't know that I've seen it that much personally, and certainly not in anything with the context a Mann film. The way they acted, talked to, and looked at each other throughout that sequence felt genuine to me, and the best part of it was the conversation they had at the table, about prison, keeping up with world-class hackers, etc.
I don't claim that's the best part of their interaction either.
I'm a huge Mann fan, so I was a little disappointed in Ferrari. It's very well done and a masterpiece compared to most any current year flick, but racing, his business struggles and his relationship just don't interest me substantively enough, I suppose.
I am genuinely curious what anyone enjoyed about Driver vs. Cruz, though.
1 month ago
Anonymous
meant for
I'd prefer that you take some accountability first.
Explain how "buff hunk beats up dudes in front of damsel and that leads to sex" is not cliche.
THEN we can get to the part of the conversation where I say why I liked Ferrari and you call my opinion wrong.
I misquoted lmao!
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I am genuinely curious what anyone enjoyed about Driver vs. Cruz, though
It might be cliche, but I don't know that I've seen it that much personally, and certainly not in anything with the context a Mann film. The way they acted, talked to, and looked at each other throughout that movie felt genuine to me, and the best part of it were the conversations they had in the movie, about family, keeping up a world-class company, etc.
I don't claim that's the best part of their interaction either.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It might be cliche, but I don't know that I've seen it that much personally, and certainly not in anything with the context a Mann film. The way they acted, talked to, and looked at each other throughout that sequence felt genuine to me, and the best part of it was the conversation they had at the table, about prison, keeping up with world-class hackers, etc.
I don't claim that's the best part of their interaction either.
I'm a huge Mann fan, so I was a little disappointed in Ferrari. It's very well done and a masterpiece compared to most any current year flick, but racing, his business struggles and his relationship just don't interest me substantively enough, I suppose.
I am genuinely curious what anyone enjoyed about Driver vs. Cruz, though.
You're not wrong, it's considerd good because of 10 very specific minutes out of three hours of mediocre to bad. The best part is when Pacino is slamming his fist on the table "GIMME A NAME" and the actor in the background starts breaking character and laughs because it's so stupid. Can't believe they left that in the film unless it was a jab at Pacino.
>The best part is when Pacino is slamming his fist on the table "GIMME A NAME" and the actor in the background starts breaking character and laughs because it's so stupid. Can't believe they left that in the film unless it was a jab at Pacino.
you are a the worst type of stock npc >everything is a le joke and le cringe
Good movie but it always rubs me the wrong way when cops are portrayed as hard-charging, screaming maniacs.
Real cops are sleep deprived boy scouts and blue collar joes. High ranking cops are stoic, quiet and good at politics. Obviously there are exceptions but a screeching Pachino character is ridiculous.
Slick pls.
Collateral clears
heat isnt that good, but collateral sucks donkey dick
Shut the frick up animal
why don't you redditors just stay there?
It's literally one of the most universal agreed upon movies as excellent by all men. Even something like the LOTR, you've got people who don't like fantasy etc.
Pie, anyone?
whats better?
it's a 8/10 but deniro wearing a gshock and all the men not connecting with women and long pans of la and also the good bad man searching the bad good man makes it a Cinemaphile 10
My poor ears.
Anything with Tom Sizemore in is always kino.
Goddamn she looked poundable in that movie. Shooting her was a little excessive.
>me in the blue shirt
gay jogger worship
even good movies are shit. movies are just boring and gay.
This is what russian trolls pretend to believe.
It really is. It's Mann's masterpiece. But that being said, I think Thief and Collateral may have elements that peak a little higher. But Heat is more consistent and refined.
Agree, the plot is rushed. Common for novel adaptations. It would make for an excellent 6-8 episode series, but these days it would come with a bunch of wokeshit.
correct, that'd be Miami Vice, then Collateral/Heat/The Insider at no 2
>that'd be Miami Vice
too abstract for the redditnpc crowd, huh?
I'll concede that Blackhat is worse, but that's about it.
>Blackhat
another kino that's not reddit enough for you, telling
>kino
Blackhat has some good elements and moments, but it is not, as a whole, kino. Mann himself admits that the script wasn't ready to go into production. That being said I enjoy all of Mann's movies, with Blackhat being his worst but still having some redeeming qualities.
>"the director NSA isnt moronic enough to answer an email"
>IRL NSA is a moron yelling at people on twitter
>>"the director NSA isnt moronic enough to answer an email"
That whole concept and sequence was one of the better things in the movie. The realpolitik of Hemsworth hacking the NSA and Viola Davis looking the other way.
the director's cut improved Blackhat is excellent
No.
Fixing the order of events was good, but the director's cut cuts out a scene between Hemsworth and the asian chick- when the movie needs every second of the footage of them together it can get because that subplot is dangerously underdeveloped even in the theatrical cut.
Their relationship and interactions seemed natural and believable. Mann portrays relationships quite well. Although Ferrari and his wife and mistress weren't interesting. Seemed like rote content we've seen before 1000 times.
