I don't know even know why the right likes him. He spends most of the time singing the same shit breadtube says. Minus hating on people on foodstamps which are probably his target audience.
Maybe because he wrote a song shitting on people on Government assistance then proceeded to do media tours on news networks ran by rich men north of Richmond
What do you mean? A massive majority of the fandom has to be minors.
It's rather frightening if any actual adults wear merch for this shit in public, or discuss it around others in person at work or something. Biggest walking red flag.
>It's rather frightening if any actual adults wear merch for this shit in public, or discuss it around others in person at work or something. Biggest walking red flag.
This describes almost all Cinemaphile media
How come people are able to portray God, Satan, multiple named angels, and the Seven Deadly Sins in any way they want but the instant Vivz draws some anthro as Beelzebub, it's suddenly off-limits? I'm sure I can find a dozen books, anime, small video games, or indie comics that have really abstract and weird interpretations of Beelzebub.
>be vivize >build bee motif with Beelzebub >make her a fricking loona reskin >get surprised when people are disappointed
That’s pretty much it
reskin
You’re really reaching here. They are both female and canid and that’s about where the similarity ends. You might as well say all the imps are reskins of each other.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't watch Vivzie's shitty shows but I have a Loona porn folder and when I saw this thread I thought it was her super form or something.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>They are both female and canid and that’s about where the similarity ends.
I have eyes, moron
The other hellhounds at the party were more visually distinct from loona than Bee was
Honestly when every other character has a big toothy grin or a huge maw it'd be ironic for the lord of gluttony to not have a mouth, or at least one that isn't readily visible
Of course she did, in fact, she got really pissy when people criticized this, and started to make donzens of designs a LOT better than hers
If they got more of a party vibe I would prefer these. Like fox-bee looks like a party girl who you would think is gluttonous.
Also Vivzie's animation has a lot of face movement. For her energetic style you gotta give her a mouth.
Genuinely word's cannot express the amount of pure hatred for this.
Taking one of the greatest designs of all time and making it a mouthless emotionless insect fills me with so much rage I can't stand it.
Beelzebub is by far my favorite demon in Christian mythology.
I always loved the idea of these extremely powerful entities being fine with appearing in weak or unassuming forms, and taking the time to use their powers against ordinary people despite their high statuses.
I was really exited to see how they would depict him, and this super OC angst character just feels insulting compared to what can be done with a character like this.
I don't know what else to call it.
If you put the small, disgusting fly next to this young-adult party-animal fursona, you can plainly see that it's just a completely different character with the same name.
She also resembles something from the creators older work when she was younger, like the die young music video.
You obviously didn't even see this episode then, Beelzebub is actually genuinely nice and social, and is the complete opposite of Loona, who is a complete anti-social b***h. I was expecting Bee to be an evil c**t, but it was a nice surprise that she was extremely sweet and wholesome.
How come people are able to portray God, Satan, multiple named angels, and the Seven Deadly Sins in any way they want but the instant Vivz draws some anthro as Beelzebub, it's suddenly off-limits? I'm sure I can find a dozen books, anime, small video games, or indie comics that have really abstract and weird interpretations of Beelzebub.
It's that her art is so bad she's ripping off her earlier OC, which itself was stolen from other artists on DeviantART.
Basically she's not just a hack, she can't even rip off more talented people any more.
Even if Hazbin comes out and is an abomination, or is just OK at best, expect Vivzie fans to give it 10/10 reviews regardless because they have already invested a large chunk of their lives waiting for this. And they made it part of their identities now, so they will cope even if it turns out to be terrible.
Imagine trying to draw/write for Bezelbub, but rather than going with a hot bug-girl design, you just make her a Hellhound with bee wings and bee motifs.
We get it Viv, you like animals, now stop with the anthroshit and give the viewers shit they actually want
God this insufferable cow. Look at these freaks. Not counting Marc Bolan on the end there. These perverts and freaks think they are better than you. These bloated ugly women and creepy israelites.
lol look how tiny Adam's feet are. Its almost comical. Fat schulb put on his best ill fitting jeans and mismatched clothes for the night. Look at Brandon does he have AIDS? What the hell?
Lackadaisy cosplay is basically high Art Deco glamour from the 1920s as opposed to the Hellaverse cosplays which is always creepy fat literal morons in gay BDSM costumes.
