>Helluva Boss
Ditched its premise shortly after the pilot and derailed its own characters and plot to pursue romance drama.
>Villainous
Managed to stick tightly to its premise, has managed a mostly consistent quality thus far.
How did Villainous end up being what Helluva Boss should have been all along?
The chad Vivziepop vs the virgin Cinemaphile
I think you're confused, Vivziepop made Helluva Boss, Villainous is made by Alan Ituriel.
The chad Vivziepop vs the virgin Alan Ituriel
Nah, it’s just contrarianism. A healthy thing for these kinds of threads
Just cause I know what it is doesn't mean I have to play along with it.
If you don’t want to play along don’t respond
Good point.
But enough of that. How many episodes has villainous had so far?
6. I thought there were more.
I thought there were less. Good on him for making an entire series
>How did Villainous end up being what Helluva Boss should have been all along?
Because it's not written by a fat fujo furry and her fat homosexual roommate.
>Villainous
Made by a man.
>Helluva Boss
Made by Paul Blart.
There's your answer.
>Paul blart
Who?!
Mall cop
POST DEMENCIA
Damn shes cute.
>fanart always depicts her with a giant chest like tifa lockhart
she isnt flat or anything, but she is much more slim than most people draw her as
I love her wrestling outfit so damn much. It really, really works for her.
Didn't get a chance to post this in the last thread before it got deleted.
Basically, this.
Helluva Boss and Murder Drones both took a turn away from what their pilots set up. Except Helluva Boss took a turn for the worse, while Murder Drones took a turn for the better. While Viv only listens to herself and complains about the criticism of viewers, the creators of MD actually listen to feedback and aim to create a better show. I wasn't a huge fan of MD's pilot, I did really like the setting and worldbuilding but the comedy focus didn't land particularly well for me. I liked what HB set up in the Pilot and first few episodes. Now, both shows have basically done the same shift but MD did it so much better. It pretty much just feels like the creators of MD care way more about their show and care more about the viewers that watch it, because they actually listen. I didn't want to say "it has SOVL" but it's pretty much what I'm getting it. Helluva Boss feels like it's just appealing to Viv's personal need for poorly written homosexual drama, and I don't want to watch it anymore. Which really sucks because I genuinely liked characters like Moxxie (before Season 2 butchered him and turned him into a useless little b***h that relies entirely on his wife).
>Murder Drones took a turn for the better
Is this fricker serious?
Are you? He's literally correct and it's unanimously agreed on Cinemaphile that the pilot is the weakest part of the show, and the episodes after the pilot taking the main focus away from the quirky comedy for the sake of bringing the more interesting story with a more serious tone to the forefront. Most agree this vastly improved the show, and you can see that general sentiment is shared here because people that actually watch Murder Drones don't constantly complain in threads about how bad the show is and genuinely praise its quality.
So do you genuinely disagree? Or are you a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian? Because I sincerely doubt you actually think that MD would have been better off if it continued remaining how the Pilot was, or that the Pilot was better than the episodes that came after.
..How is he wrong exactly?
>Tries to make a "get a load of this guy" post
>Post he's responding to is a generally shared sentiment by most anons that have watched both shows
You realise you're in the minority right? Who are you trying to cater that question to? That post isn't exactly a huge revelation, it's a pretty standard observation. 90% of Helluva Boss threads are anons calling the show shit or waifugays cooming.
Its almost all cooming now. The show has nothing to offer anymore, its that bad.
didnt see murder shit because is being shilled so much
you seethe about viv but she knows her public a lot an what they want
i am not one of them but that is ok , their fanbase is happy not everyone but the majority is
There have been cracks in the fanbase lately.
>source: it came to me in a dream
You weren't around for Unhappy Campers, huh?
Nah, the Moxxie episode was a little funky with people.
