>casting that fricking weirdo gwendolyn christie instead of Tilda Swinton
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like the idea behind the casting having lucifer being a giant adrogyne but Gwendolyn Christie is not attractive enough to pull it off. Tilda would have been perfect for the adrogyne part but she's tiny.
>charles dance
guess i have to watch it
what is Sandman?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>what is Sandman?
Indeed
2 years ago
Anonymous
more like sandwoman
#RiseUpArabSisters
2 years ago
Anonymous
she barely had a role in the source, was like in only a few pages out of hundreds
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was john Constantine and he was only in three issues
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, John was in a few issues toward the beginning. There is an arc that takes place during French Reign of Terror where Johanna Constantine plays a role. But like the other anon said, it's a small role.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah, I remember that. Since they had her talking to the hobo lady in the trailer I assumed they gender swapped john. The french reign stuff is a few dozen issues in and john shows up in issue 4 as I recall.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can't remember exactly where the Reign stuff is, but I think it's in the Orpheus arc and I remember that being later in the run. If the hobo lady is the witch, Haddy, I think, from High Cost of Living, then she's old as frick so it doesn't matter when she shows up. I'm probably not going to watch this, at least in a manner that they can get metrics from me, but all the same its fun remembering some of those old story lines.
even if the casting was a carbon copy of the original characters the show would be shit because The Sandman is too hard to adapt. Make yourself a favour, ignore this and go read the comics
It means does she present as a israelite? Does she have israeli characteristics?
Imagine a cartoon dog that's clearly a stand in for a Black character. He would be Black-coded even though he'd a cartoon dog.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You could probably make an argument for all the endless being israelite-coded >entitled family that lords over and feeds off of humanity >prone to extreme neurosis >constantly subverting and back stabbing eachother >highly dysfunctional, with the youngest sister being full blown schizo
I'm very sure thats not what gayman intended and, as the voice of reason for the family, death is probably the least israelite coded.
the history of the guy that doesn't want to die or the one with shakespeare are good and simple
the cats one is easy too, there are a lot of episode to make with not too much money
and death being black... well, the real problem is that she doesn't look pretty, fragil and adorable, at least she should smile
>Death later becomes black in Supernatural >Death is black in Sandman >Angels started becoming black in droves in various series, tv shows, etc
It's all so tedious and obvious.
I thought the original design in the comics was cute, iconic and memorable. So frick this show for changing it. That alone is enough for me to never watch it no matter how good it is.
Sandman is so full of mythology and culture you're moronic to bring race into it.
That said I was surprised that they changed Death's look at all. I'd say the same if she was blonde. She was the biggest and most iconic thing from Sandman and is the only character with a Funko Pop, has spinoffs, etc.
I'm not him. It just mixes all the stuff. It's "intellectual" capeshit. They appropriate everything. The Lucifer comics had some chinese stuff, obviously Christian stuff and also Nordic stuff (Fenrir, Loki). The Christian stuff seems to be highest in the hierarchy (which would be correct) but I don't really remember. At the end of the day it's not good and takes places in the same setting Batman, Superman and all the other wank does.
That's a whole lot of white culture and myths they're pulling from
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure but Sandman has not been written by a white guy, so I wouldn't consider it a white thing, so I don't really care that much. What they did with the Green Knight made me way angrier.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What does the author have to do with it.
The original post was that myth and culture somehow have nothing to do with race.
If a Black person wrote Greek god fanfiction, and all the characters were white, it would be just as jarring and despicable to have Hollywood replace them with blacks
2 years ago
Anonymous
The point is that I wouldn't take it very serious to begin with. Someone wrote fanfiction, now they are gonna adapt said fanfiction (somewhat badly). For all I care, if some unqualified nonce appropriates a culture it ceases to be linked to that culture in anything other than a sense of pervertedness.
They changed Domino in Deadpool and replaced her with a black woman
Picrel
I have no idea why they're replacing real white with black women, kinda feels like the replacement of gingers. The whiter it is, the blacker they're gonna replace it
Right, but they could have made Dream black. They could have made Deadpool or Cable black. They could have made The Batman black, but instead they went with the female co-star. There's a very specific intent here.
They don't want to shock the fandom outright. They'll do black Dream, black Deadpool, and black Superman in the next decade or so.
That's exactly it. No one wants to watch black batman and these companies know it, that's why all the diversity goes to side characters and so on. Batgirl can be black, but not Batman, not on the really important stuff at least. And also all these series, especially the ones that have like a dozen black or brown women side characters always bank on the quirky white boy characters anyway. See, Witcher. People care way more that Jaskier that they do any of the black women in there. And the marketing knows it, which is why they keep advertising him and not them.
Quotas are moronic anyway, people didn't mind raceswaps as much one or two decades ago because it was rare and when it happened, it did so because the actor/actress did a really good job at making the character work despite not being the proper race. See Kingpin in Daredevil, or Raiden in Mortal Kombat. But nowadays it's not like that, they just get whatever mediocre and often, no name black actress to cover these throwaway roles because of the quota.
Oh boy I wish I had corse, wirey, greasy stinky Afro “hair” like a Black person lmao. I guess I have something kind of similar in my pubic region just not as nappy
>It was always going to be pozzed. I’m sure “gay man” insisted on it.
Why couldnt he just do what he did on the comics by showing different versions of the endless through the eyes of the character or setting that the story follows?
Every race or being seeing a part of themselves in the endless would be great and canon.
I'm super dissapointed.
