Last week meetings were had at Marvel Studios about what the potential future of the X-Men franchise could be under their banner. Two things were decided upon so far
>The main villain: Mr. Sinister.
>The roster of X-men.
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not bad actually
Why do they bother to waste time with Colossus?
None of the casuals care about the character, and even among the hardcore fans he's a lesser liked character.
Put Rogue and Gambit on the team from the very beginning.
Skip the boring origin stuff.
I read somewhere there is an idea to incorporate Gambit into the movie. But as a Marauder under the service of Mr Sinister.
That was in the comics so they could go that route if they want.
Deadpool movies gave him a boost in awareness in the normie sphere. That being said, I am still surprised they are making him so prominent given all the anti-russian sentiment in the media. Maybe Reynolds convinced some producer since he seems to genuinely like the character. Then again, they could just retcon him as any other slavic national.
>I am still surprised they are making him so prominent given all the anti-russian sentiment in the media
Considering most of the Thunderbolts are Ruskies, I'm wondering who decided to do the cold war thing after we've lost our major American cold war characters
You don't think there was anti-russian sentiment in the media when Wein and wienerrum created him? For a franchise that's all about the evils of racism and moving beyond our fears and biases, I'd think Colossus is more relevant than ever.
Why the frick do they insist on using variants of Cyclops' 90s costume for everything?
The head-condom is better than the stupid headgear they put on him, Jean, and Gambit.
>The head-condom is better than the stupid headgear they put on him, Jean, and Gambit.
No-taste detected, homosexual. Exposed hair is always better than the fricking cueball masks. You're probably a bald frick.
Token team strong guy.
We call that the Worf Effect
>None of the casuals care about the character
None of the casuals care about anyone but Wolverine.
>Why do they bother to waste time with Colossus?
>None of the casuals care about the character, and even among the hardcore fans he's a lesser liked character.
Literally one of the most famous X-Men in the current era because of the Deadpool movies. Don't care my fricking ass.
He might be the first guy they kill off.
Besides, we need him to eventually get to his sister.
>He might be the first guy they kill off
He's the best character in the arcade game
Colossus is here because
>Token strong guy
>Has been in several movies before
>Has been in comics for decades so is considered a core X-Men character
>Is toyetic
>Is toyetic
slowly but surely they are learning this is key
What do you mean? The MCU has always been toyetic.
it kinda stopped being around phase 4 when the toys shelfwarmed.
I would replace Colossus with Armor personally. Her powers would look cool with big budget CGI.
>Armor
Nobody cares about your obscure anime waifu.
he's visually interesting (big metal dude)
He's very toy-friendly and easy to fit in a story as "big honorable buff dude who go smash" and arguably got a visually cool power
>Why do they bother to waste time with Colossus?
Because somebody needs to throw Wolverine.
Professional Jobber, if the enemy can beat a man literally made of steel then they've got to be tough!
Because he's awesome.
>None of the casuals care about the character, and even among the hardcore fans he's a lesser liked character.
Frick casuals and frick you.
>Gambit
Double frick you cartoon gay.
I like him, but being on a team with Cyke makes him kind of redundant, personality-wise.
Because a team needs a big strong durable guy for the knock down drag outs and for Rogue to be that you need to shelve Cap Marvel or explain how she has permanent brick powers
I do care about him you fricking pleb
Moviecasual please go back to Cinemaphile
He's hot. As a top AND bottom.
Comics fans won't like to hear it, but this guy is right. Drop Colossus and Nightcrawler and replace them with Rogue and Gambit. Even without the 90s cartoon audience, their story is an easy sell to normies.
>No one cares about Colossus!
>Put Gambit on the team
pfft haha
samegay
>Mutants always existed just never known about
>Professor X being an butthole
>All New All Different Roster
It's weird to get promising information about the MCU X-Men, I can't really believe it.
>Mutants always existed just never known about
They were present in the Avengers movies, just hiding in another room offscreen
Jean looks too cartoony? Even more photoshopped than colossus, qnd it's not juwt flying either. Like the shading is off
>autist thinks this is a final render and not an internal note while they plan shit
Apparently this was from a pitch. And the Photoshop was done from a writer.
Who the frick is Mr. Sinister and why should I care? Fox-verse also attempted to make him their Thanos figure .
He's basically evil Charles darwin. And if anything he's more like the Loki figure and apocalypse is the Thanos figure but Fox was stupid and did it the opposite way.
So he's basically an eugenecist?
He is literally responsible for the bloodline of Jean Gray and Scott summers. He selectively breeded humans to create the ultimate mutants, and he hopes to create one with their offspring. From what I hear the movie tackles the concept of scientific racism.
Can't wait for liberal Hollywood to lecture me on what real science is.
Complain complain complain that's all I hear
Don't make the synopsis sound like ass then.
Yeah can't believe liberal Hollywood would dare criticize my beloved skull calipers
>race science is muh phrenology
>forget how the dude who basically invented genetic was canceled for insisting that intelligence is like any other trait and is dictated by genes to some degree
>to some degree
No, he argued it was to a great degree and his arguments had no real backing. Sucks that he had that opinion, but his own achievements didn't make him right.
