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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, thank god Nimrod broke up this homosexualry.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shit, I could look at mutants dying all day. Frickers thought they could be like Prometheus but ended up reaching too high like Icarus. I can't muster up any sympathy for a bunch of characters who are constantly written as uppity holier-than-though minorities. Frick Marvel, I hope their writers all collectively break their wrists.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        edgy

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. the last inhumangay

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Muggas deserve to die

          JUGGERNAUT had to be hurled out of the scene because otherwise he would have FRICKED that ROBOT UP.

          With what, his stupid little bow tie? He looks fricking ridiculous. Death would be a preferrable fate over being an X-Men member.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          edgy

          >Mutie sympathizers
          Are you black or something? Shiiiiieeeeet, figured your kind'd be offended. Chillax, Jamal.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I fully support tattooing numbers and barcodes on mutant forheads, and putting a leash on them. Frick those walking nuclear bombs.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eat a dick you flatscan wienersucker.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is Nimrod being depicted in such a jovial, likable way as he does something so horrible? This shit is golden.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's having the time of his life wrecking the shit out of the mutant 1%.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Writers likely speaking through him and just being glad they can finally drop them hammer.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Writers learned of Pelinal Whitestrake

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          REMAN

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I AM ANGRY

          ANGRY ABOUT MUTANTS

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Half the Exterminators Dead

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        What your talking about Jub, Dazz got bigger boobs than ass.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I really liked that dumb mini. RIP Jubes, my queen. Damn what happens to Shogo?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          she dropped him off to otherworld as she was done being his mum

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        ...wtf is this page. Is this supposed to be funny?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I actually smilled so I guess it worked

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Indeed! Well spotted, anon.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They all look like drag queens
      >Get fricking wrecked
      B A S E D

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who dat in the top left dying?

      it was very c**ty of Marvel to do a 'vote for members of the new X-Men team!' to deliberately kill them off, knowing it would be packed with fan favourites.

      essentially punishing readers for liking b and c list characters.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Surge dodged a bullet

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        None of these characters are staying dead. They're all going to come back just without the cloning passed off as resurrection shit.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Marvel fricking HATES the "vote for the next X-Men" scheme because fans voted for Firestar (who Duggan DESPISES) instead of the D-Lister Duggan wanted instead, so he did this to punish fans when they repeated fricking over Duggan's SJW garbage wish of more darkies by voting in Juggernaut.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Who did Duggan want?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Monet who he made a supporting character for an arc and will be a character in uncanny avengers

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      So satisfying to watch this useless homosexual die.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        who dat

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Prodigy, see OP pic.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Prodigy is a skeleton and not white and bald

            BMWF?

            Black male White Female

            I was mostly just joking, but you know perfectly it's a BMWF thing, worst part is the "hundred years long love" bullshit to push it as the one true love. Well no, worst part is that it's the TRUE Laura and she's reduced to arm candy. I have legit no idea what where they thinking.

            Yeah the Laura that went through so much just to be Synch's PDA toy and personal sex kitten seems a bit weird

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        WHAT THE HOLY MENSTRUATION

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          nimrod bringing that heavy flow

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >real characters like jubilee survive
      >moronic fake ones like 'frenzy' die
      Kek.

      https://i.imgur.com/HlJcboS.jpg

      So what is the Death toll so far?

      >we want the "homosexual 30 year olds pretending they're zoomers on instagram" audience

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>real characters like jubilee survive
        Anon.....

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Have Cannonball do nearly nothing for four years sitting in space with his Hickman assigned wife
      >Bring him here just to kill him

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dazzler has it even worse, constantly mocked for her washout career, broke up with longshot because muuuh amnesia, forgotten in the dust. And only brought back to have a cute moment with Jugg and die horribly.

        At least she canonicly got an ass according to Jube.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I miss Longshot. Even after Krakoa lightened up on their non-mutie immigration they still didn't bring him back. Now Ali will never know about how their son got the Cable treatmen.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I find it hilarious how fricking racist the mutant became, man it's not like Longshot is a normal human either.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            probably for the best, since Peter David thought it was funny to turn Shatterstar into his own grandfather.
            >I'm sorry, can you repeat the part where you just said I was 'kind of' fricking a clone of my own son this whole time?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Weird but also she might be into that, look at her costume, she's into kinky shit.

              I find it hilarious how fricking racist the mutant became, man it's not like Longshot is a normal human either.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      They felt like making it really graphic, huh?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Jubilee one where she got curbstomped with the little *pop* onomatopoeia was crazy

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think the "pop" was for her fireworks, but double meaning, I guess.

          Dazzler and Longshot breaking because "Muuuh amnesia" was so fricking shit.

          That amnesia in general was shit.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They all look like drag queens
      >Get fricking wrecked
      B A S E D

      Marvel comics will only be relevant and respected again if the deaths are for real and they stop disrespecting the readers.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dazzler and Juggernaut are the only real casualities worth a shit.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Juggernaut won't even be dead for long, he's in the solicitations.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jubilee.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        But Juggernaut didn't die, people often forget that he has a good healing factor even if not at full power, he was either captured or left for dead in Krakoa.

        They pretty much confirmed that winning the election was what saved him.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Okay. I despise quips on principle now. But that one, given the context, was alright.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no sympathy for misanthropic mutants. As long as they deny their humanity, they are lesser. They deserve this shit for their arrogance and I'm disappointed that it's just going to get reversed.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      And of course Synch and not-Laura survive. Frick Duggan and his poochies.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe type of moronic shit that makes me hate comics.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, plot contrivances are pretty common. They usually don't bother me as long as a book delivers something else. These books deliver novelty and zanyiness, so I'm fine with it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't all mutants just come back anyway or did they get rid of that plot point, sorry it's been awhile

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        This entire plotline is about the weird mutant orgy island that enables mutants to resurrect whenever they die getting destroyed

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          So there's no point to getting mad that any of these characters died right

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            i mean no as far as we know they're all "dead" but this is comic books and jean grey isn't actually staying dead sadly

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry, again, I haven't read X-Men in ages so you can just ignore this if you want but.
              Doesn't this

              This entire plotline is about the weird mutant orgy island that enables mutants to resurrect whenever they die getting destroyed

              mean death doesn't matter? Or do you mean something happened that means they'll stay dead

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                the resurrection island is being burned to the ground

                they can't resurrect anymore

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It could go either way. If the island is going away, this could be the start of another classic X-Men culling. They won't return and we'll get a very scaled down mutant population. Who's on a future cover that died at the gala? That'll answer the question of if anyone should care.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Jean died at the Gala and she's getting a mini series about coming back to life. This is sadly only lasting until the end of the year

              https://bleedingcool.com/comics/checklist-for-x-mens-the-fall-of-x-from-marvel-in-august-2023/

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            At the moment the mutants making the resurrections possible are gone, presumed dead by Chuck. It's unclear if they can still do their thing, wherever they are.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        The 5 mutants that do the resurrection stuff got sent through a separate evacuation portal from everyone else, so presumably they're off the board for awhile, away from everybody else. I'd imagine they'll show up again near the end of the arc just long enough to respawn all the important people, then enough of the 5 will be killed off that they lose the ability to bring anyone else back.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks! That explains it.
          Sorry I think the last time I read a X-Men comic was when Kitty Pryde got connected to a space ship

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off, Cannonball and Jubes get nuked but they get away?
      Why is SYNCH getting so much fricking play?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hickman probably had plans for Synch that the current X-Office are following. If it makes you happy it will probably end with Synch and Old Laura fricking off to live happily ever after, like Hickman tried to do with Mr Fantastic, Cannonball, and Apocalypse.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's an interracial couple. it's x23 getting play

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          All this storyline just to end up with her preferring strong black men

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            If it makes you feel better it took her like 300 years to start thinking that way

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              100 I think she says, now she is addicted

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      JUGGERNAUT had to be hurled out of the scene because otherwise he would have FRICKED that ROBOT UP.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Juggernaut 1v1's that robot for nearly the entire book, but eventually loses.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          ?t=529

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can't Juggernaut infinitly continue fighting due to his enchantment?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Depends on how much whoever is writing him that day wants him to job

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        He aint got Cyttorak right now, he's b***h made.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes he does unless something happened between his solo and now.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Juggernaut really is the final boss if he was ever written competently, he's beyond Superman level.

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who dat in the top left dying?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh please dust Not Bobby. Turn him into a snowcone

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous
            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nice. Hahaha those faces are a riot.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              How many Omega level mutants does Krakoa even have currently?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                like 12 ish

                Jean
                Bobby
                Magneto
                Forge
                Charles son (gone)
                Protus and some of the 5 like Hope
                Quentin (gone)
                Storm (Mars)

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                different Anon, what happened to Apocalypse?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Also Mars I think, possibly also dead. I don't really follow the Arakko storyline.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's in Amenth, but since his wife is now gonna wage a war on Arakko (Mars), he's probably gonna be in Mars soon, too.

                like 12 ish

                Jean
                Bobby
                Magneto
                Forge
                Charles son (gone)
                Protus and some of the 5 like Hope
                Quentin (gone)
                Storm (Mars)

                Mags is dead, Joseph is around in the Wanda book tho, apparently pretending to be Mags.
                Quire is back as of the latest X-Force, but he's old and not sure what his deal will be moving forward.
                Legion went off onto another dimension or something.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Joseph as in the clone? He's back?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's a suspicious Magneto in the Scarlet Witch book. It's obvious it's Joseph but they haven't said it outright yet.

