People are praising Viv for "not making gluttony fat" but b***h this IS a fat person, she consumes like 20,000 calories a day or more. The only difference between her and a fat person is the literal magical lava lamp making the weight gain magically impossible. Even if someone had irrationally high metabolism or was bulimic they're still going to become a lardwhale on Beez's diet here so please don't act like Viv is not portraying the same stereotype of "gluttony = eats a shit ton of food" other than that she wanted to keep her characters sexy enough to sell pins so she introduced a misogynistic magical lava lamp fan burner to keep the waist thin on this 20kcal consuming fatass frick. So no, her take on gluttony is NOT original, it's still gluttony = person who eats a shitton of food.
I like the design.
Kys stolasgay
What? I don't even watch this show.
Sure, sure. Everyone knows only stolasgay supports viv in any way here, idiot
Last few posts have been critical of her too lmao
Wow look it's Loona but with extra arms and someone puked a rainbow all over her such a great character design
That's NOT Loona? I don't watch Hazbin, I kept seeing this character and thought it was Loona after a character arc or something.
Yeah that's Viv's interpretation of Beezlebub, except she's not a gluttonous bee or fly she's a DeviantArt sparkledog.
How fricking laughable, imagine shit like this in an art portfolio
What fricking character arc would make Loona like THAT
Go into detail
All these gay modern cartoons have an anime transformation that looks like that
Fun fact, she's supposed to be part bug, specifically a bee.
Not that you'd know from looking at her.
Lucky Tex and loona
STOP SHILLING THIS FRICKING GARBAGE EVERY FRICKING DAY
JESUS CHRIST
JANNIES NEED TO START BANNING YOU homosexualS LIKE THE PERIDOT AUTIST.
I hate Viv but these threads are fricking annoying.
Viv apparently cares about Cinemaphiles opinion so much she sends in her staff to try and convert us to her ideas
It's so cool to see people love Helluva Boss so much they can't stop arguing about it.
By the way, arguing over the metabolism of fictional characters is
Eh, you can't say that word anymore.
Nice mental gymnastics to defend the over designed sparkledog
I will happily bump threads about Vivzie's shit 'till the day I die
As I said in the other thread:
The sins as presented would be better served as demons or overlords drawing power from said sins as warlocks, not the sins themselves. Then Viv could do whatever dumb shit she wants without taking a shit all over the scripture and mythology she 'researched'.
Schi/x/o here this is absolutely based.
Essentially this whole thing was given life by warlocks and no one knew, not even satans daughter? Would be wiiild.
She wouldn't do that nearly as fast as turning into a real devil worshipper and raping some people with zero consequences though. I should know, I'm a schi/x/o clown.
VIVZIE
WHERE IS THE BBW BEE QUEEN
VIIIIVZEEEEEE
>really good design
>ruined with four arm nonsense
Hard pass
>Shill thinking he sounds badass for announcing a report
This shit really is being spammed by tumblrgays and redditards...
Based.
Based goreposting.
That's all this shit deserves.
If you're gonna post gore and samegay yourself at least post the good shit, this is baby tier. I've seen videos of people's heads getting obliterated by a 50 cal.
Also, these threads will be posted long after you get tired. I'm going to start posting them now simply because they bother you.
Canon titty phone btw
A cartoon based on Hell is too afraid to draw proper breasts on their characters. Wow, you're about as edgy as a soccer mom.
So she has cleavage we just aren't allowed to see it?
>he thinks we don't know he's dodging bans with vpns
>he thinks I posted the thread
Cope, gay. Maybe you should try other boards instead of whining about how much of a tourist you are.
You can tell the newbie doesn't know how to use filters, otherwise he wouldn't be spamming and crying like the little Black person he is.
Not stopping you, tourist. Go ahead, get it out of your system. I'll still be here laughing at your zoomie ass.
Been here since 04, homosexual, frick off my board.
>Viv's shills trying their hardest to assimilate
Cinemaphile welcomes all migrants sir, you do not have to go to such lengths to prove yourself
Idiot forgot to edit in the # after he removed the (you)
Now this is samegayging.
Schizo
MODS = GODS
This is gluttony and you people want to push "fat acceptance"? Make up your fricking minds, you mentally ill morons.
Exactly. It's as if Viv is so ashamed of showing fat people that even the sparkledog eating 20kcal/day is stick thin.
Have you seen Viv lately? It wouldn't surprise me if part of the reason the episodes take so long is because she's eating the animators.
Can you draw in Vivz style?