Loved the comic way back when. I will never pay for netflix and I categorically refuse to watch this because of casting too many blacks in places they don't belong.
netflix crap automatically goes into the trash on general principle. Maybe we're seeing the twilight of forced diversity and woke shit but they make it an easy decision to disregard their content when they pull blatant propaganda like this frickery.
Oh well, rabbi. It's my fricking money you wiener mutilators aren't getting until you go full stop on pushing your degeneracy and we both know that's not happening.
At the end of the day, frickboy, I keep my money and they don't get it. I lose nothing. Who do you think suffers more? Just keep your wiener chugging comments to yourself.
>Who do you think suffers more?
The thing that suffers most is the potential kino that will never get to exist because ~~*they*~~ chose to make ~~*this*~~ instead. It really puts new context to the term "abortion"
Neil Gayman is such an overrated hack. All of his stories are designed to sound interesting when summarized or paraphrased by someone else, but he is too inept at writing to make the actual story any good.
Anything tied to his name is a red flag to avoid, so matter how much it's talked up by advertising or some homosexuals.
Eh Superman's hair sometimes doesn't have the curl, there were some issues in 2011/new52 where its just messy, That's not a good comparison. Some look is just iconic like Mjs red hair, Daniel and deaths white skin,etc.
He probably means "expensive/hard import laws"
Source: I live in a third world country and Sandman costs 3x times more than buying it on amazon so it's may as well be illegal
I'm tired of Black folk and trannies playing the roles of normal people on my movies and TV shows. I can't even watch anything with diversity hires. I'm tired... when does it stop?
Ok, so...I'm not a fan of the race swap, but they're not even trying. Where's her ankh? Where's her face tattoo? Why is she side-facing, when her most iconic images have always been full face?
>When the comic opens, the first one Dream meets is Cain as in Cain and Able >The show replaced it with a bald gender ambiguous xem >In the comic Cain wore glasses and had red hair
Netflix diversified another ginger, strike up another one for the list.
As a kid I respected neil gaiman a lot, as he was a great artist - but he's a fricking cuck. It really pisses me off when people say Black folk were into goth. There were maybe 2 or 3 in england in the 80s but when I was a kid Black folk always harassed goth and punk kids. They obviously didn't understand with their small ass brains.
>Also - this is what they took from you.
They took nothing from me. As long as Gaiman is the one behind the show, it's ok in my book. Casting is beyond the point, which you racists, bigoted people just don't get. It's about the story, not the color.
So race isn't as important as story?
So we can have white fresh Prince?
There's poor whites in Philly.
How about white black panther. There's white people on Africa.
In the story the character is white. Characters are part of the story, stop putting up smokescreens you deluded moron.
If race doesn't matter then there's nothing wrong with race swapping black stories
So race isn't as important as story?
So we can have white fresh Prince?
There's poor whites in Philly.
How about white black panther. There's white people on Africa.
In the story the character is white. Characters are part of the story, stop putting up smokescreens you deluded moron.
>So we can have white fresh Prince?
Go for it. What's stopping you? Black people are keeping you from making all these racist projects? I thought this was America. Land of the free.
People got furious sent death threats and doxxed the guy who drew white black panther
People got furious when Rami Malek an Egyptian played King Tut in the night at the museum because he wasnt black enough.
People will very much stop creators from replacing blacks with whites. You can lie all you want but it's true
But why do you care what people think? Aren't your convictions strong enough? Aren't you JUSTIFIED in your bigotry?
Maybe stop complaining and start acting. White America isn't going to save itself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why do I care what people think when they're threating to kill me, fire me or doxxx me? Wow really backed me into a corner
I am justified in my bigotry. Crime statistics prove that.
Why are you here. You obviously can't take it. You're obviously on edge.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm fine bro, i'm just trying to figure out what are you going to do besides whining. You obviously can't take being called out. Being reminded you hold no power. Giving you a reminder that people of color in media will continue happening and all you can do is b***h about it. And it amuses me. Your silly outrage amuses me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
That chinese man is moronic because there's no way a colonial power worth its salt would teach its colony workers the know-how on how to operate complex operations on a large scale.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except you know >In every non black country that was colonized
2 years ago
Anonymous
They tried, and it failed
2 years ago
Anonymous
Spanish did it in the Philippines right before they got memed into a war of independence by US, then US bought it from Spain, then the flips went apeshit and betrayed the Americans and so US went "Frick it. GG. Have fun." So now it's China's b***h. It's not always the colonist's fault. Some cultures are bred to serve.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not rebuttal to the doxxing comment? Very cool.
Yes. I'm discussing film on a film discussion board
Why are you coming to film discussion boards to complain about people complaining. What are you going to do besides whining.
Nice strawman. I have no problem with blacks in media. I have a problem with blacks replacing white characters.
Lmao I have power. I have the power to not consume. I don't know why you think anyone has to consume content.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yes. I'm discussing film on a film discussion board
No, you're complaining that your agenda is not being followed by corporations. So you will die mad. End of story.
> I have power. I have the power to not consume
Who are you kidding? You will watch it and then return here to b***h and moan. For prosperity.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, you're complaining that your agenda is not being followed by corporations. So you will die mad. End of story.
It's very hard to see you as a person, espouting braindead nonsense like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope I'm complaining about film casting on a film discussion board
What agenda you deluded shit eating Black person
Just because you can't help but consume every piece of basedboy media pumped out doesn't mean I have to.
I will not watch it. The casting is bad. You aren't welcome here. You have to go back. You will never pass. Dial 8. homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Now that's he's been found out, 10 bucks says hell respond to the (you)s one more time, say something like this isn't worth my time, and abandon the thread
2 years ago
Anonymous
People like you are sad and pathetic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm black.