>his arguments had no real backing
Lmao his arguments were elementary. Dogs work that way. So do people. Therefore some human "breeds" are less intelligent.
>World class elite scientist and father of a earthshaking area of science tells you how his new area of science works
>ACTUALLY THOSE ARGUMENTS HAD NO BACKING AND UNLIKE BEING DEPRESSIVE OR GOOD AT MUSIC OR A TALENTED ATHLETE, INTELLIGENCE IS NOT INFLUENCED BY OR AT ALL DETERMINED GENETICALLY
You're a weakling who's afraid of what the truth would mean or do to society.
LOL HER HAIR AND ARM POSITION MAKES HER SHIRT LOOK LIKE A SWASTIKA
>Scientific racism
Not a thing
Why not just go the Ultimate route of having mutants be the result of secret government experiments, but make Sinister responsible for all of it?
Because you lose the natural evolution angle
The X-men have always been an unnatural byproduct of evolution, so I don't think that works
In 616, Celestials experimented on humans and that created mutants. In Ultimate, the government experimented on humans and that created mutants. Mutants aren’t natural in any continuity.
Celestial didn't do that
Because it is dumb and lead to the worst Marvel event ever.
Originally mutants were children of the atom, the implication being that radiation had done it. Obviously this was changed and in general it was x-gene/genetics. The Celestials thing came later. Celestials put a gene in humanity which wasn't named in the comic and it was only later that someone decided to make this the x gene. The celestials did it thing is dumb too.
>Originally mutants were children of the atom, the implication being that radiation had done it.
This was always my favorite. All the radio waves, tv waves, nuclear bullshit and everything else we've been putting in the air was just messing with people on a genetic level as society evolved. Hell keep this going and you could have the children of the wi-fi.
I think the best route for the MCU would be a mix of both. Wolverine is a real mutant. He's been around for like a century and there's a couple of others like him, allowing for flashback stories, but there's so few of them that even they don't know about each other. But after the success of Captain America and the inability to replicate that success the military tried other venues to create supersoldiers and one of the ways they tried that was by capturing Wolverine and using gene-splicing to try and create supersoldiers that could survive shrapnel and light bullet wounds. The Weapon X project was far more immoral than the earlier attempts though, so they tried it on unsuspecting test subjects instead of volunteers. Inoculating whole towns in an attempt to see if genetic makeup or upbringing made any difference to the results. People died from super-cancer(attributed to industrial waste) or was seemingly unaffected. But then, in the modern day, the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those test-subjects start exhibiting superpowers, perhaps triggered by the blip if you want a definite start-point. All the mutants except the rare natural ones like Wolverine are kids and that's why there were no X-Men to try and save NYC from an alien invasion. That's way better than having X-Men hiding in their mansion while the world is at stake, or Xavier making everyone forget they existed with a little mindrape.
Sinister would fit perfectly as the guy running those Weapon X experiments. When he was shut down in the US/Canada he just kept moving around and trying different things for whatever government would let him get away with it, creating small populations all over.
>I think the best route for the MCU would be a mix of both. Wolverine is a real mutant. He's been around for like a century and there's a couple of others like him, allowing for flashback stories, but there's so few of them that even they don't know about each other. But after the success of Captain America and the inability to replicate that success the military tried other venues to create supersoldiers and one of the ways they tried that was by capturing Wolverine and using gene-splicing to try and create supersoldiers that could survive shrapnel and light bullet wounds.
You've just described the Ultimate version
Did I? It's been ages since I last read any Ultimate stuff and even then I didn't pay much attention to the X-Men side so I might very well have forgotten, but I thought they were all the results of experiments, Wolverine included, with no natural mutants at all?
Either way, the important bit is to have most mutants like Cyclops etc pop up after the blip, not hanging around hiding while the world is at stake.
While you described the Ulitmate Version. I think it would be the best route unless Secret Wars reboots the MCU.
Frick off.
Fricking this, frick everything about the Celestials.
Nerd.
Honestly, it's a solid roster. Not necessarily the exact team I would have picked, but it's good. Now let's see if they actually go with this.
whats with Mr Sinisters massive push he has been given lately?
He's the only major X-men villain that has not been exposed to normies through TV or movies. Meanwhile, Magneto has been done to death and Apocalypse's movie flopped.
>and Apocalypse's movie flopped.
Maybe they shouldn't have had a midget play him
>The main villain: Mr. Sinister.
kino incoming bros
>Wolverine, Cyclops,Storm, Colossus
always good picks
>Jean
Pathetic
>Nightcrawler
would have replaced him with Beast
Also no young protege for the group?
I would have personally added either Kitty or Jubilee
There's actually been talk about including Rogue in the movie but there is severe trepidation about cluttering the storyline,
>Also no young protege for the group?
Kamala Khan?
>Kamala Khan?
OH GOD NO. X-Men have enough young proteges in Kitty or Jubilee or all the fricking New Mutants.
>He's done that in every single continuity at some point or another.
