What if Season 2 got canceled? How would you feel?
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unsurprised
Sad that the M&Ms show was taken out because of the gay owl and his b***h.
Viv sold us on the pilot but then made the actual show a gay owl soap opera
Gay Owl soap opera is better
have a nice day it is shit now
Moxxie is only good for porn
Millie will never get her own episode
Bullshit. It's excellent.
Yes
I'd consider it a mercy killing given the way season 2 is going.
Wasted trips.
>I'd consider it a mercy killing given the way season 2 is going.
Really?
Wasted trips, anon said, as he casually wielded his quads.
It's the only thing that can kill trips, he had to use his power to strike down that other anon
Pure BS. You either just hate western animation or have a hatred of gays that is beyond the norm.
Not person you responded to but totally homophobic to the point of throwing them into nuclear reactors despite me liking Fizzaroli, Asmodeus and Angel Dust. It definitely is not Stolas having his balls removed since episode 6 and Blitzo needing a tard-wrangler/straight man that hates his guts with mutual feelings but is contractually bound to work with him.
I just don't relate. I like this series a lot and I don't like many things in this world lol.
>You say (you) made this machine that automatically prints (you)s? Astounding.
>What did you say it cost you? Only your dignity and legitimacy, of course!
Stolitzbros we've been eating good, you think viv-chan will make the rest of the season about them?
I'd even accept the gay soap opera if the show didn't try to suddenly course correct from Stolas being a total frick up and instead trying to say him cheating was totally fine and everything he ever did bad was other people's fault, like his dad.
The Blitzo and Stolas stuff isn't so bad but it does suck the other aspects of the show get less attention.
It's amazing how unimportant Moxxie and Millie are in the grand scheme of things despite being the most universally loved characters in the show.
M&M appear in almost every episode and the show literally wouldn’t exist without Blitzo and Stolas’ relationship. It’s literally what keeps IMP running.
>Blitzo and Stolas’ relationship. It’s literally what keeps IMP running.
Shit, guess we need 100 more episodes of Blitzo fricking Stolas in the ass.
I think you and a lot of the people on this site are mad that Stolitz turned out to be more than a running gag you’d see in a Seth McFarlane work and was treated like an actual complex relationship between two queer characters.
I think you're using queer as a shield for criticism of a poorly executed bait-and-switch that turns the hitman work comedy into a underwhelming telenovela.
The last episode we got was about Loona and Octavia and their relationship with their "dad"/dad. Next episode is about M&M. I don't see what's so bad, the episode we just got was excellent IMO.
Can't tell if honest shilling or trolling.
No, I'm mad that we STILL don't have any character development for Millie.
She's already perfect, I just want to see her do more shit.
Queers are insufferable
>Complex relationship
Fujos have NO brain and NO taste.
I'm fine with Stolitz but this was supposed to be a dark comedy assassin series and now it's a soap opera that asks you to consider feelings of psychos from Hell. It's like if Invader Zim suddenly turned into Descendants of Darkness.
You summed up my feelings on this show very well.
Yes.
How does it feel knowing you have objectively shit taste based on spite and not on quality?
I wouldn't know about that, but I does feel amazing to be getting more of exactly what I want with this show, ngl.
Pretty good bait, ngl.
Yeah I'm really enjoying this series. I'm not into gays either, but tbh I don't mind this coz they're demons (gayness is prevalent in Hell; makes sense based on Bible lore, you see?)
Depressed
Why is there such a long ass hiatus anyhow?
My guess? The crew is self destructing and the last 2 episodes were barely even capable of getting done.
They release a new episode whenever one is finished
It’s an indie production supported by patreon and merch sales and not financially supported by a streaming service or network. And they upload once an episode is completely done I guess because if they waited until they completed all the episodes people would be waiting even longer.
They realized they wrote themselves into a corner where they completely changed Stolas's arc from one episode to another.
Brandon is still doing shit on his own channel and for better and certainly for worse he is one of the big boys involved in making it. My guess though is that with Hazbin coming out in the summer there’s a lot more focus on that now. And who knows, maybe they’re redoing the rest of season 2 to reign things in a bit. Yeah, I’m coping, whatever. I just want M&M to get more love and turn down the shitty self destructive gay father drama.
You know what? You all are going to hate me for this, but I think I'm going to say it.
I don't hate the self destructive gay-ass drama
I just want less of it, and have it be less in your face.
Stolas was such a good idea. He represents the longing to return to a childlike innocence, imo. This was a great idea, because we don't really see alot of innocence in the show, and yet, there he is.
But they corrupted him.
I don’t hate it either, it had a good element to it at first. But now Stolas is the male equivalent of a yasss queen who can do no wrong despite being a terrible person and Stella has the dimensions of a 2x4. They just need to tone that way back.
t. the guy you replied to
I don’t mind the drama and I don’t mind Stella’s current character because she can still be a great villain. I do worry about the angst becoming too much. There should a good balance.
Enough with honest opinions about the show
Who is the best characters in the vivzieverse?
No contest.
I love the idea that moxxie gets absolutely wrecked from receiving this fan mail
Fun but flawed
Moxxie
MacKenzie
Millie. Love southern girls
What do you think of her mom?
NTA, but 100% would.
Same.
Millie is about 60% Ass. Her Mom has that ratio but also at least a good 30% tit.
Millie had to get em' from somewhere.
She should have had a classical southern accent rather than a country one. It woukd have been better and sexier.
She's an honest to god blue collar country girl, not some belle trying to imitate English gentry.
Millie is very sweet.
For someone who grew up in a family full of dicks she is surprisingly kind. They should do a millie episode, where they show why Millie is so kind.
Both of you are based.
You just posted her.
I like stolas 🙂
I like Stolas a lot when he's allowed to be more flawed
M and M are genuinely cute, but Millie really needs some individual character focus.
Unironically "best girl" in the show.
He’s such a pretty man how does he do it
Calm down, Octavia
I can like him being sweet with his daughter but I would have liked to keep his sheer depravity along side it. It is just a waste of character that they have potential to give him the likable depth but they keep picking the weirdest things to flesh out.
Stella of course.
Cancelled by who?
It happened to Hanazuki.
I got a hanazuki plushie at ollies which is a liquidator around here
Also i came on a plastic doll of her ingot off of amazon
Are you the anon that posted the... hot glue pic? If so I am honored to meet you.
Thanks youngin, i did that one years ago and im still proud of it. If you ever wanna chat we can and trade prevrsions with one another. You got a discord or instagram or something sport?
Light fireworks and mark the date it was announced on all of my future calendars.
Guys, imagine if Chaz ISN'T Moxxie's ex-boyfriend.
Why do we need a story/episode that represents Moxxie being a bisexual rather it just being a character fact or something we learn in a passing line or joke? It’s also incouraging StrikerxMoxxur shippers since he looks so much like him
Because Viv wants to explore toxic relationships YET AGAIN
And obviously they can't do that with Moxxie and Millie. So Viv thinks, "Hmmmm...yeah let's give Mox a toxic ex"
Well cuckquean Millie is a true thing if that’s the case. Why must every relationship be toxic if M&M was cheered by fans and the show itself to be very passionate and healthy and into each other only to throw it away?
I enjoy Striker, so I enjoy MoxxiexStriker alot but the new looks so much like him I can’t even tell if it was intentional or more likely just repetitive drawing design. Also that ship was good because it was enemies to lovers and Moxxie realizing he enjoyed be dominated by a more powerful man, and therefore had surpressed or unknown homosexual feelings.
>It’s also incouraging StrikerxMoxxur shippers since he looks so much like him
frick that accept only the genuine article not this bootleg bullshit
Yeah. Viv seems to treat sexuality as something extremely important that needs to have entire episode or episodes dedicated to it instead of being just a trait of a character.