                I mean, last we saw him, he got decapitated, now look at his neck.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Magneto is also dead unless he came back recently. The five are out of the picture since this book and Jean and Bobby died, so I guess it's just Forge now.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Forge
                are they really calling Forge an omega now? I mean, yeah, he's powers are stupidly op, but an actual omega level version of Forge would need to be like Forge's powers combined with Whiz Kid or Madison Jeffries' powers.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Omega just has to be the best person with that powerset

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                wasn't Forge the example of a powerful. mutant who was not an omega though? since tony a normal human is better than him

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Forge isn’t an omega

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                So forget powers is that he can see mechanical stuff? Jeffries and Whiz kids power are basically reworking/rebuilding, reconstructing, deconstructing, etc etc with tech in anything they want?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Forge has the power to basically invent ANYTHING. Jeffries and Whiz Kid can simply create tech/manipulate objects to create but are limited to their own slightly above average intelligence. Forge just has to think of something and he can make it, so long as he has the resources. Think Rick Sanchez but more well adjusted and not a domestic abuser.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >can invent ANYTHING
                like, say... an Anti-Nimrod?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                He kinda tried that...
                it became Nimrod

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                ah, naturally.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's hilarious, even a machine created by a mutant came to the logical conclusion that mutants are a priority threat.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Iceman (dead)
                Jean (dead)
                Storm (on Mars)
                Magneto (dead)
                Exodus (captured)
                Hope (captured)
                Elixir (captured)
                Proteus (captured)
                (Quentin) away
                Legion (gone)
                Mister M (another dimension)
                Vulcan (gone)
                Jaime Braddock (another dimension)

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Jean (dead)
                My ass

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's not how he works, and this is moronic. Just disable nimrod's power.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh no, they killed gay Iceman! Marvel must be full of homophobes!

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            What happened here? I thought Iceman was now strong enough to freeze the whole planet and slow down time. Last time I saw Nimrod a normal team could beat him. He's like a Dragonball villain here.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              The usual characters forgetting their powers. Several of them should be able to effortlessly solo the robot.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              The usual characters forgetting their powers. Several of them should be able to effortlessly solo the robot.

              This is a correction of villain decay. Nimrod, as originally depicted, was unstoppable. The only way they were able to beat him the first time was to push him through a portal that erased all knowledge of himself and gave him an entirely different identity

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                He's fighting someone who can literally disable atomic activity. There's no counter for that. Yet instead we have hammer hands.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nimrod's whole thing is he can modify himself to be have a perfect counter for anything he's scanned. So given that he knew that he was going to fight Bobby, he probably had a very literal 'atomic activity disabler negator' module. You don't fight Nimrod with something he's seen before. It doesn't work. He's an end-game threat that wiped out all mutants in the future.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >atomic activity disabler negator' module
                Anon, I want you to read what you just type in this post and reflect on it and tell why you don't deserve to get hit by a stapler.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually, how safe is it for Iceman to do that around a bunch of friendlies, powers or no? Nimrod attacked in a room full of what, for him, is a target rich environment and, for them, might have unacceptable collateral, like their infinite life hack team. Can any of them bring the fullest capacity of their power sets to bear without risking said collateral?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but Bobby also couldn't make it so cold time slows down back then. Instead of Nimrod showing he's got new tricks to deal with stronger mutants he just acts like a generic bruiser and everyone else acts like they don't know how to deal with him.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nimrod, as originally depicted, was unstoppable
                God I hate lazy "I'm just instantly magically immune to all your powers, no I don't have to explain how" villains. It's much interesting when they baddies are shown actually doing clever things to neutralized the heroes' powers, instead of just going "nuh-uh, I have my invincibility field on" like they're a 6 year old.

                Even just silly techno babble like "reducing cooling systems to increase internal temps. Deploy magnesium flare burst in a delta pattern to counter ice structures. Target Omega-2 and arm thermite Flechette swarm device" would be better.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                In fairness to the rest of the issue, we did actually see Orchis put in the work for every other part of their master plan, though it's dampened a bit because I think Krakoa kind of forget about Orchis for like a year.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bobby should be able to come back to life as long as his consciousness isn’t trapped and water molecules still exist.
              The previous version of Nimrod the X-Men barely beat was never at full health.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              in the time's arrow book trilogy he brought down robots (that grew larger and stronger when they absorbed kinetic energy) by putting them at absolute zero and spider-man had to wait to punch and shatter them, and it still hurt his fists even after they were rapped up in a bunch of webs

              writers don't know shit about any of their powers, or state that a character can terraform a planet and kill them off anyway because they like their stories to be arbitrary

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Think of like this

              Cold can't reach a temperature below negative 273 degrees Celsius. Heat meanwhile can go to a temperature of thousands

              So you only need to output more heat then what Iceman can cool down, what I'm saying is throw him into the sun or shove a sun inside him.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why is he cosplaying as Iori Yagami?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            shit, I didn't realize it

            He's even starting the Shiki Yaotome in that panel

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          You think he would have dressed differently if he knew he was gonna die?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Than a dress shirt and a vest? He has like the most normal formal wear there aside from his color scheme.
            The real problem is his choice of +1

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >guy terraformed an entire planet
          >his first plan to deal with a big robot guy is by hitting him in the face with his fists, except they're icy maces
          maybe he should have spent more time thinking about how to attack instead of thinking up that really shitty speech.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's been 10 years and bobby is still a homosexual

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you moronic? Why wouldn't he be?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >why wouldn't anyone retcon the 'takes it in the butt' retcon
          Asking the important questions.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wonder if he fricks himself with icicles sometimes

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      A Multiple Man duplicate

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they've got nano tech that they can secretly poison muties with to take away powers without anyone realising the tech is there
      Why the FRICK wouldn't you use that on all mutants? Just cover Krakoa in a cloud of power-dampening nanites.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they all look like shit

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hellfire Gala attire. Most of them suck but you'll probably never see them again.

      I'm still kinda annoyed Juggernaut lost.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      marvel hates x-men

      • 9 months ago
        First two

        Marvel hates readers

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    what is this gay shit

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      A gay moronic end to the worst status quo in X-Men history. Like yeah, they're really going to actually kill Jubilee or Dazzler or every single mutant for realsies. Frick why do this when you know it's being instantly reversed in some way? This is like Rosenberg going kill crazy because he knew it wouldn't matter. It's like Kamala's death. Why do any of this stupid shit when it ultimately means nothing because you obviously don't have the balls to even pretend to commit to it?

      House of M was the worst thing to ever happen to the X-Men and I'd rather go back in time to brain Quesada with a cinder block to stop it instead of OMD.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mean House of X. House of M was great.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          House of X was shit too. I just want my comfy Morrison era mutant integration period. Not the extinction stop-starts or mutant supremacist ethnostate.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >seething larper shitposts again
        This was the X-Men at their peak, and all you can do is seethe

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I unironically seethe and hate anyone who defends Krakoa even in jest.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You should take a chillpill then

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're correct

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not one for ryona but goddamn this is satisfying.
    >That 'pop'

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's her weak little plasma effect, not her head being popped like a grape

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        lets not and say we did

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Like she'll stay dead. When X-Men 97 rolls out you know Marvel's going to want a book with the animated team for synergy. She'll be back in a month.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not like they aren't gonna ruin it, the current writers loath TAS. I doubt they are competent or good willed enough to do something good, even in a limited "Cable go back to the past to save everyone and it's back to X-Men being a team of hero living in the mansion" run.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I never said it would good.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know. I'm just split because I want the X-Men I liked back, but I know it's a terrible monkey paw.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Marvel doesn't like Jubilee. She was created by Claremont to replace Dazzler (who was only really treated badly under Harras, as post Morrison she's been regularly featured on and off in the various X-Books and only really shitted on by Bendis since then) and represents the early 90s period that Marvel in the 00s since Quesada took over, despises. And given the controversy over them firing her voice actress (a white woman), they won't want to give any major attention towards her; especially since a writer used Jubilee in a recent TAS spin-off to shit all over Krakoa via having Jubilee be in the Moira role of resetting the timeline.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Hate Jub, Hate Daz
          Trully the king of SHIT TASTES

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >And given the controversy over them firing her voice actress
          They didn't fire her. She's still in the show just not as Jubilee. Court tweeted before the show was even announced she didn't want to reprise Jubilee in a revival there's zero controversy. Especially since the show has no fricking hype behind it. No one even leaked the SDCC footage, we didn't even have a thread for the panel.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No one even leaked the SDCC footage, we didn't even have a thread for the panel.
            Aren't voice actors part of SAG-AFTRA and on strike?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah but still had some production details. They showed up at one of the X-Men panels and dropped a clip, jacked off Cyclops for being a great character and leader, and then Marvel did a podcast for the show afterwards as part of their SDCC press. None of it really got any attention. The hype for this show is practically non-existent.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not up to date, why are these deaths considered permanent? Did Nimrod frick the cloning shit up or something? Or was it already out of commission? Coulda sworn I saw Kamala just used it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The 5 bailed because of Exodus saving them and a group of mutant with Charles resist power jumped away somewhere else, all other mutants got walked through the portals to wherever Orchis wants

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kamala used it before the gala. Nearly all mutants are "killed" during the gala by Chuck sending them trough gates that lead into a "meat grinder". They're obviously still alive, but out of the books for the moment.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably like 2 or 3 at most named characters, none that anyone actually cares about besides maybe one of my favorites which I won't name to jinx.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean just there I see Jublee, Dazzler and Cannonball getting killed. I feel like they are more popular ones.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone on that page is a fan-favorite to someone.
      Yes, even Frenzy or the post-Gillen gayed-up version of Prodigy.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean just there I see Jublee, Dazzler and Cannonball getting killed. I feel like they are more popular ones.

      Deaths:
      All humans attending the Gala except Kingpin.
      Frenzy
      Prodigy
      Multiple Man dupes
      Jubilee
      Dazzler
      Cannonball
      Jean Grey
      Iceman
      Lourdes Chantel (Shaw ex-wife)
      Background mutants

      Then only mostly senior X-Men escaped with Kingpin. All other mutants including the Five, who resurrect mutants, were captured.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish they had gone a little easier on the death toll, so there was at least a tiny believable chance that everything isn't getting reset by the end. Instead they went all out on the "shocking deaths" and now I can't give a shit because it's clearly going to get undone and most of them brought back to life sooner or later.
    Also just retconning Ms Marvel with "turns out she was always a mutant" was a lame as frick cop out.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the problem with Krakoa. From the word go the entire thing basically insults the reader's ability to suspend disbelief. You knew it wasn't lasting, none of the retcons to make it work made sense, and you know that all the characters aren't staying dead. Krakoa exists as basically one continuous diarrhea shit on the concept of change which is probably why everything has a "none of this matters" feeling.