Replacing white comic book characters with black people is cringe and moronic.
And I'm tired of pretending it's not
2 years ago
Anonymous
Come on buddy where'd yea go
You got all the (you)s you wanted
Now's your chance to subvert board culture
Now's your chance to make us feel unwelcome here.
That's why you came here right
You're missing your chance
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Giving you a reminder that people of color in media will continue happening and all you can do is b***h about it.
We could also just not watch it and studio executives will wonder why their series under performs. Netflix is already shedding woke dead weight as part of cost cutting, because the endless pursuit of appealing to a vocal minority has cost them their market share. Most black people won't even care about Sandman despite israeli production staff changing the race of a character to try and appeal to them.
So race isn't as important as story?
So we can have white fresh Prince?
There's poor whites in Philly.
How about white black panther. There's white people on Africa.
In the story the character is white. Characters are part of the story, stop putting up smokescreens you deluded moron.
And what you soi piece of shit don't get is that they only cast black people to push an agenda at the cost of story/character.
Riddle me this homosexual - if you were doing a Smurfs movie and Red people committed most of the crime in your country - why would you make the smurfs red? To piss people off.
Death is a pale white goth who isn't even human. She's not a nig nog.
Why don't black comic artist make their own stories and "characters"? Oh because they don't give a frick and can't.
>why dont black comic artists make their own stories
DC gave them one chance in the nineties and they made a black, conservative superman and DC ((shut it down)) after an issue of static shock that told black teens to wear condoms.
>It's about the story, not the color.
The color of these characters and of the world they inhabit is incredibly important to the work itself. They didn’t bother many ANY of the endless an inhuman pale white expect for Sandman, and even then he looks like a guy from supernatural. There’s no reason to change it, especially for a work so closely tied with its own aesthetics
Oh no, how dare they adapt 30yo comic book for the modern audience, while keeping the spirit of the original?! How could they?!!!1
Goth is no longer white-only subculture and neither is hip-hop black-only, bashing casting bcs of race is just absurd given how progressive the original comic is.
>while keeping the spirit of the original?!
The original is a pale, cute, skinny, goth woman. The new one is black, ugly, fat and doesn't have a single ounce of goth attached to her.
This isn't "keeping the spirits of the original". If they wanted a black woman, at least they could have had a cute, skinny goth black woman.
I seriously doubt they are keeping the spirit of the original. As the original wasn't a woke piece of shit rag trying to push commie ideas. Which I know this will be riddled with. It definitely wasn't like LOTRs which is specifically traditional and had a progressive vibe.. but I know. I read every issue and I met the man who wrote them.
He is re-writting history to be hip to modern homosexuals - not adapting to a modern audience.
Goth isn't a subculture because of the internet. Subcultures don't exists. Just consumer groups. It's all mall goth and e thots wearing black lipsitck. It has nothing to do with the original goth culture.
I don't even mind hispanics who got into goth organically in the 90s and 00's - at least they get the music and aesthetic.
Except its not the spirit of the original , all of these adaptations are soulless. Some coked up exec goes "Hey nerd shit is really popular , we want more money so lets pick up an semi-obscure title adapt it and it will make us a shit ton of money" "Lets raceswap characters so we A earn more good boy points from those morons on twitter and B can deflect any criticism if it turns out like shit."
>this is what they took from you.
You can think she's hot all you want, but she's literally box office poison. Everything she's in fricking bombs, so anyone who casts her is a fricking moron.
get fricked you piece of shit, spamming that c-list actor on't unrape her by the israelite producers that gave her a career. you are the most fricking annoying autist since the cara delevigne spammer
Sandman was never good. Its just a hodge podge of neat things. There's something in it for everyone, but there are no narrative throughlines of any substance.
>Death later becomes black in Supernatural >Death is black in Sandman >Angels started becoming black in droves in various series, tv shows, etc
It's all so tedious and obvious.
I thought the original design in the comics was cute, iconic and memorable. So frick this show for changing it. That alone is enough for me to never watch it no matter how good it is.
I like how they brag about Sandman always being woke. The comic starts with Dream condemning a black woman to Hell because he was a jilted lover, and then later goes on to mock feminists at a serial killer convention
Yes. It's vile stuff and they love it (look at The Boys). ALso, the lesbian is clearly a victim there and someone else(probably white) is the perpetrator/instigator.
It's a dark fantasy/horror series about the God of Dreams and his family Desire/Destiny/Death/Dementia. They're serialized stories that weave into each other but a big part early on is Dream getting his kingdom back after it fell to ruin in his absence while he was imprisoned.
Its a series of short stories with a plot about cosmic deity family drama used as a framing device that occassionally takes center stage to maintain a flimsy illusion that there is a central plot thats going somewhere. Its incredibly hacky but presents lots of pseud bullshit and esoteric themes in a comic book and is therefore overrated and deemed breakthrough.
What about the drag queen that gets told he cant take the magic portal to dreamworld, because he will never be a woman and only witches are allowed? Or when that same character has a nightmare that he's getting gender reassignment surgery on bizarro world? But none of that shit matters, because gayman is one of those twitter addicted gen x Black folk that retroactively diminishes his own material by spending all day convincing psycho far leftists on the internet that he was way ahead of his time with progressive bullshit. He is a gay cuck and his son is moronic.
>English actress Gwendoline Christie (Brienne of Tarth in GoT) is set to portray a more comic accurate version in the upcoming television series The Sandman.