Yes and it’s annoying. I feels like she wants them to have these major arcs about being gay or bi but since alot of the cast already have had half an episode about being gay it’s tiring. Must a third of a season have to basically boil down to ‘they’re gay, and it’s okay, loving, and cute.’.
Whenever a show has a married couple or two people dating and has one of the partners' ex trying to get them back, it's always the woman with an ex boyfriend who was abusive or manipulative or something. This show having it be the guy in the relationship having an abusive ex boyfriend is a neat twist I guess, but it's so weird to think about. Why is Moxxie's ex a guy specifically and not a woman? Seeing a woman get jealous of her husband's ex boyfriend is such an unusual concept for me to grasp. It'd be like me dating a woman and getting jealous of her hanging out with her ex girlfriend. Just weird to think about since people in hetero relationshps don't date people of the same sex.
It'll be interesting to see if it's done well. Which it almost certainly will be because this ain't no corporate dogshit.
Good chance to see some more character exploration of Millie.
I hope he’s not abusive whatsoever and it just never worked out.
Considering he was designed to look like he eats puppies for breakfast, I doubt that's the case.
>designed to look like he eats puppies for breakfast
Is that not every character in the show?
Are they really making this character JUST to prove that Moxxie is bi?
Seems like it.
It’s unreal. There’s a chance it’s for something else but it’s most likely for the bi gay thing.
If it's not for the gay thing. It's for the "Toxic Relationship" thing. Which appears to be the common theme of this show.
Frick this.
Cuckquean Millie x Moxxie x Loona is the way.
Millie is now the imp of cuckqueaning in semi-canon now. How many times will her husband get fricked by other people until she either puts her foot down or enjoys it.
Imagine if Chaz is his ex-boyfriend but Moxxie was the top in the relationship.
Everyone ITT is just mad Millie won't say "come on mister" then pick them up and carry them off. Hot dominant girl for me when?
LOL. Would be amusing indeed...
I'd laugh at my brother because he loves this show, and his despair amuses me
POST M&M
Yeah
Same
Happy, season 2 has a been a massive step down from the first season. And judging by the leaks, it's going to get worse.
Honestly, yeah all the episodes have been massive cringe fests. The genuine moments in the show are ruined by Brandon’s self insert bullshit or le random humour. The only reason I watch is anymore is for M&M
Seriously is there any reason he looks so much like Striker? IS he fricking Striker in disguise?
Striker is an Imp hybrid and it's assumed his other half is whatever race Chaz is
Huh. I always thought he was a snake demon or something
Chaz muh balls
Furious.
Why is her hair under her eyeball
Lots of little drawing inconsistancies in this series. Her eyes change colour over a few seconds in the pilot episode.
that's why It's a pilot and not an actual part of the series
Anime trope
I hate it
Could pic related defeat Stolas?
Yes. He could. And then he would wax poetic about it for an hour after.
>"My word, what ghastly thing are you little blue one?"
>"Ghastly? I thought my brothers were grotesque, but even you seem able to prove that Melchiah has something to look down upon."
It be cool if there was someone in helluva boss or hazbin who waxed poetically about stuff
Nice
Best crossover that needs to happen, Kain and Cain need to have a punch up or some drinks together while brutalizing Blitzo and Stolas.
Do we know what Cain looks like?
I'm imagining Stolas attempting to be suave and poetic with Kain, and the next scene is just him chasing Stolas with the Soul Reaver.
I don't know why his father Adam looks and acts like Angel Blitzo and took the job of one of the archangels. So I presume Cain should be a butcher on Earth that looks like Bob Marley or something interesting since he can't grow crops and Bob Marley looks unique.
I think I'll draw Stolas being menaced by Kain sometime. Maybe have Moebius creep out Loona and Millie.
Based anon, do it and post please. I want this show to at least have fans that know what to be funny about and not just swearing.
>Moebius: Stares at Loona and Millie with a creepy Old-Man-Smile.
>Loona and Millie: Disgusted and confused face
You mean like the followers of Moloch? Who practiced literal child sacrifice?
Yeah, real loss of knowledge on that one.
Those weren’t israelites, holy shit you guys are dumb.
I wouldn't care, I don't give a frick about Vivzieshit
>yet he still enters the vivzie thread
I'd be confused, but I'd rather have never wanted to see Child Stolas and Child Blitzo and learning that Blitzo was Stolas' slave playmate, making their relationship as a gay adultery couple even fricking WEIRDER!
Yeah….admittedly that recontextualized everything for the worse
I wouldn't care. I just jack off to Loona, and there's already plenty of art to keep me occupied for years.
I wouldn't.
Nothing of value would be lost
HB is a pointless folly that only exists to make Vizvie’s life harder and make HH take longer to come out
How big is Millie's ass?
At least 60% of a 3-4 foot tall woman's body.
I would feel sad because I really like this show. Although I wish they would not focus on the gay relationships so much and do more "monser of the week" type shenanigans with the human killing stuff. I would like to see more b plots about moxy and milly being an adorable couple and seeing more of Loona either being a badass b***h or seeing her softer side. It would be fun to see more characters to go on wild adventures with them like the bird girl. Or focus in more on the main imp murder crew plus loona. And maybe having some sub plots about whats going on in hell while they are fighting humans or just focus on the main adventure. I do hope they hold off on focusing in on the government stuff. I hope that stuff stays on the back burner for a while.
Could they make him smile?
>Pim tries to help Octavia, thinking that if he can cheer her up it'll transfer over to Stolas, alternatively he tries to convince Stella to move back in with Stolas to save the family.
>Stella ends up falling for him because Pim is a more active and focused person in her life than Stolas ever was.
>Charlie focuses on Stolas, much like how he tried to help Shrimp. Convinces him to exercise, find hobbies to try to get through the pain. Stolas ends up misreading the situation and contemplates cheating on Blitzo with Charlie because Charlie is doing more for his personal life than Blitzo ever tried to do.
>implying he'd end up in bed with Charlie and not Mr. Boss
I have never seen a more disgusting but amusing picture.
i never seen an unfunnier picture before
btw zach was friends with justin roiland, get ready for him to get cancelled soon lol.
Sure, anon.
Zach is also friends with Viv. Imagine if Hazbin ended up on Adult Swim lol
>Zach is also friends with Viv.
Are you serious.
to be fair I think basically all of the well-known youtube animators know of each other and are 'friendly', it doesn't mean they're best buds or anything
Vaggie's original VA works on Oneyplays.
I'd be sad, but not for the reasons you'd think. I'd be sad at the waste of potential and how it never took advantage of it's premise, having chosen to focus solely more on the fricking gay telenovela plot.
This show needs to be about more murdering and less soap opera drama. It's a show themed in Hell; you shouldn't let it get too sappy.
Happy
What ideas for a crossover episode of smiling friends and helluva boss (or hazbin) do you have
AI is coming a long way
Why is Loona such a bawd for shota wiener?
Why did every latch on to this here? Was there something more ranchy and sick implied with their scene?
The boy pointed at her and then himself, what else could that have meant?
Maybe I should rewatch it. I know what the scene was. Maybe it’s not clicking or I’m not sick thinking to imply that. Would Viz even imply something that dirty?
>Would Viz even imply something that dirty?
Not openly, but the show IS about horny demons so at worst she implies it subconsciously.
He wanted her phone, she’s the only one who had one.
The sadism towards Moxxie in this show the more as it goes on just becomes more tedious and irritating than funny.