      The writers don't care one bit about making the reader believe anything that's happened over the last four years is sticking and they don't care about making you think this will either much as they didn't care about making people believe Kamala was dying for real. It's openly insulting not just the readers' attempts to engage with the story but the idea that anything that happens actually means something. Why should the reader care about any of this when the writers are practically rolling their eyes and doing jerk off motions?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Krakoa should be a a two year long (at max) story arc that was kept away from the rest of the MU, and that ended with Moria's final death, which gets used as an excuse to reset things back to a state that undid all the damage Marvel, (also Bendis) did to the franchise while they were pissed over not having the movie rights.

        It could have been a fun, interesting alt universe story that came and went before it got tiresome, just like Age of Apocalypse. But nah, for some reason it turned into a never ending terminal cancer that got worse and more cluttered with every issue.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          it was meant to be more or less that, but then it sold like hot cakes. its why Hickman left, they took the plot away rom him.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it was meant to be more or less that
            It was confirmed that Hickman had planned Krakoa to go for 5 years

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              ...I have zero faith in his ability to keep those balls juggling for five years straight.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean he did it with his Avengers run

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did he though.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why does Tony look like he's got a mouth full of White Mystery Airheads?

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mutants have been dying and get brought back for years like it's nothing
    >even before this death was a joke for mutants
    >OH WOW LOOK AT ALL THESE DEAD MUTANTS

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      they didn't come back as often as you think. pyro was dead and out of x-men books for nearly twenty years, same with other c and d listers. sure, a character like rogue will get ressurected sooner rather than later, but anyone outside that core team? good luck.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's literally a joke in universe. People have commented on mutants coming back to life all the time. Before Krakoa.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          something being a joke doesn't mean its actually true

          people joke about pym hitting janet too like they go ten rounds on the regular.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            What are you talking about? The point is that the deaths are pointless and only done for shock value but it's hard to even be shocked when death lost meaning for mutants decades ago and is even more trivial these years.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Entire room of mutants getting taken out by someone called Nimrod
    lel. So much for being superior to humans.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >taken out by someone called Nimrod
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ok. But nimrod is modern slang for a moron.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hardly modern. Bugs Bunny used it sarcastically with Elmer Fudd and it's stuck ever since.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          We should change it so your birthname is the new 'moron' owo

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            t. mutie

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    best bawds mostly lived

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guess, though Laura is stuck as arm candy for Synch as a non-character still and Katie in a bad situation

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's weird how dumb arm candy Laura is the OG Laura, Synch must have some ability to put him over the edge sex wise to have Laura playing kitten to him.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          He Synched with the power "author fetish" giving him untold narrative power

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            author likes BBC or broken goth girls who like blades?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              I was mostly just joking, but you know perfectly it's a BMWF thing, worst part is the "hundred years long love" bullshit to push it as the one true love. Well no, worst part is that it's the TRUE Laura and she's reduced to arm candy. I have legit no idea what where they thinking.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                BMWF?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I legit can't recognize half the guys here, outside of Scott and Synch. Who's the guy in the bottom ?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            looks like
            Hellion - Just Kiss
            Teen Scoot - Just Hug
            Teen Angel - Fug and everything else
            Synch - Cold shoulder 100 years then 200 years of Blacked
            Wingbat - lol

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Wingbat
              Litteraly who ???
              >Check it
              Oh lmao it's a self insert OC isn't it ? Well, sound like someone got the qualification to writte for Marvel, hire him.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                He at least would be good with consistency of her character, I would put up with him lewding her for this

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea who's behind that. Is this a rabbit hole

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                He is some guy who spent $$$ on rule 34 pics and fanfics of his self insert, you can find his name on rule34.com and on hentai foundry and a03

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Look like she's doing a bit more than hugging scott here lmao.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cover bait and switch, she only got a hug from him and planned on jumping his bones, then his dad showed up and he left Earth leaving her dejected, Warren showed up and she was like frick off but he persisted.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Laura relationships are a mess lmao, I still remember the Hellion thing, but the problem was more the issue shitting on Hellion out of nowhere
                >Hellion is depressed by his life coming appart, his fricking arms being blown off
                >Laura show up, tell him he is a mess, he rant on how he feel abandonned and blow up some random shit, Laura leave after he start oppening up
                >Go after her and grab her arm to hold her back, Gambit get a pure schyzo moment and tell him he will blow his legs to match his arms if he grab Laura again (seriously WTF ?)
                >Apparently we are supposed to believe Helion is abusive
                >Latter do some adventure with Laura to save Reed kids and they warm up somewhat, guy outright ask if she giving him the cold shower because she find his metal arms disgusting, she deny and say she does care about him, but that she didn't abandon him
                >Save the kids, sweet moment, talk latter, kiss in the rain, then Laura tell him they wont see each other again without explaining, he get pissed off, tell her she dosn't care about anyone, get told she just dosn't care about him
                >ACTUALLY it's a fakeout and she admit to Gambit latter she does like him (and so is repelling him in fear of...close relationship?)
                >This never get anywhere because Utopia lol
                Actually now that I think about it, Laura sharring experience with a guy who feel guilty but divided over doing bad stuff and helping out of depression from body trauma while repelling him because she fear being TOO open about her own trauma would have been pretty good. Certainly much better than becoming PDL israeliteelery.
                Also about that Helion arc, still lmao about Scott and Rogue of all people just putting a "bad apple" on some angry teenager who got his arms cut off.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Laura was a fish out of water but had a crush on pretty boy Hellion who was a jerk, he lost his hands and grew a little but she moved on.

                She works well with Scott but he was pulled away, the girl needs some dick though and Bobby is gay so Warren it is then.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's the moronic thing, the issue where she "break up" with Hellion has her telling Gambit litteraly the page after that she lied and still feel for him. It's just put under the rugg.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lol did miss that, from where is that ? Is there any follow up ?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's a fan page.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well I'm sligtly disapointed, but thanks you for sharing anyway anon. It's cute. Even if I prefer Hellion with the psy arms

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Calling Laura arm candy seems reductive, if you've been reading the current X-Men run. She's gotten her fair share of attention since her rescue. The personality change comes from her having spent spent centuries inside the Vault with Synch. He came out completely different too.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            She kinda is, the Vault thing entire purpose was making her "Synch true love" and not much else. But I'm willing to listen about how post vault Laura "Talon" was good development.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              she will just end up being a traitor or something

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Being a milf IS good development.
              We now have two Laura’s for the place of one.
              They both are a good contrast to one another. You can see the juxtaposition and have they each turned out in their lives.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I fail to see how artificially aging a character to dump her as the arm candy of one of the most forced recent mutant (let's not pretend people gave a frick about Synch before he came back) is good, but whatever rock your boat I guess.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I fail to see how artificially aging a character to dump her as the arm candy of one of the most forced recent mutant (let's not pretend people gave a frick about Synch before he came back) is good, but whatever rock your boat I guess.

                Also having two Laura isn't good, make the character evolve or don't, this "Yeah she's completly different and might as well be someone else now but don't worry there is a clone of exactly the version she was before too" is shit

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kate's laying against a solid surface and I doubt Orchis equipped every goon squad with anti-phasing equipment just in case, she's fine.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          With how contrived this thing has been, I would not be surprised. But your right.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are two Laura’s remember.
        Milf one is getting blacked constantly and living her best life.
        The young one is sexually frustrated and is in X-Force.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Milf Laura is the true laura. And that's rather the problem.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't the existence of two Lauras pretty much confirms that no one is getting resurrected and they're just cloned with downloaded memories?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Laura is a clone herself so it doesn’t count.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              That was clear from the start. But the idea is that everyone reading this is suppose to be demoralized, nihilistic atheist that literally cant see any meaningful difference between an actual body and soul resurrection and just making a clone with downloaded memories.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                You sound fun. What makes this any different from all other resurrection methods used in comics? Is it fine by your standards if they reuse the old body? Did you drop Star Trek after they first used the transporter?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Did you drop Star Trek after they first used the transporter?
                And frankly it would be interesting to occasionally see some alien races in Star Trek that are genuinely disgusted by the idea of transporters because the very concept seriously conflicts with their cultural beliefs.

                But yeah, there is a difference. For instance, Dr Strange's recent resurrection clearly involved his soul since it was a whole thing about him doing a task for Death in return for getting to come back. Meanwhile Tony Stark's last death had him explicitly come back as a clone with copied memories and never pretended to be anything else but that.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, it's fine if the writers go there, and could be really interesting, but I don't understand why people here are pretending they can't enjoy a character anymore because the original died and it's now a clone. They're the same in every way.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Think of it this way, if it's the exact same character in every single way with no changes whatsoever, then what was the point of killing them off to begin with? Remember how much everyone rolled their eyes when Kamala Khan got ganked because they knew they'd bring her back as a mutant, and it took less than three months to be proven true?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Killing Kamala was Indeed pointless, but what they're doing wit Krakoa (showing a society that has conquered death) is potentially interesting. I don't think Marvel handled it perfectly (or even really explored the ramifications), but the idea is nice.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not really. Death was considered a joke to begin with for the X-men, so all that they did was turn the subtext of how the X-men aren't allowed to die for the sake of marketing into actual text. Hell, as someone who's friends with people who struggle with suicidal thoughts, seeing the X-men obsess over the act of violently committing sudoku as either a gateway to power or as a joke was kind of disgusting to read.

                That, and homosexual Superior didn't conquer death, homosexual Supreme did. Decades before Krakoa.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but what they're doing wit Krakoa (showing a society that has conquered death) is potentially interesting.
                It isn't, because death hasn't meant anything in Marvel, doubly so for the X-Men, so there's nothing to discover because the fifth incarnation of Iron Man is talking to the eighth incarnation of Rick Jones, while the tenth incarnation of the Earth's population brought back from a universal wipe are functioning like nothing happened, so we've already seen a society that deals with it, and it's that nobody seems to give a shit.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                homie marvel writters would struggle writting decent episodic, what make you think their take on "post death society" could be anything vaguely worth reading ?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                they didn't even bother to come up with a reason for why she's mutant now. It was just "lol, turns out she always was one, and that darn terrigon mist was hiding it the whole time"

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It was just "lol, turns out she always was one,
                I mean that's how it works. You're born with an x-gene, it activates eventually.