I can see if they got Tilda Swinton to play Lucifer. She has a weird, androgynous look about her that makes sense for Sandman angels. Christie is all wrong.
Wait, so Lucifer crosses over with Arrow even tho they are on different channels but won't cross over with Sandman? Somebody tell Gaiman and Netflix to take the stick out of their asses and write a dream sequence where the TV version of Lucifer meets this TV version of Sandman on the show.
The TV version of Lucifer has nothing in common with the source material. Keep that sad joke of a detective show out of this, Sandman seems to be enough of a trainwreck already.
>trailer seems like the story's gonna be extremely faithful to the source material >Cinemaphile calls it shit because a character who's barely in it is black
lol
Lucifer a woman
Constantine a woman and I know Johanna exist but it's not this Constantine that we are introduced to when dream search for his sand
Lucian a woman.
If this were just a cold teaser, and there was no mention of it being Sandman. And all you knew was the comics, would anyone really think it was Sandman?
thankfully I don't even know what it is
pepe's shaking hands thtough pants.jpeg
this
Seems like a Cinemaphilegay problem
idc the show looks great
Shut the frick up
Hey man, it's you who's missing on this kino. Your loss.
>isn't pale
>doesn't have messy 80's pomf hair
into the trash it goes
I repeat. Your loss.
>casting that fricking weirdo gwendolyn christie instead of Tilda Swinton
I like the idea behind the casting having lucifer being a giant adrogyne but Gwendolyn Christie is not attractive enough to pull it off. Tilda would have been perfect for the adrogyne part but she's tiny.
>charles dance
guess i have to watch it
what is Sandman?
>what is Sandman?
Indeed
more like sandwoman
#RiseUpArabSisters
she barely had a role in the source, was like in only a few pages out of hundreds
It was john Constantine and he was only in three issues
Yes, John was in a few issues toward the beginning. There is an arc that takes place during French Reign of Terror where Johanna Constantine plays a role. But like the other anon said, it's a small role.
Oh yeah, I remember that. Since they had her talking to the hobo lady in the trailer I assumed they gender swapped john. The french reign stuff is a few dozen issues in and john shows up in issue 4 as I recall.
I can't remember exactly where the Reign stuff is, but I think it's in the Orpheus arc and I remember that being later in the run. If the hobo lady is the witch, Haddy, I think, from High Cost of Living, then she's old as frick so it doesn't matter when she shows up. I'm probably not going to watch this, at least in a manner that they can get metrics from me, but all the same its fun remembering some of those old story lines.
>I repeat. Your loss.
No person who isn't working on the show in some way talks like this.
>cain and abel
they arent even trying
>lucifer
>a troony
not even surprised.
>lucifer
>a troony
that is a good idea for lucifer
>I repeat. Your loss.
From the looks of it, I highly doubt it.
You are a shill of the highest order, Charles dance is only saving grace and he is not here to stay,and Gwendolyn as Lucifer is just ridiculous.
I got 10 seconds in. It has those moronic drums all modern trailers do. Enjoy your death note 2.0 garbage
>idc
We know.
>They also turned my boy Lucien into a sheboon
Gaiman is a fricking cuck
>bald niggress
make it stop
Kekin
this looks fricking awful
1:00 its that fricking homosexual that ruined Gren in Cowboy Bebop right?
even if the casting was a carbon copy of the original characters the show would be shit because The Sandman is too hard to adapt. Make yourself a favour, ignore this and go read the comics
So why make it even worse with anti White casting?
It was never white. The writer is israeli.
Is death israelite-coded in the comics?
I have no clue what that means but the comic has a subversive nature already. The show is just expanding on that.
It means does she present as a israelite? Does she have israeli characteristics?
Imagine a cartoon dog that's clearly a stand in for a Black character. He would be Black-coded even though he'd a cartoon dog.
You could probably make an argument for all the endless being israelite-coded
>entitled family that lords over and feeds off of humanity
>prone to extreme neurosis
>constantly subverting and back stabbing eachother
>highly dysfunctional, with the youngest sister being full blown schizo
I'm very sure thats not what gayman intended and, as the voice of reason for the family, death is probably the least israelite coded.
the history of the guy that doesn't want to die or the one with shakespeare are good and simple
the cats one is easy too, there are a lot of episode to make with not too much money
and death being black... well, the real problem is that she doesn't look pretty, fragil and adorable, at least she should smile
Could have done afro goth but they were even too lazy for that.
Even that looks better.
Everythings looks better than stronk, angry black girl.
No shot but that's where we are at.
>afro goth
Oxymoronic
If I were to do Sandman I think I'd probably get some indie animators/puppeteers to do the odd dream sequence stuff
The whole thing should look way more practical (miniatures, puppets, smoke) for being from the 90s alone.
Black death lmao
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
nice i guess. reminds me of the death in supernatural
>death in supernatural
>Death later becomes black in Supernatural
>your time is up
where have i heard this before
This, they were quite cheeky with this poster. Gotta respect the disrespect
Makes sense when you look at crime statistics
This
Kek
FLOUR IS EXPENSIVE???????
They blackwashed Lucien too. What a shit show.
Sandman is so full of mythology and culture you're moronic to bring race into it.
That said I was surprised that they changed Death's look at all. I'd say the same if she was blonde. She was the biggest and most iconic thing from Sandman and is the only character with a Funko Pop, has spinoffs, etc.
Mythology of what race?
Whos culture?
It's a big mischmasch of everything. Very new-agey.