>good evening. my name is tod berling. >this woman, Vivienne Medrano, you could say is right now having one of the happiest days of her life. >Her show has just one a streamy award, and all her friends are there to celebrate with her. But this does not change the fact, that in a cruel twist of irony, her true dream project is and seemingly will remain in what they call production hell. >And on the topic of hell: Some say hell is other people. If such a thing is true then Viv is most certainly one of those people so hellish that even life starts to smell of sulfur. >The lives of viv and her colleagues, much like the show they've created, are a hall of mirrors of the typical liberal millennial neuroses that if left unconfronted, will take them down a road to a place where anything that can go wrong will go wrong, shocking nobody but themselves. >Once again, some would call that a living hell. But here? We call it the twilight Cinemaphilene.
Lackadaisy had far better animation than that stupid pointy version of the Calarts style with its edgy gay demons. Helluva Boss just drips with estrogen and gay rectal juices.
If you went back to 1942 and showed the Allied powers what would be by 2023 they would have laid down their arms and joined Hitler. Look at these revolting fat israelites. He was right about literally everything.
I miss Dave.
You guys remember Dave, right? He wrote originally for the Hazbin pilot, he wrote that Alastor song.
While the pilot writing wasn't stellar, amaturish even, it was helluva lot better than Helluva's writing, especially in season 2.
I wonder what happened to him. I think Viv axed him along the original VA's after show got picked up by A24.
Viv's a frickin' sell out.
Based Dave, the true indie gigachad and fat frick supreme.
Glad to hear he's still kicking after Vivzie sold out.
He's got a semblence of soul and genuine passion in his stuff, at least from what i gathered from his contributions to HH pilot. which were arguably the best parts.
Comes complete with cutesy cartoon version of himself self inserted into an episode he uses as his Twitter profile pic. Why do fat ugly people always do this? Use cartoon characters to represent themselves on social media?
They hate themselves and they love themselves.
Many such cases, hollow people the lot of 'em.
I mean, tbf she was up against a bunch of literal who solo animators, of course she was going to win. The nominees probably knew they were screwed the minute they were announced.
yeah tbh brandon would look better if he went for the scruffy guyliner alt-rock look instead of the glam draggy look. red lipstick and purple eyeshadow do not look good with his skintone
Even aside from the confused sparkledog aesthetic, I hate how toothless Viv's Hell is with supposed demons. >demon lord of gluttony says intoxicate yourself in moderation, kids!
This shit is gay as frick. In the figurative way, not the literal way like the rest of the show.
This is information I only found out after the show lured me in by pretending to be more interesting. I don't start paying attention to creator drama until I get sucked into the show itself.
>Beelzebub >Lord of Flies >The Unclean One >Prince of Idolatry >Master of the Domains of both Gluttony and Envy >one third of the Unholy Trinity alongside Lucifer and Leviathan >represented here as a low-rent sparkledog fox furry with bumblebee wings
You know, every so often one of my idiot friends will ask me why I don't like Vivziepop and like fricking clockwork one of these threads pops up and I can say: "This. This is why. This horseshit right here."
>wants bee theming >can't commit to making an actual fricking bee, just throws a few design elements onto another sparkledog >completely ignores the fly theming often put on Beelzebub
God I hate Viv.
>loud, gaudy sense of fashion >tanks their professional reputation by being unduly antagonistic and reflexive on twitter >started off more apolitical but after breakout success started pandering more and more to their very specific demographic of politicsbrained teenagers >creates drama in their professional field by victimizing themselves >signed their career off to a production company that only appeals to one side of the political millennial divide >piggybacks off creators and industry talent way out of their league to artificially elevate their own entry-level ideas >has visibly deteriorated over the years from issues with diet and possibly drugs
I miss Chaz....I will never forget asking Adam Neylan about him on Twitter and he was so snarky and b***hy and I dunno....just made it hard to keep watching this show knowing Viv wasn't;t the only mean fat b***h writing for the show.
He was the fat unfunny guy in Brandon Rogers vids. He played the other lesbian in that running sketch about the dysfunctional lesbian couple with a piece of shit son. He was never funny. Irritatingly annoying fat israelite.
Comes complete with cutesy cartoon version of himself self inserted into an episode he uses as his Twitter profile pic. Why do fat ugly people always do this? Use cartoon characters to represent themselves on social media?
Those sexy rich men
north of Richmond
Seriously why did this triggered breadtube? They sure hate the working class for being so called communists and socialists.
He’s a government plant
I don't know even know why the right likes him. He spends most of the time singing the same shit breadtube says. Minus hating on people on foodstamps which are probably his target audience.