                Are you implying Peter being a forever looser with no money locked in a eternal of living with May and loosing any significant relationship is good ?

                If you want stories that end, read a creator-owned book. If you're tired of Marvel, stop reading Marvel.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                That argument dosn't work when stuff like Spidergirl HAD Peter grow up and change without "ending the story"
                No need to play defense force for complete hacks. The point we are today was reached after years of nepotism and cost cutting

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That argument dosn't work when stuff like Spidergirl HAD Peter grow up and change without "ending the story"
                Hadn't he literally retired?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                At the start, but he come to help and form his daughter as his successor.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Spider-Girl was an AU where Peter was a middle aged man. It was also one of Marvel's lowest sellers and cancelled multiple times, only saved because its dedicated fanbase would flood Marvel with tens of thousands of physical letters to get them to uncancel it. A situation like that could never be canon. People want a relatively young Peter Parker active as Spider-Man.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only people who wants a young peter parker are the editors, who these days are jaded gays on permanent middle age crisis.
                When the old writers were made men with families.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                They've had Death itself confirm that the souls are going into the cloned bodies. But with Laura, her original soul would be in her original body and the new Laura is a clone with a brand new soul.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This also Falls into Mephisto's territory and the theory that charles made a deal with him to get krakkoa and all we got now is the result of Mephisto's wish now that he is back ruling hell.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              That was clear from the start. But the idea is that everyone reading this is suppose to be demoralized, nihilistic atheist that literally cant see any meaningful difference between an actual body and soul resurrection and just making a clone with downloaded memories.

              It's iffy. Clones in marvel have their own souls and that one time nightcrawler died you got to see basically his soul/consciousness traveling through the afterlife (he met ghost rider banshee or whatever on the way) into his new krakoa made body, which suggests still the same person/soul in there. Idk what this means for Laura though, best guess is that Talon is og Laura and wolverine is a(nother) clone

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                The other, more important issue, is idea that it was completely consequence-free resurrection. In comics, there's always been a chance that someone brought back from the dead will have missing memories, maybe a lost soul, someone impersonating them, just SOMETHING that gives some room for doubt. Even in the case of Spider-Man where they outright confirmed all the clones had souls, Ben Reilly had to learn the fact that he'd been brought back enough times in such quick succession that his own core personality was eroding from damage to the soul. That's the kind of thing that people grew skeptical of regarding the X-men's resurrection, because it's like magic in that cloning/resurrection was never considered free, and that there was always a snag.

                Which is why it's funny as hell to see the writers doubling down so hard on it to the point they dragged Scarlet Witch into shit and outright made a separate mutant afterlife in the desperate hopes that it'd shut up critics who was certain it couldn't be as straightforward as the readers were told, only for the two Lauras thing to happen and start it up all over again.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Easily fixed. The Laura's will merge together so we'll have the young one that continues fricking Synch.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Has any version of Blink shown up at all during the Krakoa arc? Or has she literally spent the whole thing stuck on the resurrections back log that keeps getting pushed further and further back because of line jumpers.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Domino survived?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        she wasn't there none of the X-force characters were

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, I'm just really looking forward to things, this is my first extinction level event where I'm actively following the X-Men storyline, was this the same sentiment during the time of Genosha and Decimation? IvX and the Terrigen Crap was so bad so I'm not counting tat.

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    is this supposed to be a serious comic? while they're in some moronic fashion get-up?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah they have been doing this gala event for the last few years, now somebody crashed it.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        The sliding timescale really fricks those up because it there definitely haven't been three in-universe years between them so the scheduling for them must come across as completely arbitrary to Marvel citizens

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yet Gabby is still a kid and Anole still gets younger

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yaaay, years of world building and character development crudely and hamfistedly hacked down to return to status quo for the fourth time...No wonder manga is eclipsing western comics so badly.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah...such good character development...such a waste...

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >any given character is now a bawd screaming for troony rights
      >character development
      >"world building" was a bunch of copies of copies and more generic monster muties
      VGH, THE GLORIOVS KRAKOAN AGE!

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >to return to status quo for the fourth time
      Anon, the last time the X men were in a state that could actually be called "Status Quo" was all the way back in 2005 before House of M.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >worldbuilding
      >character development
      None of this happened. Krakoa is an insult to anyone who's ever liked the X-Men. It's X-Men for non-fans.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Last issue of Immortal had Xavier himself spell out why Krakoa sucks and needed to end.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't have to end imo.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          The alternative is to actually become a functioning country instead of 99.9% people hanging on a beach ruled by a bunch of narcissistic morons.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            That might have been interesting.
            Unfortunately we aren't allowed to have nice things.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              it more the Marvel writers really can't do those kind of Systemic society driving type of stories even writers that are much more system driving like Hickman swept a lot of things under the rug to get Krakoa going only to ignore certain massive. questions.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                The truth is here, X-Office writter problem (and it's the case with marvel writters in general) is that they loathe the codes and classic story beats and want to do something """new""" and innovative and defining, but simply aren't good enough as writters. The culture war shit exist and dosn't help, but at the core it's mediocre writters with big ego seething at more loved work

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Never would have happened, either. I've tried reading the books, and it's obvious from how the X-men pretty much suck at business talk, diplomacy that is more involved than "We give you this macguffin in exchange for you letting us do whatever we want", writing PR that practically jerks itself off via humble bragging, and the lack of any actual look into their country that the writers couldn't care less about putting together the actual functions of Krakoa. Based on shit like X-men Red and Immortal X-men, they're all more into the interpersonal drama between the elite players on Krakoa ala Game of Thrones or Sex and the City. That by itself isn't bad, since overwrought drama and clashing of ideology/philosophy is the X-men's bread and butter, but the fact that it's the ONLY thing that the writers have delivered on in the last four years does not speak to their ability to actually make Krakoa a convincingly functional country even if you gave them ten more years. Hell, the times we actually get to see them write anything that isn't from the perspective of the elite aka the X-men is limited to the chart pages, and even then it's like 1 in like a thousand of those.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          This "haha we can just casually kill mutants in every story because they can all respawn no problem" has to end sometime.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Mutant separatism is bad
        >Which is why I deliberately avoided recruiting non-mutants at all opportunities in all my efforts even though they would have been useful as frick for every endeavor I've ever undertaken
        Shut up, Chuck.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well in the early years Fred Duncan was his human ally in the FBI. And Moira used to be a human ally until Hickman's retcon.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm just saying current canon is he created the X-Men to police mutantkind and he only staffed the X-Men with mutants so that suggests both that he viewed mutants both as a separate threat from the rest of humanity and one which had to only be addressed by mutants. And Juggernaut and Deadpool occasionally.

            Xavier has ALWAYS been a separatist and that is the fundamental problem with the fricking franchise. Literally the only time he wasn't is when the school took in exchange students and they had that one human student in a wheelchair that's never been brought up again.

            If the series *actually* focused on integration, it'd solve a lot of the fricking rot it's had over the decades, but then they'd need to come up with a new plot other than separatist island gets genocided.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >he only staffed the X-Men with mutants
              Well yeah, you wouldn't send normal people to fight mutants. His human allies had noncombat roles.
              When Claremont wrote the title they offered membership to Carol who went ballistic and left when she saw Rogue was on the team.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Well yeah, you wouldn't send normal people to fight mutants.
                There's no shortage of powered humans that can do the job, plenty more powerful than mutants, and more that would willing to help, so why not?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                They asked Spider-Man and he told them to frick off.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Was this before or after they found out that Spider-Man wasn't a mutant and they lost their shit at the revelation?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This was their first meeting. Xavier had Cerebro he would have known if he was a mutant or not. They also offered membership to the Mimic even though they knew he got his powers from a lab experiment.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mimic is allowed on Krakoa

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                they retconned Mimic into a mutant

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                When was this? Last I remember seeing him was in X-Men Legacy during the Schism era, and he was firmly established to not be a mutant, because giving Weapon Omega (who feeds on Mutant energy) his energy made Weapon Omega unstable and eventually turned him into a living bomb.

                I'm sure retcons may have happened since then, but that's the last I saw him.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                It was in a data page from HoXPoX where they explained how resurrection worked. Weapon Omega is one of those mutants I would have liked to see on Krakoa.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                hmm. Yeah, it says "mutants such as Sync or Mimic" in regards to replicating the powers of the Five to help in the resurrection process.

                Still, he's not supposed to be one, though he theoretically could mimic those powers. Call me obstinate but I'll chalk it up to wonky wording rather than him getting retconned into a proper mutant.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably got retconned just because Hickman was setting up that thing about gestalt clones with multiple powers as being this huge deal that took sinister ages to figure out how to create. Mimic' old origin would have clashed with that.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This was their first meeting. Xavier had Cerebro he would have known if he was a mutant or not. They also offered membership to the Mimic even though they knew he got his powers from a lab experiment.

                Honestly I don't see why the X-men in their best day would not welcome other super powered "freak" who want to do good and need a place to call home.

              • 9 months ago
                First two

                Because they are racist

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Longshot is extranged from his familly because Krakoa dosn't allow non-mutant
                Dam. Didn't expect Marvel would have the balls to show how those communities often have great racial hatred themselve. Bold and brave.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bloody hell, I'm pretty sure when magneto tried to set up his own various attempts at mutant segregation even he was usually shown as being willing to let family members of mutants come live there as well.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Human spouses can get Krakoa citizenship, Northstar's husband and Kingpin both did this. Dazzler just doesn't care enough about her estranged husband right now.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Now dazzler is half of the mutie woman she was

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                For an island that's always being targeted, you would think that they want as many Luck-based superhumans on it as possible.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dazzler and Longshot breaking because "Muuuh amnesia" was so fricking shit.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                There was also the "miscarried" baby.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                What a shiteating grin, always like that fricker, he's a eternal brat.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, he was getting lucky.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                They did, his name was Longshot.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't they believe he was a mutant at first ? But yes it's true. To bad Dazzler isn't with him anymore and he never showed up on Krakoa.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                So like how Magnito tried to recruit Electro despite him not having the X-Gene.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Man, Candid Camera is old

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Stevie Hunter, Carol, Longshot, Mimic sometimes, he's had a lot.
            I miss good gal Moira.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You didn't read any mutant comic.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao how's it feel? Garbage like this current run exists BECAUSE Marvel kept hiring on morons who didn't respect canon, established character's personalities and histories, or world building. If they didn't respect the old stories and developments, why should they respect yours?