And it's not even that much of a secret what she is doing. Oh look, the only likeable person is the most abused because Hell, but novelty of it runs up when the likeable character is the ONLY one who gets shit on so much and you genuinely do not allow him to have a way to fight back. People are going to get tired of an actually nice character getting shit on without any sort of pay off.
Agreed. I myself when writing whether it be straight or homosexual relationship I do not linger on it being either of those which I think is better way to go about it. It makes little difference what gender both sides are and more about how their personalities clash (which is also why I prefer a slow burn kind of stories as well). All the while Viv seems to have VERY little patience and doesn't bother building a relationship between characters in a way that doesn't feel shoehorned.
>doesn’t bother building a relationship between characters in a way that doesn’t feel shoehorned
Yeah people say they like M&M but there’s only showing how lovey-dovey they are without anything else about why they love each other so. One issue is that started out/were shown that way. Maybe she thought it would be cheesy to write about a generic love at first sight story but this is as cheesy as we’re not shown the outer layers of the romance or deep look into it. The Striker episode showed a glimpse but that was probably unintentional and the writers added those features as repetition from other series and stories they took from to write it. We just need more about why they love each other, like showings and compliments between them. Them talking deeply and/or passionately about their interests and likings. Even materialistic gift giving. It’s know if Vizzie tries to write like this to add an attempt of depth; she will fail, crash and burn, horrificly, and possibly frick up her couple. It appears she will ruin the look and structure of their relationship in another way.
>the only likeable person is the most abused because Hell
What's unlikable about Millie or Octavia?
>What's unlikable about Millie
Bloodlust.
Octavia is kind of barely in it and I meant from the main cast. And Millie... She is a non character/
Millie’s family have as much character as her, and they were in one episode. Goes to show how one note she is.
season 2 already started though didn't it?
>series can't be cancelled mid season
how... innocent of you anon.
What is the best episode in your honest opinion?
For me it's ep 7 for the musical number alone
As sad as it sounds, episode 2 of season 1 is the best episode.
You got Stolas being both horny and trying to be a dad. Blitzo is trying and failing to keep it professional. M&Ms being a cute couple. No Loona. Funny quick jokes involving the background characters. The setting allows for nearly endless shenanigans. Hell, you even got Millie development with her talking about her family.
It also has the best music. Loo Loo Land and Stolas' Lullaby are literally the two best songs in the show.
I like the second episode best myself as well, but I definitely have a soft spot for episode 6. The CIA morons were funny as frick, Stolas was actually fricking COOL, and Moxxie's Bad Trip was a really cool sequence. It has its downsides for sure (Stolas was definitely a deus ex that came out of nowhere to get out of an unsolvable situation) but overall 2 and 6 are my favorites.
I laughed so hard at the contrast between Moxxie's high-quality, Disney musical style animation during his hallucination while Blitzo's was nightmarish and chaotic. The animation in that episode was actually really fricking cool and Stolas's appearance by possessing that agent was epic
Agents were excruciatingly moronic, maybe if they were pulling a gambit of going to Hell and if they were actually working for another Goetian prince to find blackmail on Stolas that would be more interesting. But taking the Agent Darkbooty and Milkman Conspiricy gag without understanding the context and details that made it work is just moronic. I like IMP dealing with agents and supernatural investigators and it was gorgeously animated, but the writing in that episode was so fricking painful for my ears and brain.
3 for being the horrible fricked up but enticing, sex demons being shameless rapists but they are at least attractive and remorseless about their depravity. Also, human Loona is hot like her hellhound look and Blitzo was being more caring and not trying to frick M&M. It reminded me of Panty and Stocking which is I think inspired the show, it is a shame they don't keep the same tone and writing along with Blitzo completely lacking in charisma despite the show shilling he supposedly does.
The problem with Blitzo is that Viv can only write sassy gay men so that's all he come off as.
It is weird since the three I mentioned at
were sassy but did possess a charm. Maybe they acted like men and the writers weren't sucking them off to how kooky cool they are supposed to be unlike Blitzo who is this weird edgy kooky potential rapist we are supposed to like and identify with allegedly. Fizz being the "always someone better" to Blitzo is needed more than it was with Striker and Moxxie, since Moxxie already gets the shit end by life and Fizz had great lines that have relatability and characterized him. One such line was him quietly mentioning into security com to keep the weirdo away from him which hit all sorts of notes and had a finger on the pulse for humor compared to literally most of what Blitzo says and does throughout the entire show.
I liked that episode too, also because I couldn't get Verosika's 'Bonetown" song out of my head kek
>How would you feel?
Indifferent probably. I like the show more in concept than in execution. Also with how long they take to make episodes, how shaky they usually look and how all over the place the writing can get, it wouldn't be a huge loss.
god I wish I owned them both as pets
they're much shorter than humans so it could work anon
Luv the screen shots from the show
Glad. I've seen industry professionals mentioning how indie projects, even not maliciously, frick the artists because they don't know the pipeline and everybody ends up overworked. One professional politely brought them up just to not mention them as an example of how to run indie animation: https://twitter.com/BrendanBlaber/status/1614016800790052865
Then there are the accusations against Medrano, who suspiciously didn't reply to them with a slander lawsuit.
And in general I found disappointing how a watchable horny gore comedy show turned overnight into a soap opera.
The first episodes had literally no story, it was like Weebls-Stuff or Rathergood shorts from the early 2000s. Still funny just not any plotline... It's not a soap opera now it's just that they're more fleshed out characters rather than props.
>Then there are the accusations against Medrano, who suspiciously didn't reply to them with a slander lawsuit.
Slander lawsuits are expensive and rarely work out well. It’d also look worse on her part to sue everyone talking bad about her. Unironically, it’s better she ignores it
i would feel partly happy because that means they're no longer fricking destroying the decent setting they created in season 1
And then Moxxie became a huge fan of firearms.
Blitzo seriously threatened to rape Moxxie and Millie in the first episode
Don't worry. It's just a silly comic relief moment not meant to be taken seriously or ever brought up again to call Blitzo out on it, because Blitzo is an MC and Brandon voices him so he cannot be called out on being a piece of shit. No. All he should be called out on is being sad and being too quirky.
BTW Captcha for this said "HAXWHY". It's done. It's actually done.
I've heard Cinemaphile say this before, but does Blitzo actually just casually talk about raping or killing Millie and Moxxie? And how do they react? Just laugh it off? That'd be really uncomfortable to tell people in real life, and nobody would ever work with some creep who's threatening to molest them or hurt them. Do the writers brush it off as "they're demons lol" or does that get addressed?
"If you ever pull a stunt like this again, I will frick you and your wife"
And this show keeps on trying to make us believe Moxxie wants to be his friend. No. It is a stretch to want to be an acquaintance of someone who says shit like that to you.
But he does. He loves sir.
And it's awful writing that makes NO sense with how the show even establishes Blitzo's character. Apparently he is meant to be a person who breaks all of his relationships and ends up being alone, but for some God forsaken reason everyone currently around him WANTS to be his friend despite him being a piece of shit and we NEVER see him break relationships on screen. It's contrived bullcrap meant to make Blitzo look as good as possible while also give some illusion of him being a deep, flawed character without actually allowing him to be flawed beyond him crying sometimes and other people saying how flawed he is.
Moxxie is dating a femdom. He's probably into this shit.
I'm thinking the difference is his wife is very likely not inept nor careless about pegging him. Blitzo seems to have about as much capacity for other people's well being as he would take into consideration all of his other relationships. So it is incredibly uncomfortable in the worst ways how he acts with M&M from that point on wards and makes me want Octavia to threaten to chop off his dick when he is taking things too far.