Answer the question
Culture is tied to specific races
Mythology more so
You said it isn't about race. They're directly linked homosexual
I'm not him. It just mixes all the stuff. It's "intellectual" capeshit. They appropriate everything. The Lucifer comics had some chinese stuff, obviously Christian stuff and also Nordic stuff (Fenrir, Loki). The Christian stuff seems to be highest in the hierarchy (which would be correct) but I don't really remember. At the end of the day it's not good and takes places in the same setting Batman, Superman and all the other wank does.
That's a whole lot of white culture and myths they're pulling from
Sure but Sandman has not been written by a white guy, so I wouldn't consider it a white thing, so I don't really care that much. What they did with the Green Knight made me way angrier.
What does the author have to do with it.
The original post was that myth and culture somehow have nothing to do with race.
If a Black person wrote Greek god fanfiction, and all the characters were white, it would be just as jarring and despicable to have Hollywood replace them with blacks
The point is that I wouldn't take it very serious to begin with. Someone wrote fanfiction, now they are gonna adapt said fanfiction (somewhat badly). For all I care, if some unqualified nonce appropriates a culture it ceases to be linked to that culture in anything other than a sense of pervertedness.
>Mythology of what race?
Sandman is from slavic mythos.
Death is obviously Egyptian.
Then why isn't she Egyptian?
She's a Black person not Egyptian
They changed Domino in Deadpool and replaced her with a black woman
Picrel
I have no idea why they're replacing real white with black women, kinda feels like the replacement of gingers. The whiter it is, the blacker they're gonna replace it
>I have no idea why
These productions need to meet a race quota set by their investors, most likely.
Right, but they could have made Dream black. They could have made Deadpool or Cable black. They could have made The Batman black, but instead they went with the female co-star. There's a very specific intent here.
They don't want to shock the fandom outright. They'll do black Dream, black Deadpool, and black Superman in the next decade or so.
That's exactly it. No one wants to watch black batman and these companies know it, that's why all the diversity goes to side characters and so on. Batgirl can be black, but not Batman, not on the really important stuff at least. And also all these series, especially the ones that have like a dozen black or brown women side characters always bank on the quirky white boy characters anyway. See, Witcher. People care way more that Jaskier that they do any of the black women in there. And the marketing knows it, which is why they keep advertising him and not them.
Quotas are moronic anyway, people didn't mind raceswaps as much one or two decades ago because it was rare and when it happened, it did so because the actor/actress did a really good job at making the character work despite not being the proper race. See Kingpin in Daredevil, or Raiden in Mortal Kombat. But nowadays it's not like that, they just get whatever mediocre and often, no name black actress to cover these throwaway roles because of the quota.
Minor nignog roles are easier to edit out for their foreign market as well.
black hair so fricking ugly
better than your ugly nasty dog hair
no creature on the planet has hair like blacks, animals have the same hair as whites.
Black women are literally disgusting, all men from all races have agreed on this already
riiiight thats why you crakers make threads about them all day everyday.
I mean the only threads I see are either disdain or cartoons of over exaggerated traditionally ugly black women traits all of them possess
>Every black women possess all the exact same traits
Schizo
Oh boy I wish I had corse, wirey, greasy stinky Afro “hair” like a Black person lmao. I guess I have something kind of similar in my pubic region just not as nappy
DEY DIE NAO?
Death of the future indeed
>netflix
>gaiman
It was always going to be pozzed. I’m sure “gay man” insisted on it.
>It was always going to be pozzed. I’m sure “gay man” insisted on it.
Why couldnt he just do what he did on the comics by showing different versions of the endless through the eyes of the character or setting that the story follows?
Every race or being seeing a part of themselves in the endless would be great and canon.
I'm super dissapointed.
Won't last more than one season.
Loved the comic way back when. I will never pay for netflix and I categorically refuse to watch this because of casting too many blacks in places they don't belong.
netflix crap automatically goes into the trash on general principle. Maybe we're seeing the twilight of forced diversity and woke shit but they make it an easy decision to disregard their content when they pull blatant propaganda like this frickery.
>more woke shit
Oh well, rabbi. It's my fricking money you wiener mutilators aren't getting until you go full stop on pushing your degeneracy and we both know that's not happening.
>it's the israelites again!
Yes
Wow, you really told off that rabbi. He will think twice before portraying you as a petulant child.
At the end of the day, frickboy, I keep my money and they don't get it. I lose nothing. Who do you think suffers more? Just keep your wiener chugging comments to yourself.
NOBODY NEEDS YOUR MONEY CRACKER
But anon, how else would you be able to afford your genital removal procedure?
They're the ones heading 100mph into bankruptcy, not my problem
>Who do you think suffers more?
The thing that suffers most is the potential kino that will never get to exist because ~~*they*~~ chose to make ~~*this*~~ instead. It really puts new context to the term "abortion"
Is this capeshit?
brain says its capeshit
worse - it's pretentious capeshit
Yes but for midwits. There are some qualities there but i at the end of the day it's subversive trash.
Sandman is famous for being wordy. Wonder if they'll trim down the dialogue or try to be faithful to it.
Neil Gayman is such an overrated hack. All of his stories are designed to sound interesting when summarized or paraphrased by someone else, but he is too inept at writing to make the actual story any good.
Anything tied to his name is a red flag to avoid, so matter how much it's talked up by advertising or some homosexuals.
It's the same with Warhammer.
They couldn't even give him the bed hair afro.
it's not the 80s anymore. did you complain too when they didn't give Superman a hair curl?
Eh Superman's hair sometimes doesn't have the curl, there were some issues in 2011/new52 where its just messy, That's not a good comparison. Some look is just iconic like Mjs red hair, Daniel and deaths white skin,etc.