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Quarter of a million, if all goes well.

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hellfire Gala
    >Hellfire
    How are muties not the bad guys again?

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    as long as this ass is safe, I'm happy.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      She is with the X-force

      >Hellfire Gala
      >Hellfire
      How are muties not the bad guys again?

      Stark got betrayed by one and stole his tech, now he is out for revenge and using his dad's membership.

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Death is meaningless in the Marvel universe
    Being a capeshit character has to be some modern layer of hell, where you're constantly tortured and killed by a bunch of fricked up balding 40-something writers.

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally impossible to give a shit about the X-Men with this crap. Oh boy they got genocided again, that only happens every other year. I'm sure things will be different this time.

    I wish the industry would just collapse already.

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully this isnt the end ive been enjoying the current status quo

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, while I am enjoying this era, if it comes back I want it to be much more closely explored. Then again, Marvel has a bad track record with that, since I'm pretty sure Atlantis and Wakanda experience a major cultural change in between each appearance.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fall of X will stretch for at least another 6 months. We may get an actual reset after the next round of minis completes. But I'm looking forward to Dark X-Men and Children of the Vault.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's Fall of X until the end of the year with a relaunch in the new year

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any good porn of the mutants having orgies on Krakoa?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      there is one good one on ehentai if you look for it, it starts with Jean and Emma but has a few other pairings

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's the worst part. There are no orgies, there never were. Maybe Scott and Logan had a threesome with Jean but that clearly didn't last. And everyone else is either in committed relationships or one night stands.

      Hell, they're still so culturally in-tune with humanity that Storm hasn't brought back her nudist tendencies.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think (hope) that Scott also had threesomes with Jean and Emma, and maybe Jean and Emma occasionally slept together on their own.

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The gala itself:
    Cannonball, Dazzler, Prodigy, Frenzy, Jubilee, unkown mutant(only upper half seen), Jean, Lourdes, along with 64 unknown humans (counted from the number of extras in the background in a few pages. Total:73 people dead.
    Mutants who disappeared:250,000.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mystique is probably dead too (and went out like a b***h) unless she was faking the whole thing (which is entirely possible)

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do have to wonder how the hell Orchis will explain this shit. Also you have to think about families, because yes, I'm one of those buttholes who use fridge logic.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          They framed Krakoa for the dead humans by telling the world via their media contacts that the human guests/dignitaries confronted Xavier over how Krakoa was selling tainted medicine to kill humans with at a later date and Xavier murdered them all and ordered an evacuation of all mutants once his "scheme" was outed to the world.

          Hence why Emma is now a wanted fugitive in Iron Man.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Legit can't believe they're going with such an obvious bullshit lie. Then again, the drugs were such a stupid macguffin to begin with (just how much did Xavier have to bribe the FDA with to push this shit) that I'll take any excuse to be done with them

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mystique is obviously not dead as her body disappeared before anyone got near it.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mystique literally has a one-shot with Nightcrawler coming up in a couple months so she’s definitely not dead

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Death by unstoppable murderbot is what Krakoans get for exiling Danger.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's Mass Effect 3 all over again.

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does Magik survive? Does she get cured of her nanobot aids?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      she in the realm of X book so she unlikely to be dead

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      she's apparently where ever the other evacuees went to instead of mars. And I'd assume her powers will stay off line just long enough to have what ever story they have planned for how that group gets back to earth.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm assuming all the mutants got teleported to the Atlantic Krakoa island, which we see Mother Righteous stick in one of her magical snow globes as part of her deal with Orchis to help, "kill all the mutants."

        She's probably playing the long game and trying to get on their good side, in the hopes that Legion and co. don't come back from whatever higher plane of existance they ascended to a few issues ago (she tried to kill him, it didn't work.)

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >She's probably playing the long game and trying to get on their good side, in the hopes that Legion and co. don't come back from whatever higher plane of existance they ascended to a few issues ago (she tried to kill him, it didn't work.)
          She wanted Legion back because he thanked her which put him under her control. Writing himself out of existence again was the only way he could escape that fate. If she saved them it all, it was purely so they would all thank her and give her even more power.

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, did Nimrod kill my wife or has Marvel completely forgotten about her?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      the later

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        thank god, at least I won't suffer shitty runs, character assassination nor retcons.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny how completely Hope ditched her original five... Were they ever really her friends?

      Also even looking back at the Lights through the lens of mutant circuits, I can't for the life of me discern what all of them together could actually accomplish.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's funny how completely Hope ditched her original five... Were they ever really her friends?
        It's probably a case of the writter not liking them and conveniently doing away with them, character relation be damned

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          they were characters Bendis didn't create and as such he didn't like them

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Frick Bendis, he shitted up mutant and everything else he could touch, then he went at DC and did the same.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not wrong, but I thought that by the time of AvX I thought they all hated Hope's guts for the whole subtle mind control and being an edgy hardass.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        writers only give a shit about her because of her relationship to cable and keep the plot armor for cyclops being right, so long as they never mention cyclops willing to kill bishop and so long as writers never mention the story decision making bishop become a villain that napalms all of south america just to so cyclops can be right and beast be wrong for not wanting to kill bishop.

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    HUMANS AS THE ONLY RACE
    PUNCH A MUTIE IN THE FACE

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's a pretty established thing that anything involving the sentinels always ends with the humans getting screwed over too. Even the start of the whole krakoa arc showed that the last few humans alive will end up being kept in a zoo in the "Nimrod Wins" timeline, and presumably are destroyed when the machines finally ascend into a World Mind.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I really want ultron to show up in one of thes Sentiel stories and pull a "earth isn't yours to conquer "

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >loved
    >past tense

    I almost forgot that Scott is a cuck now thanks to the degenerates at the x-office. Thanks for reminding me

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like Jean might think she's dead dead, maybe that dagger Moira used super kills mutants or something, felt like they were emphasizing it for a reason

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        She sure seems more dead than most.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically she is back to life somehow, which means that or she got a spare body or She will possess Madeleine, and unironically leading to the Spider Goblin incident with peter

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok what have they done to Firestar?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Made her a villain instrumental in genociding mutantkind, lol.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Jean brainwashed everyone into thinking Firestar was a mole feeding intel to ORCHIS to save her life and give the X-Men a mole, but now everyone hates her.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Oh
              >so that page was Jean suggesting Firestar throw Hank further under the bus

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              She's getting The Boss'd.

              She's gonna be the greatest hero, or at least really important to win in the end, but everyone will think she's a traitor.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Combination of Duggan not liking her and X-gays hating her because she was on the Avengers so she's a cop and a narc according to them.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Chuck looks like he's having a great time.

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know about you, but watching these wienersuckers getting beaten down and killed is cathartic. It's too much to hope the Muties cease to exist as an entity alltogether, but them getting divided and removed from the political landscape is a nice consolation prize.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >getting uppity over fictional characters
      get a life

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You will never be part of the mutant sex orgies.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >says the guy who posted this

        Eat a dick you flatscan wienersucker.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          eee... no? to be fair, you both take this larping too far

  32. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The hell fire gala is just a pride parade now?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only one of them is gay, Prodigy.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm under the impression the hellfire gala was just created to let gay artists go ham so even if the characters aren't gay it's still really gay.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh hey, this means Speed is freed from his gay boyfriend.

  33. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >omega omega omega omega omega
    What the hell is the infatuation with this shit? The reason why we have a bunch of people b***hing about Nimrod BTFO'ing everybody is because power creep has gotten fricking ridiculous over the decades and the original appearance of Nimrod almost casually wiping out mutants seems relatively tame in comparison.
    >Iceman can make ice bridges
    >can freeze things with a blast
    >is still vulnerable to heat
    >UM ACTUALLY IT TURNS OUT THAT HE CAN TURN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE INTO A POPSICLE, HE JUST WASN'T TRYING HARD ENOUGH
    It's shonen shit at this point.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >picking one of the few characters where this is actually a long-term thing and not the bakers dozen just handed the title for krakoashit
      Bobby's total bullshit has been inconsistently around for ages.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bobby not living up to his potential has been a minor plot point since the 80’s.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bobby deserves to be the big mutant powerhouse slapping around the Arakii instead of Ororo. Frick Bendis for turning him into a gay so all his stories just get to be about that.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bobby not living up to his potential has been a minor plot point since the 80’s.

        >picking one of the few characters where this is actually a long-term thing and not the bakers dozen just handed the title for krakoashit
        Bobby's total bullshit has been inconsistently around for ages.

        Huge difference between "realizing your potential" and being able to more competently use your powers and abilities and "oops, I sneezed and brought the Earth into the Ice Age :)" levels of bullshit. That's what I'm talking about power creep especially being largely responsible for shit like villain decay, and why Nimrod looking like a Nimrod but somehow being treated as a massive threat is so dissonant. It's the same shit as Spider-Man being able to punch off Scorpion's jaw because of "oh man, he was only using 10% of his power" writing, they went too far and moronic with it.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Now that Bobby is gay does he have a mancrush on Thor? Thor was like the only dude trying to help him at this point.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was just the writer wanking off to Iceman and pulling a power-up out of his ass.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair, ICeman returns pretty soon with astonishing iceman, so I doubt he got hurt permanently

  34. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did Cypher survive?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cypher got trapped by Krakoa itself, to protect him.

  35. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    dazzler has like the perfect deepthroat costume.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Right ?

  36. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Nimrod drops in
    I wanted Reed to use his anti-mutant ray he cooked up with the contents of an Ikea

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well they shat on him and went "Lol your son isn't one of us."

      Nimrod should've brought it with him.

  37. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Krakoa so queer?