Wow. Let some creep I work with joke about how he wants to frick my ass. He'll get his teeth knocked out. But I bet Millie and Moxxie are written so that they think Blitzo is just being quirky or charming. That'd make my skin crawl someone talking to me like that and expecting me to think he's just being goofy.
With such serious words how can you take it jokingly or humorous.
Writers will find a way... or they will just ignore it and pretend he never said that.
What?
Moxxie is submissive/gets pegged by his wife, bi and at least semi friends with Blitzo in that scene. Part of Moxxie probably liked it.
We need an episode where Moxxie beats the shit out of Blitz finally after all of the shit he's done towards him.
It’s called dark humor, anon. This show is a cartoon dramedy.
Would Stella frick a human?
I don't think birb bagina is designed for (human) benis.
Birbs just sort of rub against each other, like lesbians.
She has breasts Anon
like lesbians
Maybe? You'd have to be of high status and/or be willing and able to kill her husband for her. A human that doesn't look like a deviantart Sinner would probably be a status symbol in Hellish High Society.
>ywn be Stella's trophy husband
Feels bad.
>How would you feel?
Happy. Relived. And probably entertain myself by reading autistics crying about it
Why do I get the feeling Hazbin will be the Cyberpunk 77/Forspoken of western animation
What does that mean?
Meaning after years of hype, it'll be underwhelming garbage when it comes out.
I'm flabbergasted that anyone has expectations for Hazbin to begin with.
I feel like it will be like The Force Awakens where people praise it to high heavens as the “birth of a new indie-dominated era” only for people to start criticizing it once the honeymoon ends.
Everyone who wasn't moronic shat on Force Awakens before it even came out.
It might suck and be underwhelming. If it doesn't have actual stakes occasionally, and a heaven vs. hell arc that's treated seriously. The characters also have to change over the course of the show, not just stay the same as they are.
How many more seasons of non-stop Stolitz pandering will it take before people stop complaining the Stolitz Show has too much Stolitz in it? Will it ever happen?
I assume eventually the audience will move on to other shows, leaving a small group of fujos to jerk off over homosexual Big Bird.
I mean it certainly doesn't help that the finale of season 1 was all about Stolitz leading into a season 2 premiere that was ALSO all about Stolitz and even Octavia and Loona's episode was lowkey co-oped by Stolitz.
I mean shit. I get if you want a canon romance in your show but it feels like we haven't really gotten a BREAK from this shit. The premise wasn't even about them in the pilot, Stolas had like maybe two minutes of screentime if I'm being generous.
Where did Viz even get the idea to give the cast specific accents? I know it’s odd to ask this but with recent discussion and your post soecifically made me think of this. Did Viz believe it would make her cast more interesting?
I think--and this is just my thoughts on it--that she decided Stolas and his family having British accents made them sound more sophisticated. It's not exactly complex or clever design but to portray the upper class as snooty Brits is a trope as old as time. That and if you watch the pilot it seems like Stolas may have been originally conceived as more villainous, so possibly a compound of 'sexy British upperclass' and the tried and true evil Britgay.
Either way I think it just comes down to the accents sounding sexy. Kinda makes me wonder why Charlie doesn't have a similar accent since she technically outclasses them, maybe it's just the Ars Goetia who are Brits. Or maybe she just got the idea after making Hazbin, who knows. Viv's work kinda makes her seem like she's really weak to incorporating whatever she feels like regardless of whether or not it works.
I was just thinking about it. It’s weird because it feels inspired from TF2’s characters in a weird way. It also takes me out of the immersion that it’s in hell when everything, even the calm voices and mundanity, is so earthly.
It's less a British accent, and more an American upper class WASP accent. Listen to someone like William Buckley, he sounds just like that.
It still sound british. It’s probably just an american voicing him and it being audible in the finer toned speech.
I'd feel fine. I wanted wacky office shenanigans, not Vivienne's personal fujo fanfiction with the gay owl and Blitzo.
May I request some Stetlla?
Ye.
Thank you. May I request a Human Stella?
I hope her brother falls in love with an Imp too
I'm already assuming that her brother is either totally evil or a complete prostitute. Possibly both.
I think it’d be more satisfying for her to become a hypocrite and ending up in a relationship with an imp.
Hope she fricks her brother
I hope her brother fricks me
Anon her brother looks even gayer than her husband
That's why it would be funny if he fricked her and that's how the whole thing resolved.
And it would ACTUALLY be daring instead of being milquetoast swearing that only braindead activist get offended by.
Pretty much yeah.
on another topic, the more I see of Fizzarolli, the more I actually end up preferring the robotic Fizzarolli.
My goodness. Just look at the time.
The one before was 6 months ago. Is there a chance this weekend?
Would post this for the creator and fans
https://mobile.twitter.com/appleciderturd/status/1620180653466861573
Unrealistic
He didn't stammer or fumble his speech at all.
Very inspiring and brave. Mr. president.
Episode 2 of season 1 should have been a clear indicator that the show had changed course from the straight-up workplace/hitman comedy vibe presented in the pilot. IDK why so many of you are still watching a show that clearly isn’t going to change by this point into what you really want.
I think its better to encourage those of us burned by it to start creating, whether its webcomics, writing, animation, whatever. I'm not saying "if you don't like it make your own project!!", its that its shit and won't change until we start trying to make more of what we wanna see.
How would it get cancelled?
More bad art for you.
Kek yes kween slay
Can you draw Stella attempting to secure diplomatic relations with white castle while wearing the burger king crown
Can a human impregnate a bird demon?
indifferent
Don't care.
I didn't bother with season 2 after the first episode was entirely about homosexuals.
Anon the entire show is about homosexuals. It’s literally a spin off of Hazbin Hotel, one of the gayest cartoons of all time.
Hazbin Hotel only had 1 homosexual on screen and 2 more homosexual retroactively retconned in despite showing no sign of being together.
Hey
The show can’t get cancelled unless Viv and Spindlehorse run out of money to make it.
I like Stolas but I fear the show making him too much of a woobie AKA a character who the show keeps having bad shit happen to him to make the audience feel bad for him. Personally I and most people I l think already feel sympathy for Stolas by this point. But if the leaks are anything to go by the worst is yet to come.
He needs to be called out on more of the awful shit he does. Like bringing Blitzo (an imp he cheated with) to his bonding time with Octavia. And from the leaks Octavia seems to be pissed at him for taking some pills (for some reason) when there is SO MUCH MORE to call this fricker on. Doesn't help how those leaks pretty much paint Stolas as a perfect parent who is just misunderstood.
The pills are anti-depressants to deal with the fact that he’s a gay man forced by his father at a young age to marry the b***hiest woman in Hell. And Octavia I guess is mad at him in the leaks because he thinks him taking those means he was just pretending to love her. Which is uhhh a very bold leap to make (people take anti-depressants for a variety of reasons), making it all about her in the end. This is episode 12 so I feel there’s definitely some setup and context we’re missing but damn it’s going to have to be really good to make it work.
One interesting and angsty thing I can see coming out of this is that Octavia pushing Stolas out of her life due to this misunderstanding is what leads him to pic related and Octavia having to deal with the guilt.
Where are people finding all this stuff? I only know about stuff on Vivziepop's YouTube channel.
Shame this doesn't have anything to do with the premise of the show.
Agreed. What does a guy OD'ing on pills because his daughter thinks he doesn't love her have to do with demons being hired to assassinate people? This show is so up its own ass. But all the teenagers watching it will praise it for being super complex and deep and emotional and all that.
Yes but I think it's still funny, the voice actors are good, the art style is good, the creators actually care about the show.
The assassination business is more of a backdrop than the singular focus. Viv herself said that while Hazbin Hotel is about redemption, Helluva Boss is about relationships.