Unhappy Campers didn't necessarily cause a lot of drama per say, as it's nigh-universally declared as the WORST episode of the series by far.
other than the same homosexuals that hate gays no
the latest big controversy was the dogshit beelzebee design
The fanbase ate the shitty blitzo/fizz episode like a dessert
>im going to call something shit even though I just admitted I've never watched it just because people say its good
>"shill"
glad to see your opinion is worth nothing, average helluva boss fan
>"Too many people like it, therefore I think it's shit even though I've never seen it"
>"However the people that say Helluva Boss is shit or has gotten worse just aren't true fans of Viv"
Is it autism?
The only people left defending Viv are the most mentally ill.
Worse, it's an underage who thinks the fellow edgy anons of Cinemaphile will give him epic kudos for being a contrarian.
Hey, thats my post. Neat.
>It pretty much just feels like the creators of MD care way more about their show and care more about the viewers that watch it, because they actually listen. I didn't want to say "it has SOVL" but it's pretty much what I'm getting it
How exactly has it done it better? I don't watch MD so I don't know what you mean when you say they handle the same problems of Helluva better
..Maybe watch the show to see what they mean? It's not that hard, there's only 6 episodes right now. The post literally answers the question you are asking, anon.
>..Maybe watch the show to see what they mean?
If you're here to argue why it's so much better than Helluva, then explain why rather than just say it's better. Anons could use your post as copypasta and replace MD with HB and it would be the same argument, Saying
>it just is better okay?
Isn't convincing me to watch it
Now this is an actual argument
>If you're here to argue why it's so much better than Helluva, then explain why rather than just say it's better.
I'm not the anon you were originally responding to and I'm not here to argue shit, I was just saying you can answer your own question by watching the show you admitted you didn't watch. How do you expect to understand what someone is talking about if you haven't even seen the subject matter? I'm not trying to convince you of anything, it was simply a suggestion.
Probably means something like this
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139940692/#139952753
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139940692/#139953043
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139940692/#139952753
>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/139940692/#139953043
These posts pretty much sum it up honestly, MD kind of does what HB tries to do with the story and tone focus switch but actually succeeds because it's not incompetent.
Can we all agree Black Har is a shitty character
I watch Villainous for my husband (Flug)
Does he make you Flug your pants
He has a gary stu and only one emotion problem. But he is too amusing, interesting and attractive to me for that to outweigh anything and the rest of the show has no or minimal issues.
Even at helluvas best it felt like a poor mans villainous, now its juvenile and unwatchable. Too much drama and done in a shitty way. Whole thing doesnt have to be killing but theres no interesting plot. Too much stupidity. I wish it was halfway decent.
Nah. His dickery is too entertaining
Shut up homosexual
The Chad Alan Ituriel vs The Virgin Vivziepop
cancer and cringe in one image
As it becomes Friday the 13th, I wish Unhappy Campers was more of an actual parody of teen slasher flicks instead of the gay drama bullshit we got instead.
There was a neat idea about IMP assassinating a jock in a graveyard. Lightning strikes the mausoleum, the dead rise, and the episode turns into a zombie flick with references to shit like Evil Dead.
Whats with the fan stuff being infinitely better than canon?
Because canon is such a waste of potential that even fans can pitch better stuff.
LatAm and France are the only future for animation that isn't anime shit. Simple as.
>LatAm
Lmao, you must be fricking moronic if you think that
One show is produced almost entirely by homosexuals with severe mental illnesses. The other show is Villainous.
Both are cringe.
>Helluva Boss
Don't care about that show. This said, the hate it's getting is manufactured. It was clear from the start that the gay romance drama was the real plot, so all the "people" triggered by it are morons and trolls.
>Villainous
Garbage cross between OKKO and mexican telenovela animated at glacial pace. Calling it a show would be too generous, because the bulk of its content is promotional ARG crap that will never get a true payoff. In the 10 years of its existence only 6 actual episodes came out, so there's only 1 hour's worth of "show" that has little to do with all the crap teased before. It's also obvious that this "show" will never get a real ending or uncover its mysteries so the whole thing is literally pointless. It's just some weird vanity project that exists as a vehicle for the creator's crappy deviantart OCs dabbing on other legitimate shows. The hat guy is one of the worst mary sue donut steels I've seen in my life.