    Not even shitposting, the whole thing looks like a world where pride month celebration is both mandatory and goes around all year long. Who is that for?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think they're going for high fashion, which admittedly looks pretty gay.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Calm yourself anon. You’re showing your ignorance. You’ve never seen the real life Met Gala, have you?

  38. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not enough.

  39. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    They gaywashed Sam, too?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      No you dumbass casual.
      Everyone’s dressed up for the gala.

  40. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else gate that whenever a Mutant safe haven is created "Genosha, Providence, Utopia, Krakoa," it must inevitably be destroyed or taken down?

    It's like mutants aren't every allowed to be happy or win and when they do it's always

    A. Temporary
    B. When they are "anti heroic "

    Why can't we have Mutants having a thriving successful culture while being portrayed as unambiguously heroic?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hickman planned on tearing it all down a while ago but Marvel wanted it to continue for much longer. It was never meant to last. Mutants are always supposed to struggle and be hated.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Let's be frank, because that shit is boring long-term to Marvel. How many times you think Tony Stark's been allowed to just keep his company without any issues? Or Peter Parker's been allowed to have something resembling a stable life? Or Captain America's been allowed to sincerely believe in his place in American society without worrying how much of a fossil he is or how decadent the world's become? Or Bruce Banner is allowed to go into seclusion so nobody would have to worry about another Hulk rampage? If the X-men just had a place where they could just camp out and never have to fear for their safety ever again, nobody would give a shit about their cries of being persecuted and hated, they already have a place where they can be happy away from the normies that despise them.

      And before you go "But can't the X-men leave their safe haven to just go help people out of the goodness of their hearts", they've been doing that already. And their books still suck. Even more so because they keep talking about the poor pitiful humans the way first worlders vacationing talk down to third worlders about how they're clearly suffering living in their crap shacks and not having krakoan pumpkin spice lattes or whatever.

      TL;DR Marvel doesn't do happy cause happy doesn't sell

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you implying Peter being a forever looser with no money locked in a eternal of living with May and loosing any significant relationship is good ?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I thought the same thing, lol what a terrible example

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nope, but that's Marvel's logic for why they don't bite the bullet and just give him a stable status quo to at least make his suffering actually mean something. Misery = sales.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Misery = sales.

            That isn't even true though.

            The Lemire run that shat on the Bendis run by exiling mutants to Limbo and having humans hate them like foaming at the mouth maniacs for no reason, the X-Men vs Inhumans debacle, Rosenberg's misery run before Hickman, nobody liked that fricking garbage and it tanked the line.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Let's be frank, because that shit is boring long-term to Marvel. How many times you think Tony Stark's been allowed to just keep his company without any issues? Or Peter Parker's been allowed to have something resembling a stable life? Or Captain America's been allowed to sincerely believe in his place in American society without worrying how much of a fossil he is or how decadent the world's become? Or Bruce Banner is allowed to go into seclusion so nobody would have to worry about another Hulk rampage? If the X-men just had a place where they could just camp out and never have to fear for their safety ever again, nobody would give a shit about their cries of being persecuted and hated, they already have a place where they can be happy away from the normies that despise them.

          And before you go "But can't the X-men leave their safe haven to just go help people out of the goodness of their hearts", they've been doing that already. And their books still suck. Even more so because they keep talking about the poor pitiful humans the way first worlders vacationing talk down to third worlders about how they're clearly suffering living in their crap shacks and not having krakoan pumpkin spice lattes or whatever.

          TL;DR Marvel doesn't do happy cause happy doesn't sell

          There needs to be a balance of good times to bad. Recent Marvel is moronic and doesn't understand that people want a Spiderman that loses some AND wins some (in personal life and super fights), instead of just being an unlikable, eternally shit upon sad sack. Or god help us, that fricking Spiderverse crap that literally said that the entire fabric of reality is apparently built around Spiderman and the people he know having shitty lives

          I like how the convo shifts to Peter solely when every other hero has it just as bad or even worse

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Spider-Man self-inserters are just as bad as X-Men self-inserters when trying to compete for the Self-Pity Olympics.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Of recently only peter and bruce wayne are getting shit hard

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Try being frank castle

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, you could easily find a new angel for the x-men and update them a little bit

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're expecting far too much of the writers, considering Hickman's big status quo shifting change that everyone ate up with a shovel was reusing Genosha/Providence/Utopia but giving the X-men plot armor for a few years.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            He also made them team up with all the villains and not just Magneto because he loves it when superheroes are morally compromised, like in the lead-up to Secret Wars.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        There needs to be a balance of good times to bad. Recent Marvel is moronic and doesn't understand that people want a Spiderman that loses some AND wins some (in personal life and super fights), instead of just being an unlikable, eternally shit upon sad sack. Or god help us, that fricking Spiderverse crap that literally said that the entire fabric of reality is apparently built around Spiderman and the people he know having shitty lives

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Spider-Man is their top selling book (likely because of speculators and collectors) so they have no reason to care at the moment.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        And has unhappy been selling?
        They've squeezed too much water out of the rock of misery and people don't give a shit anymore.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Mutant safe haven
      >Genosha
      Even at its peak, this one time all mutants on Earth got depowered, it broke into civil war. Later on Magneto decided to go nuts and use the mutants to declare war or something. Guess it was always uneasy at best.

      Also, the Xavier manor was also a supposed safe haven, and Asteroid M, etc...

      >Why can't we have Mutants having a thriving successful culture while being portrayed as unambiguously heroic?
      They're really just humans fromall over the world with extra powers. A "culture" never made sense.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They're really just humans fromall over the world with extra powers. A "culture" never made sense.
        This is especially egregious, because there's no reason for anyone from such disparate cultures to just drop everything they grew up into for the sake of "mutant solidarity" or whatever. Israeli and Palestinian mutants still would have beef, racial supremacists of all stripes will carry on their shit against each other, because even if they're still muties, they're still white/black/asian/etc. muties that hate any race that isn't theirs, not to mention all of them would be carrying the baggage of their own native cultures, so especially conservative mutants could look at the shit going on in Krakoa with disgust.

        It was as dumb as that Back to Wakanda thing they had going on in Sam's Captain America book, because there's no connecting identity with black Americans and Wakandans aside from the fact that they share ancestry on the same frickhueg continent, and Wakandans were established xenophobic buttholes that already want little to do with other sub-Saharan Africans, much less offshoots from a whole ocean away.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          least the Back to wakanda stuff works better as political allegory for the back to africa movement and economic migration than Krakoa does with Ethnonationalism

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not that I'm ignorant of the allegory, the main issue with the Back to Wakanda movement is that Wakanda is notoriously xenophobic, even when T'Challa was in charge and trying to relax those sentiments. It is the fact that the idea that a bunch of American mixed-blood blacks with ancestry tied to non-Wakandan African cultures could dare insert themselves so casually should have been way too much for even the most progressive Wakandans to consider.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >there's no connecting identity with black Americans and Wakandans
          You may be more right than you know. One of the plot points in the early Black Panther comics was that T'Challa brings an american black girlfriend and she's received with a degree of prejudice.
          Of course modern Marvel wouldn't lean into that, specially the MCU lol.
          >Wakandans were established xenophobic buttholes that already want little to do with other sub-Saharan Africans
          That doesn't make them buttholes, at least they weren't warring with other tribes and taking slaves or using child soldiers like several of them. If that's a thing in Marvel, anyway.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            that was in Jungle Action were Wakanda was allowed to be backwards and technologically regressive thanks to being an isolationist nation that had only recently come out of it's self imposed isolation with modern/futurist tech being only a recent that T'challa brought to the country like meiji era japan

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yup

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're ignoring intersectionalism

          For example, people of any race and nationality can be queer but they still come together under the banner of pride. Sure there are going to be internal tensions between queer people of different backgrounds but there is still that common cause.

          Same for class solidarity in labor unions . Or multiracial disability rights groups.

          Or hell , religions. At various points in time faiths have openly accepted people of various backgrounds under a common banner. (This was actually a big debate in Early Christianity)

          Tldr: The real world has multiple examples of cultures/organizations/movements where the people are made up of different nationalities and races.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You're ignoring intersectionalism
            No, I'm not. There's intersectional shit going on, but this is an extreme case that was never covered in any meaningful way.
            >For example, people of any race and nationality can be queer but they still come together under the banner of pride. Sure there are going to be internal tensions between queer people of different backgrounds but there is still that common cause.
            Oh please, even under the pretense of LGBT pride, there are still plenty of people within those groups that hate each other, gays that hate lesbians, lesbians that hate gays, both hating bisexuals, and not a small amount of all of them being intolerant or discomforted with the new kid in the group, transsexuals.
            >Same for class solidarity in labor unions
            Plenty of labor unions were notoriously racist. Companies were hiring black and foreign workers in an attempt to offset strikes, and plenty got beaten and killed for it.
            >Or multiracial disability rights groups.
            Oh boy, let's not get into the "my disability is not a disability and it shouldn't be treated as such" subgroups.
            >Or hell , religions. At various points in time faiths have openly accepted people of various backgrounds under a common banner.
            Ignoring the various points in time where religions have brought people AGAINST each other in a super violent fashion.
            >The real world has multiple examples of cultures/organizations/movements where the people are made up of different nationalities and races.
            Usually after periods of great disunity, war, and violence, and even then it was never ever a guarantee. The biggest issue with Krakoa is that those different people took to it like it was nothing. Hell, not even counting preexisting conflicts, some of the biggest divides should have come from mutants who had no powers, those with shit powers, those with good powers, along with those who passed for regular humans, those who looked like Star Trek aliens, and those that looked like Star Wars aliens.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              I agree that tension within multiracial and ethnic social movements and groups exist. I literally brought up an example from early Christianity.

              I am arguing against the claim that a multiethnic and multinational group existing at all in the first place is unrealistic.

              The fact that the intersectional tension hasn't shown up in X-Men I think is a product of the fact that, despite being about minorities, most X-Men books are written by white men with little to no direct connection to being an opressed group.

              I don't think it is a coincidence that the two writers who injected the most on-point stories about mutants being opressed were israeli and non-binary.

              I wish Dwayne McDuffie was alive, I think his take on X-Men would be pretty kino .