The dog and the spider-gal(male) are the only two things that are appealing, I feel bad for show fans. Hell has become more wholesome and conformist than Heaven these days in our culture. I don't see how people can stomach this kind of millennial-humor tier shit.
I think maybe at some point maybe Viv had something special with her work even if it wasn't to everyone's taste, but as time went on in HB she lost the plot and is now actively undermining her own vision.
You can really tell with HB going the way it did, and hell becoming so heccin wholesome can only result in Charlie rejecting her dream and realizing "the real heaven was hell all along!"
She fricking George Lucas'd herself before the show even came out.
I'm glad I didn't grow up in the late 2000 and 2010s to see this kind of stuff crop up. This is just unfortunate. Viv must've really wanted to get into the "club" to sacrifice her creative spirit in this fashion. Also, I wouldn't give George Lucas too much flak, he could've gone even more corporate, bland and male-antagonistic like KK.
I’m still coping with the fact that HH isn’t out yet and HB was already Brandon Rogers’ b***h anyways.
These threads are always wild. Funny how easily some people get driven into sperging.
Kek, this entire thread became a trainwreck.
I think mods just frickin gave up lmao
Poor mods, having to deal with this bullshit. I sure hope they dont just automatically nuke HH/HB threads because of this
That did start doing that for a while, at this point I don't blame them.
Not just this one, id say the last two or three. Started with Stolasgay and then there was the guy trying to claim that Viv is not a hypocrite despite being a champagne socialist and then theres the homosexual trying to claim that all critics of the show are only doing it because they are religious and were offended by it and the show is perfect
Don't forget Viv's personal "friend" who screamed at Charlastor and Angel Dust/Vaggie shippers.
Feel better, champ? Got it all out of your system?
MODS = GODS
Hot Fennec bee mommy OMG
Kys stolasgay
He's a good(naughty) boy.
Think I could pay him to tell me everything'll be okay?
It would be costly, but I would assume so, yes and he would call you his little "Monkey".
Honestly. The only thing that really bothers me is the blue. I can't figure out why Viv added the blue. Guess I'll ask her when she decides to shit on some twitter user again.
So that's who the haters are, ponyfrickers.
Thought there was something odd about them.
Its weird innit.
Who makes the guns in hell?
And cars, and everything else.
imp wagies
Does anyone clean up big leaks from hell?
Would be a neat idea for a spinoff, too bad it'll veer into being about dudes fricking each other in the ass
gay sex and sparkledogs the show
narrated by kesha
sung by off-brand kesha
Viv really slowly killed off all of her ideas herself didn't she
Yes, i acknowledge the poor design and the difficulty it lends to animating, I am aware of the poor lyricism and voice acting of this character.
HOWEVER
I still want to see her toy with Luna after she enlarges her form and to see her toy with Luna in between her giant paws until she realizes that Luna is in fact upset. Shortly after she and Luna have a moment of consolation before the two consent to a more intimate session of giantess toying around.
Loona*
Man, reading this thread on tbh was a trip.
>Goregay posting
>OP samegayging
>Mass reports everyone calling him out
>Tiny horse scat for several dozen posts
Some dude sperged out and started spamming gore and pony scat.
>t. OP
OP is in your walls
Low-effort non-denial
High-effort rectum trial
Were you the ponyscat spammer?
Gluttony is just excess consumption in general. It's only fairly recently that it became represented solely by actual physical consumption of food.
The show implies the Beelez fox is so gluttonous with FOOD SPECIFICALLY that they need a lava lamp stomach.
Loona Fox
What spells will she cast
Male magnetism
I think it's working
cover your feet b***h
Reveal more
Literally a furry OC
Still somewhat fappable
This OG will totally sniff and eat her ass to assert dominance as the LORD OF FLIES
Handholding with Collin!
I love moxxie and millie
I don't hate her being thin, it's just weird she's both a bug AND a dog. Also too many colors, the all-yellow shots look way better.
>her being thin
did no one watch the vid? shit has ass for decades
you know the drill, post your versions for a better beelzebub
>she consumes like 20,000 calories or more
>Looks like a thin sparklebitch
I don't buy it
AHAHAHAHAHA SPARKLEBITCH
I'm just glad I can say this show has sparkle dogs now and people can't try and correct me with semantic shit.
>magical powers is fine
>shapeshifting is fine
>not being fat is not fine
Is being moronic some sort of contest now?
Is there some aspect of gluttony that you don't understand
>it means other things too!
Yeah but being a gorging fatass is the big one
Gorging yes, fatass questionable as you can be a glutton of things other than eating. And even if you eat a ton you don't necessarily need to be fat if you actually burn it off, or say have magic that controls your shape and size.