That sounds incredibly banal.
I think he might have actually attempted suicide
Since this is hell, the pills he's taking are probably not just what they say on the tin and are more like horse tranquilizers than antidepressants you get via prescription
Any hope for Stolas being a nuanced character instead of a victim who was bullied into adultery is gone.
You should know Stolas is just gonna be the 'uwu soft gay owl' since the episode that ended up with everything he did blowing up in his face was immediately followed by another episode where everything is shown to be everyone else's fault and the dude he was basically harassing and blackmailing into sex was actually a bad meanie who took advantage of him despite being mutually in love somehow.
Tbf The Circus wasn’t originally meant to be the follow-up. Season 1 episode 8 which focused on Blitzo and Loona was supposed to come before it but it got wrapped up indefinitely in legal shit.
If they can't even get their episodes out in an order that make sense, that just make it worse. And it doesn't undo what they tried to do with whitewashing Stolas, it just mean they'd have done it an episode later.
Are we eventually going to get that episode? I need more Loona, dammit.
Loona looks pretty here.
Hard to say, wasn't the whole issue that a lot of the animation in it was done by people no longer involved in the project or for whatever reason didn't want their work shown anymore? So they'd basically just need to recreate the whole episode.
Pray to the leak gods that it gets leaked like Tiny Toons and Clone High
What legal shit did it even get wrapped up in?
It had a character from Hazbin Hotel in it so it got C&D'd. Even though the two shows are set in the same universe.
Couldn't they just cut them?
>The actual creator of the show and characters got copyright struck for using her own character in her other show set in the same universe
She's SO getting the rights to everything taken away like a moron and end up with no control or money.
That would be kinda funny but also a little sad.
If it happens, she deserves it
There were two throwaway gay lines last episode (21 minutes). Which isn't any more than the initial few episode's homosexualry btw.
Good Loona moments.
Are you ready for the valentine's day merch drop video?
be honest, Cinemaphile: do you think this show's gonna be shit or actually pretty good?
Shit.
It's gonna be shit, we already know from the leaks that the boss Angel is called 'Adam' and is an evil sexist piece of shit and the other angels are just as gleefully evil so it's continuing on from Helluva Boss's 'Paraside is shit actually'.
Which ruin the entier premise and point of the show (Why make Sinners repent and get into heaven if it's just as bad? What's the point of even proving that a sinner can get into heaven since it's just a repainted hell?)
Even if it is a revealation for the characters to realize Heaven is bad then it’s still not shocking to us and should be obvious and obligatory to the cast as well.
Even if it's a reveal to the characters, it should be a shocking moment for the viewers and the impetus for a new conflict after Charlie accomplished her original goal, not some shitty joke about an butthole angel administrator and the fact it got leaked so early and easily make it clear they are going for the second one.
Hell you could even do the reveal right, just have Charlie finally redeem someone, they ascend to Heaven and 10 minute later they fall down wounded and at first we think it's a 'he got rejected joke' but then the redeemed sinner reveal he had to run away cause Heaven is even worse than hell and then you have the Angels descend to get their 'new guest' back / start the new purge as a cliffhanger.
I guess that’s way to do it. I meant that it won’t shock the audience since we know Heaven’s not what its cracked up to be. But still you could make it work even if the audience knows. The issue with this is that the demons should know about about Heaven being bad and them being dicks. Not just to them, but in general, to themselves and humans in material world. I think Viz’s too demon obsessed as her Adam has a clear demon style/tone. It’s probably intentional, as Adam was the first sinner human who rebeled against God’s fine order with Satan, but come on. She could have given a much better design. His placement as archangel is stupid. Even if the cast and story don’t follow biblical canon or theology. It’s just not good. It is really shit, anon, and I’m afraid she’s going to bring it to a whole ‘nother level as show continues. Why the frick are we even getting a heaven based episode so early into it. It should really be saved.
>It is really shit, anon
That's literally what I'm saying too.
I was agreeing with while saying it. It is shitty and she will frick up her own project-baby with a post birth abortion. Everyone was happy with the baby party, and Viz put a pistol in it’s mouth the next day
What if the bigger twist was that heaven was taken over by fallen angels and the true heaven was purposefully locked away from everyone? I know that is a stretch but seeing the leaks makes me think about the what-ifs.
The only thing it make me think is 'what if it wasn't shit?'.
Like those leaks killed any hope I had for Hazbin and any hope for Helluva to course correct away from the Stolas shit.
Also Adam's dialogue reads exactly like Blitzo's. It's basically interchangeable
Design wise he's very similar to Blitzo as well.
I stil can’t get over the fact that she added a archangel of military and it’s not Michael. I know he’s a loner but I laugh my as off at the fact it’s Adam...the archangel. It could’ve been Enoch/Metatron if she wanted an accended man who became a archangel.
That would be expecting Viv to know the biblical lore she "studied very hard".
I’m still waiting for that depiction of God. Just to see how she sees him really. Whether the depiction is her own view on the subject of God will be determined how she writes it. Michael, if he’s adapted. Should be an absolute GigaChad kinda one-track thoughtless character who’s basically Heaven’s himbo. He’s basically under the spell of God and seeking glory but not much else. Just Doomguy basically.
i have hope that God will be the nice grandpa who occasionally appears disguised as some nobody homeless elder dude offering advices to Charlie in momments she feel alone and hopeless
I hope they depict him better than just that he’s bad. It would be more cliche and tacky than if he was just all good. God should be depicted either good, but hands off and letting people decide their actions for themselves, or he’s an amoral entity since the terms and conditions he made with creation don’t apply to himself. Him being either a tired but wise grandpa figure would be great.
I’m interested in how they’ll depict Jesus
My favorite one is that Jesus told Charlie about redemption in the hopes that she would some day redeem Judas
Judas must be JACKED, dude literally betrayed the son of fricking god
That is a very good idea, now that I think about it.
I guess maybe she thought it was passé to have another 'Lucifer vs Michael' scenario, dumb as that reason may be.
is right though, Adam would be better fit as the original incarnation of the Sinners they're trying to save or perhaps even ascended to an Overlord status considering his role as the Original Sin.
Adam as a sinner could even be redeemed as a character by having him actually be pretty normal and his behavior (and shitty dialogue) just being a parody of how other sinners that he does to fit in because at the end of the day, he ended up as the 'Original Sin' for eating a fricking apple with his wife and thus ended up in hell that slowly got populated by murderers and rapists in front of his eyes.
That's actually a pretty good idea in all truth. He'd be like the kid who is trying SO fricking hard to be an edgy cool dude who fits in with all the true sinners. That could damn well constitute as a decent story on its own. Him trying to find Eve through it all but Hell is just so big that he has to adapt or suffer the consequence.
Speaking of his wife, where the frick IS Eve in all this? Lillith is fricking Lucifer so that's out the window, though I dread to see the possibility of Hazbin's Adam lashing out like a moron because she's married to Charlie's dad. Now that I say it I'm scared it'll actually happen, it lines up unfortunately well with the whole sexist Adam thing.
>though I dread to see the possibility of Hazbin's Adam lashing out like a moron because she's married to Charlie's dad
That would be even worse since Lucifer is basically 'Homer Simpson after he fricked up and try to get forgiven' / your average moronic sitcom dad who's daughter is ashamed of him.
Can Lillth be the main demon of lust, sexual deviancy and debauchery if she’s so loyal to Lucifer. Will her parents even be explored in depth, especially her mother?
>Will her parents even be explored in depth, especially her mother?
I doubt it. As is both Lucifer and Lillith seem to be exclusively used for fake Instagram posting.
If Lillth is the Lucifier’s wife then is Mary God’s?