Their conversation in the Korean restaurant was great, then after the violent confrontation, it swiftly leads to sex.
You've got that ass backwards buddy. The relationship stuff in Ferrari was far better than Blackhat.
You know what, I just bit into bait. Damn
>The relationship stuff in Ferrari was far better than Blackhat
why so? I don't remember any specifics at this late date.
He's talking about Sarah Gadon and her boyfriend.
>I don't remember any specifics at this late date.
you remembered enough to shit on it for being generic though, as if sex after buff man beats up guys is novel
now shoo shoo troll
why so mad? I do remember that I didn't find it interesting. I'd like to hear why Ferrari + wife was in fact, interesting, if you don't mind.
I'd prefer that you take some accountability first.
Explain how "buff hunk beats up dudes in front of damsel and that leads to sex" is not cliche.
THEN we can get to the part of the conversation where I say why I liked Ferrari and you call my opinion wrong.
Sarah Gadon is the heart and soul of Ferrari.
get the frick out of my thread if you don't like the movie
I like Michael Mann's best film.
It might be cliche, but I don't know that I've seen it that much personally, and certainly not in anything with the context a Mann film. The way they acted, talked to, and looked at each other throughout that sequence felt genuine to me, and the best part of it was the conversation they had at the table, about prison, keeping up with world-class hackers, etc.
I don't claim that's the best part of their interaction either.
I'm a huge Mann fan, so I was a little disappointed in Ferrari. It's very well done and a masterpiece compared to most any current year flick, but racing, his business struggles and his relationship just don't interest me substantively enough, I suppose.
I am genuinely curious what anyone enjoyed about Driver vs. Cruz, though.
meant for
I misquoted lmao!
>I am genuinely curious what anyone enjoyed about Driver vs. Cruz, though
It might be cliche, but I don't know that I've seen it that much personally, and certainly not in anything with the context a Mann film. The way they acted, talked to, and looked at each other throughout that movie felt genuine to me, and the best part of it were the conversations they had in the movie, about family, keeping up a world-class company, etc.
I don't claim that's the best part of their interaction either.
For us it's Sarah Gadon
clever, almost funny even! Bravissimo!
Deluded season two gay
You're not wrong, it's considerd good because of 10 very specific minutes out of three hours of mediocre to bad. The best part is when Pacino is slamming his fist on the table "GIMME A NAME" and the actor in the background starts breaking character and laughs because it's so stupid. Can't believe they left that in the film unless it was a jab at Pacino.
>The best part is when Pacino is slamming his fist on the table "GIMME A NAME" and the actor in the background starts breaking character and laughs because it's so stupid. Can't believe they left that in the film unless it was a jab at Pacino.
you are a the worst type of stock npc
>everything is a le joke and le cringe
I don't understand your reddit memes.
Lol I love when dumbasses watch this movie and only like the shootout then claim that's the only part everyone else likes.
there's the romance part. is that what you're talking about? you know the rules, you have to show your breasts.
the plot is mid but all the characters have rizz
and the shootout was locked
It's by far his best film, probably Collateral second.
jamie f*xx ruins every single movie, especially Jarhead and Law Abiding Citizen.
Way of The Gun is MUCH better
The whole plot is built around Waingro. Why was on he on the crew to begin with? It's never explained.
Riddle me this: why did they remove "ferocious arent I" from the director's cut?
idk bruh been a straight MINUTE seense i seen the OG cut ya feel
its Miami Vice
>speed boat in designer suit
maybe i will watch this
you haven't watched yet? pleb
based fellow MV enjoyer
the ending sequence is brilliant
OP has trash taste in both women and movies. Not surprising.
The theatrical cut that is, not the director's cut.
>not being ride or die for Linkin Park
plebs out
Burt Reynolds version more fun
Good movie but it always rubs me the wrong way when cops are portrayed as hard-charging, screaming maniacs.
Real cops are sleep deprived boy scouts and blue collar joes. High ranking cops are stoic, quiet and good at politics. Obviously there are exceptions but a screeching Pachino character is ridiculous.
cop pls
its good to see trans actors like sarah gandon getting roles in b list movies
Stunning insight.
>hey I just saw heat
Pacino was past his prime. DeNiro’s character wasn’t particularly interesting. The entire subplot with Natalie Portman is ridiculously dumb
the gunfights and the supporting cast are the highlights but it’s generally overrated
The sum is greater than the parts.
I like it a lot, but there was little point in the Portman subplot. That should've been cut.
>subplot with Natalie Portman is ridiculously dumb
That's the only weakness imo. Rest was great.
It's better
It’s not
It goes to shit in the last act
First 2 acts are Michael Mann and the last act is John Woo. Face Off John Woo
Collateral and Thief are better
only men would understand
You're not that smart.
Heat is the most masculine movie every made. Only women, homosexuals and low T males dislike it