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is this supposed to be for the Milesgays or MCUgays ?
Milesgays has always been higher in the self importance totem.
What, like Miles is some kind of treasure? Lmao, please.
I don't know man, a zoomer Miles would be a good spider-buddy to the zoomer Peter we have
yes, Spider-Man in general is one of Sony's most profitable franchise
>yes, Spider-Man in general is one of Sony's most profitable franchise
Including Spider-Verse! Just, you know, on a MUCH smaller scale than Spider-Man. Seeing as we've never had a Spider-Man movie go beneath 700 million until Miles came along, and this latest jaunt is looking to come in about 2-300 million under that as well, I can't imagine any sane company would seriously consider removing a surefire bank for someone with such tepid reception.
Then again this is Sony so look forwards to them crashing and burning the franchise AGAIN and wondering how it all went wrong, AGAIN. Round 4 baby lets go!
they won't pull the race card and put Peele or Coogler to direct
live action is a different beast than animation. There are tons of normies who don't watch cartoons that will see a black Spiderman and be like WTF.
I think a live action Miles would bomb badly.
>I think a live action Miles would bomb badly.
Remember when everyone on Cinemaphile was convinced Black Panther was going to bomb? Twice?
It probably won't surpass thre other spidey films but it'd do fine. Probably better than ASM2.
The only way it would even come close to ASM2, which is already more than double the first Spider-Verse and about 300-250 more than the sequel is projected to make, is if they don't kill off Peter. Face it, every single time they kill off a beloved character for a replacement, it craters in the second week and has 0 legs. This has happened every single time, including your own example of Black Panther 2, and that one wasn't even something they could fix, he was dead for reals and it still had terrible legs especially compared to the first. Even Star Wars, the previously most bulletproof franchise, wasn't safe from a still to this day legendary drop when they killed off Luke in the second movie. If Star Wars can't keep itself from a 152 million second weekend drop and overall 732 million sequel drop, there's no way Spider-Man would survive killing off Tom for Miles, there's just never been a time when it worked.
>is if they don't kill off Peter.
Why would you assume they would? My assumption was they would do what Insomniac did and just have the two share the role.
If they are dumb enough to kill Tom Holland Peter than yeah, I actually agree with you.
So basically, we'll never know how Miles would perform on his own the way we'll know if Sam can carry Captain America in Brand New World
Yeah, pretty much.
>Remember when everyone on Cinemaphile was convinced Black Panther was going to bomb? Twice?
black audiences don't even like Miles all that much
https://deadline.com/2023/06/box-office-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-1235398807/
>Great PostTrak audience exits prevail with 93% positive and an 82% recommend among general audiences. Still, guy-leaning at 63%, with 61% between 18-34 and the biggest demo turnout being 18-24 year olds at 40%. Very strong diversity demos, with 34% Latino and Hispanic, 27% Caucasian, 22% Black and 17% Asian/other. Across the Spider-Verse was strong everywhere, but most prominently in the East and West.
There's no overindexing like with Black Panther. Miles isn't "cool" like Blade or Luke Cage: Hero for Hire.
He's a corny, soft effete dork who goes to a prep school and has a cop dad and white (fe)male love interest. He's more popular with Redditors than actual black audiences.
Miles would flop. Same happened with Kamala Khan.
Bendis effectively made a black Peter while simultaneously taking away everything that made Peter interesting
>Remember when everyone on Cinemaphile was convinced Black Panther was going to bomb? Twice?
then why aren't black audiences over-indexing turnout for Miles Morales like Black Panther?
This shows people like Spiderverse for the quality of the films, not because a character has a certain skin color. You just destroyed yourself.
>Miles is not popular and that's a good thing!
Guys, I think we broke them.
Into the Spiderverse Peter's merchandise Consistently out sold Miles merch. I hate Miles but the movies are entertaining. I can enjoy a movie while hating the character
>samegayging
Guys, I really broke him. Cannot wait for more trans girls besides Gwen.
I only made one of those, and why am I not surprised you have a closet trans fetish.
Milesgay is broken
>samegay
Nah.
>You edited it!
I'm not smart enough for that.