Joseph's
I don’t know how well Viz will follow traditional Biblical lore. Joseph’s of course is Mary’s wife but maybe she’s God’s too maybe? I don’t know though. God probably won’t have a wife as the Devil was always too human and God beyond the scopes and seems of man.
>Joseph’s of course is Mary’s wife
Uh, anon?
Yeah. I fricked up. It doesn’t help that the show’s writing is incoherent.
>Can Lillth be the main demon of lust, sexual deviancy and debauchery if she’s so loyal to Lucifer.
According to the leaks, she doesn't even like Lucifer and he's stuck sleeping on the couch tho.
Also she isn't the demon of Lust, that's the deadly sin of lust we saw in Helluva.
So Lilith is just Stella 2.0
Yipee
The ducks were too much for her.
Maybe not as bad. Maybe it’s more of them being married so long that the spark is gone.
>According to the leaks, she doesn't even like Lucifer and he's stuck sleeping on the couch tho.
What leaks did I miss? I never saw a Lilith casting sheet even when leakanon came back to dump some more recently.
I don't think they're going in that direction, and she won't be a primary lust demon. So unfortunately, Charlie might not be half-succubus, and Lilith might not have a connection to Verosika.
I wish Charlie fricked her mom and dad.
Lucifer and Michael are (debateably) brother, kind of, who fought against each other. Michael should be shown early and done early as a lead up to the fall of man; Adam. Gabriel should be a secretive character and messager. Like the guy you replied with
said too. Just make Gabriel give a cease and desist letter to Charlie or some shit. Viz literally doesn’t have to write much since the characters are written for her. Just add interesting depictions and humor to spice them up. She’s making it harder for herself by writing them differently. It’s also worse writing from their biblical lore. So it’d be better if she just rips from the scripture than write a dumpster fire we know she’ll do. She could do jokes and pandering in a funny way; like making Gabriel transgender, since no description of Gabriel’s gender is consistent and it’s split reportings of Gabriel being a man and/or women.
I think it's pulling from the modern psuedo-wiccan belief of the Lilith myth, where she requested to be treated as an equal partner to Adam instead of subservient, and for that he rejected her, which paints Adam as a woman-hater. This might be overly generous of me, though.
>where she requested to be treated as an equal partner to Adam instead of subservient,
Wasn't there another version where Lilith literally just threw a shitfit at God because Adam was on top of her during sex?
Yeah, in that version she's pissed about Adam telling her to be on the bottom, so she leaves the garden on her own. God actually sends some angels to try persuading her into coming back, which she insults them for. Afterwards, one version of the story says she got with the devil, which is what we're getting, another where she slept with the angel Samael, and another where she became a baby-killing night hag that gives birth to all the world's demons.
>Enoch/Metatron
this guy should be the absolute OP dude that never do anything most of the time and them one day he show up lift a finger and casually destroy a entire world just to make a point
The book of Enoch is basically the Sun WuKong of scripture. A man so holy he matches the purity of man and nature before it was ever evil except with implications of him being holier and more virtuous. Only to be accended to heaven and made a offical high ranking Archangel in Heaven, equal to the main 7 archangels but seperate from their seal. His existence was foretold in strange and mysterious ways before he existed in biblical code, probably only known by Gabriel and Michael, to be the interconnector in some occult to be the binder of Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Chamael, and others. Then for his holiness to be God’s friend and even be better then almost all angels and equal to the seven archangels but was closer the Lord and became a loyal Acquaintance and friend to him. Making him so high only the Trinity (God, Jesus, Holy Spirit) are holier than him.
I puked. This is some bad fanfic tier dialogue.
Also nobody cares who Charlie is in Hell either so that's not even a good insult.
Dude. This fricking reads like Borderlands dialogue. What the actual frick.
Nah, even Borderlands dialogue is better than that.
You literally have an Angel that goes kick ass in Hell and shit talk Lucifer's daughter with no fear of repercussion, literally the only dude who should get away with a stunt like that is Gabriel.
Why the frick even have an Angel named Adam? He should be the original sinner instead.
Man, the voice actor they got playing Adam must have fricking perfect ass comedic timing and delivery, because this dialogue is straight garbage.
I wouldn’t be supersede if people convert to being Christian after watching this.
yes, they always draw their characters looking sexy in those
Unless keenie gets merch
No
Keenie must be the most underated cherub. Will they make seraphim horrific to look at least?
Didn't Hazbin already show what the seraphs were gonna look like?
>tfw s till so few keenie lewds and no WEG with keenie...
Yay, another video of that old sleeze telling us to buy sexy merch and btw the crew is working very hard to give us the next episode so just buy the merch please.
Good, they already ruined it by making it about a random ass gay relationship and whitewashing Blitzo and Stolas
Happy since they should have had Octavia frick her father straight instead of whatever is happening now.
The most recent episode was rock bottom.
>More gay drama
>more family drama
>writers being massive hypocrites again by trying to make us feel sorry for Loona when she beats the frick out of Blitz twice in a row which wouldn't be nearly as funny if it were the other way around
>brandon rogers jacking himself off by making his expy famous
>the co-stars of the sitcom are all villains for some reason
You're not meant to take it that serious lmao, Loona kicking Blitz in the dick is amusing.
The sitcom people were villains because it's L.A., they're meant to be satanic entities themselves, that's why the holy water melts the guy's skin.
There was almost no gay drama. Lots of family drama and backstory for Loona etc though.
Stella slapping the shit out of Stolas was amusing too and yet the show begged me to care about it.
No it was acid California water, it was all over the episode.
Thanks for keeping it real.
>You're not meant to take it that serious lmao,
They did want the audience to take the moral of "sometimes dads mess up but they're trying their best" seriously which is absolutely rich coming from Loona. Blitzo has quite literally never done anything wrong towards her and after being violently assaulted for the polite suggestion that she should be nicer to customers he just pulled the halfhearted "Uhh maybe I shouldn't have adopted you" card as a desperate last ditch attempt to shock her out of being a b***h.
Well, I mean, A: Loona is here for slapstick comedy. That is her character's goal, essentially.
B: we have to remember where she came from and what she went through there. The episode where she meets vortex, she clearly shows remorse for treating blitzo the way she does.
She probably doesn't really mean to push people away, but habits are hard to break, especially ones made when you are younger. If I had to guess we will she an episode where she breaks down after being a b***h to blitzo.
Blitzo tolerates that because he knows where it is coming from, as he was in a similar situation. His own father sold him for a used (slim-fit) condom and $5.
>Reddit spacing
Cope discarded
Shut your b***h ass up and GO TO YOUR DESK.
Take your meds
Advice noted. Medication taken.
Good
If I did then I'd be drugged, and you'd still be moronic.
Standing up for me?
That's very kind.
Checked.
I found the renting his son out to Stolas to be the moment they met person to person would have made sense instead if Blitzo was a birthday clown for Octavia when she was an owlet and not much further in the future from that Robo Fizz flashback.
agreed.
I hope I did get point across despite my mistype, I meant Stolas and Blitzo should have met in that flashback with owlet Octavia and he was hired for her birthday because they bonded over hating Fizz and he was not a scary clown to her. Not meeting as kids with Blitzo being a rented playmate.
He didn’t even say that, if he did that would be a genuinely hurtful thing to say, he just said he might think about getting a new receptionist if she can’t be nice to people.
It feels to me Octavia should have been the one brutalizing Blitzo for fricking her dad rather than Loona and Loona should have been grilling him for stupid shit spending or provocation of a dangerous person. Then he should be making the adoption remark under his breath in an annoyed tone rather than meekly, which would make his PTSD moment have more impact.