Need both sloth and gluttony for insane fatness.
You can't outrun a bad diet.
>or say have magic that controls your shape and size.
Cop out.
She literally become a giant. At this point you're just coping for I don't know what reason.
Are you a lardass and are upset she isn't one?
>coping
>lardass
Dude, come on. Don't resort to this shit.
It just doesn't evoke Gluttony or even a higher level of demon at all. It's a bad design. Straight up.
I don't know about that but I'm gonna make her boyfriend fat on peanut butter. He's such a good boy. Just needs to be put in his place.
>Hummingbirds have a very high metabolism and must eat all day long just to survive. They consume about half their body weight in bugs and nectar, feeding every 10-15 minutes and visiting 1,000-2,000 flowers throughout the day.
Well then that's not gluttony is it?
Gluttony is OVERconsumption. If you're eating just enough for what your body needs, then that's not gluttony.
So where does Beelzejuice come from?
Pussy
How would you make a “unique” gluttony character OP?
Probably a beady eyed little bald guy who eats people.
They could look in a mirror.
I'd make the character with a hollow torso, a void that can never be filled with material gratification.
It's likely been done before but it's a start.
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/House_of_Mystery_Vol_2_1
The fact that you had to dig that far proves how little its done.
What are you talking about being done so little? A world where killing is fine but voting for Trump isn't?
Maybe it's not done that much in media because it's moronic?
What the frick are you on about now
I like the idea of wacky fun party girl that tempts everybody into indulgence, the modest sized popstar idea can work if refined.
A bee-fox is just a super weird choice of species though. Bees work incredibly hard to survive and are highly industrious,only stuff like Ants and Termites work more than they do. And Foxes are wild solitary predators that sually just barely manage to get by, so they aren't exactly gluttonous either.
If she wants a fur bait design I'd go with a Bear. Bears are generally pretty lethargic and pack on loads of fat for most of the year so they can sleep through the winter. Bears also love honey and sweets, particularly apples so it'd be a natural thing for it to be honey-themed, that was Winnie the Pooh's whole damn character. The apple thing could tie back into Loo-loo land or whatever apple themed Park Loo-loo land was ripping off.
And of course the hellhounds aren't bears, so the huge quantities of sweets that would be considered a light snack for a bear would be overwhelming and gluttonous amounts of food for the dogs.
That's actually pretty well thought out while still being on brand. Good work, anon.
I'm tired but I think I gotta doodle this real quick now
I won't say no, I'm interested to see it.
Alright, here's just a super quick super trash concept doodle
She's still a bear but she's gotta be as cute as possible without being an outright teddy bear/care bear, so fangs are a must. After all, of all the sins Gluttony presents itself as the sweetest and least dangerous. What harm can just a little more of a good thing do, right?
Everything else would just largely stay the same. Keep the heart bra, even keep the fun weird tumblr colors viv loves (except the lava lamp stomach, shit makes no sense) But make her something ACTUALLY gluttinous, but presents itself as cute and sweet to get your guard down. This isn't something like Asmodeus that wants to overwhelm you with power and get you in a stupor. This is something that wants you to feel comfortable, TOO comfortable.
She's saving the Bear for another gay guy character. Screencap this.
That sounds about right
The glutton for partying thing was fine, but needs to be done to a damaging extent and also forget the "eats a ton but magically burns it away" aspect because that's just a cope for not wanting to show what calories do to your stomach cellulite and thigh rolls. Don't even bring the glutton of food consumption aspect into it if you aren't going to commit to making her fat as frick.
It was weird how they were trying to make KeshaFox a "glutton for partying" and yet she's extremely sensible of when to stop partying and makes sure literally everyone is drinking and partying responsibly.
Other than being a glutton for food which magically burns away since frick fat people, what gluttonous traits was she shown as ACTUALLY having?
>yet she's extremely sensible of when to stop partying and makes sure literally everyone is drinking and partying responsibly
That's what makes Viv's hell so weird. It's edgy in that they say piss and frick a lot, but it doesn't wanna go there when it really needs to.
There's just no teeth.
True facts. People don't sew the potential he'll that the goreposters see. It's why they seethe when it's posted.
The way I think of it Raphael is the leader of the torturers of hell and he'll be the one to say when you're done suffering or not and let some guy who hates you bash your brains out with a rock (t. Quran), right? So Viv said this was Michael's hell, so that means Michael wanted people to be in a he'll ofntheir own devices, and all he ended up doing was make he'll a hospitable place where people spit cuss and fistfight.