Where do I go if I want to read this comic but can't legally get it in my country?
>but can't legally get it in my country?
What kind of fascist, nightmare country do you live in that you can't read fricking Sandman?
He probably means "expensive/hard import laws"
Source: I live in a third world country and Sandman costs 3x times more than buying it on amazon so it's may as well be illegal
Readcomiconline will most likely have it to view on the site. Just make sure you have a pop-up blocker installed
Thanks.
>Black
Disrespectful
>Sad and moody
Inexcusable
I’d rather sandman be black than death
I'm tired of Black folk and trannies playing the roles of normal people on my movies and TV shows. I can't even watch anything with diversity hires. I'm tired... when does it stop?
>whites
>normal
lolololololololololololololololololololololololololol
t. spiteful mutants
Dilate.
Ok, so...I'm not a fan of the race swap, but they're not even trying. Where's her ankh? Where's her face tattoo? Why is she side-facing, when her most iconic images have always been full face?
Stop appropriating culture.
If they had a shred of understanding of her character they'll ask the actress to smile at least.
Asking a woman to smile? Dafuqs wrong with you!?
They change cute Death for the Black Death.
P O T T E R Y
I've seen this actress in The Good Place. Her demeanor doesn't fit the character at all, not even in this promo picture.
>When the comic opens, the first one Dream meets is Cain as in Cain and Able
>The show replaced it with a bald gender ambiguous xem
>In the comic Cain wore glasses and had red hair
Netflix diversified another ginger, strike up another one for the list.
As a kid I respected neil gaiman a lot, as he was a great artist - but he's a fricking cuck. It really pisses me off when people say Black folk were into goth. There were maybe 2 or 3 in england in the 80s but when I was a kid Black folk always harassed goth and punk kids. They obviously didn't understand with their small ass brains.
Also - this is what they took from you.
>Also - this is what they took from you.
They took nothing from me. As long as Gaiman is the one behind the show, it's ok in my book. Casting is beyond the point, which you racists, bigoted people just don't get. It's about the story, not the color.
>color
That's not all race is, you simpleton.
Just deal with PoC being in media. This is for the long run, no matter how much you complain on a chinese knitting forum.
Just deal with people not dealing with it
This is for the long run, no matter how much you complain on a chinese knitting forum
So why don't you take that tactical nihilism to heart and learn to deal with people complaining?
That's literally what all race is in fiction. They're actors, they pretend. It's not reality. You're autistic as frick
See
If race doesn't matter then there's nothing wrong with race swapping black stories
Hey, I just finished my documentary on the Life of Malcolm X starring Ryan Gosling. You'll support this right?
Sure.
>So we can have white fresh Prince?
Go for it. What's stopping you? Black people are keeping you from making all these racist projects? I thought this was America. Land of the free.
Shoot for the stars bro.
People got furious sent death threats and doxxed the guy who drew white black panther
People got furious when Rami Malek an Egyptian played King Tut in the night at the museum because he wasnt black enough.
People will very much stop creators from replacing blacks with whites. You can lie all you want but it's true
But why do you care what people think? Aren't your convictions strong enough? Aren't you JUSTIFIED in your bigotry?
Maybe stop complaining and start acting. White America isn't going to save itself.
Why do I care what people think when they're threating to kill me, fire me or doxxx me? Wow really backed me into a corner
I am justified in my bigotry. Crime statistics prove that.
Why are you here. You obviously can't take it. You're obviously on edge.
I'm fine bro, i'm just trying to figure out what are you going to do besides whining. You obviously can't take being called out. Being reminded you hold no power. Giving you a reminder that people of color in media will continue happening and all you can do is b***h about it. And it amuses me. Your silly outrage amuses me.
That chinese man is moronic because there's no way a colonial power worth its salt would teach its colony workers the know-how on how to operate complex operations on a large scale.
Except you know
>In every non black country that was colonized
They tried, and it failed
Spanish did it in the Philippines right before they got memed into a war of independence by US, then US bought it from Spain, then the flips went apeshit and betrayed the Americans and so US went "Frick it. GG. Have fun." So now it's China's b***h. It's not always the colonist's fault. Some cultures are bred to serve.
Not rebuttal to the doxxing comment? Very cool.
Yes. I'm discussing film on a film discussion board
Why are you coming to film discussion boards to complain about people complaining. What are you going to do besides whining.
Nice strawman. I have no problem with blacks in media. I have a problem with blacks replacing white characters.
Lmao I have power. I have the power to not consume. I don't know why you think anyone has to consume content.
>Yes. I'm discussing film on a film discussion board
No, you're complaining that your agenda is not being followed by corporations. So you will die mad. End of story.
> I have power. I have the power to not consume
Who are you kidding? You will watch it and then return here to b***h and moan. For prosperity.
>No, you're complaining that your agenda is not being followed by corporations. So you will die mad. End of story.
It's very hard to see you as a person, espouting braindead nonsense like that.
Nope I'm complaining about film casting on a film discussion board
What agenda you deluded shit eating Black person
Just because you can't help but consume every piece of basedboy media pumped out doesn't mean I have to.
I will not watch it. The casting is bad. You aren't welcome here. You have to go back. You will never pass. Dial 8. homosexual
Now that's he's been found out, 10 bucks says hell respond to the (you)s one more time, say something like this isn't worth my time, and abandon the thread
People like you are sad and pathetic.
I'm black.
Replacing white comic book characters with black people is cringe and moronic.
And I'm tired of pretending it's not
Come on buddy where'd yea go
You got all the (you)s you wanted
Now's your chance to subvert board culture
Now's your chance to make us feel unwelcome here.