I do feel geniunly bad for Petergays. Your character has been utterly raped to death by its own company and the best thing the IP has done is without him and now a small cult following wants him replaced despite the same people that have ruined Peter clearly don't know how to write Miles either and Spiderverse was just a lightning in a bottle thing.
I'm really sorry dude. But don't blame other things being good for other people making shit.
>and the best thing the IP has done is without him
Spiderman 2 featured Peter
No Way Home was "Oops all Peters" even, and the entire second half was "Hey lets spend our time showcasing how great Peter is."
No Way Home was Marvel admitting that they fricked up with their own Peter. The other two Spider-Men had better villains, stories, the whole shebang.
You gonna try and counter how I used your own argument against you or not?
It's not my argument and you only admitted it's strictly a race play thing, schizo-kun.
that other person wasn't me
>This shows people like Spiderverse for the quality of the films, not because a character has a certain skin color. You just destroyed yourself.
Miles audience is a group of young Latinx and urban white sois, as well as young kids who are the market for standard animated movies. There was no big general public mass appeal.
On top of that, he had to be heavily propped up by the pre-existing Spiderman brand to carry him, which brought a lot of those demographics to begin with (like Hispanics and Mario).
On top of ALL of that - despite the hip-hop, despite the graffiti, despite the articles talking about Miles being important for Afro-latino representation, despite the heavy outreach to black celebrities - Miles couldn't spike black turnout.
>urban white sois
Where did it say that, specifically?
>Latinx
Liberal Hispanic Americans? The term is appropriate.
I like Spiderverse. Simple as that.
>On top of ALL of that - despite the hip-hop, despite the graffiti, despite the articles talking about Miles being important for Afro-latino representation, despite the heavy outreach to black celebrities - Miles couldn't spike black turnout.
Miles is for corny soft effete dork, the type of black dude popular with Redditors. Think Childish Gambino (Donald Glover) and Logic.
That won't hold up in a solo live action film.
Remember that Gwen is trans and Miles loves that white troony wiener
What does this even mean? Am I stupid?
it's a really gentle way of saying "a live action miles morales film is going to suck balls especially when they don't have the dazzling animation to back it up"
Who could direct a Miles film so that it didn't suck? Could they get Raimi back?
Raimi hated working with VENOM because he has no part in his idea of peters story, why would he want to work on a character whose only part in the story is being a limp wristed replacement?
Raimi hates bulbasaurs
Miles entire concept is trash. He has to either replace Peter as spider-man, he has to compete with Peter as his sidekick while Peter himself is still a young hero, or he has to be mentored by an older Peter while competing with his daughter mayday for the spot of his heir.
Miles literally cannot exist. To exist, he has to damage something about Peter or Spider-Man at his own expense.
If you make miles independent, then this is already different from being entirely dependent on Peter, which is the only reason he can exist. If he exists on his own why not just make Peter anyway? Miles doesn’t have any stories to adapt and any new stories is jsut meta shit involving Peter or the spider verse. You literally can’t do anything with thin.
Peter doesn't have any kids in canon. Not to mention that by the time any hypothetical Parker kid is a teen Miles would be in his thirties.
Well I mean he does, she’s just assumed to be dead
Wasn't the whole purpose of Miles was to replace Ultimate Peter who had died?
He was never meant to compete with Peter, he was meant to be his replacement.
Bendis himself literally admitted as much, yes.
How come Bendis never gets called out for these characters? Miles, Riri, that stupid Green Lantern in his Superman run. They're all hamfisted stupidities. Is it because they're black and he's israeli?
It's because they're black and his adopted daughters are black.
What does that title even mean? Besides, what's the point of putting Miles in the MCU when their Peter Parker is already a mix of Peter and Miles?
>Implying they won't pull the race card and put Peele or Coogler to direct
Seriously tho I think Raimi could do a decent Miles film, I guess it all could depend in which universe it's set in.
>Buck-breaking. Buck-breaking. Buck-breaking. That's what you've chosen. I offered you the role of my house Black person and you spat in my face.
>Could they get Raimi back?
why the frick would he want to direct a Miles movie?