>It was clear from the start that the gay romance drama was the real plot
You sure about that buddy?
Yes. It's made by a furgay fujo, and the gay romance shit is right there in the first episode. What exactly were you expecting?
I point to all of this;
And your going to tell me it was always meant to be a gay romance show despite the evidence suggesting otherwise? Get real.
Yes. It looks so gay that I can't look at it without cringing, and the creator is the kind of woman who loves making all of her characters gay. I repeat the question: what exactly were you expecting?
Cope harder. Quit lying to yourself, it's just embarrassing now.
THIS.
>Calling it a show would be too generous, because the bulk of its content is promotional ARG crap that will never get a true payoff. In the 10 years of its existence only 6 actual episodes came out, so there's only 1 hour's worth of "show" that has little to do with all the crap teased before.
Makes me so mad how true this is. I want a SHOW. I want animated episodes. Not instagram posts and books and websites to piece together lore that in the end means nothing with the main product.
>It's just some weird vanity project that exists as a vehicle for the creator's crappy deviantart OCs dabbing on other legitimate shows. The hat guy is one of the worst mary sue donut steels I've seen in my life.
This is also true. Black Hat went from a fun classic villain who is strong in his own universe to a DONUT STEEL overpowered OC who can destroy ever CN villain. Why? His portrayal in the shorts were much better.
I think the love that Helluva Boss gets is more manufactured than anything. You got Youtubers who defend it and refuse to criticize it in any way.
I don't think Vivziepop's career happened organically either.
Seems to me-
-the show was-
-always meant to be a-
-a comedy show about demon hitmen.
I don't know how more freaking obvious you got to be. Stolas isn't even in the pitch.
All this time wasted making multiple posts to still be wrong. This is a pitch about the main characters but that doesn't mean Vivzie wasn't planning on adding gay romance and it overtaking the show. The premise is more set dressing for the gay romance than the actual plot.
Not that anon, but, basically what you're saying is the pilot was a trojan horse?
>Shows multiple posts providing proof of the pitch that literally goddamn tells us that it was supposed to be a comedy first, the FIRST PIC even shows that and teases being a "Mockumentary? Possibly!"
>"i didn't read so ur wrong still"
Read the goddamn posts, you moron. Is your head so far up your ass that you deny all sense and logic for the sake of believing that the show was always meant to be a gay soap opera when it so obviously wasn't? Did you even read anything I sent?
Obviously not.
It wasn't, it was always meant to be comedy, read the actual pitch that's been revealed;
Only defenders of Vivziepop actually claim that it was always meant to be some gay soap opera, when evidence points to the contrary.
>It wasn't, it was always meant to be comedy, read the actual pitch that's been revealed
Thats what I'm getting at, either the show was meant to be a comedy first, or the pilot is a trojan horse with the fujo homosexualry snuck in behind it. Its one or the other.
I don't believe Vivzie is that smart to cook up a scheme like that, so I'm more inclined to believe the former. Daily reminder she admitted she doesn't plan things out and she just kinds of goes "what the fans want to see most of".
Although I'm having doubts on the that, because most fans (besides the Xitter fans) that I know are getting sick of the constant gay drama.
It will get more egregious when Hazbin comes out and the whole premise the pilot centered around is dumped by the mid-season finale and Charlie becomes a secondary character compared to Alastor, Angel, and perhaps Husk.
And then Viv defenders will come out and claim it was always meant to be about them anyway.
It was always a gooner show.
ITT: Xitter refugees try to convince us that Helluva Boss was always about le quirky gay drama
Nah I'm just mad autism snake was sexually harassed and then btfo'd. RIP Sir Pentious.
wheres the "unsolicited opinion by self admitted schizo" guy? Im a bit worried he shouldve posted already
Colin speaking the holy gospel as usual.
It'll improve
>It'll improve
Don't lie to yourself.
A man can dream
No it won't improve until HB ditches Stolas and gets new writers who are more competent.
And Erica Lindbeck is MIA.
Don't care, sex with Black Hat.
Get outta here, Demencia.