I mean sorta. On different scales in different continuities. Whatever they do it will be a bit of an ass pull I guess.
every generation had their own kitty, deal with it, kamala is going to be the new jubilee
Would actually be the same breaker for me. Wouldn't watch the movie.
that's actually a good thing considering your smell
>Ms.Marvel joining another team to shit it up
little b***h is sales poison, so no
>Not even acknowledging the greatest sin, that Nightcrawler isn't even blue, he just has regular human skin
>Kitty
They'll cast a troony after Twitter starts screaming troony erasure if they don't because she was last played by Page
>Jubilee
lol
i support troony erasure
No, see you don't understand.
Wolverine is the main character, so everyone must play off Wolverine.
Nightcrawler is Wolverine's best male friend.
Storm is Wolverine's best female friend and substitute team love interest when Jean dies.
Cyclops is Wolverine's frenemy that he butts heads with.
Jean is Wolverine's main love interest.
Colossus is a good friend of Wolverine and they have good combat synergy with the very marketable fastball special.
All characters must serve Wolverine
Expect Kitty, Rogue, Jubilee, Laura, and possibly Armor.
Expect all of them to have the same role. Daughter.
Expect Emma Frost to show up and be both antagonistic force in Wolverine's life as well as a way to get Scott off of Jean so Wolverine can have him.
When Xavier is on screen, it will be Wolverine he puts the most trust in.
It's Wolverine's franchise. The other X-Men are along for the ride. None of them are going to get solo movies. At best you'll get more Xavier + Magneto because they're the only other ones people kind of care aboit. Or an X-23 movie because she's just teen girl Wolverine.
>Scott off of Jean so Wolverine can have him
Based Scott x Logan shipper.
>It's Wolverine's franchise. The other X-Men are along for the ride
Based.
>Would have replaced Best X-Man
You may be a based Emmagay, but your opinions on Kurt are decidedly unbased.
>In the old movies everyone took a backseat to Wolverine.
>The last big ensemble movie that Marvel did was Eternals which was awful in how it handled multiple characters.
>Sinister as the villain when he was teased multiple times in Fox universe (Deadpool 2, X-Men: Apocalypse, Logan, The New Mutants) makes sense.
>Rumours they want to kinda soft retire the Avengers in favour of X-Men and FF for future phases.
>Which defeats the point of why people wanted X-Men around because they also wanted them to interact with Avengers characters a bunch.
>X-Men '97 was meant to come out this year but got moved back to next year and animated theme was used in movies, for instance when Xavier appeared in Dr Strange: Multiverse of Madness.
>Clearly banking on that and using nostalgia.
>Insomniac making Wolverine and multiple X-Men games.
>Wolverine game has Sinister as a villain for partial movie synergy.
>Comics are moving to post Krakoa era so probably going to be banking on simple teams and nostalgia going forward.
Not sure what to make of it all.
it sure seems very funny when you take the period of 2014-2018 into consideration
>Kamala was originally going to be a mutant.
>Then came the Inhuman push.
>Inhuman push didn't work, show flopped.
>Kill off Kamala in comics and make her a mutant.
>Have her be a mutant in the MCU too.
>Bottom
>"Yay, im so happy im a grotesque looking monster!"
Those smiles are so uncanny man, even the fricking dog...
>it sure seems very funny when you take the period of 2014-2018 into consideration
There's still hope for us Iron Fist bros...
Not to be doomer-pilling, but the anti-White character backlash only ramped up since 2014, and considering Feige's reasoning for not including Strange in Wanda/Vision...
>and considering Feige's reasoning for not including Strange in Wanda/Vision...
?
Earlier scripts for the WandaVision finale had Doctor Strange make a guest appearance and resolve things. Feige has given two entirely different explanations for why this didn't happen. The first time he said it was because Cumberbatch was busy elsewhere at the time or unable to travel due to Covid restrictions, the second time he gave an answer about how they couldn't have the show end with a white man showing up to fix everything, and him saying that was 100% ragebait to culture warriors everywhere, even though on some level they have to know some random guest star making a last-minute appearance like a deus ex machina to fix everything would be a garbage ending to anything. They have to know that, but the way Feige worded it, they just can't let go and get over it.
Invert the races involved. Are you still annoyed that people hate dudes who say racist shit?
Frick Feige.
You can be annoyed at a self-loathing white guilt cuck while still acknowledging that Doctor Strange absolutely should not have showed up at the end of WandaVision to resolve everything because that would have been an awful deus ex machina ending, and nobody in their right mind should actually want shows to end like that. Even if you don't like the finale the show actually had, it's still better than a random guest star deus ex machina ending, but people are acting like they got cheated out of one because of anti-white racism.
Anon, the whole show was based around "bad" gimmicks like stunt casting foxmen universe Quicksilver and was sold as a setup for Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness but featured exactly 0 of the titular character.
So his excuses are both offensive and stupid. Any way you slice it.
