Here are all the "What a Cartoon!" pilots that got picked up for a show. Do you think there was a WaC short that got snubbed and should've been picked out over any of these? Or do you think these were the correct 6 shows to greenlight?
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Not snubbed per se cause I generally loved all the Cartoon Cartoons that aired except maybe Robot Jones, it just didnt' jive too much with me but I would've loved a Mina and the Count show.
This guy went on to make Teenage Robot
I'd say it was a fair trade
I don't disagree but I wish we could've still had Mina and the Count as a B segment in Teenage Robot.
Is Rob Renzetti the most screwed over Cinemaphile creator?
>Friends with Genndy in college
>Worked with him and Craig through a lot of his early career
>All three submit shorts to What a Cartoon
>Both there’s get picked up, his rejected by both CN and Nick
>Pitch many shorts to latter network in Oh Yeah Cartoons
>Only one gets picked up
>Get screwed by the network immediately and dies with little fanfare
>Has basically worked on friends’ shows ever since
Feel bad for him man.
>Rob Rezentii
But no, that award goes to Greenblatt
I haven't seen it in a while but I remember Rob mentioning in this vid that he much preferred working on other people's shows as it was much less stressful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fi7yvSjoWo
Rodney Greenblatt? Always liked his art, what happened with him?
Missing Larry and Steve, which became Family Guy.
I am Weasel is by far the worst, and Mina and the Count would have been superior. The others are great, IaW is just mediocre.
IAW wasn't a WAC pilot, was it? It was always combined with Cow and Chicken until it spun off its own show, since Cow and Chicken was ending/not getting renewed anyway.
It wasn't. It was only made because Cow and Chicken needed a B segment, as every Hanna-Barbera show at the time needed one. It started development in January 1996, around when C&C was starting production.
Honestly, I miss that. It added variety. PPG was the only CC under the H-B banner that didn't have a B-segment, was it? But PPG was wrong enough to carry a whole half hour with two segments. None of the newer cartoons imo have been strong enough for that, a B segment would be a nice pace breaker and keep other segments more straight to the point.
Pretty sure Weasel is considered better than Cow and Chicken by majority and e-celebs since it has more creative plots and doesn't rely on constant screaming and groussout. I know that Maxwell Atoms prefered to work on that one over C&C.
>I know that Maxwell Atoms prefered to work on that one over C&C.
Maxwell Atoms said that the dynamic of Grim, Mandy and Billy was inspired by The Red Guy, Weasel and Baboon, Grim was originally supossed to be the devil but CN didn't allow that so he changed it to another afterlife related being and he became the Grim Reaper
Curious, considering CN already had Sack Pantless and Him. I guess they thought three satans were too much.
Him was originally called The Devil, CN made them change it to HIM instead which still gets the point across, HIM's early design had horns and a tail too
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>Doctor Mojo Jojo's got an electrified dead dog's head
I liked IM Weasel, I think it was the best out of all the Ren & Stimpy inspired shorts, after all David Feiss used to work at Spumco and did animation for the first Ren & Stimpy season
I liked both C&C and IM Weasel, but I've noticed for the past 5 or 7 years people shitting on them more and more. I've been even rewatching them, it makes me laugh.
But yeah, both C&C and IMW were also notorious for being the only then-modern cartoon John K actually praised. I wonder if that's partly why people now shit on those.
If you take a look at John K's old blog he straight up said that Cow & Chicken/IM Weasel was the funniest cartoon of the 90s
David Feiss also shows up in the "Ren & Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon" DVD alongside John
It goes deeper than that. David Feiss worked on Tiny Toons (Genndy too), but both were never credited for their work. Years later he made a Weasel episode about cartoons cliches and fourth wall breaks that his line:
>"And to make matters worse, you're using old scripts! Look! You crossed out "Bugs Bunny," then "Buster," then scribbled in "Weasel!"
Since Tiny Toons just rehashed shit from Looney Tunes blatantly.
It's funny too since Charlie Adler was the voice of Buster Bunny, but was later fired and replaced by John Kassir. So both were screwed by Spielberg/WB.
I could have done with a brief Buzz Cheeply series, myself.
No way a full series would be as nicely animated as the pilot.
How were the What a Cartoon pilots chosen back then?
Some were chosen because kids/viewers had to vote for them and other like Courage were chosen by the network
Not being american, and the internet not being common during the days of Dexter, did they call a toll-free 01-800 or something?
How was Johnny Bravo chosen? The whole history behind that show is a mystery. Van Partible doesn’t like talking about it for some reason.
The story is that someone from Hanna-Barbera saw Van Partible's "Mess O' Blues" short and he liked it so they made 2 Johnny pilots for What a Cartoon and they have him the greenlit for a show after Dexter (the first short to be picked up for a series) did well enough in ratings, he is ashamed of "Mess O' Blues" and he considers it his worst work so her refuses to share it as long as he is alive as if his work on Johnny Bravo's season 4 and Johnny Bravo goes to Bollywood was any good instea dof straight up dogshit
I thought Bollywood was a funny send of using the meta-angle of "Johnny was an actor in a show all along".
But S4 was dogshit, I agree.
>the bottom shows have more consistent quality between seasons than the top ones
Top shows had their creators replaced during their runs too.
The only one that benefitted from it was Johnny Bravo.
the lack of replies ITT replaces me, it's just a proof of the passage of time and how Cinemaphile has been displaced by the younger generation
Agreed, Courage was pretty consistent, Dexter and PPG went to shit once they changed the showrunners
I disagree with PPG going outright to shit, it was still fun enough, but didn't reach the highs it did before.
Now, Dexter? THAT went to shit. I rather pretend post-Ego Trip Dexter is a different show.
I found funny how they only picked Courage after the short was nominated for an Academy Award
Wait, it was shown at cinemas?
I think he meant an Emmy, but it was well-deserved either way. The pilot is kino.
and Cow and Chicken was nominated for an Emmy. People like to shit on it alot, but it was easily the best show animation-wise. Certaintly more than Dexter and Johnny Bravo.
No he is right
>The short was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Animated Short Film at the 68th Academy Awards, but lost to the Wallace and Gromit short film A Close Shave.
I feel bad for David Feiss. Most experienced craetor they had, and CN just ditched him, not even being part of CN Studios. At last he found success in recent years.
He works for Sony now, right?
I know he did the character designs for Open Season and Hotel Trasylvania
Patrick Ventura found zero success