That's why you came here right
You're missing your chance
>Giving you a reminder that people of color in media will continue happening and all you can do is b***h about it.
We could also just not watch it and studio executives will wonder why their series under performs. Netflix is already shedding woke dead weight as part of cost cutting, because the endless pursuit of appealing to a vocal minority has cost them their market share. Most black people won't even care about Sandman despite israeli production staff changing the race of a character to try and appeal to them.
So race isn't as important as story?
So we can have white fresh Prince?
There's poor whites in Philly.
How about white black panther. There's white people on Africa.
In the story the character is white. Characters are part of the story, stop putting up smokescreens you deluded moron.
>So we can have white fresh Prince?
lol here we go
I want huck finn but Black person jim is asian named Yellow Kim who solved problems with math instead of Black person mumbles and his big strong hands
And what you soi piece of shit don't get is that they only cast black people to push an agenda at the cost of story/character.
Riddle me this homosexual - if you were doing a Smurfs movie and Red people committed most of the crime in your country - why would you make the smurfs red? To piss people off.
Death is a pale white goth who isn't even human. She's not a nig nog.
Why don't black comic artist make their own stories and "characters"? Oh because they don't give a frick and can't.
Frick you.
>why dont black comic artists make their own stories
DC gave them one chance in the nineties and they made a black, conservative superman and DC ((shut it down)) after an issue of static shock that told black teens to wear condoms.
>It's about the story, not the color.
The color of these characters and of the world they inhabit is incredibly important to the work itself. They didn’t bother many ANY of the endless an inhuman pale white expect for Sandman, and even then he looks like a guy from supernatural. There’s no reason to change it, especially for a work so closely tied with its own aesthetics
>The color of these characters and of the world they inhabit is incredibly important to the work itself. T
Wrong
Holy frick is that death
So not only did they change her race they removed all style an aesthetic from her
Fantastic
I think it's Rose
Oh no, how dare they adapt 30yo comic book for the modern audience, while keeping the spirit of the original?! How could they?!!!1
Goth is no longer white-only subculture and neither is hip-hop black-only, bashing casting bcs of race is just absurd given how progressive the original comic is.
Death isn't Goth whatsoever in this though.
>while keeping the spirit of the original?!
The original is a pale, cute, skinny, goth woman. The new one is black, ugly, fat and doesn't have a single ounce of goth attached to her.
This isn't "keeping the spirits of the original". If they wanted a black woman, at least they could have had a cute, skinny goth black woman.
I seriously doubt they are keeping the spirit of the original. As the original wasn't a woke piece of shit rag trying to push commie ideas. Which I know this will be riddled with. It definitely wasn't like LOTRs which is specifically traditional and had a progressive vibe.. but I know. I read every issue and I met the man who wrote them.
He is re-writting history to be hip to modern homosexuals - not adapting to a modern audience.
Goth isn't a subculture because of the internet. Subcultures don't exists. Just consumer groups. It's all mall goth and e thots wearing black lipsitck. It has nothing to do with the original goth culture.
I don't even mind hispanics who got into goth organically in the 90s and 00's - at least they get the music and aesthetic.
>while keeping the spirit of the original
you are fricking delusional
Except its not the spirit of the original , all of these adaptations are soulless. Some coked up exec goes "Hey nerd shit is really popular , we want more money so lets pick up an semi-obscure title adapt it and it will make us a shit ton of money" "Lets raceswap characters so we A earn more good boy points from those morons on twitter and B can deflect any criticism if it turns out like shit."
>modern audience
What does this mean?
Fat black women that don’t need (can’t get) no man and virtue signaling zoomers.
neil gaymen is a israelite. ofc he will do something like this.
>this is what they took from you.
You can think she's hot all you want, but she's literally box office poison. Everything she's in fricking bombs, so anyone who casts her is a fricking moron.
get fricked you piece of shit, spamming that c-list actor on't unrape her by the israelite producers that gave her a career. you are the most fricking annoying autist since the cara delevigne spammer
She looks like she gives amazing cuddles, just sayin.
I bet you they made her black because of black people's obsession with ancient Egypt and the whole WE WUZ shit.
Sandman was never good. Its just a hodge podge of neat things. There's something in it for everyone, but there are no narrative throughlines of any substance.
*ahem*
I HAVE AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE. PLEASE GATHER AND REMAIN SEATED.
Here I am, but I think I know where this is going.
Thank you for waiting...
*ahem*
FRICK TRANNIES
FRICK israeliteS
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
FRICK Black folk
Thank you for your time and have a nice day.
based.
Great message sir.
Good.
World needs more people like you, brother
Is he right, bros?
based
BASED
I'm waiting.
Pepe finally addresses the bigotry on Cinemaphile? Let me screencap this for CNN.
questionable casting aside, shit looks cash
frick you homosexuals
shit looks boss yo. gonna be chillin af watching this being chill, fricking SANDMAN YO GET HYPED.
ayo fr fr no cap
dis shit be bussin bussin
>Death later becomes black in Supernatural
>Death is black in Sandman
>Angels started becoming black in droves in various series, tv shows, etc
It's all so tedious and obvious.
I thought the original design in the comics was cute, iconic and memorable. So frick this show for changing it. That alone is enough for me to never watch it no matter how good it is.
I like how they brag about Sandman always being woke. The comic starts with Dream condemning a black woman to Hell because he was a jilted lover, and then later goes on to mock feminists at a serial killer convention
It has always been relatively woke. The core is rotten.