Maybe because he wrote a song shitting on people on Government assistance then proceeded to do media tours on news networks ran by rich men north of Richmond
Jesus, why is this shit everywhere now? It's like ponies for a new decade.
Teenage girls and older women that refuse to accept that they are no longer teenage girls
im prefer simpler girl
im wanna go BACK too. being adult sucks
LOONA SEX
sauce?
https://twitter.com/Dreamkeepers/status/1696353439624671673?s=20
Thn why are so many loona fans?
What do you mean? A massive majority of the fandom has to be minors.
It's rather frightening if any actual adults wear merch for this shit in public, or discuss it around others in person at work or something. Biggest walking red flag.
>It's rather frightening if any actual adults wear merch for this shit in public, or discuss it around others in person at work or something. Biggest walking red flag.
This describes almost all Cinemaphile media
I haven't seen much of it in public bar the odd pin I see in the college near my office. At Pride thought, there was a lot of t-shirts and stuff.
I got falsely accused of rape by a girl after watching a few episodes of this show
The fandom has to be at least 40 percent BPD women
fixed
Does Vivze know about this?
Of course she did, in fact, she got really pissy when people criticized this, and started to make donzens of designs a LOT better than hers
wow a bee how creative. truly this some how better or whatever.
>be vivize
>build bee motif with Beelzebub
>make her a fricking loona reskin
>get surprised when people are disappointed
That’s pretty much it
reskin
You’re really reaching here. They are both female and canid and that’s about where the similarity ends. You might as well say all the imps are reskins of each other.
I don't watch Vivzie's shitty shows but I have a Loona porn folder and when I saw this thread I thought it was her super form or something.
>They are both female and canid and that’s about where the similarity ends.
I have eyes, moron
The other hellhounds at the party were more visually distinct from loona than Bee was
>make her a fricking loona reskin
*JayJay reskin
Honestly when every other character has a big toothy grin or a huge maw it'd be ironic for the lord of gluttony to not have a mouth, or at least one that isn't readily visible
Bee lzebub really is just Super Saiyan 3 JayJay
>no mouth
>gluttony
>I like this
>But I want to frick this
2nd that
If they got more of a party vibe I would prefer these. Like fox-bee looks like a party girl who you would think is gluttonous.
Also Vivzie's animation has a lot of face movement. For her energetic style you gotta give her a mouth.
>demon lord of gluttony
>no mouth
How come some of the people trying to dunk on Viv manage to come out with dumber shit than her
She drinks with her vegana
>vegana dentata
>nobody knows Beelzebub was a fly rather than a bee
Genuinely word's cannot express the amount of pure hatred for this.
Taking one of the greatest designs of all time and making it a mouthless emotionless insect fills me with so much rage I can't stand it.
>one of the greatest designs of all time
:I
>Taking one of the greatest designs of all time
delusional. meds sproke and wasp wasp ocean NOW.
You have to be at least 18 to post on Cinemaphile. I refuse to believe that anyone besides a child or a total moron would think this.
>generic sparkledog
>one of the greatest designs of all time
b8
Nope not bait frick off I don't compromise.
I genuinely wish furries would neck themselves
Hey Viv
Sorry about Lackadaisy
>She made Beezlebub based on a bee? That's so dumb
>Now check out my redesign where I made her completely a bee
Still not the Lord of the Flies.
Beelzebub is by far my favorite demon in Christian mythology.
I always loved the idea of these extremely powerful entities being fine with appearing in weak or unassuming forms, and taking the time to use their powers against ordinary people despite their high statuses.
I was really exited to see how they would depict him, and this super OC angst character just feels insulting compared to what can be done with a character like this.
Angst?
I don't know what else to call it.
If you put the small, disgusting fly next to this young-adult party-animal fursona, you can plainly see that it's just a completely different character with the same name.
She also resembles something from the creators older work when she was younger, like the die young music video.
Thanks for the very original take, you definitely didn't just Ctrl+C Ctrl+V this from Twitter.
I prefer my demon girls less furry, thank you.
Every character in this show is the same.
You obviously didn't even see this episode then, Beelzebub is actually genuinely nice and social, and is the complete opposite of Loona, who is a complete anti-social b***h. I was expecting Bee to be an evil c**t, but it was a nice surprise that she was extremely sweet and wholesome.
Hazbin hotel when? Summer is almost over.