WandaVision was fricked because it was pushed to be the first Disney+ show when Falcon and the Winter Soldier was originally meant to be first. FATWS had its plot changed because originally the bad guys released a virus to decimate the population down to blip levels but that was changed because of COVID. Then the WandaVision rush meant that show was made generic as frick. Doctor Strange was actually meant to cameo in WandaVision as a set up for next thing, he was literally meant to swoop in and be like, "OH, I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT SHIT THAT JUST HAPPENED, I NEED YOUR HELP!" And this literally did happen only in his movie. The reason why that cameo wasn't included was because of the conflicted priorities. Feige told people that you wouldn't have to see the shows to watch the movies (which turned into a lie. see The Marvels). And then Spider-Man: No Way Home was meant to come out before Dr Strange and had a America Chavez role where she cast the spell on Spider-Man, she was the one that made the Sanctum snowey amongst other things. This would have better explained the multiverse shenanigans. But then the COVID issues meant the films were swapped around. Dr Strange was rushed forward and the creators had no idea what was happening in WandaVision, which was moved forward, so ended up repeating that plot a bunch. Just to be clear, not saying it was all COVID but clearly the right arm didn't know what the left was doing and Disney+ pressures, rushing stuff out, too much content and lack of a coherent plan all fricked stuff up too.
>And then Spider-Man: No Way Home was meant to come out before Dr Strange
*after
jesus bullet dodged there she was an awful fricking character
>and considering Feige's reasoning for not including Strange in Wanda/Vision...
which is?
this will always be the strangest period in 616 due to company shennanigans
>Muties are getting genocided because of Inhuman fart cloud
>But they are supposed to accept it because me natural progress
>somehow Cyclops is literally Hitler for saying this is bullshit
>Inhumans can easily stop it but they wont, and we are supposed to see them as the good guys
I really hope internal memos of the Marvel bullpen of those years get leaked someday so we get to see how writers reacted to all of this bullshit
>But they are supposed to accept it because me natural progress
Aren't they? It's their whole excuse for being shitstains.
>Inhumans can easily stop it but they wont, and we are supposed to see them as the good guys
Actually they could never have stopped it easily. One Emma was doing mine frickily on multiple people including Medusa and black boots. To not mist was needed to make new Inhumans and X-men have broken the law multiple times whenever someone makes a mutant vaccine or an option to turn someone from mutant into not a mutant. Fake Cyclops that was engineered specifically to make him the Martyr in the eyes of mutants. Not to mention the X-Men's plan to deal with the Miss was step one attacker solventation Step 2 actually solve the problem we could have done months earlier by turning the Mist into solid and the issue would have been doubt what if we did that ourselves but step three we're going to destroy the Mist for no reason after solving the problem.
homie it was so contrived, esp. when medusa said "oh it kills yhou? then we remove it"
the funniest part? being inhuman is not about the power. Karnak is an inhuman and he never went through mists. You can be an inhuman without having your powers unlocked. Terrigen was a ritual, but wasn't forced and wasn't mandatory. Holy Frick, I'm waiting for the book about this period
Except it was a part of it saying you can't do this specific ritual which is called to your group's identity does in fact take away from it Karnakk Is the Supreme martial artist but that doesn't mean everyone else is going to be that without the Mist. And if mutant X=Gene suddenly made to be an active to a number of mutants before it ever got activated they won't be considered part of the mutant Community for that.
How exactly were they mentally handicap?
>Except it was a part of it saying you can't do this specific ritual which is called to your group's identity does in fact take away from it Karnakk Is the Supreme martial artist but that doesn't mean everyone else is going to be that without the Mist. And if mutant X=Gene suddenly made to be an active to a number of mutants before it ever got activated they won't be considered part of the mutant Community for that.
I fricking hate ESL. It's like you threw some words through some translating algorithm and copypasted the response. I can't argue with you, because I don't understand what the frick are you writing about
es it was definitely contribute but that doesn't mean the Inhumans were evil for the story for existing and the mutants did nothing wrong. Also be in mind control into your decisions and behavior does have an effect on them.
inhumans weren't evil, but they were moronic. I liked inhumans, but I'm ashamed to admit it nowadays. thankfully, I am anonymous
Funny thing is that destroying the Inhuman Fart Cloud would mean obliterating the gas that makes Inhumans what they are, aka obliterating who they are for the sake of another species' survival. Which if you think about it is the precise opposite of everything the X-men had been doing ever since Decimation, like allowing the Phoenix to potentially obliterate planet Earth to reactivate the mutant gene in millions who never asked for it cause "muh mutants". And yeah, I know what you're thinking, "but the Inhumans don't need that gas to survive", and you're right. They don't. But that's still basically telling them that their need to preserve their race are superseded by another's.
Funny how that goes, isn't it? Mutants demanding Inhumans essentially give up their powers and their racial identity with it for the sake of preserving another species that's given them nothing but trouble...which is something that if you suggested it to THEM, that they should accept a mutant cure and thus give up their powers permanently to keep humanity safe, they'd outright call you a racist bigot who is practically Hitler reincarnated.
Then again, the inhuman fart cloud was beyond moronic to begin with, the hypocrisy just makes me roll my eyes even harder.
The worst part was the X-Men plan was make it solid solving the problem by making the mist solid and then destroy it Something with in a uncanny Inhuman basically shows us they would have accepted and then destroying the solid mist after they solve the problem for no legitimate reason
and you are a moron, but I already explained it posts above
Say whatever you feel to make yourself better, dude. I'm not saying the X-men should have accepted their inevitable extinction via kree cloud farts, I'm just tired of the obvious hypocrisy presented by the X-men and their fans who treat them as though they can do no wrong when they're doing everything they can to snuff out other species to put themselves ahead.
inhumans
>you are inhuman powerless or not
mutant
>you need to activate x-gene
and if you don't believe me re-read the ending of inhumans vs x-men. the inhumans who couldn't go through mists, were confirmed inhumans in plot, they just couldn't get powers
Cultural
How are you still Inhuman if you don't have the thing that makes you in human which is the mutation or powers from the mist?You could argue it's an ethnicity or a culture but that's like saying you have to get rid of Judaism the religion and don't complain cuz you can still be israeli.