So a scene where a lesbian is mind controlled and gang raped at a diner is pretty woke.
Yes. It's vile stuff and they love it (look at The Boys). ALso, the lesbian is clearly a victim there and someone else(probably white) is the perpetrator/instigator.
based. You know they wont touch that shit with a 10 foot poll.
But technically I think she was egyptian.. but maybe african.
what the frick is this comic even about?
It's a dark fantasy/horror series about the God of Dreams and his family Desire/Destiny/Death/Dementia. They're serialized stories that weave into each other but a big part early on is Dream getting his kingdom back after it fell to ruin in his absence while he was imprisoned.
Bags of sand.
Its a series of short stories with a plot about cosmic deity family drama used as a framing device that occassionally takes center stage to maintain a flimsy illusion that there is a central plot thats going somewhere. Its incredibly hacky but presents lots of pseud bullshit and esoteric themes in a comic book and is therefore overrated and deemed breakthrough.
What about the drag queen that gets told he cant take the magic portal to dreamworld, because he will never be a woman and only witches are allowed? Or when that same character has a nightmare that he's getting gender reassignment surgery on bizarro world? But none of that shit matters, because gayman is one of those twitter addicted gen x Black folk that retroactively diminishes his own material by spending all day convincing psycho far leftists on the internet that he was way ahead of his time with progressive bullshit. He is a gay cuck and his son is moronic.
Does the comic feature any gay sex scene?
>netflix
>it's shit
wooooow
netflix never seems to learn huh
another one on the pile of shit i will never watch
>Sandman show
>no Ezra Miller
Dropped
>Black folk responsible for a majority of murders
>Make the literal embodiment of Death black
Based Neil
Death has an iconic look that everyone familiar with the comic knows, this is a pretty obvious stunt cast.
Pack in all the DEY HEAH you want. I'm still not watching it (the pozzed television).
theg should just change actors every couple episodes like the original comic changes the art style/artist.
i do want justice for pale goth girls tho wtf.shoulda made desire or despair black instead
desire is trans lol
androgynous in the comics, so thats ok?coulda made her black too and save small tiddy goth gf
Trans what moron? She changes depending on who sees her.
Yaaassssss
This could have been the year of the 80s goth style coming bac, between this and stranger things, but Hollywood fears the goth revival
WE WUZ ENDLESS AN SHEET homie
They making shows based on Metallica songs now? What's next
Fricking horseshit.
>character appearance directly taken from from a specific woman
>I know, lets have an ugly Black person play her
Stardust was boring and American Gods was utter trash. His work doesn’t translate to screens so why would I ever watch this?
justice for goths and redheads in jollywood
sandman wasn’t ever that good and i’m tired of pretending it is
>How Ironic that Neil Gaimans "The Sandman" always puts me to sleep
Payback for making fun of Wizard Magazine movie casts.
No thanks.
#notmyDeath
I can't describe how much I hate Black folk Cinemaphilebros
She herself looks good for a black girl, the long hair helps, but it just isn't right for Death.
Say "No" to tomboy genocide.
Say "No" to ginger genocide.
Say "No" to goth girl genocide.
Promethea > Lucifer >Sandman
Based and true. Gayman will always live in moores shadow
>character has pure white skin
>turn it into a Black person
They just can't help it.
10 years ago I didn't even think about Black actors or actresses
They were just regular people.
Now I cannot fricking stand blacks. Frick this
Frick. I was hyped for QT death. Why could not they have kept this death limited to supernatural.
>English actress Gwendoline Christie (Brienne of Tarth in GoT) is set to portray a more comic accurate version in the upcoming television series The Sandman.
bruh
*Lucifer
Netflix does it again.
I can see if they got Tilda Swinton to play Lucifer. She has a weird, androgynous look about her that makes sense for Sandman angels. Christie is all wrong.
Wait, so Lucifer crosses over with Arrow even tho they are on different channels but won't cross over with Sandman? Somebody tell Gaiman and Netflix to take the stick out of their asses and write a dream sequence where the TV version of Lucifer meets this TV version of Sandman on the show.
The TV version of Lucifer has nothing in common with the source material. Keep that sad joke of a detective show out of this, Sandman seems to be enough of a trainwreck already.
>trailer seems like the story's gonna be extremely faithful to the source material
>Cinemaphile calls it shit because a character who's barely in it is black
lol
>a character who's barely in it is black
>Death
>barely in Sandman
She's only in the volume they're adapting for like 1 issue and that's at the end. Lmao if you think Netflix will make more seasons of Sandman.
> N I G G E R
Lucifer a woman
Constantine a woman and I know Johanna exist but it's not this Constantine that we are introduced to when dream search for his sand
Lucian a woman.
Frick you shill.
>death is a black woman
sounds about right.
The first Black Death was in the mid 1300s. This one may prove to be marginally more popular.
looking forward to it
all the complainers in this thread can go climb up their own buttholes
disgusting, every gaiman based tv series is trash, this will be too
The frick is that?
The four minor arcana of Tarot.
but why?
Is this honorary tarot card month or something? How many different celebratory things do we need throughout the year?
apparently is. as a hermetic occultist I am absolutely disgusted with how mainstream 'witchy' shit has become
Women ruined occultism. It basically just became an extension of over inflated egos.
like all others they are meant to play specific roles. this recent troony phenomena is a Despicable inversion of the Holy androgyne
Right click, block element.
If this were just a cold teaser, and there was no mention of it being Sandman. And all you knew was the comics, would anyone really think it was Sandman?
MY DEATH IS WHITE
why not an actually pretty actually goth black girl?