Don't really feel like Hazbin will be on par with Helluva
Helluva is already shit to begin with.
Things can get worse. From all we've seen of Hazbin so far it's just a kid's show with slurs. A very poor kid's show
Sounds better than Helluva since it's just a gay show with swearing, a very poor gay show.
wew
The Circus didn’t retcon anything about Stolas or any of the other characters you’re just unhappy that the show doesn’t match your headcanon anymore.
>It's not a retcon that suddenly everything is everyone's fault except Stolas despite having a whole song in the previous episode saying his shitty situation was his fault
Cope, fujo.
I mean technically anon is right that it isn't REALLY a retcon, just a infodump on things we weren't informed of at the time. I can't argue that it doesn't technically contradict anything in the show. That said it's shoehorned in with all the graze of a horse with three broken legs and makes Stolas out to be way, way too blameless in the whole situation.
It may not be a retcon, but it’s still dumb.
Is this why everyone is so mad? The fandom for this show is REALLLLLLY weird. I'm on a lot of cartoon fan groups and the community posting about this show are like, legit actual full on autistic, saying weirdass shit.
Obv I'm one of them. But usually there's less people as weird as me in groups.
Yes it did. They were many allusions to beforehand that Stolas was an ageless ancient being going back to as the Loo Loo Land episode. Stella also was implied to have been normal beforehand.
Even if those somehow doesn't count, the end result is still incredibly stupid by just making Stolas out to have done nothing wrong. Bad writing is still bad writing. It's pretty obvious also that that wasn't the original idea.
In S1 we saw Stolas being very passive about the divorce (he tries to appease Stella when she's yelling at her in episode 2, he's off in his own little world and doesn't even register her yelling at the dinner table in the Striker episode) while S2 fricks the timeline up and makes him suddenly incredibly aggressive and biting back at Stella.
>I can't argue that it doesn't technically contradict anything in the show
In Loo Loo Stolas sings that "all his stories have been told except for one" which pretty clearly seems to mean he's an ancient being who's experienced a ton of shit but now the Circus episode tells us he was in his mid-twenties when he sang that song to Via.
In Loo Loo Land Octavia also explicitly states that Stolas is responsible for ruining their family, not Stella. And they have written S2 Stella to be so cartoonishly evil and brazen about abusing Stolas even pre-affair that you cannot convince me Octavia wouldn't have picked up on that.
I would have preferred him biting back earlier on to coincide with his aggressive sub mannerisms but they for some reason only allow Blitzo to have any teeth and screen time along with his creepy ass behavior be portrayed as just for laughs. Stolas at least was likable and even some anon's on here described him as hotter when he was a rapist, which goes to show the massive divide in fans who want Stolas to not have teeth and be a UwU softboi but seem to shill for Blitzo's actually uncomfortable predation of M&M
Wouldn’t Eve technically be the original sinner or at least the first? She bit the apple before telling Adam to.
Yes, but she's a woman so that means she can't be wrong, Adam is a hecking evil man.
>but stella
women lose out in the oppression olympics to homosexuals
If Stolas in the show is in his 30s, then who was the Stolas in the Ars Goetia?
My best guess is that there was a Stolas who existed back then and died sometime later on and the Stolas we follow is actually just named after him. Kind of like how some royals in real life will just reuse names again and again.
Errant Coomer here, could someone draw Millie in some shiny panties, latex or vinyl or whatever?
Millie is the perfect woman. I'm beta and awkward like Moxxie. I'd enjoy a hot b***h to protect me.
There is no such thing as Beta or Sigma/Alpha/whatever. There is merely men of various caliburs. You have greatness within you, you need only seize it.
>caliburs
Seems to really know your stuff, buddy. Totally worth listening to.
Well they're actually correct, we're far too complex for such dichotomies, in human society, power is as fleeting as a rock to the head.
Indeed. If Millie wanted, she could've married anyone - stronger, richer, smarter - but she married Moxxie because his innate characteristics and personality appealed to her.
There is someone for everyone.
There's nobody for either of you.
There's somebody for both of you.
Moxxie is pretty great though, he's just a wimp. I wouldn't want a woman to do weird dominatrix shit to me, but I'd probably enjoy a more assertive woman like Millie. Mostly because Millie is also quite shapely.
Alpha/Beta/Sigma shit doesn't even make any sense considering that's not how wolf dynamics work. It's terminology for pickup artists and insecure young men that can't get off the fricking internet
Nobody cares what you heard on some fat gay dude's channel.
I knew about the "alpha wolf" myth long before that Adam homosexual made a video about it
Sure, you did, homosexual. Enjoy getting your opinions from a fat gay man.
>Charlie meets God
>He’s just a unresponeful being with no defining feature
I love wieners
But Stolas and Blitzo(in Viv's artstyle) makes me gag
Oh yh go back to episodic IMP shit
Blitzo and (episode 6 onwards) Stolas are the worst parts of their own show that even other bisexuals and gay men do not seem to like or find charming.
It amuses me that at any given time, Stolas is probably thinking about wiener.
Stella is just a villain and won't be redeemed, get over it
>implying I want her to be "redeemed"
I want her to win. I would serve her Stolas's gay little head on a platter.
Vivzie tried to appease her homosexual fanbase by making Stella more evil, but all she achieved was making me love her more.
By her I mean Stella and you
anon, not Viv because she needs to get knocked up.
Impeccable taste, good Sir.
>won't be redeemed
She was never in the wrong.
I want her to be evil, same as Verosika. Let the women be evil and rapists if they want but emphasize how they are terrible people and not jerk them off to how UwU heartbroken they are or just rascally scamps. Like have them be genuinely intimidating and unnerving with how depraved they can be, not in that weird feminist baby murdering way but in a depravity for the sake of itself reason.
I dont wanna see independent creators lose their show, but damn is the story becoming shit. The visuals and Moxxie and Millid are keeping me going. I love those two
These are my two favorite characters in the show and no I don’t ship them.
>and no I don't ship them
Exceedingly based. It would be fricking moronic if she went and made them a thing. They have a cute big sister/little sister dynamic.
Absolutely, dare I say dangerously based.
They're the best surrogate sibling pair I've in animation in a long time. I want Loona to teach Via how and what it means to be an adult. I was the oldest of my family and I wish I had a strong older sister/brother to guide me and be my friend.
We must find a way to defeat the foul Yuri shippers and preserve wholesome sibling companionship.
Loona is a shotacon so we're safe from any /l/ shenanigans
colloona 4 lyfe!
Hands off bawd, he deserves a loyal housewife. Not some tramp off the streets.
Collin is happy that Loona’s happy.
oh shit. when was that colored?
They're not siblings though.
Would the show be better if it was about them while they deal with their weird gay dads?
I'll admit, even though their episode was a mess, the small segment between them was really organic and sweet. There was a real feeling that Loona understood Via and was willing to open up to her. They should share music and b***h about their parents together.
>morons think they're getting chaz the shark demon
>they're really getting chazzzzz
I'm assuming it's on delay because they've finally been putting out redesigns and implying progress on Hazbin, which may trump HB in terms of production since it's actually licensed to a company and all.
The redesigns were shit tho
Permission to use last hundred (and seven) replies to speak of the absolute beauty of Loona?
No, let this shit thread for a shit show die
Keep copin' and hatin' on this masterpiece animation.
Cope
At first I thought he might have been sitting on a therapists couch.
But no.
Loona and her big Russian crush
Well if someone is posting an oc I’m going to show the one I was talking about in the other now dead thread.
I like it anon.
I think OC's are allowed in Cinemaphile
I see them all the time.
Have a look at the new(er) draft for the song I'm writing about Loona.