>You could argue it's an ethnicity or a culture but that's like saying you have to get rid of Judaism the religion and don't complain cuz you can still be israeli.
Uhh you realize many israelites are atheists and still israelites right? It's a bloodline, not a club.
You could argue the same for the X-men who lost their powers, you know
Cyclops once said to a kid's parents get mutant kind was his real family because he was a mutant and they were not.So it's more Supremacy or eugenics or cult mentality than a culture. Like being human Inhuman.
Saying they count Franklin as family is different than saying he's their real family, Anon. You're reaching.
Also, Cyclops accepted those with de-activated x-genes (e.g. Prodigy) and non-mutants who wanted to help (e.g. Juggy, Hepzibah, Kavita Rao) throughout the entire Decimation/Messiah/Rightclops era.
You know, I abandonned all hope for X-men more than a decade ago, but it still hurt a litlle seing how far they fallen.
cyclops, wolverine and jean grey are mistakes. there are many other mutants that could be on the main roster
Beast
Bishop
Shard
Forge
Rogue
Gambit
Psylocke
Jubilee
Polaris
Dr Cecilia Reyes
Archangel
even Deathlok would be more interesting than cyclops, jean or wolverine
don't forget
>beast tries to use words and shit to stop a race war
>tells x-men what's up because he's loyal to them
>says mutants should start their own planet
>gets assaulted by storm and x-men lock him up for trying to stop a race war
>the cure beast was working on developing never happens, but it's asspulled for REE REE
>later storm starts her own planet of mutants
>Which defeats the point of why people wanted X-Men around because they also wanted them to interact with Avengers characters a bunch.
speak for yourself. I hate the avengers and I don't want them to taint the x-men with their touch
It's not like the X-men are untainted, bro. They've had more than their fair share of stinkers over the years.
yes I agree, but really, keep the avengers away
> >Which defeats the point of why people wanted X-Men around because they also wanted them to interact with Avengers characters a bunch.
The Avengers are getting rebooted if rumours are to believed.
>Nightcrawler
>Cyclops
>Colossus
>Storm
Cool. Think they'll actually get to do anything this time around? I mean, third time's the charm.
At least Nightcrawler got, to this day, the best character introduction in capeshit.
X-2 was way better than it had any right to be.
Missing Kitty and Hank for the Dark Phoenix roster. Great lineup outside of that, especially with the O5 being canon too
This is obviously a fake.
It's way too good and sensible an idea for the current MCU.
or maybe they're testing the reactions
>X-Men broken up by the blip.
>Professor X just straight up erased minds.
Hmm. Not sure if I like the whole straight up erased minds.
He's done that in every single continuity at some point or another. Although it does sort of make No Way Home retroactively avoidable when Peter Parker could have gone to Xavier instead of Dr. Strange to erase the world's memory of him.
>Although it does sort of make No Way Home retroactively avoidable when Peter Parker could have gone to Xavier instead of Dr. Strange to erase the world's memory of him.
Why would that even be an option when Xavier probably erased the knowledge of his telepathy from the public? Not to mention it's probably not an act he'd want to do repeatedly, even for a well-meaning stranger.
Wouldn't the other races like the gods or aliens acknowledge the existence of mutants though or was Xavier just that powerful? I mean Namor classifies himself as a mutant.
I'd imagine gods/aliens would be aware of them but wouldn't consider them a true threat due to being underground and too divided.
Hugh wasn't a great Wolverine, but he had pretty good on-screen charisma. Like his personality wasn't all that Wolverine-like, he was way too tall and handsome, but it's still gonna be weird seeing someone other than him be Logan.
yes he fricking was the best Wolverine homosexual
The weirdest shit is that Deadpool 3 will be the first big MCU X-Men adjacent project and that literally had Deadpool fighting Fox X-Men characters in the void Mad Max style.
Hope that's real because they nailed Scott's costume.
Just go full fricking camp Sinister and let me see Sinister London onscreen
Mr. Sinister feels redundant when they already did High Evolutionary
I think they can make it work, THE is on a larger more broad scale whereas Sinister is more focused in his autism
>Prof. X erased the minds of everyone that knew about mutants
That seems like it should be a pretty widespread action.
Colossus could be taller but I appreciate putting Wolverine in a suit. This picture looks badly shopped together though. Looks like a meet-and-greet preview picture at Universal or Disneyland.
>Professor X mindraped everyone into forgetting mutants existed
Tell me again why the world would be more scared about the guy throwing metal beams around than the guy who won't stop mindraping people? Shield would instantly recruit Magneto and give him a country of his own just for his help in building anti-psychic helmets and miniaturizing the tech so Presidents and military leaders can be given an implant instead of having to wear a helmet to stop psychic spies and terrorists.