All I'm saying Viv, smiling friends looks like a more violent hell than HH and HB. And if you want to tell a story about a hell where God allowed a mistake to happen and let people be good people in hell (c. Beelz "are you sure you haven't had enough" bub), you can take that concept and run.
Plus it makes sense why they weren't judged at the end of the world. As biblically speaking we're all in purgatory until judgement day is over (revelation 21).
T. Religious schi/x/o demonology expert would-be exorcist here
You need to proofread more.
>The way I think of it Raphael is the leader of the torturers of hell and he'll be the one to say when you're done suffering or not and let some guy who hates you bash your brains out with a rock (t. Quran)
Quranic hell is actually overseen by an angel named Maalik, who isnt really present in judaism or christianity as far as I know. Maalik leads the Zabaaniyah, the nineteen angels who guard and take care of hell, they use the hellborn (completely different from demons in islam) as torturers, or sometimes sinners, or they just let hell itself do the work
Thanks for the clarification muslimbro. Makes sense to me. I now desperately want to meet Maalik. I bet he's one pure motherfricker.
I dont know bro, Maalik is one cold mf, hes described as having never smiled his entire life. Now I wanna see a hell based more on the Islamic interpretation.
It's a terrible representation of gluttony. It isn't gluttony unless you're hurting yourself or others.
Depending on how much they want to retain the sparkledog aesthetic, make them like a warped version of Guy Fieri or Adam Richman, someone that lives a double life as an iron chef type that is hyper-critical of how a meal is prepared while on the clock and encourages their customers to be snobs as well, while relieving stress off the clock by essentially gorging on shitty food at raucous parties then purging it or trying to burn it off with cocaine or overexercising. Part of the sin of gluttony is not just over-consumption, but essentially obsession with one's food and palate in general, so it'd make sense for them to encourage both ends of the gluttony spectrum.
Design: I will keep the sparkledog design but use it as the appearance that her uses to get along with hellhounds and imps, when she becomes giant is revealed that her true form is a giant anthropomorfic bee with small shiny flies floating around her like satellites that she can use to attack and fire lasers that transform you into honey.
Behaviour:
Her honey and herself induces an brainwashing aura that makes people eat and drink until they die, she does the party to mask this, once they die their bodies become more honey. She can control who is affected and who is not, if she likes you, you will be fine.
If you want to make her to not be totally evil a plot twist would be that she does it because her sees the existence of imps and hounds as sad so she's "ending their misery in the most enjoyable way".
She spares Loona since she's Vortex's friend, Loona freaks out when she finds out that people are dying of overdose and becoming honey and fears for Blitzo's life, Bee explains her ideology to Loona and she calls her batshit insane, Bee becomes giant and we see her true form, Loona and Blitzo try to fight her but are easily defeated, when they were about to get eated, Vortex intercede and makes Bee spare Loona (and Blitzo as a result of it).
Bulemia
Is this a cut off horse penis? What the frick is that picture?!
Why are you fatties so upset?
script troony moment
Meh, she was supposed to represent the sin of gluttony, how does she not look fat and disgusting?
The design simply doesn't fit the sin. That episode in itself looks way more like it was another one about Lust than anything else. There were some small "food" details in it, but it just looked absolutely like it was about Lust.
bee was designed as a sparkledog, confirmed
>the character is the character
Yes, this is a post.
she was trying to pretend before like it was a bee lol
MY NAME
IS VIVIENNE MEDRANO
I EAT TACOS AND BURRITOS!
The bear will beat the hellhounds, and get crushed by a tree.
>I don't give a frick I got a rabbit
Rabbits must go.
I wish Queen Bee had a more insectoid look. Why make her look like another canine? Such a weird design choice.
That aside I liked how surprisingly nice she was. Neat change of pace from other bosses of Hell's circles being asshats.
>Why make her look like another canine?
Because instead of giving Beelzebub a unique design, she just wanted to reference her other sparkle dog
>it's still gluttony = person who eats a shitton of food.
That is literally the definition of gluttony.
Well no, gluttony is the excess of food consumption. If she burns it all off then it isn't really excess. That's why it's a DEADLY sin.
Remove the lava lamp shit
Remove the eyelashes, extra arms and wings
Make her hair 2 colors instead of 3
Remove those tattoos on her belly
Remove her freckles
Remove that tattoo on her forehead
Boom, you got a passable design
still a dog
remove the dog
you people watch the dumbest shit.
>This thread again.
What is up with you guys and criticizing this show?
Viv should stop making it so easy to criticize.
Loona looks like her pussy smell