How come people are able to portray God, Satan, multiple named angels, and the Seven Deadly Sins in any way they want but the instant Vivz draws some anthro as Beelzebub, it's suddenly off-limits? I'm sure I can find a dozen books, anime, small video games, or indie comics that have really abstract and weird interpretations of Beelzebub.
It's that her art is so bad she's ripping off her earlier OC, which itself was stolen from other artists on DeviantART.
Basically she's not just a hack, she can't even rip off more talented people any more.
Even if Hazbin comes out and is an abomination, or is just OK at best, expect Vivzie fans to give it 10/10 reviews regardless because they have already invested a large chunk of their lives waiting for this. And they made it part of their identities now, so they will cope even if it turns out to be terrible.
Monster Ball should have been the real song instead of Cotton Candy.
Imagine trying to draw/write for Bezelbub, but rather than going with a hot bug-girl design, you just make her a Hellhound with bee wings and bee motifs.
We get it Viv, you like animals, now stop with the anthroshit and give the viewers shit they actually want
big-titty monster girls
Reminder that 99% of negative posts about Vivzie and this character design in particular are done by a single stalker.
would
God this insufferable cow. Look at these freaks. Not counting Marc Bolan on the end there. These perverts and freaks think they are better than you. These bloated ugly women and creepy israelites.
lol look how tiny Adam's feet are. Its almost comical. Fat schulb put on his best ill fitting jeans and mismatched clothes for the night. Look at Brandon does he have AIDS? What the hell?
Living in California and being spoiled and neoliberal does that to you.
i hate them.
How do I become a Rocky Horror wannabe like the guys on the left and the right?
Also is Monica Franco one of those people? is she fatter than I remember?
brandon looks like the person conservative parents imagine when they think about gay people coming for their children
utterly disquieting visage
>Looks like
I promise you someday they will find the child porn and kids underwear in his home.
>All of the Helluva Boss are fat mystery meat chicks and creepy israeli guys
And people wonder why I simp for Lackadaisy more
*Helluva Boss crew
Quite, unlike h*lluva the lackacrew are actually attractive
meanwhile, lackachads dress like this:
Even the cosplays of this show are gonna look less cringe than hazbin hotels
>picrel: image saved from the vintage clothing server mentioned in that thread, presumably by the guy with the green tie in that thread
Lackadaisy cosplay is basically high Art Deco glamour from the 1920s as opposed to the Hellaverse cosplays which is always creepy fat literal morons in gay BDSM costumes.
rod serling looking mf
>good evening. my name is tod berling.
>this woman, Vivienne Medrano, you could say is right now having one of the happiest days of her life.
>Her show has just one a streamy award, and all her friends are there to celebrate with her. But this does not change the fact, that in a cruel twist of irony, her true dream project is and seemingly will remain in what they call production hell.
>And on the topic of hell: Some say hell is other people. If such a thing is true then Viv is most certainly one of those people so hellish that even life starts to smell of sulfur.
>The lives of viv and her colleagues, much like the show they've created, are a hall of mirrors of the typical liberal millennial neuroses that if left unconfronted, will take them down a road to a place where anything that can go wrong will go wrong, shocking nobody but themselves.
>Once again, some would call that a living hell. But here? We call it the twilight Cinemaphilene.
Lackadaisy had far better animation than that stupid pointy version of the Calarts style with its edgy gay demons. Helluva Boss just drips with estrogen and gay rectal juices.
If you went back to 1942 and showed the Allied powers what would be by 2023 they would have laid down their arms and joined Hitler. Look at these revolting fat israelites. He was right about literally everything.
Is giving the middle finger even considered edgy anymore? I feel like everyone does it, kind of like swearing
I miss Dave.
You guys remember Dave, right? He wrote originally for the Hazbin pilot, he wrote that Alastor song.
While the pilot writing wasn't stellar, amaturish even, it was helluva lot better than Helluva's writing, especially in season 2.
I wonder what happened to him. I think Viv axed him along the original VA's after show got picked up by A24.
Viv's a frickin' sell out.
I think he’s working on far fetched
He’s still busy in the indie scene, he mentioned just this week he’s working on around five projects.
Based Dave, the true indie gigachad and fat frick supreme.
Glad to hear he's still kicking after Vivzie sold out.
He's got a semblence of soul and genuine passion in his stuff, at least from what i gathered from his contributions to HH pilot. which were arguably the best parts.
They hate themselves and they love themselves.
Many such cases, hollow people the lot of 'em.
>People think that cow and her goblins are deserving of this
I mean, tbf she was up against a bunch of literal who solo animators, of course she was going to win. The nominees probably knew they were screwed the minute they were announced.