Storm better be dark skinned
it's fricking gonna be Zendaya isn't it
Storm is canonically light skinned. I mean there is numerous stuff in the claremont run where he has weird dialogue saying how she basically looks like an ethereal white girl only with light black skin.
I don't read comics, nerd
I know, you're too busy sucking dicks
Isn't there a panel that goes into detail about how she's somehow got "features from all the races" or some bullshit like that, making her stand out no matter where she is because she looks "mixed" in an entirely unnatural way that can't happen in reality? I'm sure I remember something like that.
That's the one! Imagine being sick and the doctors being more confused about how your face doesn't look Black enough for classification.
Why does she have cat eyes?
That's what the doctors referred to as "oriental".
so shes filipino
when have you ever seen a white haired, blue eyed flip?
they're cultural mutts, not racial mutts
If this came out nowadays the writers house would be firebombed
Current comics have kind of went back on this and depict her way more "Black" now than they did in the early days of Claremont and Byrne.
Even recent comics have been all over the place. I have seen online complaints about Krakoa era getting mad that in some comics shes more light skinned than others.
To be fair, I get the impression Romita kinda made her look like Grace Jones back in the day. Dunno how much of the whole mixed look thing was retconned.
Also, they should give the catlike pupils thing a try, even if subtle.
So Halle Berry wasn’t a miscast.
>she basically looks like an ethereal white girl only with light black skin.
Halle berry was the perfect cast
I thought it was she was supposed to be some amalgamation of the best traits of all the worlds hotties.
tfw claremont paid black prostitutes to dress as Storm and dominate him
Lucky sob.
>having to pay prostitutes to dress up
>not just having cosplayers proposition you at every con and meet and greet
[Laughs In Gaiman]
I thought they were just planning on using Secret Wars and universes colliding to make a single universe going forward to fix all the issues
Assuming anon's image isn't fake (it probably is though), then mutants suddenly always existing but Professor x just conveniently made everyone forget about them could technically be part of that retcon
>probably
Definitely. Come on now.
>mutants suddenly always existing but Professor x just conveniently made everyone forget about them
This is an awful way of introducing them. Either they're all dicks because they sat out every previous major crisis in the MCU for no reason, or "they were there in every battle but your memory of them was erased", in which case they were ineffectual and irrelevant because the heroes we saw took care of business.
>they were there in every battle but your memory of them was erased", in which case they were ineffectual and irrelevant because the heroes we saw took care of business.
It would totally come off as stolen valor on their part, especially after we've already seen what the Avengers risked and sacrificed. Nobody would have any reason to believe them anyways if they can manipulate minds like that, since they could just as likely bullshit that they even contributed to anything.
The only major event really is the Blip though. The Battle of New York was like a day, Ultron was like a week, they’re already hiding so who cares about Civil War, it wouldn’t be impossible.
I just hope MCU Scott is a paramilitary hardass and not the designated boring guy to make Wolverine look cool.
I wish Iceman was there too but that’s fine
I just hope they focus on a small team of characters rather than bombard us with mutants like Fox did
Was kind of hoping they’d skip Jean and have Rogue, Jubilee, and Gambit on the base roster
mcu leaks
>Next Avengers movie was originally planned to be all about Kang, now it's being heavily shifted to make the Dark Avengers. The Dark Avengers will have some new and old faces, but will be more morally grey and at the end of the film, they will take over the world as the new bad guys.
>The leader of the Dark Avengers is Maestro, who is Professor Hulk who turns evil due to the events of the film. The twist he is Maestro comes at the end. His second hand is Dr.Strange, due to the Darkhold making him more evil.
>Kang is the main villain, but there is nothing with the multiverse until the end when the Dark Avengers take over and they start abusing multiverse technology due to Strange finding a way. He's going to be a twist hero, trying to prevent the Dark Avengers from taking over due to the timeline changes
>The next avengers movie after this will be Avengers vs Xmen. The Xmen of the Fox Xmen timeline find out about the Dark Avengers and they prepare to go to war. Fox Xmen timeline dies so MCU Xmen can live, and the Dark Avengers are mostly defeated. Maestro only gets banished, with him being teased to return with an army.
>The new MCU Xmen releases the idea of Mutants unto the world after Mr.Sinister abuses everybody forgetting they exists to his advantage to steal powers.
And you were doing so well.
My fake rumor would be that Iron Lad in the Young Avengers is going to be Teen Tony thanks to time travel shenanigans.
Kang should’ve been an evil Tony anyway. A composite between Comic Kang and Superior Iron Man.
Dude could’ve showed up claiming he was MCU Tony back from the dead, only for it to turn out he’s an evil Tony from another universe. He’d initially wear the Superior armor and then start doing shady shit until he gets found out. Afterwards, he goes full Kang.
Yeah almost like HOW HE'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK!
Teen Tony could’ve been an easy way to recast the character and have more Iron Man for the MCU.
Honestly, Fox already did Days of Future Past, but I would still like the first X-Men movie to have the Sentinels as the bigger focus.
I want a DoFP where they don't go full moron and have the sentinels get their power-stealing-powers from Mystique instead of Rogue, just because the Hunger Games girl got really popular and Mystique had to become the main character of the universe.