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Intersectionalism is bullshit of the highest order and used to keep down the actual oppressed IE the working class and keep marginalized groups from being able to get rid of the toxic elements supported by the elites who want to legalize pedophilia, make it legal to discriminate against white men, and kill gays.

            Intersectionalism leads to shit like women/lesbians being forced to submit sexually to trans incels, white men being banned from work in favor of incompetent people of color/women who end up getting people killed, pedophiles getting away with their crimes/promoting their perversions in public, and working class people being told their suffering "isn't real" and being told "learn to code" when the elites decide to destroy their lives by shutting down industries that employ working class folk. Oh and giving Muslims card blanch to murder gay people in the Middle East.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Serious answer, they're too boring when they have that.

      X-Men are fun when they're outcasts, the misfits, but strive to be included among humans, the ones that hate them.

      The separatist route isn't interesting, unless they start behaving like the Inhumans, and so very close to villains.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I guess I just find something very unsettling about the overall message of X-Men being

        "The opressed will always be opressed, there is no end to your suffering, you can never have peace or even incremental gains, and even if you did you would be evil for doing so and it will all be taken away from you."

        Like Mutants are supposed to be Marvel's minority metaphor but they haven't had something as basic as a Civil Rights Act, or Roe v Wade or Brown vs the Board of Education or Loving vs Virginia or Obergefell vs Hodges or a 14th Amendment moment. It can't ALL be doom and gloom. Even Suffering-Man had a happy marriage for a while.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Part of the problem is that in the Marvel universe it's already a legal quagmire deciding where your average superhero lies in terms of "superhuman", let alone something like the x-gene mutation that's in every single person just with a deviation in whether it's activated or not. And it's not like the X-men themselves really tried to speak in their own defense publicly, the only real spokesperson they had was Xavier whose defenses amounted to "Now, I'm totally not a mutant, cause we all know mutants are just a theory, BUT IF THEY WERE A THING..."

          Ironically, Reed Richards did far more for mutant rights than the X-men ever did when he opposed Congress in opening up a Superhuman Registration Act by demonstrating that the law's inability to properly define what a superhuman is could only lead to a lot more harm than good, particularly since he was able to provide a reasonable definition and subsequently nail several congressmen as "superhuman" by fulfilling the conditions of that definition. So if they had worked to get more actual superheroes on their side willing to hit the books in their defense, the X-men probably would already be living in a world that at least TOLERATED mutants if not outright accepted them by now.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >et alone something like the x-gene mutation that's in every single person
            It's not as of AXE.

            >Ironically, Reed Richards did far more for mutant rights than the X-men ever did
            Reed coexisted with the mutant registration act for years and was on the side of the state during the SRA. No.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, you wanker, and everyone was questioning the frick out of why Reed of all people would do a complete 180 on his position when Civil War came about, but we know that when it comes to Mark Millar he could care less about continuity or logic if he's got a issue he wants to wank

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Part of the problem is that in the Marvel universe it's already a legal quagmire deciding where your average superhero lies in terms of "superhuman", let alone something like the x-gene mutation that's in every single person just with a deviation in whether it's activated or not. And it's not like the X-men themselves really tried to speak in their own defense publicly, the only real spokesperson they had was Xavier whose defenses amounted to "Now, I'm totally not a mutant, cause we all know mutants are just a theory, BUT IF THEY WERE A THING..."

              Ironically, Reed Richards did far more for mutant rights than the X-men ever did when he opposed Congress in opening up a Superhuman Registration Act by demonstrating that the law's inability to properly define what a superhuman is could only lead to a lot more harm than good, particularly since he was able to provide a reasonable definition and subsequently nail several congressmen as "superhuman" by fulfilling the conditions of that definition. So if they had worked to get more actual superheroes on their side willing to hit the books in their defense, the X-men probably would already be living in a world that at least TOLERATED mutants if not outright accepted them by now.

              Actually it's not even before that wasn't it? They had to test people in Genosha precisely because not everyone had inactive x-genes.

              I don't know where people get this EVERYONE HAS AN X-GENE bullshit. They don't.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Much as I'd love to be a little shit to point out that everyone does have an x-gene, I'm pretty sure that the main thing is that it's been pounded in by decades of Sentinels and Cerebro brainscans of how essentially every modern man, woman, and child are carriers for the genetics that should determine whether or not you activate a mutant ability by puberty, and the primary determining factor is whether or not it's dominant or recessive. It's been the attempts to retcon shit like changelings or AXE dragging in the Deviants into the mix that mean nobody knows what the frick is going on with the x-mutants at this point. And hell, Genosha's whole thing was that they imported slaves whose x-genes they could "activate" like a switch they could flip, so not like they help either.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the X-men probably would already be living in a world that at least TOLERATED mutants if not outright accepted them by now.

            I think the world does tolerate them. Or rather Mutants in the Marvel U are about on the level of queer people or maybe Black people (probably a bit more)

            Like you probably have average Joe's being like "I don't have a problem with mutants, I even like a few of them" but they also would vote for a registration act.
            And then conservative types would probably be pushing DeSantis/Heritage Foundation esque anti mutant laws in specific states.

            And then in various countries you would have outright ongoing mutant genocide.

            I guess my issue with X-Men has Marvel taking the aesthetics and thematics of irl civil rights movements but rarely engaged with them.

            Krakoa was the closest and it just ends with "They all die and they deserved it"

            If they really wanted to be on theme they would have Krakoa be a Haiti or Lumumba Republic of Congo type scenario where an opressed group self determines and then is brought down by Western powers fearing a threat .

            Like say the CIA backing one faction of Mutants that want to rule because they have "better powers" and triggering a civil war. Or trying to get a Shah of Iran type figure installed who would listen to their influence.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              My general impression is that as far as tolerating goes, you have to clarify if you're talking about the X-men or the mutant populace as a whole. Cause the general impression I got was that up to the 80s and 90s, people were a lot more chill with both the X-men and mutants since the efforts by bigots to drive them into the dirt were obviously well past inhumane and aside from scares like the Legacy virus, none of the mutants were deadly on a societal level that weren't also just plain supervillains in general. It's into the 00's and '10's that people started to get really fearful due to the X-men being a lot more buddy-buddy with people like Emma Frost and Magneto, and the mutant populations kept surging and then shrinking that nobody knew what was going on with the mutant populations anymore. Then again, the Marvel universe seemed to basically get a lot more spooky and terrifying to the average citizen near the end of the 90's and start of the 00's, so that was probably more of a factor if anything.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                You know, overall I don't think I would be more concerned with the mutants than with all the other crazy shit happening all the time. Hell, I would just try to buy something from Stark Industries. For personnal protection of course.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've said many times that I wouldn't give a shit about a guy who can move metal with his mind or make copies of himself. I'd just be jealous of their neat powers and hire them to do construction work. I'd fear mindrapists like Xavier and be wearing a tinfoil hat 24/7 just to keep some crooked psychic from mindraping me into robbing a bank for him. Beyond that I'd be fricking terrified whenever some world-leader is shown in public and not wearing one of Mag's helmets, because that would mean that a single rogue mindrapist could insert some brain control trigger that makes them launch nukes at whatever country the crazy mindrapist wants them to. Or they could just be stealing state secrets, ratting out spies or holding back progress.

                You just can't fricking trust psychics, whether they're a mutant or got it from some other source. I'd be protesting in front of the white house with signs about how we must join forces with mutants and mutates etc to have them help us remove the powers of psychics before they're old enough to use their powers on other people, because there's really no sin greater than mindrape, reducing a sentient being into a toy to be programmed. Frick that creepy bald butthole in the wheelchair. I just KNOW he's done some seedy shit and then made everyone forget about it.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                But anon....are you sure your not doing exactly what he ordered to right now ?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only way to be safe is to kill him and see if a fog rises.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            God Reed is so cool.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because being a persecuted minority is the Mutants' story. You can have temporary breaks from that, or twists on the concept, etc., but eventually you'll get back to base.

      Same reason Hulk will never permanently control his transformation or make peace with his inner demons. Same reason Spidey will never permanently achieve success in relationships and work.
      And so on.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Providence really was the best idea for a mutant nation.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        A regular nation?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Even Cable knows that all mutant nations devolves into Mutants becoming what they despise.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            or that neither his nor bishop's timeline ever had records of krakoa

  41. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >deathtoll

    x-men were dead the moment writers started forcing rightclops, certainly by the time krakoa started

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >forcing rightclops

      Is this a mirror universe thread or something

      The "CYCLOPS IS WORSE THAN HITLER!!!" shit was absolutely embarrassing and they went back to Rightclops because that's what actually resonated with readers

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        and then we got krakoa, a fascist ethnostate.

        let me know when you catch up since you're still very far behind on what has happened

  42. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Good
    Gambit lived, he's always been my favorite
    >Bad
    Gambit lived and as such, will probably get written like dogshit in due time

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you read the Rogue and Gambit mini?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not yet, no. But I thought his solo last year was pretty solid, had a lot of cute moments with him and Storm

  43. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not enough.

  44. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    So Sinister was right?

  45. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder all this hackneyed race war allegory crap took root from Smiling Stan Lee being too lazy to give every character an origin story for their superpowers.

  46. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing to see even Juggernaut drawn with gaylips. Marvel must burn

  47. 9 months ago
    First two

    Can we kill Moira and reboot this shit?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Moira's dead. The Moira who exists now is an AI with all her memories.

      • 9 months ago
        First two

        And why the world didnt reboot?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mystique shot her with a gun that turns mutant into human made by Forge.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a gun, Frank. A Gun that shoots mutie-vaccines.

          • 9 months ago
            First two

            Oh no we are trapped in shit

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        The real moira is dead and possibly in hell, the moira we hve now is a robotic clone with her memories made by mr sinister

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sinister has nothing do with Moirabot, this is a plan she put into action before she died. All his clones were depowered and destroyed.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can't. Mystique depowered Moira and the save scum machine Sinister made with clones of Moria got bricked bringing Rasputin into the past by future Moira and Mother Righteous to stop Sins of Sinister.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        If the 92 cartoon final season they are workin on becomes a success, i expect old moira and magneto back, as a non moronic xavier.