Who are any of these people that aren’t Viv, Rogers, or Neylan
I think one is Monica Franco, but she's fatter than I remember. Or I could be wrong.
I remember someone saying ashley the bunny was next to viv too. Too bad we don’t have a link
She's hot and that's the only thing Vivzieshit has going for it so I don't mind. Just tell me does she have feet or just plain insect legs?
Don't even. That's like comparing a diamond to a piece of broken glass from a crack pipe.
yeah tbh brandon would look better if he went for the scruffy guyliner alt-rock look instead of the glam draggy look. red lipstick and purple eyeshadow do not look good with his skintone
Even aside from the confused sparkledog aesthetic, I hate how toothless Viv's Hell is with supposed demons.
>demon lord of gluttony says intoxicate yourself in moderation, kids!
This shit is gay as frick. In the figurative way, not the literal way like the rest of the show.
Well its written by a delusional woman who thinks shes Kesha with arrested development and a fat israelite. What do you expect?
This is information I only found out after the show lured me in by pretending to be more interesting. I don't start paying attention to creator drama until I get sucked into the show itself.
>Beelzebub
>Lord of Flies
>The Unclean One
>Prince of Idolatry
>Master of the Domains of both Gluttony and Envy
>one third of the Unholy Trinity alongside Lucifer and Leviathan
>represented here as a low-rent sparkledog fox furry with bumblebee wings
You know, every so often one of my idiot friends will ask me why I don't like Vivziepop and like fricking clockwork one of these threads pops up and I can say: "This. This is why. This horseshit right here."
She gets KNOTTED every night by her BBDC bf
she is in an open relationship and sucks off human men to be a good host
.
>wants bee theming
>can't commit to making an actual fricking bee, just throws a few design elements onto another sparkledog
>completely ignores the fly theming often put on Beelzebub
God I hate Viv.
It’s deadass the most incomprehensible mess of a design I’ve ever seen. Also Why does she have a heart on her shirt if hearts are Asmodeus’ motif.
So is it basically confirmed now that Viv and Erica are on bad terms and that's why Loona is getting cut?
I heard it's actually because Loona isn't a sad woobie gay man and she's taking attention away from the sad woobie gay men.
That’s not it, otherwise the character would be completely absent from the show.
>loud, gaudy sense of fashion
>tanks their professional reputation by being unduly antagonistic and reflexive on twitter
>started off more apolitical but after breakout success started pandering more and more to their very specific demographic of politicsbrained teenagers
>creates drama in their professional field by victimizing themselves
>signed their career off to a production company that only appeals to one side of the political millennial divide
>piggybacks off creators and industry talent way out of their league to artificially elevate their own entry-level ideas
>has visibly deteriorated over the years from issues with diet and possibly drugs
Viv is the Jordan Peterson of animation
Japs already did 20 years ago
she looks like a fetishist fusion of cinderace and braixen
Oh nono vivbros, how do we come back from this?
A fricking cringe sparkledog furry voiced by a has been washed up prostitute singer from the early 2010s?
she looks like she's addicted to slurping shota cum
I miss Chaz....I will never forget asking Adam Neylan about him on Twitter and he was so snarky and b***hy and I dunno....just made it hard to keep watching this show knowing Viv wasn't;t the only mean fat b***h writing for the show.
>Adam Neylan
Who even is this guy? Never heard of him prior to him apparently becoming writer for Helluva out of the blue.
He was the fat unfunny guy in Brandon Rogers vids. He played the other lesbian in that running sketch about the dysfunctional lesbian couple with a piece of shit son. He was never funny. Irritatingly annoying fat israelite.
So he's a literal literally who Black person Brandon brought in because lol lmao?
Damn.
There is zero quality control is there?
Comes complete with cutesy cartoon version of himself self inserted into an episode he uses as his Twitter profile pic. Why do fat ugly people always do this? Use cartoon characters to represent themselves on social media?
someone post that saberspark/zach imagine
Why do so many American men look like this? Doughy out of shape,bad hair,giant glasses,terrible skin,skin eating fake smile.
high amounts of sugar and strogen (from onions), coomerism and lack of exercise
vivzie’s roommate/new co-writer for hb/hh
Do they...have relations?
you hate to imagine it
he got married after he joined SH don’t know who the bride is so you do the math
They actually live together??
God imagine what that place must smell like. A yeast infection between your thigh and groin mixed with prostitute perfume.