Are we going to get any cute Kamala and Cyclops moments in the MCU?
is his power still having eyes that are in reality portals to the punch dimension?
I'm not sure that was kind in at the point when he joined the champions as teen cyclops.
he looks rather skinny here
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT - CAN WE MAKE IT REAL? CAN WE WHINE AND PUSH IT HARD ENOUGH THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT REAL?
>Only one non-white member
So who is getting their race changed?
Xavier
no one
Also they need a strong guy to toss Wolverine at someone.
I just hope they cast an actual short actor for Wolverine this time. Short and pugly, like he's supposed to be!
i hope they cast Hugh Jackman
They need Rogue to put Carol in a coma
>Professor X erased the minds of anyone that knew about mutants because they feared prosecution.
I think you meant "persecution". Fix the spelling and try this bait again later.
>MCU is dying after peaking with the Thanos storyline and two of the major headliner Avengers dying/retiring
>people increasingly making it known that they're over the franchise
>the shows and movies aren't attracting the critical or financial acclaim that they used to
>'Nonono! We have new content like- er, uh, these guys that have also been going on for two decades in movies that you didn't care as much about!'
Who seriously believes that the MCU still has steam?
This roster sorely needs Beast and a kid character like Kitty Pryde or Jubliee to be worth a damn. I'd take Emma Frost too but that's more the kinda thing that they'd build up to.
taron egerton wolverine? bullshit
they wouldn't do this to me
they'll force laura wolverine in my throat, I KNOW IT
LIAR
>retconning
>retconning with brainwashing
That sucks. Just reboot the universe and start with a x-men and fantastic four oriented timeline
>Disney should abandon their billion dollar Marvel movie franchises and reboot with Fox's properties that usually made less than half that
You should be in Hollywood with a brain like that.
The ipod made billions, does that mean that apple should have keep selling them?
The mcu is done.
To follow your analogy, you're asking them to give up on ipods and focus on Zunes instead. Or Walkmans.
No, to follow my analogy, you give up your ipod and use your phone
no trying to be mean but are you autistic?
There's no way you can make your analogy work in terms of "Avengers is the past, X-Men is the future". X-Men already had it's chance, and performed worse than Avengers.
I'm not saying xmen is the future. But the mcu is finished, nobody cares about it without the two major leads being essentially death.
And they can't reboot it with just recasting captain america and iron man because RBJ is still too fresh on everyone memories.
Spider-Man and X-Men used to be the Marvel A-list and the Avengers and associated characters were Marvel's B list and below. The reason why Marvel only had Avengers characters was because they almost went bankrupt in the 90s due to poor business decisions (like buying a bunch of distributors/trading card companies) and sold their A-list characters. Then they decided to make Marvel Studios and took a gamble on Iron Man which paid off. With actual correct management, making the X-Men huge again shouldn't be too difficult. (They will frick it up though.)
>Spider-Man
>used to
He never stopped. Also, the X-Men peaked in the 90s, the discussion is regarding the more recent franchise that, at one point, was busting out billion dollar or near one billion dollar movies with semi regularity, versus one that never reached the same heights, even when they were both running concurrently. People are treating the X-Men like they're this unknown factor, when we've already seen how their movies tended to perform, and unlike Spider-Man, they didn't gain nearly as much traction.
>>used to
Mistype that's all.
>People are treating the X-Men like they're this unknown factor, when we've already seen how their movies tended to perform, and unlike Spider-Man, they didn't gain nearly as much traction.
Yeah but like I said, Iron Man wasn't an A-lister and was built up into something new and big. A property like X-Men can still bank on nostalgia and other feelings for a rebound. Heck we even have the 90s animated series revival to come and Insomniac producting X-Men games. There is a push coming. Just because of how the past have done is no indication to how the future ones will do.
The real problem is the state of current Disney/MCU.
>A-lister
See, that's the problem when people contextualize the argument like that, because there's a disconnect between the listings used in comic circles versus everybody else that doesn't care about that. Wolverine was pretty much neck and neck with Spider-Man in popularity a few decades ago, how well did that translate when his movies were only okay performers and were being outgrossed by characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, the Guardians of the Galaxy, Black Panther, and other characters that didn't receive anywhere as much of a push as Wolverine?
That listing used to go beyond comics and into merchandise, games, animation etc. Of course there is also other factors like the quality of the damn movie at the end of the day. Not being able to capitalise on things is just a representation of their poor decisions. Not relying on their top earners probably helped the early MCU overall.
>That listing used to go beyond comics and into merchandise, games, animation etc
The "listing" was still largely in fans' minds though. Joe Normie would still just have the small number of Marvel characters he knew about, a few more he'd heard of but didn't know much about, and that's all.
And at a certain point who's known outside of comics just becomes self-fulfilling, character A gets a cartoon and character B doesn't, so character A gets toys, games and merch that character B doesn't. Then one day they both have movies and finally it's an even playing field, and Joe Normie might upset comics fan expectations by liking character B more than A.
>Not relying on their top earners probably helped the early MCU overall.
Reminder that in comic terms the Avengers were the top earners by the time the MCU started, which is also a reminder that popularity levels aren't fixed.