Spike Lee
try reading the article instead of stopping at the headline
>no link to the article
>try reading the article
Have you forgotten how to google or quote search?
Do you do this? Do you google the clickbait titles of articles that people post as OPs so you can read the whole thing?
>try reading the article instead of stopping at the headline
If the headline doesn't clearly convey the thesis of the article, it's a shit headline and likely clickbait.
Will not read.
go back gay
People have lost faith in the MCU at the point they're no longer excited of one of their favorite characters hitting the big screen, instead they worry it be shit and damage the characters popularity
Go broke go woke
>Sony's greed will kill Miles Morales.
It would be really fricking funny if they ran him into the ground and that caused normalgay fans to turn on him.
They’re too brainwashed, they’ll worship miles if he kills Peter and replaces him - oh wait
The idea that he could be gay is causing some normals to turn on him.
Who cares? Miles just wants to shove anal beads in his own butt and get prolapses from Gwen's white troony wiener.
This pic cannot be real.
Why? Miles needs to prepare his butt for Gwen.
It's probably something like Japanese dango, although it appears to be a Chinese poseter.
>Not translucent
They are anal beads
You mean in your fantasy? No matter how much poltards spam the trans thing, it won't stick. Everyone is saying Gwen is a girl and people are delusional. You will never win, ever.
The desperation is palpable, what a gold mine this garbage, half of a movie turned out to be.
Another fantasy? Universal acclaim and lotsa money and still not even a week out.
Do they mean the MCU is too good to let MM in, or that it's too bad?
i don't get it
I agree.
It doesn't need another terrible version of Spider-Man.
I won't say "MCU is healing" but if true, it avoided an asbestos enema.
MCU is dying, Spiders are thriving. If anything.
>damage control
Please, check out how much NWH made and how much this shit is doing.
>best opening day of the year
>2nd best animated opening of all time
Damn, Spiders keep winning.
>check out how much NWH made thanks to Sony
Fixed.
>gets BTFO
>proceeds to move the goalpost
Classic loser. Stay seething while i'll ignore you.
>Classic loser. Stay seething while i'll ignore you.
>Wojack: The last, desperate act of a dying man.
>wojack
Ah, the best way to let people know you are a seething, crying moron. What was the thing that triggered you the most? The realization that Sony wouldn't sell for shit if it wasn't for the MCU brand? Don't worry, all of those movies suck. But the fact that you are so royal to a parasite that is living off Disney's shit is hilarious.
Is that the best you can do?
>thanks to Sony
Yeah because all the other Spider projects Sony is doing are doing so well, right? Even for Venom they had to trick people into thinking he was going to join the MCU to bait people into watching it. The tried the same bait but with Garfield's Spider-Man universe when they released Morbius but it didn't work for shit. Its almost like people don't give a shit about Sony.
Oh, not to mention they had to reference the MCU in this animated crap too. They can't live without it.
>the MCU will never admit they need Sony as much as vice versa
Because it's true. I know how "well" Sony was doing without Disney and i know how much Disney was doing without Sony.
It's not anyone's fault if you are a moronic drone that thinks Disney NEEDED Sony, they just wanted to say they also have Spider-Man, that's all.
>you are a moronic drone
Says Ladderbro.
b***h please, Sony stopped all of their planned production for the Amazing universe once Faige proposed the deal, they were a joke and they still are. All Disney did was throw them a bone.
>Disney approached Sony first
So Disney were the desperate ones
W-wait I didn't mean nono AAAAHHH
>Miles won't replace Peter
>okay Miles can have animated movies Peter still has the live action ones
>okay Miles should replace him in the live action ones Peter still has the games
>okay Miles should replace him in the games as well Peter still..
I wish I could have one of these people explain publicly what makes Miles so good
>When MCU is going hot
WHERE IS OUR MILES MORALES MOVIE, DONALD GLOVER SHOULD BE MILES
>When MCU is crashing and burning
KEEP MILES AWAY FROM IT
This is all forgetting that Miles was only made as lovable as he is by spider-verse.