The secondary guitar melody is not in this, but a verse has been added that kind of snaps at you in a way you don't expect, and then it has a brief sorrowful moment before it snaps again. I'd like to make that sorrowful moment bigger, in light of the recent episode.
https://voca.ro/1ovLOgrVce8O
Just got around to listening to this. Pretty nice and chill tune, dude.
Thanks.
I'm working on perfecting it, the lyrics are the hardest part. I'm thinking of something like:
>It has been four months without you here
>And I've been having trouble getting out of bed
But it's all so complicated, expressing how I feel in musical terms.
Look at you go! I like it, man.
Could you draw me a Loona?
Perhaps eventually
I wish I could background but there NO WAY
I mean, if you are going for that 'helluva boss' style, backgrounding is pretty easy. Don't show the character's legs. Ever.
viv and co are shit at backgrounding so no one is really connected to the ground.
Why do you think Loona is always leaning against something lmao.
Neat song, yeah that calm moment should probably be a little longer
Here’s the second doggo as I’m currently stuck on her. She’s a border collie base.
I can’t figure out hair that fits the personality, I don’t want it to cover her ears too much either. I think two braids or something like that still are the best option but I don’t know what to do with the top at all.
Also not sure how well I did the dress. Art style is difficult
That's not bad anon. I like it, though I would get a scanner. Have you tried life drawings yet?
I don’t have one and no? I suppose I specialize in mimicking the style of whatever I’m trying to make a character for. I don’t really understand when people make a character for a universe and use their own art style, it feels distant and weird to me. I don’t know if I even have my own art style, not a consistent one anyway. I just know what I can’t reproduce.
Not that anon but if you do life drawings and learn fundamentals, it'll help a lot when you do stylistic drawing.
Cute!
they drew her wrong!
They did better on the other one.
Indeed, this show will never not be shit again. The concept of a show completely done with no-holds-bound slapstick comedy and frequent innuendos was a great fricking idea. You felt like you shouldn't be watching it at all, and that drove many people to it.
But then they added too much drama, they didn't understand that that was what we wanted away from!
We at least got the cute wolf girl out of it.
Cute.
>tfw no 7ft. tall Russian hellhound wife to cuddle you at night 🙁
>tfw no Loona in big sweater to cuddle and watch horror movies with.
Howdy Loonanon
Oh hey it's you.
I managed to lucid dream a little last night, I think, but still no Loona.
Well hey, any progress is good progress. Keep at it and you'll only get better.
'Howdy
Got beaned. Still not going to stop me from Loonaposting. I love her more than anything.
Frikin' based. Loona posters shall prevail and jannies shall SEETHE at the true best girl.
Let's try to be a liiittle more conservative though, we tend to swallow threads up sometimes even if we're not trying.
I definitely prefer Loona to the other shit, pray they don't mangle her character.
Aye, fair fair.
AND SEETHE THEY SHALL, IN LOONA'S NAME.
Loona is golden character, something that really shines. She is:
>Diversity (Crush on a black dude)
>More diversity (Goddamn furries)
>Cute
>Relatable
And viv didn't even know.
Not one,
not two,
but THREE OCs?
The artist must really like them.
That’s all one character loonanon ?
If Hazbin is successful enough do you think there’s a chance Helluva could get picked up by A24 too?
One good thing about the leaks is that it seems like the writers are using Loona more this season than they did last season. Sometimes she felt like a glorified side character in season 1 despite being billed as part of the main cast.
Doggy
The goodest doggy :*~~
Truly.
You guys are making me feel inadequate for not being a namegay
I wouldn't recommend it. Makes you a big-ass target.
I only do it because I feel the constant need to remind everyone what I'm all about. I don't want to deceive someone into liking me before they know just how much of a weird dude I am.
>Loonanon
>'in dedication to'
I really wanted to see how the party went 🙁
Trying to keep things relatively on topic, if season 2 IS more Loona-centric, I can see it as compensation for that episode being cut. They probably don't wanna just redo the entire episode (at most maybe shuffle it around) so they're probably trying to do other stuff with her to make up for us missing out before.
Too based my dude, although a shame since the rest of the cast I enjoyed sans Blitzo and defanged Stolas.
I love this series, why do b***h ass homies talk about shit that don't concern them? Nobody who hates the series is even watching it so what you care that it should be cancelled or whatever?
Pussyass homies yo mamas had some girls when you were born HA.
Hey man, if you want to come here to shitpost that's cool, but if you just want to start fights and then get butthurt when someone ends it please go the frick away.
May I suggest the furry threads on /b/? They are kind of dicks.
And once again,
checked.
>C-c-c-checked
Lol, the furry is on suicide watch. Do a flip.
Just ignore him, dude. He's just waiting for a (you) so he can say his next line.
How does it feel to have to ignore 99% of the thread shitting on your low grade soap opera? You don't seem very successful at it.
You are right, you can't reason with those sorts.
I'm going to post this Loona.
Based.
You know they really would make a cute couple.
The Death and Loona ship is pretty dang funny, not gonna lie
It makes sense, really.
I kind of like death less now.
Death doesn't strike me as someone who wants to date, he's too busy doing his job. Also him as a wolf most likely a form he chose specifically to scare Puss as much as possible.
I like it when it's Loona fangirling over him while Death is there going "wtf"
Glad you learned your place at the bottom, don't try to get uppity again.
Nice samegayging.
Chimping out isn't 'ending a fight'.
>Schizo furries spamming a dead thread after noticing it had a few replies left before bump limit
Sad
I am in your walls.
By the way, something to consider
/bant/ apparently really fricking loves Loona, and they said it would be OK with them if we came over there. It's better than /trash/
The frick is /bant/?
Schizo board like /trash/
Schizo board with flags.
Kind of like /misc/ but it isn't completely batshit crazy. Could be an interesting containment board for me, I know the jannies aren't particularly fond of us, so we could possibly take our shit there.
It might be for the best since we go rapidly off the rails. I'll check it out.
We belong here. This series belongs here.
I'm not opposed to talking here as well as there, though. If we get smacked here, at least we have somewhere to go.
I want want an episode where IMP get destroyed by a priest.
They'll probably reveal the priest was a kid diddler or something, remember who writes this show.
YOU CAN’T HIDE FROM GOD, HIJO.
YOU SHALL DRINK THE WRATH OF THE ALMIGHTY.
I.M.P manages to finally corner there next target
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>Regular Loona
Nay
>Human Loona
Aye
The one with the partially shaved head? Meh.
Above all else, keep drawing and creating, my dude.
She's human, thats what counts.
You'd still be pounding dog pussy, anon, her human form is an illusion.
Better to dwell in a sweet illusion than to be hold a viscious and smelly truth.
To be fair, it seems like she is fully shifted into being a human. Like a form of polymorphing but a bit of a one trick pony with how well she can blend in and the detailings of the disguise.
SO BE IT ANON
I don’t plan on stopping but also I don’t know how much focus I can ever have on once thing. I love new things but I kinda wish I had a lot of pictures of fewer characters. I can’t tell which feels more rich
May as well show one of the succubus too to prove I’m not just a furry making lots of hounds. Might be sideways again.
Human Loona is unbearably cute.
Wheres the next thread?
Well we have a couple options.
We can make another and risk mods taking it down, and even if they do let it stay they will ban you for anything they could possibly ban you for.
>inb4 Cinemaphile has free speech
only if the jannies like you
Or, we could go and take it to /bant/ who said they they would take us. Jannies seem pretty cool there, however we would have to deal with schizos.
Put it to a vote?
Make one here and one there. If it gets taken down here, we have a thread to fall back on.
Sure. One sec.
Actually I need this thread to sink a little farther.
Can't give em any excuse.