>Reminder that in comic terms the Avengers were the top earners by the time the MCU started
Got a source for that?
>And at a certain point who's known outside of comics just becomes self-fulfilling
Yeah this is true. But there is a still bit of retaining between adaptations that keeps character perceptions alive in peoples minds.
>which is also a reminder that popularity levels aren't fixed.
No one is saying they are fixed, because obviously FF were huge for Marvel then eclipsed by Spider-Man back in the day.
You can read the sales figures yourself and see how New Avengers was normally Marvel's top book from 2005 onwards outside of event minis and occasional #1s. The Red Hulk book was doing really well for Marvel at the time, too.
It was a point in history where the core X-Men books and Wolverine were still doing well, but had been dethroned as Marvel's top dog, and the rest of the X-book like was in varying levels of decline.
https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales.html
>You can read the sales figures yourself and see how New Avengers was normally Marvel's top book from 2005 onwards
Overally Avengers wasn't Marvels top earners though, not overall. Bendis New Avengers did quite well but it still wasn't top earner.
Sorry I had a brain fart, no sleep and a cold so that wasn't worded properly.
Tbf I am not sure that new avengers counts as it did have Spiderman and even wolverine in it too. So saying it is proof of avengers popularity when it literally used the most popular characters is a null and void point.
>Tbf I am not sure that new avengers counts as it did have Spiderman and even wolverine in it too. So saying it is proof of avengers popularity when it literally used the most popular characters is a null and void point.
Yeah it is a weird brag to claim Avengers was big when New Avengers was just the main Marvel line book full of everyone.
>A property like X-Men can still bank on nostalgia and other feelings for a rebound. Heck we even have the 90s animated series revival to come and Insomniac producting X-Men games.
The fact that Disney are treating X-Men as a 90s nostalgia brand should be a massive wake-up call to you all about their expectations for it.
>Just because of how the past have done is no indication to how the future ones will do.
Movie reboots happen often enough that you should be able to build up an idea of how they tend to perform when measured against the originals. Hoping for an X-Men reboot to do Spider-Man, Iron Man or Avengers numbers is a triumph of blind optimism over realism and sense.
I mean ultimately the gimmick of the MCU has faded and it won't ever retain that. All I was saying is that Iron Man was built up and that properties with a bigger capability, even if diminished, could be built up in the same manner and potentially do well. But in the current climate that won't happen because you know they'll frick it up.
Iron Man was a new property to movie audiences, there was no past history of Iron Man movies for the 2008 movie to compete with or live up to. X-Men has a 20 year movie history, it's not going to be coming in as a new brand, it's going to be coming in as something where most people will already know if they want to see a new X-Men movie or not. X-Men's "bigger capability" in comic sales is basically irrelevant, with mainstream normie audiences Iron Man surpassed them, and a reboot isn't going to change that.
Regardless of what company owned the movie rights to X-Men, we've already had seven X-Men movies and three Wolverine movies. A lot of them pre-date the MCU, pre-date any notion of "superhero fatigue", and didn't have a lot of competition at the time in terms of other comics movies. They didn't come close to the money Spider-Man was making back then, so why would anyone possibly think an X-Men reboot is going to be doing Spider-Man or Avengers numbers now? It's just self-delusion and cope based on a conviction that X-Men is just inherently meant to be more popular than Avengers because that's how things usually worked in comics, so normies have to like the same thing nerds like and the movies just have to do better somehow. That train has already sailed and it's just not going to happen now.
>That train has already sailed and it's just not going to happen now.
Well yeah no shit. No one is saying that the MCU isn't dead.
Inflation and woke are damaging the MCU.
>damaging
You mean killed it.
Ororo in black pants again
Militar baggy costumes...
AGAIN
Dead on arrival
As the creator of Gundam says, the MCU is boring
Good roster outside the presence of Jean, please skip this b***h altogether from these movies
>jean grey
>https://comicbook.com/movies/news/shazam-fury-of-the-gods-star-grace-caroline-currey-auditioned-x-men-jean-grey/
It's her time.
This is actually pretty good. I'm impressed.
Using the Singerverse Cerebro?
why do these movies hate Jubilee so much?
They don't take her seriously as a character. She's like the personification of 90s camp.
Is it because she’s Asian?
>More Phoenix shit
God, I hate Jean. They should have just said Dark Phoenix has already happened and Jean is dead and gone and replaced her with the superior model telepath.
Do you she'd be hot in the MCU?
Emma is shit.
>lightskin storm
Racist crackers at it again
>Remove Jean
>Add Emma and a smart guy, like Beast
Team fixed.
>prosecution
For what?
Prostitution.
3/10 fake news.
The main villain is going to be Magneto again BUT the Hellfire Club is going to be very prominent through out the trilogy.
So 70s merged with singers and jim lee.
Not bad, honestly
I want Rogue to be there but they're probably not ready to frick Carol up yet
they should be
The 05 also existed.
>the morons who say nobody cares about Nightcrawler and Colossus are the same morons who say people care about Rogue and Gambit
90'sgays. Not even once.
we need a 2 hour long wolverine and jean grey sex scene.
OK, but only if Wolverine's just sitting in the corner watching Jean go.