He's not even lovable, people are mistaking the distracting animation and the rich mythos that bends around him to make him look good for actual character traits, he doesn't bring any of that with him, look how boring he is in the game
>He's not even lovable, people are mistaking the distracting animation and the rich mythos that bends around him to make him look good for actual character traits
100% this
Yep. I enjoy the movies for everything they do, except Miles
>look how boring he is in the game
Watching people try to pretend that Miles is a compelling character in the Insomniac games is fricking hysterical because he has /nothing/ going on. He is inferior to Peter in every way but they insist on pushing him as the next Spider-Man.
lol, do you people still think its 2016 and MCU and Disney in general are raking in the money?
>MCU and Disney in general are raking in the money?
yes
I think you might be in need of a reality check, friendo.
Don't remind them that Santa doesn't exist, anon.
Disney is dying.
Miles is a fricking blight. I was ambivalent to his presence before, but now his fans need to shut their fricking mouths. He will NEVER replace Peter.
I wouldn't put it like that.
It's more like Marvel doesn't deserve Phil and Lord.
Especially after what happened with Solo.
>Phil and Lord
The people who fricked the Spider-Man IP beyond repair to push the Poochie?
No, Marvel killed him since the 90's because of their obsession to make Peter "relatable" and put him in a state of arrested development.
It feels like the people who hate Spiderverse the most are people projecting the fact that Spiderman has been a never ending stream of shit since the Clone Saga and only gotten downhill from there and are now mad Miles is getting such good reception.
Don't blame Phile and Lord, blame the hacks in Marvel.
Clone Saga is still better than any Miles story though
>never ending stream of shit since the Clone Saga and only gotten downhill from there
Yeah, a lot of things are. I just wrote that.
At the end of the day nobody gives a shit about comics and for good fricking reason. When people say they want "more Miles" what they mean is "More Spiderverse Miles". And as hard as you seethe the two Spiderverse movies are immensely better than a good chunk of Spidey and really Marvel comics the past two and a half decades.
Nah we've been getting quality Spider-Man media since the 90s despite Marvel's best efforts to kill him off, Lord and Miller placing the spotlight on Poochie-Man and using the multiverse to excuse him raised the stakes beyond what Spider-Man should be and now there's no going back since every Spider-Man creator wants the woke cred they got for Spider-Verse
African exhaustion is real.
"Wow, more AA people. Great."
It's hard to have a dazzling display on the movie screen when you can't drown out the brown.
Considering the way things are going now with Bud Light and target, the Pendlum is finally shifting
>every company got rid of the pride logo 3 days into pride month
That homie miles gets his ass stretched by a troony
They've been setting up a live action Miles movie since 2017. It's weird that people are only now worried it might come out.
Because Miles was still hated and didnt sell and that's still the case but now they can just call people racist and get ESG money
>get ESG money
Is there some proof of this conspiracy theory?
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental,_social,_and_corporate_governance#:~:text=Environmental%2C%20social%2C%20and%20corporate%20governance%20(ESG)%2C%20also,the%20context%20of%20corporate%20governance.
Let me rephrase, do you have credible proof?
Companies brag about it openly
At no point does he say ESG will hand them a check to use how they want. This is a video for shareholders for investing in the company. They don't use that money like a bank account. Do you have credible proof or not?
https://fintel.io/so/us/dis/blackrock
Black owns a stake in Disney and Black Rock gives loans to companies they own a stake in
>and oversees the Federal Reserve
You keep getting the proof you ask for and you keep dismissing it
nta, I was adding to your post
Yes, hedge funds invest in companies. They give loans expecting it back. If they don't think they can pay it back they won't give it, or expect to own more of the company if defaulting on loans. Still no proof about how these companies are given blank checks. This is why Cinemaphile despises /misc/.
Larry Fink lost several trillion dollars so it's safe to say he's giving away money to anyone bowing to his ESG agenda regardless of whether they're turning a profit
Do you know how businesses work? All businesses need loans to meet their overhead until money comes in and Black Rock is literally the largest financier in the world. They created ESG to determine how a company qualifies for loans
They're gonna turn it into generic live-action slop
I honestly thought they would go with Miles after Peter died in infinity war
Who is gonna get casted as transsexual icon Gwen Stacy?