        >Hate Jub, Hate Daz
        Trully the king of SHIT TASTES

        The ones that got killed are false clones of the real ones who died a long time ago.
        Literal GOYIMS

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >final season
          Season 5 was a final season. 97 is a revival with a "two season" order.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The ones that got killed are false clones of the real ones who died a long time ago.
          Time for OUR HERO to step up to the task once more

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            God, I'm desperate for them to send him back in time and undo all this shit.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah have Jean and Scott's trio of time traveling super psychic kids fix everything.

  48. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't Dazzler and Cannonball both immortal?

    • 9 months ago
      First two

      Also Iceman is too

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      External Sam and Immortal Alison both got swept under the rug decades ago.

  49. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    So whatever happened the the whole "Machines tell man and mutant both to frick off" thing? I thought Nimrod was done with Orchis?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, the X-office needs an actual antagonist that isn't just the mutants backstabbing each other, so they left Nimrod and Omega Sentinel in charge of Orchis with the idea that they're just using the squishies to do their dirty work until they've won at which point they'll turn around and start killing all humans.

  50. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who murdered Jubilee's hair?

  51. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Doom was right all along.

    Xavier and the rest of the homosexuals on that island allowed the circumstances for Orchis and company to do this.

    YOU ALLOWED SINISTER ON THE FRICKING COUNCIL.
    And don't gimme that "muh database". It's Essex for gods sake.

    This issue is satisfying, but at the same time I really wish it wasn't as forced as it was.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      And i just realized this image of Doom might have an error.

      Isn't his eyes supposed to be brown/hazel?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick you Doom, I hate when you have a point.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doom always has a point. In fact, doom has ALL of the points.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look at this fricking face. Think about the size of the ego that someone would have to have to make this face after what Doom said.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even Namor was calling Chuck on his bullshit

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Aaaah you think racism is your ally. But you merely adopted mutant suprematism, I was born in it, molded by it. I didnt' spare a human until I was already a grown man.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      What Wanda did for them already render Mr. Sinister obsolete.

  52. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is juggernaut a mutant now

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honorary one.

  53. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn they really have been making Prodigy look more fruity in ever panel he appears in huh?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s a nice contrast to manly Synch.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mean manly Frenzy?

  54. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jubilee has become my favorite mutant. Out of all the crap that the writers come up with to happen, Jubes remains the more herself. All the X-Men have archetypes, but Jubes is still the accidental badass arcade girl who's got all the cool stuff and is willing to share. What do the other X-men have? Screwed up pathos, PTSD, and disasters happening. Nothing that you'd want to be there with them for.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      What about her baby?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        the rape baby should also be retconned to and timelapse the xmen back to the 92 TAS period

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          We're going to have to go back to that status quo for MCU synergy. Things are going to get reset hard soon.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hence why the Supernatural shit i am schizoing of late.
            it isn't going to be the X-men in general, is HARD Reset part 2.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I dunno about that, the MCU usually focuses on post-2000 shit, as recent as possible. Wouldn't be surprised if they were already thinking about "AvX: THE MOVIE", even though they got rid of the Avengers people cared about.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              I think X-Men will be an exception to that. Later shit for X-Men is really convoluted I don't think they'll touch it out the gate. AvX is certainly going to happen sooner rather than later, but our first X-Men movie will be as simple as possible. Especially if they don't want to waste characters out the gate. I think we're very likely to see members of the O5 mixed with the Giant Sized team to form a very young group of characters doing what the general public expects the X-Men to do: Live in a mansion in upstate New York that also doubles as a school. Marvel will play it safe for X-Men they will not frick up a golden cow that could be a cinematic universe in and of itself.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well there is the Xmen show coming out.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                A sequel to the 90s cartoon, aka the safest thing Marvel Studios could have done with the property. Bank on the success of a beloved, nostalgic cartoon that leans heavily on the aesthetics of the 90s era instead of launching a new show.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Given the whole "population 0" page, I can only assume that Shogo gets killed too somehow. As well as the "immortality machine" mutants.
        It's too bad that Shogo is Jubilee's "not-hers" baby, when it could have been anything from a baby Rachael to the reincarnation of Jean Grey. And then they went and did the Krakoa island crazyness, which undoes the need for a Sinister-created baby Jean. Rachael was a "whatever of future past" character who stayed in the past, so she had to get born someday.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rachel will never get born in 616, she's an anomaly, a rare singular existence in the multiverse.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Eh it's not like they're following any rules.
            But yeah, she was the Phoenix's daughter, and that ship has sailed, too.

  55. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this Krakoa shit over now? I have no idea what's going these days, I lost all interest in the X-Men the moment Hickman got within 100 miles of them

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is over anon.
      Shit made Mutant Massacre and M-Day look like a walk in the park

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is this Krakoa shit over now? I have no idea what's going these days, I lost all interest in the X-Men the moment Hickman got within 100 miles of them

        It's not over dummies. The Fall of X books will ship through the end of the year. Maybe after that there will be a finale book, but we don't even know. Don't expect a real new direction until maybe next spring.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's only the start of the final act.

  56. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >franchise full of gays, nignogs, fat c**ts, ugly rainbow hair, fem versions of establish heroes, shitty segregationist politics, cringey bullshit such as pic related, awful, AWFUL plot developments and "grey" character writing that reeks of Game of Thrones copycat syndrome
    Frick this garbage straight to hell. I hope Kevin Feige and CB Cebulski both suffer painful heart attacks and I hope Marvel completely tanks. They deserve it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      aren’t famous celebrities invited to every gala?
      which ones died?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sinead O'connor.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        There was an Irish ambassador that spoke up and was murdered that wa drawn to look like comic artist Declan Shalvey

  57. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey a question, there's the whole thing with the supposed murders that were pinned on Kurt, causing him to leave Krakoa. They mentioned them at the end of Sons of X, but has anything else been said or shown about them in any other books?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      They were on panel in that one shot.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh shit, you're right. Now I feel moronic.

  58. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/checklist-for-x-mens-the-fall-of-x-from-marvel-in-august-2023/

  59. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have not kept up with the comics in years and learned of whatever happened with the x-men as I pass through Cinemaphile just lurking by...
    So if I get this correctly:

    Krakoa is a magical living island, kaiju thingy where the X-men decided to lived at after Dr. Moira told Xavier and Magneto she essentially had a bad dream (muties killed and bad ends on every reality or timeline she lived).
    Krakoa for some reason allows dead mutants to come back to life, soul and all, no clones or anything like that, you can pluck them from the afterlife just like that.
    Krakoa is formed by every red flag.
    Hickman is told "that will do pig" and he is not allowed to wrap up his own run.
    A bunch of stupid degeneracy happens in how many years? How old old is this Krakoa schtick? 4? 5 years of this crap? I could swear it started in 2017...anyhow.
    Fast Forward...

    Nimrod can just drop in like that.
    No one can stop this very stoppable fricking robot.
    Xavier tells everyone to go through the gates of krakoa that have been tampered with to teleport everyone into the blender dimension, rick and morty style.
    Only the popular mutants survive.
    and this is how we get the reboot for the MCU movies.

    Is that correct?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aside from the facetiousness, picrel

      Only notes are that Nimrod dropped in on a different island they have for the galas, not onto Krakoa, and the millions of mutants are most certainly not dead, Xavier just thinks that. They're probably in other realms (some are confirmed to be in one of the Thor realms) or captured by Mother Righteous on this piece of Krakoa she stole with magic.

  60. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's comics so they're all coming back eventually and yet a part of me wishes Gwen were actually dead so people that aren't Hastings could stop writing her

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gwenpool would probably just unwrite herself being a mutant as soon as it became apparent that yet another genosha was happening anyway

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gwen's powers only work when she's actually drawn. No off-screen retcons allowed.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          What about an on-screen retcon?
          >mass funeral for all the dead mutants
          >eulogy montage
          >someone steps up to talk about Gwen
          >flashback panel
          >she jumps out of it like nothing happened
          >doesn't even know anything went wrong since she wasn't drawn to experience it
          >suddenly standing in the middle of a giant wake
          Just imagine the kinography.

  61. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Krakoa was always a terrible idea that could only ever end terribly

  62. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    In a TV show, this would all be a really big deal. In comics, it doesn't mean anything, even to the few fans that are left. Decades of weak editorial allowing people to come in and do whatever they wanted no matter how stupid have in turn necessitated decades of retcons to get the IP back into a usable state, and created an environment where "must-read" doesn't exist, because nothing actually matters. Even someone who is a big enough X-Men fan and comic fan to be on the comic book Cinemaphile and posting in this thread couldn't care less, because none of it means anything. And the writing is so bad, and the idea so stupid, that the only thing worse would be if it actually did mean something, and all this garbage really stuck.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hate that he's right, but he's right.
      The only interesting things for this isn't how rich-idiot the x-men are being, but how they'll go about losing an entire island paradise and go back to the School for Gifted mutants. That, and the few characters worth following, like Jubilee and Sinister.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only read this to make sure my waifu didn't die. Now that I know she didn't even appear I don't give a frick about any of it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's always been especially bad for the X-Men. Even in the 80s and 90s characters were cracking jokes about X-Men not staying dead. DC escaped this for a good while since they let big name heroes like Oliver Queen, Hal Jordan, and Barry Allen stay dead for quite a long period of time but sadly those days are gone. That said, still not as bad as Marvel. Marvel kills characters and announces their fricking return a week later.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >In a TV show, this would all be a really big deal
      More than 35% of the X-Men were dead before Krakoa started. It don't matter. None of this matters.

  63. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The most tedious thing about this is the minute Scott said he couldn't feel his legs I just sighed and figured oh he's the leader in a wheelchair now huh

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. Considering the FCBD issue with the actual fight came out so long ago, and in it we saw the new Cap Krakoa beat the shit out of him and throw him out of the treehouse, I thought he was gonna die for sure.
      Now turns out he's alive and oooh yeah they're turning him into Xavier.

      I wonder what musical chair is Xavier gonna take. Mags'? Paco?

  64. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    nice thread

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